Re: TextMaker
On Saturday 15 November 2003 12:16 am, Kurt Wall wrote: Has anyone received their TextMaker $11.11 download instructions yet? I've not seen mine... Kurt I received mine about 44 hours after I received the Thank You email. The website said it usually takes a day; but at $11.11, I'm sure they're swamped. I also bought the Handheld PC (WinCE) version. I haven't installed it yet; but the website states that no conversion is necessary to use files on both the desktop and PDA, which means you don't have to sync before sending someone a file. Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TextMaker
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:16:23 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone received their TextMaker $11.11 download instructions yet? I've not seen mine... If you're keen to get started, download the 30 day trial- I think you can then unlock it when you get the instructions. If not save the files and delete before installing (installing the purchased version that is!). I like the trial version, and am waiting for the cd, (I'm in the UK, if you hadn't already realised..) Terence ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TextMaker
Consuming 0.3K bytes, Kurt Wall blathered: Has anyone received their TextMaker $11.11 download instructions yet? I've not seen mine... Works everytime - I send this message, and the license informaiton arrives. Kurt -- Hacker's Law: The belief that enhanced understanding will necessarily stir a nation to action is one of mankind's oldest illusions. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StarOffice 7 reviewed in Wall Street Journal
Just in case people want to see the whole thing review: StarOffice Improves Performance, but Still Can't Rival Microsoft It has been years since Microsoft had any real competition for its Office productivity suite -- the software package that includes Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook. Once-popular competitors like WordPerfect and Lotus 1-2-3 have been reduced to tiny niche players. But there is a competing office suite that is the darling of those companies, software developers and users who have made hating or battling Microsoft into a sort of religion. It's called StarOffice, and is sold by Sun Microsystems, a maker of high-end hardware and software that is one of Microsoft's biggest critics. Originally developed in Germany, and constantly improved by open-source developers outside Sun, StarOffice runs on Windows, Linux and Sun's own Solaris workstation systems. It includes a word processor, a spreadsheet, a presentation program and database functionality. It lacks an e-mail, calendar and contacts program like Microsoft's Outlook. The program has its own file formats, but Sun boasts that StarOffice can read and edit Microsoft Office files faithfully, and can save files in Microsoft Office formats so that most of the world can open and edit them using Microsoft Office. You can even set up StarOffice so it always saves all files in Microsoft Office formats, rather than its own format. Sun has just released a new version called StarOffice 7, and I've been testing it. It's slightly easier to use and much better at importing Microsoft documents than last year's version. But it's still not flawless at interchanging documents with Microsoft Office, and for that reason I still can't recommend it wholeheartedly for users who need to exchange more than very basic documents. The key virtue of StarOffice is that it's cheap. Sun sells it for $80, compared with the hundreds of dollars Microsoft charges, especially for versions of Office that include the Access database program. In fact, StarOffice can be had free. Users can download a free open-source version of the program, called OpenOffice 1.1, at www.openoffice.org1. OpenOffice is essentially identical to StarOffice, except Sun provides a better spell checker, more fonts and more database capabilities. But these price advantages aren't as great as they once would have been, because Microsoft has been stealthily cutting the price of Office for consumers. A version of Microsoft Office called the Student and Teacher edition costs only $149, and can legally be installed on up to three PCs in a household. It is supposed to be sold only to students and teachers, but Microsoft also says it can be purchased by anyone living in a household with pretty much anyone who attends, or teaches at, any kind of educational institution. And, in fact, most stores ask no questions at all when you buy it. I tested StarOffice 7 for two main things: ease of use, and the ability to import and export documents in Microsoft formats -- a necessity in a world where most people use Microsoft Office. This program has a strong techie heritage, and is now controlled by a company and an open-source community that couldn't tell a normal, nontechnical computer user from a bag of Cheetos. But in version 7, the help system has been vastly improved. Most of the icons and menus follow the conventions set by Microsoft. Installation seemed simpler. There are still techie vestiges in some of the options menus. The new version retains my favorite inscrutable option choice: size optimization for XML format (no pretty printing). And some tasks, such as inserting page numbers and viewing word count, are still too hard. One annoying feature tries to complete words you type. But all in all, StarOffice is a bit easier to use. The biggest improvement has been in the import and export of Microsoft Office documents. I tried several of the same highly complex Word, Excel and PowerPoint documents I tested last year, and version 7 handled them better. When they were opened in StarOffice 7, some formatting was still messed up, but more of the files looked about the same as they did in Microsoft Office. One complicated PowerPoint file, with various transitions and sound effects, reproduced perfectly. I then composed a simpler test file in Microsoft Word, mainly consisting of text in various colors, fonts and oddball styles, plus embedded graphics files, tables and clip art. StarOffice 7 rendered this file very well, even replicating unusual formatting, like engraved and embossed fonts. The spacing between the graphics was a little off, but easily corrected. But StarOffice choked on the exporting side of the equation. After editing the same file in StarOffice, I then saved it and reopened it in Word. The text, with the right fonts and formats -- even columns and tables -- came through fine. But several embedded graphics were missing, which could be a disaster in an important business document sent to a
code for control+...?
Sorry for the probably stupid question, but it's killing me... I need to write a expect script where the pressing of the control key+ something needs to be detected. The man page has an example set CTRLZ \032 where the code \032 corresponds to Control-Z. Now, how can I know the codes corresponding to other combinations (e.g. Control-space)? TIA, -- Jorge Almeida ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
newbie kmail filter ques.
Hi; Not being an expert with filters, I ask the assembled experts. This is a kmail (which I use as a mail client) specific question. I wish to set up a POP filter so that MS executables and scripts in attachments are not downloaded from my mail server (earthlink) . So I just set up a POP filter in the handy dandy POP filter rules window box with a Filter Criteria of message contains .exe message contains .scr because message is what the kmail help page suggested for filtering the entire contents. But no joy. I'm not worried about them running, I just don't like them clogging up my mail. Any helpful hints?? Am I interpreting the concept of mail server correctly (that is, the mail server is my earthlink isp that stores my email). Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TextMaker
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 05:08:09 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consuming 0.3K bytes, Kurt Wall blathered: Has anyone received their TextMaker $11.11 download instructions yet? I've not seen mine... Works everytime - I send this message, and the license informaiton arrives. Hey, I thought I had that method patented! g Mine came through in about a day and a half. I had to try about 3 times to get into the download site. Unlike my prior attempt a few months ago, the authorization code worked first time out of the chute. You gotta love the installation - simplicity personified. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: newbie kmail filter ques.
On Saturday 15 November 2003 9:28 am, someone claiming to be Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi; Not being an expert with filters, I ask the assembled experts. This is a kmail (which I use as a mail client) specific question. I wish to set up a POP filter so that MS executables and scripts in attachments are not downloaded from my mail server (earthlink) . So I just set up a POP filter in the handy dandy POP filter rules window box with a Filter Criteria of message contains .exe message contains .scr because message is what the kmail help page suggested for filtering the entire contents. But no joy. I'm not worried about them running, I just don't like them clogging up my mail. Any helpful hints?? Am I interpreting the concept of mail server correctly (that is, the mail server is my earthlink isp that stores my email). Thanks! Don't think POP filters can filter on message, seems to be only available for regular filters. Looks to me like POP filters can only filter on the message header. HTH, Tim -- Fedora Core 1, Kernel 2.4.22-1.2115.nptl, KDE 3.1.4, Xfree86 4.3.0 09:35:00 up 5 days, 16:01, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.44, 0.82 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spamassassin's sa-learn
did you train the filter by flagging all those slipped messages as junk? iF you just delete them, the filter would not be improved! I've been using Moz Firebird as my only email for quite some time now. And have been somewhat disappointed in the filters. It catches alot of the junk right away, but it doesn't seem to be learning. I get the same spam from the same scammers every day and no matter how many times I flag it as junk it continues to show up. But it is a 0.7 Beta so I don't want to be critical of it, just hope they flesh it out in the near future. -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.22-xfs ^ ^11:26pm up 5 days, 12:19, 1 user, load average: 0.99, 0.97, 0.96 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spamassassin's sa-learn
M.W. Chang wrote: did you train the filter by flagging all those slipped messages as junk? iF you just delete them, the filter would not be improved! Yes. I always hit the 'Junk' button which promptly gets them out of my sight and into the Junk folder. This seemed to work great on Mozilla but I suspect something is unfinished in Thunderbird. The same messages just keep getting thru. Likely it will be working in a later beta release. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: code for control+...?
Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the probably stupid question, but it's killing me... I need to write a expect script where the pressing of the control key+ something needs to be detected. The man page has an example set CTRLZ \032 where the code \032 corresponds to Control-Z. Now, how can I know the codes corresponding to other combinations (e.g. Control-space)? TIA, Greetings, Get yourself an ascii table. Here's a pretty one but you can google for others if you like. http://www.mindspring.com/~joeja/programs.html#PHP The first column shows the control codes produced by the alpha keys in the third column. The keys in the second column don't produce control codes. The lowercase keys either don't produce control codes or produce the same codes as the uppercase key. I'm not sure which. For example, the Z key (132 octal) produces the SUB control character (032 octal). Chris ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: newbie kmail filter ques.
On Saturday 15 November 2003 06:50 am, Tim Wunder wrote: snip Don't think POP filters can filter on message, seems to be only available for regular filters. Looks to me like POP filters can only filter on the message header. HTH, Tim Yeah, I saw that, too, and typed in message. It stuck but maybe it didn't work. Bummer! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
what does these mean?
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 554 cm61-10-50-59.hkcable.com.hk[61.10.50.59]: Client host rejected: Host rejected because of spam it sent.) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to kiezmar.lodz.tpsa.pl.: DATA 554 cm61-10-50-59.hkcable.com.hk[61.10.50.59]: Client host rejected: Host rejected because of spam it sent. 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable 554 Error: no valid recipients BTW, I have set up my sendmail as a mail server and my ISP hkcable didn't block outgoing traffic from port 25. How could it intercept and reject this message sent from my sendmail directly? -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.22-xfs ^ ^1:00am up 5 days, 13:53, 0 users, load average: 0.99, 0.97, 0.98 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spamassassin's sa-learn
I had that problem with spam-assassin' Bayesian filter. I actually tried using the Junk folder of mozilla to train SA (sa-learn --mbox --spam Junk). Until now, there are still some Chinese junk messages passing through the sanity check of SA. Michael Hipp wrote: Yes. I always hit the 'Junk' button which promptly gets them out of my sight and into the Junk folder. This seemed to work great on Mozilla but I suspect something is unfinished in Thunderbird. The same messages just keep getting thru. Likely it will be working in a later beta release. -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.22-xfs ^ ^1:04am up 5 days, 13:57, 0 users, load average: 0.99, 0.97, 0.98 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: tar + bunzip2
With COL 3.1 you can use the long option --use-compress-program=bzip2. Check out `info tar` for all the long short options. cmr On Friday 14 November 2003 07:35 pm, M.W. Chang wrote: Even COL 3.1 doesn't have the -j and --bzip option. I will use the bzcat2 | tar - method. thanks. # tar -xjvf file.tar.bz2 Yup. I'm running various SuSE distributions from 8.1-9.0 and they all have this option. My only remaining Caldera box (eD2.4), however, does not. It appears to have been added in newer versions of GNU tar. -- Debian 'Sarge': Registered Linux User #241964 More laws, less justice. -- Marcus Tullius Ciceroca, 42 BC ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
Net Llama! wrote: Well, then i must just be lucky, because I didn't need to go through any of that ordeal. All I had to do was upgrade to the last glibc release (late yesterday) and the problems created by the former (from early yesterday) were solved. Granted, I'm using my own 2.4.22-xfs kernel, and not Redhat's, so perhaps that is why i'm not as plagued by this fiasco as others. I have my self rolled 2.4.22 kernel too with some mutimedia patches (low latency etc). I guess, in my case it might have been an i368 vs. i686 issue: glibc rpm is one of the rare packages supplied in architecture specific versions, and I fear, apt-get (which otherwise I highly praise) didn't handle this correctly and upgraded ...i686 to ... i383. I can't reproduce this now, but I will keep an eye on apt-get in this respect. Klaus ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: code for control+...?
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Chris Kassopulo wrote: Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the probably stupid question, but it's killing me... I need to write a expect script where the pressing of the control key+ something needs to be detected. The man page has an example set CTRLZ \032 where the code \032 corresponds to Control-Z. Now, how can I know the codes corresponding to other combinations (e.g. Control-space)? TIA, Greetings, Get yourself an ascii table. Here's a pretty one but you can google for others if you like. http://www.mindspring.com/~joeja/programs.html#PHP The first column shows the control codes produced by the alpha keys in the third column. The keys in the second column don't produce control codes. The lowercase keys either don't produce control codes or produce the same codes as the uppercase key. I'm not sure which. For example, the Z key (132 octal) produces the SUB control character (032 octal). Thank you for the tip. I didn't know what kind of code I was looking for. The link above doesn't tell me how to get Control-A (for example), but I found it here: http://www.hyperdictionary.com/computing/ascii+character+table Regards, Jorge Almeida ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StarOffice 7 reviewed in Wall Street Journal
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 01:12, Joel Hammer wrote: He also noted that MS is stealthily reducing the price of its consumer software. You can buy an academic copy, which can be installed up to three times, at stores, and have only the weakest link to a full time student, or none. This runs about $150 dollars. So, the pricing differential is getting much less. This tends to support my contention that the biggest beneficiaries of the linux movement will be current MS users who don't switch to linux. Office 2003 for home use is over $350 US in Sweden. And that is the cheapest of their offerings I saw. The student thing surely exists as well. So my $50 US for SO 7 is not too bad. -- Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: code for control+...?
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:15:10 -0500 Chris Kassopulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the probably stupid question, but it's killing me... I need to write a expect script where the pressing of the control key+ Greetings, Get yourself an ascii table. Here's a pretty one but you can google for others if you like. man ascii -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: newbie kmail filter ques.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:50:23 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2003 9:28 am, someone claiming to be Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi; Not being an expert with filters, I ask the assembled experts. This is a kmail (which I use as a mail client) specific question. I wish to set up a POP filter so that MS executables and scripts in I think you need imap to do that sort of filtering... -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: code for control+...?
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:05, Jorge Almeida wrote: Sorry for the probably stupid question, but it's killing me... I need to write a expect script where the pressing of the control key+ something needs to be detected. The man page has an example set CTRLZ \032 where the code \032 corresponds to Control-Z. Now, how can I know the codes corresponding to other combinations (e.g. Control-space)? TIA, Are you trying to use 'bind'? Anyway, look at that man page (for tcl, not tcp). It discusses keystrokes. If you are after the 'raw' values, and not the logical ones tcl nicely provides in a system independent manner, then you are at the mercy of the system originating the key press. It ceases to be a tcl question. Here is one very stupid trick I use to decode keypresses. Start vi, then press 'i', Then press Ctrl-v. Then press the key you want. Then press the escape key. Save the file. It will contain the keystroke. Dump it with od. Although I use Tcl/Tk quite a bit, I have only used expect a bit. I would imagine there were some hooks to help with this. Just good old bind, if nothing else. ( ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: newbie kmail filter ques.
On Saturday 15 November 2003 11:09 am, Alan Jackson wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:50:23 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2003 9:28 am, someone claiming to be Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi; Not being an expert with filters, I ask the assembled experts. This is a kmail (which I use as a mail client) specific question. I wish to set up a POP filter so that MS executables and scripts in I think you need imap to do that sort of filtering... OK, thanks. Found lots of stuff on Google about imap. Reading comes next. Appears to be a compact Linux Journal article about just this task. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: code for control+...?
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Are you trying to use 'bind'? No. Here is one very stupid trick I use to decode keypresses. Start vi, then press 'i', Then press Ctrl-v. Then press the key you want. Then press the escape key. Save the file. It will contain the keystroke. Dump it with od. Actually, I find it a clever trick, and it solves my problem! As you may have guessed, I'm not really a programmer, just an amateur. I knew (after posting) about Control-V in vim, but not about od. Although I use Tcl/Tk quite a bit, I have only used expect a bit. I would imagine there were some hooks to help with this. I have the Exploring Expect book, which doesn't seem to help in this specific matter. Thanks! Jorge Almeida ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
