Re: Caldera List
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Kurt Wall wrote: > So, what's the reaction on the Caldera list to this latest piece > of brilliance? I do not think Caldera is too much worry about it. I remember the Caldera mail list with 100 - 150 messages a day, nowdays you can get one or two messages each one or two days. :( Just a couple of comments on the list, one to tell about unsubscribing Really sad ¡¡¡ I still have too systems working with Caldera Openlinux 3.1.1 and one with Openlinux 3.1 but I am testing some other distros: Suse and debian (libranet). Best regards, -- Javi, _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.europa3.com/users/fjherna/ \_(X)_(_)_(X)_/ http://www.valux.org/ !___!___!_Valencia(Spain) === Advancement in position. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Problem installing Galeon
Hi everyone: Would someone please help me figure this out: I just tried to upgrade to galeon-1.2.8-7.x_8.0.i386 but realized that I first had to upgrade to mozilla-1.3b-0_gtk2_xft.i386. Well, I did that, too. However, when I try to upgrade galeon, I get this message: "libgtksuperwin.so is needed by galeon-1.2.8-7.x_8.0". Sounds strange to me, because libgtksuperwin happens to be sitting right in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3b. Any solution? TIA -- Iraj Medifar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
On Sunday 09 March 2003 10:40 pm, someone claiming to be Jerry McBride wrote: > On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 17:43:12 -0800 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So if you were to run "glxinfo" it lists that dri=yes ? > > and what kind of fps are you getting with "glxgears -time" ? > > Here's what I see for a Radeon 8500le 64meg: > > OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20020827 AGP 4x x86/MMX/3DNow!/SSE > TCL > > And it gives me: 11058 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2211.400 FPS wow. -- RedHat Psyche 8.0, stock kernel, KDE 3.1.CVS, Xfree86 4.2.1 12:55am up 1 day, 8:16, 3 users, load average: 0.34, 0.33, 0.20 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
On Sunday 09 March 2003 8:45 pm, someone claiming to be Kurt Wall wrote: > Feigning erudition, Ted Ozolins wrote: > % Kurt Wall wrote: > % > % > > % >Naturally, if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces. It's always > % >Just Worked (c) here. With the i810, the manual page says you only get > % >harware-accelerated 3D via DRI at 16bpp color. I'm unclear, however, > % >if you get DRI at other depths (well, 24bpp) if you don't care about > % >hardware-accelerated 3D -- I've got Matrox and NVIDIA cards here, so > % >I have no problems in that regard. > % > > % >Kurt > % > > % > > % So if you were to run "glxinfo" it lists that dri=yes ? > % and what kind of fps are you getting with "glxgears -time" ? > > $ glxinfo | egrep -i dri > OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI G400 20020221 AGP 2x x86/MMX/SSE > $ glxgears -time > 1057 frames in 5.0 seconds = 211.400 FPS > 1132 frames in 5.0 seconds = 226.400 FPS > 1141 frames in 5.0 seconds = 228.200 FPS > 1138 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.600 FPS > ^C > > Kurt $ glxinfo | egrep -i dri OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI G400 20010622 AGP 1x x86/MMX/3DNow! $ glxgears -time 2308 frames in 5.0 seconds = 461.600 FPS 3022 frames in 5.0 seconds = 604.400 FPS 3189 frames in 5.0 seconds = 637.800 FPS 3177 frames in 5.0 seconds = 635.400 FPS 3185 frames in 5.0 seconds = 637.000 FPS Matrox G400, Duron 1GHz, Xfree86 4.2.1 Tim -- RedHat Psyche 8.0, stock kernel, KDE 3.1.CVS, Xfree86 4.2.1 12:50am up 1 day, 8:11, 2 users, load average: 0.15, 0.14, 0.09 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Why can't I type anything into Mozilla when I run it on aremoteX server
On Sunday 09 March 2003 8:25 pm, someone claiming to be James McDonald wrote: > Net Llama! wrote: > > THis is definitely something wonky with your 'X-Deep32'. I run mozilla > > forwarded over X to other Linux boxes all the time, and it works just > > fine. > > Yeah you were right it was the X-Deep32 X server. I started cygwins XWin > -ac and I can now type into mozilla. > FWIW, I run X-Win32 at work (to connect from Win2K to linux), http://www.starnet.com/ Cygwin seemed to be more trouble than it was worth and I gave up on that before going to VNC. I abandoned VNC for X-Win32 a couple months ago, still running the evaluation version and it's been great, YMMV... Regards, Tm -- RedHat Psyche 8.0, stock kernel, KDE 3.1.CVS, Xfree86 4.2.1 12:45am up 1 day, 8:06, 2 users, load average: 0.03, 0.12, 0.08 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 17:43:12 -0800 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So if you were to run "glxinfo" it lists that dri=yes ? > and what kind of fps are you getting with "glxgears -time" ? > Here's what I see for a Radeon 8500le 64meg: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20020827 AGP 4x x86/MMX/3DNow!/SSE TCL And it gives me: 11058 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2211.400 FPS -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 10:37pm up 61 days, 4:11, 4 users, load average: 0.14, 0.08, 0.02 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good
How do I tell what the package is. All this stuff happens automatically and I know nothing about debian. Where on the computer would I find the package name? Joel > I'm curious about the packaging of SO you downloaded from the > warehouse. Was it a tar? > > -- > Leon A. Goldstein > ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good
Joel Hammer wrote: I am not sure what I am getting for my money, but on the upside: 1. I couldn't download gnucash with synaptic or get-apt, but it came in nicely with the warehouse. 2. Staroffice wasn't available with synaptic but it was with the warehouse. 3. When you install from the warehouse, you get a nice icon on the desktop without any hassle. There are lots of Gnucash deb's. Take a look at www.debian.org. Is synaptic/apt-get configured for sources? I'm not surprised you couldn't install StarOffice with synaptic, since it is not a deb package. I'm curious about the packaging of SO you downloaded from the warehouse. Was it a tar? -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera WS 3.1.1 Linux System LI D850MVL ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ntp server: mulitiple interfaces
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 07:39:59PM -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote: .. >> That's fine for some things, but consider two directories that >> are very similar, and you want to find which files are in dir2 >> that aren't in dir1. >> >> cd dir1 >> find . -type f | sort > /tmp/list1 >> cd dir2 >> find . -type f | sort > /tmp/list2 >> comm -13 /tmp/list1 /tmp/list2 > /tmp/list3 >> >> Now /tmp/list3 has a list of all files in dir2 that aren't in dir1. >> Perhaps you want to copy all the files from dir2 that aren't in >> dir1, now you can run: >> >> cpio -pdumv dir1 < /tmp/list3 >> >> Bill > >Would rsync be an easier way to do this? Use the 'n' option first to see >what files would be copied... then without the 'n' option to do the >copying That depends on what you're doing. I certainly use rsync extensively, but my main point was to demonstrate one place where ``comm'' can be very useful. Unlike ``diff'', comm simply produces lists of files which can then be used for a variety of things. ``There's more than one way to do it'' doesn't only apply to perl. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ "A man full of faith is simply one who has lost (or never had) the capacity for clear and realistic thought. He is not a mere ass; he is actually ill. Worse, he is incurable." H.L. Mencken ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
Feigning erudition, Ted Ozolins wrote: % Kurt Wall wrote: % % > % >Naturally, if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces. It's always % >Just Worked (c) here. With the i810, the manual page says you only get % >harware-accelerated 3D via DRI at 16bpp color. I'm unclear, however, % >if you get DRI at other depths (well, 24bpp) if you don't care about % >hardware-accelerated 3D -- I've got Matrox and NVIDIA cards here, so % >I have no problems in that regard. % > % >Kurt % > % > % So if you were to run "glxinfo" it lists that dri=yes ? % and what kind of fps are you getting with "glxgears -time" ? $ glxinfo | egrep -i dri OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI G400 20020221 AGP 2x x86/MMX/SSE $ glxgears -time 1057 frames in 5.0 seconds = 211.400 FPS 1132 frames in 5.0 seconds = 226.400 FPS 1141 frames in 5.0 seconds = 228.200 FPS 1138 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.600 FPS ^C Kurt -- Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #52: Q: What is your name? A: Ernestine McDowell. Q: And what is your marital status? A: Fair. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: parted failure on SUSE 8.1
Feigning erudition, edj wrote: % On Sunday 09 March 2003 06:09 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: [...] % > Okay, well, you don't really have libuuid installed, then, becuase % > you need the headers for it. The Qt stuff is worthless in this % > respect, and something that lives only in your kernel sources % > shouldn't be used either. If you like, I have a statically-linked % > parted binary tarball located on % > ftp.kurtwerks.com:/pub/parted-bin-1.6.5.tar.gz that you're welcome to % > use. Because it is statically-linked, parted will run even if the % > proper libraries are not already installed. % % Thanks. I didn't know to look for uuid.h This time I installed % e2fsprogs with "make install-libs". uuid.h now lives happily in % /usr/include/uuid/ and parted doesn't choke on a reiser system. That's the ticket. As a rule, you usually can't compile things without header files. Autoconf could do a better job of issuing error messages that tell you what it is *really* looking for when it says it can't find something. But, at least you go it worked out. % Still, SUSE should have installed a parted and other needed stuff which % would read a fs it uses by default.Thanks again. Agreed. Kurt -- U: There's a U -- a Unicorn! Run right up and rub its horn. Look at all those points you're losing! UMBER HULKS are so confusing. -- The Roguelet's ABC ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
Kurt Wall wrote: Naturally, if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces. It's always Just Worked (c) here. With the i810, the manual page says you only get harware-accelerated 3D via DRI at 16bpp color. I'm unclear, however, if you get DRI at other depths (well, 24bpp) if you don't care about hardware-accelerated 3D -- I've got Matrox and NVIDIA cards here, so I have no problems in that regard. Kurt So if you were to run "glxinfo" it lists that dri=yes ? and what kind of fps are you getting with "glxgears -time" ? -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Why can't I type anything into Mozilla when I run it on aremoteX server
Net Llama! wrote: THis is definitely something wonky with your 'X-Deep32'. I run mozilla forwarded over X to other Linux boxes all the time, and it works just fine. Yeah you were right it was the X-Deep32 X server. I started cygwins XWin -ac and I can now type into mozilla. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: parted failure on SUSE 8.1
On Sunday 09 March 2003 06:09 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Feigning erudition, edj wrote: > % On Sunday 09 March 2003 04:30 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > % > Feigning erudition, edj wrote: > % > > % > I'm going to move away from SUSE, but before I do that I must > % > resize partitions. SUSE provides parted 1.6.3; it doesn't seem > to % > work with reiserfs. The latest is 1.6.5, which acc/to GNU's > site, % > will work with reiser if progsreiserfs is installed. Did > that. % > But when I tried to configure parted, it failed - couldn't > find % > libuuid. I have that, as e2fsprogs is installed. I went > through % > the documentation, configure --help, etc. and couldn't > find how to % > pass the location to configure. I'm probably missing > something very % > obvious here. Why would SUSE provide a parted > which won't read the % > default fs? Also, SUSE doesn't% seem to > provide an updated parted, % > and some of that YAST stuff depends > on it. I hope the newer % > parted, installed with checkinstall, > won't break anything. But % > who knows?? > % > > % > Any advice appreciated. Thanks. > % > > % > What is the output of ``locate libuuid''? Where is uuid.h on your > % > system? > % > > % > Kurt > % > % [Sun Mar 09] edj:~$ locate libuuid > % /lib/libuuid.so.1 > % /lib/libuuid.so.1.2 > % > % [Sun Mar 09] edj:~$ locate uuid.h > % /usr/lib/qt-3.1.1/include/quuid.h > % /usr/src/linux-2.4.19.SuSE/include/linux/xfs_support/uuid.h > > Okay, well, you don't really have libuuid installed, then, becuase > you need the headers for it. The Qt stuff is worthless in this > respect, and something that lives only in your kernel sources > shouldn't be used either. If you like, I have a statically-linked > parted binary tarball located on > ftp.kurtwerks.com:/pub/parted-bin-1.6.5.tar.gz that you're welcome to > use. Because it is statically-linked, parted will run even if the > proper libraries are not already installed. > > Kurt Thanks. I didn't know to look for uuid.h This time I installed e2fsprogs with "make install-libs". uuid.h now lives happily in /usr/include/uuid/ and parted doesn't choke on a reiser system. Still, SUSE should have installed a parted and other needed stuff which would read a fs it uses by default.Thanks again. -- Ed Jabbour ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good
Well I joined the warehouse. I am not sure what I am getting for my money, but on the upside: 1. I couldn't download gnucash with synaptic or get-apt, but it came in nicely with the warehouse. 2. Staroffice wasn't available with synaptic but it was with the warehouse. 3. When you install from the warehouse, you get a nice icon on the desktop without any hassle. Aside from that, I am not too impressed. You are given the impression that the software in the warehouse has been tested for lindows, but I am being to think that they don't test this software on their own stuff. Abiword gave me the unix font error and Doom froze my computer and corrupted my ext2 partition on the hd I added to this machine (couldn't repair it with fsck, it's gone). I really wanted to run xine, but xine from synaptic froze my computer and the x server wouldn't restart again, so I had to reinstall lindows. I was thinking that xine from the warehouse would be safe, but, now I doubt it. So, although I am enthused over the computer and lindows at the price, I think the warehouse needs to be what it says it is to be worth the money they are charging for it . Joel On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 07:14:08AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: > > I tried the software junior shelf. Only a few titles. Prowrite is koffice's > word processor, which loaded no problem. (version 1.1.1). Digikam loaded > fine > snipped... > I'll likely spend $99 and join the warehouse, just to save myself some > effort and see what they really have to offer. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ntp server: mulitiple interfaces
On Sunday 09 March 2003 18:52 pm, Bill Campbell wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 06:02:13PM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: > >On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:15:42 -0800 > > > >Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 04:42:13PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: > >> >Yes, I see ntp listening on both interfaces, too. I adjusted my > >> >firewall to allow udp and tcp packets from my intranet client, > >> > but, no avail. Well, I'll keep poking at it. > >> > > >> >Thanks for this useful command, lsof. > >> > >> It's amazing how many useful commands are on Linux and Unix > >> systems. > >> > >> How many on the list use ``comm''? > > > >not in years. I prefer diff -u, gives me a better perspective. To > > each his own. > > That's fine for some things, but consider two directories that > are very similar, and you want to find which files are in dir2 > that aren't in dir1. > > cd dir1 > find . -type f | sort > /tmp/list1 > cd dir2 > find . -type f | sort > /tmp/list2 > comm -13 /tmp/list1 /tmp/list2 > /tmp/list3 > > Now /tmp/list3 has a list of all files in dir2 that aren't in dir1. > Perhaps you want to copy all the files from dir2 that aren't in > dir1, now you can run: > > cpio -pdumv dir1 < /tmp/list3 > > Bill Would rsync be an easier way to do this? Use the 'n' option first to see what files would be copied... then without the 'n' option to do the copying Something like: rsync -avrn /pathto/dir1/ /pathto/dir2/ Then remove the 'n' But whatever works. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 03/09/03 19:36 + ++ "If a turtle doesn't have a shell, is he homeless or naked?" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What's after OpenLinux?
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:29:25 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 15:20:59 -0700 > Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm surprised that no one has done it yet. It would not be a matter of > > rocket science to distribute a gentoo based distribution from one or > > more (different architecture) base home system. Creating binary update > > packages and/or complete replacement tarballs for distribution on CD > > would be a relatively trivial undertaking. Binary update CDs could > > include a script to tailor anything desired. The complete replacement > > CDs would only require relatively trivial modifications to the gentoo > > Livecd. > > I know that the binary update part of Gentoo would be OK. The problem is > the initial install. It is not something one would want to do on a regular > basis to many systems. It is this that I think is the major stumbling > block for production use. > Yes, I was not clear enough. What I was suggesting was to install gentoo once (per machine image, P3, Athlon, etc.) on your base system(s) and then to make a tarball of those systems to distribute to customers on CD. You would then keep the mother system(s) up to date and distribute new CDs at whatever interval you deem appropriate. Alternatively, for updates you could distribute the updates as binary ebuilds. -- Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ntp server: mulitiple interfaces
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 06:02:13PM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: >On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:15:42 -0800 >Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 04:42:13PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: >> >Yes, I see ntp listening on both interfaces, too. I adjusted my >> >firewall to allow udp and tcp packets from my intranet client, but, >> >no avail. Well, I'll keep poking at it. >> > >> >Thanks for this useful command, lsof. >> >> It's amazing how many useful commands are on Linux and Unix systems. >> >> How many on the list use ``comm''? > >not in years. I prefer diff -u, gives me a better perspective. To each >his own. That's fine for some things, but consider two directories that are very similar, and you want to find which files are in dir2 that aren't in dir1. cd dir1 find . -type f | sort > /tmp/list1 cd dir2 find . -type f | sort > /tmp/list2 comm -13 /tmp/list1 /tmp/list2 > /tmp/list3 Now /tmp/list3 has a list of all files in dir2 that aren't in dir1. Perhaps you want to copy all the files from dir2 that aren't in dir1, now you can run: cpio -pdumv dir1 < /tmp/list3 Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Guns are no more responsible for killing people than the spoon is responsible for making Rosie O'Donnell fat.'' ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ntp server: mulitiple interfaces
I think I have solved the problem but as usual I am not sure what it was. There were three anomalies: 1. The output of peer with ntpq had no "tattletails" by the names of the servers. eg: remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == hammer2.jhammer tock.usno.navy. 2 u 38 64 3770.871 -68.400 9.995 This is supposed to mean that the server is not being used. 2. When I ran "ntpdate", I got no available servers. Running "ntpdate hammer2" gave me a time and an offset, but it wouldn't synchronize. 3. When I ran ntpdate localclient, I got connection refused. Well, to make a long story short, I removed the firewall on the local client, opened up an explicit hole in the firewall on the server, changed the client's timezone from West Coast to East Coast, and started up ntpd on the localclient (yes, I had turned it off). Now, nptq gives : remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == *hammer2.jhammer tock.usno.navy. 2 u 24 64 3770.865 -57.682 5.495 So, things seem to be working. Joel On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 11:16:18AM -0800, Bill Campbell wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 11:57:29AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: > >I have xntp set up on a gateway box and it synchronizes well with some > >network time servers. I want to use this box to synchronize my home network. > > > >I can't get my other boxes to see the time server daemon on the gateway > >box. This could be explained if the daemon (xntp) was only listening > >to one of the two NIC's in the gateway. Using nmap, I don't see any open > >port 123, so, this is possible, I suppose. I have not found any > >configuration item which tells the daemon which NIC to listen to. > > What does ``lsof -n -i | grep ntp'' show? I see xntpd listening on all > interfaces on one of our dual homed servers. > > Bill > -- > INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC > UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way > FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 > URL: http://www.celestial.com/ > > There's no trick to being a humorist when you have the whole government > working for you. > -- Will Rogers > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: parted failure on SUSE 8.1
Feigning erudition, edj wrote: % On Sunday 09 March 2003 04:30 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: % > Feigning erudition, edj wrote: % > % > I'm going to move away from SUSE, but before I do that I must % > resize partitions. SUSE provides parted 1.6.3; it doesn't seem to % > work with reiserfs. The latest is 1.6.5, which acc/to GNU's site, % > will work with reiser if progsreiserfs is installed. Did that. % > But when I tried to configure parted, it failed - couldn't find % > libuuid. I have that, as e2fsprogs is installed. I went through % > the documentation, configure --help, etc. and couldn't find how to % > pass the location to configure. I'm probably missing something very % > obvious here. Why would SUSE provide a parted which won't read the % > default fs? Also, SUSE doesn't% seem to provide an updated parted, % > and some of that YAST stuff depends on it. I hope the newer % > parted, installed with checkinstall, won't break anything. But % > who knows?? % > % > Any advice appreciated. Thanks. % > % > What is the output of ``locate libuuid''? Where is uuid.h on your % > system? % > % > Kurt % % [Sun Mar 09] edj:~$ locate libuuid % /lib/libuuid.so.1 % /lib/libuuid.so.1.2 % % [Sun Mar 09] edj:~$ locate uuid.h % /usr/lib/qt-3.1.1/include/quuid.h % /usr/src/linux-2.4.19.SuSE/include/linux/xfs_support/uuid.h Okay, well, you don't really have libuuid installed, then, becuase you need the headers for it. The Qt stuff is worthless in this respect, and something that lives only in your kernel sources shouldn't be used either. If you like, I have a statically-linked parted binary tarball located on ftp.kurtwerks.com:/pub/parted-bin-1.6.5.tar.gz that you're welcome to use. Because it is statically-linked, parted will run even if the proper libraries are not already installed. Kurt -- Q: How many IBM CPU's does it take to execute a job? A: Four; three to hold it down, and one to rip its head off. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ntp server: mulitiple interfaces
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:15:42 -0800 Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 04:42:13PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: > >Yes, I see ntp listening on both interfaces, too. I adjusted my > >firewall to allow udp and tcp packets from my intranet client, but, > >no avail. Well, I'll keep poking at it. > > > >Thanks for this useful command, lsof. > > It's amazing how many useful commands are on Linux and Unix systems. > > How many on the list use ``comm''? not in years. I prefer diff -u, gives me a better perspective. To each his own. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: parted failure on SUSE 8.1
On Sunday 09 March 2003 04:30 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Feigning erudition, edj wrote: > > I'm going to move away from SUSE, but before I do that I must > resize partitions. SUSE provides parted 1.6.3; it doesn't seem to > work with reiserfs. The latest is 1.6.5, which acc/to GNU's site, > will work with reiser if progsreiserfs is installed. Did that. > But when I tried to configure parted, it failed - couldn't find > libuuid. I have that, as e2fsprogs is installed. I went through > the documentation, configure --help, etc. and couldn't find how to > pass the location to configure. I'm probably missing something very > obvious here. Why would SUSE provide a parted which won't read the > default fs? Also, SUSE doesn't% seem to provide an updated parted, > and some of that YAST stuff depends on it. I hope the newer > parted, installed with checkinstall, won't break anything. But > who knows?? > > Any advice appreciated. Thanks. > > What is the output of ``locate libuuid''? Where is uuid.h on your > system? > > Kurt [Sun Mar 09] edj:~$ locate libuuid /lib/libuuid.so.1 /lib/libuuid.so.1.2 [Sun Mar 09] edj:~$ locate uuid.h /usr/lib/qt-3.1.1/include/quuid.h /usr/src/linux-2.4.19.SuSE/include/linux/xfs_support/uuid.h -- Ed Jabbour ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fw: [KOMPANY-ANNOUNCE] SCO/Caldera support
Here's a company that won't support SCO. Begin forwarded message: Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 14:25:39 -0800 From: Shawn Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [KOMPANY-ANNOUNCE] SCO/Caldera support My first real try at Linux was Caldera 1.2, and i really liked it. Later Caldera raised the bar with their Lizard installer, it was a major leap forward in Linux ease of use. Then Caldera went public, and started going a bit loopy with various acquisitions, in particular the acquisition of SCO, which is now the name of the company. A few days ago SCO filed a $1 BILLION dollar lawsuit against IBM, the basis for which is essentially this: Linux could not have made so much progress so quickly unless IBM had used their knowledge of Unix through their licensed AIX, to do it. You can read a short summary story at http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/03/07/1728239.shtml?tid=3 Now as some have opined, it would appear a ploy on SCO's part to get IBM to just purchase them since their market cap is only $22 Million, far less than their lawsuit. In any case, we, like many, find this behavior despicable on SCO's part and will not support them in any way any more. It's not like SCO/Caldera was a player any more on the desktop, their last release was about 18 months ago in this market. Regards, Shawn Gordon President theKompany.com www.thekompany.com 949-713-3276 ___ http://www.thekompany.com/mailman/listinfo/announce -- Powered by GENTOO LINUX ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ntp server: mulitiple interfaces
Feigning erudition, Bill Campbell wrote: % On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 04:42:13PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: % >Yes, I see ntp listening on both interfaces, too. I adjusted my firewall to % >allow udp and tcp packets from my intranet client, but, no avail. Well, I'll % >keep poking at it. % > % >Thanks for this useful command, lsof. % % It's amazing how many useful commands are on Linux and Unix systems. % % How many on the list use ``comm''? Not in a long time. I use the textutils stuff, though, *all* the time at work. Kurt -- "I'd love to go out with you, but I'm having all my plants neutered." ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera Sues IBM
Feigning erudition, Coppernix wrote: % Hi, % I think that all of you forget the Monterrey project. I know about Project Monterey. % Who was winner in this project and who was looser... SCO, presumably. % May be am I wrong ? SCO will have a hard time explaining why they waited over 4 years to decide IBM left them at the altar. SCO will have an even harder time demonstrating that major advances in Linux performance and architecture that happened *before* IBM got involved were the result of IBM disclosing proprietary knowledge. For example, much of the original IA-32 SMP work was done by Alan Cox, on a machine that Caldera gave him: "He is also the author of the original Linux SMP code, which was sponsored by Caldera Inc." (http://www.dascon.de/IN-BT97/CVs/cv_acox.html). Kurt -- Murphy's Law of Research: Enough research will tend to support your theory. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ntp server: mulitiple interfaces
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 04:42:13PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: >Yes, I see ntp listening on both interfaces, too. I adjusted my firewall to >allow udp and tcp packets from my intranet client, but, no avail. Well, I'll >keep poking at it. > >Thanks for this useful command, lsof. It's amazing how many useful commands are on Linux and Unix systems. How many on the list use ``comm''? Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Liberals love to say things like, 'We're just asking everyone to pay their fair share.' But government is not about asking. It is about telling. The difference is fundamental. It is the difference between making love and being raped, between working for a living and being a slave.'' Dr. Thomas Sowell, Forbes, July 1994 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera Sues IBM
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:41:29 +0100 (CET) Coppernix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I think that all of you forget the Monterrey project. > Who was winner in this project and who was looser... > May be am I wrong ? SCO was the looser big time. As I wrote earlier. Not that I agree with SCO suing IBM over this. It seems to be too much too late. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ntp server: mulitiple interfaces
Yes, I see ntp listening on both interfaces, too. I adjusted my firewall to allow udp and tcp packets from my intranet client, but, no avail. Well, I'll keep poking at it. Thanks for this useful command, lsof. Joel Iot aciSOn Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 11:16:18AM -0800, Bill Campbell wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 11:57:29AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: > >I have xntp set up on a gateway box and it synchronizes well with some > >network time servers. I want to use this box to synchronize my home network. > > > >I can't get my other boxes to see the time server daemon on the gateway > >box. This could be explained if the daemon (xntp) was only listening > >to one of the two NIC's in the gateway. Using nmap, I don't see any open > >port 123, so, this is possible, I suppose. I have not found any > >configuration item which tells the daemon which NIC to listen to. > > What does ``lsof -n -i | grep ntp'' show? I see xntpd listening on all > interfaces on one of our dual homed servers. > > Bill > -- > INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC > UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way > FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 > URL: http://www.celestial.com/ > > There's no trick to being a humorist when you have the whole government > working for you. > -- Will Rogers > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera Sues IBM
Hi, I think that all of you forget the Monterrey project. Who was winner in this project and who was looser... May be am I wrong ? Patrick --- Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > On Friday 07 March 2003 22:46, Richard Thompson > wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 04:16, Jerry McBride wrote: > > > On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:22:44 -0500 Kurt Wall > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Bastards. I'm going to throw away every piece > of Caldera software I > > > > own. > > > > > > I'm not happy either, Kurt... but if you happen > to have a retail > > > OpenLinux 3.1.1 package... toss it my way > pleaese. > > > > Or, if, just for arguements sake, 1000 people were > all to send SCO back > > all the Caldera software they had purchased over > the years, each distro > > packed seperately in the largest USPO legal box > they could fine, and all > > 1000 people, just for the sake of arguement, chose > to do this on the > > same day ... and if, again simply for the sake of > arguement, another > > 1000 people were to all return their ISO's as > email attachments, and all > > did so on the same day, and ... oh, nevermind, > just a thought. > > The feather weights would just sell the software and > their lawyers would sue > the thousand for $1 billionfor harassment and > redtraint of trade. > ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: parted failure on SUSE 8.1
Feigning erudition, edj wrote: % % I'm going to move away from SUSE, but before I do that I must resize % partitions. SUSE provides parted 1.6.3; it doesn't seem to work with % reiserfs. The latest is 1.6.5, which acc/to GNU's site, will work with % reiser if progsreiserfs is installed. Did that. But when I tried to % configure parted, it failed - couldn't find libuuid. I have that, as % e2fsprogs is installed. I went through the documentation, configure % --help, etc. and couldn't find how to pass the location to configure. % I'm probably missing something very obvious here. Why would SUSE % provide a parted which won't read the default fs? Also, SUSE doesn't % seem to provide an updated parted, and some of that YAST stuff depends % on it. I hope the newer parted, installed with checkinstall, won't % break anything. But who knows?? % % Any advice appreciated. Thanks. What is the output of ``locate libuuid''? Where is uuid.h on your system? Kurt -- On Monday mornings I am dedicated to the proposition that all men are created jerks. -- Avery ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % On 03/09/03 11:17, Kurt Wall wrote: % >% any new devices in /dev/ needed to correspond to this? % > % >None that you create - the modules and kernel take care of this for you. % >For the record, I have: % > % >$ ls -lR /dev/dri % >crw-rw-rw-1 root root 226, 0 Dec 23 14:17 card0 % % and this happens without devfs? Ayup. % i run at 16bpp anyway, so this is fine with me. i'm guessing that % you're flying smoothly with XFree86-4.3.0? thanks. Precisely. K -- Flugg's Law: When you need to knock on wood is when you realize that the world is composed of vinyl, naugahyde and aluminum. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
On 03/09/03 11:17, Kurt Wall wrote: % any new devices in /dev/ needed to correspond to this? None that you create - the modules and kernel take care of this for you. For the record, I have: $ ls -lR /dev/dri crw-rw-rw-1 root root 226, 0 Dec 23 14:17 card0 and this happens without devfs? Naturally, if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces. It's always Just Worked (c) here. With the i810, the manual page says you only get harware-accelerated 3D via DRI at 16bpp color. I'm unclear, however, if you get DRI at other depths (well, 24bpp) if you don't care about hardware-accelerated 3D -- I've got Matrox and NVIDIA cards here, so I have no problems in that regard. i run at 16bpp anyway, so this is fine with me. i'm guessing that you're flying smoothly with XFree86-4.3.0? thanks. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 11:55am up 12:27, 1 user, load average: 0.37, 0.33, 0.58 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % On 03/09/03 06:53, Kurt Wall wrote: % >Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % >% Good evening, % >% Has anyone played with DRI at all? I'd really like a SxS on it, as i'd % >% like to set it up with out trashing my X configuration. % > % >Not much to play with, frankly. You need [...] % >- A DRI section in your config file: % > % > Section "DRI" % > Mode 0666 % > EndSection % % any new devices in /dev/ needed to correspond to this? None that you create - the modules and kernel take care of this for you. For the record, I have: $ ls -lR /dev/dri crw-rw-rw-1 root root 226, 0 Dec 23 14:17 card0 Naturally, if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces. It's always Just Worked (c) here. With the i810, the manual page says you only get harware-accelerated 3D via DRI at 16bpp color. I'm unclear, however, if you get DRI at other depths (well, 24bpp) if you don't care about hardware-accelerated 3D -- I've got Matrox and NVIDIA cards here, so I have no problems in that regard. Kurt -- It is illegal to say "Oh, Boy" in Jonesboro, Georgia. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
parted failure on SUSE 8.1
I'm going to move away from SUSE, but before I do that I must resize partitions. SUSE provides parted 1.6.3; it doesn't seem to work with reiserfs. The latest is 1.6.5, which acc/to GNU's site, will work with reiser if progsreiserfs is installed. Did that. But when I tried to configure parted, it failed - couldn't find libuuid. I have that, as e2fsprogs is installed. I went through the documentation, configure --help, etc. and couldn't find how to pass the location to configure. I'm probably missing something very obvious here. Why would SUSE provide a parted which won't read the default fs? Also, SUSE doesn't seem to provide an updated parted, and some of that YAST stuff depends on it. I hope the newer parted, installed with checkinstall, won't break anything. But who knows?? Any advice appreciated. Thanks. -- Ed Jabbour ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ntp server: mulitiple interfaces
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 11:57:29AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: >I have xntp set up on a gateway box and it synchronizes well with some >network time servers. I want to use this box to synchronize my home network. > >I can't get my other boxes to see the time server daemon on the gateway >box. This could be explained if the daemon (xntp) was only listening >to one of the two NIC's in the gateway. Using nmap, I don't see any open >port 123, so, this is possible, I suppose. I have not found any >configuration item which tells the daemon which NIC to listen to. What does ``lsof -n -i | grep ntp'' show? I see xntpd listening on all interfaces on one of our dual homed servers. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ There's no trick to being a humorist when you have the whole government working for you. -- Will Rogers ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What's after OpenLinux?
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:37:52AM +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: .. > >The problem is that RPM limits itself to the package in question. emerge >takes the next step and defines the relationship between packages. And, >instead of just stopping and saying "something is missing so bugger off >and sort that out and don't return until you do", as rpm will do, emerge >takes action and gets the missing things. It is the admittance that no >package is an island that makes emerge work. RPM maintains dependency information, particularly well implemented in the source RPMS in the openpkg system. They have a script that generates an XML file with dependency information as well as from parsing the package's spec files to gather information on options selected during the build process. This file can then be used to update in much the same manner as the FreeBSD ports and various non-RPM Linux systems as well. The problems are very different when one is maintaining a small number of systems as opposed to supporting a large number of systems which may well not all be on the same base platform. Using a package management system that's totally independent of the distribution's simplifies life considerably. Using openpkg I no longer have to worry about breaking the distribution's update systems or conflicts within their systems. Given the volatility of Linux distributions over the years, I want the things we do to be as independent of the underlying distribution as possible. This is most important when doing servers where we don't want to have to worry about where things are on different systems (ever maintained apache and all its supporting modules on multiple systems?). Using openpkg, it makes little difference whether we're running on SuSE, Mandrake, Red Hat, or FreeBSD. Moving to a new distribution is usually a matter of rebuilding on the new system from the standard SRPMS. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Anyone who thinks Microsoft never does anything truly innovative isn't paying attention to the part of the company that pushes the state of its art: Microsoft's legal department.'' --Ed Foster, InfoWorld Gripe Line columnist ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
On 03/09/03 06:53, Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % Good evening, % Has anyone played with DRI at all? I'd really like a SxS on it, as i'd % like to set it up with out trashing my X configuration. Not much to play with, frankly. You need - Kernel support for DRM that's easy enough. - A video adapter that supports DRI got i810, so i should be fine there. - A 'Load "dri"' entry in the "Files" section of the X config file to load the X DRI module easy enough. - Possibly an 'Option "DRI"' entry in the "Device" section if your video adapter supports this entry easy. - A DRI section in your config file: Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection any new devices in /dev/ needed to correspond to this? thanks. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step & TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 10:50am up 11:22, 1 user, load average: 0.25, 0.59, 0.64 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What's after OpenLinux?
On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 07:29:39 -0800 Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > > > > The problem is that RPM limits itself to the package in question. > > emerge takes the next step and defines the relationship between > > packages. And, instead of just stopping and saying "something is > > missing so bugger off and sort that out and don't return until you > > do", as rpm will do, emerge takes action and gets the missing things. > > It is the admittance that no package is an island that makes emerge > > work. > > > > There are other problems solved by this approach as well. > > > > > > This sounds like debian apt-get and it's various carnations. The system (Portage) is described by Gentoo as being like the BSD ports system, but with many improvements. I have not used BSD's ports to tell. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ntp server: mulitiple interfaces
I have xntp set up on a gateway box and it synchronizes well with some network time servers. I want to use this box to synchronize my home network. I can't get my other boxes to see the time server daemon on the gateway box. This could be explained if the daemon (xntp) was only listening to one of the two NIC's in the gateway. Using nmap, I don't see any open port 123, so, this is possible, I suppose. I have not found any configuration item which tells the daemon which NIC to listen to. Oh yes. What is the difference between xntp and ntp ? Any suggestions welcome, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What's after OpenLinux?
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: The problem is that RPM limits itself to the package in question. emerge takes the next step and defines the relationship between packages. And, instead of just stopping and saying "something is missing so bugger off and sort that out and don't return until you do", as rpm will do, emerge takes action and gets the missing things. It is the admittance that no package is an island that makes emerge work. There are other problems solved by this approach as well. This sounds like debian apt-get and it's various carnations. -- Ken Moffat kmoffat drizzle.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Modem hsp56MR
Bruno Vieira wrote: Please someone knows how to make this cheat of modem works in linux with the sound together? I have a Conectiva Linux 8.0 with a 2.4.18 Kernel. Thank you. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users these links may have info: http://www.linmodems.org/ http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html http://www.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/heby/ltmodem/ http://808hi.com/56k/winmodems.aspms.asp -- Ken Moffat kmoffat drizzle.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % Good evening, % Has anyone played with DRI at all? I'd really like a SxS on it, as i'd % like to set it up with out trashing my X configuration. Not much to play with, frankly. You need - Kernel support for DRM - A video adapter that supports DRI - A 'Load "dri"' entry in the "Files" section of the X config file to load the X DRI module - Possibly an 'Option "DRI"' entry in the "Device" section if your video adapter supports this entry - A DRI section in your config file: Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection http://dri.sourceforget.net/ Kurt -- Real Users never use the Help key. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
On Saturday 08 March 2003 05:19 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Ditto -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd Rather Be Sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Caldera List
I did the same. Didn't even leave a comment first, it just wouldn't have mattered. --- On Sat 03/08, < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: From: [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:19:35 -0700 Subject: Caldera List Welp, I finally pulled the plug on the Caldera Users List. Been a subscriber for 8 years.. The SCO MBA's (appropriately said earlier) really are clueless. They are trying to get the big payoff so they can retire. Steve ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 07:48:49 -0500 "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:42:41 -0600 > Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > List > > > >I have been watching this last bit of conversation with bated > > interest. I am using Caldera stuff still. But it appears I need to > > do some heavy consideration of moving to something else. At this > > time I have a lack of funds to buy much in OS's. I like the setup of > > the eServer/eWorkstation 3.1.1 systems, but they are starting to > > fall back in the stable side of cutting edge. While I do not want > > bleading edge, since I am still do college software design for one > > more year. I would like the opion of this list, no flames as I know > > we all love our stuff . > > > > 1. Should I stay with what I have and just upgrade it as I can to > > xfree 4.3 kernel 2.4.20.X gcc 3.2, I really do not care for kde and > > I am using xfce 3.18 xterm 3.19 ? > > If I were you, I'd stay with what I have right now. If you have a > spare partition, you might try to install something else to play with. > I'd > suggest you look at Knoppix. Knoppix is a basic distro you can even > install to a hard drive (unfortunately, they don't allow XFS install). > > It's based on Debian, so a chicken can do upkeep (upgrade, > maintenance). > dselect takes care of all dependencies for you, not like RPM. IMHO, > it's always been the best, just that annoying GNU stupidity. > > Boot up Knoppix and play with it. You can do almost anything without > affecting your isntalled system as long as you don't make your hard > disk read/write. > > > > > 2. dump it and move to another distro. > > > > System SCSI drives and cdroms NVida RNT2 video Asus P3 mobo. > > 750+ meg memory soundcard nic and some other general stuff. > > > > Any thoughts here as to what direct I might want to go. Cheers to > > all > > > [snip] > > Ciao, > > David A. Bandel > -- > Focus on the dream, not the competition. > Nemesis Racing Team motto > David Sounds logical, I have been listening to the list talk of knoppix, and thought about looking at it. It is on my list now. Too much to d, not enough time in the day. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Dumb question
On Saturday 08 March 2003 11:12 pm, Net Llama!'s voice rose above the ones in my head and stated: > On 03/08/03 19:46, Tom Wilson wrote: > > Question is, can I just create the /usr/src/redhat directory and > > it's subdirectories with no harm done? > > you need rpm-build-4.0.4-7x.18 That was it. I don't how I missed that one. Many thanks Andy, Lonni, and Kurt for the advice. --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Modem hsp56MR
Please someone knows how to make this cheat of modem works in linux with the sound together? I have a Conectiva Linux 8.0 with a 2.4.18 Kernel. Thank you. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:42:41 -0600 Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > List > >I have been watching this last bit of conversation with bated > interest. I am using Caldera stuff still. But it appears I need to do > some heavy consideration of moving to something else. At this time I > have a lack of funds to buy much in OS's. I like the setup of the > eServer/eWorkstation 3.1.1 systems, but they are starting to fall back > in the stable side of cutting edge. While I do not want bleading edge, > since I am still do college software design for one more year. I would > like the opion of this list, no flames as I know we all love our > stuff . > > 1. Should I stay with what I have and just upgrade it as I can to > xfree 4.3 kernel 2.4.20.X gcc 3.2, I really do not care for kde and I > am using xfce 3.18 xterm 3.19 ? If I were you, I'd stay with what I have right now. If you have a spare partition, you might try to install something else to play with. I'd suggest you look at Knoppix. Knoppix is a basic distro you can even install to a hard drive (unfortunately, they don't allow XFS install). It's based on Debian, so a chicken can do upkeep (upgrade, maintenance). dselect takes care of all dependencies for you, not like RPM. IMHO, it's always been the best, just that annoying GNU stupidity. Boot up Knoppix and play with it. You can do almost anything without affecting your isntalled system as long as you don't make your hard disk read/write. > > 2. dump it and move to another distro. > > System SCSI drives and cdroms NVida RNT2 video Asus P3 mobo. > 750+ meg memory soundcard nic and some other general stuff. > > Any thoughts here as to what direct I might want to go. Cheers to all > [snip] Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Missing space in reiserfs partition
Well, who knows what evil I ran mkfs /dev/hdc6 - t ext2 and all was fine. Then I ran mkfs /dev/hdc6 -t ext3, and all was fine. Then I ran mkfs /dev/hdc6 -t reiserfs again, and all was fine, too. So, I have no idea why the first attempt resulted in lost of storage capacity. Here is the current output of df -h after running the three above commands: /dev/hdc1 53M 13k 50M 1% /disks/hdc1 /dev/hdc2 61M 13k 57M 1% /disks/hdc2 /dev/hdc5 34G 1.3G 31G 4% /disks/hdc5 /dev/hdc6 38G 7.7G 30G 21% /disks/hdc6 So, I must have done something wrong the first time I mkfs'ed -t reiserfs. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What's after OpenLinux?
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:33:28 -0800 Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 05:11:23PM -0800, Ted Ozolins wrote: > > >Oh I think there are a lot of refugees from the rpm farm on this list:) > >I left rpm behind a while back, been using mainly Slackware and of > >course that build_it_yourself_unmentionable_G oops I almost said it > >distro. What I enjoy with both of these distro's is that if I find a > >program (xcircuit comes to mind) I would like to evaluate, I wont be > >chasing all over the internet to satisfy its dependencies, nor will I > >be (as I was with Caldera) stopped because of way out-dated libs. > > I've been building RPMS for a variety of systems for several years now, > and really like the philosophy of building from pristine sources under > control of a SPEC file. We're using RPM on Linux, OS X, and SCO > OpenServer, and I can generally write spec files that will build on all > the platforms we support. > > I read about the OpenPKG system in SysAdmin magazine late last year. > It's an RPM based system developed by Cable and Wireless in Europe to > help them maintain a large number of heterogeneous Unix and Linux > systems for their ISP operations. The problem is that RPM limits itself to the package in question. emerge takes the next step and defines the relationship between packages. And, instead of just stopping and saying "something is missing so bugger off and sort that out and don't return until you do", as rpm will do, emerge takes action and gets the missing things. It is the admittance that no package is an island that makes emerge work. There are other problems solved by this approach as well. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What's after OpenLinux?
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 15:20:59 -0700 Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm surprised that no one has done it yet. It would not be a matter of > rocket science to distribute a gentoo based distribution from one or > more (different architecture) base home system. Creating binary update > packages and/or complete replacement tarballs for distribution on CD > would be a relatively trivial undertaking. Binary update CDs could > include a script to tailor anything desired. The complete replacement > CDs would only require relatively trivial modifications to the gentoo > Livecd. I know that the binary update part of Gentoo would be OK. The problem is the initial install. It is not something one would want to do on a regular basis to many systems. It is this that I think is the major stumbling block for production use. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
