Re: Compiling RealTek 8139 driver whit error

2003-10-12 Thread RedBar0n
Hi all,

OK, I wget the latest kernel (linux-2.6.0-test7) and try to commpile it, but
I bump into some errors so I decided to compile only the modules by this
RTFM http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO/loadable_modules.html#AEN285

and the when insmod the 8139too.o I got this msg: .8139too.o: couldn't
find the kernel version the module was compiled for

As I read more in this document I see that there is a way to outsmart this
problem by define the register_chrdev as the register version of my working
kernel, BUT genksyms appears to work in version Versions 2.1.18 and lower...

So I google some more, and fine an article that describe, more or less, my
kind of issue...
They recommend to add #define __NO_VERSION__ to the file before the
include's, so I did, and nothing

And the last test I did is I copy the include/linux/version.h (the origilal)
and replaced the version.h in my new kernel dir, also, not a big success
story :-)

Help any one...

Gili

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> Hi,
>
> I would first try to get a recent kernel source tree (2.4.22, 2.4.23-pre,
> 2.4.22-ac, etc.), from www.kernel.org, and compile it myself. You can
> copy the config file from redhat, and only make sure you compile _both_
> drivers in the kernel (there are 2 drivers for 8139 in the kernel) as
> _modules_. This way, you can insmod one of them, experiment a bit, then
> rmmod, insmod the other.  If you suspect the modules leaves the kernel
> or hardware in an unstable state, you can even reboot between tests.
> Only later I would go for downloading and compiling an external driver.
> gcc 3.2 might also be the problem, though. I compile most of my kernels
> with 2.95.3. I do have some compiled with 3.2 and 3.3, with no problems
> (yet?). Newer ones (2.4.22+, 2.6.0-test) have higher chances to work
> with 3.x.
>
> Good luck, and tell us about your progress,
> -- 
> Didi
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released

2003-10-12 Thread shlomi

Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> Here are my observations of you remaster:
>
> general:
> 
> * Thin-Keramic is nice, but keramic is better if you want a better unified
> desktop

i wish KDE would switch to thin-keramic, it looks much better :\
anyways, you're right about this...and i think thin-keramic has some issues.

> * qt3.2 has some issues, for example look in kicker for the hide buttons,
> also in kde3.2 there are issues with khtml, i could not test them since i
> had problems with iwiz, downgrade to qt3.1 please.

The hide buttons look like that because of thinKeramic - i set the flat panels 
option. what other issues does qt3.2 have? 

> * iwiz should be in configuration menu
> * iwiz should run as root (sudo or whatever?)
> * iwiz does not run even in root, since it needs to wite in RO dirs:

it's kinda hard for me to test since i don't have to use it to connect.
BTW, what kind of connection do you have?

i have not tested all this iwiz stuff yet, and i don't really have a way to 
test it. but I'll see what i can do. That why i didn't put a shortcut on 
desktop. because it's still experimental. There are links for it in the menu 
i think, generated by my Debian packing , in 'Applications'.

> * localized graphics maybe?

what do you mean ?

> * touch /etc/modules/2.4.22-xfs... and friends (they are older then other
> files)

OK. i know about this.

> * can you map the "win" key to the kemnu? (mdk does that)

do you know how to do it in Knoppix?

> * please add gtkgraph, or better program (kde based a BIG plus!)

OK.

> things that may be removed without any problems:

huh?

> * where is the show dektop button?

Huh ? i see it in it's usual place.

> * mixer volume is is 50%, can it be put to 95%?

yes, i think it's a matter of adding another conf file
OK.

> * qparted does not load

i didn't touch it. does it load in Knoppix3.3 ?

> * xine is not setup up to play avi's by default
> * the same for xmms

what? you mean you don't use Noatun and Kaboodle ? :D
OK. 

> * set the default font in "konsole" to "console" please

OK, Knoppix default really is ugly, isn't it?

> * xmms-bidi? i see only garbage in files, try "LC_CTYPE=he_IL.ISO-8859-8
> biditext xmms" works in mdk9.2

xmms-bidi is experimental package i built with patch from 
http://xmms-bidi.sourceforge.net
it works great on my system, but for unknown reason, still doesn't work on 
Knoppix. I'm working on it.

>
> - remove bochs
> no default image. and why the hell do i need it in knopix?

"why" you ask? hmm , don't know .. it's Knoppix! it has a lot of junk in it , 
but it's kinda fun to play with all this junk, don't you think ?

>
> - remove wine
> hard to configure on real boxes.
> no autodetection of any thing.
> rarely works (from my experience)

i never used it, but don't you think it might become useful?

>
> + bb ownz! (whwre can iget more of this?)
> i have seen demos... but this is definetly my favorite (my other two are
> one for windows with great sound sync and another one from the 4k asm
> contest)

LOL, yes, it's cool, i didn't put it in, it comes with Knoppix3.3

This is the homepage of AA-project : 
http://aa-project.sourceforge.net/

Check out this ASCII-mpeg-player : 
http://spondooliks.org/alex/apron/apron.php3

>
> + OO1 final!

With the crystal icons, like you requested :)

>
> + gideon and not kdevelop!

i didn't check yet if you can compile a simple KDE "hello, world!" 
application. some libs might be missing.

>
> full hebrew style
> -
> * FireBird uses a diffedrent font for menu then system (kde)

i couldn't find where to change FB's font. do you know where?

>
> lindows style
> -
> * please use ksplash-ml and set the splash to "xp"

i can't seem to find a Debian package for ksplash-ml.
(actually i found one but it was broken)
i might have to build it myself. too much work for a silly thing :)
but I'll consider it.

>
> mac style:
> --
> * hack please the karamba theme to show the k menu on the right

do you any idea how to do this ? if you do, please send a full dcop command.

> * use the same background image as full hebrew style

why? i think it looks nice. i wanted something brighter for the Mac-style

>
> Looks great btw, real love as been put into this project. Just need to fix
> some small things and you are done.

:)

> IMHO release kazit 2, before kde3.2 with kde3.1, since there are many
> problems regarding hebrew there. You may want to do kazit 2.1 with kde3.2
> but IMHO kde3.2 will not be really do your remaster until kde3.2.2 or
> kde3.2.3. Stick to kde3.1.X.

Diego, Thanks a lot for your comments.
This really helps :)



Shlomi.


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released

2003-10-12 Thread shlomi
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> BTW: are fat/ntfs partitions mounted with the option 'utf8' ?

oopsi, it seems that i didn't change one important thing in knoppix-autocong, 
the one that genetares the fstab file.  :-|
So vfat and ntfs will not be mounted as utf8 ... but now i fixed it and 
patched knoppix-autoconfig once again :-\

Anyway, it'll be fixed in beta2.

Shlomi


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Re: [OT] Giveaway Books

2003-10-12 Thread Alon Altman

  I suggest visiting http://www.bookcrossing.com and registering these
books. Then you can come to a BookCrossing event (like the one we had in the
August Penguin 2003) and swap books with others, or even just donate your
books.

  Alon

> Hi Gang,
>
> I moved to another apartment, so i have to get rid of some books I no longer
> need / use.
>
> The list has the following format: Book Name / Book Author / Year / Publisher
>
> Theory and Problems of Basic Mathematics for Electricity and Electronics 2ed
> Ed /Arthur Baiser / 1993 / McGraw Hill
>
> HTML 3.2 & CGI Unleashed (Professional Reference Edition) / John December and
> Mark Ginsburg / 1996/ Sams
>
> Basic System Analysis / Richard W. Lott / 1971/ Canfield Press
>
> Bit-Mapped Graphics, 2ed Ed / Steve Rimmer / 1993 / McGraw Hill
>
> Unix System Administration Handbook 2ed Ed. / Evi Memeth, Garth Snyder, Scott
> Seebass, Trent R. Hein / 1995 / Prentice Hall
>
> System Analysis for Business Management / Stanford L. Optner / 1960 / Prentice
> Hall
>
> Assembly Language Programming for the 80386 / Judi M. Fernandez / Ruth Ashley
> / 1990 / McGraw Hill
>
> Inside the Window$ 95 Registry / Ron Petrusha / 1996 / O'Reilly Nutshell
> Handbook
>
> Inside the Window$ 95 File System / Stan Mitchell / 1997 / O'Reilly Nutshell
> Handbook
>
> A note about the last two on the list: I am guessing someone will be
> interested in them for reverse-engineering purposes... I wouldn't bother you
> with such books otherwise.
>
> Please contact me 0ff-list for more details. I think you can find details
> about the books on-line.
>
> All books are in mint condition.
>
> All are for giveaway - no charge, unless any of you have other books he/she
> would like to get rid of. Donations will be appreciated too.
>
> Some of the books were given to me by others who left the country, so if any
> of you can tell me one or some of these books are absolute and belong in the
> garbage, let me know.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Amichai Rotman
>

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[OT] Giveaway Books

2003-10-12 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi Gang,

I moved to another apartment, so i have to get rid of some books I no longer 
need / use.

The list has the following format: Book Name / Book Author / Year / Publisher

Theory and Problems of Basic Mathematics for Electricity and Electronics 2ed 
Ed /Arthur Baiser / 1993 / McGraw Hill

HTML 3.2 & CGI Unleashed (Professional Reference Edition) / John December and 
Mark Ginsburg / 1996/ Sams

Basic System Analysis / Richard W. Lott / 1971/ Canfield Press

Bit-Mapped Graphics, 2ed Ed / Steve Rimmer / 1993 / McGraw Hill

Unix System Administration Handbook 2ed Ed. / Evi Memeth, Garth Snyder, Scott 
Seebass, Trent R. Hein / 1995 / Prentice Hall

System Analysis for Business Management / Stanford L. Optner / 1960 / Prentice 
Hall

Assembly Language Programming for the 80386 / Judi M. Fernandez / Ruth Ashley 
/ 1990 / McGraw Hill

Inside the Window$ 95 Registry / Ron Petrusha / 1996 / O'Reilly Nutshell 
Handbook

Inside the Window$ 95 File System / Stan Mitchell / 1997 / O'Reilly Nutshell 
Handbook

A note about the last two on the list: I am guessing someone will be 
interested in them for reverse-engineering purposes... I wouldn't bother you 
with such books otherwise.

Please contact me 0ff-list for more details. I think you can find details 
about the books on-line. 

All books are in mint condition. 

All are for giveaway - no charge, unless any of you have other books he/she 
would like to get rid of. Donations will be appreciated too.

Some of the books were given to me by others who left the country, so if any 
of you can tell me one or some of these books are absolute and belong in the 
garbage, let me know.

Thank you,

Amichai Rotman


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Re: Old computer linux dist.

2003-10-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 09:23:19AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Tzahi Fadida wrote:
> 
> >10x,
> >yes, thats sounds good, i would like to get the image.
> >and i don't need openoffice.
> >
> You'll have to remove it yourself, for the time being.
> 
> >i have 24mb ram though.
> >also, how do i dump the image via the ethernet connection? because last 
> >time, it
> >took me 2 days to set the external cdrom driver working.
> >
> Tricky. Set up an HTTP or FTP server, and connect to it using the 
> "network install" boot disk of some distro.
> Personally, I suggest you compile netcat statically (so it has no 
> external dependancies). Get it to your computer using FTP. Then, format 
> and mount the partitions you need, cd to the proposed new root, and do 
> "nc -l -p 12345 | tar xvzf -". On the other computer, do "nc 
> 172.24.15.132 12345 < image.tgz". This way you won't need temporary 
> storage for the tar file, which may prove more than your computer can 
> hold (both tar and extracted images).

Grab Tom's Root-Boot floppy. Has nc, tar, relatively good network card
support (including laptops). a minimal dhcp client is included. 
it even has 'man'. Should have nfs support,  but I never tried it.

It doesn't support reiserfs, though. ext3 will have to do...

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released

2003-10-12 Thread shlomi

For some reason, 2 of my last posts to this list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) were 
lost =0  

Anyway, this is a repost, i hope you don't get it doubled.

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> One note: the KDE cursor that knoppix so likes (left_ptr) was too
> "delicate" and did a good job of hiding in the background of my laptop
> (some compaq)

maybe i should remove this silly cursor ? ... i don't really like it either.

>
> > * qt3.2 has some issues, for example look in kicker for the hide buttons,
> > also * can you map the "win" key to the kemnu? (mdk does that)
>
> I personally rather use it as a language keyboard switcher. You have two
> of them, located on both sides of the keyboard. Thus you can always
> press on one of them with one hand when the other hand presses on a
> relevant key (for typing a number of words in the other language).
>
> > * where is the show dektop button?
>
> Who needs it? Why should there be any important items on the desktop at
> all? put important items in places where they can't be hidden.
>
>
> BTW: are fat/ntfs partitions mounted with the option 'utf8' ?
>

i changed all mount commands in /etc/init.d/knopppix-autocinfig to mount with 
this option, however, it still has some issues. 
the option "iso8859-8,codepage=..." worked better in kazit1 as far as i 
recall. i'm considering to change it back.

> > + bb ownz! (whwre can iget more of this?)
>
> Add that aalib webcam ;-)
>
> > + OO1 final!
>
> BTW: what about OOo with Hebrew localization? What is its status?

i was told that it is still in testing stages and not stable enough.


Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> Here are my observations of you remaster:
>
> general:
> 
> * Thin-Keramic is nice, but keramic is better if you want a better unified
> desktop

i wish KDE would switch to thin-keramic, it looks much better :\
anyways, you're right about this...and i think thin-keramic has some issues.

> * qt3.2 has some issues, for example look in kicker for the hide buttons,
> also in kde3.2 there are issues with khtml, i could not test them since i
> had problems with iwiz, downgrade to qt3.1 please.

The hide buttons look like that because of thinKeramic - i set the flat panels 
option. what other issues does qt3.2 have? 

> * iwiz should be in configuration menu
> * iwiz should run as root (sudo or whatever?)
> * iwiz does not run even in root, since it needs to wite in RO dirs:

it's kinda hard for me to test since i don't have to use it to connect.
BTW, what kind of connection do you have?

i have not tested all this iwiz stuff yet, and i don't really have a way to 
test it. but I'll see what i can do. That why i didn't put a shortcut on 
desktop. because it's still experimental. There are links for it in the menu 
i think, generated by my Debian packing , in 'Applications'.

> * localized graphics maybe?

what do you mean ?

> * touch /etc/modules/2.4.22-xfs... and friends (they are older then other
> files)

OK. i know about this.

> * can you map the "win" key to the kemnu? (mdk does that)

do you know how to do it in Knoppix?

> * please add gtkgraph, or better program (kde based a BIG plus!)

OK.

> things that may be removed without any problems:

huh?

> * where is the show dektop button?

Huh ? i see it in it's usual place.

> * mixer volume is is 50%, can it be put to 95%?

yes, i think it's a matter of adding another conf file
OK.

> * qparted does not load

i didn't touch it. does it load in Knoppix3.3 ?

> * xine is not setup up to play avi's by default
> * the same for xmms

what? you mean you don't use Noatun and Kaboodle ? :D
OK. 

> * set the default font in "konsole" to "console" please

OK, Knoppix default really is ugly, isn't it?

> * xmms-bidi? i see only garbage in files, try "LC_CTYPE=he_IL.ISO-8859-8
> biditext xmms" works in mdk9.2

xmms-bidi is experimental package i built with patch from 
http://xmms-bidi.sourceforge.net
it works great on my system, but for unknown reason, still doesn't work on 
Knoppix. I'm working on it.

>
> - remove bochs
> no default image. and why the hell do i need it in knopix?

"why" you ask? hmm , don't know .. it's Knoppix! it has a lot of junk in it , 
but it's kinda fun to play with all this junk, don't you think ?

>
> - remove wine
> hard to configure on real boxes.
> no autodetection of any thing.
> rarely works (from my experience)

i never used it, but don't you think it might become useful?

>
> + bb ownz! (whwre can iget more of this?)
> i have seen demos... but this is definetly my favorite (my other two are
> one for windows with great sound sync and another one from the 4k asm
> contest)

LOL, yes, it's cool, i didn't put it in, it comes with Knoppix3.3

This is the homepage of AA-project : 
http://aa-project.sourceforge.net/

Check out this ASCII-mpeg-player : 
http://spondooliks.org/alex/apron/apron.php3

>
> + OO1 final!

With the crystal icons, like you requested :)

>
> + gideon and not kdevelop!

i didn't check yet if you can compile a simple KDE "hello, world!" 
appli

Re: Error code from a shell pipeline.

2003-10-12 Thread Oded Arbel
On Sunday 12 October 2003 18:38, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> (make | echo) || echo hello
> 
> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.

> I want that if one of the (first) components of the pipeline exits with an
> error code, I'll know about it somehow. How?

an erronouse exit code (actually, just "not true") does not break the pipe. 
how about 
(make || echo "oops" >&2 ) |  cat-or-something

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released

2003-10-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 12:12:26PM +, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> Hi Shlomi, 
> 
> Here are my observations of you remaster:
> 
> general:
> 
> * Thin-Keramic is nice, but keramic is better if you want a better unified 
> desktop

One note: the KDE cursor that knoppix so likes (left_ptr) was too
"delicate" and did a good job of hiding in the background of my laptop
(some compaq)

> * qt3.2 has some issues, for example look in kicker for the hide buttons, also 
> * can you map the "win" key to the kemnu? (mdk does that)

I personally rather use it as a language keyboard switcher. You have two
of them, located on both sides of the keyboard. Thus you can always
press on one of them with one hand when the other hand presses on a
relevant key (for typing a number of words in the other language).

> * please add gtkgraph, or better program (kde based a BIG plus!)
> things that may be removed without any problems:
> * where is the show dektop button?

Who needs it? Why should there be any important items on the desktop at
all? put important items in places where they can't be hidden.

> * mixer volume is is 50%, can it be put to 95%?
> * qparted does not load
> * xine is not setup up to play avi's by default
> * the same for xmms
> * set the default font in "konsole" to "console" please
> * xmms-bidi? i see only garbage in files, try "LC_CTYPE=he_IL.ISO-8859-8 
> biditext xmms" works in mdk9.2

BTW: are fat/ntfs partitions mounted with the option 'utf8' ?

> + bb ownz! (whwre can iget more of this?)

Add that aalib webcam ;-)

> 
> + OO1 final!

BTW: what about OOo with Hebrew localization? What is its status?

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Error code from a shell pipeline.

2003-10-12 Thread Shlomi Fish

<<<
$ make || echo hello
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
hello
>>>

But OTOH:

<<<
(make | echo) || echo hello

make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
>>>

And also:

<<<
$ (echo | make) || echo hello
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
hello
>>>

I want that if one of the (first) components of the pipeline exits with an
error code, I'll know about it somehow. How?

Regards,

Shlomi Fish




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Re: Please recommend linux sites

2003-10-12 Thread Yehuda Drori
ביום ראשון, 12 באוקטובר 2003, 15:13, Alon Altman כתב:
> Hi,
>   We are building the branding for the "Haifux distro" based on RH9. We are
> looking for Hebrew linux sites and useful English sites to include in the
> bookmarks of the installed system.
>
>   We currently have the following sites (including sponsors):
> http://counter.li.org/
> http://fr2.rpmfind.net
> http://freshmeat.net/
> http://li.org/
> http://linux.israel.net/
> http://slashdot.org/
> http://sourceforge.net/
> http://www.asat.co.il
> http://www.beyondsecurity.com/
> http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/
> http://www.google.com/en
> http://www.haifux.org/index.html
> http://www.haifux.org/newcomers/
> http://www.hamakor.org.il/
> http://www.iglu.org.il/
> http://www.ligad.com/
> http://www.linux.org.il/
> http://www.penguin.org.il/
> http://www.tldp.org/
> http://www.whatsup.co.il/
>
>   Thanks,
> Alon

hi.. small ajustment...

whatsup is:
http://whatsup.org.il not co.il

10x...

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Re: Old computer linux dist.

2003-10-12 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 12:52:08AM +0200, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
> also, how do i dump the image via the ethernet connection? because last time, it
> took me 2 days to set the external cdrom driver working.
> 


  What am I missing in the following plan:

1. Boot from floppy.
2. Configure the kbd.
3. Configure the network.
4. Go to 2nd VT. 
5. Mount the fs where the image resides -t nfs /mnt.
6. dd the image to your local device.
7. Mount the image on /target.
8. chroot /target.
9. Make any adjustments that are appropriate.

?

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Re: Please recommend linux sites

2003-10-12 Thread linux-il
Alon Altman wrote:

Hi,
  We are building the branding for the "Haifux distro" based on RH9. We are
looking for Hebrew linux sites and useful English sites to include in the
bookmarks of the installed system.
  We currently have the following sites (including sponsors):
[...]
http://www.google.com/en
[...]

http://www.google.com/linux ?
(the google Linux sites search)
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Re: Please recommend linux sites

2003-10-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, Alon Altman wrote:

> Hi,
>   We are building the branding for the "Haifux distro" based on RH9. We are
> looking for Hebrew linux sites and useful English sites to include in the
> bookmarks of the installed system.
>

http://lwn.net/

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

>   We currently have the following sites (including sponsors):
> http://counter.li.org/
> http://fr2.rpmfind.net
> http://freshmeat.net/
> http://li.org/
> http://linux.israel.net/
> http://slashdot.org/
> http://sourceforge.net/
> http://www.asat.co.il
> http://www.beyondsecurity.com/
> http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/
> http://www.google.com/en
> http://www.haifux.org/index.html
> http://www.haifux.org/newcomers/
> http://www.hamakor.org.il/
> http://www.iglu.org.il/
> http://www.ligad.com/
> http://www.linux.org.il/
> http://www.penguin.org.il/
> http://www.tldp.org/
> http://www.whatsup.co.il/
>
>   Thanks,
> Alon
>
>



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Please recommend linux sites

2003-10-12 Thread Alon Altman
Hi,
  We are building the branding for the "Haifux distro" based on RH9. We are
looking for Hebrew linux sites and useful English sites to include in the
bookmarks of the installed system.

  We currently have the following sites (including sponsors):
http://counter.li.org/
http://fr2.rpmfind.net
http://freshmeat.net/
http://li.org/
http://linux.israel.net/
http://slashdot.org/
http://sourceforge.net/
http://www.asat.co.il
http://www.beyondsecurity.com/
http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/
http://www.google.com/en
http://www.haifux.org/index.html
http://www.haifux.org/newcomers/
http://www.hamakor.org.il/
http://www.iglu.org.il/
http://www.ligad.com/
http://www.linux.org.il/
http://www.penguin.org.il/
http://www.tldp.org/
http://www.whatsup.co.il/

  Thanks,
Alon

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Re: mbox manipulation utility

2003-10-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote:

> hi all,
>
> Can anyone recommend an mbox manipulation library for me? I need to
> compare, merge, split, etc. several mbox files, which have some overlap.
>

Try the Mail::Box Perl module from CPAN. It's quite slow, but does its
job.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

> On a very related note - I have a reasonable coverage of Linux-IL since
> about 1995. If anyone has anything dating further back, please contact
> me. Otherwise, unless I manage to put the archives online and people
> find their wonderful flame from January 1996 missing, things should
> pretty much be complete.
>
>Shachar
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released

2003-10-12 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Hi Shlomi, 

Here are my observations of you remaster:

general:

* Thin-Keramic is nice, but keramic is better if you want a better unified 
desktop
* qt3.2 has some issues, for example look in kicker for the hide buttons, also 
in kde3.2 there are issues with khtml, i could not test them since i had 
problems with iwiz, downgrade to qt3.1 please.
* iwiz should be in configuration menu
* iwiz should run as root (sudo or whatever?)
* iwiz does not run even in root, since it needs to wite in RO dirs:
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ls: /usr/share/internet_db/connections/*.tar.gz: No such file or directory
tar (child): /usr/share/internet_db/connections/My Connection.tar.gz: Cannot 
open: Read-only file system
tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
* localized graphics maybe?
* touch /etc/modules/2.4.22-xfs... and friends (they are older then other 
files)
* can you map the "win" key to the kemnu? (mdk does that)
* please add gtkgraph, or better program (kde based a BIG plus!)
things that may be removed without any problems:
* where is the show dektop button?
* mixer volume is is 50%, can it be put to 95%?
* qparted does not load
* xine is not setup up to play avi's by default
* the same for xmms
* set the default font in "konsole" to "console" please
* xmms-bidi? i see only garbage in files, try "LC_CTYPE=he_IL.ISO-8859-8 
biditext xmms" works in mdk9.2

- remove bochs
no default image. and why the hell do i need it in knopix?

- remove wine
hard to configure on real boxes.
no autodetection of any thing.
rarely works (from my experience)

+ bb ownz! (whwre can iget more of this?)
i have seen demos... but this is definetly my favorite (my other two are one 
for windows with great sound sync and another one from the 4k asm contest)

+ OO1 final!

+ gideon and not kdevelop!

full hebrew style
-
* FireBird uses a diffedrent font for menu then system (kde)

lindows style
-
* please use ksplash-ml and set the splash to "xp"

mac style:
--
* hack please the karamba theme to show the k menu on the right
* use the same background image as full hebrew style

Looks great btw, real love as been put into this project. Just need to fix 
some small things and you are done.

IMHO release kazit 2, before kde3.2 with kde3.1, since there are many problems 
regarding hebrew there. You may want to do kazit 2.1 with kde3.2 but IMHO 
kde3.2 will not be really do your remaster until kde3.2.2 or kde3.2.3. 
Stick to kde3.1.X.

בשבת, 11 באוקטובר 2003, 22:11, נכתב על ידי shlomi:
> On October 11th 2003, the Kazit Project released the first beta release of
> Kazit2.
>
> Kazit started as a Hebrew-localized KnoppixKDE remaster
> (http://www.kde.org/il/knoppixkde/).
> however , KnoppixKDE is no longer under development.
>
> Kazit2 is a remaster based on Knoppix3.3
> It's purpose is to provide a Knoppix version with full Hebrew support.
>
> (*) FEATURES:
>
> * All locale setting were set to work as UTF8
> * Hebrew language packages installed
> * Improved keyboared layout switcher
> * Open office upgraded to version 1.1 (no language packages)
> * HSpell installed using 'multispell' for both Hebrew and English spell
> checking
> * Works with Culmus fonts by default
> * Added a textual menu on startup for choosing between full Hebrew or
> "Hebrew enabled" modes
> * Several Hebrew related packages were installed: fribidi, bidiv, hebcal,
> qtzmanim, switcher
> * Some tools (iwiz, my 012 PPTP script) for dialling PPTP/ADSL
> * the 'Frozen bubble' game was not removed this time :D
>
> (*) MORE INFO:
>
> For additional information in Hebrew:
> http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit.index.html
>
> For a list of packaged that were removed browse:
> http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-removed.txt
>
> For a list of packages that were added browse:
> http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-added.txt
>
> for a full list (output of 'dpkg -l') :
> http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-full-list.t
>xt
>
> Please note that these are unstable development releases with missing or
> non-working features and are not intended for production systems.
>
> If you think that some package should be included, please email me and
> explain what package and why you think it should be included. Requests will
> be considered for the next release.
>
> (*) DOWNLOAD
>
> ISO file available for download at:
> http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/
>
> (*) FUTURE
>
> I would like to receive as many as possible fixes and bug reports and
> release Kazit2-final when kde3.2 get released. There might be another Beta
> release till the final one.
>
> (*) SCREENSHOTS/
>
> Not available yet, will be later on.
>
> (*)
>
> I hope you'll find this remaster useful, it can be a great tool for Linux
> marketing IMO.
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New Linux Israel Net website

2003-10-12 Thread Linux Israel Net
Good morning.
I'm very proud to announce that the new Linux Israe Net website uploaded
this morning: http://linux.israel.net .
The new website have a new and fresh desgin, more contents and more
categories.
Please feel free to send me a feedback about the website and the contents.

Hag-Sukot-Sameach,
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Re: Old computer linux dist.

2003-10-12 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Tzahi Fadida wrote:

10x,
yes, thats sounds good, i would like to get the image.
and i don't need openoffice.
You'll have to remove it yourself, for the time being.

i have 24mb ram though.
also, how do i dump the image via the ethernet connection? because last time, it
took me 2 days to set the external cdrom driver working.
Tricky. Set up an HTTP or FTP server, and connect to it using the 
"network install" boot disk of some distro.
Personally, I suggest you compile netcat statically (so it has no 
external dependancies). Get it to your computer using FTP. Then, format 
and mount the partitions you need, cd to the proposed new root, and do 
"nc -l -p 12345 | tar xvzf -". On the other computer, do "nc 
172.24.15.132 12345 < image.tgz". This way you won't need temporary 
storage for the tar file, which may prove more than your computer can 
hold (both tar and extracted images).

also, is there a way to hibernate my thinkpad 755cx with linux? it will probably
need a fat16 on the first partition and the file hibernate.sys but there is
still a need to some software to activate it.
 

Try http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/. It's a great site. If you find out 
new insights, you can contribute your feedback as well.

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