Gnome Pooched after glib / gtk upgrade....
Folks, I just compiled and installed the following libs and there dependencies on rh8.0 gtk+-2.2.1 glib-2.2.1 I needed them to compile dia 0.91 (great drawing program that now has cisco shapes woo hoo) I used ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc for all libs. Now I get as a standard muppet user (gnome-background-properties:24030): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot create instance of abstract (non-instantiatable) type `GtkWidget' As root I can launch the gnome-*-* applets without the complaint and no segfault... Ideas? James McDonald ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video capture
I just picked up the ATI Video Wonder VE vard (which I thought was the WinTV card... READ THE BOX BEFORE PURCHASE :) I think it also has a conexant chipset, but SuSE81 autodetected it just fine. I have REALLY been impressed with SuSE81's device management (except for the stupid one pointer approach). I enabled my AHA152x, and SuSE automagically detected my CD burner and my scanner, and auto configured them so all the MM apps knew about them. I stuck in the video card and it popped up with the same notice, autodetected and let me autoconfigure, and put a desktop Icon for the card, and all the MM apps see it. Very impressive. I may still take back the ATI card, though, since I was hoping for stereo, and wanted the Hauppauge card... I think Walmart just stopped carrying the WinTV card in-store, and moved it to online only. On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:52:11 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:35 PM 13/03/2003 -0500, you wrote: If you're just doing video in, I've HEARD great things about the cheapo Hauppauge WinTV card you can buy at Walmart and Best Buy. I'm about to pick one up and test it out. Otherwise I'm saving up my pennies for a ATI AIW/RADEON card I have recently purchased a Hauppauge tv 250 and it will not install with linux as the drivers used are no longer BTxxx but as they replied to me: Hi, We are using ITVC15 conexan chip for your model. There is no Linux driver for this model yet. I wanted hardware mpeg2 encoding to keep everything synced, but I now find that the pinnacle TV pro would have been the better buy as its bt based. Keith Antoine ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video capture
Yes. :) I have had problems with 8.1 and my digital camera, which I solved by d'ling gphoto from the Caldera SOSS site ( ftp://ftp2.caldera.com/pub/soss/RPMS/gphoto* ) I have also been doing the Digital Video capture stuff. See my other post. On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:09:20 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you talking digital cameras or digital video? My experience is more with digital cameras, like the Sony DFW-SX900. I had been looking at Broadcast2000 for video, but I think that went away over fears of legal action if it allowed people to copy DVDs. I think the apps mentioned on the linux1394 site seem good. BTW, be sure to get an OHCI-type firewire card as the use of DMA is best implemented for this type of card. They are the most common, so the chances are that this is what you would find anyway. On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:50:36-0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Roger. This gives me some hope. Any that you like more than others for Linux usage? I don't have firewire yet, but plan to in the next desktop incantation. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kdm?
On 22 Mar 2003 23:34:41 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which config file determines whether kdm, gdm or xdm is used? For some reason I've drawn a blank. Been at this installing and updating way too long today G Every distro is different here. In Debian and its offshoots: /etc/X11/default-display-manager on other distros, I'm no longer sure -- they keep changing. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: VCR tape to DVD
Sorry for the confusion. On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:39:52 -0800 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, that's a bit different than saying that there are various standards for DVDs. this is dvd recording standards. On 03/13/03 14:52, Matthew Carpenter wrote: DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW I believe. I don't see a problem with using them as a backup medium where the same device will be used to write and read them. It's when you want interoperability. I'm pretty sure my DVD player at home will not read DVD+anything. On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:00:41 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aren't there two competing standards for recordable CDs? Some units support both. There is no clear 'winner' at this time. What are these standards, you ask, as you well may? My info ends at this point. We were looking into DVDs as a backup medium and decided against them. Not just because if the 'wide choice of standards', but because they are really not more convenient than, say, removable disks, or firewire disks. But that is another issue. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:35pm up 4 days, 17:07, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.11, 0.06 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good
Sorry for the late reply. Yes. On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:52:36 -0800 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Carpenter wrote: The coolest is that this hardware is great stuff. It's inexpensive and it runs well. I've been very impressed with SuSE 8.1 on this machine... except for the sissy-keyboard. :) So you'd recommend this $200 box for linux home use? -- Ken Moffat kmoffat at drizzle.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Submissions and absence
Thanks for the good wishes, guys ! I'll see you all in June ! Regards, pascal chong ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: First impressions of a $200 lindows box: Good
Matthew Carpenter wrote: Sorry for the late reply. Yes. On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:52:36 -0800 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you'd recommend this $200 box for linux home use? Still running smooth? You are happy with it's speed? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Mighty Quiet Here
Mighty quiet here. Everyone must be busy installing Slackware 9.0. ;-) K -- Don't kiss an elephant on the lips today. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
Kurt Wall wrote: Mighty quiet here. Everyone must be busy installing Slackware 9.0. ;-) K I'm busy playing with Libranet 2.8 beta 2. nice. (if you like debian with a great installer and lots of up to date packages.) How's the install on Slack9? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Network Address/Netmask Notation
Hi, list, I've never been terribly clear on this, so I'll ask here. Given a network address of, say, 192.168.0.0 and a netmask of /8, thus 192.168.0.0/8, this means that 8 bits of the network address will be used for the host address, which means that any address in the range 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.255 will match. Am I correct? Thanks, Kurt -- When you are in it up to your ears, keep your mouth shut. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
An unnamed Administration source, Ken Moffat, wrote: % Kurt Wall wrote: % % Mighty quiet here. Everyone must be busy installing Slackware 9.0. ;-) % % K % % % I'm busy playing with Libranet 2.8 beta 2. nice. (if you like debian % with a great installer and lots of up to date packages.) % % How's the install on Slack9? 'bout the same as it was in Slackware 8.0 and 8.1. Different packages, naturally, and the network configuration stuff is slightly different, but not much else has change. Kurt -- First things first -- but not necessarily in that order -- The Doctor, Doctor Who ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Network Address/Netmask Notation
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 10:54:54 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, list, I've never been terribly clear on this, so I'll ask here. Given a network address of, say, 192.168.0.0 and a netmask of /8, thus 192.168.0.0/8, this means that 8 bits of the network address will be used for the host address, which means that any address in the range 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.255 will match. Am I correct? you're backwards. 192.168.0.0/24 == 192.168.0.0-192.168.0.255 192.168.0.0/16 == 192.168.0.0-192.168.255.255 192.168.0.0/8 == 192.0.0.0-192.255.255.255 and 192.168.0.0/25 == 192.168.0.0-192.168.0.127 this is the VLSM subset of CIDR. The /# == the number of ones in the netmask. i.e., /8 == netmask 255.0.0.0, /24 == netmask 255.255.255.0, /25 = netmask 255.255.255.128 (note: linewrap above at no additional charge) Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 09:54:57 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mighty quiet here. Everyone must be busy installing Slackware 9.0. ;-) Yup... slackware spelled G E N T O O... Excellent. I should have done this years ago... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 11:08am up 74 days, 16:42, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 09:54:57 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mighty quiet here. Everyone must be busy installing Slackware 9.0. ;-) No, actually, d/l the latest Knoppix. K -- Don't kiss an elephant on the lips today. Good safety tip, here. I'll keep that in mind. ;-) Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Network Address/Netmask Notation
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 10:54:54 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, list, I've never been terribly clear on this, so I'll ask here. Given a network address of, say, 192.168.0.0 and a netmask of /8, thus 192.168.0.0/8, this means that 8 bits of the network address will be used for the host address, which means that any address in the range 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.255 will match. Am I correct? Reading your question literally (the last part of it anyway), yes, 0.1-0.255 will match your /8. But I know that's not what you meant. Getting this backwards on a firewall could be disastrous. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fw: Re: Network Address/Netmask Notation
Ugg, forget that. It was too early to think. What I gave was for x.x.x.x/16 Begin forwarded message: Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 08:09:23 -0800 From: Vern W Heesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Network Address/Netmask Notation You are correct that the first 2 octets are for network number, which leaves the last 2 octets for hosts. So the range of useable host addresses are 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.255.254 with a netmask of 255.255.0.0 On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 10:54:54 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, list, I've never been terribly clear on this, so I'll ask here. Given a network address of, say, 192.168.0.0 and a netmask of /8, thus 192.168.0.0/8, this means that 8 bits of the network address will be used for the host address, which means that any address in the range 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.255 will match. Am I correct? Thanks, Kurt -- When you are in it up to your ears, keep your mouth shut. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Network Address/Netmask Notation
You are correct that the first 2 octets are for network number, which leaves the last 2 octets for hosts. So the range of useable host addresses are 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.255.254 with a netmask of 255.255.0.0 On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 10:54:54 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, list, I've never been terribly clear on this, so I'll ask here. Given a network address of, say, 192.168.0.0 and a netmask of /8, thus 192.168.0.0/8, this means that 8 bits of the network address will be used for the host address, which means that any address in the range 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.255 will match. Am I correct? Thanks, Kurt -- When you are in it up to your ears, keep your mouth shut. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
Naw ... been nice weather so I am back on a project. I am converting a 1990 Dodge Spirit THROTTLE Body (94 HP) to to Turbo II setup to push out 250HP, but it is a complete ground up rebuild - engine, transmission, suspension, wiring harness. prolly get a cute lill' penguin painted on the back of it when I get done. Whilst underneath it, I can't help be keep thinking about how neat it would be to come up with some sort of embeded LINUX computer to drive the fuel/turbo/overboost, but that would then REALLY get over my head quickly ... Any Electronic experts out there ? Jerry McBride wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 09:54:57 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mighty quiet here. Everyone must be busy installing Slackware 9.0. ;-) Yup... slackware spelled G E N T O O... Excellent. I should have done this years ago... -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-946-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
An unnamed Administration source, Ben Duncan, wrote: % Naw ... been nice weather so I am back on a project. % I am converting a 1990 Dodge Spirit THROTTLE Body (94 HP) to to Turbo % II setup % to push out 250HP, but it is a complete ground up rebuild - engine, % transmission, suspension, % wiring harness. prolly get a cute lill' penguin painted on the back of % it when I get done. % % Whilst underneath it, I can't help be keep thinking about how neat it % would be to come % up with some sort of embeded LINUX computer to drive the % fuel/turbo/overboost, % but that would then REALLY get over my head quickly ... Any Electronic % experts out % there ? shameless_plug I hear that TimeSys has a very nice embdedded Linux distribution. /shameless_plug Kurt -- Anything free is worth what you pay for it. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fw: Re: Network Address/Netmask Notation
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 08:13:38 -0800 Vern W Heesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ugg, forget that. It was too early to think. What I gave was for x.x.x.x/16 Yep. And I was just about to answer that. For those of you who have been around networking for less than about 10 years, we didn't always use VLSM (variable length subnet masking), which as I said is a subset of CIDR (classless inter-domain routing). We used to use classful routing which is still built into ifconfig: class A: first octet 0-127 (netmask 255.0.0.0) class B: first octet 128-191 (netmask 255.255.0.0) class C: first octet 192-223 (netmask 255.255.255.0) class D: first octet 224-254 (experimental block, 224.x.x.x now used for multicast for those paying close attention) while the above is obsolete, if you configure an address like 64.116.181.3/29 (netmask 255.255.255.248), you must specify the broadcast address or ifconfig will assume a broadcast address of 64.255.255.255. Obviously incorrect, since our broadcast address is 64.116.181.7. Now VLSM is nice because it allows us to split things up neatly between network and host addresses, the first non-255 octet being one of 0, 128, 192, 224, 240, 248, or 252 (or 254 if the second or third, but not last, octet). With VLSM we can use the /# notation. (Yes, I'm ignoring the special case /32). With non-VLSM CIDR, we can't use /#. We will also get very large headaches trying to calculate which IPs are found on a network with absurd netmasks like 255.255.255.123. If you don't think this is valid, you can try it on your network and see that it works just fine with the following values: network: 192.168.0.1 netmask: 255.255.255.123 broadcast: 192.168.0.133 hosts: 192.168.0.5, 192.168.0.129 yes, for this particular netmask, there are only 2 hosts, other non-VLSM netmasks give varying numbers of hosts in different patterns scattered about between the network and broadcast numbers. Note: since I'm not a masochist and don't like headaches (or anding binary netmasks w/ addresses), I use a program to calculate the above just as the kernel does. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 10:57:33 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An unnamed Administration source, Ken Moffat, wrote: % Kurt Wall wrote: % % Mighty quiet here. Everyone must be busy installing Slackware 9.0. ;-) % % K % % % I'm busy playing with Libranet 2.8 beta 2. nice. (if you like debian % with a great installer and lots of up to date packages.) % % How's the install on Slack9? 'bout the same as it was in Slackware 8.0 and 8.1. Different packages, naturally, and the network configuration stuff is slightly different, but not much else has change. Still thinking about it. I need to get off my duff and put a larger hard drive in my machine first, so that I have room for proper backup. BTW, the network configuration stuff is where I always fall over the cliff with Slack (or debian for that matter). Hows about a brief howto that explains how the networking stuff works on Slack? Yeah, I know I could RTFM, but I usually can't figure out which FM. -- Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
begin Collins Richey's quote: | Yeah, I know I could RTFM, but I usually can't figure out which FM. i've been after babelfish to add man page as a language, but they say it can't be done, in that *no one* has deciphered man page. there is hope that a rock will be found containing sanskrit, ancient greek, and man page, which could prove to be a valuable key. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:33:35 -0500 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: begin Collins Richey's quote: | Yeah, I know I could RTFM, but I usually can't figure out which FM. i've been after babelfish to add man page as a language, but they say it can't be done, in that *no one* has deciphered man page. there is hope that a rock will be found containing sanskrit, ancient greek, and man page, which could prove to be a valuable key. -- Point well taken, but I believe that others may agree that (1) finding the appropriate FM (man page) is not always straight forward and (2) the occasional man page is about as decipherable as sanskrit. -- Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 11:11:56 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:33:35 -0500 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: begin Collins Richey's quote: | Yeah, I know I could RTFM, but I usually can't figure out which FM. i've been after babelfish to add man page as a language, but they say it can't be done, in that *no one* has deciphered man page. there is hope that a rock will be found containing sanskrit, ancient greek, and man page, which could prove to be a valuable key. -- Point well taken, but I believe that others may agree that (1) finding the appropriate FM (man page) is not always straight forward and (2) the occasional man page is about as decipherable as sanskrit. And (3) each distro stows away its critical stuff in /etc and elsewhere in strange and wondrous ways that are not immediately obvious unless you have in depth experience with that particular distro. -- Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Gnome Pooched after glib / gtk upgrade....
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 11:57:15PM +1100, James McDonald wrote: Folks, I just compiled and installed the following libs and there dependencies on rh8.0 gtk+-2.2.1 glib-2.2.1 I needed them to compile dia 0.91 (great drawing program that now has cisco shapes woo hoo) I used ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc for all libs. Now I get as a standard muppet user (gnome-background-properties:24030): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot create instance of abstract (non-instantiatable) type `GtkWidget' As root I can launch the gnome-*-* applets without the complaint and no segfault... Did you run ldconfig after building the new libraries? Are then libraries in the normal place? Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Are we at last brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?'' -- Patrick Henry June 9, 1788, in the Virginia Convention on the ratification of the Constitution. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Burning CD's with Knoppix
Could someone provide me a how-to for burning a CD with Knoppix? A friend just had his Windows 98 roll over. If I can't resurrect it with a dose of Norton, I want at least to rescue his files. TIA. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
Then you have to fight the idiotic mess called info! I skip the ones with we don't believe in man anymore so go read the info doc G. Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I really love the onses from gnu info-centric apps that say, effectively, don't look here, look at info. At least they point you in some direction. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Gnome Pooched after glib / gtk upgrade....
On 03/23/03 04:57, James McDonald wrote: Folks, I just compiled and installed the following libs and there dependencies on rh8.0 gtk+-2.2.1 glib-2.2.1 I needed them to compile dia 0.91 (great drawing program that now has cisco shapes woo hoo) I used ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc for all libs. Now I get as a standard muppet user (gnome-background-properties:24030): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot create instance of abstract (non-instantiatable) type `GtkWidget' As root I can launch the gnome-*-* applets without the complaint and no segfault... did you remove gtk/glib-1.2.x when you installed the 2.2.1 versions? i suspect that your gnome install might need the older versions. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 12:10pm up 14 days, 12:41, 2 users, load average: 0.29, 0.41, 0.44 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Gnome Pooched after glib / gtk upgrade....
Net Llama! wrote: On 03/23/03 04:57, James McDonald wrote: Folks, I just compiled and installed the following libs and there dependencies on rh8.0 gtk+-2.2.1 glib-2.2.1 I needed them to compile dia 0.91 (great drawing program that now has cisco shapes woo hoo) I used ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc for all libs. Now I get as a standard muppet user (gnome-background-properties:24030): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot create instance of abstract (non-instantiatable) type `GtkWidget' As root I can launch the gnome-*-* applets without the complaint and no segfault... did you remove gtk/glib-1.2.x when you installed the 2.2.1 versions? i suspect that your gnome install might need the older versions. No I left the old libs where they are but I presume that the gtk-2.0 libs from the old version where replaced to by the new install. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Gnome Pooched after glib / gtk upgrade....
Bill Campbell wrote: On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 11:57:15PM +1100, James McDonald wrote: Folks, I just compiled and installed the following libs and there dependencies on rh8.0 gtk+-2.2.1 glib-2.2.1 I needed them to compile dia 0.91 (great drawing program that now has cisco shapes woo hoo) I used ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc for all libs. Now I get as a standard muppet user (gnome-background-properties:24030): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot create instance of abstract (non-instantiatable) type `GtkWidget' As root I can launch the gnome-*-* applets without the complaint and no segfault... Did you run ldconfig after building the new libraries? Are then libraries in the normal place? yes I ran ldconfig and the libs are in /usr/lib ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
Collins, you posts are not wrapping - they appear as one long line. Other;s show up okay and it shows up good when I replay to you. Collins Richey wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:16:08 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then you have to fight the idiotic mess called info! I skip the ones with we don't believe in man anymore so go read the info doc G. Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I really love the onses from gnu info-centric apps that say, effectively, don't look here, look at info. At least they point you in some direction. Oh yes! My original post was a little cryptic. I had hoped to entice someone to reply with this is now the files related to comm (/etc and ?? and the related boot scripts) work on Slack 9.0 so that I can be appropriately lazy when I try Slack 9.0. If this is really in the man and info files (and not in hieroglyphs), a pointer to the appropriate entries would suffice. -- Collins -- Collins -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: linux like Alpha4 relational database?
Thanks, for everyones help, tips and urls... But you won't believe this... We're going with Alpha 5 and win98se... Hmmm... The win version of Alpha won't run on wine... shame too. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 5:36pm up 74 days, 23:10, 4 users, load average: 0.17, 0.06, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
An unnamed Administration source, Collins Richey, wrote: % On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 10:57:33 -0500 % Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] % BTW, the network configuration stuff is where I always fall over % the cliff with Slack (or debian for that matter). Hows about a % brief howto that explains how the networking stuff works on Slack? % Yeah, I know I could RTFM, but I usually can't figure out which FM. Most of the network configuration stuff happens in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 and /etc/rc.d/rc.inet2. Kurt -- There once was a girl named Irene Who lived on distilled kerosene But she started absorbin' A new hydrocarbon And since then has never benzene. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
An unnamed Administration source, dep, wrote: % begin Collins Richey's quote: % % | Yeah, I know I could RTFM, but I usually can't figure out which FM. % % i've been after babelfish to add man page as a language, but they % say it can't be done, in that *no one* has deciphered man page. there % is hope that a rock will be found containing sanskrit, ancient greek, % and man page, which could prove to be a valuable key. Someone has already created a Rosetta Man, I believe. Failing that, you can always ask me. :-) Kurt -- Boy, life takes a long time to live. -- Steven Wright ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
mysql
I must be over-looking some basic step in setting up (or attempting to) mysql. This is on a Slackware-8.1 box.I have done the mysql_install_db; mysqladmin -u user -p password 'new-pasword' I then use safe_mysqld to start mysqld .. then when I try to create or do anything I keep getting mysqld Enter password: mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Using password: YES)' Any thoughts? I missed something of that I'm sure. I've read the FM over and over again but I can't see what I've missed. I followed (HTML docs) to the letter and still no joy. Should setting up mysql be this illusive? TIA -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Evolution ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Burning CD's with Knoppix
Maybe you should post this question under a different thread name. But, just guessing: Do you have valid media? Is the drive unmounted? Joel [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cdrecord -v speed=1 dev=0,0,0 -data /home/ahr1/burn Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.5' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 2 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: 'IOMEGA ' Identifikation : 'CDRW6402EXT-B ' Revision : 'UOSA' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO Drive buf size : 1966272 = 1920 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 267 MB Total size: 306 MB (30:22.74) = 136706 sectors Lout start: 306 MB (30:24/56) = 136706 sectors Current Secsize: -1073734144 cdrecord: Input/output error. read disk info: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 04 01 00 00 Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x04 Qual 0x01 (logical unit is in process of becoming ready) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.318s timeout 240s cdrecord: Cannot get disk type. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# I've been trying to get this @#$%^ CD-RW to work, so any help you can give would be much appreciated! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Burning CD's with Knoppix
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 13:31:25 -0500 Leon A. Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone provide me a how-to for burning a CD with Knoppix? A friend just had his Windows 98 roll over. If I can't resurrect it with a dose of Norton, I want at least to rescue his files. cdrecord -v -eject speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -data KNOPPIX-whatever.iso Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Burning CD's with Knoppix
Joel Hammer wrote: Does knoppix have cdrecord and mkisofs on it? If so, I can tell you how I do it. Basically, like this: cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 Jrg Schilling Using libscg version 'schily-0.1' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'SONY ' 'CD-RW CRX215E1 ' 'SYS2' Removable CD-ROM If you get this, then the following should work: mkisofs -r -J -o /home/jlh/cdimage/TIFs /mnt/hdb/10/Prostate Where /mnt/hdb/10/Prostate is the directory with the stuff to burn and TIFs is the name of the iso9660 file to be created. Then, burn it with: cdrecord -v speed=1 dev=0,0,0 -data /home/jlh/cdimage/TIFs Joel: thanks. The problem I anticipate is creating a directory for mkisofs to store the image file. The computer in question only has one HD, and AFAIK has only Win 98 occupying all available drive real estate. Knoppix has XCDRoast, ergo the necessary support files are on board, but of course XCDRoast can't be configured because I can't write to the Knoppix CD. (To recapitulate the problem: I'm trying to see if I can use Knoppix to rescue files from a crapped out Win 98 install by burning them to a CD) -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera WS 3.1.1 Linux System LI D850MVL ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Burning CD's with Knoppix
On 03/23/03 17:10, Leon Goldstein wrote: (To recapitulate the problem: I'm trying to see if I can use Knoppix to rescue files from a crapped out Win 98 install by burning them to a CD) wouldn't it be alot easier just to scp the files to another box? knoppix can certainly do that. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:10pm up 14 days, 17:41, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.14, 0.27 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Burning CD's with Knoppix
Does it matter if win98 occupies the hard drive? Knoppix writes well to vfat drives. Joel Joel: thanks. The problem I anticipate is creating a directory for mkisofs to store the image file. The computer in question only has one HD, and AFAIK has only Win 98 occupying all available drive real estate. Knoppix has XCDRoast, ergo the necessary support files are on board, but of course XCDRoast can't be configured because I can't write to the Knoppix CD. (To recapitulate the problem: I'm trying to see if I can use Knoppix to rescue files from a crapped out Win 98 install by burning them to a CD) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 17:40:01 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An unnamed Administration source, Collins Richey, wrote: % On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 10:57:33 -0500 % Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] % BTW, the network configuration stuff is where I always fall over % the cliff with Slack (or debian for that matter). Hows about a % brief howto that explains how the networking stuff works on Slack? % Yeah, I know I could RTFM, but I usually can't figure out which FM. Most of the network configuration stuff happens in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 and /etc/rc.d/rc.inet2. Thanks, Kurt. Will file away to use when I try Slack again. I just got my disks reorg'd, gentoo updated, and a good backup, so maybe next week I'll be ready to play again. I still need a larger hard drive, but I found space for a new install. Also, my new 19 ViewSonic is up and flying. Life is better with a little more screen real estate. -- Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Alternate backup strategies
Does anyone have experience with using an external drive (USB or
firewire, perhaps) for backup and releveant howto, preferences, etc.?
These beasties are fairly cheap, but do they work well with linux?
Oops, part II: How about DVD-R{etc.}?
I intended to send this out here, but it went to Gentoo instead (thank
you Dr. Freud!). I got some responses recommending Firewire (loves it)
and others inquiring about writable DVD support.
What experience have you guys and gals with this?
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Re: mysql
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:34:29 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must be over-looking some basic step in setting up (or attempting to) mysql. This is on a Slackware-8.1 box.I have done the mysql_install_db; mysqladmin -u user -p password 'new-pasword' I then use safe_mysqld to start mysqld .. then when I try to create or do anything I keep getting mysqld Enter password: mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed Are you doing this as root? error: 'Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Using password: YES)' Are you doing this as user TED? Any thoughts? I missed something of that I'm sure. I've read the FM over and over again but I can't see what I've missed. I followed (HTML docs) to the letter and still no joy. Should setting up mysql be this illusive? Yup. It can be a total nightmare first time around. Even second, third, etc... Log in as root, ping localhost for fun, then run mysqladmin and try to create and then delete a couple of databases... if that works then you are in. Run mysqladmin again and create your real database. Fireup mysql, access your new database and setup permissions for user TED and ROOT coming in from both localhost and whatever ip you wish. Quit mysql and then run your application, or whatever you have to use your new database as user TED or ROOT. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 9:23pm up 75 days, 2:57, 4 users, load average: 0.08, 0.04, 0.06 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mighty Quiet Here
No complaint this time G. Collins Richey wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 17:34:21 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins, you posts are not wrapping - they appear as one long line. Other;s show up okay and it shows up good when I replay to you. Oh, sweet mysteries of life. Somehow wrap before send got unchecked. Should be fixed now; complain again if not. -- Collins -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Burning CD's with Knoppix
Net Llama! wrote: On 03/23/03 17:10, Leon Goldstein wrote: > (To recapitulate the problem: I'm trying to see if I can use Knoppix to > rescue files from a crapped out Win 98 install by burning them to a CD) wouldn't it be alot easier just to scp the files to another box? knoppix can certainly do that. Not really. It's easier to burn a CD, which I just did a few moments ago. I found a thread on the Knoppix forum, which is in German, "Brenner" (burner). There were numerous complaints about BakeOven, but one report of success with Gcombust. I burned a 24 mb directory from my win98 partition on my "lab rat" - no image directory needed. Apparently Gcombust will burn data files on the fly. Or does it store the image in its ramdisk? There was no image directory shown in the Gcombust preferences. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Caldera WS 3.1.1 Linux System LI D850MVL ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
