Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc

2003-07-27 Thread Keith Antoine
On Saturday 26 July 2003 10:32 pm, Kurt Wall wrote:
 Quoth Keith Antoine:
  On Saturday 26 July 2003 05:35 pm, David A. Bandel wrote:
   Might try http://linuxbooks.pananix.com/kernel2.6.html for my stab at
   2.6 gotcha documentation.
  
   Ciao,
  
   David A. Bandel
 
  Phewww!! I could breathe again at last: Many thanks.

 Another helpful doc, although a little bit dated, is
 http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt.
 However, just now, I'm gettin Connection Refused errors. Anyone else?

 Kurt

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Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc

2003-07-27 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Kurt Wall schrieb:
Quoth Keith Antoine:

On Saturday 26 July 2003 05:35 pm, David A. Bandel wrote:


Might try http://linuxbooks.pananix.com/kernel2.6.html for my stab at
2.6 gotcha documentation.
Ciao,

David A. Bandel
Phewww!! I could breathe again at last: Many thanks.


Another helpful doc, although a little bit dated, is
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt.
However, just now, I'm gettin Connection Refused errors. Anyone else?
Same in Old Europe.
BTW, I don't find anything under the obove mentioned url 
http://linuxbooks ... as well, only a blank page in mozilla.
Klaus

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Re: gentoo stage 2 question

2003-07-27 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/26/03 22:56, Myles Green wrote:

On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 23:16, Net Llama! wrote:

On 07/26/03 21:24, Myles Green wrote:

But... I have an ISO image here of 1.4rc4 with stage 1, 2  3 tarballs
contained within. If you start with a stage 1 tarball you must still
build the system (stage one is just the packages needed to bootstrap the
system) by going through stage 2 and stage three (as in once you are
done you are at the same state you'd be in if you'd chosen a stage 2 [or
stage 3] tarball).
What error(s) did you get Llama?
I wish i knew.  They must have been buried several thousand lines back, 
beyond the scrollback buffer.


Obviously not a show-stopper if it continued. Was this during the
bootstrap process? If it was, it *may* cause a problem later on.
I'm assuming that the bootstrap process is stage1.  If so, then no, this 
was during the stage 2 build process.

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Re: gentoo stage 2 question

2003-07-27 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:12:47 -0700
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 07/26/03 20:06, Collins Richey wrote:
 
  On 26 Jul 2003 19:18:26 -0500
  Tom Jandl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 10:32, Net Llama! wrote:
 
 I finally bit the bullet, and decided to give Gentoo a whirl.  I
 opted to build everything from scratch.  Stage1 went fine, however
 Stage2 completed 1 with one error, however I can't figure out what
 that error is.  
  
  
  My failure to read carefully enough.  If you install gentoo from
  Stage 1, you don't need Stage 2 or Stage 3.  Stage 2/3 are
  alternative install packages that save you some compiles.
 
 Hrmmm.  THat's not what the documentation on gentoo's website
 suggests.  My reading of their dox indicate that stage 1 compiles the
 basic tools of the OS (glibc, binutils, gcc, and a few others)  from
 source, and stage 2 then compiles just about everything else.  Am i
 missing something obvious here?
 

Here's the relevent section from the install guide

Now, let us quickly review the install process. First, we will download,
burn and boot a LiveCD. After getting a root prompt, we will create
partitions, create our filesystems, and extract either a stage1, stage2
or stage3 tarball. If we are using a stage1 or stage2 tarball, we will
take the appropriate steps to get our system to stage3. Once our system
is at stage3, we can configure it (customize configuration files,
install a boot loader, etc) and boot it and have a fully-functional
Gentoo Linux system. 

Depending on what stage of the build process you're
starting from, here is what is required for installation: 

stage tarball   requirements for installation 
1 partition/filesystem setup, emerge sync,
   bootstrap, emerge system, emerge kernel
   sources, final configuration
2partition/filesystem setup, emerge sync, emerge
  system, emerge kernel sources, final
  configuration 
3partition/filesystem setup, emerge sync, final 
  configuration

As you can see, the activities are different to get to the same point. 
Starting from  stage 1, you have to go through all the activities.  
Starting from stage 2 you omit the bootstrap process.  Starting from
stage 3, you have a runnable system immediately with the standard
optimizations from the tarball you selected.

Back to Tom's point earlier, emerge sync, emerge -p system.  If anything
shows up needing upgrade, emerge system.  Continue with the process.  As
I said earlier, if the error is in the update info section of emerge, it
will most likely disappear later.  Portage is a work in progress, so
there will be glitches from time to time.

Watch closely for errors.  It is also possible that some package that
was presumed to be stable really didn't have enough testing to prove its
stability in all situations.

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Re: gentoo stage 2 question

2003-07-27 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Gentoo has three stages - basically starting points.  Stage 1 is real basic 
- it gives you a base system, enough to create a system and then proceed 
on. Yes, stage 1 is a bootstrap process. Stage 2 and 3 tarballs have more 
stuff compiled in them so you loose optimizations but you have a more 
complete system.

If you start from stage 1 you have to do what is essentially stage 2 and 3 
but you don't use the tarballs - you just emerge system and then emerge 
world which gives you stage 2 and 3.

Net Llama! wrote:

 On 07/26/03 22:56, Myles Green wrote:
 
 On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 23:16, Net Llama! wrote:
 
On 07/26/03 21:24, Myles Green wrote:

 bootstrap process? If it was, it *may* cause a problem later on.
 
 I'm assuming that the bootstrap process is stage1.  If so, then no, this
 was during the stage 2 build process.
 

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Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc

2003-07-27 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Kurt Wall wrote:

Quoth Klaus-Peter Schrage:
 

Kurt Wall schrieb:
   

Quoth Keith Antoine:

 

On Saturday 26 July 2003 05:35 pm, David A. Bandel wrote:

   

Might try http://linuxbooks.pananix.com/kernel2.6.html for my stab at
2.6 gotcha documentation.
Ciao,

David A. Bandel
 

Phewww!! I could breathe again at last: Many thanks.
   

Another helpful doc, although a little bit dated, is
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt.
However, just now, I'm gettin Connection Refused errors. Anyone else?
 

I was able to get it from kernel.org 
(ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/davej/misc/post-halloweeen-2.5.txt)

 

Same in Old Europe.
   



 

BTW, I don't find anything under the obove mentioned url 
http://linuxbooks ... as well, only a blank page in mozilla.
Klaus
   

Works here using Firebird 0.6 and Mozilla 1.4

$ mozilla -v
Mozilla 1.4, Copyright (c) 2003 mozilla.org, build 2003062407
$ MozillaFirebird -v
Mozilla 1.5a, Copyright (c) 2003 mozilla.org, build 2003070308
 

It didn't work using moz 1.3.1, now it does with 1.4, thanks
Klaus
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[OT] Congrats

2003-07-27 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
... to all Americans on this list for Lance Armstrong's fifth Tour de 
France victory.
I hope you know what I'm talking about - cycling doesn't seem to be very 
popular in the US, in spite of Lance.
For me, the TdF is the sports event of the year.
Klaus

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Re: [OT] Congrats

2003-07-27 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/27/03 09:11, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:

... to all Americans on this list for Lance Armstrong's fifth Tour de 
France victory.
I hope you know what I'm talking about - cycling doesn't seem to be very 
popular in the US, in spite of Lance.
For me, the TdF is the sports event of the year.
thanks.  For some reason that i don't honestly understand either, only team 
sports seem to have widespread appeal in the US (with the notable exception 
of Soccer/Football).

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Re: [OT] Congrats

2003-07-27 Thread Ken Moffat
Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:

... to all Americans on this list for Lance Armstrong's fifth Tour de 
France victory.
I hope you know what I'm talking about - cycling doesn't seem to be 
very popular in the US, in spite of Lance.
For me, the TdF is the sports event of the year.
Klaus

Did you see the ride yesterday on that wet course? Or a few days ago 
when the rider fell and broke 3 bones? Quite an event. This is the first 
time I've watched a lot of it. I never thoght of cycling as that 
dangerous. Quite an event. Armstrong is quite an athlete. (as are they all).

Ken.

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Re: [OT] Congrats

2003-07-27 Thread Ted Ozolins
Ken Moffat wrote:
Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:

... to all Americans on this list for Lance Armstrong's fifth Tour de 
France victory.
I hope you know what I'm talking about - cycling doesn't seem to be 
very popular in the US, in spite of Lance.
For me, the TdF is the sports event of the year.
Klaus

Did you see the ride yesterday on that wet course? Or a few days ago 
when the rider fell and broke 3 bones? Quite an event. This is the first 
time I've watched a lot of it. I never thoght of cycling as that 
dangerous. Quite an event. Armstrong is quite an athlete. (as are they 
all).

Ken.
In the Kelowna to Penticton area, we have quite a few events involving 
cycling. One of the events, ski to sea, is a relay race that starts off 
as a downhill ski then cross-country ski - mountain-bike - track-bike 
- canoe to finish. As a ham, I volunteer during these events (ski-sea 
we fuild about 100 to 120 operators) All along the course-route they 
have ambulances  staged at what is deemed as danger points. Each year 
they have had to pickup and transport cyclist for medical attention. 
Some of these misshaps are real eye-openers as I never at one time 
thought that cycling could be that dangerous.

Lance has demonstrated throughout the race the courage and dedication to 
a sport (as you have pointed out here) that isn't all that popular or 
even well known in the US. This in my view makes his victory that much 
more meaningful. He has every reason to be proud, and all of you south 
of the 49th have every reason to be proud of him. Congrats...

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Re: gentoo stage 2 question

2003-07-27 Thread Federico Voges
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:16:48 -0700, Net Llama! wrote:

On 07/26/03 21:24, Myles Green wrote:
 But... I have an ISO image here of 1.4rc4 with stage 1, 2  3 tarballs
 contained within. If you start with a stage 1 tarball you must still
 build the system (stage one is just the packages needed to bootstrap the
 system) by going through stage 2 and stage three (as in once you are
 done you are at the same state you'd be in if you'd chosen a stage 2 [or
 stage 3] tarball).
 
 What error(s) did you get Llama?

I wish i knew.  They must have been buried several thousand lines back, 
beyond the scrollback buffer.

Check /var/log/emerge.log ;)


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Re: [OT] Congrats

2003-07-27 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Ken Moffat wrote:

Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:

... to all Americans on this list for Lance Armstrong's fifth Tour de 
France victory.
I hope you know what I'm talking about - cycling doesn't seem to be 
very popular in the US, in spite of Lance.
For me, the TdF is the sports event of the year.
Klaus

Did you see the ride yesterday on that wet course? Or a few days ago 
when the rider fell and broke 3 bones? Quite an event. This is the 
first time I've watched a lot of it. I never thoght of cycling as that 
dangerous. Quite an event. Armstrong is quite an athlete. (as are they 
all).

Ken.
I'm full of admiration for those guys. Some years ago, I did one of 
those notorious mountains of the Tour, the Mont Ventoux, on a road bike. 
It takes those riders about one hour to get up to the summit, and it 
took me the whole afternoon ...
Klaus

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Re: [OT] Congrats

2003-07-27 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Klaus-Peter Schrage:
 ... to all Americans on this list for Lance Armstrong's fifth Tour de 
 France victory.

The guy's incredible. 

 I hope you know what I'm talking about - cycling doesn't seem to be very 
 popular in the US, in spite of Lance.
 For me, the TdF is the sports event of the year.

Thanks, Klaus.

Kurt
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Re: [OT] Congrats

2003-07-27 Thread ronnie gauthier
I guess wet corners can be a bitch.

On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 18:11:19 +0200 - Klaus-Peter Schrage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote the following
Re: [OT] Congrats

... to all Americans on this list for Lance Armstrong's fifth Tour de 
France victory.
I hope you know what I'm talking about - cycling doesn't seem to be very 
popular in the US, in spite of Lance.
For me, the TdF is the sports event of the year.
Klaus

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Re: [OT] Congrats

2003-07-27 Thread Rob E.
I think you may have meant to write ... to all Americans on this list for
Lance Armstrong's fifth CONSECUTIVE Tour de France victory.  It was the
best ever IMHO.  I really feel for Jan Ullrich as he was setting a very
strong pace during yesterday's time trials ... when his accident happened.
It would have made the final stage a bit more interesting and nerve racking.
but it wasn't to be.  Ullrich deserves a very big hand of applause, as well
as the Kazakstan fellow (Kironourov ?sp?) and, of course, Tyler Hamilton
with his great effort under physical duress.  Just a fabulous race overall
... anything could happen and, seemingly, did when most unexpected.

Next year's race is even going to be more interesting I think.

Rob E.

- Original Message -
From: Klaus-Peter Schrage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:11 PM
Subject: [OT] Congrats


 ... to all Americans on this list for Lance Armstrong's fifth Tour de
 France victory.
 I hope you know what I'm talking about - cycling doesn't seem to be very
 popular in the US, in spite of Lance.
 For me, the TdF is the sports event of the year.
 Klaus

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Re: [OT] Congrats

2003-07-27 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Rob E. wrote:

I think you may have meant to write ... to all Americans on this list for
Lance Armstrong's fifth CONSECUTIVE Tour de France victory.  It was the
best ever IMHO.  I really feel for Jan Ullrich as he was setting a very
strong pace during yesterday's time trials ... when his accident happened.
It would have made the final stage a bit more interesting and nerve racking.
but it wasn't to be.  Ullrich deserves a very big hand of applause, as well
as the Kazakstan fellow (Kironourov ?sp?) and, of course, Tyler Hamilton
with his great effort under physical duress.  Just a fabulous race overall
... anything could happen and, seemingly, did when most unexpected.
Next year's race is even going to be more interesting I think.

 

I don't want to underestimate Lance's performance, up to today, there 
have only been four riders to win the Tour five times. But as far as I 
remember, he's not the only one with five consecutive victories: Miguel 
Indurain did this as well.
Klaus

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Re: SCO Binaries (Was: DSL Gotcha...)

2003-07-27 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Ben Duncan:
 Ok, having worked for a Telco for 3 years (Their Motto :
 All the Finest School our Techs can attend), I feel I can throw
 a little light on this as well.

[useful info snipped]

 Ok now on to the new thread:
 
 Need help on running SCO Binaries on LINUX on the latest kernel. Anyone hav 
 any
 luck getting Linux-abi to work? Currently the test Box is running OpenLinux 
 1.3 with
 iBcs running on it, and it works, but I would (for this Project) like to go 
 to the
 latest stuff.

IANAL, but this sounds like the sort of thing that will bring down
SCO's lawyers on you. Moreover, at the risk of offending you, I'm just 
not interested in helping anyone run anything that belongs to SCO.
Finally, I don't believe that iBCS has been carried forward in newer
versions of the kernel, but it has been so long since I had to do
_anything_ like that that I don't really know if it still works.

Kurt
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Re: SCO Binaries (Was: DSL Gotcha...)

2003-07-27 Thread Ben Duncan
Normally, I would agree here, but I cannot see this client spending
25K USD just because thats what the local VAR for this particular
software wants - and thats just the COBOL runtime and moving
 the applications over.
Anyway, I say Bring 'em on!!!. The solution here is, no less, a
COL 1.3 OpenLinux. It has the iBcs, but has new enuff stuff to
be usable, but old enuff to be outta their (SCO's) IP loop.
Kurt Wall wrote:
Quoth Ben Duncan:

IANAL, but this sounds like the sort of thing that will bring down
SCO's lawyers on you. Moreover, at the risk of offending you, I'm just 
not interested in helping anyone run anything that belongs to SCO.
Finally, I don't believe that iBCS has been carried forward in newer
versions of the kernel, but it has been so long since I had to do
_anything_ like that that I don't really know if it still works.

Kurt
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Re: [OT] Congrats

2003-07-27 Thread Rob E.
Klaus -

How right you are!  That's kind of why I wanted to point that out as that is
quite a feat by both individuals, Indurain and Armstrong.  Miguel Indurain
was a great one!  One other fellow has won it six (6) times, but not
consecutively.

That's why I wonder about next year ...  will Lance seek a go at a sixth one
or pass on it?  There are many younger, stronger ones coming along.  Lance
is incredible, but we all realize that with age comes ... a small loss of
our physical strength and endurance - however, experience can be the edge.
Jan Ullrich amazed me in watching him so much that he never really left his
seat while pumping away on those mountain climbs.  He's a big fellow by
average standards compared to most of the riders ... he is damn good as many
of the others are too ... watch out for the Spainard duo ... aaah, it was
just a great TdF ...

Again, that's why I say Next year's race is going to be more interesting I
think.

Rob E.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:17 PM
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 Rob E. wrote:

 I think you may have meant to write ... to all Americans on this list
for
 Lance Armstrong's fifth CONSECUTIVE Tour de France victory.  It was the
 best ever IMHO.  I really feel for Jan Ullrich as he was setting a very
 strong pace during yesterday's time trials ... when his accident
happened.
 It would have made the final stage a bit more interesting and nerve
racking.
 but it wasn't to be.  Ullrich deserves a very big hand of applause, as
well
 as the Kazakstan fellow (Kironourov ?sp?) and, of course, Tyler Hamilton
 with his great effort under physical duress.  Just a fabulous race
overall
 ... anything could happen and, seemingly, did when most unexpected.
 
 Next year's race is even going to be more interesting I think.
 
 
 
 I don't want to underestimate Lance's performance, up to today, there
 have only been four riders to win the Tour five times. But as far as I
 remember, he's not the only one with five consecutive victories: Miguel
 Indurain did this as well.
 Klaus


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Re: SCO Binaries (Was: DSL Gotcha...)

2003-07-27 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Ben Duncan:
 Normally, I would agree here, but I cannot see this client spending
 25K USD just because thats what the local VAR for this particular
 software wants - and thats just the COBOL runtime and moving
  the applications over.

Yow. Not a bad deal. Doesn't the Kompany have a COBOL implementation
for Linux?

 Anyway, I say Bring 'em on!!!. The solution here is, no less, a
 COL 1.3 OpenLinux. It has the iBcs, but has new enuff stuff to
 be usable, but old enuff to be outta their (SCO's) IP loop.

Yup - SCO are welcome to extort a license fee from me if

1) Darl McBride personally shows up at my door to collect
2) He survives the blast 

Kurt
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Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc

2003-07-27 Thread Keith Antoine
On Sunday 27 July 2003 09:57 am, Kurt Wall wrote:

 I was able to get it from kernel.org
 (ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/davej/misc/post-halloweeen-2.
5.txt)

When I tried this URL it came back saying no such file is avaiable. So I tried
the local mirror and got it from there.
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/linux/kernel/people/davej/misc/post-halloweeen-2.5.txt
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Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc

2003-07-27 Thread David A. Bandel
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:57:03 -0400
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
 
 David, would you like to submit this as an SxS?
 

Feel free to use it (I put the conditions for use at the bottom). 
However, the document on my site will be maintained (upgraded, improved,
etc.).

Ciao,

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Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc

2003-07-27 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth David A. Bandel:
 On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:57:03 -0400
 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [snip]
  
  David, would you like to submit this as an SxS?
  
 
 Feel free to use it (I put the conditions for use at the bottom). 

I read that, but the implications failed to register. I must have
had some PAGE_STUPID swapped in.

 However, the document on my site will be maintained (upgraded, improved,
 etc.).

Well, I think I'll pass then. We have enough trouble with links going
stale and material going out of date as it is, and I can't commit to 
keeping a SxS-hosted copy of your document up to date.

Thanks anyway,

Kurt
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Re: [OT] Congrats

2003-07-27 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:17:09 -0700
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:

On 07/27/03 09:11, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:

 ... to all Americans on this list for Lance Armstrong's fifth Tour de 
 France victory.
 I hope you know what I'm talking about - cycling doesn't seem to be very 
 popular in the US, in spite of Lance.
 For me, the TdF is the sports event of the year.

thanks.  For some reason that i don't honestly understand either, only team 
sports seem to have widespread appeal in the US
===
Though tennis and golf seem to attract large followings, especially when
charasmatic individuals come to the forefront (e.g., Tiger Woods).  And how
`bout boxing.  Has there ever been a more famous/well known athlete than
Muhammad Ali?
Mike

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Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc

2003-07-27 Thread Ben Duncan
Um, myself, still waiting for the BANDEL branded distro on
your site,
David A. Bandel wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:57:03 -0400
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
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Re: [OT] Congrats

2003-07-27 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/27/03 17:38, Michael Scottaline wrote:
===
Though tennis and golf seem to attract large followings, especially when
charasmatic individuals come to the forefront (e.g., Tiger Woods).  And how
`bout boxing.  Has there ever been a more famous/well known athlete than
Muhammad Ali?
I wouldn't consider any of those to have widespread appeal.  They have 
groups of hardcore fans, but nothing like Baseball or Basketball.  And as 
for famous  well known boxers, Mike Tyson seems to be internatinoally 
infamous.

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Re: [OT] Congrats

2003-07-27 Thread Ken Moffat
Net Llama! wrote:

  And as for famous  well known boxers, Mike Tyson seems to be 
internatinoally infamous.

I hate the fact that (American?) people almost invariably put a huge 
price on the most outrageous among us.



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Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc

2003-07-27 Thread David A. Bandel
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:52:22 -0500
Ben Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Um, myself, still waiting for the BANDEL branded distro on
 your site,

Actually, I had one.  I called it Chiriqui Linux.  However, the KNOPPIX
folks did a much better job and I have no time to maintain it.  (It,
too, was a CD-ROM-based distro.)

Ciao,

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Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc

2003-07-27 Thread Collins Richey
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:17:54 -0400
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quoth David A. Bandel:
  On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:57:03 -0400
  Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  [snip]
   
   David, would you like to submit this as an SxS?
   
  
  Feel free to use it (I put the conditions for use at the bottom). 
 
 I read that, but the implications failed to register. I must have
 had some PAGE_STUPID swapped in.
 
  However, the document on my site will be maintained (upgraded,
  improved, etc.).
 
 Well, I think I'll pass then. We have enough trouble with links going
 stale and material going out of date as it is, and I can't commit to 
 keeping a SxS-hosted copy of your document up to date.
 

Why not just create an SxS that contains a link to David's site?  That
way those who are searching the SxS will have this valuable link and you
shouldn't have any additional updates to make.

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Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc

2003-07-27 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/27/03 19:59, Collins Richey wrote:

On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:17:54 -0400
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I think I'll pass then. We have enough trouble with links going
stale and material going out of date as it is, and I can't commit to 
keeping a SxS-hosted copy of your document up to date.



Why not just create an SxS that contains a link to David's site?  That
way those who are searching the SxS will have this valuable link and you
shouldn't have any additional updates to make.
Because the SxS policy is to host unique content.  Linking to or mirroring 
of external content just dilutes the SxS.

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Using XFCE 4... What can I turn off to make it faster

2003-07-27 Thread James McDonald
Hi All,

I have just moved to using XFCE4 since I was getting tired of waiting for
KDE apps to launch on my PIII 600 Box. It has sped things up considerably
but I would like to know if anyone has any pointers on improving
performance on Linux boxes...

I have

Mandrake 9.1
2.4.21 kernel
XFCE4
PIII 600/512MB RAM
it is running Apache 2.x and Postfix and squirrel mail.

Actually can anyone point me to a book on performance tuning.

Also I noticed that Keith(Antoine) is back online what was the story
behind your disappearence?.. everyone was worried about you.

James McDonald
Systems Engineer
Singleton NSW Australia
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Re: Using XFCE 4... What can I turn off to make it faster

2003-07-27 Thread Jerry McBride

Hi James.

I use XFCE 4 on a number of laptops and what has helped me most is running 
prelink over the install. This is done on GENTOO, but I would assume that 
prelink can be found on the net somewhere and used on your Mandrake as well.

Cheers.


On Monday 28 July 2003 12:34 am, James McDonald wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have just moved to using XFCE4 since I was getting tired of waiting for
 KDE apps to launch on my PIII 600 Box. It has sped things up considerably
 but I would like to know if anyone has any pointers on improving
 performance on Linux boxes...

 I have

 Mandrake 9.1
 2.4.21 kernel
 XFCE4
 PIII 600/512MB RAM
 it is running Apache 2.x and Postfix and squirrel mail.

 Actually can anyone point me to a book on performance tuning.

 Also I noticed that Keith(Antoine) is back online what was the story
 behind your disappearence?.. everyone was worried about you.

 James McDonald
 Systems Engineer
 Singleton NSW Australia
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