Re: SCO fizzles
On 08/24/03 13:02, Alma J Wetzker wrote: My guess is that they are not as involved as we would like to believe. Much as SCO's blathering is to the benefit of M$, I don't think they are orchestrating it. Sun is also a backer of SCO with _LOTS_ to lose if linux catches on. Remember that Caldera was birthed by a lawsuit with M$ over DR-DOS not working with Windoze. (They won for big bucks.) Sun is between a rock and a hard place right now, as they despise M$, yet fear Linux. They're not sure whether they want to fight a two fronted war at the moment, so they're riding the fence. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:25pm up 9 days, 4:52, 1 user, load average: 0.94, 0.73, 0.35 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WeLoveTheSCOInformationMinister
On 08/24/03 08:14, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Shannon Scott: Kurt, I received this message, but you sent it to someone else. How does that happen? Take Care Shannon I BCCed the linux-users mailing list when sending this message to my friend (I meant to CC the list). I have *no* idea what happened to the distribution list between my mail client and the linux-users mailing list, though. Wierd. It was stuck pending approval on the list until i approved it this morning. HTH. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:25pm up 9 days, 4:52, 1 user, load average: 0.94, 0.73, 0.35 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Email from 'Microsoft'
The sad thing is... there are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of PC users that will run the thing :-( On Sunday 24 August 2003 4:50 pm, someone claiming to be Brett I. Holcomb wrote: If you are crazy enough to run it G please let us know what it infects you with G. Ian Stephen wrote: Look what I just got, with an attachment patch.exe Microsoft must like me! (Now if I can only figure out how to get IE to run with Wine maybe I can use this patch ;-) pasted email From: Microsoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Use this patch immediately ! Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:30:35 -0600 (MDT) Dear friend , use this Internet Explorer patch now! There are dangerous virus in the Internet now! More than 500.000 already infected! /pasted email -- RedHat 8.0 Kernel 2.4.20-19.8, KDE 3.1.CVS, Xfree86 4.2.1 7:30pm up 2 days, 1:28, 1 user, load average: 0.22, 0.17, 0.08 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Network Card Driving Miss Daisy
Hi Folks, I have a small home network with the following setup. 8port Switch RH9 8139too NIC---10/100---VIA Embedded NIC WinXP I have absolutely hopeless data transfer both ways using samba and ftp. I can only get approx ~2.6MB/s max on a good day. running ethtool on the RH9 box shows that it is running at 100MB/s Full Duplex autoneg and the same on the Windows XP box. Setting both to 100MB/s FD doesn't help. Any suggestions why it's so damn slow or how to trouble-shoot the issue? -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton, NSW Australia 61+ 0428 320 219 (mob) 61+ (02)6570 1556 (bh) 61+ (02)6571 2401 (ah) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Email from 'Microsoft'
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:34:05 -0400 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sad thing is... there are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of PC users that will run the thing :-( And even sadder there are hundreds of thousands of users that are subject to the script kiddies of the world and who have no way of telling whether this is legitimate or not. And saddest of all, 99% of all vendors still support this crap and refuse to work with linux to make a safe and sound, easy to use product. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Network Card Driving Miss Daisy
On 08/24/03 16:48, James McDonald wrote: Hi Folks, I have a small home network with the following setup. 8port Switch RH9 8139too NIC---10/100---VIA Embedded NIC WinXP I have absolutely hopeless data transfer both ways using samba and ftp. I can only get approx ~2.6MB/s max on a good day. running ethtool on the RH9 box shows that it is running at 100MB/s Full Duplex autoneg and the same on the Windows XP box. Setting both to 100MB/s FD doesn't help. Any suggestions why it's so damn slow or how to trouble-shoot the issue? Any packet loss? Any errors in ifconfig output? Anything showing up in dmesg or messages? What does 'mii-tool eth0' show? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:50pm up 9 days, 5:17, 1 user, load average: 0.34, 0.25, 0.27 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Email from 'Microsoft'
On 08/24/03 17:00, Collins Richey wrote: And saddest of all, 99% of all vendors still support this crap and refuse to work with linux to make a safe and sound, easy to use product. work with linux?? What exactly does that mean, seeing as how linux isn't a company, or a person that can be worked with. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:55pm up 9 days, 5:22, 1 user, load average: 0.17, 0.25, 0.26 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Network Card Driving Miss Daisy
Any suggestions why it's so damn slow or how to trouble-shoot the issue? Any packet loss? Any errors in ifconfig output? Anything showing up in dmesg or messages? What does 'mii-tool eth0' show? Thanks netl ifconfig eth0 on that interface showed no TX errors but over 300RX errors I will have to run those commands on the box when I get home the firewall here at work is restrictive. until last night it was a mandrake box but I corrupted the /usr partition and re-installed rh9 but the slow transfer problem is common accross the two versions. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 16:02, Alma J Wetzker wrote: My guess is that they are not as involved as we would like to believe. Much as SCO's blathering is to the benefit of M$, I don't think they are orchestrating it. Sun is also a backer of SCO with _LOTS_ to lose if linux catches on. Remember that Caldera was birthed by a lawsuit with M$ over DR-DOS not working with Windoze. (They won for big bucks.) I just can't see where logic would lead you to believe that Sun is more likely than MS to be in cahoots with SCO. The available indications, albeit circumstantial, point in exactly the opposite direction. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Email from 'Microsoft'
Yes, that's the sad thing about it - they will see MS in the message and figure it's really from MS. Tim Wunder wrote: The sad thing is... there are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of PC users that will run the thing :-( On Sunday 24 August 2003 4:50 pm, someone claiming to be Brett I. Holcomb wrote: If you are crazy enough to run it G please let us know what it infects you with G. Ian Stephen wrote: Look what I just got, with an attachment patch.exe Microsoft must like me! (Now if I can only figure out how to get IE to run with Wine maybe I can use this patch ;-) pasted email From: Microsoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Use this patch immediately ! Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:30:35 -0600 (MDT) Dear friend , use this Internet Explorer patch now! There are dangerous virus in the Internet now! More than 500.000 already infected! /pasted email -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Network Card Driving Miss Daisy
That 8 port hub, is it a straight 10Mbps? That'll do it to ya every time. On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:54:09 -0700 - Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following Re: Re: Network Card Driving Miss Daisy On 08/24/03 16:48, James McDonald wrote: Hi Folks, I have a small home network with the following setup. 8port Switch RH9 8139too NIC---10/100---VIA Embedded NIC WinXP I have absolutely hopeless data transfer both ways using samba and ftp. I can only get approx ~2.6MB/s max on a good day. running ethtool on the RH9 box shows that it is running at 100MB/s Full Duplex autoneg and the same on the Windows XP box. Setting both to 100MB/s FD doesn't help. Any suggestions why it's so damn slow or how to trouble-shoot the issue? Any packet loss? Any errors in ifconfig output? Anything showing up in dmesg or messages? What does 'mii-tool eth0' show? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:50pm up 9 days, 5:17, 1 user, load average: 0.34, 0.25, 0.27 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 19:27, Net Llama! wrote: Sun is between a rock and a hard place right now, as they despise M$, yet fear Linux. They're not sure whether they want to fight a two fronted war at the moment, so they're riding the fence. I work a lot with Sun (but these opinions are mine). They have sat on the fence for years... even when they released Star Office for Linux, they still refused to commit in broader terms to supporting the Linux environment. Behind the scenes Sun developers were contributing to Linux with the tacit approval of Sun managers. Sun views their niche to be a very large share of the mid-high end Enterprise market. This is not an area where Linux has been a strong threat. Sun would just as soon ignore Linux, or at best only dabble in it for amusement. However, there has been enough requests from clients that they can no longer ignore Linux and they are starting to come around. Sun is now offering Linux systems. Sun is also allying with Linux and incorporating Linux elements in its forthcoming Sun business/corporate desktop - the one that Sun hopes will squeeze market share from Microsoft W2k and XP. From sun.com: Project Mad Hatter's interface is designed to be familiar to business desktop application users, which helps reduce training costs. The desktop also includes some features unique to Linux such as the Workspace Switcher in the lower right-hand corner that enables users to set up four different work spaces. (Does this look familiar? http://www.sun.com/2003-0805/feature/images/defaultevolution_scrnshot_081803.jpg) OTOH, Sun absolutely despises Microsoft... and that extends right up to their CEO, Scott McNealy. I suspect Sun sees Linux as an emerging low-cost complementary alternative that they need to get a piece of. They see Microsoft, however, as a direct predatory threat to Sun's existence. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 20:45, burns wrote: big snip Sorry to follow my own post, but forgot to include these additional links - if you think that Sun is playing footsie with MS (or SCO), check these out: http://www.sun.com/executives/perspectives/re-town.html http://wwws.sun.com/software/cover/2002-0918/index.html -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003, Net Llama! wrote: On 08/24/03 13:02, Alma J Wetzker wrote: My guess is that they are not as involved as we would like to believe. Much as SCO's blathering is to the benefit of M$, I don't think they are orchestrating it. Sun is also a backer of SCO with _LOTS_ to lose if linux catches on. Remember that Caldera was birthed by a lawsuit with M$ over DR-DOS not working with Windoze. (They won for big bucks.) Sun is between a rock and a hard place right now, as they despise M$, yet fear Linux. They're not sure whether they want to fight a two fronted war at the moment, so they're riding the fence. Sun also bought Cobalt which had some pretty decent commodity web applicances that ran a somewhat basterdized Red Hat. Unfortunately they really haven't supported them, and I haven't seen anything special about Sun's current Linux offerings. It seems to me that Sun's major competition now is Linux on IBM mainframes. The numbers I've seen show significant savings with large server applications when using the mainframes running multiple Linux sessions (in the 10s of thousands of Linux systems on a single mainframe). When one is working with that class of systems the physical plant becomes very important, not to mention the support issues. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Systems, Inc. UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. -- Mark Twain ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On 08/24/03 17:45, burns wrote: Sun is now offering Linux systems. Sun is also allying with Linux and incorporating Linux elements in its forthcoming Sun business/corporate desktop - the one that Sun hopes will squeeze market share from Microsoft W2k and XP. From sun.com: Project Mad Hatter's interface is designed to be familiar to business desktop application users, which helps reduce training costs. The desktop also includes some features unique to Linux such as the Workspace Switcher in the lower right-hand corner that enables users to set up four different work spaces. (Does this look familiar? http://www.sun.com/2003-0805/feature/images/defaultevolution_scrnshot_081803.jpg) Yea, i saw Sun's Madd Hatter box at Linuxworld, and inquired about it. Its nothing more than a souped up Gnome environment. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:05pm up 9 days, 7:32, 1 user, load average: 0.31, 0.12, 0.03 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Email from 'Microsoft'
On 24 Aug 2003 20:17:11 -0400 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 19:57, Net Llama! wrote: work with linux?? What exactly does that mean, seeing as how linux isn't a company, or a person that can be worked with. I think the context was to work with 'Linux software' as opposed to Microcrap products. -- Close. The intent was work with linux developers with the same level of effort as for the M$ virus. Sorry for the sloppy language. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Email from 'Microsoft'
Well, I will attempt to bring a freah bit of air here. I have a friend, ok ok no jokes hereg, and he is using M$sludge XP. Everytime he adds something, software or hardware, he has problems. He is so scared to touch the machine. DADAFDADADA Linux to the rescue, I make be able to get him to get another drive and I will put suse or some other distro on this new drive and put it in place of his original. May take a few weeks to get him to that point. He bought a new USB cdrw, but afraid he ot it will messup his system, it is still in the box. I am building a mega system from my old caldera system and put mega stuff in it. Found a 550 watt PS for $139.00. Slip it in with approx 140 g using 6 HD 4 scsi 2 IDE 3 cdrom drives of which 1 is cdrw, 1 g memory maybe later 2 g. Big Tower here. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On 24 Aug 2003 20:45:45 -0400 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 19:27, Net Llama! wrote: Sun is between a rock and a hard place right now, as they despise M$, yet fear Linux. They're not sure whether they want to fight a two fronted war at the moment, so they're riding the fence. Sun views their niche to be a very large share of the mid-high end Enterprise market. This is not an area where Linux has been a strong threat. Underline has not been. This is now changing due to the IBM effort. Any company large enough to consider IBM Z series mainframes is going to think twice about the headaches of running a traditional server farm of unix or linux boxes. The simplicities of scaling up processing power as needed and the ability to run thousands of server images on a Z series with not much more effort than a handful is going to eat Sun's lunch in its traditional, profitable mid-high-end niche -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
upgrading Redhat
Got a question for anyone who's upgraded Redhat. I've got a slew of RH-7.3-XFS boxen. I'm thinking of upgading them to RH9-XFS, however i'm not clear on whether I can jump straight to RH9, or do I have to first upgrade to RH8, and then RH9? Also, has anyone used the (un)official XFS installer CD to do the upgrade? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:50pm up 9 days, 8:17, 1 user, load average: 0.28, 0.29, 0.20 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003, Collins Richey wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:06:39 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 08/24/03 17:45, burns wrote: enables users to set up four different work spaces. (Does this look familiar? http://www.sun.com/2003-0805/feature/images/defaultevolution_scrnshot_081803.jpg) Only four work spaces? I generally have 10 running under xfce or the kde bloatware -- even under OS X. This page that I put together for a local OS X SIG meeting shows my desktop on OS X running xfce, with several x-clients which are running on various Linux boxen on our LAN. I sorta like the gimp where it's showing the screen capture of the shot that's on the page. The X-Windows part of the desktop is virtually identical with what I'm running on my SuSE 8.2 system (this was done about a year ago, and now I'm running the same Maui sunrise on OS X that I have on Linux. http://support.celestial.com/doc/osx/ Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``the purpose of government is to reign in the rights of the people'' -Bill Clinton during an interview on MTV in 1993 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Email from 'Microsoft'
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:27:39 -0500 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I will attempt to bring a freah bit of air here. I have a friend, ok ok no jokes hereg, and he is using M$sludge XP. Everytime he adds something, software or hardware, he has problems. He is so scared to touch the machine. DADAFDADADA Linux to the rescue, I make be able to get him to get another drive and I will put suse or some other distro on this new drive and put it in place of his original. Not to belittle your success or your friend's agony, but I had the opposite experience with WinXP. The machine my wife and daughter run is now a WinXP box, and I've had surprisingly good results. Nothing that I needed to install (hardware or software) has been problematic with the exception of a CD writer package (not compatible with XP). I have a USB scanner and a USB docking station. Software installed without a hitch. I'd love to get my wife and daughter on linux, too, but when the choice is learning to love and curse the gimp for photo image manipulation or to use the simple, well-designed (if limited) M$ software that came with the devices, it's a no brainer. I may have no choice if (actually when) the Outlook virus crap continues. I lucked out and got the M$ updates in time to squeak by this time, but the day will come when my wife opens a mail attachment, and the game is over. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: AVI Conversion
I'm still working on this area of knowledge myself, but isn't this where Transcode comes into play? On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:58:43 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonjour, List, Can anyone recommend a tool, preferably CLI, for converting AVIs to (something else)? Thanks, Kurt -- You should never wear your best trousers when you go out to fight for freedom and liberty. -- Henrik Ibsen ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 22:59, Collins Richey wrote: Any company large enough to consider IBM Z series mainframes is going to think twice about the headaches of running a traditional server farm of unix or linux boxes. The simplicities of scaling up processing power as needed and the ability to run thousands of server images on a Z series with not much more effort than a handful is going to eat Sun's lunch in its traditional, profitable mid-high-end niche That's not the way we're seeing it unfold, although it makes some sense and I'm sure IBM would love it. In terms of upfront roll-out costs mainframes make sense, especially where business are looking for high uptimes (e.g. five 9's). However, there are still a huge number of dedicated Sun shops out there, especially amongst those corporations that are not willing to out-source lock, stock and barrel to IBM. Mainframes are nice, but like HP inkjet cartridges, IBM makes its money on professional services, outsourcing and support... and it is *muy* expensive and it definitely limits your non-IBM up-stream options. But like the man says, it's all about choice and, until MS gets its way, there will continue to be choices in approach to enterprise architecture and resourcing... and that's a good thing. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: upgrading Redhat
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 22:53, Net Llama! wrote: Got a question for anyone who's upgraded Redhat. I've got a slew of RH-7.3-XFS boxen. I'm thinking of upgading them to RH9-XFS, however i'm not clear on whether I can jump straight to RH9, or do I have to first upgrade to RH8, and then RH9? Also, has anyone used the (un)official XFS installer CD to do the upgrade? Lonni, I'd do myself a favour, if I were you, and just go with a straight clean scratch install of RH9 (don't mess with RH8 as I don't consider it all that stable). -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Xine slow to start up while probing hardware
Xine typically has a hard time auto-configuring the correct audio library, especially
between Artsd and Alsa (SuSE's main 2). If you only install the correct audio
components (from packman.links2linux.de you can download each sound component as a
separate RPM, as well as many others) I've noticed this performs much better. I
believe this can also be set by changing the Audio configuration from the Xine config
GUI. Instead of Auto, choose either Arts or Alsa. Since I'm an avid KDE fan, I have
found the Arts config to work well.
If you can't see it, in the GUI tab choose Master of the Known Universe for
experience_level :) You may need to quit and restart Xine for this to take effect.
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 22:35:49 -0400
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
xine seems to be working but:
When I issue the command xine, I get a long delay while it probes the audio
hardware.
This is what I see.
xine *asx
This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.9.21
(c) 2000-2003 by G. Bartsch and the xine project team.
Built with xine library 1.0.0 (1-beta12)
Found xine library version: 1.0.0 (1-beta12).
XServer Vendor: The XFree86 Project, Inc. Release: 40201001,
Protocol Version: 11, Revision: 0,
Available Screen(s): 1, using 0
Depth: 16.
XShmQueryVersion: 1.1.
-[ xiTK version 0.10.3 ]-
-[ xiTK will use XShm ]-
-[ WM type: (EWMH) KWIN {KWin} ]-
Display is not using Xinerama.
main: probing xshm video output plugin
main: probing alsa audio output plugin ---DELAY IS HERE
xine_interface: unknown param 10
xine_interface: unknown param 10
xine_interface: unknown param 10
xine_interface: unknown param 10
video_out_xshm: tried to get unsupported property 2
video_out_xshm: tried to set unsupported property 2
video_out_xshm: tried to get unsupported property 2
Playlist file (082203_5_iraq1.asx) is valid (ASX3).
libmms: stream id 1, bitrate 20362
libmms: audio stream 1, video stream 0
This delay is a minute or so. Any insight appreciated.
Joel
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Re: Linux server packet loss - stopped occassionally
Logs.. Good.. Errors.. Bad.. On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:23:53 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you checked any logs to see if there are errors? Are there any ipchain/ipfilter rules in place? Can you ssh to the box during the times that it can't see the outside world? How confident are you that the box hasn't been compromised? -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Email from 'Microsoft'
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:00:14 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] professed: And saddest of all, 99% of all vendors still support this crap and refuse to work with linux to make a safe and sound, easy to use product. I'll tell you why right now. No markup on free software, also the Linux boxes, along with some OS/2, that I have installed, I hardly ever see, to the point I sometimes forget the root passwd. They just work, no call backs not repairs, no time and materials charges. Now the Winblows boxes need attention very regularly, at least once a month, so there is plenty of billable time. Thats the main reason right there. Shawn ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: AVI Conversion
You could use transcode, but its prolly overkill unless you're looking to do something really complex in the conversion process. mencoder is far easier. On 08/24/03 20:23, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm still working on this area of knowledge myself, but isn't this where Transcode comes into play? On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:58:43 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonjour, List, Can anyone recommend a tool, preferably CLI, for converting AVIs to (something else)? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 8:25pm up 9 days, 8:52, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.26 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Email from 'Microsoft'
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003, Shawn Tayler wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:00:14 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] professed: And saddest of all, 99% of all vendors still support this crap and refuse to work with linux to make a safe and sound, easy to use product. I'll tell you why right now. No markup on free software, also the Linux boxes, along with some OS/2, that I have installed, I hardly ever see, to the point I sometimes forget the root passwd. They just work, no call backs not repairs, no time and materials charges. Now the Winblows boxes need attention very regularly, at least once a month, so there is plenty of billable time. There's no substantial markup on non-free software either. Microsoft makes 85% of the profit, and the VAR/Reseller is lucky to get 5%. The problem with your second argument is that it's like selling people defective cars and continually billing for repairs. Personally I find this practice abhorent. I have always done business with the philosophy that my job is to minimize our customer's costs, with the most reliable systems possible. We charge monthly support, and handle almost everything using ssh over the 'net or dialups. It's very rare when we have to go on-site other than to install new hardware. It's true enough that there's a major segment of the IT economy that depends on Microsoft's crappy software (e.g. McAfee, Norton, and all the MCSE's who make their living reinstalling Windows). When we go to a new prospect, we have to be talking to the people who actually pay the bills, not to the IT folks since they know that it's our intention to make their jobs obsolete. BTW: We did lose a new customer about a year ago. They came to us to straighten out a Linux mail server that somebody else had installed, and were having problems with their 30 or so Windows machines. We were proposing replacing some or all of the Windows boxes with either Linux or eMacs and getting rid of the full-time person they had keeping the Windows boxes running when the BSA extortionists hit them with about 80 grand in licensing charges. This was the straw that broke them, and the company went out of business. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Systems, Inc. UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won'ttake an interest in you. -- Pericles ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WeLoveTheSCOInformationMinister
Quoth Tony Alfrey: I thought I might dial up the Caldera/SCO website and see if there was a contact us that I might use to send them all a nasty letter but their site seems to be down. Maybe they got cracked? Again. Kurt -- I'd love to go out with you, but I'm doing door-to-door collecting for static cling. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Email from 'Microsoft'
Bill Campbell wrote: the BSA extortionists hit them with about 80 grand in licensing charges. This was the straw that broke them, and the company went out of business. ouch! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Email from 'Microsoft'
I don't think people use Microsoft because they like it. Most people use it, because 'everyone else does' and therefore is a safe choice. I really think the biggest reason is the choice of software. When more software like ACT, goldmine, AutoCAD and Adobe products etc, etc, make their way to a Linux platform you will see more people using it. Two of our companies deal with manufacturers and they won't even look at Linux unless AutoDesk uses it or approves of it. Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager Lynch Digital Media Inc 416-744-7949 416-716-3964 (cell) 1-866-314-4678 416-744-0406 FAX www.LynchDigital.com -Original Message- From: Bill Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 11:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Aug 24, 2003, Shawn Tayler wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:00:14 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] professed: And saddest of all, 99% of all vendors still support this crap and refuse to work with linux to make a safe and sound, easy to use product. I'll tell you why right now. No markup on free software, also the Linux boxes, along with some OS/2, that I have installed, I hardly ever see, to the point I sometimes forget the root passwd. They just work, no call backs not repairs, no time and materials charges. Now the Winblows boxes need attention very regularly, at least once a month, so there is plenty of billable time. There's no substantial markup on non-free software either. Microsoft makes 85% of the profit, and the VAR/Reseller is lucky to get 5%. The problem with your second argument is that it's like selling people defective cars and continually billing for repairs. Personally I find this practice abhorent. I have always done business with the philosophy that my job is to minimize our customer's costs, with the most reliable systems possible. We charge monthly support, and handle almost everything using ssh over the 'net or dialups. It's very rare when we have to go on-site other than to install new hardware. It's true enough that there's a major segment of the IT economy that depends on Microsoft's crappy software (e.g. McAfee, Norton, and all the MCSE's who make their living reinstalling Windows). When we go to a new prospect, we have to be talking to the people who actually pay the bills, not to the IT folks since they know that it's our intention to make their jobs obsolete. BTW: We did lose a new customer about a year ago. They came to us to straighten out a Linux mail server that somebody else had installed, and were having problems with their 30 or so Windows machines. We were proposing replacing some or all of the Windows boxes with either Linux or eMacs and getting rid of the full-time person they had keeping the Windows boxes running when the BSA extortionists hit them with about 80 grand in licensing charges. This was the straw that broke them, and the company went out of business. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Systems, Inc. UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won'ttake an interest in you. -- Pericles ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Good argument for Linux/FreeBSD routers.
I've seen many discussions on the pros and cons of ``real routers'' and those based on Linux or one of the *BSD systems. This article puts an interesting light on the subject (particularly if the vendor happened to be using an embedded Linux :-). http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/08/08/31FEfair_1.html Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ A paranoid is a man who knows a little of what's going on. -- William S. Burroughs ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: backing up windows
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:15:00 -0400 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would seem likely to me that your ext2 data is NOT protected from Windows virii. What keeps linux safe from that is linux, not ext2. If Win has access to the data, the virii have access to the data. If you want to be safe from Windows virii, don't run Windows. Although, I've read that some Windows virii will run under WINE... Perhaps you can mount access the Linux partition read-only via this software. The partition access is not directly via windows, which in older releases did not allow read-only partitions. If this software makes access read-only, then you may have a chance at limiting any damage to the data it contains. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Anyone using Moz Thunderbird?
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 13:33:08 +1000 James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Hipp wrote: Is it stable enough for everyday use? Michael I went back to mozilla because thunderbird didn't launch links in email... Go to the tools window in MT, and get the MozEx extension. These install nicely. I really like the Google Bar. I use 0.61 and am happy. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Universal vs local time
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:55:48 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:25:10 +0200 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:31:52 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21 Aug 2003 22:18:38 -0400 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 20:55, Joel Hammer wrote: How can I tell if my linux box is running with the clock set to universal or local time? 'uname -a' gives you the system time. It's pretty obvious from that what time standard it is using (local or otherwise). Huh?? The only think uname -a shows is the time the kernel was built based on the system time of the system it was built on (which may not even be the system it was running on). If you can ascertain anything about the hardware clock on the system from that, Sherlock, I'd like to know how. Look at /etc/sysconfig/clock and this has what to do with uname? Nothing at all. The uname idea was not mine. Read Joel's original question to see why I answered (correctly, I think) as I did. /etc/sysconfig/clock is the relevant file. At least on SuSE, Gentoo (I think) and Caldera. Don't know about others, and Joel was not specific in the OS. The real question is not what your clock is running at, but what the linux system thinks it is running at. uname reads some parameters from the running kernel to provide you kernel type, kernel version, hostname the kernel was built on, architecture the kernel was built for, time and date (according to the system and the letting of /etc/localtime), and a few other parameters. As for hwclock, some systems seem to ignore hwclock's -s (--set) parameter (as well as the --systohc argument). I believe that's the fault of some compile-time options. But you can still read the hardware time no matter what. If it differs from what date tells you then I bet you are running a system that thinks the clock is GMT. On SuSE mine is: # Set to -u if your system clock is set to UTC, and to # --localtime if your clock runs that way. HWCLOCK=-u On Caldera it is: CLOCKMODE=GMT On SuSE, the option is really an option to the 'hwclock' command. I don't see how you can get the current setting, unless you compare the time from'hwclock --show' with that of 'date'. If they are off by longer than the time it takes to run the two commands, then the hardware clock is probably GMT. That is all I have. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24 Aug 2003 20:14:38 -0400 On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 16:02, Alma J Wetzker wrote: My guess is that they are not as involved as we would like to believe. Much as SCO's blathering is to the benefit of M$, I don't think they are orchestrating it. Sun is also a backer of SCO with _LOTS_ to lose if linux catches on. Remember that Caldera was birthed by a lawsuit with M$ over DR-DOS not working with Windoze. (They won for big bucks.) I just can't see where logic would lead you to believe that Sun is more likely than MS to be in cahoots with SCO. The available indications, albeit circumstantial, point in exactly the opposite direction. Sloppy language, sorry. I really don't think either company is involved other than giving $$$ to SCO. To me it looks like the razor cuts to SCO's arrogance and stupidity without any help from an outside source. (Other than cheers.) -- Alma ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Anyone using Moz Thunderbird?
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 13:33:08 +1000 James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Hipp wrote: Is it stable enough for everyday use? Michael I went back to mozilla because thunderbird didn't launch links in email... Go to the tools window in MT, and get the MozEx extension. These install nicely. I really like the Google Bar. I use 0.61 and am happy. Is there some advantage over Mozilla, which I'm quite happy with? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Email from 'Microsoft'
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:09:18 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Campbell wrote: the BSA extortionists hit them with about 80 grand in licensing charges. This was the straw that broke them, and the company went out of business. ouch! Same thing has happened here in Panama. The resurrected companies wnat nothing to do with M$. In this way, M$ often helps Linux by shooting itself in its own foot. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
MozillaFirebird wrapper script
I condigured KDE to use Firebird as the default browser, but if I clicked on multiple links in K-Mail, I was getting prompted for a profile to use. So I had to close the already opened Firebird to open the new link. Someone on comp.windows.x.kde (Dennis Hansen) posted a wrapper script to get Mozilla 1.5a (about which a poster was complaining of the same problem) to not prompt for the profile (this script is a bit simpler than what's found at http://linux-sxs.org/internet_browsing/multimoz.html): #!/bin/bash MOZILLA=/usr/bin/mozilla if ($MOZILLA -remote ping()); then $MOZILLA -remote openurl($1, new-tab) else $MOZILLA $1 fi I created a new file called /usr/bin/firebird, pasted that, changed the MOZILLA= line to MOZILLA=/opt/MozillaFirebird/MozillaFirebird (which is where I installed Firebird), and made the file executable. This has the added benefit of opening new links in new tabs. Now all is right with the Universe again. :-) Regards, Tim -- RedHat 8.0 Kernel 2.4.20-19.8, KDE 3.1.3, Xfree86 4.2.1 7:35am up 2 days, 13:33, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.07, 0.03 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
2.4.22 kernel is out
After 72 days, Marcelo seems to have released 2.4.22 final: - 2.4.22-rc4 was released as 2.4.22 with no changes. Summary of changes from v2.4.22-rc3 to v2.4.22-rc4 marcelo:logos.cnet: o Fix drivers/net/Config.in - CONFIG_TC35815 o Changed EXTRAVERSION to -rc4 Andi Kleen: o Fix x86-64 ia32 emulation Paul Mackerras: o PPC32: Make strncpy clear the unused part of the destination o PPC32: Make sure various sections get aligned properly by the linker Ralf Bächle: o dep_tristate fix for CONFIG_TC35815 Summary of changes from v2.4.22-rc2 to v2.4.22-rc3 len.brown:intel.com: o ACPI update o ACPI build fix o linux-acpi-2.4.22.patch marcelo:logos.cnet: o Cset exclude: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|ChangeSet|20030706160607|06244 o Cset exclude: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|ChangeSet|20030705173225|06246 o Changed EXTRAVERSION to -rc3 o Update Makefile: drivers/sgi removed o Make the Toshiba TC35815 only selectable on the only system know to actually use it markhe:veritas.com: o Wrong assumption in set_bh_page() paul.clements:steeleye.com: o nbd: fix race conditions steved:redhat.com: o Stop call_decode() from ignorning RPC header errors Alan Cox: o Alan CREDIT/MAINTAINERS update Andi Kleen: o Disable ACPI NUMA support for x86-64 o Critical x86-64 fixes for 2.4.22-rc o [SECURITY] Fix interrupt gates on x86-64 Andrea Arcangeli: o Andrea contact information update Andreas Gruenbacher: o More steal_locks fixes: we should be in full LSB compliance now David S. Miller: o [IPV6]: Fix dangling multicast device references David Stevens: o [NET]: Fix IGMPv2/MLDv2 list handling OOPS Erik Andersen: o Fix cdrom error handling Geert Uytterhoeven: o Remove unused label in sunrpc code o Update Geert's contact information Ivan Kokshaysky: o alpha: yet another stxncpy fix Jeff Garzik: o fix OOPS in bonding driver, when removing primary slave o add a couple pci ids to pci_ids.h Kai Makisara: o Change Kai Makisara's email address Marcelo Tosatti: o Ingo: Fix ptrace swap race o Changed HFS maintainer: Roman Zippel is now doing the work Michal Ostrowski: o Fix PPPoE oops on unload Muli Ben-Yehuda: o fix trident.c lockup on module load 2.4.22-rc1 Nathan Scott: o Fix 2.4 loop handling of sector size ioctl Petr Vandrovec: o Allow atime updates on ncpfs Ralf Bächle: o Important DEC/MIPS update o More MIPS update Summary of changes from v2.4.22-rc1 to v2.4.22-rc2 bjorn.helgaas:hp.com: o HP ZX1 PCI ID update khali:linux-fr.org: o i2c-dev ioctl fixes marcelo:logos.cnet: o ide.c: Keep hwif-hold flag needed by powermac mbay driver o Changed EXTRAVERSION to -rc2 robn:verdi.et.tudelft.nl: o Do not update fifo timestamps on readonly fses Alan Cox: o ide makefile o Promise cable o Fix the siimage dma setup bug o via ide fix timing bug (as already done in 2.6.0-test) o fix bracketing in ti113x pcmcia header o remove bogus printk that can spam the logs o zero padding in struct on stack o get quota version o Avoid i810 ICH crashes with MMIO only Andrew Morton: o ext3_read_inode() race fix Herbert Xu: o Fix steal_locks race Ivan Kokshaysky: o alpha: shutdown/reboot fix (Jay Estabrook, me) Marc-Christian Petersen: o Intel ICH5 PCI IDs Oleg Drokin: o reiserfs: fix some issues with extended inode attributes Summary of changes from v2.4.22-pre10 to v2.4.22-rc1 calum.mackay:cdmnet.org: o export the symbol mmu_cr4_features for XFree86 lethal:unusual.internal.linux-sh.org: o sh: Define __flush_icache_all() for SH-3 o sh: Fix single stepping from looping o sh: Add pgprot_nocached() definition o sh: Further support for SecureEdge5410 and SH7751R marcelo:logos.cnet: o Delete: fs/noquot.c o Cset exclude: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|ChangeSet|20030804201535|32414 o Changed EXTRAVERSION to -rc1 Adrian Bunk: o fix a compile warning in acpi/system.c o Fix circular dependency Benjamin Herrenschmidt: o ppc32: Fix PowerMac mediabay driver Jeff Garzik: o devices.txt: rename /dev/intel_rng to /dev/hwrandom o [i810_rng] update docs to reflect new /dev name, and new pkg name Manfred Spraul: o fix select() with an xoffed tty Theodore Y. T'so: o Correct 64-bit write system call assignment Summary of changes from v2.4.22-pre9 to v2.4.22-pre10 achirica:telefonica.net: o [wireless airo] sync with 2.6 o [wireless airo] Simplify dynamic buffer code in Cisco extensions o [wireless airo] Update structs with the new fields in latest firmwares o [wireless airo] Make locking per thread so it's fully preemptive o [wireless airo] Don't sleep when the stats are requested o [wireless airo] Don't call MIC functions if the card doesn't support them o [wireless airo] Fix small endianness
Re: upgrading Redhat
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, burns wrote: On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 22:53, Net Llama! wrote: Got a question for anyone who's upgraded Redhat. I've got a slew of RH-7.3-XFS boxen. I'm thinking of upgading them to RH9-XFS, however i'm not clear on whether I can jump straight to RH9, or do I have to first upgrade to RH8, and then RH9? Also, has anyone used the (un)official XFS installer CD to do the upgrade? Lonni, I'd do myself a favour, if I were you, and just go with a straight clean scratch install of RH9 (don't mess with RH8 as I don't consider it all that stable). ugh. that's not what i wanted to hear. several of these boxes have a ton of custom binaries on them, and i don't know how well they'd run restoring from backup. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Anyone using Moz Thunderbird?
Ken Moffat wrote: Is there some advantage over Mozilla, which I'm quite happy with? I've only converted to it over the last few days, so there is much to discover yet. Some things I've seen: - Much prettier UI. Finally breaks away from the mud-fence-ugly Netscape UI. It will be easier to recommend to clients over that Microsoft stuff. - Lots of little enhancements to the UI that, to me, add up to alot. - UI is alot more customizable. - Overall, it seems faster and leaner (even in beta stage) than Moz. - Appears this is where the resources will go for browser development in the future, so may as well get on board now. Editorial comment: DEP has been known to criticize (rightly so) lots of desktop OSS apps that never quite seem to measure up to their commercial counterparts. If Moz Firebird/Thunderbird can be taken as a measure of what the community is producing, then we are entering an entirely new era of OSS. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Email from 'Microsoft'
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 07:12, David A. Bandel wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:09:18 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Campbell wrote: the BSA extortionists hit them with about 80 grand in licensing charges. This was the straw that broke them, and the company went out of business. ouch! Same thing has happened here in Panama. The resurrected companies wnat nothing to do with M$. In this way, M$ often helps Linux by shooting itself in its own foot. They sure do. Along these lines, I read this story last week off of /. It particularly appealed to me because it involves the brand of guitar strings I use. It is a grand Linux success story. http://news.com.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html?tag=lh --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WeLoveTheSCOInformationMinister
On Sunday 24 August 2003 09:09 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Tony Alfrey: I thought I might dial up the Caldera/SCO website and see if there was a contact us that I might use to send them all a nasty letter but their site seems to be down. Maybe they got cracked? Again. Kurt Still dead this morning. How is a loyal customer like me supposed to get customer service/tech support for the boxed linux distro that I bought from them?? ;-) -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Good argument for Linux/FreeBSD routers.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003, David A. Bandel wrote: ... This is why I run Cyclades cards for routers (Frame Relay). Cheaper, better, and easier for end users than Cisco. We use Sangoma cards. They work on Linux and FreeBSD, and their support has been excellent. Cyclades screwed me thoroughly, shipping cards that wouldn't work with the Linux kernel we were running even though I was very specific about that, then charging a 15% restocking fee when the cards didn't work. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. (Joseph Stalin) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTTrip to Maine
On Tuesday 12 August 2003 21:08 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: C'est moi. Actually, the picture was badly composed. I should have piled up all three of the lobsters that I ate. Yes, this was excessive, but, c'est la vie. Joel Think I have you beat On a three week trip to Martha's Vineyard and Maine (all the way to Eastport), I destroyed 26.5 lobsters. Ashamed to say it. However, it seems the lobster crop is doing quite well up there. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 08/25/03 10:53 + ++ When I'm good I'm very, very good, but when I'm bad I'm better. - Mae West ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WeLoveTheSCOInformationMinister
Quoth Tony Alfrey: On Sunday 24 August 2003 09:09 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Tony Alfrey: I thought I might dial up the Caldera/SCO website and see if there was a contact us that I might use to send them all a nasty letter but their site seems to be down. Maybe they got cracked? Again. Kurt Still dead this morning. How is a loyal customer like me supposed to get customer service/tech support for the boxed linux distro that I bought from them?? ;-) It's been DoSed, evidently: http://lwn.net/Articles/46229/ Kurt -- Gee, Toto, I don't think we are in Kansas anymore. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
linux-2.4.22 released
For those of you not following LKML: - Forwarded message from Marcelo Tosatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Marcelo Tosatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:48:30 -0700 Subject: linux-2.4.22 released final: - 2.4.22-rc4 was released as 2.4.22 with no changes. Summary of changes from v2.4.22-rc3 to v2.4.22-rc4 marcelo:logos.cnet: o Fix drivers/net/Config.in - CONFIG_TC35815 o Changed EXTRAVERSION to -rc4 Andi Kleen: o Fix x86-64 ia32 emulation Paul Mackerras: o PPC32: Make strncpy clear the unused part of the destination o PPC32: Make sure various sections get aligned properly by the linker Ralf Bächle: o dep_tristate fix for CONFIG_TC35815 Summary of changes from v2.4.22-rc2 to v2.4.22-rc3 len.brown:intel.com: o ACPI update o ACPI build fix o linux-acpi-2.4.22.patch marcelo:logos.cnet: o Cset exclude: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|ChangeSet|20030706160607|06244 o Cset exclude: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|ChangeSet|20030705173225|06246 o Changed EXTRAVERSION to -rc3 o Update Makefile: drivers/sgi removed o Make the Toshiba TC35815 only selectable on the only system know to actually use it markhe:veritas.com: o Wrong assumption in set_bh_page() paul.clements:steeleye.com: o nbd: fix race conditions steved:redhat.com: o Stop call_decode() from ignorning RPC header errors Alan Cox: o Alan CREDIT/MAINTAINERS update Andi Kleen: o Disable ACPI NUMA support for x86-64 o Critical x86-64 fixes for 2.4.22-rc o [SECURITY] Fix interrupt gates on x86-64 Andrea Arcangeli: o Andrea contact information update Andreas Gruenbacher: o More steal_locks fixes: we should be in full LSB compliance now David S. Miller: o [IPV6]: Fix dangling multicast device references David Stevens: o [NET]: Fix IGMPv2/MLDv2 list handling OOPS Erik Andersen: o Fix cdrom error handling Geert Uytterhoeven: o Remove unused label in sunrpc code o Update Geert's contact information Ivan Kokshaysky: o alpha: yet another stxncpy fix Jeff Garzik: o fix OOPS in bonding driver, when removing primary slave o add a couple pci ids to pci_ids.h Kai Makisara: o Change Kai Makisara's email address Marcelo Tosatti: o Ingo: Fix ptrace swap race o Changed HFS maintainer: Roman Zippel is now doing the work Michal Ostrowski: o Fix PPPoE oops on unload Muli Ben-Yehuda: o fix trident.c lockup on module load 2.4.22-rc1 Nathan Scott: o Fix 2.4 loop handling of sector size ioctl Petr Vandrovec: o Allow atime updates on ncpfs Ralf Bächle: o Important DEC/MIPS update o More MIPS update Summary of changes from v2.4.22-rc1 to v2.4.22-rc2 bjorn.helgaas:hp.com: o HP ZX1 PCI ID update khali:linux-fr.org: o i2c-dev ioctl fixes marcelo:logos.cnet: o ide.c: Keep hwif-hold flag needed by powermac mbay driver o Changed EXTRAVERSION to -rc2 robn:verdi.et.tudelft.nl: o Do not update fifo timestamps on readonly fses Alan Cox: o ide makefile o Promise cable o Fix the siimage dma setup bug o via ide fix timing bug (as already done in 2.6.0-test) o fix bracketing in ti113x pcmcia header o remove bogus printk that can spam the logs o zero padding in struct on stack o get quota version o Avoid i810 ICH crashes with MMIO only Andrew Morton: o ext3_read_inode() race fix Herbert Xu: o Fix steal_locks race Ivan Kokshaysky: o alpha: shutdown/reboot fix (Jay Estabrook, me) Marc-Christian Petersen: o Intel ICH5 PCI IDs Oleg Drokin: o reiserfs: fix some issues with extended inode attributes Summary of changes from v2.4.22-pre10 to v2.4.22-rc1 calum.mackay:cdmnet.org: o export the symbol mmu_cr4_features for XFree86 lethal:unusual.internal.linux-sh.org: o sh: Define __flush_icache_all() for SH-3 o sh: Fix single stepping from looping o sh: Add pgprot_nocached() definition o sh: Further support for SecureEdge5410 and SH7751R marcelo:logos.cnet: o Delete: fs/noquot.c o Cset exclude: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|ChangeSet|20030804201535|32414 o Changed EXTRAVERSION to -rc1 Adrian Bunk: o fix a compile warning in acpi/system.c o Fix circular dependency Benjamin Herrenschmidt: o ppc32: Fix PowerMac mediabay driver Jeff Garzik: o devices.txt: rename /dev/intel_rng to /dev/hwrandom o [i810_rng] update docs to reflect new /dev name, and new pkg name Manfred Spraul: o fix select() with an xoffed tty Theodore Y. T'so: o Correct 64-bit write system call assignment Summary of changes from v2.4.22-pre9 to v2.4.22-pre10 achirica:telefonica.net: o [wireless airo] sync with 2.6 o
Re: SCO fizzles
Well, let's see: Microsoft benefits by what SCO is doing, but a big part of the origin of Caldera was a successful lawsuit against them. Also, they had a big chunk of old SCO and dumped it as worthless--making them look foolish if the current management has found the magic bullet to kill Linux, while Microsoft couldn't see it. Also, Microsoft gets GPL. They don't like it, but they get it. But they threw money at SCO for licensing they really didn't need. Sun has made some noises similar to what SCO has, about paying for their (Linux) products to avoid IP issues. They seem somewhat in favor of open source, but apparently have some inclination to co-opt same. And they have also bought SCO licensing that it didn't really look like they need. And then there's the lawyer whose head office is in--ahem--Armonk, NY. And apparently has had past dealings with IBM. And this crap started just after SCO hired him... Who's the villain? At 04:50 AM 8/25/03 -0500, Alma J Wetzker wrote: burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24 Aug 2003 20:14:38 -0400 On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 16:02, Alma J Wetzker wrote: My guess is that they are not as involved as we would like to believe. Much as SCO's blathering is to the benefit of M$, I don't think they are orchestrating it. Sun is also a backer of SCO with _LOTS_ to lose if linux catches on. Remember that Caldera was birthed by a lawsuit with M$ over DR-DOS not working with Windoze. (They won for big bucks.) I just can't see where logic would lead you to believe that Sun is more likely than MS to be in cahoots with SCO. The available indications, albeit circumstantial, point in exactly the opposite direction. Sloppy language, sorry. I really don't think either company is involved other than giving $$$ to SCO. To me it looks like the razor cuts to SCO's arrogance and stupidity without any help from an outside source. (Other than cheers.) -- Alma ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Stuart Biggerstaff Linda Hall Library of Science Engineering Technology 5109 Cherry St. Kansas City, MO 64110 Phone: (816) 926-8748 (800) 662-1545 x748 FAX:(816) 926-8785 URL:www.lindahall.org ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Does Kmail support MIME encoding?
Kmail does, indeed, support MIME encoding. I'm not expert at this, but I'm guessing that you have received an email with html formatting, rather than ascii formatiing and Kmail is not rendering the html. If that's the case, then your problem, probably, is that html rendering is turned off for security reasons. Go into Settings/Security/General and see if the checkbox for HTML is turned on. Or, alternately, go to Appearance/Profiles and select Kmail with HTML previewing (this makes other changes to your options as well). Hope this helps. cmr On Friday 22 August 2003 07:16 pm, you wrote: I am using Kmail 1.4.3 with KDE 3.0.5. I recieved a email that stated the following: Your Email Client does not support MIME encoding. Please upgrade to MIME-enabled Email Client (almost every modern Email Client is MIME-capable). Since I am not even sure what that means (he blushes with embaressment), how can I correct this? TIA Harry G ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Debian 'Sarge': Registered Linux User #241964 More laws, less justice. -- Marcus Tullius Ciceroca, 42 BC ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
To Sync or Not to Sync.
Ok, I have successfully loaded SuSe 8.2 on my VAIO Laptop. USB works great and I bought a USB drive kit. I have the drive partitioned into to parts, one is a 10GB FAT32 and the other is a 50GB ext3. Should I use the sync on the fstab on both partitions, since this is a USB drive? Thanks ... -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell (601)-946-1220 Business Network Solutions 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Software is like Sex, it is better when it's free - Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
Quoth Collins Richey: On 24 Aug 2003 20:45:45 -0400 Sun views their niche to be a very large share of the mid-high end Enterprise market. This is not an area where Linux has been a strong threat. Underline has not been. This is now changing due to the IBM effort. Any company large enough to consider IBM Z series mainframes is going to think twice about the headaches of running a traditional server farm of unix or linux boxes. The simplicities of scaling up processing power as needed and the ability to run thousands of server images on a Z series with not much more effort than a handful is going to eat Sun's lunch in its traditional, profitable mid-high-end niche The simplicities are only simple for those shops that already have big iron expertise on staff. For everyone else, simplicity is buying another box and adding it to the server farm. Kurt -- It's better to be wanted for murder that not to be wanted at all. -- Marty Winch ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:42:13 -0500, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote: Well, let's see: Microsoft benefits by what SCO is doing, but a big part of the origin of Caldera was a successful lawsuit against them. Also, they had a big chunk of old SCO and dumped it as worthless--making them look foolish if the current management has found the magic bullet to kill Linux, while Microsoft couldn't see it. Also, Microsoft gets GPL. They don't like it, but they get it. But they threw money at SCO for licensing they really didn't need. Sun has made some noises similar to what SCO has, about paying for their (Linux) products to avoid IP issues. They seem somewhat in favor of open source, but apparently have some inclination to co-opt same. And they have also bought SCO licensing that it didn't really look like they need. And then there's the lawyer whose head office is in--ahem--Armonk, NY. And apparently has had past dealings with IBM. And this crap started just after SCO hired him... Who's the villain? Oh, that's an easy one: all of them :) Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Tel/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 Malabia 2137 14 A e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C1425EZC) Buenos Aires Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar Argentina ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
gentoo again - avoid downloads
For those of you without a high-speed internet connection, as I reported earlier the current gentoo LiveCD sets will get you up and going, but if you really want realtively current sources, try the following uri. On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:43:17 -0400 Phil Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could buy the Gentoo essentials CDs. They come with source pacakges and the portage tree as of the day they are ordered. http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/linux/cart.php/ba/pdtl/product/218 -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 11:42, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote: And they have also bought SCO licensing that it didn't really look like they need. When was that and for what? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: upgrading Redhat
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, burns wrote: On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 22:53, Net Llama! wrote: Got a question for anyone who's upgraded Redhat. I've got a slew of RH-7.3-XFS boxen. I'm thinking of upgading them to RH9-XFS, however i'm not clear on whether I can jump straight to RH9, or do I have to first upgrade to RH8, and then RH9? Also, has anyone used the (un)official XFS installer CD to do the upgrade? Lonni, I'd do myself a favour, if I were you, and just go with a straight clean scratch install of RH9 (don't mess with RH8 as I don't consider it all that stable). ugh. that's not what i wanted to hear. several of these boxes have a ton of custom binaries on them, and i don't know how well they'd run restoring from backup. If you have a ton of custom binaries, you may be SOL with either approach. Chances are really good (tm) that some of the binaries will prove themselves to be dependent on earlier versions of libraries that are now up level, unless of course the binaries are all big honking statically linked packages. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:08:36 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoth Collins Richey: On 24 Aug 2003 20:45:45 -0400 Sun views their niche to be a very large share of the mid-high end Enterprise market. This is not an area where Linux has been a strong threat. Underline has not been. This is now changing due to the IBM effort. Any company large enough to consider IBM Z series mainframes is going to think twice about the headaches of running a traditional server farm of unix or linux boxes. The simplicities of scaling up processing power as needed and the ability to run thousands of server images on a Z series with not much more effort than a handful is going to eat Sun's lunch in its traditional, profitable mid-high-end niche The simplicities are only simple for those shops that already have big iron expertise on staff. For everyone else, simplicity is buying another box and adding it to the server farm. Quite true. That's why I started out with companies large enough to consider Z series mainframes, and of course I omitted to say staff with expertise. Most of the conversion stories I hear are companies that are already running big iron for their accounting apps, etc., and who want to maximize the already considerable investment in iron and staff. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Good argument for Linux/FreeBSD routers.
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:42:52 -0700 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen many discussions on the pros and cons of ``real routers'' and those based on Linux or one of the *BSD systems. This article puts an interesting light on the subject (particularly if the vendor happened to be using an embedded Linux :-). http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/08/08/31FEfair_1.html Yep, read that article a few days ago. I have no need for hardware routers, but I have a long memory, and if I ever do, NetAPP won't be on the list of vendors I use. What they are doing is legal, but it sucks. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WeLoveTheSCOInformationMinister
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003, Collins Richey wrote: ... Why, send in your licensing fee to SCO for all the stolen IP stuff you have in your linux boxen, and I'm sure they'll get right back to you. All the Linux systems we installed prior to January 2003 were purchased from Caldera/SCO. Perhaps somebody within SCO should pay them. This fits into the McBride fighting both sides of the battle posted a week or so ago. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. -- Will Rogers ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WeLoveTheSCOInformationMinister
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:47:53 -0700 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 24 August 2003 09:09 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Tony Alfrey: I thought I might dial up the Caldera/SCO website and see if there was a contact us that I might use to send them all a nasty letter but their site seems to be down. Maybe they got cracked? Again. Kurt Still dead this morning. How is a loyal customer like me supposed to get customer service/tech support for the boxed linux distro that I bought from them?? ;-) Why, send in your licensing fee to SCO for all the stolen IP stuff you have in your linux boxen, and I'm sure they'll get right back to you. grin -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
My mirror box has had a myo-cardial infarction
Sorry to send this to the wrong list the australian sxs mirror. http://sxs.gotdns.org is down until I copy the files back and create a virtual host again. I had a video card failure (fan failed and cooked chip) and then I decided I would swap some disks around and put the covers back on the box I ended up corrupting /usr so I have re-installed and as usual it takes a while to get back to where I had it. Cheers -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton, NSW Australia 61+ 0428 320 219 (mob) 61+ (02)6570 1556 (bh) 61+ (02)6571 2401 (ah) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
Oops. I may have overstated. I guess it's possible SCO might have had some better drivers for Intel than Sun already was using when they made this deal. http://news.com.com/2100-1016-1024633.html http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/21894.html At 05:05 PM 8/25/03 -0400, burns wrote: On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 11:42, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote: And they have also bought SCO licensing that it didn't really look like they need. When was that and for what? -- burns Stuart Biggerstaff Linda Hall Library of Science Engineering Technology 5109 Cherry St. Kansas City, MO 64110 Phone: (816) 926-8748 (800) 662-1545 x748 FAX:(816) 926-8785 URL:www.lindahall.org ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SuSE 8.2 kernel sources
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:07:54 +0200 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't SuSE 8.2 install kernel sources in /usr/src? Is this something you have to actively select to have installed? Yes, Roger, you will have to download the latest source rpm and install it. Try ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/current, or a mirror site. It installs onto /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-4 or whatever version you download. There is a link from /usr/src/linux to the last installed kernel so watch that if you have more than one kernel! HTH Terence ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote: Oops. I may have overstated. I guess it's possible SCO might have had some better drivers for Intel than Sun already was using when they made this deal. SCO was one of the prime movers behind the UDI (Universal Driver Interface) effort before Caldera purchased the original SCO. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ A Galileo could no more be elected president of the United States than he could be elected Pope of Rome. Both high posts are reserved for men favored by God with an extraordinary genius for swathing the bitter facts of life in bandages of self-illusion. -- H. L. Mencken ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
