Re: OT Can't believe it but its true: Visual basic can't sort
I find this incredible. Well, back to work. I guess I'll use a bubble sort. I won't be sorting more than 50 items at a time. Seeing as you mentioned it would it be ok if you send me links to the different sorting methods you mentioned I do a lot of VBA myself and always make a complete Code Jungle out of sorting stuff. I am not a creator when it comes to code I work best by example... Regards James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton NSW Australia ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: trying to compile 2.6 kernel
do a locate *.pc and add each directory that contains pc files to your PKG_CONFIG_PATH I had the same trouble until I added the /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig to it... PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig Keith, What is the output from the following: locate .pc rpm -q pango rpm -q atk rpm -q glib I tried to use gconfig last night and it failed miserably too Keith I tried to do the same install stuff and got the dependency night mare aswell. BUT... make xconfig (which launches the QT interface worked fine). So if your not biased against KDE/AT then just use that. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: trying to compile 2.6 kernel
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:13 pm, Net Llama! wrote: Out puts as follows, guess that I have to install atk and glib. Had problems with rpms and mandrake if its not .mdk rpm its refused so will try as tarballs Keith, What is the output from the following: locate .pc Huge output 99% from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ etc then from /usr/src kernels rpm -q pango pango-1.2.1-1mdk rpm -q atk Not installed rpm -q glib Not installed thanks! Since I did the lookups I have managed to install both missing progs. But it still tells me; * * Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that * the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed... * You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0. * make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/.tmp_gtkcheck] Error 1 make: *** [scripts/kconfig/gconf] Error 2 also: [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.0-test1]# rpm -q gtk+2.0 gtk+2.0-2.2.2-4mdk and [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.0-test1]# rpm -q glib glib-1.3.15-1 libglade is now install also but same result. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: trying to compile 2.6 kernel
Since I did the lookups I have managed to install both missing progs. But it still tells me; * * Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that * the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed... * You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0. * make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/.tmp_gtkcheck] Error 1 make: *** [scripts/kconfig/gconf] Error 2 also: [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.0-test1]# rpm -q gtk+2.0 gtk+2.0-2.2.2-4mdk and [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.0-test1]# rpm -q glib glib-1.3.15-1 libglade is now install also but same result. KEITH install libglade2-devel Mine had that exact error aswell and after Installed the devel package I finally got the gtk interface YE HAR! It's on CD3 of the Mandrake distributions CDs Also I found the code that does the check for the right environment pkg-config gtk+-2.0 exists echo $? pkg-config gmodule-2.0 --exists echo $? pkg-config libglade-2.0 --exists echo $? The echo should be zero if you have the package. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Can't believe it but its true: Visual basic can't sort
Just do a goggle: sort vba It will get you all the links you want. Here is the one I happened to to use. A bubble sort. Very simple and fast enuf for what I need. http://chrisrae.com/vba/routines.html Another thing I can't believe is the fact that multidimensional arrays are so bad in visual basic that the book on VB 6.0 from Microsoft says don't even bother to use them, just use single dimensional arrays with array variables. Joel On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 04:30:49PM +1000, James McDonald wrote: I find this incredible. Well, back to work. I guess I'll use a bubble sort. I won't be sorting more than 50 items at a time. Seeing as you mentioned it would it be ok if you send me links to the different sorting methods you mentioned I do a lot of VBA myself and always make a complete Code Jungle out of sorting stuff. I am not a creator when it comes to code I work best by example... Regards James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton NSW Australia ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
UltraMonkey LVS
Hello, Does anyone have experience and or an opinion about the UltraMonkey they would like to share? Is it generally agreed in the community that LVS is the way to go for large volume websites? Any nice advice or nice comments are appreciated. Thank You. Shannon ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: pcmcia on Suse 8.0
On 28 Jul 2003 22:50:24 -0600 Ralph Sanford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 22:02, Net Llama! wrote: On 07/28/03 19:53, Rick Sivernell wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:59:40 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quoth Rick Sivernell: | Suse users neededg | |Got myself a copy of suse 8.0 pro. most evertything is working ok, | but not ifconfig. This was a full fresh install over Caldera 3.1.1. | Now cardctl status ident and config is proper as it should be. pcmcia | start says it is ok but when I do ifconfig all I get is lo setup and | running. it seems to be about one step away from complete. I set | everythoing per Yast2, but that failed to set | /etc/pcmcia/network.opts at all. I fixed that, Not sure what to do | next here. | DEP Suse Installed lilo, I did find a acpi=y set it to off and rebooted. no joy. I have found that the system is using axnet_ca it should be pcnet_cs. Can not find where to change it at. Found it on the last line of dmesg. boot fine and acts as if pcmcia is ready, dongle has all lights bright, cardctl says it is good and it finds the proper card Linksys pcmpc 100. just no ifconfig for pcmcia. I think the pcmcia modules are defined somewhere like /etc/pcmcia/pcmcia.opts. grep through /etc/pcmcia, assuming that SuSE puts their pcmcia stuff in there. Try /etc/pcmcia/config or /etc/pcmcia/wlan-ng.conf Find your card and see what SuSE has bound it to. If SuSE shows it as bind axnet_cs then change it to read bind pcnet_cs Hope this helps. -- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - should you trust your government? DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Ralph I have not found where the axnet_cs is loaded. I have tried all suggestions and do appreciate the help. I am stepping back and see what I can do next. -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
WinInfo Site... interesting
Found this on wininformant.com and found the StarWars reference amusing... Who won that war??? Microsoft Announces Quarterly Earning. Yeah, They Still Rule the Earth Microsoft's quarterly earnings announcements are becoming rote descriptions of a company dominating its industry. (Destroyed Alderaan? Check. Sending scouts to Dantooine to search for rebel base? Check.) However, this month held a few surprises. The company reported revenues of $7.25 billion, an 11 percent gain, year-over-year, and operating income of $2.19 billion after a charge of $796 million for its settlement with AOL Time Warner; last year, it was $2.87 billion. In short, they make a lot of money but, interestingly, the company actually missed analysts' estimates by a small margin. But what's really interesting is that Microsoft now breaks down its earnings by product group. And sadly, for the company's detractors, all of those groups had higher-than-expected earnings. The server division, for example, saw revenues jump 17 percent thanks largely to Windows Server and SQL Server revenues. MSN had record revenues, growing 25 percent. And even the Home and Entertainment division, which handles the Xbox, experienced 8 percent growth, with Microsoft's game console reaching 9.4 users worldwide' the company now expects the Xbox to hit sales of about 15 million by next June. Business outlook, as usual, was predictable. (Closing in on Yavin's fourth moon? Check.) -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems * Network Service Appliances * Network Consulting, Integration Support * Web Integration and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: UltraMonkey LVS
On 07/29/03 05:55, Shannon Scott wrote: Hello, Does anyone have experience and or an opinion about the UltraMonkey they would like to share? Is it generally agreed in the community that LVS is the way to go for large volume websites? Any nice advice or nice comments are appreciated. Does LVS = UltraMonkey? I didn't think it did. At any rate, i used ultramonkey a little about 2 years ago, and found it to be pretty good. Haven't had a need for it since then though. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:05am up 14 days, 8:48, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.25, 0.15 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: pcmcia on Suse 8.0
On 07/29/03 05:44, Rick Sivernell wrote: On 28 Jul 2003 22:50:24 -0600 Ralph Sanford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 22:02, Net Llama! wrote: quoth Rick Sivernell: | Suse users neededg | |Got myself a copy of suse 8.0 pro. most evertything is working ok, | but not ifconfig. This was a full fresh install over Caldera 3.1.1. | Now cardctl status ident and config is proper as it should be. pcmcia | start says it is ok but when I do ifconfig all I get is lo setup and | running. it seems to be about one step away from complete. I set | everythoing per Yast2, but that failed to set | /etc/pcmcia/network.opts at all. I fixed that, Not sure what to do | next here. | DEP Suse Installed lilo, I did find a acpi=y set it to off and rebooted. no joy. I have found that the system is using axnet_ca it should be pcnet_cs. Can not find where to change it at. Found it on the last line of dmesg. boot fine and acts as if pcmcia is ready, dongle has all lights bright, cardctl says it is good and it finds the proper card Linksys pcmpc 100. just no ifconfig for pcmcia. I think the pcmcia modules are defined somewhere like /etc/pcmcia/pcmcia.opts. grep through /etc/pcmcia, assuming that SuSE puts their pcmcia stuff in there. Try /etc/pcmcia/config or /etc/pcmcia/wlan-ng.conf Find your card and see what SuSE has bound it to. If SuSE shows it as bind axnet_cs then change it to read bind pcnet_cs Ralph I have not found where the axnet_cs is loaded. I have tried all suggestions and do appreciate the help. I am stepping back and see what I can do next. So what do you get from: grep -r axnet * when run from inside of /etc/pcmcia ? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:05am up 14 days, 8:48, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.25, 0.15 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: UltraMonkey LVS
UltraMonkey in an LVS implementation I believe. - Original Message - From: Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: Re: UltraMonkey LVS On 07/29/03 05:55, Shannon Scott wrote: Hello, Does anyone have experience and or an opinion about the UltraMonkey they would like to share? Is it generally agreed in the community that LVS is the way to go for large volume websites? Any nice advice or nice comments are appreciated. Does LVS = UltraMonkey? I didn't think it did. At any rate, i used ultramonkey a little about 2 years ago, and found it to be pretty good. Haven't had a need for it since then though. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:05am up 14 days, 8:48, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.25, 0.15 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WinInfo Site... interesting
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:09:17 -0400 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found this on wininformant.com and found the StarWars reference amusing... Who won that war??? Microsoft Announces Quarterly Earning. Yeah, They Still Rule the Earth Microsoft's quarterly earnings announcements are becoming rote descriptions of a company dominating its industry. (Destroyed Alderaan? Check. Sending scouts to Dantooine to search for rebel base? Check.) However, this month held a few surprises. The company reported revenues of $7.25 billion, an 11 percent gain, year-over-year, and operating income of $2.19 billion after a charge of $796 million for its settlement with AOL Time Warner; last year, it was $2.87 billion. In short, they make a lot of money but, interestingly, the company actually missed analysts' estimates by a small margin. But what's really interesting is that Microsoft now breaks down its earnings by product group. And sadly, for the company's detractors, all of those groups had higher-than-expected earnings. The server division, for example, saw revenues jump 17 percent thanks largely to Windows Server and SQL Server revenues. MSN had record revenues, growing 25 percent. And even the Home and Entertainment division, which handles the Xbox, experienced 8 percent growth, with Microsoft's game console reaching 9.4 users worldwide' the company now expects the Xbox to hit sales of about 15 million by next June. Business outlook, as usual, was predictable. (Closing in on Yavin's fourth moon? Check.) Increased earnings in server sales do not have to mean more servers. Many people in the upgrade loop had to do so, and prices went up as well. Xbox sales thus far seem to be 1/2 of what microsoft projected, and those mainly in the US. It seems Europe and Asia are buying elsewhere. So, that contest is far from over. Still, I wish they could find a way to make even more money. Just for the spectacle of it... -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: UltraMonkey LVS
Shannon Scott wrote: Is it generally agreed in the community that LVS is the way to go for large volume websites? Forgive my ignorance, but is LVS the Linux Virtual Server Project? http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/ Thanks. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Can't believe it but its true: Visual basic can't sort
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 07:00:26AM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: Just do a goggle: sort vba It will get you all the links you want. Here is the one I happened to to use. A bubble sort. Very simple and fast enuf for what I need. http://chrisrae.com/vba/routines.html Another thing I can't believe is the fact that multidimensional arrays are so bad in visual basic that the book on VB 6.0 from Microsoft says don't even bother to use them, just use single dimensional arrays with array variables. After all it is BASIC, and the ``B'' originally stood for ``Beginners''. The BASIC language was never intended to be anything but something to make it easy for first time students. ``It is practically impossible to teach good programming style to students that have had prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.'' -- Dijkstra As for sorting, it appears that things haven't changed much since my last programming effort on DOS in 1990 (which was only made possible when I found the elvis editor and a working version of perl that ran on DOS). I originally bought the MKS toolkit, largely because it had a working version of the Unix sort command. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.'' --Thomas Jefferson. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT devfs user request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 can someone using devfs send me the output of 'cat /proc/filesystems' ? thanks - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org My girlfriend told me I needed to be more loving. So now I have two girlfriends... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Jqnb2MO5UukaubkRAtG4AKCLax0FLTp7um3PfIMZ0O+9uTpMjwCdGw26 OECyK8zH4/7QTIv+tecw/7k= =BRFr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT devfs user request
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:07:39 -0400 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 can someone using devfs send me the output of 'cat /proc/filesystems' ? thanks bash-2.05b$ cat /proc/filesystems nodev rootfs nodev bdev nodev proc nodev sockfs nodev futexfs nodev tmpfs nodev shm nodev pipefs nodev binfmt_misc ext3 ext2 nodev ramfs umsdos msdos vfat iso9660 nodev devfs nodev nfs nodev smbfs ntfs nodev autofs nodev devpts nodev usbdevfs nodev usbfs -- Powered by GENTOO LINUX ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: trying to compile 2.6 kernel
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:00:05 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I'm always sad to hear about people experiencing dependancy hell. Fortunately for me, my distro isolates me from this problem. gconfig works just fine for me; any screwing about with pkgconfig must have been done under the covers. I gave up on the built in alsa, switched back to the(now deprecated) OSS support for my sound card, and for the moment at least I'm now running on 2.6.0-test1 you'll want to patch up to 2.6.0-test2, test1 has a nasty habit of locking up. Haven't had the problem with test2. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT devfs user request
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 19:07, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 can someone using devfs send me the output of 'cat /proc/filesystems' ? thanks nodev rootfs nodev bdev nodev proc nodev sockfs nodev tmpfs nodev shm nodev pipefs nodev binfmt_misc ext3 ext2 nodev ramfs msdos vfat iso9660 nodev devfs nodev nfs nodev autofs nodev devpts nodev usbdevfs nodev usbfs system: Linux oberholtzer.surbrunn.net 2.4.20-win4lin-r1 #6 Sun Jun 22 21:46:40 CEST 2003 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1400MHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux (a.k.a. Gentoo with Win4Lin support added in) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
TripWire on SuSE 8.2
Has anyone successfully installed Tripwire on SuSE 8.2? I was able to install the binary distribution, but when I try to run the tripwire --init it seg faults. I tried too compile tripwire from source, but this also generated all sorts of fun errors. Shawn ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT devfs user request
Here ya' go Doug. nodev rootfs nodev bdev nodev proc nodev sockfs nodev tmpfs nodev shm nodev pipefs nodev binfmt_misc ext3 nodev ramfs nodev devfs nodev usbdevfs nodev usbfs nodev smbfs vfat nodev shfs On Tuesday 29 July 2003 01:07 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 can someone using devfs send me the output of 'cat /proc/filesystems' ? thanks - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 http://doug.hunley.homeip.net http://www.linux-sxs.org My girlfriend told me I needed to be more loving. So now I have two girlfriends... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Jqnb2MO5UukaubkRAtG4AKCLax0FLTp7um3PfIMZ0O+9uTpMjwCdGw26 OECyK8zH4/7QTIv+tecw/7k= =BRFr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 4:17pm up 19 days, 2:15, 4 users, load average: 2.37, 1.55, 1.23 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT devfs user request
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:07:39 -0400 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 can someone using devfs send me the output of 'cat /proc/filesystems' ? thanks Doug, as you should know, this list will be a function of what's compiled into the kernel and loaded as modules (the list changes as say vfat is loaded then unloaded). Anything you're looking for in particular? Or is this just an informal survey of some sort? Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo stage 2 question
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No outdated packages were found on your system. * Regenerating GNU info directory index... * Processed 49 info files: 1 errors; run with emerge --verbose to view errors. * IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /etc need updating. * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. I see no errors in /var/log/emerge.log Every time I see this error, it is totally benign, and it goes away after some later emerges. You could search on gentoo forums or the gentoo-user list archive, if you want to know more. You do need to run etc-update to enable the 1 config file or modify your existing config file. Gentoo does not directly update config files in /etc and some other directories, which is a pretty good idea, because occasionally they offer to update fstab, etc., which would not be pretty. You should be ready to roll with X, etc., etc. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo stage 2 question
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No outdated packages were found on your system. * Regenerating GNU info directory index... * Processed 49 info files: 1 errors; run with emerge --verbose to view errors. If this is the error you are taking about, don't worry and just go on. Emerge gentoolkit to get the etc-update command to help with the config files. * IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /etc need updating. * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. -- Powered by GENTOO LINUX ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: trying to compile 2.6 kernel
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 04:34 pm, James McDonald wrote: I tried to use gconfig last night and it failed miserably too Keith I tried to do the same install stuff and got the dependency night mare aswell. BUT... make xconfig (which launches the QT interface worked fine). So if your not biased against KDE/AT then just use that. Its the challange that I love, even if I do not succeed. Thats was whole point in drawing me into Linux, now they are making it too difficult for the non tech software guy. I wnat to get gconfig to work to see if it is simpler than the other commands to handle, especially as compiling a kernel is now much more difficult if the documentation is lacking/poor. I was able to handle the very early 0.xx series kernels on command line, but they were time consuming, mainly due to low speed buses. Somewhere about the begining of the 2 series or slightly earlier, they got X/gui and xconfig, which made it all simpler. Also with the advent of faster proceeeors/buses it was a dream. Now they are giving us a massive information overload: I wonder sometimes if progress is worth the it, course I am locked into memories etc now and my learning curve is too steep. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
unable to compile with gconfig
Lonni, am unsure whether I gave you all the info. [EMAIL PROTECTED] kantoine]# rpm -q atk atk-1.2.4-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] kantoine]# rpm -q glib glib-1.3.15-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] kantoine]# rpm -q pango pango-1.2.1-1mdk locate .pc is massive in fact it runs the terminal window out of history. I have taken a tail of which the last 8 lines are relevant. The rest is all from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi... /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI18-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI18.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI24-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI24-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI24-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI24-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI24-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timI24.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR08-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR08-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR08-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR08-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR08-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR08.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR10-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR10-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR10-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR10-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR10.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR12-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR12-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR12-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR12-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR12.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR14-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR14-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR14-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR14-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR14-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR14.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR18-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR18-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR18-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR18-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR18-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR18.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR24-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR24-ISO8859-13.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR24-ISO8859-15.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR24-ISO8859-2.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR24-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR24.pcf.gz /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-0.13mdk/Documentation/isdn/README.pcbit /usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test1/Documentation/isdn/README.pcbit /backup/kantoine/.kde/share/cache/http/p/www.pcmag.com_images_shim.gif_6473d08e /backup/kantoine/.kde/share/cache/favicons/www.pclinuxonline.com_themes_pclinuxonline_images_favicon.png /backup/src/linux-2.4.21-0.13mdk/Documentation/isdn/README.pcbit /backup/src/linux-2.6.0-test1/Documentation/isdn/README.pcbit /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdk/modules.pcimap -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: trying to compile 2.6 kernel
Quoth Collins Richey: [2.6-testX] Interestingly enough, the emerge now does warn you about the input devices gotcha. Alan Cox posted some patches to return some sanity to the default config (giving you a console, making sure you have a keyboard), so I hope Linus picks these up for -test3. Kurt -- The chief danger in life is that you may take too may precautions. -- Alfred Adler ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo stage 2 question
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 17:09, Collins Richey wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No outdated packages were found on your system. * Regenerating GNU info directory index... * Processed 49 info files: 1 errors; run with emerge --verbose to view errors. * IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /etc need updating. * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files. I see no errors in /var/log/emerge.log Every time I see this error, it is totally benign, and it goes away after some later emerges. You could search on gentoo forums or the gentoo-user list archive, if you want to know more. You do need to run etc-update to enable the 1 config file or modify your existing config file. Gentoo does not directly update config files in /etc and some other directories, which is a pretty good idea, because occasionally they offer to update fstab, etc., which would not be pretty. You should be ready to roll with X, etc., etc. The info file error is insignificant, been getting the same here at times. Be careful of the automated update of etc-update, I totally horked one of my systems with it. Now I run a backup copy of /etc *before* ( if) I run it. Once bitten, twice shy. Usually I manually update the files so I know exactly what is being changed. Don't know what backfired, hope it was a once in a lifetime experience. Best of luck to you your new Gentoo system, Lonni! -- Tom Jandl Powered by GENTOO 1.4-RC4 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: trying to compile 2.6 kernel
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:40 pm, James McDonald wrote: James: Well ! KEITH install libglade2-devel Mine had that exact error aswell and after Installed the devel package I finally got the gtk interface YE HAR! It's on CD3 of the Mandrake distributions CDs Also I found the code that does the check for the right environment pkg-config gtk+-2.0 exists echo $? pkg-config gmodule-2.0 --exists echo $? pkg-config libglade-2.0 --exists echo $? The echo should be zero if you have the package. Did the above, should I get no return at all at the prompt ? That is what I am getting just a return prompt. Well at least my computer is stubborn and consistent: [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.0-test1]# make gconfig * * Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that * the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed... * You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0. * make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/.tmp_gtkcheck] Error 1 make: *** [scripts/kconfig/gconf] Error 2 This was after the install of libglade-2.0 ??? -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: gentoo stage 2 question
On 29 Jul 2003 19:24:51 -0500 Tom Jandl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be careful of the automated update of etc-update, I totally horked one of my systems with it. Now I run a backup copy of /etc *before* ( if) I run it. Yep, as you have discovered, the automated update feature (in the extended sense of bug) is like playing Russian roulette with six loaded chambers. Horking is guaranteed. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: trying to compile 2.6 kernel
On 07/29/03 17:49, Keith Antoine wrote: Well at least my computer is stubborn and consistent: [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.0-test1]# make gconfig * * Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that * the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed... * You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0. what do you get from the following commands: rpm -q gtk+ rpm -q libglade rpm -q glib -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:10pm up 14 days, 20:53, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
I am dissatisfied
I am after 2 years or so still dissatisfied with Mandarke/SuSe, in point of fact I have after spending much money given Suse away and am thinkink of doing the same with Mandrake. Mandrake is great but for one thing, installation of rpms through urpmi and all its inherant dependencies. If the rpm is not a mandrake compiled the it is fairly certain it will either reject it out of hand or the dependencies are an absolute menace. Now what I want is the old Caldera back and updated, but that is a pipe dream of course. So I have Redhat 9.0 (shrike) and also Slackware 9.0 on cd's. As I do not wish, as I have done in the past, start a flame war: Could I ask for some detatched and dispasionate thoughts on both of these, ease of install also how good are they seeing 100% of hardware installed, no real big gotchas. How arev they with tarball installs and also rpm's. How well do they stick to std program install no beta install or esoteric installs that need workrounds. I am sure that you all know what I want, I have not asked for any others as I know little re the rest. However feedback would be appreciated, again I ask no this is a great OS' without the reasons as to why. grin Now what have I started !! -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am dissatisfied
On 07/29/03 18:49, Keith Antoine wrote: I am after 2 years or so still dissatisfied with Mandarke/SuSe, in point of fact I have after spending much money given Suse away and am thinkink of doing the same with Mandrake. Mandrake is great but for one thing, installation of rpms through urpmi and all its inherant dependencies. If the rpm is not a mandrake compiled the it is fairly certain it will either reject it out of hand or the dependencies are an absolute menace. Now what I want is the old Caldera back and updated, but that is a pipe dream of course. So I have Redhat 9.0 (shrike) and also Slackware 9.0 on cd's. As I do not wish, as I have done in the past, start a flame war: Could I ask for some detatched and dispasionate thoughts on both of these, ease of install also how good are they seeing 100% of hardware installed, no real big gotchas. How arev they with tarball installs and also rpm's. How well do they stick to std program install no beta install or esoteric installs that need workrounds. I am sure that you all know what I want, I have not asked for any others as I know little re the rest. However feedback would be appreciated, again I ask no this is a great OS' without the reasons as to why. grin Now what have I started !! If you're looking for overall ease of use, with something that is somewhat familiar then Redhat is definitely the way to go. Slackware will be completely foreign to you, as RPMs are really not part of the picture, and there's the entire filesystem layout which differs from just about all the others too. I've been using RH9 on 2 laptops, and a workstation for about 3 months now, and have been quite pleased. And Redhat tends to have many more compatible RPMs than any other distro. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:50pm up 14 days, 21:33, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am dissatisfied
Keith Antoine wrote: So I have Redhat 9.0 (shrike) and also Slackware 9.0 on cd's. As I do not wish, as I have done in the past, start a flame war: Could I ask for some detatched and dispasionate thoughts on both of these, ease of install also how good are they seeing 100% of hardware installed, no real big gotchas. I made a decision about 1.5 years ago (upon realizing the death of Caldera was imminent) to spend my time learning only RH. I think it is the easiest distro to use simply because there is the most support for it. A great deal of the books you pick up will be written, if not exclusively, to a great extent for RH. Basically it just works. I've rarely had it not find all my hardware, even a fair amount that was not supposed to be supported yet (like a USB 2.0 card last year). There are excellent independent sites that compile RPMs of packages that RH forgot. Most commercial software has a pre-packaged RH version before anything else. It runs well on my ThinkPad 240Z (thanks DEP) not counting the WinModem. And, oh yes, the RH documentation is excellent. I can actually find answers. Or if not answers, at least know how to ask the question. I refer to their docs often. The BlueCurve GUI is controversial, but I think they have made a commendable attempt at something that badly needs doing - making the GUI consistent and usable for non-techies. Their RH Update service makes it painless to keep up with security updates. RH does occasionally do dumb things like include a 0.9x version of Mozilla (RH 7.3) and never update it to a production release. I wish it had some kind of decent LAN browser (aka Network Neighborhood). And I'll never get over the absence of Webmin and Caldera's control panel extensions. I know nothing of Slackware, as I've heard you have to be 3 meters tall, weighing 200 kilos with chest hair like an Amazon rain forest. That description doesn't fit me, so I don't even try. I wonder if we'll ever stop mourning for the once great Caldera (snif)? Best regards from Arkansas, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am dissatisfied
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 19:49, Keith Antoine wrote: I am after 2 years or so still dissatisfied with Mandarke/SuSe, in point of fact I have after spending much money given Suse away and am thinkink of doing the same with Mandrake. Mandrake is great but for one thing, installation of rpms through urpmi and all its inherant dependencies. If the rpm is not a mandrake compiled the it is fairly certain it will either reject it out of hand or the dependencies are an absolute menace. Now what I want is the old Caldera back and updated, but that is a pipe dream of course. So I have Redhat 9.0 (shrike) and also Slackware 9.0 on cd's. As I do not wish, as I have done in the past, start a flame war: Could I ask for some detatched and dispasionate thoughts on both of these, ease of install also how good are they seeing 100% of hardware installed, no real big gotchas. How arev they with tarball installs and also rpm's. How well do they stick to std program install no beta install or esoteric installs that need workrounds. I am sure that you all know what I want, I have not asked for any others as I know little re the rest. However feedback would be appreciated, again I ask no this is a great OS' without the reasons as to why. grin Now what have I started !! As much as I like and prefer to use Slackware for my own purposes (and reasons) I would recommend that you give RH 9.0 a go. I tried it out here and liked it because it detected and set up everything that was plugged in and/or turned on during the install - it even picks up newly attached or detached devices (at least on startup/reboot). You will likely need to find and install certain multimedia packages (mp3 players, video players, etc.) but, being Red Hat, the binaries are never far away or hard to find. There, not a flame to be seen ;o) HTH -- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
More Outlook and IE problems coming
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3107613.stm It never stops. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: trying to compile 2.6 kernel
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:49:54 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.0-test1]# make gconfig * * Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that * the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed... * You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0. * make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/.tmp_gtkcheck] Error 1 make: *** [scripts/kconfig/gconf] Error 2 This was after the install of libglade-2.0 ??? you must have the -devel packages installed. You don't, you only have the libraries. The header files are in the -devel packages. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am dissatisfied
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:49:27 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I am sure that you all know what I want, I have not asked for any others as I know little re the rest. However feedback would be appreciated, again I ask no this is a great OS' without the reasons as to why. grin Now what have I started !! For piece of mind, I'd suggest you go w/ RH. Slack's bootup system (BSD) will probably throw you a curve. What I would do is look for a program called apt-rpm. Debian's apt-get ported to rpm. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am dissatisfied
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:49:27 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote: I am after 2 years or so still dissatisfied with Mandarke/SuSe, in point of fact I have after spending much money given Suse away and am thinkink of doing the same with Mandrake. Mandrake is great but for one thing, installation of rpms through urpmi and all its inherant dependencies. If the rpm is not a mandrake compiled the it is fairly certain it will either reject it out of hand or the dependencies are an absolute menace. Now what I want is the old Caldera back and updated, but that is a pipe dream of course. So I have Redhat 9.0 (shrike) and also Slackware 9.0 on cd's. As I do not wish, as I have done in the past, start a flame war: Could I ask for some detatched and dispasionate thoughts on both of these, ease of install also how good are they seeing 100% of hardware installed, no real big gotchas. If you wan't a Caldera like distro, checkout Lycoris (formerly Redmond Linux). It's based on Caldera's LTP (it even uses Lizard). http://www.lycoris.com/ Bye! Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Tel/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 Malabia 2137 14 A e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C1425EZC) Buenos Aires Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar Argentina ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More Outlook and IE problems coming
On 07/29/03 19:29, Joel Hammer wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3107613.stm It never stops. that's strange, it never started for me. then again, i don't use M$ products. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 8:25pm up 14 days, 23:08, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.06, 0.09 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am dissatisfied
Myles Green wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 19:49, Keith Antoine wrote: I am after 2 years or so still dissatisfied with Mandarke/SuSe, in point of fact I have after spending much money given Suse away and am thinkink of doing the same with Mandrake. Mandrake is great but for one thing, installation of rpms through urpmi and all its inherant dependencies. If the rpm is not a mandrake compiled the it is fairly certain it will either reject it out of hand or the dependencies are an absolute menace. Now what I want is the old Caldera back and updated, but that is a pipe dream of course. So I have Redhat 9.0 (shrike) and also Slackware 9.0 on cd's. As I do not wish, as I have done in the past, start a flame war: Could I ask for some detatched and dispasionate thoughts on both of these, ease of install also how good are they seeing 100% of hardware installed, no real big gotchas. How arev they with tarball installs and also rpm's. How well do they stick to std program install no beta install or esoteric installs that need workrounds. I am sure that you all know what I want, I have not asked for any others as I know little re the rest. However feedback would be appreciated, again I ask no this is a great OS' without the reasons as to why. grin Now what have I started !! As much as I like and prefer to use Slackware for my own purposes (and reasons) I would recommend that you give RH 9.0 a go. I tried it out here and liked it because it detected and set up everything that was plugged in and/or turned on during the install - it even picks up newly attached or detached devices (at least on startup/reboot). You will likely need to find and install certain multimedia packages (mp3 players, video players, etc.) but, being Red Hat, the binaries are never far away or hard to find. There, not a flame to be seen ;o) HTH I would agree with Llama and Miles. For your purposes, RH would be the best choice. I ran a RH system for several months, and it was quite easy to use once I got used to a few RHisms. Slack is a great product, but you would need to put a lot more effort into it. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area 2.6.0-test1 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am dissatisfied
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:56 am, Net Llama! wrote: If you're looking for overall ease of use, with something that is somewhat familiar then Redhat is definitely the way to go. Slackware will be completely foreign to you, as RPMs are really not part of the picture, and there's the entire filesystem layout which differs from just about all the others too. I've been using RH9 on 2 laptops, and a workstation for about 3 months now, and have been quite pleased. And Redhat tends to have many more compatible RPMs than any other distro. Very early on in my love affair with Linux I started out as a ISP using Slackware: probably 0.8.x to 1.0x. I used that up to the time I got engaged with the original Caldera list and installed Calder 1.xx, maybe you may remember when I joined those years ago. However Slackware must have changed a great deal since that time as I have never gone back. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am dissatisfied
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:28 pm, Michael Hipp wrote: BIG SNIP RH does occasionally do dumb things like include a 0.9x version of Mozilla (RH 7.3) and never update it to a production release. I wish it had some kind of decent LAN browser (aka Network Neighborhood). And I'll never get over the absence of Webmin and Caldera's control panel extensions. That is why I asked to see if it has matured, as it certainly was a maverick for some time. I know nothing of Slackware, as I've heard you have to be 3 meters tall, weighing 200 kilos with chest hair like an Amazon rain forest. That description doesn't fit me, so I don't even try. I thank you for your observation, but am at a complete loss as to how you knew what I looked like these days. I wonder if we'll ever stop mourning for the once great Caldera (snif)? No I do not think so, especially as it was way ahead of its time, and like Amiga was rooted by its makers and put to an early grave. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am dissatisfied
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:28 pm, Myles Green wrote: There, not a flame to be seen ;o) HTH Isn't that nice, maybe because I asked the question instead of answering ? -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
