Re: Elections and Firefox
Maybe firefox is just confused like the rest of us;) Ely On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il wrote: Hi Gabor, It worked fine in Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; he; rv:1.8.1.4) Gecko/20070515 Firefox/2.0.0.4 yesterday. Today it is not working. More disturbingly, Firefox can't tell me who won, not even the Hebrew localized version. Regards, - yba On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Gabor Szabo wrote: Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:29:11 +0200 From: Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com To: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Elections and Firefox This is supposed to be the page showing the results in Modiin where I live: I only see the layout but no data when using with Firefox 3.0.6 http://www.knesset.gov.il/elections18/heb/results/ballot_results.aspx?city=1200 Gabor http://szabgab.com/blog.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- EE 77 7F 30 4A 64 2E C5 83 5F E7 49 A6 82 29 BA~. .~ Tk Open Systems =}ooO--U--Ooo{= - y...@tkos.co.il - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il - ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Elections and Firefox
I see it perfectly (i think) with the same version of firefox on F10. what version of flash player do you have? maybe you've blocked some javascript? On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: This is supposed to be the page showing the results in Modiin where I live: I only see the layout but no data when using with Firefox 3.0.6 http://www.knesset.gov.il/elections18/heb/results/ballot_results.aspx?city=1200 Gabor http://szabgab.com/blog.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Elections and Firefox
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Dvir Volk dvir...@gmail.com wrote: I see it perfectly (i think) with the same version of firefox on F10. what version of flash player do you have? maybe you've blocked some javascript? Flash 9.0 r31 and Javascript is AFAIK fully enabled. I also have Greasmonkey that might interfere but it is currently unemployed so probably does not do any harm. Gabor On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: This is supposed to be the page showing the results in Modiin where I live: I only see the layout but no data when using with Firefox 3.0.6 http://www.knesset.gov.il/elections18/heb/results/ballot_results.aspx?city=1200 -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html Perl Training in Israel http://www.pti.co.il/ Test Automation Tipshttp://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Elections and Firefox
Flash 9.0 r31 and Javascript is AFAIK fully enabled. i have 9,0,115,0 installed (it's a debugger version that comes with flexbuilder for linux. which btw is not stable yet but i managed to deliver a project for a client with it successfully). the latest linux version is 10.0.15.3, i'd consider an upgrade if i were you. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Bank Leumi site finally works from Linux
On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Yuval Hager wrote: I was happily amazed to find out that the new revamped site of Bank Leumi fully works using Opera on Linux. I also tested FF, and it seems to work fine too (including viewing cheques images, graphs etc.). Definately does NOT work for me. What URL are you using to login ? To what URL are you sent when you try to view your account information ? Could it have anything to do with the fact that my account is in HaYashir HaRishon ? So long IE in Crossover, and thanks for all the sites :) --yuval -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Bank Leumi site finally works from Linux
On Thursday 12 February 2009, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Yuval Hager wrote: I was happily amazed to find out that the new revamped site of Bank Leumi fully works using Opera on Linux. I also tested FF, and it seems to work fine too (including viewing cheques images, graphs etc.). Definately does NOT work for me. What URL are you using to login ? To what URL are you sent when you try to view your account information ? Could it have anything to do with the fact that my account is in HaYashir HaRishon ? I have no idea. I am not sure everyone got the new site. The simplest thing is to call them and ask them to upgrade you. You will notice the upgrade, as it looks much better and there's a 'we've upgraded the site' welcome message. --y signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Bank Leumi site finally works from Linux
On Thursday 12 February 2009, Ira Abramov wrote: I think we should send them a really fancy letter with a few dozen signatures, saying thanks for finally fixing it. I'm not cynical. they got nags and negative rap from us all the years, they need to get appreciation too I'm all for it. This can help moving the discussion to positive grounds. I believe that things happen better on positive incentives rather negative. --y signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
looking for a live distro for a damaged computer
hi A friend of mine has a damaged laptop - no display (not even via the VGA connector). i want to use it as a server. to do that i need access it first. but i have no display ... I am looking for a live distro (CD) that will automatically (without needing keyboard / mouse / display ) connect to the network (via ethernet dhcp) and run sshd. my other options are: 1. modify a live cd to do that 2. install linux on a different computer, and then transfer the hard-drive to the broken laptop. however, i prefer to have a live distro that does that already. anyone knows of duch a distro ? 10x, erez. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: looking for a live distro for a damaged computer
2009/2/12 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com hi A friend of mine has a damaged laptop - no display (not even via the VGA connector). i want to use it as a server. to do that i need access it first. but i have no display ... I am looking for a live distro (CD) that will automatically (without needing keyboard / mouse / display ) connect to the network (via ethernet dhcp) and run sshd. Is there really a 'no keyboard' requirement? Because I installed numerous headless Gentoo servers simply by booting from CD (gentoo-minimal - which does not load a GUI by default), waiting a couple of minutes for boot to end, and typing : passwd cr somepass cr somepass cr /etc/init.d/sshd start cr - and then continued from a networked computer after taking the IP from the DHCP leases list... -- Shimi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: looking for a live distro for a damaged computer
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 12:16 PM, shimi linux...@shimi.net wrote: 2009/2/12 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com hi A friend of mine has a damaged laptop - no display (not even via the VGA connector). i want to use it as a server. to do that i need access it first. but i have no display ... I am looking for a live distro (CD) that will automatically (without needing keyboard / mouse / display ) connect to the network (via ethernet dhcp) and run sshd. Is there really a 'no keyboard' requirement? Because I installed numerous headless Gentoo servers simply by booting from CD (gentoo-minimal - which does not load a GUI by default), waiting a couple of minutes for boot to end, and typing : passwd cr somepass cr somepass cr /etc/init.d/sshd start cr - and then continued from a networked computer after taking the IP from the DHCP leases list... -- Shimi if it works, that is great. but if it doesn't, i can't know what the problem is. so to minimize the options i preffer it does it automatically ... ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Bank Leumi site finally works from Linux
From: Yuval Hager yu...@avramzon.net Subject: Bank Leumi site finally works from Linux To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Date: Wednesday, 11 February, 2009, 1:27 PM I was happily amazed to find out that the new revamped site of Bank Leumi fully works using Opera on Linux. I also tested FF, and it seems to work fine too (including viewing cheques images, graphs etc.). Indeed, I just verified this to be true. With firefox, there are still a bunch of annoying bugs (like buttons that don't work), but all the bugs I saw so far have workarounds (like other buttons leading you to the same place). It really seems like the people who designed this site tried to make it compatible with Firefox, although they probably did not test it as rigourously as they tested on IE. I never thought this day would come - I've been waiting for it for around a decade! -- Nadav Har'El|Thursday, Feb 12 2009, 18 Shevat 5769 n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Attention: There will be a rain dance http://nadav.harel.org.il |Friday night, weather permitting. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication
OK, So I've setup CentOS 5.2 on Xen VPS at VPSLink, compiled latest Asterisk (1.4.23) very smoothly according to the instructions at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CentOS+5+and+Asterisk+1.4.x+installation up to and including the asterisk -...vvvc and stop now. Also installed the rest of the addons. Only deviation I see is that I setup MySQL not to listen on TCP sockets. Other then that I copied all the config bits from that page to the corresponding files. Now what? How do I test this? I have a Nokia E71 with a built-in SIP client which I'd like to connect to this thing. I'd like to have Israeli, a Brazilian and possibly temporarily an Australian number which will ring on my phone. Going to didww.com I'm not sure what should I look for - Phone to VOIP or Phone to IP-PBX? both options cost $US10 a month, I don't see an option to pick the allegedly cheaper 077 numbers. Anything beyond about $5/month makes this possibly uneconomical, as for the long term I don't spend that much on international calls and Skypeout subscription can provide unlimited calls for 5 euro/month (for minimum of three months). (We have 4000 free Skype minutes from our mobiles so Skypeout is very convenient to call from wherever we are). Thanks, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication
2009/2/12 Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com: How do I test this? Write an extensions file and use http://www.didww.com/service_did.php to test DIDs for free. I have a Nokia E71 with a built-in SIP client which I'd like to connect to this thing. Set up the credentials in sip.conf and connect from the Nokia, verify you can register and you can see the registration. Going to didww.com I'm not sure what should I look for - Phone to VOIP or Phone to IP-PBX? both options cost $US10 a month, I don't see an option to pick the allegedly cheaper 077 numbers. Indeed, it is gone from their screen. A mistake perhaps? Try emailing sa...@didww.com. Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with DIDWW in any way other than being a happy customer. Anything beyond about $5/month makes this possibly uneconomical, as for the long term I don't spend that much on international calls and Skypeout subscription can provide unlimited calls for 5 euro/month (for minimum of three months). (We have 4000 free Skype minutes from our mobiles so Skypeout is very convenient to call from wherever we are). For me it's not about my cost, it's about the (perceived) cost of people who call me. This way I can have people call an Israeli number to get at me and they know they don't pay much. Plus don't dis the geek factor... -- Arik ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:04:07PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: I have a Nokia E71 with a built-in SIP client which I'd like to connect to this thing. The easiest way to test it is to use a computer with a SIP client. Then you have access to network debugging tools, etc. From Windows and Mac I prefer X-Lite which is free as in beer, not open source. http://www.counterpath.net/x-lite.htmlactive=4 There are plenty of SIP clients for Linux. I'd like to have Israeli, a Brazilian and possibly temporarily an Australian number which will ring on my phone. Anything beyond about $5/month makes this possibly uneconomical, as for the long term I don't spend that much on international calls and Skypeout subscription can provide unlimited calls for 5 euro/month (for minimum of three months). (We have 4000 free Skype minutes from our mobiles so Skypeout is very convenient to call from wherever we are). Skype is a cheap, but IMHO not very good alternative. From my experience it's not consistent. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's unusable, often it is just ok. Considering their price $6 (US) or $13 (US) with more countries it's a good deal, especially because they are up front on what too much is. Last I checked there was no SkypeIn from Israel, although it is now one of their unlimited SkypeOut countries. Although I expect that most of the people reading this are too young to remember satellite long distance calls, most of the time, it's better than they were. If you make a lot of calls to Israeli cell phones, you might want to check out Orange's deal. It's 600 minutes a month of outgoing calls to any number in Israel, plus the ISP side of a 2.5m line for 139 NIS. Additional minutes are 29ag, which is the cheapest I've seen to a cell phone, but awfully high to a landline. I don't know if they would let you take it and just use time with your own IP PBX, or if you would have to add your own system after their box. Since if I remember correctly, you don't live here, you would be in effect buying a family member an internet connection. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Ubuntu Dok
Hi Dotan, Just read what you sent me... I don't mind if you post it on a Wiki - but I did not understand - what would you like to post there? As long as you send me a link to the post and mention my name as contributor... :-) BTW - where you successful? .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 16:10, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/7 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il: I was able to update the BIOS on my HP DX2300 (also a business-class Micro Tower) with so-called 'Microsoft only' tools. I made a FreeDOS floppy and put the DOS AWFLASH executable with the BIOS *.bin file and it went great! Send me your Laptop details, and I'll send you a solution for updating the BIOS without Windows. If you don't mind, Amichai, I'd like to post that info in a wiki or on my website. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: looking for a live distro for a damaged computer
You may want to check Knoppix, either CD or DVD versions. IIRC they can be customized (and burned) to operate SSHD service upon booting. If it has serial port, you can also login via serial with many live CD's. Hetz 2009/2/12 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 12:16 PM, shimi linux...@shimi.net wrote: 2009/2/12 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com hi A friend of mine has a damaged laptop - no display (not even via the VGA connector). i want to use it as a server. to do that i need access it first. but i have no display ... I am looking for a live distro (CD) that will automatically (without needing keyboard / mouse / display ) connect to the network (via ethernet dhcp) and run sshd. Is there really a 'no keyboard' requirement? Because I installed numerous headless Gentoo servers simply by booting from CD (gentoo-minimal - which does not load a GUI by default), waiting a couple of minutes for boot to end, and typing : passwd cr somepass cr somepass cr /etc/init.d/sshd start cr - and then continued from a networked computer after taking the IP from the DHCP leases list... -- Shimi if it works, that is great. but if it doesn't, i can't know what the problem is. so to minimize the options i preffer it does it automatically ... ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: what's a reliable, easy to use slide show presenter?
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:21:07 -0800 Michael Shiloh michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com wrote: Micha Feigin wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:53:30 -0800 Michael Shiloh michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com wrote: Big Lesson: Big lesson learned: It took us a long time to get the projector to display from my laptop. It took a combination of the screen resolution applet, the Thinkpad Fn buttons, and rebooting, and truthfully, I'm not sure exactly what did it. We finally got it to work mirroring my laptop screen, so I didn't have any secrets - whatever I typed was in front of the audience. This actually was amusing because I opened a terminal to invoke kuickshow. Later someone from the audience came up and said Wow, you do robots, fire, and command line. Really cool. (The talk was about machine art.) What thinkpad and what graphics card? T60 Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (from lshw) I was given this link now on the linux-thinkpad group http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html Several people reported using mirrored desktops dynamically. Also dual screen, but apparently dri fails if the virtual desktop is more than 2048x2048 so you may have a problem with videos and 3d when using dual desktops. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: what's a reliable, easy to use slide show presenter?
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:52:47 +0200 Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:21:07 -0800 Michael Shiloh michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com wrote: Micha Feigin wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:53:30 -0800 Michael Shiloh michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com wrote: Big Lesson: Big lesson learned: It took us a long time to get the projector to display from my laptop. It took a combination of the screen resolution applet, the Thinkpad Fn buttons, and rebooting, and truthfully, I'm not sure exactly what did it. We finally got it to work mirroring my laptop screen, so I didn't have any secrets - whatever I typed was in front of the audience. This actually was amusing because I opened a terminal to invoke kuickshow. Later someone from the audience came up and said Wow, you do robots, fire, and command line. Really cool. (The talk was about machine art.) What thinkpad and what graphics card? T60 Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (from lshw) I was given this link now on the linux-thinkpad group http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html Several people reported using mirrored desktops dynamically. Also dual screen, but apparently dri fails if the virtual desktop is more than 2048x2048 so you may have a problem with videos and 3d when using dual desktops. There was also this post: -- I tackled this today with a T41 and found this page which was quite helpful: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2 I found that reconfiguring the xserver-xorg package (Debian Unstable) left me with an almost empty xorg.conf, but it worked! I was playing with a Samsung 22 inch LCD TV and it worked out very well. I didn't try multi-screen, though I have no doubt that it probably would have worked. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication
Amos Shapira wrote: OK, So I've setup CentOS 5.2 on Xen VPS at VPSLink, compiled latest Asterisk (1.4.23) very smoothly according to the instructions at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CentOS+5+and+Asterisk+1.4.x+installation up to and including the asterisk -...vvvc and stop now. Also installed the rest of the addons. Does that include the zaptel ztdummy server required for MeetMe and MusicOnHold? I couldn't get it to work; I don't really need it either, but it would be nice to have. Lylix.net is priced competitively with VPSlink, and have ztdummy available within their virtual machines - however, their lowest level is equivalent to VPSlink's link2 which sets you back at $15/month. I'm considering switching over there if I'd need meetme and didn't get ztdummy to work on VPSlink. How do I test this? I recommend twinkle on Linux. It has a log view that is immensely helpful in debugging, and got me much farther than Ekiga or Wengo did. Going to didww.com I'm not sure what should I look for - Phone to VOIP or Phone to IP-PBX? both options cost $US10 a month, I don't see an option to pick the allegedly cheaper 077 numbers. There were also 073 numbers (cellcom) that were $3/month. However, everything except 03 disappeared from DIDWW and also diamondcard.us - this doesn't look like a coincidence. Perhaps someone knows what has happened? I already have a couple of 077 DIDs but this is troubling. Anything beyond about $5/month makes this possibly uneconomical, as for the long term I don't spend that much on international calls and Skypeout subscription can provide unlimited calls for 5 euro/month (for minimum of three months). (We have 4000 free Skype minutes from our mobiles so Skypeout is very convenient to call from wherever we are). Having played with Asterisk a little, and having set up hosting and stuff - I'd say that there are services that will be pricewise competitive, such as Jajah, Skype, and OlehPhone. Each one has a different set of restrictions on the flexibility that an asterisk server provides, but they take away all the headaches. If you're only looking to save money, this is probably NOT the best option when you also factor in the cost of your time, paid or leisure. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: looking for a live distro for a damaged computer
Erez, If you can blind type you can use SysRescueCD: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page It starts everything you asked, it has minimal requirements and works on any new hardware I gave it - even those that Debian Testing/Unstable couldn't boot to. Once it is up, you need to write the command 'passwd', to type the root password, otherwise you can't remotely login to it via SSH. On Thursday 12 February 2009 11:58:51 Erez D wrote: hi A friend of mine has a damaged laptop - no display (not even via the VGA connector). i want to use it as a server. to do that i need access it first. but i have no display ... I am looking for a live distro (CD) that will automatically (without needing keyboard / mouse / display ) connect to the network (via ethernet dhcp) and run sshd. my other options are: 1. modify a live cd to do that 2. install linux on a different computer, and then transfer the hard-drive to the broken laptop. however, i prefer to have a live distro that does that already. anyone knows of duch a distro ? 10x, erez. -- Noam Rathaus CTO no...@beyondsecurity.com http://www.beyondsecurity.com Know that you are safe. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[WEB STANDARDS COMPLIANCE] Bituach Leumi - an Internet Explorer Holdout
Today I tried to browse to the payments site of Bituach Leumi at: https://b2b.btl.gov.il/b2b/framesetlogonanonymous.asp The Enter (כניסה) button does not work for Firefox 2.0.0.19 (my browser version). In fact, the Web site rudely proclaims support only for Internet Explorer (not even beta versions). I think this Web site can qualify for the Oxymoron of the Decade. They are probably strict about browser support due to qualification testing due to security concerns, yet they chose to support a browser notorious for its security vulnerabilities. Of course, there was no contact information in the page itself. Their Webmaster/s may be having a clue and are trying to hide from the deluge of angry phone calls and E-mail messages... --- Omer -- MS-Windows is the Pal-Kal of the PC world. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Ubuntu Dok
2009/2/12 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il: Hi Dotan, Just read what you sent me... I don't mind if you post it on a Wiki - but I did not understand - what would you like to post there? As long as you send me a link to the post and mention my name as contributor... :-) BTW - where you successful? I did not need to flash the BIOS of my laptop. But I would like the info to be in a public place so that it will be easy to find. Put it on some Linux wiki, or write the instructions to me and I will post it to dotancohen.com. Of course, you will be given credit! I'm an engineer, not a politician :) -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 06:15:50PM +0200, Ori Berger wrote: Amos Shapira wrote: OK, So I've setup CentOS 5.2 on Xen VPS at VPSLink, compiled latest Asterisk (1.4.23) very smoothly according to the instructions at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CentOS+5+and+Asterisk+1.4.x+installation up to and including the asterisk -...vvvc and stop now. Also installed the rest of the addons. Does that include the zaptel ztdummy server required for MeetMe and MusicOnHold? I couldn't get it to work; I don't really need it either, but it would be nice to have. As I think I have mentioned before, I'm not sure how well it works under Xen. E.g. http://wiki.vpslink.com/Compiling_ztdummy_on_Xen has a considerable ammount of unneeded voodoo. The basic thing they do there is to use the internal timing intead of RTC. But do they actually have HZ set to 1000 on that system? Odd settings for such a machine. See also http://docs.tzafrir.org.il/#_kernel_configuration I would also recommend: 1. Debian :-) (As I package Asterisk for it) 2. Do consider Asterisk SVN trunk. At least if this is a home PBX. Specifically The extra timing source stuff might be of direct interest to you. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Bank Leumi site finally works from Linux
I think we should send them a really fancy letter with a few dozen signatures, saying thanks for finally fixing it. I'm not cynical. they got nags and negative rap from us all the years, they need to get appreciation too. Newspaper reporters and people who bump into FOSS zealots in Ynet talkbacks usually (understandably) see us as a bunch of complaining elitist techno-snobs. I say we should show our other side and give some kudos once in a while when someone does the RIGHT thing. (In other words, they think we are Hammas, we need to show them we are not even Fatah, maybe Hadash at worst :-) Even if it's late and partial, we can send them positive remarks for congratulating them on how far they've come instead of only (or first) complaining about what still needs to be done. So how about if a bunch of us write Leumi some thank you notes, or send them a big fancy Thank you kind of thing with 30 signatures, so they can frame and hang on their wall, and later we could get companies to get their sites corrected and we better rap in the press. We can even join hands the some computer usability SIG or ISOC, ILA or some adult computer literacy NGO that was helped by this. We should try to try and make it a bigger, more impressive gesture. Is it corny? - sure, CEOs love corny... Is it a bit kitch and looks a little out of integrity? - Could be, but the long-term benefits are effective dialogs with the next businesses that run broken sites. - Ideally, In time, such endoresment might be actually catch on, and since Hamakor won't be selling them for kickbacks, companies will actually have to fix sites to get one :-) Anyone cares to take this further? Ori Idan, are you doing any PR of this kind today? Ira. (and, as if often does, my random sig pulls out a bull's eye :-) If you are a Bank Leumi customer, then write to them and tell them that you thank them. I myself closed my account in 2001. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [WEB STANDARDS COMPLIANCE] Bituach Leumi - an Internet Explorer Holdout
2009/2/12 Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il: Today I tried to browse to the payments site of Bituach Leumi at: https://b2b.btl.gov.il/b2b/framesetlogonanonymous.asp The Enter (כניסה) button does not work for Firefox 2.0.0.19 (my browser version). In fact, the Web site rudely proclaims support only for Internet Explorer (not even beta versions). I think this Web site can qualify for the Oxymoron of the Decade. They are probably strict about browser support due to qualification testing due to security concerns, yet they chose to support a browser notorious for its security vulnerabilities. Of course, there was no contact information in the page itself. Their Webmaster/s may be having a clue and are trying to hide from the deluge of angry phone calls and E-mail messages... I found this on Google: http://www.btl.gov.il/About/contact_us/pages/default.aspx -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: how to MD5 sum a DVD without copying it.
MD5 on the device file won't work. But this works: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm On 11/02/2009 11:41, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Hi, I want to make an MD5 checksum of a DVD ROM to verify that it was burned properly. Is there a way to do this without making an ISO file from it? While I obivously have to read it, I don't want to do anything with the data other than calculate the checksum. Thanks, Geoff. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
אזהרה: נטוויזן
Well aware of Netvision's excellent reputation in Israel, I switched from Bezeq Beinleumi to Netvision when I switched my infrastructure from cables (Hot) to ADSL (Bezeq). What a terrible mistake. During the time of Bezeq's great outage on Tuesday and Wednesday, Netvision refused to check and diagnose a problem with my connection even though it was obvious from the symptoms that the problem was with the ISP, not the infrastructure. In fact, I had to go back to Bezeq Beinleumi, which connected me immediately, even giving me a temporary username and password while my official account was switched from cables to ADSL. I could surf perfectly in Bezeq Beinleumi, and could not even connect with Netvision. Still, at Netvision they insisted that the problem was with Bezeq and refused to even look into the problem. Now, when I am trying to get out of my one-year contract with Netvision because I had to sign a new one-year contract with a company that is actually interested in providing to me service, they are not releasing me from my contract. They would rather hold me prisoner as a customer who neither wants nor needs their service, then let me go. So now they loose not only me as a customer, but also any words of praise that I may have otherwise had for the company. They found it right to remove from themselves the responsibility to check my service, but do not find it right to remove my responsibility to remain with them. I must say that while Bezeq Beinleumi has and may still have a bad reputation, I have found them professional and very willing to help. They have had Linux support people on staff the two times that I called asking about this, and Netvision has promised me that a Linux tech will get back to me when he gets on duty (he apparently never did). I can only assume that the assimilation of Actcom into Bezeq Beinleumi made the difference. So when you are looking for an ISP, I suggest that you look into Bezeq Beinleumi and simply pass up on Netvision. A good reputation they may have, but they are resting on it rather than earning it day by day. That, and Bezeq Beinleumi has come so far now, with excellent Linux support and helpful techs. Just to save you some research, these are the prices for each company for one month's service (I researched this yesterday when I was looking to switch from Netvision): Netvision: 1.5 mbs: 39 NIS 2.5 mbs: 49 NIS 4.0 mbs: 79 NIS Bezeq Beinleumi: 1.5 mbs: 39 NIS 2.5 mbs: 49 NIS 4.0 mbs: 65 NIS 012: 1.5 mbs: 39 NIS 2.5 mbs: 55 NIS 4.0 mbs: 79 NIS (ADSL only, no cables for 4.0) -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: אזהרה: נטוויזן
HI Dotan I have 2 things to say: 1. Have you thought that good reputation is a matter of publication budgets? Out of all the ISPs bezeq ben leumi is the best. 2. A tip: if they don't want to disconnect you can try to freeze the account. I know 012 charges 4.9nis/month if you freeze the account. A better option is to prove them that are to blame because with the same infrastructure and different ISP, you can connect to the internet. They must provide you the service within 24 hours, otherwise you can sue them. This is a much more preferable option. On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Well aware of Netvision's excellent reputation in Israel, I switched from Bezeq Beinleumi to Netvision when I switched my infrastructure from cables (Hot) to ADSL (Bezeq). What a terrible mistake. During the time of Bezeq's great outage on Tuesday and Wednesday, Netvision refused to check and diagnose a problem with my connection even though it was obvious from the symptoms that the problem was with the ISP, not the infrastructure. In fact, I had to go back to Bezeq Beinleumi, which connected me immediately, even giving me a temporary username and password while my official account was switched from cables to ADSL. I could surf perfectly in Bezeq Beinleumi, and could not even connect with Netvision. Still, at Netvision they insisted that the problem was with Bezeq and refused to even look into the problem. Now, when I am trying to get out of my one-year contract with Netvision because I had to sign a new one-year contract with a company that is actually interested in providing to me service, they are not releasing me from my contract. They would rather hold me prisoner as a customer who neither wants nor needs their service, then let me go. So now they loose not only me as a customer, but also any words of praise that I may have otherwise had for the company. They found it right to remove from themselves the responsibility to check my service, but do not find it right to remove my responsibility to remain with them. I must say that while Bezeq Beinleumi has and may still have a bad reputation, I have found them professional and very willing to help. They have had Linux support people on staff the two times that I called asking about this, and Netvision has promised me that a Linux tech will get back to me when he gets on duty (he apparently never did). I can only assume that the assimilation of Actcom into Bezeq Beinleumi made the difference. So when you are looking for an ISP, I suggest that you look into Bezeq Beinleumi and simply pass up on Netvision. A good reputation they may have, but they are resting on it rather than earning it day by day. That, and Bezeq Beinleumi has come so far now, with excellent Linux support and helpful techs. Just to save you some research, these are the prices for each company for one month's service (I researched this yesterday when I was looking to switch from Netvision): Netvision: 1.5 mbs: 39 NIS 2.5 mbs: 49 NIS 4.0 mbs: 79 NIS Bezeq Beinleumi: 1.5 mbs: 39 NIS 2.5 mbs: 49 NIS 4.0 mbs: 65 NIS 012: 1.5 mbs: 39 NIS 2.5 mbs: 55 NIS 4.0 mbs: 79 NIS (ADSL only, no cables for 4.0) -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: אזהרה: נטוויזן
2009/2/13 sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com: HI Dotan I have 2 things to say: 1. Have you thought that good reputation is a matter of publication budgets? Out of all the ISPs bezeq ben leumi is the best. 2. A tip: if they don't want to disconnect you can try to freeze the account. I know 012 charges 4.9nis/month if you freeze the account. A better option is to prove them that are to blame because with the same infrastructure and different ISP, you can connect to the internet. They must provide you the service within 24 hours, otherwise you can sue them. This is a much more preferable option. Thanks, Sara. I do not want to sue them but as they refused to disconnect me I am writing a nice long letter telling them that I will take the matter to court if they do not disconnect me willingly. I cannot believe that they would ruin their reputation over this. If they would have just disconnected me they would not have even lost me as a customer: surely I would come crawling back after getting burned by Nezeq sometime. But now? I'll never go back to Netvision. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: אזהרה: נטוויזן
They violate the terms of service. They have to connect you immediately. They should have done conference call and see who is to blame. On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/13 sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com: HI Dotan I have 2 things to say: 1. Have you thought that good reputation is a matter of publication budgets? Out of all the ISPs bezeq ben leumi is the best. 2. A tip: if they don't want to disconnect you can try to freeze the account. I know 012 charges 4.9nis/month if you freeze the account. A better option is to prove them that are to blame because with the same infrastructure and different ISP, you can connect to the internet. They must provide you the service within 24 hours, otherwise you can sue them. This is a much more preferable option. Thanks, Sara. I do not want to sue them but as they refused to disconnect me I am writing a nice long letter telling them that I will take the matter to court if they do not disconnect me willingly. I cannot believe that they would ruin their reputation over this. If they would have just disconnected me they would not have even lost me as a customer: surely I would come crawling back after getting burned by Nezeq sometime. But now? I'll never go back to Netvision. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication
2009/2/13 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il: As I think I have mentioned before, I'm not sure how well it works under Xen. E.g. http://wiki.vpslink.com/Compiling_ztdummy_on_Xen has a considerable ammount of unneeded voodoo. The basic thing they do there is to use the internal timing intead of RTC. But do they actually have HZ set to 1000 on that system? Odd settings for such a machine. I saw somewhere that the Xen hosts provided by VPSLink already have 1000HTz clocks on them, saving a kernel recompilation. See also http://docs.tzafrir.org.il/#_kernel_configuration I would also recommend: 1. Debian :-) (As I package Asterisk for it) I used Debian for over 10 years but now I got used to CentOS (simply because it's so much easier to find hosts which support it for my work needs). 2. Do consider Asterisk SVN trunk. At least if this is a home PBX. Specifically The extra timing source stuff might be of direct interest to you. I don't know Asterisk at all so not sure I should try the latest and greatest where I'll never know whether something is broken because I did it wrong or because it's really broken. Thanks. --Amos PS - My main quest now (apart from actually getting to call through my new asterisk server) is to find a reasonably priced Israeli DID. So far they all seem to be around $US9.95 and above. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication
2009/2/13 Ori Berger linux...@orib.net: Does that include the zaptel ztdummy server required for MeetMe and MusicOnHold? I couldn't get it to work; I don't really need it either, but it would be nice to have. I compiled the zaptel package without a problem but didn't install it. Lylix.net is priced competitively with VPSlink, and have ztdummy available within their virtual machines - however, their lowest level is equivalent to VPSlink's link2 which sets you back at $15/month. I'm considering switching over there if I'd need meetme and didn't get ztdummy to work on VPSlink. How do I test this? I recommend twinkle on Linux. It has a log view that is immensely helpful in debugging, and got me much farther than Ekiga or Wengo did. Thanks. Will try that. Going to didww.com I'm not sure what should I look for - Phone to VOIP or Phone to IP-PBX? both options cost $US10 a month, I don't see an option to pick the allegedly cheaper 077 numbers. There were also 073 numbers (cellcom) that were $3/month. However, everything except 03 disappeared from DIDWW and also diamondcard.us - this doesn't look like a coincidence. Perhaps someone knows what has happened? I already have a couple of 077 DIDs but this is troubling. If anyone hears about good place to get Israeli DID's then please speak up. Is there any chance that the phone companies themselves will talk to me with reasonable prices if I approach them directly? Which department would that be? Having played with Asterisk a little, and having set up hosting and stuff - I'd say that there are services that will be pricewise competitive, such as Jajah, Skype, and OlehPhone. Each one has a different set of restrictions on Jajah is getting more and more expensive to use for us. Skypeout looks OK on price up to a point. Olephone, if that's that one I remember from a while ago, looked too expensive for my needs. the flexibility that an asterisk server provides, but they take away all the headaches. If you're only looking to save money, this is probably NOT the best option when you also factor in the cost of your time, paid or leisure. As much as I'm busy, I see this not just as a way to cut costs but also as an investment since I will be called to setup company-wide voip at some stage when we get around to it (actually be in charge with, but it's good to know what your workers are up to). Cheers, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
sorting mail over imap?
Hello, I'm looking at a way to filter e-mails on our Exchange 2003 server using a linux box as an IMAP client. I have it now working on my Ubuntu desktop using Claws mail but it means I have to keep it running while I'm away which is wasteful (I shut down my desktop overnight and weekends). Looking around for solutions I learned: 1. My memory about procmail not being suitable is still correct - Procmail can only store to local files. 2. The closest I found was http://markmail.org/message/esxmz6bsejt6bt6y, which mentions Sickle http://www.codebunny.org/coding/sickle/ which is almost 4 years old and depends on perl modules I can't find in CPAN. But Sickle's idea (using Perl IMAP modules to filter messages) seems to be right. What I envision is to run a script on one of our main operations servers which are always on, which reads message headers over IMAP from the Exchange server, filters them and moves them to other IMAP folders. Just like Claws does for me already but without the need for a GUI/display etc. Is there something more baked or should I work from scratch? Thanks, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: how to MD5 sum a DVD without copying it.
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:47:30PM +0200, Michael Vasiliev wrote: MD5 on the device file won't work. But this works: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm Thanks, I'll look at it. Well, it sort of worked. It pointed out any read errors, but it did give me a different MD5 sum. So I was able to tell that the copies I burned were identical. but not that they matched the original. For those that don't know, some CD and DVD drives have trouble writting a few specific bit patterns. Look up weak sectors for more information. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: אזהרה: נטוויזן
Dontan, I agree with you, even though I wasn't able to switch our ATM from Barak/Netvision to Bezeq Int as you did. Their support on Tuesday and Wednesday to their business customers was simply outrageous or non-existing. Half the day they asked me for my username and password, which of course don't exist for ATM connection, the second half they asked me to restart my modem/router/windows machine as it was a problem with my side. I didn't really mind them (if they would have but they didn't) tell me that it was a Infrastructure problem and was being handled by Bezeq and would call me back to inform me of the status - but the fact that they kept blaming me and my equipment - transferring me from one person to another each having less skills in understanding the problem or even what equipment I have - left me with very bad taste. I have decided therefore to move Bezeq Int, as it can't get any worse, and I am sure it will be better - as I have 3 servers hosted at their farm and one at Barak and even for that the support is better, for example Bezeq Int sends you regular emails with their planned outages, issues that have occurred - like bandwidth issues, etc - while Barak/Netvision has sent none of this in the past 3 years of my equipment being served there. While, our up time is not 3 years due to power failures at their site. Of course these are my experience and my opinions. On Friday 13 February 2009 00:32:39 Dotan Cohen wrote: Well aware of Netvision's excellent reputation in Israel, I switched from Bezeq Beinleumi to Netvision when I switched my infrastructure from cables (Hot) to ADSL (Bezeq). What a terrible mistake. During the time of Bezeq's great outage on Tuesday and Wednesday, Netvision refused to check and diagnose a problem with my connection even though it was obvious from the symptoms that the problem was with the ISP, not the infrastructure. In fact, I had to go back to Bezeq Beinleumi, which connected me immediately, even giving me a temporary username and password while my official account was switched from cables to ADSL. I could surf perfectly in Bezeq Beinleumi, and could not even connect with Netvision. Still, at Netvision they insisted that the problem was with Bezeq and refused to even look into the problem. Now, when I am trying to get out of my one-year contract with Netvision because I had to sign a new one-year contract with a company that is actually interested in providing to me service, they are not releasing me from my contract. They would rather hold me prisoner as a customer who neither wants nor needs their service, then let me go. So now they loose not only me as a customer, but also any words of praise that I may have otherwise had for the company. They found it right to remove from themselves the responsibility to check my service, but do not find it right to remove my responsibility to remain with them. I must say that while Bezeq Beinleumi has and may still have a bad reputation, I have found them professional and very willing to help. They have had Linux support people on staff the two times that I called asking about this, and Netvision has promised me that a Linux tech will get back to me when he gets on duty (he apparently never did). I can only assume that the assimilation of Actcom into Bezeq Beinleumi made the difference. So when you are looking for an ISP, I suggest that you look into Bezeq Beinleumi and simply pass up on Netvision. A good reputation they may have, but they are resting on it rather than earning it day by day. That, and Bezeq Beinleumi has come so far now, with excellent Linux support and helpful techs. Just to save you some research, these are the prices for each company for one month's service (I researched this yesterday when I was looking to switch from Netvision): Netvision: 1.5 mbs: 39 NIS 2.5 mbs: 49 NIS 4.0 mbs: 79 NIS Bezeq Beinleumi: 1.5 mbs: 39 NIS 2.5 mbs: 49 NIS 4.0 mbs: 65 NIS 012: 1.5 mbs: 39 NIS 2.5 mbs: 55 NIS 4.0 mbs: 79 NIS (ADSL only, no cables for 4.0) -- Noam Rathaus CTO no...@beyondsecurity.com http://www.beyondsecurity.com Know that you are safe. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: sorting mail over imap?
Amos, Are you into programing? If so, IMAP::Client for perl works pretty well (though there are occasional bugs :) ). I can give you a perl script I use for handling incoming requests from users (via email) and places them into a database. You can probably modify it to do whatever you want. On Friday 13 February 2009 05:08:53 Amos Shapira wrote: Hello, I'm looking at a way to filter e-mails on our Exchange 2003 server using a linux box as an IMAP client. I have it now working on my Ubuntu desktop using Claws mail but it means I have to keep it running while I'm away which is wasteful (I shut down my desktop overnight and weekends). Looking around for solutions I learned: 1. My memory about procmail not being suitable is still correct - Procmail can only store to local files. 2. The closest I found was http://markmail.org/message/esxmz6bsejt6bt6y, which mentions Sickle http://www.codebunny.org/coding/sickle/ which is almost 4 years old and depends on perl modules I can't find in CPAN. But Sickle's idea (using Perl IMAP modules to filter messages) seems to be right. What I envision is to run a script on one of our main operations servers which are always on, which reads message headers over IMAP from the Exchange server, filters them and moves them to other IMAP folders. Just like Claws does for me already but without the need for a GUI/display etc. Is there something more baked or should I work from scratch? Thanks, --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Noam Rathaus CTO no...@beyondsecurity.com http://www.beyondsecurity.com Know that you are safe. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [WEB STANDARDS COMPLIANCE] Bituach Leumi - an Internet Explorer Holdout
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 22:50 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2009/2/12 Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il: Today I tried to browse to the payments site of Bituach Leumi at: https://b2b.btl.gov.il/b2b/framesetlogonanonymous.asp The Enter (כניסה) button does not work for Firefox 2.0.0.19 (my browser version). In fact, the Web site rudely proclaims support only for Internet Explorer (not even beta versions). [... snipped ...] I found this on Google: http://www.btl.gov.il/About/contact_us/pages/default.aspx Thanks, I was able to fill the feedback form and finally get the feedback that it was submitted. If it was actually submitted and will be acted upon, that's different matter altogether... --- Omer -- MS-Windows is the Pal-Kal of the PC world. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: אזהרה: נטוויזן
They are not the only ones who sometimes play games. About 3 years ago I upgraded ADSL with Bezeq from 750 to 1.5. At least I thought that I did; well after checking the download speed I found that they hadn't but charged me for the 1.5 MB rate. As soon as I contact 166 they checked and found that yes I was right; I got a credit out of them and the following year squeezed them a little harder for a good rate when upgrading to 2.5 MB. You can check your Download and Upload speeds very easily at:http://www.speedtest.net/index.php Left click on the yellow pyramid to do this and watch the man send and receive; you will see two clocks showing what is happening. It pays to do this occasionally it wakes up the server.Moshehttp://moshe.lee.co.il --- On Fri, 13/2/09, sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com wrote: From: sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com Subject: Re: אזהרה: נטוויזן To: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com Cc: linux-il. linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Date: Friday, 13 February, 2009, 1:17 AM They violate the terms of service. They have to connect you immediately. They should have done conference call and see who is to blame. On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/13 sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com: HI Dotan I have 2 things to say: 1. Have you thought that good reputation is a matter of publication budgets? Out of all the ISPs bezeq ben leumi is the best. 2. A tip: if they don't want to disconnect you can try to freeze the account. I know 012 charges 4.9nis/month if you freeze the account. A better option is to prove them that are to blame because with the same infrastructure and different ISP, you can connect to the internet. They must provide you the service within 24 hours, otherwise you can sue them. This is a much more preferable option. Thanks, Sara. I do not want to sue them but as they refused to disconnect me I am writing a nice long letter telling them that I will take the matter to court if they do not disconnect me willingly. I cannot believe that they would ruin their reputation over this. If they would have just disconnected me they would not have even lost me as a customer: surely I would come crawling back after getting burned by Nezeq sometime. But now? I'll never go back to Netvision. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il