Linux-Hardware Digest #117
Linux-Hardware Digest #117, Volume #14Tue, 2 Jan 01 04:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: CD Burner (Bill Unruh)
Re: lexmark support --? ("Leon Bourassa")
Re: Quake 3 -- Keyboard Key Combination Issues? (Alex Diaz)
Re: Xircom RealPort CardBus 10/100 +56k modem won't work (Vince Busam)
asus a7v promise controller prob booting ("herbert deblieck")
Re: Linux with Abit KT7 & AMD Duron (Henry_Barta)
Re: access to hpfs partitions (mike)
is Toshiba Satellite 2800 supported by RHLinux? (Sam Wun)
multiple soundblaster cards? (bob)
Re: Modem is "busy" - PCI IRQ Sharing problem (Nader)
Re: problem reading windows-created CD-RW ("Dan White")
Re: Netgear FA310TX: making manual settings work ("Dan White")
Re: Hard disk problems with Red Hat 7.0 install ("Dan White")
Re: Adaptec ARO-1130U2 ("TN")
Re: Sounblaster Live on kernel 2.2.18 ? ("Charlie")
Re: multiple soundblaster cards? (Cannon Fodder)
Re: Linux with Abit KT7 & AMD Duron ("Charlie")
Re: hdc: drive not ready (Cannon Fodder)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: CD Burner
Date: 2 Jan 2001 02:10:09 GMT
In <92rc5t$t7t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
]I did some experiments with RedHat (6.0 and 6.1), SUSE (6.1), Debian
](2.1) and Storm (2000) and in *no* case was it necessary to recompile
]the kernel to get ide-scsi working. These were fresh installs, done
]just for the test, so I can be sure that all claims to the contrary are
]specious, and merely represent the recollections of ancient hackers
]remembering the distant past.
Thanks for doing the experiment. I had extreme difficulty believing that
what you say was not true, but belief and experiment are different
things.
] I have posted detailed instructions for installing a cd-writer on a
]commercial Linux distribution at http://www.nber.org/cdrecord.html and
]I refer newbies to that document. It is in fact very easy. The RH disks
]contain all the software you need.
--
From: "Leon Bourassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lexmark support --?
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 02:50:34 GMT
Im not sure, but i would like to find out as well, I own a lexmark Z11 (word
of advice, don't buy this model, the replacement cartridges are half the
price of the printer)
Leon Bourassa
Network Administrator
Michael Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:92qhsq$7svdg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hello there,
> i recently purchased the lexmark z42 very cheap. but unfortunately i
forgot
> to look for the linux support. there is none, as i found out not very
later
> :)
> now my question: i have heard that there were inofficial drivers around on
> the net. although i searched for them i couldn't retrieve anything like
> that. so does anybody out there know anything about it?
> thank you very much.
> bye, michael
>
>
--
From: Alex Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Quake 3 -- Keyboard Key Combination Issues?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 21:46:09 -0500
It should be noted that the problem occurs in UT as well.
Thanks.
Alex
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vince Busam)
Subject: Re: Xircom RealPort CardBus 10/100 +56k modem won't work
Date: 2 Jan 2001 03:17:57 GMT
The Ethernet worked fine out of the box. Just inserted the card and it
started up.
Vince
>I have the opposite problem, the modem works fine but
>the Ethernet does not.
>
>How did you get the Ethernet working?
>
>
>Vince Busam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> My Xircom card works fine for ethernet, but I can't get the modem working.
>> On insert, /dev/modem is linked to /dev/ttyS2, and the modem will respond
>to
>> the "AT" command with "OK", but will not respond to any other commands.
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Socket 0: Xircom CBEM56G-100 CardBus 10/100 Ethernet + 56K Modem
>> 0 network tulip_cb0 eth0
>> 0 serial serial_cb 0 ttyS2 4 66
>> Socket 1: empty
>>
>> In Minicom:
>> AT
>> OK
>> ATA
>>
>> dmesg:
>> Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.1.19
>> kernel build: 2.2.16-22 #1 Tue Aug 22 16:49:06 EDT 2000
>> options: [pci] [cardbus] [apm]
>> PCI routing table version 1.0 at 0xf0180
>> 00:02.0 -> irq 11
>> 00:02.1 -> irq 11
>> Intel PCIC probe:
>> Toshiba ToPIC97 rev 05 PCI-to-CardBus at slot 00:02, mem 0x6800
>> host opts [0]: [slot 0xf0] [ccr 0x10] [cdr 0x86] [r
Linux-Hardware Digest #117
Linux-Hardware Digest #117, Volume #13 Mon, 26 Jun 00 12:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: PPP and Winmodem (JoeB)
cdrom not a valid block device??? ("Tim Bartek")
Minolta PagePro 6L printer ("Casper Helenius")
Re: Thoughts on this configuration? (David C.)
can't play audio CD's but works otherwise (Narbey Derbekyan)
Re: Thoughts on this configuration? (David C.)
10Gb HD - can't mount vfat filesystem ("Graham Staker")
LASAT WebSetGo 56000 and Linux (Jonas Folkesson)
Cable TV Montgomery Expressnet problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: APC Powerchute not working ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Laptop modem not found!! (Avijit Purkayastha)
Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution ("Douglas W. Martin")
stuck on TLB IPI wait (CPU#0) (Floris Martens)
Re: LASAT WebSetGo 56000 and Linux (Dances With Crows)
Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution ("Richard Clafton")
Re: Q: HD > 1024cyl (Dima Maziuk)
Re: ssh/rsh ("Chuck Swiger")
From: JoeB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,al.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.misc
Subject: Re: PPP and Winmodem
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:09:49 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
Many thanks for the tip. I do have a winmodem as I mentioned.
The site you recommended did say that if you have a WINMODEM it will not work.
So I guess I am back to where I started. Can anyone help?
Bill Unruh wrote:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JoeB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> ]Hello,
>
> ]I have got a winmodem on my laptop. I have downloaded the driver
> ]"ltmodem"
> ]and I can get it to dial out with the tool that comes with it. However,
> ]I do not know
> ]how to configure PPP or get it to connect to the internet. Since this is
> ]a WINMODEM,
> ]how do I create a /dev/modem device for this and how do I configure PPP.
>
> Don't bother. /dev/modem is just a pain and helps nothing. Use
> /dev/ttyS14 I believe it is
>
> For help in setting up ppp, see
>http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
--
From: "Tim Bartek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cdrom not a valid block device???
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:27:18 GMT
My cdrom worked perfectly with lm6 but after installing lm7 when I try to
mount the cdrom I get the error message cdrom is not a valid block device.
Can anyone help me? I tried supermount on the install but it didn't work so
I reinstalled without it.
Please keep in mind that I am a newbie!
--
From: "Casper Helenius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Minolta PagePro 6L printer
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:14:52 GMT
Hi y'all,
Anyone gotten a Minolta PagePro 6L working correctly under RedHat 6.2 or
similar?
Using kernel ver. 2.2.14 (as shipped with RH62).
Please let me know.. :-)
Best regards,
Casper Helenius,
Denmark
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Thoughts on this configuration?
Date: 26 Jun 2000 09:48:37 -0400
Andreas Hödl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I don't know much about dual-cpu-systems, but I can only recommend: -)
> the Adaptec 29160LVD/SCSI controller card (you can use UW-discs with
> it too) - up to 160MB/s transfer rate
Well, up to 133M/s - that's the most the PCI bus can handle. But that's
fine, because no drive can sustain speeds even close to that.
-- David
--
From: Narbey Derbekyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't play audio CD's but works otherwise
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:05:55 GMT
Greetings:
I'm having some dificulties playing audio CDs from my new
cdrom. My system is a redhat 6.2 with kernel 2.2.16. Basically I can
mount and read CDroms but I can't seem to be able to play CDs.
I recently upgraded my 4x scsi2 cdrom with a much faster one,
NEC DC-3010. The system boots up just fine, I can mount the cdrom and
read iso fs, no problems. But when I try to play my CDs with various
CD player software, I only hear a half second of sound and then
nothing. The track slider on XMMS is jumping back an forth in place as
if the cdrom is skipping. I did not have any such issues with the
older cdrom. Ditto for kernel 2.2.14, same problem. All the CD players
can read the number of tracks and correctly lookup the CD in CDDB.
They're both scsi and have the same 50 pin connector. The only
difference I can tell is that the new cdrom is ultra-scsi, but my card
supports it and I can mount and read from CDs.
If anyone has any insights as to what's up with this, please
let me know.
really wierd.
narbey
Linux-Hardware Digest #117
Linux-Hardware Digest #117, Volume #11 Sat, 28 Aug 99 01:13:29 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux users group in Kansas City area - can't find one ("Jonathan Hutchins")
Modem recommendation for RH 6.0 ("microgiant")
Re: how do i access the cd-rom (Larry Ozarow)
Linux on an old Mac SE (or LC II) (Jeremy Fincher)
Re: An Acer Hole! (Larry Ozarow)
Re: Modem US Robotics 56K v.90 INT (Andy Johnstone)
Re: cost of leased line in notting hill, London England (Peter Eddy)
Turtle Beach Montego II A3d (Sung Soo Kang)
Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 Hardware Compatibility Questions ("Jorge Padron")
Number Nine Revolution 3D PCI (Stuart Johnston)
Re: S3 Inc. Trio3D (Andy Johnstone)
Re: Dual Pentium II shows as Dual Celeron... (Tim Moore)
Re: Resurrection of old hard disk (Andy Johnstone)
Re: An Acer Hole! (Larry Ozarow)
Re: Looking for beginner system builder info (Andy Johnstone)
Re: Which printer should I buy? (Grant Taylor)
RFI - Analog Modem Channel Bonding (Ken McCord)
Re: HP 720C printer and Linux (Ray Kohler)
CDROM problems (Guru Prasad)
Re: Sound Blaster Live - How do you Activate a sound card (cjh)
Re: MaxiSound/ESS1868 (Wei-shi Tsai)
Concern: Do SCSI Target mode drivers exist for Linux (Ingmar Graesslin)
Re: Linux on an old Mac SE (or LC II) (hac)
Re: Does the monitor matter? (hac)
Re: Webserver specs needed...thanks ("Arunas Salkauskas")
Re: Webserver specs needed...thanks (hac)
Linux on Toshiba 2595xDVD ?? (Jeff Howard)
Graphics card with TV-Out under linux? (Dermot Bradley)
From: "Jonathan Hutchins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,roadrunner.kc.linux
Subject: Re: Linux users group in Kansas City area - can't find one
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 01:48:12 GMT
> Jeff Greer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:37ab5478.23235937@news-server...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone know of a linux users group in the Kansas City area?
Jeff Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7of486$9ne$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> There is a Linux User Group in Kansas City. It is a special interest
group
> of Heartland Users Group (HUG).
Right.
Just like there's a special interest group for NT?
Expect a handfull of confused people worried about Y2K and complaining about
Bill Gates conspiricy to force them to upgrade their 286's running DOS 2.0
--
From: "microgiant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem recommendation for RH 6.0
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:42:50 -0400
can anybody there recommend some external modems for RH6.0 ?
Thanks
--
From: Larry Ozarow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: how do i access the cd-rom
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 02:41:39 GMT
ZAP wrote:
> i have an ide cd-rom drive. I would like to read from it in openlinux 2.2
>
> can any tell me how to copy from cd-rom to linux hard drive
>
> -- Posted via CNET Linux Help --
>http://www.searchlinux.com
How does this question belong in any of the three groups
you crossposted it to? I guess because it concerns two drives you could
somehow convince
yourself that it has something to do with hardware, or maybe it's on a
powerpc so you could
mistakenly think it belongs in that group. But x?
Don't these groups have some kind of guidelines somewhere?
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Fincher)
Subject: Linux on an old Mac SE (or LC II)
Date: 28 Aug 1999 02:17:08 GMT
Will it work? If it will, how will I get it to work?
Thanks,
Jeremy
==
If i ever forget to capitalize a proper noun, forgive me. i'm a big fan of ee
cummings
My ICQ # is 28153190. My AIM/AOL name is either jemfinch02 or Cassius80.
Have a good day, and good luck in your endeavors!
--
From: Larry Ozarow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.questions,alt.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: An Acer Hole!
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 03:11:09 GMT
Larry Ozarow wrote:
> MACKENZIE wrote:
>
> > If I can't find a driver for my Acer Scanner and Acer CD RW. I'll be Scanless and
>there'll be a
> > big hole where my CD-RW used to be. Can someone tell me how to set these things up
>to work?
> > --
>
> What interfaces do they use? If the scanner is scsi see www.mostang.com/sane. If
>it's not you
> can pretty much fugettaboudid.
>
> As for the CD-RW check the CD-Writing HOWTO, at www.gu
Linux-Hardware Digest #117
Linux-Hardware Digest #117, Volume #10 Thu, 29 Apr 99 00:13:28 EDT
Contents:
How to run Trident 3DImage975 -based videocards (Andrew Comech)
Re: bttv, bttvgrab: kernel panic? (Gerd Knorr)
Re: ++ USB and LInux ?? ++ (Mark Hahn)
unrecognized memory by linux ("Robert B. Andrews")
Re: Linux Sound Help! (Colin)
Creatix ISDN S.0 card (Thomas Jentzsch)
Re: Help: Driver for SMC EtherEZ card? (Larry Ozarow)
Re: Kernel 2.2 + dual CPU ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Still Modem problems. ("Robert B. Andrews")
Re: Exabyte 8200 issues (Paul Thompson)
aic7890 and redhat/suse install / Q3ATEST GriLLon ("Alfred Wallace")
graphics driver for CornerStone image-accel PC 164i card ("Willem J. Atsma")
Re: unrecognized memory by linux (J A)
Linux Sparc Boxes - Great Prices - Even Co-Location! from $85.00 ("Byron MIller")
Well supported RAID 0/1/5 Controllers (pete demoreuille)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: How to run Trident 3DImage975 -based videocards
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Apr 1999 17:23:32 -0500
Hi,
Many people complained they could not run videocards with Trident
3DImage975 (9750) chipset at decent resolutions (usually, the screen
just remained black at something like 1024x768).
I also spent some time on a Jaton videocard with this chipset, and now
I can squeeze any resolution out of it (up to 1200x1024), with decent
color depths:
bpp/resolution 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1152x864 1200x1024
8 * ****
16* ****
24* **--
32* **--
The recipe is kind-of simple, but strange: one needs to use _particular_
orders of resolutions in the "Modes" line. (I did not touch Modelines.)
The details are at
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/3DImage975.html
If you have time and need to try this recipe, I'd appreciate to hear
from you whether this (or some modification) solves your problems with
this chipset.
Hope this will help someone,
Andrew
PS. I guess this would also work for 3DImage985 chipset... I do not know.
PPS. for personal answers, please finger out my login name.
--
Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
--
Crossposted-To: de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerd Knorr)
Subject: Re: bttv, bttvgrab: kernel panic?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:23:57 GMT
On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:24:49 +0200, Martin Franke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> We try to set up a webcam with linux, bttv and bttvgrab. After some
> succesful tests we got a strange problem.
>
> We are using:
> linux kernel 2.2.1
> bttv 0.5.19
You either have to fix bttv-0.5.19 or upgrade to a newer version, there
was a change in struct file_operations somewhere in late 2.1.x kernels.
> Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii;
> name="martin.vcf"
What this is good for?
Gerd
--
From: Mark Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ++ USB and LInux ?? ++
Date: 28 Apr 1999 22:19:06 GMT
> Best of my knowledge there are a few USB projects going on but there is no
> "official" support for USB at this stage.. Sorry. You're only chance is to
heh. well Linus is contributing to the USB effort;
if that doesn't make it "official", I don't know what does!
--
From: "Robert B. Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: unrecognized memory by linux
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:50:49 -0700
I have 2 64M dims, and during the memory test the bios tests/sees
all 128M. After booting linux (2.0.29), I see that only 64M
is recognized. I then have only 128M swap. My swap partition
is over 256M, so I don't see a problem there.
In case it matters, I have a Cyrux 686 pp-233.
Thanks in advance.
RBA
--
From: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Sound Help!
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:33:46 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have been a happy RedHat user for several months now, but sound JUST
> WON'T WORK!
> I have a SB 16 card (IDE) which is functioning fine in Win98, but
> here's what happens when I run sndconfig in Linux (RH5.1):
>
> It goes through the typical start screens,
> plays the test sound of Linus speaking
> (This sound plays just fine - loud and clear)
> then, I get the following message:
>
> --
> An error was encountered unloading the
> sound mo
Linux-Hardware Digest #117
Linux-Hardware Digest #117, Volume #9 Wed, 6 Jan 99 07:13:41 EST
Contents:
Re: UDMA support on ALADIN IV/V chipset? (Ian Tester)
Re: PLEASE HELP !!! PLEASE HELP !!! (DG)
Re: PLEASE HELP !!! PLEASE HELP !!! (DG)
How to check my Intel MP Specification is V1.4 ? ("Frederic SAVOIR")
Re: Converting Serial port ttyS0 to ttyS1 ("Mr. Fastenow")
Vlb bus and L2 cache
ISDN dial out problems (Richard Mann)
Re: samba mount problem (Guenther Wieser)
Install problem - Redhat Linux on Maxtor HD ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Keyboard problems with X (Mario Wehbrink)
http://www.sellcom.com UPDATED ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Red Hat 5.2 not recognizing 2nd SCSI adapter (George Elkins)
Re: Accel videocard (Andre Bossard)
Re: Xserver Banshee (Andre Bossard)
SCSI Timeout? (Maximilien Oursel)
Re: How to check my Intel MP Specification is V1.4 ?
(EveryNameHasAlreadyBeenUsedOnUsenet)
Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B Problem (Alex Parfenov)
From: Ian Tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UDMA support on ALADIN IV/V chipset?
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:56:54 +1100
On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Annejan wrote:
> I have this (bad but cheap) PC Chips MoBo M575 with an TX Pro chipset,
> which is an Ali Alladin IV chipset. I believe the Alladin V chipset has
> the same chip for making the connection to the UDMA drives, and as
> Motherboards with this chipset (Asus P-5) are sold quit well, I was
> wondering if there would already be some support for it.
Look here -
http://www.dyer.vanderbilt.edu/server/udma/
It's got patches for the development kernel, now the 2.2pre kernels.
hope this helps,
bye
8<8<8<8<8<8<8<
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \7\ LINUX: because geeks \7\ Ian Tester
http://www.imroy.ddns.org/ \7\will find a way \7\*8)#
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DG)
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP !!! PLEASE HELP !!!
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 00:38:42 GMT
YOU AIN'T NO F** BODY TO JUDGE LIKE THAT. DON'T EVER LET ME SEE
YOU POST LIKE THAT OR I'LL KICK YOUR MF A** !!!
On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:49:30 -0700, Bill Anderson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>DG wrote:
>>
>> Stuff a pie in your face.
>>
>> On Fri, 01 Jan 1999 22:44:11 -0600, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> DO NOT GIVE ME IRRELEVANT BULLSH**
>> >> SUCH AS TELLING ME TO PARTITION MY OTHER HARD DRIVE. I WILL CONTINUE
>> >> TO POST THIS MESSAGE UNTIL SOMEONE HELPS ME FIX THIS PROBLEM !!!
>> >>
>> >> Please post a reply to this message. I've had to switch ISPs in the
>> >> past due to people spamming and framing my acount(s).
>> >>
>
>Given the nature of your posts, I would venture to say it would likely
>that your acocunt was cancelled for abuse.
>
>> >>
>> >
>> > using umsdos might be your ticket...
>> >
>> >i agree with doug 'n darren... the tone of your posts does tend discourage the help
>> >you're seeking...
>> >
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DG)
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP !!! PLEASE HELP !!!
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 00:39:11 GMT
ANOTHER MENTALLY RETARDED PIGFART !!!
On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 20:20:28 GMT, Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>You asked for help, and we tried to give you help. If you want to think that we are
>"stupid idiots" then that's your problem, but just remember who asked who for help and
>who cannot get it working in the first place.
>please try to remember that we are NOT experts (well mabye some of us..I'm not) we are
>all learning,,if somoene gives you an answer thatis not correct then move on to the
>next answer or rephrase the question!
>Good luck!
>
>***ARROWOFTHEMORNINGSTAR
>
>DG wrote:
>
>> Fine, I'll take it there then. I ask a question and end up with most
>> people giving mentally retarded answers in return but that's o.k. The
>> world's full of stupid idiots.
>>
>> On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 03:25:00 +0900, Mike Thoreson
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi. i do apologize if my message sounds a bit too long but at least
&
