Re: What's after OpenLinux?
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:08:09 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:29:25 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 15:20:59 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised that no one has done it yet. It would not be a matter of rocket science to distribute a gentoo based distribution from one or more (different architecture) base home system. Creating binary update packages and/or complete replacement tarballs for distribution on CD would be a relatively trivial undertaking. Binary update CDs could include a script to tailor anything desired. The complete replacement CDs would only require relatively trivial modifications to the gentoo Livecd. I know that the binary update part of Gentoo would be OK. The problem is the initial install. It is not something one would want to do on a regular basis to many systems. It is this that I think is the major stumbling block for production use. Yes, I was not clear enough. What I was suggesting was to install gentoo once (per machine image, P3, Athlon, etc.) on your base system(s) and then to make a tarball of those systems to distribute to customers on CD. You would then keep the mother system(s) up to date and distribute new CDs at whatever interval you deem appropriate. Alternatively, for updates you could distribute the updates as binary ebuilds. The problem is that, despite our efforts, all systems have different hardware. At one point, we were using Dell, as we thought that was all over the place. Then, when a part broke, Dell should replace it, which they did. However, always with different parts. So systems that started out the same ended up different as a result of work done under warranty. Also, system are bought at different times, and this will contain different components. Granted, it is limited to SCSI, ethernet and graphics (in our systems), but this would require more expertise to deal with in a Gentoo install than in a SuSE/RH/whatever that handles the hardware id rather ok. I have not given up the idea. I just want to be clear on what the hurdles will be before deciding to start out. We have a policy that our developers use our product's OS. So, we are using Caldera 3.1.1. (We still have UnixWare systems and do updates, but it is being retired, so we do not require that anyone use it on a daily basis.) I would be vary happy if I could use a system that is kept up to date. Still, even though I would be able to do so, I could not reasonably do so if I did not update all systems in the field. At least not still keeping with the basic idea for the policy: we know everything about the exact software in our customer's systems. I am sure we could change the policy, but we may loose something. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Apache problem
Hi, I just upgraded to Apache 2.0.44 (from source) on a Caldera 3.1 Linux box. Installation went fine, however I no longer have a /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd file to launch httpd. I did track down the /usr/local/apache2/apachectl file which appears to have the same function. In other words, typing in ./apachectl start will start the daemon. My problem is that I can't make it executable! I have tried every 'chmod' combination possible. I've tried chmod a+x and even that doesn't work. It needs to have the ./ in front of it. Does this version NOT have the /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd script? Why can't I make it executable? Brian ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
On Monday 10 March 2003 03:40, Jerry McBride wrote: On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 17:43:12 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you were to run glxinfo it lists that dri=yes ? and what kind of fps are you getting with glxgears -time ? Here's what I see for a Radeon 8500le 64meg: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20020827 AGP 4x x86/MMX/3DNow!/SSE TCL And it gives me: 11058 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2211.400 FPS I'm curious as to what options you have in your XF86Config, and whether SSE really makes that much of a difference: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20020827 AGP 4x x86/MMX/3DNow! TCL 9474 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1894.800 FPS ATI Radeon 8500 64MB Retail, which is supposedly faster (275/275 mhz instead of 250/250 or 230/230), XFree 4.3.0 Bob Raymond Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option SWcursor # [bool] #Option Dac6Bit # [bool] #Option Dac8Bit # [bool] #Option ForcePCIMode # [bool] #Option CPPIOMode # [bool] #Option CPusecTimeout # i Option AGPMode4 #Option AGPSize # i #Option RingSize # i #Option BufferSize# i #Option EnableDepthMoves # [bool] Option CrtScreen True #Option PanelSize # [str] #Option UseFBDev # [bool] Identifier Card0 Driver radeon VendorName ATI BoardNameRadeon 8500 QL BusID PCI:1:0:0: EndSection -- Linux EPoX.Linux.Raymond 2.5.64-ac3 #1 Sat Mar 8 11:54:30 UTC 2003 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 12:24:53 up 18 min, 2 users, load average: 0.21, 0.24, 0.13 Tobacco is a filthy weed, That from the devil does proceed; It drains your purse, it burns your clothes, And makes a chimney of your nose. -- B. Waterhouse ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera List
Javier Hernandez wrote: I am testing some other distros: Suse and debian (libranet). libranet has a new version in beta, looks improved. They are selling the current version (2.7) at a discount ($25). ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good
Joel Hammer wrote: How do I tell what the package is. All this stuff happens automatically and I know nothing about debian. Where on the computer would I find the package name? Joel I'm curious about the packaging of SO you downloaded from the warehouse. Was it a tar? For apt-get or synaptic to work, you need sources, i.e. URL's, listed in /etc/apt/sources.list. This is where you can set the range of your updates to stable, testing, or unstable. What is listed in your Lindows? re StarOffice: did you have to run through the usual SO setup after you downloaded it? I am not aware of any Deb package of SO. I remember that Caldera 2.2/2.3 included SO 5 in RPM, but you still had to go through the setup rigamarole. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problem installing Galeon
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Iraj Medifar wrote: Hi everyone: Would someone please help me figure this out: I just tried to upgrade to galeon-1.2.8-7.x_8.0.i386 but realized that I first had to upgrade to mozilla-1.3b-0_gtk2_xft.i386. Well, I did that, too. However, when I try to upgrade galeon, I get this message: libgtksuperwin.so is needed by galeon-1.2.8-7.x_8.0. Sounds strange to me, because libgtksuperwin happens to be sitting right in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3b. Any solution? is /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3b in /etc/ld.so.conf? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apache problem
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Brian Witowski wrote: Hi, I just upgraded to Apache 2.0.44 (from source) on a Caldera 3.1 Linux box. Installation went fine, however I no longer have a /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd file to launch httpd. I did track down the /usr/local/apache2/apachectl file which appears to have the same function. In other words, typing in ./apachectl start will start the daemon. My problem is that I can't make it executable! I have tried every 'chmod' combination possible. I've tried chmod a+x and even that doesn't work. It needs to have the ./ in front of it. what does the header look like? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:57:59 -0500 Leon A. Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] re StarOffice: did you have to run through the usual SO setup after you downloaded it? I am not aware of any Deb package of SO. I remember that Caldera 2.2/2.3 included SO 5 in RPM, but you still had to go through the setup rigamarole. yes there are debs of SO (1.0.2 is the version I have loaded). And it's split out better into the different language packs. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera Sues IBM
At 05:25 PM 3/9/03 -0500, Kurt Wall wrote: SCO will have a hard time explaining why they waited over 4 years to decide IBM left them at the altar. Not really. They can claim they didn't have definite knowledge till Caldera (Linux partner of IBM) bought SCO (UNIX partner of IBM) and they could compare notes without NDAs getting in the way. SCO will have an even harder time demonstrating that major advances in Linux performance and architecture that happened *before* IBM got involved were the result of IBM disclosing proprietary knowledge. So true. Kurt Stuart Biggerstaff Linda Hall Library of Science Engineering Technology 5109 Cherry St. Kansas City, MO 64110 Phone: (816) 926-8748 (800) 662-1545 x748 FAX:(816) 926-8785 URL:www.lindahall.org ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
Jerry McBride wrote: On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 17:43:12 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you were to run glxinfo it lists that dri=yes ? and what kind of fps are you getting with glxgears -time ? Here's what I see for a Radeon 8500le 64meg: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20020827 AGP 4x x86/MMX/3DNow!/SSE TCL And it gives me: 11058 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2211.400 FPS Finally, I've got DRI running on Slack-8.1 but not as I would like to see it. I couldn't get the dri extension up on X-4.2 so I finally did the up-grade to 4.3. glxinfo relects the fact that dri is up but at AGP 1x. My ri28 board is 2x and my mb will support up to 4x. Is there a switch or other entry one has to do to XF86Config to get the 2x? I've rtfm'd every doc I can find, yet have seen no reference to AGP settings. Did I miss something? TIA -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
rtfm'd every doc I can find, yet have seen no reference to AGP settings. Did I miss something? Dang! if I'd read all the mail I'd had seen Roberts XF86Config section on vidio. Thanks...:) -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
Kurt Wall wrote: Make sure the agpgart.o module is getting loaded. Option AGPMode 2 See also: Option AGPFastWrite Yes These are valid for the radeon driver, so they might work for the r128. Kurt ___ Yes, found the AGPMode reference in a prior post by Robert. Later I'll have to try the AGPFastWrite option and see what that does. So far I've gone from 155 fps to 608, I'll see what it will do after . Thank you:) -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Modem hsp56MR
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Wade Barocsi wrote: On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:46:23 -0300 Bruno Vieira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please someone knows how to make this cheat of modem works in linux with the sound together? I have a Conectiva Linux 8.0 with a 2.4.18 Kernel. Thank you. What type of modem/sound card is it? or what is the system manufacturer? It sounds like a conexant. if so they use several chipsets, most of which work fine in linux. my laptop (HPze4124)uses this, and both sound and modem work. see if you can find what chipset it uses. there is a utility available to determine what chipset is used, and the apropriate driver. lspci is normally able to provide this information. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % Good evening, % Has anyone played with DRI at all? I'd really like a SxS on it, as i'd % like to set it up with out trashing my X configuration. Not much to play with, frankly. You need - Kernel support for DRM any specific entry that i'd need in /etc/modules.conf to call the i810 module at bootup? - A video adapter that supports DRI - A 'Load dri' entry in the Files section of the X config file to load the X DRI module - Possibly an 'Option DRI' entry in the Device section if your video adapter supports this entry - A DRI section in your config file: Section DRI Mode 0666 EndSection ok, i've got all that nailed down. http://dri.sourceforget.net/ was that typo intentional? :) -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good
David Bandel wrote: yes there are debs of SO (1.0.2 is the version I have loaded). And it's split out better into the different language packs. Star Office 1.0.2? Surely you mean Open Office? -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera WS 3.1.1 Linux System LI D850MVL ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:30:39 + Robert E. Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious as to what options you have in your XF86Config, and whether SSE really makes that much of a difference: It's not real fancy, but here's a clip from my XF86Config file: Section Module Loaddbe Loadspeedo Loadfreetype Loadxtt Load glx Load dri EndSection Section Device Identifier Radeon 8500LE Driver radeon VideoRam65536 Option accel option backingstore option AGPFastWrite 1 option EnablePageFlip 1 option AGPmode 4 EndSection I'm still experimenting with compile options in host.def with xc 4.30 sources. So far... the best performance has been with the default host.def file... a null length file... Go figure. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 7:11pm up 62 days, 45 min, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Kurt Wall wrote: % Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % % Good evening, % % Has anyone played with DRI at all? I'd really like a SxS on it, as i'd % % like to set it up with out trashing my X configuration. % % Not much to play with, frankly. You need % % - Kernel support for DRM % % any specific entry that i'd need in /etc/modules.conf to call the i810 % module at bootup? I don't know. modprobe i810 is the best I know to tell you. The kernel-parameters.txt file indicates that i810= accepts some parameters, but damfino what they are. Perhaps modinfo -p i810 will enlighten you? % http://dri.sourceforget.net/ % % was that typo intentional? :) Er, no. Kurt -- The law will never make men free; it is men who have got to make the law free. -- Henry David Thoreau ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % well, i got to the point where i saw: % direct rendering: Yes % % however, if i try run glxgears, my entire X session goes to hell, with % the output getting literally smeared horizontally across the screen. this % was with 32MB of memory specified in XF86Config. when i reduced it to % 4096, X fails to start altogether, and i see these errors: % [drm:i810_unlock] *ERROR* Process 587 using kernel context 0 % mtrr: base(0xf800) is not aligned on a size(0x4b) boundary 4096K is not enough. The FAQ at the DRI home page indicates somewhere between 1K and 16384K is the preferred value. % rebuilt 2.4.20 with DRM support, and also compiled the relevant i810 % module. lsmod shows: % Module Size Used byNot tainted % i810 73464 1 % agpgart21728 7 (autoclean) Looks good here. % % - A video adapter that supports DRI % % i810 is what i have, so this should be a no brainer. % % - A 'Load dri' entry in the Files section of the X config file to %load the X DRI module % % done % % - Possibly an 'Option DRI' entry in the Device section if your %video adapter supports this entry % % this doesn't appear to be supported by i810 as far as i can tell. % % - A DRI section in your config file: % %Section DRI %Mode 0666 %EndSection % % done that too. % % any suggestions/ideas? MTRR support? I'm quite at a loss. Kurt -- I shot an arrow into the air, and it stuck. -- Graffito in Los Angeles ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good
This is what I have. When I first ran apt-get, I was told I had to update my sources, so I pressed Y and everything went automatically. deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free For apt-get or synaptic to work, you need sources, i.e. URL's, listed in /etc/apt/sources.list. This is where you can set the range of your updates to stable, testing, or unstable. What is listed in your Lindows? Regarding staroffice, I have these files, which look like all the other debian package files: /var/lib/dpkg/info/staroffice-common.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/staroffice-common.md5sums /var/lib/dpkg/info/staroffice-common.postinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/staroffice-common.postrm /var/lib/dpkg/info/staroffice-common.preinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/staroffice-common.prerm /var/lib/dpkg/info/staroffice.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/staroffice.md5sums /var/lib/dpkg/info/staroffice.postinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/staroffice.postrm /var/lib/dpkg/info/staroffice.preinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/staroffice.prerm So, it looks like a debian package. Now, as to what this is called, it bills itself as Staroffice version 6.0. I suppose that is supposed to suggest this is not open source software. It is advertised as a $70 value. This is good, I suppose. Well, now my next job is to figure out how to make this thang allow remote X sessions. This could take a while. As I recall, libranet did that without any effort on my part, but lindows doesn't seem quite so obliging. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
On 03/10/03 17:27, Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % well, i got to the point where i saw: % direct rendering: Yes % % however, if i try run glxgears, my entire X session goes to hell, with % the output getting literally smeared horizontally across the screen. this % was with 32MB of memory specified in XF86Config. when i reduced it to % 4096, X fails to start altogether, and i see these errors: % [drm:i810_unlock] *ERROR* Process 587 using kernel context 0 % mtrr: base(0xf800) is not aligned on a size(0x4b) boundary 4096K is not enough. The FAQ at the DRI home page indicates somewhere between 1K and 16384K is the preferred value. when i had set it to 32M i get the funky smearing effect if i ran glxgears. 16M is refused to start X, less i got those funky errors above. *shrug* % - A video adapter that supports DRI % % i810 is what i have, so this should be a no brainer. % % - A 'Load dri' entry in the Files section of the X config file to %load the X DRI module % % done % % - Possibly an 'Option DRI' entry in the Device section if your %video adapter supports this entry % % this doesn't appear to be supported by i810 as far as i can tell. % % - A DRI section in your config file: % %Section DRI %Mode 0666 %EndSection % % done that too. % % any suggestions/ideas? MTRR support? I'm quite at a loss. i have a /proc/mtrr if that's what you mean: reg00: base=0x ( 0MB), size= 512MB: write-back, count=1 reg01: base=0x1ff0 ( 511MB), size= 1MB: uncachable, count=1 reg02: base=0xf800 (3968MB), size= 64MB: write-combining, count=1 am i supposed to do something with it? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:35pm up 1 day, 18:07, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.21, 0.24 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
On 03/10/03 17:24, Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Kurt Wall wrote: % Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % % Good evening, % % Has anyone played with DRI at all? I'd really like a SxS on it, as i'd % % like to set it up with out trashing my X configuration. % % Not much to play with, frankly. You need % % - Kernel support for DRM % % any specific entry that i'd need in /etc/modules.conf to call the i810 % module at bootup? I don't know. modprobe i810 is the best I know to tell you. The kernel-parameters.txt file indicates that i810= accepts some parameters, but damfino what they are. Perhaps modinfo -p i810 will enlighten you? looks like it gets modprobed with agpart is called. or at least it was loaded automagically on bootup. % http://dri.sourceforget.net/ % % was that typo intentional? :) Er, no. what ya got against sf.net? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:35pm up 1 day, 18:07, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.21, 0.24 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
On March 9, 2003 09:56 pm, Tim Wunder wrote: And it gives me: 11058 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2211.400 FPS wow. glxgears -time 29279 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5855.800 FPS 34954 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6990.800 FPS (GeForce 4 TI4200) David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:11:50 -0500 Leon Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Bandel wrote: yes there are debs of SO (1.0.2 is the version I have loaded). And it's split out better into the different language packs. Star Office 1.0.2? Surely you mean Open Office? Yes, I do. Not much difference from what I've seen, unless you want clipart and a few hardly-used filters. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:30:15 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what I have. When I first ran apt-get, I was told I had to update my sources, so I pressed Y and everything went automatically. deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free woody is stable If you don't know who Woody is, go watch Toy Story. Sid (the brat next door) is unstable. Other releases have been potato, slinky, etc. I suggest you change woody to stable. Then copy the stable lines and change stable to testing (so you'll have entries for both stable and testing). Don't add unstable unless your want to risk having an unstable system. [snip] Well, now my next job is to figure out how to make this thang allow remote X sessions. This could take a while. As I recall, libranet did that without any effort on my part, but lindows doesn't seem quite so obliging. Depending on how Debian Lindows is, you'll have a lot of work to do. Debian runs the Xserver with options like -nolisten TCP and turns off xdm. Almost every file to do with X needs tweaking. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
Feigning erudition, David Aikema wrote: % On March 9, 2003 09:56 pm, Tim Wunder wrote: % % And it gives me: 11058 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2211.400 FPS % % wow. % % glxgears -time % 29279 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5855.800 FPS % 34954 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6990.800 FPS % % (GeForce 4 TI4200) Gawd. Kurt -- The typewriting machine, when played with expression, is no more annoying than the piano when played by a sister or near relation. -- Oscar Wilde ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % On 03/10/03 17:24, Kurt Wall wrote: % % Er, no. % % what ya got against sf.net? Nuttin'. Kurt -- I'd love to go out with you, but I'm doing door-to-door collecting for static cling. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
Kurt Wall wrote: % % - A DRI section in your config file: % %Section DRI %Mode 0666 %EndSection Everything up to this entry works great here, As soon as I make this entry my system does all kinds of weird output to the monitor, even fails to load X at times. Removeing this entry corrects that behavior. As usual YMMV -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
On 03/10/03 18:38, Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, David Aikema wrote: % On March 9, 2003 09:56 pm, Tim Wunder wrote: % % And it gives me: 11058 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2211.400 FPS % % wow. % % glxgears -time % 29279 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5855.800 FPS % 34954 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6990.800 FPS % % (GeForce 4 TI4200) Gawd. that's like the speed of light or something. can you even see the gears spinning or do they look like solid wheels? ;) -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:10pm up 1 day, 19:42, 1 user, load average: 0.68, 0.74, 0.66 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
On 03/10/03 19:10, Ted Ozolins wrote: Kurt Wall wrote: % % - A DRI section in your config file: % %Section DRI %Mode 0666 %EndSection Everything up to this entry works great here, As soon as I make this entry my system does all kinds of weird output to the monitor, even fails to load X at times. Removeing this entry corrects that behavior. As usual YMMV which kernel X version? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:10pm up 1 day, 19:42, 1 user, load average: 0.68, 0.74, 0.66 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problem installing Galeon
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:28:19 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Iraj Medifar wrote: Hi everyone: Would someone please help me figure this out: I just tried to upgrade to galeon-1.2.8-7.x_8.0.i386 but realized that I first had to upgrade to mozilla-1.3b-0_gtk2_xft.i386. Well, I did that, too. However, when I try to upgrade galeon, I get this message: libgtksuperwin.so is needed by galeon-1.2.8-7.x_8.0. Sounds strange to me, because libgtksuperwin happens to be sitting right in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3b. Any solution? is /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3b in /etc/ld.so.conf? -- It wasn't. So I added it to the file, but it didn't solve the problem. IM ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMohttp://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Iraj Medifar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problem installing Galeon
An unnamed Administration source, Iraj Medifar, wrote: % On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:28:19 -0500 (EST) % Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Iraj Medifar wrote: % Hi everyone: % % Would someone please help me figure this out: % % I just tried to upgrade to galeon-1.2.8-7.x_8.0.i386 but realized that I first had to upgrade to mozilla-1.3b-0_gtk2_xft.i386. % Well, I did that, too. However, when I try to upgrade galeon, I get this message: libgtksuperwin.so is needed by galeon-1.2.8-7.x_8.0. % % Sounds strange to me, because libgtksuperwin happens to be sitting right in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3b. Any solution? % % is /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3b in /etc/ld.so.conf? % % -- It wasn't. So I added it to the file, but it didn't solve the problem. % IM Iraj, You have to execute /sbin/ldconfig as root to make the linker-loader pick up the new directory. Kurt -- A power so great, it can only be used for Good or Evil! -- Firesign Theatre, The Giant Rat of Summatra ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, David Aikema wrote: % On March 9, 2003 09:56 pm, Tim Wunder wrote: % % And it gives me: 11058 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2211.400 FPS % % wow. % % glxgears -time % 29279 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5855.800 FPS % 34954 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6990.800 FPS % % (GeForce 4 TI4200) Gawd. Kurt Sheesh! That does it, time for a new card:) -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Abiword font problem
There is well known font bug in abiword. I read the FAQ and added the abiword font directory to my XF86Config-4. There are no error messages when X starts up and it lists that font directory in its fonts path. But, abiword complains at startup about the font path and then complains when I try to load certain fonts, then it crashes. So, the question is, is anyone successfully using abiword version 1.02 and if so, how did you get around the font problem? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DRI anyone?
Earlier I wrote that by entering : Section DRI Mode 0666 EndSection caused various problems, well, that was due to a typo in my config me very bad Having corrected this (0 instead of O) everything is solid here. My apologies . -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problem installing Galeon
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:37:16 -0800 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/10/03 19:29, Iraj Medifar wrote: On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:28:19 -0500 (EST) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Iraj Medifar wrote: Hi everyone: Would someone please help me figure this out: I just tried to upgrade to galeon-1.2.8-7.x_8.0.i386 but realized that I first had to upgrade to mozilla-1.3b-0_gtk2_xft.i386. Well, I did that, too. However, when I try to upgrade galeon, I get this message: libgtksuperwin.so is needed by galeon-1.2.8-7.x_8.0. Sounds strange to me, because libgtksuperwin happens to be sitting right in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3b. Any solution? is /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3b in /etc/ld.so.conf? -- It wasn't. So I added it to the file, but it didn't solve the problem. did you run ldconfig after appending it? I have now run both ldconfig and /sbin/ldconfig. Still get the same segfault popup. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:35pm up 1 day, 20:07, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.07, 0.18 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Iraj Medifar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
