Re: laptop screen blanking wont stop!
more: i just went to the t-pad 240 sites on ken harker's site (hey, i really do *love* this thing, and it's fun to read of other people's experiences. besides, i write for a living and though i have it running a really tuned suse 7.2 that i have no plans to upgrade -- particularly in that i have the lucent winmodem working -- textmaker is really fast even on its dinky celeron 366 and 192 megs of memory), and i found something that might be pertinent. on http://truffula.net/~forrest/tp240.shtml i found this: APM: apm works great on this laptop. i've left the thinkpad bios in it's default settings, and i just compiled my kernel with the following settings. ignore user suspend = no enable pm at boot time = yes make cpu idle calls when idle = yes enable console blanking = no < http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: laptop screen blanking wont stop!
On Monday 17 November 2003 08:11 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: | yes. in fact, the console does blank. but it comes back when you | press enter . . . | looks like this is X related. off for more testing i'm not so sure, if the console, too, is blanking. how soon does this happen? the console is supposed to blank in linux after a specified period of time; additionally, recent x does something funky in this regard -- sometimes on my desktop machine the screensaver is x, but sometimes it blanks and the monitor turns on the light that's on when the monitor is on but the computer isn't, so the frigging energy star compliance nonsense -- how much juice would a laptop use? -- seems too clever by half, and a little unpredictable as well. my questions, then: how long after boot does the console blank? are you certain that there is *nothing* in the bios that might bring this about? notebook bioses are notoriously flaky, and among them thinkpad bioses are especially so. and i say this as someone in love with and at this moment writing on a thinkpad (a 240, which i think is the coolest computer ever built), and only wish that ibm would learn that rechargeable batteries are supposed to have a longer service life than nonrechargeable ones would. you might poke around, too, to see if there's a bios upgrade you need. often, these are released between the time a t-pad ships and the time anybody actually has one. the upgrade is simple but must be done *precisely,* else dead machine. a bootable dos floppy is often needed (though nowadays it could be that ibm makes the disk image bootable, which would make sense). and of course ken harker's site, http://www.linux-laptop.net/, is well worth checking out to see if this is a known problem (and to d/l the right XF86Config, if that is where the trouble is. the thinkpad stuff is here: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ibm.html. i'd also check to see if there's framebuffer stuff going on. on many systems, you may use the framebuffer, or you may use x, but you get into a world of hurt if you try to use both. -- dep ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: html and web application
On Monday 17 November 2003 06:59 pm, Michael Hipp wrote: | > http://www.nvu.com/ | | From the web site: | | "Finally! A complete Web Authoring System for Linux Desktop users | to rival programs like FrontPage and Dreamweaver." | | If it really lives up to that it will truly be a winner. (Well, | okay, not the FrontPage part, yuck, but Dreamweaver is | respectable.) there *is* one nontrivial problem -- the downlad page doesn't yet have anything to download. it's apparently based on the mozilla website creation tools, which are nonawful. -- dep ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: laptop screen blanking wont stop!
quoth Douglas J Hunley: | I can change back to initdefault:3 for debugging. good. what happens if you do? do you get a usable console? | bad XF86Config? define bad... it is, of course, a subjective thing, and we mustn't be judgmental, but generally speaking "bad" and "unusable" would coincide in this case. something else -- is this on battery or ac power? -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
html and web application
a couple of weeks ago, when the textmaker sale was coming up, there was some discussion here of a wysiwig program to make html editing easier. while poking around today, i found this, which looks promising, and which appears to be free: http://www.nvu.com/ -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: laptop screen blanking wont stop!
quoth Aaron Grewell: | Check your screensaver settings. In KDE & Gnome there appear to be | XScreensaver configurations that do power-related things. I'm not | sure how to change screensaver settings in other WM's though. | | On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:47, Douglas J Hunley wrote: | > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | > Hash: SHA1 | > | > I've got a thinkpad without APM/ACPI installed. I've set 'setterm | > -blank 0' in rc.local, I've set 'xset s off' in .xnitrc, I've | > turned off DPMS in XF86Config, but the fscking thing still blanks | > itself! What's worse is that video doesn't come back once this | > happens! | > Anyone know what I'm missing? can you switch to a different virtual console (alt-ctrl-f2, for instance)? i've seen this with a bad XF86Config -- if you're booting into rl5 (after "shame on you!") this could be a problem. there are also issues of framebuffer support or lack thereof and so on. but it all comes down to whether you can get ro a plain old login prompt. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rms: 'i'm clueless, dammit!'
quoth Collins Richey: | On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:04:23 -0500 dep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > quoth James McDonald: | > | But why is RMS so dogged about the distinction? | > | > he has that far-away look of the true believer, the staunch | > idealogue who is untroubled by minor details such as reality. | | Ever the diplomt; I would have said because he is an a##hole. you are the first person ever to accuse me of being a diplomat! -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: way
quoth Collins Richey: | I'm too much of an email/etc youngster to understand shortcuts like | | :-) and ;-) | | My google searches have produced no results. | | Where are these defined? do a search on "emoticons". -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rms: 'i'm clueless, dammit!'
quoth James McDonald: | But why is RMS so dogged about the distinction? he has that far-away look of the true believer, the staunch idealogue who is untroubled by minor details such as reality. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
rms: "i'm clueless, dammit!"
http://www.forbes.com/2003/11/13/cz_dl_1113sco.html?partner=yahoo&referrer= Stallman says the Boston-based Free Software Foundation, which he founded in 1985, has nothing to do with SCO's lawsuit. "SCO is suing IBM for violating a contract. We don't even know what the contract said. In terms of the resolution of that lawsuit, the Free Software Foundation is entirely uninvolved," he says. Stallman's GNU/Linux operating system is not the target of SCO's suit. Linux, the program SCO is targeting, is not an operating system, but only the kernel of the GNU/Linux operating system, which could run using a different kernel. "I am concerned about long-term entrenched confusions such as referring to a version of our GNU OS as 'Linux' and thinking that our work on free software was motivated by the ideas associated with 'open source.' These confusions lead users away from the basic issue: their freedom. By comparison, the events involving SCO are transitory and almost trivial," Stallman says. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FW: [EmperorLinux-os-RedHat] do not use : GLIBC update packages ( from Red Hat Network)
quoth Kurt Wall: | Consuming 2.3K bytes, Net Llama! blathered: | > I can vouch for this. My RH9 box is trashed as a result. | | [badly borken glibc] | | Whoops! leave it to redhat. what was it last time? gcc-2.7.6 or something? -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ReiserFS Problem
quoth Condon Thomas A KPWA: | I've been running SuSE 8.0 on my home system (primary | desktop/mail-reader/web surfer) for some time. My boot and / disk is | a 20GB EIDE disk (master on 1st IDE). I decided to upgrade to SuSE | 9.0 while adding an additional NIC and a 250GB EIDE drive. So I | carefully saved some data and shut down normally. I disconnected the | old boot disk to insure nothing could happen to it. I had troubles | booting off the new disk, so I re-connected the old disk to boot from | it. i had something similar when i went from 7.2 to 8.2 -- removed the old drive and when the install went fubar, old drive wouldn't work anymore. really weird. | No luck. The reiserfs is showing problems. The error message asks | for the root password to allow me to repair it and says it is mounted | read only, so it shows how to mount it r/w so I can run reiserfsck | and fix it. I try that. Can't run portions of the fix/test if it is | mounted read/write. So I tried it in read only mode. It can't run | other portions of the test/fix if it is read only. Neither way can | complete the fix of the disk so it will boot or is even usable. i think you're making a mistake in reading the instructiuons here. give the root password and then run reiserfsck /dev/hdX, where X is the / partition. *then* you can mount r/w. the same confusion can result from the ambigious instructions when plain old e2fsck is called for. i think that if you try that, you may achieve success. | At work now, so I can't test this, but I suspect that I should have | popped in my Knoppix CD and gotten it up and running and used it to | fix the hard drive. Does that sound feasible? yup -- but first, try running reiserfsck without mounting the drive r/w. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
a great site for following sco v. ibm
http://www.groklaw.net a paralegal has entered all the good stuff. this is useful for other cases, too. neat site. and no, i have no connection whatsoever with it. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only
quoth Leon A. Goldstein: | I ordered a copy this morning. I will only use Textmaker | occasionally to format HTML documents. After playing a bit with the | trial download, I do find Textmaker a lot simpler for the non-expert | to format a HTML document than OO or Staroffice. that's the one thing for which i found textmaker fairly unsuitable -- it behaves like koffice and some others in putting in *way* too much formatting, often more than doubling the size of the document. (actually, kword did a lot to fix this by offering a stripped html formatting option.) there's not a really good linux wysiwig html editor that i've found. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Love on board
quoth Ken Moffat: | Forgive my ignorance, but isn't this former ceo the one who lead | Caldera to it's present state of affairs? as a matter of fact, no. he was the guy who thought up unitedlinux. about all you can really pin on him is the silliness that followed edesktop 2.4, in which the best linux distribution ever was cast into a maelstrom of confusion, contradictory policies, and foolishness. but he is not a bad guy -- certainly not in the sense that the current nixon administration retreads who are stripping linux for parts are bad guys. which is to say, they will go to hell and he won't. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Merging pdf files
quoth Collins: | Methinks it was dep who recently inquired about tools to merge | multiple PDF files. There is now an offering on freshmeat. | | http://freshmeat.net/projects/mbtpdfasm/?branch_id=45151&release_id=1 |41607&topic_id=861 | | Enjoy thanks. actually, at that time i was concerned with taking a few pages from a much larger pdf file and saving 'em as a pdf. but this will allow assembling those saved pages into one bigun, which will be very useful to me in due course. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only
quoth M.W. Chang: | better than open office? far different (though in my estimation oodles better, also). textmaker is a word processor/desktop publisher, period. it is much, much smaller and much, much faster than openoffice. on a machine here where openoffice takes more than a minute to open and ready to take input, textmaker takes six seconds. textmaker also makes better use of fonts and offers full antialiasing. the differences are on a par with the differences between opera and mozilla. (or, to be more accurate, opera 18 months ago and mozilla 18 months ago.) i've used dozens of word processors in the last 20 years -- no, scores of word processors. textmaker is my favorite of the lot. i am not sure it is possible to overpraise it -- it's just great. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only
quoth M.W. Chang: | what does textmaker do? it is an *excellent* word processor. reads and writes msft word files of many flavors -- best filters i've ever seen. and is both very powerful and very fast. i've so far used it for three book proposals (complicated documents of about 25,000 words each) and numerous magazine pieces, and it hasn't hiccuped even once. and it works very well on a low-resources machine; it's very fast on my celeron 366 notebook with 192 megs of memory. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
textmaker for very little money, tuesday only
i use textmaker -- couldn't live without it -- and it is very, very good. i got this note from 'em tonight and thought i'd pass it along in case anyone had been interested but didn't want to pay $50 for the product (though if it were $200 it would be worth it, imho). -- Forwarded Message -- -- It's Carnival Time in Nürnberg, Germany. -- Exactly on November 11 at 11:11 am German time, Carnival Time starts in SoftMaker's hometown of Nürnberg - world-famous in Germany. Rio de Janeiro, move over! Mardi Gras? Bah! We have carnival speeches, polonaise, weird dances and way too much beer. Other results of the festivities become apparent nine months later. -- Harebrained Pricing in Nürnberg, Germany. -- It is customary to do harebrained things on the day Carnival starts (see above). Following this rite, we will be offering 1,111 TextMaker packages for EUR 11.11 or US$11.11 each - your choice of TextMaker for Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, Pocket PCs, or Handheld PCs. This offer is valid exactly one day, which is about as long as we need to come to our senses again. -- However: Carnival hasn't yet begun in Nürnberg, Germany. -- The harebrained price of 11.11 Euros is valid from Tuesday, 11:11 a.m. German time. Here is the official countdown: http://www.softmaker.com -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
a thought
something just occurred to me in re. sco and suse and all. seems to me there's one big honking breach of contract lawsuit available to, say, suse and turbo and conectiva against sco. i mean a *whopping* big breach of contract suit available to them. after all, when your partner in an enterprise decides to withdraw what you sell, it does tend to make things a little more difficult. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Star Office 7
quoth Kurt Wall: | > 43 passed by here a few days ago... | | It does go whizzing by lately... it gets worse. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Star Office 7
quoth Chong Yu Meng: | That's amazing ! I thought most of the people on this list were in | their 30's, because you guys sound so young ! I'm probably the | youngest here, I expect (I'm 34). But I am also very aware of time | being in short supply , but money is also one of my main worries! money comes and goes. time just goes. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Star Office 7
quoth Joel Hammer: | I have come to the conclusion that my time is worth something. I am | now 57, and have only about 5 to 10 years before I get too old to | bother much with computers. So, saving time is becoming more | important than politics. I am also of the opinion, at least for now, | that the open source movement just will not be able to deliver the | ease of use of commerical software. What volunteer programmer is | going to knock himself out for hours so some lazy non-paying user can | have a trouble free software experience? Too often, open source means | take it or leave it, blemishes included. I have gotten tired of that. | I tip generously at restaurants for good service, so I can't see why | I shouldn't pay someone who writes software which saves my time. And, | certainly, $30 bucks for a competent suite like Star Office is a | bargain. I feel good about supporting both Sun and Lindows, too. well, except for the part about being 57, which i guess i hope oneday to be able to say, though i'd just as soon the clock run backwards for 30 years or so, i agree with you. that's why i am so entirely comfortable with textmaker, which is not free, not open source, but is blisteringly fast and very, very stable and powerful. i've done three book proposals with it so far and a load of magazine pieces. i've been *really* unimpressed with openoffice, to the extent of toying with trying to reload staroffice 5.2 -- i use it when i use it for its really good graphics suite, which is all but absent from openoffice. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Novell buys SuSE!
quoth Leon A. Goldstein: | Some of us remember what happened to DR DOS and Word Perfect after | Novell bought them. It is not auspicious IMHO. let's hope that there exists an ability to learn. as i understand it, ibm has just invested $50 million in novell, which certainly tells us something. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [GWAVA:1pn8m9vh] Subject filter message notification
what the hell is this crap? quoth GWAVA: | This is an automated Notification e-mail message from GWAVA. | | The message you sent, from the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | to [No To Addresses] | | Concerning: Re: Lightweight Desktop Help. | | Was not delivered because it contained content not accepted by the | University of Natal. Your message was blocked because it triggered | the | | WeightBlock | | Please reply to this message if it is a valid email message. | | Please find our disclaimer at http://www.disclaimer.nu.ac.za | | <<<>>> | ___ | Linux-users mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> | http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: anybody know the guts of cups drivers? -- solved, sorta
well, i did surgery on the foomatic ljet3.ppd.gz driver, to no avail. so, as a kind of experiment, i switched to the gimp print ljet3 driver. interestingly, the thing prints as i would like -- the right place on the page -- though of course considerably slower. anyway, i think this will work, though i'd love to figure out how to fix the default driver as well. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
anybody know the guts of cups drivers?
greets. i'm hoping somebody here knows a little bit about the internals of cups drivers. i'm using cups with my laserjet III and printing is too high and too far to the left. my sense is that it is interiting some a4 paper size specs even though it knows to print on US letter. what i don't know is what values to change in the driver itself -- and by that i mean the gzipped thing itself. any ideas? -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: test message
quoth Kurt Wall: | Quoth Keith Morse: | > Please ignore. | | Pardon me? Did you say something? No? I didn't think so. hey. cut him a break. he's probably married. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: strange cd problem
quoth Mike Reinehr: | Following up on what Net Llama & Roger have said, what type of CD is | it, CD-R or CD-R/W? Have you noticed your CD drive laboring to read | the CD, i.e., seeming to thrash and then failing? I have a CD reader | that is only about a year or so old, which can not read CD-R/W's, no | matter how slowing burned. It would labor for what seemed an eternity | and eventually just give up. It had no problem with CD-R's, however. | I replaced the drive with another, newer one of a different make and | the problem went away. it was a plain old cd-r; it was recorded at 24x (which itself is something that i worry about -- when i burn 'em i do it at 1x, because i think that burning cds is not the place to push it *at all*). anyway, problem of getting data to hard drive is solved -- i had my friend .tgz the whole 150 megs of data and mail the result to me, which taught us that we have very forgiving mail servers . . . and now i dive into it, hoping that i have paid today's dues. thanks to everyone for your help. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: strange cd problem
quoth Mike Reinehr: | The universe doesn't hate you -- it just doesn't care! ;-) that's always been pretty much my view -- but today there's abundant evidence that it is actually going out of its way to dig little potholes specifically for me. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: strange cd problem
quoth Roger Oberholtzer: | Is your cd reader happy with other CDs burned by the burner? What | speed was it burned at? Not-so-very-old CD readers can have trouble | reading CDs burned 'fast' on some other burner. problem is, this is the only cd i have that was burned on that machine, which was a mac. i'm getting a little farther, oddly, with a pcmcia cd reader on the thinkpad running suse 7.2. still not entirely there, and much that is crucial is not making it over, but getting farther. i never did anything to anger the universe. i do not know why the universe seems to set on ruining me. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: strange cd problem
quoth Net Llama!: | A bad CD, or failing HW. Something is failing when attempting to | read or write the data. How are you copying the data? If not with | the command line, then i'd suggest trying that, and checking dmesg or | messages for useful errors. it says, at the prompt, "input/output error." the drive is recognized at boot, no problem, mounts uneventfully, and, as i said, the data seem entirely viewable. cd was burned iso9660 with joliet extensions, which module i have and which seems to work properly -- i do get the full long filenames, which is what joliet does. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
strange cd problem
greets, folks! this one is kind of weird. i have a cd, burned by a friend, containing data in mbox format that i really need to get to. i can open the cd in, say, midnight commander, and can view the files, no problem. but if i try to copy those files to the hard drive, i get an "input/output" problem error. any idea what in the world this might be about? tia. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: more .pdf -- why not?
quoth James Conner: | I caught this off a thread on the kde-linux mailing list, I don't | know if it will help or not, just thought I'd pass it along. thanks. what i was looking for was, maybe, something like we used to have in the describe word processor. it would allow you to pick any of several varieties of files -- .pdf was not, to my recollection, among them -- and use them as "stationery." this meant that in place of the white background there would be, both onscreen and in the printout, the document as a background. the background document wasn't altered or screened in any way; black would still be black. then one entered text as if the "stationery" were not there at all. with such an arrangement, one could move the cursor to the appropriate places, enter text, and then, when printing, get both the entered text and the background -- in my hypothetical, the .pdf file. from that standpoint, doing .pdf forms would be fairly straightforward. but, alas, i have found no way to make it happen. which doesn't at the moment matter -- i filled out the forms on a typewriter, not being able to find any ink here late at night for my fountain pen. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: more .pdf -- why not?
quoth Michael Hipp: | Any chance there's a link for that? You don't seem to be on the list | of authors for NR and I don't know if I could buy a printed copy | anywhere within 30km of here. it's not on the nro site, though subscribers to the digital version can, of course, get it. i'm contractually forbidden from sending it out or posting it. whether it will be among the magazine pieces that are brought over to nro is not known to me. i wish it were, but the decision is not mine and i am in no position to influence that decision (which might help explain why it is a successful site). -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
more .pdf -- why not?
first, in answer to my own question having to do with cutting a few pages out od a pdf file and saving them as a separate pdf file, it finally got done though, sadly, by a friend who was running a windows app which converted the postscript file i got from printing those pages to a file. (the winapp did, though, make it into a 1.6-meg pdf, which is a little excessive.) now i'm seeking to do something else. the state of connecticut offers all its court forms as .pdfs. which may be printed out and filled out by hand or -- ugh -- typewriter. i do not need to preserve these as .pdfs, but i would like to import them into something such that i can fill them out on the computer prior to printing and then, of course, save them. this would, ideally, allow them to simply be imported into a word processor or something like it. i know of no linux application which allows this, however. any ideas? (for those who might be interested as to why i need to do all this, i draw your attention to the october 27 issue of "national review," page 44, an essay by me.) -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: yet another .pdf question
quoth Net Llama!: | You could always print the pages to postscript, and then open it with | ghostview. that i have done. i've even used ps2pdf to make the resulting file into a .pdf. but the thing has big black bands across every page when opened with acrobat. the whole purpose is to make it portable, and .ps isn't as portable as .pdf is. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
yet another .pdf question
i have a very long pdf file, several pages of which i would like to be able to save to a separate pdf file. i can find no way of doing this without buying very expensive software. does anyone know of a way to do this? acrobat reader has no provision for it that i can find, and for some reason the linux pdf tools shipped with suse 8.2 are capable of opening no pdf file, from any source, that i can find. thanks. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
linux telephone apps
greets, folks . . . having endured a *way* too big phone bill this month, most of it long-distance stuff with other linux users and some of it long-distance with windows users who have high-speed connections, i'm looking for a better approach. six or seven years ago i played with some windows and OS/2 apps which let people do telephone over the internet. i'm trying to get a sense of the current state of that technology, with an eye toward setting it up here on the linux box. anybody here have any experience with it? -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
quoth Rick Sivernell: | DEP your right that if no print she will not be totally happy. | | Good news here - last weekend we had our 1st Sat computer sale. I | bought 2 scsi HP6100c scanners for $5.00 total. I have one on wife's | machine and suse setit up and scanned. wait a minute here. i thought the issue was getting stuff inside the computer to come out and appear on paper -- but what you've done is get stuff to jump off the paper and go inside the computer. which is kind of like a radio station where they can only listen to the radio, not broadcast . . . -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
quoth Rick Sivernell: | I have converted my wife machine to linux, as I said about 10 days. | Her only complaint is no printing. this idea of a "wife machine" is intriguing -- i may try it next time out. however, if she has no functioning parallel port, what's the point? -- dep in some places, "lawyer" and "liar" are homonyms; in all places, "lawyer" and "liar" are synonyms. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Laptop suggestions
quoth Chong Yu Meng: | And, yes, IBM batteries suck ! After 1 year, the battery in my | previous Thinkpad (an X240, IIRC) died, and I had to plug my laptop | into a wall socket everytime I needed to boot-up. where is your previous laptop and what, beyond my good wishes, would it take to get you to send it to me? -- dep in some places, "lawyer" and "liar" are homonyms; in all places, "lawyer" and "liar" are synonyms. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Laptop suggestions
quoth Joel Hammer: | So, my question, any laptop suggestions that would play well with | linux? my top three choices: 1. thinkpad 2. thinkpad 3. used thinkpad i'm running suse on an old tp-240 and it is the niftiest three-pound machine on the planet (except for the prototype tp-240s with the crusoe chip, which are in a closet some place over in armonk and the only thing that has ever driven me to ponder burglary). thinkpads are simply tremendous. there is one caveat: ibm has not really figured out batteries yet, so you want to find a good third-party replacement battery supplier. i have two long-life third-party batteries for the 240, and i easily get six hours from each, even with disk-intensive work. -- dep in some places, "lawyer" and "liar" are homonyms; in all places, "lawyer" and "liar" are synonyms. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [linux-elitists] Linux and main
quoth Matthew Carpenter: | From what I know, DEP's been working quite heavily on a couple books. is so. when i can afford to support linux and main with time and treasure once again, i shall pick it back up; with some luck, it will be before long. -- dep Whatever law is after, it is not the whole story. -- Clifford Geertz ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: from an sco press release today
quoth burns: | Ballocks i pretty much agree with you, but what i thought was significant was a company, in court, saying that the gpl won't hold up. this is what we've been waiting for and to some extent feared (court is always a crap shoot, usually with a bunch of highly paid guys shooting nothing but) for some time. it cranks up the stakes considerably -- a *whole lot* is going to be riding on this particular roll of the dice. that having been said, i have every confidence in the ability of david boies to do for sco what he did for algore. -- dep Whatever law is after, it is not the whole story. -- Clifford Geertz ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
from an sco press release today
SCO Says IBM's Amended Complaint, Based on GPL, is Built on a Shaky Foundation LINDON, Utah-September 29, 2003-The SCO Group, Inc. (NASDAQ: SCOX) today made the following announcement: On Friday, September 26, IBM filed an amendment to its legal complaint against The SCO Group. In this amended complaint IBM asserts that SCO has violated the GNU General Public License (GPL), and based on this violation has then violated certain IBM copyrights. IBM, not SCO, has brought the GPL into the legal controversy between the two companies. SCO believes that the GPL -- created by the Free Software Foundation to supplant current U.S. copyright laws -- is a shaky foundation on which to build a legal case. By contrast, SCO continues to base its legal claims on well-settled United States contract laws and United States copyright laws. The GPL has never faced a full legal test, and SCO believes that it will not stand up in court. We are confident that SCO will win the legal battle that IBM has now started over the GPL. By so strongly defending the controversial GPL, IBM is also defending a questionable licensing scheme through which it can avoid providing software indemnification for its customers. We continue to urge IBM to provide legal indemnification for its Linux customers. -- dep Whatever law is after, it is not the whole story. -- Clifford Geertz ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SUSE vs Knoppix
quoth Squabsy: | I am currently using SuSE 8.2 personal and apart from the now well | documented problem I am havving recording Wavs I am getting on | reasonably ok with it. | I have read a lot of favourable press recently about knoppix and | wondered if anyone would care to comment on the realative | advantages/disadvantages of Suse Vs Knoppix knoppix is great as a bootable cd distribution, which is how many people use it. if you're running a distribution you like and you're running it for production purposes as opposed to fooling around, why consider switching? still, if you d/l and burn the knoppix cd, you can boot it and take a look and see what you think -- that way, you can have both, as well as a dandy way of demonstrating linux to others without having to install it on their machines. and if it turns out that you prefer it to suse, you can always install it after you've driven it around the block, kicked the tires, seen how many miles it gets per gallon, checked its nhtsa front- and side-impact crash test results, and seen if it's ever been in a wreck. -- dep Whatever law is after, it is not the whole story. -- Clifford Geertz ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cablemodem and wireless network
quoth Harry Giles: | 3. Is Netgear and D-Link products Linux friendly? i've had success with d-link stuff. no problem at all, actually. -- dep Whatever law is after, it is not the whole story. -- Clifford Geertz ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://mail.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: it just gets weirder
quoth Alan Jackson: | SCO's stock plummeted today. Most investors figured it out too, even | after SCO had a press release putting a sickeningly positive spin | on it. Sickening like you feel after a chilidog and the roller | coaster. mmm . . . chilidog. -- dep Whatever law is after, it is not the whole story. -- Clifford Geertz ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: it just gets weirder
quoth Shawn L Johnston: | On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 17:20, dep wrote: | > http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801, | >85288,00.html?nas=PM-85288 | > | > SEPTEMBER 24, 2003 ( COMPUTERWORLD ) - In a bold move aimed at | > reassuring its enterprise users that Linux is the right choice for | > their businesses, Hewlett-Packard Co. today is announcing that it | > will indemnify its Linux customers against any future legal action | > from The SCO Group Inc. . . . | | I'd think this is good. They're not admitting that SCO is correct, | nor are they apperently paying SCO for licenses. yeah, but it goes on: "HP will offer full legal indemnification to customers buying Linux on HP hardware with a standard support package after they sign an addendum to their sales contract, he said. No modifications to the source code can be made under the contract, but desired changes can be discussed with HP on a case-by-case basis." -- dep Whatever law is after, it is not the whole story. -- Clifford Geertz ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
it just gets weirder
http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,85288,00.html?nas=PM-85288 SEPTEMBER 24, 2003 ( COMPUTERWORLD ) - In a bold move aimed at reassuring its enterprise users that Linux is the right choice for their businesses, Hewlett-Packard Co. today is announcing that it will indemnify its Linux customers against any future legal action from The SCO Group Inc. . . . -- dep Whatever law is after, it is not the whole story. -- Clifford Geertz ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: email attack
quoth Bill Campbell: | Hmmm. I thought I heard an Earthlink advertisement on the goddam | noisy box just recently that was touting their ability to eliminate | spam and ``viruses'' from their customer's e-mail. what were they gonna say? that their founder is in the slammer for being a swindler? -- dep Whatever law is after, it is not the whole story. -- Clifford Geertz ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: email attack
quoth Chris Kassopulo: | Greetings, | | For the last two days I've gotten 100's of emails containing exe | files. Bogus microsoft updates and patches. Each piece is around | 150k which makes for a long download on dialup. Are there any | filters that can delete emails at the server that have an exe | attached. | | I can put up with a little spam, but this is out of control. New Category 3 Worm/Virus: Swen.A (Yes, that's 'news' backwards) http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
for a touch of perspective: http://www.suntimes.com/output/roeser/cst-edt-roes20.html -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
quoth Terry Bassett: | If he is not right, he will then infer that you are a half-wit, | question your man-hood and then top it off with some bizarre | accuasation of nerdiness. in the immortal words of murray gell-mann, if i have seen farther than others it is because i'm surrounded by midgets. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
quoth Philip J. Koenig: | [END OF CITATIONS] ah. one a.p. story citing one congressman and two "some guy said" quotes. | Open mouth, insert foot. your choice. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
quoth Terry Bassett: | Ah, sir your rapier wit pierces me mightily. keep trying and you'll be able to do this, too. you're already halfway there. | But have you not heard | Ashcroft speeches to church groups, professing to stop abortions on | religious grounds, or perhaps that sounds reseaonable to you. no, i haven't. i don't attend his church. perhaps you can point me to a transcript of one of those speeches. | If the | Government can rule over a womans belly then there really is no limit | to their power. that is specious on its face. of course the government can rule over such things. the issue is the circumstance under which one is allowed to kill somebody else. the issue is not a woman's control over her own body -- her failure to do that is what created what she now perceives to be a problem. which isn't to say that that has anything to do with this list. | It is only a tiny step to watch your bedroom or your | living room or your outdoor activities. that rather depends, don't you suppose? if my outdoor activities include shooting random passers by, one would hope the government would get involved. if i spend time in my bedroom building bombs, the government has an interest in that, too. |All of which can be done under the current Patriot Act. absolutely not so. | Ascroft's church speech was on C-span as I recall. i have no reason to supoose your recollection is better than your reasoning. |The neo-America is the one I live in today. It was not | born because of 9/11 but of events a few days later, when the | decisions were made to create the new entity of Homeland security. | It is the extremely powerful new form of counter-terrorism formed to | be used here in America, in the name of National Security. The CIA | now has its own private Army. The last time they had a private army, | they ended up to their necks in the Golden Triangle drug trade and | even weather modification experiments in Southeast Asia. Things have | already ran out of control is what I am saying. Currently further | additions to the Patriot Act are in the offing and will only make the | neo-America harder to remove from power. jeeezus! what a steaming heap of paranoid raving! there is not a shred of evidence anywhere to support any of the above. | And, yes I wrote a mis-formed sentence, if you read it as though | I was here at the start of the Republic. My relatives were though, | maybe I just feel a certain ownership towards the America of my | ancestors and would like to pass on the essence of that America to my | children. well, i'll see you and raise you fifty as d.a.r. fodder, which is beside the point. nobody fought and died for this country to make it possible for ill-informed pantywaists to whine and lie about their country. but this thread was about microsoft corporation. you might want to take the other part of the discussion to alt.paranoia.when.geeks.think.they.are.cool. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
quoth Kurt Wall: | How long before they come for *you*, Collins? they did, and for you, too. on september 11, 2001. only he and you weren't there. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
quoth Terry Bassett: | It is more than chilling to watch Ascroft's sneering attitude as | he gives his recent speeches. I don't want religious fanatics having | so much power. I am of a mind that I should turn over America to my | children as I found it, not this neo-America I live in now. The | future isn't what is used to be. perhaps you could be of some help here, providing some examples of ashcroft's religious fanaticism -- i keep hearing about it and keep watching for it, but he somehow seems to manifest it only when i'm not watching. as to your having found america -- i do not know your age but am given to understand that it was found long before the birth of anyone presently alive. and again, it would be great if you could provide some examples of the "neo-America" to which you refer. and, post-clinton, is isn't what is used to be. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
quoth Philip J. Koenig: | On 18 Sep 2003 at 10:56, Collins Richey boldly uttered: | > Homeland Security is scarcely the same as the Nazi SS. Where and | > when, pray tell, have they descended upon any innocent group of | > citizens, knocking heads and breaking up property? | | The US government has already been detaining people simply because | they are of "middle eastern descent". There was quite an uproar in | Southern California about this, and not by the people who are in | danger (because they're afraid of the consequences) but from other | citizens who are appalled by the police-state tactics. | | There have actually been a number of politicians who have suggested | we need to re-institute internment camps, just like we had in WWII. | | According to most historians, that was a pretty dark day in the US's | history, and here we have "community leaders" merrilly suggesting we | do it again. seems as if your allegations above are a little shy of specifics. which politicians have been suggesting the camps? where are the citations thereof? who are the most historians of whom you speak, and where do historians register their view so that we can know that all historians have been heard? i'm not at all certain that anything except the reputation of california is cemented by repeating wild and generally erroneous doobietalk of the sort you have proffered. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
i wonder . . .
i was just moving some stuff around while bringing in stuff from the outside in anticipation of tonight's windstorm, and i happened upon a box containing boxed sets and original cds from several dozen now-defunct linux distributions. while i have it out, i'll add an actual boxed set of unitedlinux and my progeny stuff. which makes me wonder . . . how many commercial linux distris have there been over the years? by this i mean those who got to the point of actually burning cds and offering them for sale -- cheapbytes and linux lab cds don't count -- or at least pasting them to the cover of some weird european linux magazine? there must have been a hundred or more. i've heard of people who collect a[ssh]ol[e] cds; i'm wondering if there is a definitive collection anywhere of linux distributions . . . -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
quoth Michael Hipp: | I'd be happy with a simple market-based response where the consumer | (CEO, CIO on down to Joe PornSurfer) would decide to stop giving | money to the Edsel of software companies. | | But I'm dreaming again. If that flagship of New Americanism (Dept. of | Homeland Implosion) can't see it, then likely will few others. problem is, they *do* see it -- as does everyone else. seeing it and solving it, though, are two different things. and the broad and obvious solutions which we have all seen and suggested are vulnerable to the law of unintended consequences. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
quoth Matthew Carpenter: | They haven't drawn the conclusion that the initial outage was caused | by it, but there are reports (computerworld I believe) that MSBlast | was responsible for clogging the network pipe between power stations | used to avoid the cascading effect. The cascade-avoidance system | simply couldn't do it's job... | | I agree that it probably STARTED there as well... and ultimately it's gonna come down something like this: a crack of a major hospital or nuke plant is going to kill many or seriously endanger millions. it will be due to microsoft software. there will be an outraged response. what will the effect be? controls in the internet, probably. what it *won't* be is serious action against microsoft, even though their stuff is not only demonstrably dangerous but widely known to be dangerous. (the obvious corrective action, of course, would be to ban permanent connection to the internet of any machine running microsoftware.) there is no one to whom this is a mystery. yet such action as has been taken against microsoft on any point has been very weak. why? because the effects of a microsoft collapse would certainly be vast and severe -- far worse than the combined costs of all the attacks so far. microsoft is a very widely held security. those of us who have company stock-based retirement plans, 401ks, or any of a variety of mutual funds own microsoft stock. it really is a big player economically. so dealing with the microsoft problem *must* include some way of dealing with the substantial financial problem that handling the software problem would entail. it's easy to say "screw 'em," but that aintagonna happen. it's a real mess. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: Here we go again ...
quoth Michael Hipp: | http://apnews.excite.com/article/20030916/D7TJP93G0.html | | By TED BRIDIS | | WASHINGTON (AP) - Security researchers on Tuesday detected hackers | distributing software to break into computers using flaws announced | last week in some versions of Microsoft Corp. (MSFT)'s Windows | operating system. i still highly suspect that the august 14 blackout here (and in much of the country east of the mississippi and north of the south) is due to somebody cracking a windows box someplace. -- dep Dotcoms were based on the mathematical idea that if you multiply zero by a sufficiently large number, you've got something. -- Douglas Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: any acrobat experts here?
quoth James McDonald: | acroprefix= /usr/local/Acrobat5 | | chmod 666 $acroprefix/Reader/intellinux/app-defaults/AcroRead | | This is the file that stores /usr/bin/lpr if your user can't write to | it the setting is non-persistent dingdingdingdingding! that did it. many thanks! -- dep Dotcoms were based on the mathematical idea that if you multiply zero by a sufficiently large number, you've got something. -- Douglas Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
any acrobat experts here?
greets. i've been printing from acrobat via cups. the command is lp -d LJIIIDSS. problem is, i cannot get acrobat to remember this, and i cannot find where in the damned thing the print command is stored. i do not object to cracking open just about any part of it in order to hardwire this, but i cannot for the life of me find it. anybody know? tia. -- dep Dotcoms were based on the mathematical idea that if you multiply zero by a sufficiently large number, you've got something. -- Douglas Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: linus to darl: huh?
quoth Kurt Wall: | I want some of what Darl's been taking. no you don't. -- dep Dotcoms were based on the mathematical idea that if you multiply zero by a sufficiently large number, you've got something. -- Douglas Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Helloooooo...
quoth Tony Alfrey: | > Well if you consider getting a message on Thursday afternoon that | > was sent on Wednesday afternoon OK, then it's working OK here, too | > ;-) | | Oooh, jeeze, I guess I didn't check the dates <:o guess those rumors about the u.s. postal service taking over email have proved true . . . -- dep Dotcoms were based on the mathematical idea that if you multiply zero by a sufficiently large number, you've got something. -- Douglas Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
linus to darl: huh?
http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,84782,00.html?nas=AM-84782 -- dep Dotcoms were based on the mathematical idea that if you multiply zero by a sufficiently large number, you've got something. -- Douglas Adams ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
quoth Keith Antoine: | As I said he is isolated and frankly all the islanders want it that | way. They govern themselves although they are still uner Oz Govt | umbrella. Its a beautiful place very small and its popular here as a | short holiday destination. However they restrict the number of | visitors to the available accomodation also its not cheap. and they have a great national slogan: "we don't smoke. we don't drink. norfolk, norfolk, norfolk!" -- dep Feelings of worthlessness are often brought on by worthlessness. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: debian/gentoo/mandrake comparison
quoth Ken Moffat: | Somewhat surprising results in this quick compare, with gentoo not | showing well: | | | http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&fil |e=index&req=viewarticle&artid=227&page=1 | <http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&fi |le=index&req=viewarticle&artid=227&page=1> | | I'm sure someone will have the explanation there's a factor here that no one has considered, but it is important. let's suppose that sco does decide to go after users and through some miscarriage of justice (hey, clinton got off the hook. which clinton? both of 'em.) sco wins. gentoo users have a defense: not guilty by reason of insanity! -- dep Feelings of worthlessness are often brought on by worthlessness. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
well.
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=12808118 Microsoft's Web site was made inaccessible for an hour and 40 minutes Friday afternoon when a denial-of-service attack overwhelmed the site with traffic, making it impossible for legitimate page requests to get through. The outage, which began about 1:21 p.m. Pacific time, was the result of a conventional denial-of- service attack and not a software vulnerability being exploited, a Microsoft spokesman says. That distinction is important because the software company issued a bulletin July 14 warning customers of a critical vulnerability in its Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP, and Windows Server 2003 operating systems. Following that notice, the Department of Homeland Security issued its own advisory warning consumers and businesses to patch their computer systems. The denial-of-service attack affected Microsoft's home page, www.microsoft.com, and the many other URLs associated with it, including Microsoft's tech-support page, www.support.microsoft.com, and its developer portal, www.msdn.microsoft.com. Microsoft personnel are working in conjunction with law-enforcement officials to trace the attack. The spokesman points out that a hacker's conference opened Friday in Las Vegas. But he said Microsoft had no evidence to link the denial-of-service attack to the conference or to warnings three weeks ago of a broad, coordinated attack against Internet sites. -- dep Feelings of worthlessness are often brought on by worthlessness. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
and, while we're at it . .
while the san jose paper notes it's a microsoft problem, computerworld notes that it's probably more than just a potential inconvenience: http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/holes/story/0,10801,83619,00.html?nas=PM-83619 Concerns mount over possible big Net attack A flaw that affects almost all versions of the Windows operating system could be exploited By Paul Roberts, IDG News Service JULY 31, 2003 Security experts warn that a recently disclosed security vulnerability in Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating system may soon be used by a powerful Internet worm that could disrupt traffic on the Internet and affect millions of machines worldwide. The vulnerability, a buffer overrun in a Windows interface that handles the remote procedure call (RPC) protocol, was acknowledged by Microsoft in Security Bulletin MS03-026 on July 16. Today, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security updated an earlier warning about the RPC vulnerability, noting increased network scanning and the widespread distribution of working exploits on the Internet. The vulnerability affects almost all versions of Windows and could enable remote attackers to place and run malicious code on affected machines, giving them total control over the systems, Microsoft said. No user interaction would be required for machines to be compromised, prompting security experts to liken the RPC vulnerability to the buffer-overflow vulnerability in Microsoft's Internet Information Server (IIS) that was exploited by the Code Red worm in July 2001. "I would compare [the RPC vulnerability] to Code Red. It doesn't require user interaction, and the number of infectable machines is on same order of magnitude," said Johannes Ullrich, chief technology officer at the Bethesda, Md.-based SANS Institute's Internet Storm Center. . . . -- dep Feelings of worthlessness are often brought on by worthlessness. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
well, why not
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/business/6429877.htm Government issues second warning on Microsoft security flaw LOS ANGELES - The Department of Homeland Security has issued an unprecedented second warning to Internet users about a security flaw in Microsoft Corp. software that could leave about 75 percent of the country's computers vulnerable to hacker attacks. The latest warning comes two weeks after Microsoft issued a bulletin notifying computer users it had discovered a critical flaw in its most common Windows operating systems, including its newest versions, Windows XP and Windows Server 2003. The flaw can let hackers use the Internet to seize control of users' machines to steal files, read e-mails and launch wide-scale computer virus and ``worm'' attacks that could seriously damage the Internet. . . . -- dep Feelings of worthlessness are often brought on by worthlessness. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Australia Sends SCO on Walkabout
quoth Roger Oberholtzer: | Oddly, bitters are considered the cheaper of British offerings, yet | they are more to my taste. Still, my all time favorite British ale is | the Kentish Bishop's Finger. Too bad the pub across the street has it | on tap. This way my wife can look out the window and see if I am | there. At least in summer when one must be outside. the yorkshire ales, especially the tadcaster ones, are in my estimation as good as it gets or can get. the reason i am not a drunk is that they are difficult to get here. -- dep Feelings of worthlessness are often brought on by worthlessness. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
gee. what a surprise.
i could have sworn i read something like this on linux and main awhile back . . . http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5057840.html?tag=fd_top An IBM executive has claimed that a "set of forces" is attempting to derail Linux, and hinted that Microsoft and SCO Group are among those responsible. Al Zollar, a general manager of sales for IBM eServer iSeries, told delegates attending the company's Asia Pacific Strategic Planning Conference in Queensland, Australia, on Tuesday that a "set of forces" was attempting to stymie adoption of the open-source operating system. "They're mostly located in Redmond, although they have recruited a few allies," said Zollar. Microsoft has its headquarters in Redmond, Wash. Zollar then indicated that SCO was part of the alliance. The company, based in Lindon, Utah, has made intellectual property claims to certain code contained in some versions of Linux and is maneuvering to gather license fees from commercial applications of the operating system. . . . -- dep Feelings of worthlessness are often brought on by worthlessness. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: SCO Execs Cashing In
quoth Michael Hipp: | Just as many suspected, SCO Execs have no more confidence in their | dreamy lawsuit than any of the rest of us. So they're cashing in on | the short term bubble it created. | | http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5057033.html even more interesting, to me, is the fact that the boys can issue 45,000,000 shares (whether this is total or whether it is in addition to the 13,500,000 outstanding shares was not clear), which of couse would greatly dilute the value, such as it is, of their current lottery tic^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h shares. the potential for manipulation is tremendous. and while i have not seen prima facie evidence that it is taking place, i also haven't seen anything that doesn't point in that direction. -- dep Feelings of worthlessness are often brought on by worthlessness. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More Outlook and IE problems coming
quoth Net Llama!: | I have DSL, not cable. My bandwidth remains the same regardless of | what the rest of the planet's idiots are doing. not true. when ie and outlook vulnerabilities are being exploited, which is to say all the time, you're being hindered along the line, even if you don't see it locally. there is x amount of bandwidth, and those exploits consume y, leaving x-y for you and everyone else. which is to say that the leak in the pipe reduces the pressure, whether you see it or not. -- dep Feelings of worthlessness are often brought on by worthlessness. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More Outlook and IE problems coming
quoth Net Llama!: | On 07/29/03 19:29, Joel Hammer wrote: | > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3107613.stm | > | > It never stops. | | that's strange, it never started for me. then again, i don't use M$ | products. ah, but that scarcely matters. for instance, there's no mshit running here, but there certainly is some running on the same branch of the cable network, because bandwidth is being sucked up like you wouldn't believe. the effect is an internet connection equivalent to about a 14.4kbps modem on a 1-meg cable connection. so it's like a yugo -- doesn't matter whether it's yours or not if it breaks down at rush hour on the street on which you're trying to get to work. -- dep Feelings of worthlessness are often brought on by worthlessness. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: pcmcia on Suse 8.0
quoth Rick Sivernell: | Suse users needed | |Got myself a copy of suse 8.0 pro. most evertything is working ok, | but not ifconfig. This was a full fresh install over Caldera 3.1.1. | Now cardctl status ident and config is proper as it should be. pcmcia | start says it is ok but when I do ifconfig all I get is lo setup and | running. it seems to be about one step away from complete. I set | everythoing per Yast2, but that failed to set | /etc/pcmcia/network.opts at all. I fixed that, Not sure what to do | next here. | | Appreciate any help here. try a "safe mode" boot (typically the second item on the grub menu). it probably will work. in which case you need to add acpi=off to the menu.lst config file. suse has had a little trouble with this of late, alas. -- dep Feelings of worthlessness are often brought on by worthlessness. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: printing pdf files? -- solved
quoth Roger Oberholtzer: | I think you are screwed. I had a form to print in a similar way. All | the printing programs ultimately use ghostscript. If ghostscript | won't show it, the system won't print it. And, my experience is that | you get no error. It just goes into the ozone. But, saving to a file | in postscript and then checking it interactively with gv shows the | problem. interestingly, i found the solution. gv and ghostscript as shipped with suse 8.2 (and everywhere else i can find) are, um, suck-enabled. monicaware. however . . . printing from acrobat is possible. the syntax is lp -d [printername] (in my case, LJIIIDSS; printername[s] can be learned by typing lpstat -p at a bash prompt, which any user may do) -- dep Feelings of worthlessness are often brought on by worthlessness. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
printing pdf files?
a tad of an emergency here, because i have some forms i need to fill out and file, but i can't print the silly things. i'm running cups and acrobat wants to use /usr/bin/lpr; i do not get anything at all when i allow it to proceed. likewise xpdf. ghostview gives me errors before even loading the file, as does the kde pdf viewer. so i guess what i'm looking for is the command string necessary to get acrobat to send through cups, i.e., what to say on the line where it says /usr/bin/lpr. any ideas? -- dep Feelings of worthlessness are often brought on by worthlessness. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HELP: Someone is using my domain name to send spam
quoth Kurt Wall: | Quoth Federico Voges: | > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | > Hash: SHA1 | > | > Hi, | > | > I was hoping to get the spammer to stop using my domain name. | > But... | | Have you made sure you aren't an open relay? it doesn't matter this time round. they're using email addresses selected at random -- often from bounced messages, apparently -- and spoofing 'em. evil sonsabitches. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
quoth Tony Alfrey: | Q. What do you call three lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? dead moe, dead larry, and dead curly. actually, i made up a joke yesterday: in the civilized world, mothers tell their children always to wear clean underwear because they might get into an accident. in california, however, mothers tell their children always to keep their car washed -- same reason. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
oh, boy. more fun. can't somebody just execute these bozos?
http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/hacking/story/0,10801,82730,00.html?nas=PM-82730 An international hacking contest scheduled to begin this weekend could cause headaches for organizations worldwide and disrupt the Internet, according to a warning from Internet Security Systems Inc. (ISS). The contest, known as the Defacers Challenge, awards points to malicious hackers who successfully compromise an organization's Web server and deface its Web pages. ISS first became aware of the contest last week by monitoring Web sites and Internet Relay Chat channels frequented by malicious hackers who specialize in defacements, according to Peter Allor, manager of X-Force Threat Intelligence Services at Atlanta-based ISS. Rather than focusing on the volume of defacements, the Defacers Challenge is set up to reward the skill of malicious hackers who can compromise systems running less prominent operating systems, including Apple Computer Inc.'s Mac OS and Unix variants such as IBM's AIX and Hewlett-Packard Co.'s HP-UX. Contest organizers even set up a Web page (www.defacers-challenge.com) that outlines the rules of the game, including a point system for compromised machines -- one point for Windows, five for HP-UX and Macintosh -- and guidelines for what counts as a valid defacement. The target is to deface 6,000 Web sites. A prize of free Web site hosting is offered to the malicious hacker who can reach that goal first or accumulate the most Web sites in trying to do so, according to information posted on the site. . . . -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HELP: Someone is using my domain name to send spam
quoth Kurt Wall: | Quoth Federico Voges: | > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | > Hash: SHA1 | > | > Hi, | > | > I was hoping to get the spammer to stop using my domain name. | > But... | | Have you made sure you aren't an open relay? it doesn't matter this time round. they're using email addresses selected at random -- often from bounced messages, apparently -- and spoofing 'em. evil sonsabitches. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
quoth ronnie gauthier: | I think having to scroll down through 500 lines of crap to find a | one line answer sucks. and i think that inasmuch as one cannot subscribe to every-other message or every-10th message or merely the occasional random message, that absent any poetic purpose in having 500 lines of one-line answers people ought trim the frigging quotes! that having been said, top replying does suck -- it smacks of the overbearing fourth-grade teacher. or a lawyer or something. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Blame [OT]
quoth Tom Condon: there's one more: if a guy gets all liquored up and runs his car into someone, it's an alcohol-related incident, but if he gets all liquored up and shoots someone, it's a gun-related incident. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: utterly OT -- the view here this morning
quoth Kurt Wall: | Quoth dep: | > out the front door about half an hour ago. | > | > http://www.linuxandmain.com/artwork/allieandpal.jpg | | I take it Allie is the gorgeous piece of hosreflesh? yup. 22-year-old thoroughbred. our pet. a very distinct personality, but also proof of my notion that the scientific name of the thoroughbred should be "Equus stupidicus." same horse whose picture appears several places in practical kde, included being taken over a jump by my wife. there's a downside to it all, alas -- just now i had to deal with an obviously rabid red fox (a redundancy hereabouts, alas), which had found its way into the upper paddock, about 20 feet behind the place where the deer stood, just on the other side of the fence from it. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: utterly OT -- the view here this morning
quoth ronnie gauthier: | saltlick? nope -- just the paddock. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
utterly OT -- the view here this morning
out the front door about half an hour ago. http://www.linuxandmain.com/artwork/allieandpal.jpg -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Installing truetype fonts
tutorial is here: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/3093/1/ first: you *must* upgrade your xfree-86. truetype support was unusable with 4.01. you may have to upgrade your kde and qt as well. to find out what version of kde you have, open the kde control center. the first page will tell you. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Video card
quoth Joel Hammer: | My video card only has 32 megs of ram, and, so I cannot get 24 bit | depth to work properly at higher resolutions. you may not want to -- practically everything (opengl, for instance, and certainly direct rendering of 3-d objects) is optimized for 16bpp. i have a fast radeon card here with 128 megs, and i run it on a 19-inch sony monitor at 1280x960 and 16bpp. what is especially nice about it is that it allows memory interleaving, which meand that the effective speed is much greater. | XFree86 Version 4.0.1 / X Window System | (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400) | Release Date: 1 July 2000 | Operating System: Linux 2.2.14 i686 [ELF] | | That last line is somewhat puzzling because uname -a reports: | 2.4.5-win4lin #3 Wed Jul 4 16:01:48 EDT 2001 i686 unknown not especially. it's reporting what the xfree was built on, not what it's running on. which in turn suggests that you might want to do some upgrading -- a lot has happened in re. kernel-xfree interaction since linux 2.2. expecially if you're running or hope to run an agp card. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Clash of Egos
quoth Joel Hammer: | You can only imagine how much Bill Gates loves to see the linux | people arguing among themselves. Such behavior reinforces the MS | message. Linux is not for serious people. i doubt he spents much time on this, or does much of anyone else. there are always brush wars. and the issue here, anyway, is whether or not gentoo is for serious people. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Two reasons I use Linux
quoth Kurt Wall: | "Linux users brag about how long their systems stay up; Window | users know it's only a temporary condition." "Now! Viagra for Windows! Get it up, keep it up!" also "Now! Monica for Linux. When you *want* your computer to go down!" -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: your_details
quoth Bill Campbell: | Hackers aren't the only thing that cause serious economic loss. | The lost productivity waiting for Windows systems to reboot, even | if there's no data loss, I did some rough calculations after | reading an article that said United Parcel Service had about | 160,000 Windows machines (bragging of course :-). Assuming that | each machine had only one unscheduled reboot a day with no data | loss, the cost for lost time per year was well over $10,000,000 USD | (closer to 20M). i easily believe that. and it's an important issue. but it's also an issue different from those who with malice seek to disrupt other people's machines and the internet itself. as a friend once put it to me, if you catch your wife in bed with another guy and you shoot the other guy, you haven't solved the problem." and in any case, microsoft has no incentive to tighten its system; nor, apparently, do most windows users. neither microsoft nor windows is going away. those who exploit flaws in windows are eating up *my* bandwidth and sending crap to *my* mailbox. (and, apparently, gathering email addresses that include mine from messages sent to windows machines, and sending out virus-infected mail with my return address on it.) and if an effort were made to catch such persons and, when they are caught, cause them extreme distress -- perhaps send them to texas, where the gay guys have a lot of pent-up desire to stretch sphincters, to which the supreme court today gave the go-ahead -- there would be a lot less of this foolishness. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: your_details
quoth Bill Campbell: | I've always that the directors and officers of any public company | are guilty of malfeasance if they entrust sensitive data to | Windows. What would happen if bankers left the vault and doors | unlocked? they would be held accountable, or should be -- but that should in no way diminish the culpability of those who wander in and steal the money. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: your_details
quoth Joel Hammer: | your_details.zip | | Does anyone know what this email attachment is? This is a zip file | which contains a pif file. It seems to be a windows targeted nasty. http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/virus/story/0,10801,82512,00.html?nas=AM-82512 "The worm affects network PCs that run the Windows 95/98/Me and Windows NT/2000 operating systems, according to Sophos. It spreads by scouring an infected computer's hard drive for e-mail addresses in address books or even Web browser cache files, then sends itself out to the addresses it finds. It can spoof its sender's address, so the recipients believe they are receiving a message from someone they know. "This is the latest in a series of Sobig worms in recent months, Cluley said. The new version is being sent as a .zip file, perhaps to allow it to spread in corporate environments where .exe and other file types are automatically blocked in incoming e-mails, he said. 'It's hard to speculate' why the new approach was taken, Cluley said." -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: your_details
quoth Bill Campbell: | Aren't you targeting the wrong folks? Shouldn't you be heading | for my neighbor in Redmond? well, they bear some responsibility, sure, but leaving locks off the doors only makes the burglar's job easier -- it doesn't excuse the burglar. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: your_details
quoth Kurt Wall: | Quoth David A. Bandel: | | > Sorry you folks have to deal with or even worry about it. They | > don't seem to affect any of my systems. ;-) | | Nope. Nothing here at KurtWerks seems to mind. :-) it's simply the fact that these bozos are making the *attempt.* which so far as i'm concerned entitles them to a free treatment which will introduce them to the attributes of life with fused kneecaps. and fingers that have come to have more than the usual number of knuckles. -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
