Re: Love on board
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 17:25, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > I tried to clue the management in on the > product's status; but the manager I spoke to has never heard the term "sunk > cost". More likely he has and that's why he's still trying to sell it. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: pictures from the desert
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 20:39, Net Llama! wrote: > On 11/09/03 16:12, burns wrote: > > > On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 12:07, Net Llama! wrote: > > > >>If anyone is interested, i just returned from a trip to the deserts of > >>California & Nevada (specifically the area in & around Death Valley). I've > >>got alot of pictures posted here: > >>http://netllama.linux-sxs.org/pix/ > > > > > > Nice pics, Lonnie. What are the 'beehive' buildings? > > Charcoal Kilns: Ahhh. I was afraid you were going to tell me they were ancient Druid dwellings. Presumably, they had some wood to make the charcoal from... it looks mostly like scrub-brush, e.g. mesquite, et al. -- Burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 22:22, Matthew Carpenter wrote: > Let's just hope Novell has lost their Reverse-Midas touch... > Novell spawned Caldera. I hope this works out better for everyone. Am I dreaming, or did I read somewhere Ransom Love had a stake in this? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Braindead Windows
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 11:36, Collins Richey wrote: > Just another proof of the maxim: If you don't know sh*t, you will be put in > charge of those who do. Hey, that's me! -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: pictures from the desert
On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 12:07, Net Llama! wrote: > If anyone is interested, i just returned from a trip to the deserts of > California & Nevada (specifically the area in & around Death Valley). I've > got alot of pictures posted here: > http://netllama.linux-sxs.org/pix/ Nice pics, Lonnie. What are the 'beehive' buildings? -- Burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: test message
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 17:35, Keith Morse wrote: > Please ignore. Speak louder, I'm ignoring you. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Gentoo's "emerge" ported to Slackware 9.1
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 04:50, James McDonald wrote: > > > What does Emerde mean in French? Merde is french for sh*t. Presumably eMerde is web-enabled sh*t. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I need a distro recommendation!
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 13:12, Leon Goldstein wrote: > I went with Libranet 1.9.0 when I gave up on > Corel Linux, which gave up on its users. Or more correctly: 'Corel Linux, produced by the financially troubled Corel Corp, who coincidentally abandoned the Linux in all their product lines after a sizable (and timely) investment by Microsoft.' -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [linux-elitists] SCO 8K
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 16:44, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > > - - BayStar appears to be the smaller of two investors in this deal. Anybody > have any idea why the Royal Bank of Canada would pump $30 million into > SCO? > > - - Microsoft has fed them another $8 million. I can't see Royal Bank doing this for any other reason that on the behest of an investor. I have some mutuals invested with Royal Bank. I think I'll ask. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The SCO Group Closes $50 Million Equity Financing
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 01:04, Myles Green wrote: > $50 Million Private Investment Transaction Led by BayStar Capital > Provides SCO With Funding for Future Software Development, SCOx Web > Services Partnerships And Acquisitions, Future Licensing Opportunities > and the Protection of the Company's Intellectual Property Assets > > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031016/lath130_1.html > > freakin' SCOx suckers >:-/ A private investment group... I wonder where the capital would trace back to, eventually? Now for something entirely different, does anyone recall what MS intends to use some of that $1Billion war fund for? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Has open software gone nuts?
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 13:59, Collins Richey wrote: > > What I read from this is an interpretation of the GPL that could loosely be > expressed as "what is mine is mine, what is yours is also mine." Oh dear... I read it as throwing a roadblock in front of a company who has attempted to adopt the approach: "what's mine is mine, and whats *ours* I will also make mine when I want it to be." -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO Woes III: 6 weeks later. I still can't buy a license from SCO.
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 12:22, Bruce Marshall wrote: > Hasn't it occurred to you that they don't want to sell you a license > because if their IP claims are proven false... they could be charged > with fraud?? It's just more smoke and mirrors. > Fraud is a criminal charge. It would only be fraud if it could be proven that they had *intent* to defraud in full knowledge that they had no valid claim to the IP. Proving that they just weren't mistaken (which so far is not illegal) would be extremely difficult. Their *civil* liability, in the event they are proven wrong, is entirely another matter. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Greylisting
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 07:36, David A. Bandel wrote: > > Two anti-spam programs working at cross purposes. So unless one of us > manually white-lists the other, we'll never be able to correspond. Greylisting, in general, and especially if widely adopted and imperfectly implemented, has the potential to break the internet. Basically I see this and other forms of midstream vigilanteism as being the 'chemotherapy' of spam... it can discourage spam, but it also kills healthy mail in the process. Don't get me wrong - spam is abuse and spammers are a sleazy lower life-form. But this isn't the answer. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maximum Memory in Linux
Before you go re-rolling kernels, check this out: http://kb.redhat.com/view.php?eid=71 -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sharing an inbox in kmail
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 10:42, Tom Wilson wrote: > Is there a way to import mail from kmail with Evolution. I messed with > using it when I initially setup op this pc but I couldn't get all my > mail from Kmail to import to it. Same problem with sylpheed. So I > stuck with using Kmail. > > I use Evolution at work (As I send these e-mails from it) and I like it > ok. >From Ximian HELP: - Ximian Evolution can import the following types of files: VCard (.vcf, gcrd): The addressbook format used by the GNOME, KDE, and many other contact management applications. You should be able to export to VCard format from any address book application. iCalendar (.ics): A format for storing calendar files. iCalendar is used by PalmOS based handhelds, Ximian Evolution, and Microsoft Outlook. Microsoft Outlook Express 4 (.mbx): Email file format used by Microsoft Outlook Express 4. For other versions of Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express, see the workaround described in the note below. MBox (mbox): The email box format used by Mozilla, Netscape, Ximian Evolution, Eudora, and many other email clients. To import your old email: 1. Click File->Import. 2. Click Next after reading the Welcome screen. 3. Select Import a single file. 4. Find the file that you wish to import into Evolution. 5. Click Import -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Laptop suggestions
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 11:34, Jerry McBride wrote: > You got a lot of suggestions on this one, Joel, but no one suggested > Panasonic. If you are into really working with your notebook, like taking > them to construction work sites, etc, Panasonic makes a toughbook series that > is just about indestructable. I saw one demonstrated one time where the sales > rep slid a closed laptop off a desk onto the concrete apron at poolside. He > did this over and over again during his sales pitch. At the end of the speech > he dipped it into the pool and opened... it proceded to boot and work > perfectly. Try that with your run of the mill laptop... ;') > Yup. A friend of mine who works for the US Army swears that he was at a Toughbook demo for the military at Fort Bragg, where the Panasonic rep paused his PowerPoint slide presentation, closed the lid, threw the laptop out the groundfloor window, where they had a Hummer run over it. It was then handed back through the same window, where the sales rep plugged it back into the projector and resumed his presentation where he left off, hardly breaking stride. The Brigade Commander bought them on the spot. Bring money -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Laptop suggestions
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 15:00, Michael Hipp wrote: > Net Llama! wrote: > > yea, Thinkpads are very nice, and are virtually indestructable. My > > employer gave me a T20 (somewhat older, PIII-700, 512MB RAM), and it is > > also running RH9 + XFCE4. > > Here's another vote for ThinkPads. I've owned several and all worked > flawlessly - very well built. I'm currently using a 240Z (thanks, dep) > which is small and lightweight. Bought it refurbed on eBay for something > like $600. It dual-boots XP Pro and RH9. Even the WinModem works. > > Dell laptops are good also, but I don't know how they play with Linux. > We had about 500 Thinkpads in circulation here in our offices in Ottawa. They were our staple desktop for "consultants-on-the-go." However about 3 years ago we started to have a lot of problems with power supplies and batteries. Other than that, they were tough and dependable. We still use a few in the Lab for mobile testing. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sharing an inbox in kmail
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 23:05, Tom Wilson wrote: > Hi all > > My wife and I have an e-mail address that we share for general > corresponce with friends and family. She is getting tired of having > to have me login under my username so she can see any e-mail that she > gets that I happened to download. > > Any recommendations on a method so we can share the inbox for our shared > e-mail account? > > I looked at Kmail filtering a copy of every message downloaded into her > $HOME/Mail/inbox file but there is only a move to option not a copy to. If you can put up with Ximian Evolution mail, their filter rules allow you to 'Copy To' a specified folder or mailbox, et volia! -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TEST
OK, when? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: from an sco press release today
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 20:13, dep wrote: > i pretty much agree with you, but what i thought was significant was a > company, in court, saying that the gpl won't hold up. this is what > we've been waiting for and to some extent feared (court is always a > crap shoot, usually with a bunch of highly paid guys shooting nothing > but) for some time. it cranks up the stakes considerably -- a *whole > lot* is going to be riding on this particular roll of the dice. that > having been said, i have every confidence in the ability of david boies > to do for sco what he did for algore. Interesting that IBM's market cap is almost the same as that of SCO *except in Billions instead of millions*! There is no doubt that this is getting up the nose of the folks in Big Blue, big time. They could easily buy SCO with IBM lunch money, but at this point I'm pretty certain they don't want to give SCO the satisfaction. Instead they probably plan to drive them into the ground by litigating them all the way down into a Chapter 11. Good, they deserve it, the slime balls. IBM has basically bet the farm on Linux, they cannot afford to lose and will not allow Linux or Open Source to be emperilled by the Lunatics from Lindon. You know, it's impossible to see what's going on, understanding what has also probably put things in motion behind the scenes, and stay neutral. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: from an sco press release today
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 11:11, dep wrote: > SCO Says IBM's Amended Complaint, Based on GPL, is Built on a Shaky > Foundation > > LINDON, Utah-September 29, 2003-The SCO Group, Inc. (NASDAQ: SCOX) > today made the following announcement: > > On Friday, September 26, IBM filed an amendment to its legal complaint > against The SCO Group. In this amended complaint IBM asserts that SCO > has violated the GNU General Public License (GPL), and based on this > violation has then violated certain IBM copyrights. IBM, not SCO, has > brought the GPL into the legal controversy between the two companies. > SCO believes that the GPL -- created by the Free Software Foundation to > supplant current U.S. copyright laws -- is a shaky foundation on which > to build a legal case. By contrast, SCO continues to base its legal > claims on well-settled United States contract laws and United States > copyright laws. > > The GPL has never faced a full legal test, and SCO believes that it will > not stand up in court. We are confident that SCO will win the legal > battle that IBM has now started over the GPL. By so strongly defending > the controversial GPL, IBM is also defending a questionable licensing > scheme through which it can avoid providing software indemnification > for its customers. We continue to urge IBM to provide legal > indemnification for its Linux customers. Ballocks -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE vs Knoppix
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 06:52, Squabsy wrote: > I have read a lot of favourable press recently about knoppix and > wondered if anyone would care to comment on the realative > advantages/disadvantages of Suse Vs Knoppix I've used Suse 8.2 and find it to be a good distro, especially if you like a smooth gui, with lots of 'bells and whistles' I've not used Knoppix and therefore can't comment on it. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cablemodem and wireless network
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 17:21, burns wrote: > I bought and employed a > D-Link router (RP-614). I was not happy with this solution - I found it > to be cheaply built and flaky, especially the firmware. Basically, you > get what you pay for. I have since bought a Linksys 8 port wired > cable/dsl router and it is a world of difference from the D-Link product > - a much better, more mature and stable product. YMMV. Ooops! Change D-Link to read Netgear. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SIGNATURE
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 18:29, Collins Richey wrote: > My favorite signature in recent days (on gentoo forums): > > "SCO has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down." > > enjoy. He he he Excellent. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cablemodem and wireless network
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 13:31, Harry Giles wrote: > Sorry for the dumb questions, but before I spend the money: > > 1.With a cable modem, can you just connect it to the network hub, or do you > need to use a router, as with adsl? > > > 2. Does Linux support the wireless 802.11g standard? > > > 3. Is Netgear and D-Link products Linux friendly? > I use DSL. I had my cable modem connected directly to an ipchains ipforwarding firewall pc, with a physical NIC in and another on the internal subnet side. This worked well for a number of years until the box finally gave up the ghost (it was an old PI-233). Rather than build another, I decided to try an appliance solution. I bought and employed a D-Link router (RP-614). I was not happy with this solution - I found it to be cheaply built and flaky, especially the firmware. Basically, you get what you pay for. I have since bought a Linksys 8 port wired cable/dsl router and it is a world of difference from the D-Link product - a much better, more mature and stable product. YMMV. HUB: I have not found the need to connect a hub or switch to the router, although there is no reason why it couldn't be done. With the 8 port router, I just don't see any reason to complicate my subnet. In networking, as in most things, simpler is better. WIRELESS: I do a lot of work at home in the evenings. I'm not fanatical about it, but I do try to maintain a basic level of security. I don't yet trust the security in most wirless/WAP implementations... in some there is no more security than a CB radio. CISCO makes an excellent secure wireless router, but who can afford that for home use? It depends on which way you tip the scales - convenience or security. If you do go with a router instead of a firewall, you should consider adding a firewall somewhere, even if it's at the client level and uses the one that comes bundled with Suse and Redhat. Basic system hardening and shutting down unnecessary services on each box should, of course, be standard. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Can't authenticate to ipop3d (SOLVED!)
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 21:19, Kurt Wall wrote: > http://www.circlemud.org/~jelson/software/tcpflow/ > domo aregato, kurt-san (or something like that) -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Can't authenticate to ipop3d (SOLVED!)
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 20:49, Bill Campbell wrote: > FWIW, tcpflow is a program that's very useful for debugging things like > this. It is very similar to tcpdump except that it creates files for each > connection (e.g. one for the connection from the pop/imap client to the > server, and another for the return traffic). The tcpflow command line > arguments are pretty much the same as for tcpdump enabling you to look at > specific hosts and ports. Ooook? [EMAIL PROTECTED] burns]# cd / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# locate tcpflow [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# next stop sourceforge I 'spose, or do you have a source link? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The spammers are winning
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 08:45, David A. Bandel wrote: > Most likely no one on this list falls into this category, but if you > know anyone who has a company that grosses more than 100 million a year > and an influential politician in their pocket, they need to start > lobbying hard to stop spam and push ARIN, APNIC, RIPE, LANIC to revoke > IP addresses of countries like China and Brasil who only care about spam > when it concerns their own citizens. Everything I have read indicates that in China, unlike most other countries, state security agencies have a significant amount of control over online activities, especially those routed to or from foreign addresses. In fact, I believe that internet use is licensed and regulated by their internal security department. If this is in any way true, it would be hard to imagine that they haven't noticed, and at least turned a blind eye to, the massive amount of spam and trojans orginating from PRC domains. Interesting. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: recording wavs
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 06:00, Squabsy wrote: > Yes indeed I'm in Sunny :-D Bournemouth on the south coast. For 36 years > (I haven't roamed very far I'm afraid) I lived in Northwood, about 6 miles from Watford. The village is split. Half is in the Hillingdon borough of Greater London. The other half is in Hertfordshire. We lived on the Herts side. I enjoyed living in the UK. Wouldn't mind going back some day for a visit. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: recording wavs
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 04:33, Squabsy wrote: > Having spent the weekend playing around with it and using TOP to see > what's going on I have come to the conclusion that all the Linux > softwares I have been trying are indeed storing the file up in RAM then > in my swap partition then hanging when it gets full. > The Windows software I use on the other hand (CDWAVE) writes the file > straight to disk with no temporary files. > Bummer. This is what I feared. > I have 256k ram and a swap partition of 512mb I can't seem to be able to > (nor do I think it's a particularly good idea) increase the size of my > swap partition. > > Is the only way I can have more success then increase the RAM ? or is > there a Linux program that writes straight to disk ? > Even if I click the straight to disk option in audacity it still fills my > ram/swap partition Some (most?) Linux applications will grab and hold large amounts of memory, whether or mot they are actually using it (watch Mozilla, or worse yet, Star Office launch some time). In this case, however, it certainly sounds like the system is running out of memory and swap, then hanging. This makes sense given the size of the files you are working with. You can resize your swap file (See the Step at http://sxs.sourceforge.net/sxs/index2.html). But no-one likes to work with files that size out of swap. It takes forever while your hard disk is thrashing itself silly. If it were me, I'd opt for more physical RAM - it's fairly inexpensive at the moment. I believe you are in the UK? Where? I lived there for four years, from 93-97. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Please Please Please - Stop the anti-them pro-us retoric
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 10:56, Net Llama! wrote: > On 09/21/03 06:02, burns wrote: > > Frankly, I find the differences in view fascinating. > > > > If you don't, it's pretty easy to filter on the thread/subject. > > > > That's why there is a general list. It doesn't belong here. I agree - it does belong on the General list. My response was aimed at whether or not people should be told to stop discussing altogether, regardless of list. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Please Please Please - Stop the anti-them pro-us retoric
Frankly, I find the differences in view fascinating. If you don't, it's pretty easy to filter on the thread/subject. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Program Snapshot
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 19:44, Ben Duncan wrote: > Unfortunately, the program was not compiled with debug, so that > is out of the question. > > What I am wanting to do, is like the OLD debug program > that was in MS-DOS, where you could step thru and OR see the > ASM code. > > I am wanting to follow what the program is doing, and it is a > "foreign" binary (Coff), so it has to be running. > Sigh... per my (much) earlier post, please check out 'man strace' Following are excerpts from the man intro: "It intercepts and records the system calls which are called by a process and the signals which are received by a process. The name of each system call, its arguments and its return value are printed on standard error or to the file specified with the -o option." "...a close examination of this boundary is very useful for bug isolation, sanity checking and attempting to capture race conditions." "Each line in the trace contains the system call name, followed by its arguments in parentheses and its return value." If a program fails, strace shows the point at which it failed and the process involved. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: email attack
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 14:10, dep wrote: > > New Category 3 Worm/Virus: Swen.A (Yes, that's 'news' backwards) > http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yup. Also: http://www.cert.org/current/current_activity.html#swena Looks like it could be a nasty precursor to other attacks... it attempts to disable all security products on the infected host. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Program Snapshot
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 21:33, Ben Duncan wrote: > Is there a way to do a "core" image/snapshot of a running program? > > I do not have the source for the thing, and need to figure out what it > is doing. strace ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 15:38, Michael Hipp wrote: > > (I thought we were talking about Microsoft?) > Actually, we are. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: recording wavs
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 16:44, Net Llama! wrote: > > yes, that's the load at the instant that you ran the command. were you > attempting to encode a wav when you ran that? if so, then the load > appears to be fine. you might want to just run 'top' the entire time to > see what is going on across the board (cpu, memory, load). It is at all possible that this is a memory issue? With a file that big, if your audio application tries to fit it all in memory, and you only have 256MB and a correspondingly small swap file, then it may be running out and truncating the file. I know with graphics files this can happen... just a thought, YMMV -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DNS and DMZ help needed
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 12:17, John C. Voigt wrote: > Hi, > > I'm in the process of setting up our network at work, as the Feds unplugged our old > one. We have a Cisco PIX 515 firewall (not ours) between the router and our LAN with > a DMZ port. > > I have a DNS server in the DMZ to answer external queries. DNS is NATted from an > external IP (68.72.56.147) to the DMZ (192.168.100.0/24). The DNS is supposed to > answer queries from the outside address, and allow zone transfers to our off-site > secondary. The strange thing is that a query to the DNS server from itself > (poplar.reclamation.dnr.state.in.us) gives it's correct address (68.72.56.147). From > our secondary and other nameservers "out there", it resolves to it's DMZ address, > which of course, is non-routable. > > Any help to point me in the right direction on how to correct this would be most > appreciated. > Why do you have a class C subnet address on the DNS box, anyway? If it is in the the DMZ, it stands to reason that it is outside your protected subnet.Why not leave it with a routable IP and just point your private boxes at it through the gateway? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Bill Gates Demo Uses Linux
"NEW YORKâBill Gates and IBM Software chief Steve Mills joined together here today to give an update on their companies' combined work in advancing Web services. In an intimate setting at the St. Regis Hotel, Gates, Microsoft Corp.'s chief software architect and chairman, and Mills, IBM Software Group's senior vice president and general manager, demonstrated for the first time reliable messaging and secure, authenticated transactions across a federated, heterogeneous environment. They also announced that they plan to take the specifications used to pull off the demonstration, and which the companies have been developing for three years, to open standards bodies soon, and that they would not seek royalties for the specs." "(It should be noted that the backend of the demo was a Linux server running WebSphere and Windows Server 2003, and a Sharp Zaurus PDA running Linux and the Opera browser was used as one of the clients.)" -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: any acrobat experts here?
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 18:33, Tim Wunder wrote: > Hmmm... > Doesn't look like I even *have* an enscript executable... > # locate enscript > /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/filters/enscript.desktop > /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/filters/enscript.xml > /opt/kde3/share/apps/kdeprint/filters/enscript.desktop > /opt/kde3/share/apps/kdeprint/filters/enscript.xml > /opt/kde32/share/apps/kdeprint/filters/enscript.desktop > /opt/kde32/share/apps/kdeprint/filters/enscript.xml On this box I am running RH9. It shows an enscript binary in: /usr/bin/enscript And a config file in: /etc/enscript.cfg -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh public key frustration
On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 21:57, Net Llama! wrote: > > Are we talking about the same things here? I'm talking about ssh public > key authentication. It sounds like you're talking about the public PGP key > that RH uses to verify RPM releases. Ooops. I believe you're right. I was talking about their client-side SSL certificate fiasco. I think I took this out of context... that'll teach me to jump in in mid-stream. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh public key frustration
On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 12:38, Net Llama! wrote: > I've setup & used ssh public keys many times before. All of a sudden, i > can't get it to work at all. It works on the boxes where i've set it up in > the past, but new ones just fail to work. > I've set up several boxes here at home over the past two weeks (RH8 + RH9) and had to update the SSL key on each of them. The trick seems to be that you also have to update the 'up2date' client software as well. If you follow the instructions on the Red Hat Network faithfully, it seems to work. But I agree, it is an awful way that they have implemented this. Downloading this degree of kludgey complexity onto your customers is not good business. For us it's OK - we can figure it out eventually. But what about those first time linux users that have just bought a boxed set and don't know a console command from a potato? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Server question
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 21:28, Tom Condon wrote: > Thanks again, all. As a novice at servers I *knew* I'd left > several things out. How do you plan on configuring security? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO speaks the truth
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 02:41, Terence McCarthy wrote: > "Clearly, we made decisions which have ruined our company, so we've got to sue to > try and recover share price. Otherwise a clearly better business model, Linux, which > is gaining ground daily, will wipe out most current proprietry software companies." > > Close enough? My take is "Clearly, we were almost taken over by a Linux company, but we managed to wrestle them into submission during the merger. Now we are going to make sure these Linux assholes pay dearly by striking back." -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Helloooooo...
Where did everyone go? I haven't received any list mail today. Or is it my mail/ISP? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
SwapOver
I may be incommunicado for a day or two while I change over dsl providers. Apparently, (as I am also transferring my personal domain administration) the dns change is what takes the most time. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: GTK Ticked-Off
On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 13:10, Collins Richey wrote: > I was only curious why you had singled out GTK, since this is such a > common practice. M Only that they were the one that p*ssed me off this morning during an attempted install of something that ended up in a failed GTK version dependency. That's all. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: test
On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 12:00, Marianne Taylor wrote: > I have been trying to send messages to the list for two days. Trying > another mail program? A-OK -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: GTK Ticked-Off
On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 11:20, Collins Richey wrote: > > Maybe you should widen your field of vision. The problem is, my field of vision *is* much wider - wider than OS software. This really is one of the major limitations to the acceptance of open source solutions by leading system integrators and IT service companies. Thus the reason for my rant. In this case, we're not talking about a personal media-player. We're talking about fairly serious development tools that can affect hundreds of software projects and dependent applications. I work for one of the largest IT services company in North America. Things like this are invariably considered fairly serious problems in product selection/due diligence evaluations for a client's architecture. It makes it harder to sell Linux and common Linux applications. > Almost everything in the > open software arena is done this way - glibc, kernel, qt, kde, gnome. > The few closed source vendors (ex. Realplay) who choose to offer their > product for linux fight this battle every day. The only reason I can > still use Realplay is that Mozilla offers binaries and gentoo offers a > compatability library series that allows use of the older glibc/gcc > combination. > For Linux to be accepted across the board, major issues such as this need to be addressed. It's OK for small boutique software offerings. But if Linux wants to play seriously at the enterprise level, there is a certain amount of discipline that will have to be adopted by the community. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: GTK Ticked-Off
On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 10:40, Net Llama! wrote: > > Isn't QT-2 & QT-3 incompatible with QT1 clients? > Probably . I 'trolled' the Trolltech site and their documentation, but they seem to avoid any discussion of version compatibility. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
GTK Ticked-Off
Whose friends with someone in the GTK dev group? Tell them to get their sh*t together. Why on earth would they make GTK 2.* incompatible with GTK 1.* clients? Bulletin for these morons: backwards compatiblity *is* a best practise and development objective. Just tried to install Nessus on my new RH8.0 playbox.Guess I'll have to forego the gui. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux now avaible in stores
On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 09:38, Joel Hammer wrote: > Michael's Minute: Tipping Point - PC Club > > Today, we announced that PC Club is now stocking LindowsOS computers on > store shelves in more than 50 stores. This marks the first time that > a retail chain has committed to desktop Linux by putting computers on... Is this really the first time... ISTR CompUSA, or Best Buy, or another big box store offering el cheapo (+/-$300) computers running Linux a year or two ago. Nay? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Scanner Genius vivid Pro 4
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 19:25, Bruno Vieira wrote: > Hi everyone. > > Do someone here have already installed a Genius Vivid Pro 4 Scanner > under Linux. I've never heard of this scanner. > I googled about that but i couldn't find anything especific for this > scanner. I'm not surprised. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: suse 8.0 pro
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 18:15, Richard Sivernell wrote: > Burnsie (?!) > > Could it be by chance Love, Ransom style. > Bingo! Lonesome Love - sounds like a Robert Duval movie doesn't it? I wonder if he escaped from Caldera with a bag of dubloons? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: another nail ?
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 19:22, Collins Richey wrote: > The laughing point he makes is that the new, spiffy M$ Server will not > run existing M$ applications!!! Why would anyone deal with a company > like this? Oh gawd, what a question. I've been asking myself this for years - and I'm in the business. Mostly I think it's because we now have a generation of IT managers who don't know anything else and don't want to adopt an environment that will reveal that. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: suse 8.0 pro
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 16:41, Bruce Marshall wrote: > Be on your own?? Gee, I thought you had lots of friends here... :-) > > (not all of them like SuSE tho... :-) I liked Suse until they got in bed with Caldera's weird United Linux consortium. 1) Why is the SCO site down (again)? 2) Given their anti-Linux, anti-Open Source rants, why has SCO been running a Linux Apache server for the past year (to date) according to Netcraft? 3) For Kurt - what the Hell was Caldera's old CEO's name... the one that subverted SuSe? I should remember, he came to Ottawa for a meeting with me. Don't mind me - it's early onset Oldzheimer's. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: another nail ?
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 17:56, Keith Antoine wrote: > EWEEK: ENTERPRISE LINUX VS SERVER 2003 : SMACKDOWN! > > "What's this? People whining about the cost of serious Linux > enterprise use? Folks get real? Have you priced Microsoft Server > 2003 lately...?" > I traded emails with the author. The point he's trying to make is with regard to support services (i.e. for enterprises). Apparently some companies think that just because the source code is free, the 24/7 support services should be too. He's trying to point out that supporting Linux does have a cost. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Front Page
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 15:36, Wil McGilvery wrote: > I was afraid of this answer. This is a hugely bloated web site. I am shutting down > my last Windows IIS machine and everything will be hosted on apache. > Someone else suggested a server switch that would allow FP pages to run. Sorta like runiing Windows in VMWare on Linux, I object to that in principal. The real improvement would be to clean up the html. HOWEVER, there are always the practical considerations that drive the 'art of the possible.' I think you've got a number of options now. Maybe a combination of both... do what you have to to get the pages to run now, and maintain a longer-term project to clean them up, as you get time, page-by-page. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Netgear ethernet switch froze
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 17:18, Joel Hammer wrote: > On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 01:46:25PM -0400, burns wrote: > > Have you updated the firmware in your Netgear lately? I have a RP614 > No. I didn't know it could be updated. Yes. Don't. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Comcast looking for competent SysAdmins?
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 13:25, Bill Campbell wrote: > Unfortunately ATTBI and COMCAST didn't continue these policies. While this > is nice for the folks on the Linux list, the net effect has been to make > the COMCAST network a major source of network abuse. It has gotten so bad > that some major U.S. broadband providers have blocked smtp from all or part > of the comcast network. OK, I can see blocking a domain or ISP because of their demonstrated inability to maintain the integrity of their own network. But to blackhole all broadband dhcp originators just on principle is draconian. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Front Page
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 10:57, Wil McGilvery wrote: > > > I have a web site from a customer that has asked me to convert his Front > Page site to be workable on apache. > > To do this and have the web site still work with front page all the > spaces in file names/links need to be removed and uppercase/lowercase > issues resolved. > > Is there any easy way to do this? > Use an office document editor, such as Open Office Writer or (shudder) MS Word. Use the global search/replace and change case features to edit the code. When you are all done, cut and paste it into a non-binary(?) editor such as VIM or Notebook and finalize all you html edits - or open the edited version in a proper HTML editor. IMHO, certain WYSWIG editors such as Front Page or MS Publisher produce huge bloated and non-standard html pages. It's very labor-intensive to try and clean up afterward. I would avoid them like the plague if at all possible. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Netgear ethernet switch froze
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 09:41, Joel Hammer wrote: > This morning my internal network was down. The problem was the netgear > switch box. It was accepting signals but not transferring them to > recipients. Unplugging it and plugging it back in solved the problem. Have you updated the firmware in your Netgear lately? I have a RP614 router. I upgraded the firmware to the *correct* latest version and experienced all kinds of problems... truncated transactions, etc. I contacted Netgear in California (forget the tech support line - it's useless) and spoke to one of their product engineers. He agreed that the release seemed flaky. I zeroed the router back to the default firmware version and it's been fine ever since. Other than that, I have been very pleased with it and you certainly can't beat the price. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Ive been listed in list.dsbl.org - how do I configure so as to get unlisted
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 13:13, Bill Campbell wrote: > More often they're only attempting to protect their networks from abuse. > They are accountable to the people who own the systems and pay them. The > volume of spam and other network abuse is truly astounding, and the > professional spammers aren't stupid. Perhaps I see more of this than the > average person on this list because I have been selling and supporting > systems for regional ISPs around the U.S. for about ten years. All of what you say is true and I agree with it. But when they unilaterally take it on themselves to block entire sections of the Internet (e.g. all traffic originating from DHCP systems on braodband carriers), knowing that a large number of innocent users will also be hurt by the action, then I say that is too high-handed. If they want to block that category of traffic from their own servers, fine, but to blackhole it globally is a gestapo tactic -- e.g. arrest everyone in the neighborhood because someone there may have committed a crime. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Ive been listed in list.dsbl.org - how do I configure so as to get unlisted
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 01:13, James McDonald wrote: > Another thing is that they expect the mail domain to align with the > reverse dns entry which is rediculous... do the people administering > these black lists actually understand that a rdns query frequently has > absolutely nothing to do with the the email addresses... These people are operating on vigilante principles... they don't care. If they can eliminate 80% of spam by blackholing 15% of the genuine innocent mail users, they are happy. It's a war and they don't care who gets hurt - they consider it justifiable collateral damage. The scary thing is no-one voted for these guys, they weren't appointed by any government agency and they aren't accountable to anyone. These are just people who are feeding their ego and power-tripping on how they are 'saving the world.' -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: MS finally gets a little smarter
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 22:23, Bill Campbell wrote: > The people behind me on the firing line weren't so friendly as they dug the > shit out of their hair :-). "...I love the smell of cowshit in the morning." with apologies to Francis Ford Coppola -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Anyone know anything about IronPort ?
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 09:53, Net Llama! wrote: > Anyone dealt with or used their products? > http://www.ironport.com No, but reading their website descriptions, it seems to be an interesting product... a hardened stripped down "appliance" build. "Connections are encrypted between trusted partners ensuring privacy of your communications." They are using an asynchronous file system. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: YES (was Re: Did you ever find out about Portsentry?)
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 14:50, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > I managed to contact the author (now at Cisco). He is making PortSentry and > Logcheck GPL and availabe on SourceForge Good man. Portsentry (and Logcheck too for that matter) was too useful too whither away. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ADMIN: rsync access restricted
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 22:18, Kurt Wall wrote: > Trying to nail down problems with rsync between the mothership and > the mirrors. Nothing nefarious or untoward going on. > Ahh. I am just naturally suspicious of r-services (comes with the job). -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Did you ever find out about Portsentry?
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 16:15, Jack Berger wrote: > Doug had a link to it somewhere on the SxS server at one time. I know the psionic > links are dead. > I have a copy of the software if you can't find it anywhere else. > Contact me off-list via my email if you need it. This is potentially very sad. I wonder what Cisco intends to do with portsentry - bury it? or jazz it up with a fancy gui and market at a price that no home user can afford? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ADMIN: rsync access restricted
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 08:39, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > As of 08:30 this morning (Sept 3) rsync access to the SxS site has been > revoked for anyone not running an official mirror. If you were using rsync to > maintain your own local copy, contact me directly so we can work it out. > Thanks. I don't think I need to ask (or know) why. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ADMIN:Upcoming Downtime
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 20:00, Kurt Wall wrote: > Quoth Douglas J Hunley: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I am having a new data feed installed next Monday (Sept 8). We're upgrading to > > 3.0Mbps down and 500kbps up. Obviously, there will be some downtime as we > > switch the cabling out and propogate the new DNS entries around. I think > > you'll all agree that the little bit of pain will be well worth it. > > Woo hoo! Youdaman! > In the process of ditching my non-DHCP tolerant ISP (a previous email refers), I am (unfortunately) moving from 3.0/800 service to 1.5/500. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 15:53, Raymond Russell wrote: > Its due to the SoBig worm. It must be using the lists e-mail on some ones > infected machine and the bounces are coming back here. It would have to be a Windows box. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: tool for managing projects
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 12:20, Bill Campbell wrote: > > SuSE 8.2 Professional comes with mrproject. I've looked at it > very briefly so can't say how good it is. > mrproject also comes bundled in other distros such as recent versions of Redhat. From what I can see, it's a lightweight MS Project clone. The homepage is here: http://mrproject.codefactory.se/ -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Why Microsoft has to go ...
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 01:47, James McDonald wrote: > I wonder how many companies lift algorithms straight out of OSS code and > put it in their applications? > Do you mean aside from SCO? "Linux Personality Kernel"TM -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Why Microsoft has to go ...
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 12:48, Alma J Wetzker wrote: > I think the point is that the patents are all the company really has and > M$ is stealling them. I know that big money tends to play legal games > to get the things they want but this makes no sense. The license should > cost less than the legal fees. Plus, the bad publicity and already > being in legal trouble with the feds. Somebody at M$ is clearly not > thinking. Makes perfect sense from Bill's point of view. This is precisely what he has done to build his business since he was a marginal hack programmer working in a shed in New Mexico. Where do you think 90% of the ideas that now make up Windows came from? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Why Microsoft has to go ...
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 02:33, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > On 30 Aug 2003 21:32:16 -0400 > burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Nothing fishy here. The patents are intellectual property and assets of > > the corporation. As such they are the property of the investors and the > > creditors. Selling them to your wife is illegal in this instance. > > Not if the investors agree to do so. How many can there be in a company of > two employees? They would still have to get the OK from their investors - that IP is probably what their investors bought into in the first place. A company of 2 people has no other value. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Test
On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 21:41, Keith Antoine wrote: > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:44 am, burns wrote: > > Test, over > > Hell, I did not even know it had begun! Waht was I tested for? > sexually transmitted diseases. You failed and now will have to study much harder for the re-test. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Test
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The New Dukes of Hazzard
Starring Roscoe P. ('Your Loss is My Pleasure') Gaits and Deputy Darryl
and his other brother Darryl
Now if Edith was still on the list, she could have updated the themes
song appropriately. (I think I still have one of her CD's)
http://www.arie.org/doh/
--
burns
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Re: More SCO Humor
On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 00:04, Kurt Wall wrote: > Here: http://www.kurtwerks.com/humor/index.html > Excellent! But I have to wonder about the cubicle picture - what happens if someone in the middle of a row suddenly has to go to the loo *really* bad? Re: the 2 guys working on the RF MAST - UNLESS I'm mistaken, that was the mast on Tower 2 of what used to be the World Trade Center... Sad and yet fascinating. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Why Microsoft has to go ...
On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 21:12, joel wrote: > Well, not much really happened in court. Just some lost emails. > What seems fishy is: > 1. The author says you lose your patents if you go bankrupt. Individuals > can keep patents. If the corporation was in danger of going bankrupt, > why couldn't they sell the patents or assign them to officers of the > corporation as compensation, etc. Losing patents on technology you have > spent $$ on just because the company goes bankrupt doesn't seem right. Nothing fishy here. The patents are intellectual property and assets of the corporation. As such they are the property of the investors and the creditors. Selling them to your wife is illegal in this instance. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: how to increase /root space
On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 10:48, Net Llama! wrote: > > I'm really wondering how you manage to fill up /boot, when its contents are > static. I don't see why you need to increase the size of /boot in the > first place. > Is this the same network that you had the earlier possible security problems on? Boot shouldn't change much and certainly the size of boot shouldn't be changing unless there are some very strange things going on.I'd be very concerned about why boot was growing, who was causing it to grow (if it's not you) and what the additional bulk consists of. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Kudos
On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 00:45, Myles Green wrote: > ack! I hope not the same one I use? No. It was Istop.com, a small regional DSL provider (re-selling surplus Bell bandwidth) and who was supposed to be Linux-friendly. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Kudos
A couple of days ago, my ISP instituted a blackhole of (read = refused to accept) traffic from this list. This was based upon an arbitrary listing issued by a vigilante group in the Netherlands. Their rationale was that the SxS listserver uses DHCP, and many rogue spam servers also employ DHCP. What utter BS - that's like banning the use of computers because hackers/crackers have been known to use them. Give me a break! The good news is that because of Kurt and Doug's personal efforts and a bit of mail magic, I am able to still participate in the list until my new, less anal, ISP comes on line. A big public thank you, to both these guys. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Sending SCO Execs to Jail
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 22:43, Kurt Wall wrote: > I filed a complaint against SCO with the Pennsylvania Attorney General. > Here's their reply: > > http://www.kurtwerks.com/bcp_letter.html Good for you. Now if every Linux user in America, corporate and personal, were to make such a complaint to the FTC... -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: where'd gcc go??
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 20:08, Net Llama! wrote: > Ya, i noticed. I thought maybe it had something to do with the compromise > of the Gnu ftp server a while back. Perhaps... Although some folks don't need any outside help in breaking things. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP scanners on Linux.
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 20:01, Bill Campbell wrote: > It so happens that I'm typing this an an HP Visualize P-Class running SuSE > 8.2 which is standing next to another HP Visualize P550, right beside my HP > 4M Plus with duplex attachment. I think that qualifies me as a customer > (not to mention the HP printers, print servers, etc. which I've sold or > installed over the last 20 years or so :-). Gee I think I found your problem -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Changing Network parameters Col 311
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 17:16, Javier Hernandez wrote: > Hi all, > > I am running Openlinux 3.1.1 in my portable. > > I needed to change the network parameters (static IP, Netmask, gateway). > > I got a problem with the menu interface to change the network: >Preferences->System->Network->Devices > so I used "webmin" for that task: Network Interface, etc... I don't know about webmin, but AISTR from my Caldera days, we used to use either the COAS tool in the GUI, or the 'route' or 'ifconfig' commands from the CLI -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: where'd gcc go??
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 09:13, Net Llama! wrote: > Not sure if that's supposed to be a joke or not. > Probably. 5 out of 10 The site come sin good now. Probably just malformed html, open tag etc. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Test
radio check, over -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Related to root login
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 18:00, Swapana Ghosh wrote: > Hi > >One of our server(redhad 7.1) we login as > > telnet domain.com > user : admin > pass : - > > su - root > root passwd > > but today i found something has been changed i can't > able > to enter to root as su - root > > i am entering as sudo bash > then again giving the admin passwd ... > > the /etc/pam.d/su file is as follows: > > #%PAM-1.0 > auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_rootok.so > # Uncomment the following line to implicitly trust > users in the "wheel" group. > #auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_wheel.so > trust use_uid > # Uncomment the following line to require a user to be > in the "wheel" group. > #auth required /lib/security/pam_wheel.so > use_uid > auth required /lib/security/pam_stack.so > service=system-auth > accountrequired /lib/security/pam_stack.so > service=system-auth > password required /lib/security/pam_stack.so > service=system-auth > sessionrequired /lib/security/pam_stack.so > service=system-auth > sessionoptional /lib/security/pam_xauth.so > ~ This looks normal. But I would be very(!) suspicious of any system where logins, particularly root, have mysteriously changed - especially given the way you are telnetting in the clear. I recommend you unplug your box from the network and go through the logs with great care, looking for any hint of something out of place. A good cracker will try to cover his tracks, so the indicators may be very subtle. I don't suppose you were running Tripwire? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 11:42, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote: > And they have > also bought SCO licensing that it didn't really look like they need. > When was that and for what? -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: upgrading Redhat
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 22:53, Net Llama! wrote: > Got a question for anyone who's upgraded Redhat. I've got a slew of > RH-7.3-XFS boxen. I'm thinking of upgading them to RH9-XFS, however i'm > not clear on whether I can jump straight to RH9, or do I have to first > upgrade to RH8, and then RH9? Also, has anyone used the (un)official XFS > installer CD to do the upgrade? Lonni, I'd do myself a favour, if I were you, and just go with a straight clean scratch install of RH9 (don't mess with RH8 as I don't consider it all that stable). -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 22:59, Collins Richey wrote: > > Any company large enough to consider IBM Z series mainframes is going to > think twice about the headaches of running a traditional server farm of > unix or linux boxes. The simplicities of scaling up processing power > as needed and the ability to run thousands of server images on a Z > series with not much more effort than a handful is going to eat Sun's > lunch in its traditional, profitable mid-high-end niche That's not the way we're seeing it unfold, although it makes some sense and I'm sure IBM would love it. In terms of upfront roll-out costs mainframes make sense, especially where business are looking for high uptimes (e.g. five 9's). However, there are still a huge number of dedicated "Sun shops" out there, especially amongst those corporations that are not willing to out-source lock, stock and barrel to IBM. Mainframes are nice, but like HP inkjet cartridges, IBM makes its money on professional services, outsourcing and support... and it is *muy* expensive and it definitely limits your non-IBM up-stream options. But like the man says, it's all about choice and, until MS gets its way, there will continue to be choices in approach to enterprise architecture and resourcing... and that's a good thing. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 20:45, burns wrote: Sorry to follow my own post, but forgot to include these additional links - if you think that Sun is playing footsie with MS (or SCO), check these out: http://www.sun.com/executives/perspectives/re-town.html http://wwws.sun.com/software/cover/2002-0918/index.html -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 19:27, Net Llama! wrote: > Sun is between a rock and a hard place right now, as they despise M$, yet > fear Linux. They're not sure whether they want to fight a two fronted war > at the moment, so they're riding the fence. I work a lot with Sun (but these opinions are mine). They have sat on the fence for years... even when they released Star Office for Linux, they still refused to commit in broader terms to supporting the Linux environment. Behind the scenes Sun developers were contributing to Linux with the tacit approval of Sun managers. Sun views their niche to be a very large share of the mid-high end Enterprise market. This is not an area where Linux has been a strong threat. Sun would just as soon ignore Linux, or at best only dabble in it for amusement. However, there has been enough requests from clients that they can no longer ignore Linux and they are starting to come around. Sun is now offering Linux systems. Sun is also allying with Linux and incorporating Linux elements in its forthcoming Sun business/corporate desktop - the one that Sun hopes will squeeze market share from Microsoft W2k and XP. From sun.com: " Project Mad Hatter's interface is designed to be familiar to business desktop application users, which helps reduce training costs. The desktop also includes some features unique to Linux such as the Workspace Switcher in the lower right-hand corner that enables users to set up four different work spaces." (Does this look familiar? http://www.sun.com/2003-0805/feature/images/defaultevolution_scrnshot_081803.jpg) OTOH, Sun absolutely despises Microsoft... and that extends right up to their CEO, Scott McNealy. I suspect Sun sees Linux as an emerging low-cost complementary alternative that they need to get a piece of. They see Microsoft, however, as a direct predatory threat to Sun's existence. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Email from 'Microsoft'
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 19:57, Net Llama! wrote: > "work with linux"?? What exactly does that mean, seeing as how linux isn't > a company, or a person that can be "worked with". I think the context was to work with 'Linux software' as opposed to Microcrap products. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO fizzles
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 16:02, Alma J Wetzker wrote: > My guess is that they are not as involved as we would like to believe. > Much as SCO's blathering is to the benefit of M$, I don't think they are > orchestrating it. Sun is also a backer of SCO with _LOTS_ to lose if > linux catches on. Remember that Caldera was birthed by a lawsuit with > M$ over DR-DOS not working with Windoze. (They won for big bucks.) > I just can't see where logic would lead you to believe that Sun is more likely than MS to be in cahoots with SCO. The available indications, albeit circumstantial, point in exactly the opposite direction. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux server packet loss - stopped occassionally
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 14:56, Shawn Tayler wrote: > On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Swapana Ghosh > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> professed: > > > ___ > > > > eth0: 10 Mbit, half duplex, no link > > product info: vendor 00:00:00, model 0 rev 0 > > basic mode: 10 Mbit, half duplex > > basic status: no link > > capabilities: > > advertising: > > > > The no link is interesting. Could it be a flakey NIC, cable, or Router > port? I had this happen a couple of years ago with a Realtek 8139C NIC. I swapped out the card and it was fine. Other than that, I have had much better service from these cards than others apparently have. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WeLoveTheSCOInformationMinister
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 13:14, Collins Richey wrote: > On 24 Aug 2003 10:43:57 -0400 > burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Had a good hoot at the site yesterday, but today none of the images > > are downloading. Trying to force them shows that they are not being > > served... interesting. > > Can we hope that Darl has disappeared so quickly and completely? The > aliens got him? More likely the sub-human SCO lawyers found the webmaster. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
