Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-11 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth M.W. Chang:
 better than open office?

Yup, in the same way that single malt scotch is better than Listerine.

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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-11 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth dep:
 i use textmaker -- couldn't live without it -- and it is very, very 
 good. i got this note from 'em tonight and thought i'd pass it along in 
 case anyone had been interested but didn't want to pay $50 for the 
 product (though if it were $200 it would be worth it, imho).

Just ordered mine. They sold the first 1,111, but cut loose another
1,111. Thanks for the info, dep!

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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-11 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:00:35 -0800 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 11 November 2003 01:23 pm, Kurt Wall wrote:
  Quoth M.W. Chang:
   better than open office?
 
  Yup, in the same way that single malt scotch is better than
  Listerine.
 
  Kurt
 
 On this thread, someone commented that they had pretty good success with 
 OO and textmaker re: Word format docs.  Just for grins, I loaded up OO 
 and opened up a Word doc that someone just sent me.  Looked pretty 
 wierd in OO but looked perfect with textmaker.
 

I've gone both ways OO-Doc and vice versa.  The key to getting good results
(for me at least) is to have identical fonts.  If you are going to do this on a
regular basis, you really need a copy of the Windows fonts available to OO.


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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-11 Thread dep
quoth Leon A. Goldstein:

| I ordered a copy this morning.  I will only use Textmaker 
| occasionally to format HTML documents.  After playing a bit with the
| trial download, I do find Textmaker a lot  simpler for the non-expert
| to format a HTML document than OO or Staroffice.

that's the one thing for which i found textmaker fairly unsuitable -- it 
behaves like koffice and some others in putting in *way* too much 
formatting, often more than doubling the size of the document. 
(actually, kword did a lot to fix this by offering a stripped html 
formatting option.) there's not a really good linux wysiwig html editor 
that i've found.
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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-11 Thread Myles Green
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 04:23:43PM -0500, Kurt Wall wrote:
 Quoth M.W. Chang:
  better than open office?
 
 Yup, in the same way that single malt scotch is better than Listerine.
 
 Kurt

Mm... single malt scotch, something I haven't had for *years*. Ah 
well, back to my Sprite.


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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-11 Thread Leon A. Goldstein


Dep wrote:

quoth Leon A. Goldstein:

| I ordered a copy this morning. I will only use Textmaker
| occasionally to format HTML documents. After playing a bit with the
| trial download, I do find Textmaker a lot simpler for the non-expert
| to format a HTML document than OO or Staroffice.

that's the one thing for which i found textmaker fairly unsuitable -- it
behaves like koffice and some others in putting in *way* too much
formatting, often more than doubling the size of the document.
(actually, kword did a lot to fix this by offering a stripped html
formatting option.) there's not a really good linux wysiwig html editor
that i've found.


Now you tell me. ;-(>)
I suppose file bloat is the price you pay for convenience. One
of these days I'll figure out how to use Bluefish.

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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-09 Thread M.W. Chang
what does textmaker do?

dep wrote:
 i use textmaker -- couldn't live without it -- and it is very, very 
 good. i got this note from 'em tonight and thought i'd pass it along in 
 case anyone had been interested but didn't want to pay $50 for the 
 product (though if it were $200 it would be worth it, imho).

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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-09 Thread dep
quoth M.W. Chang:
| what does textmaker do?

it is an *excellent* word processor. reads and writes msft word files of 
many flavors -- best filters i've ever seen. and is both very powerful 
and very fast. i've so far used it for three book proposals 
(complicated documents of about 25,000 words each) and numerous 
magazine pieces, and it hasn't hiccuped even once. and it works very 
well on a low-resources machine; it's very fast on my celeron 366 
notebook with 192 megs of memory.
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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-09 Thread Rick Sivernell
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:37:01 +0800
M.W. Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 what does textmaker do?
 
 dep wrote:
  i use textmaker -- couldn't live without it -- and it is very, very 
  good. i got this note from 'em tonight and thought i'd pass it along in 
  case anyone had been interested but didn't want to pay $50 for the 
  product (though if it were $200 it would be worth it, imho).
 
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  I dl the free trial, what installs it.
RickSivernell textmakertrial # ll
total 14851
drwxr-xr-x7 500  users 912 Sep 19 09:12 .
drwxr-xr-x3 rick users 152 Nov  9 07:02 ..
drwxrwxrwx2 500  users 552 May  2  2003 fonts
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  487476 Nov 16  1998 gerconv.thn
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  665627 Nov 15  1998 german.dcn
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users   70685 Jun 13  2002 german.hyp
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  644280 Sep 22  1998 german.thn
drwxr-xr-x4 500  users2216 May 27 10:39 html
drwxr-xr-x2 500  users 240 Apr 15  2003 icons
drwxr-xr-x5 500  users 128 Mar 26  2003 install_de
drwxr-xr-x5 500  users 136 Apr 29  2003 install_en
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  648047 Nov 16  1998 ngerman.dcn
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users   84966 Jan 15  1999 ngerman.hyp
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  644483 Sep 23  1998 ngerman.thn
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users 5875354 Sep 19 09:31 tml
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  482012 Sep 19 09:31 tml.awr
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  498902 Sep 19 09:31 tml.dwr
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  498999 Sep 19 09:31 tml.nwr
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  482057 Sep 19 09:31 tml.uwr
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users 1564237 Apr 30  2003 tml_de.pdf
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  956305 Dec 25  2002 tml_en.pdf
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  187663 Sep 21  1998 ukeng.dcn
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users   23080 Jan 15  1999 ukeng.hyp
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  457033 Sep 23  1998 ukeng.thn
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  185550 Sep 21  1998 useng.dcn
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users   88232 Jan 15  1999 useng.hyp
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  456454 Sep 23  1998 useng.thn
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users   31005 Feb 19  2003 vgacou.dwf
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users6047 Feb 19  2003 vgahlv.dwf
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users6306 Feb 19  2003 vgasys.dwf
-rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  109672 Feb 19  2003 vgatms.dwf

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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-09 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Sunday 09 November 2003 05:10 am, Rick Sivernell wrote:
 On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:37:01 +0800

 M.W. Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  what does textmaker do?

It's a floor wax . . . No, it's a dessert topping . . . .No, floor wax, 
. . . .  No, dessert topping.  Stop, you're both right!
And, for a limited time only, not just $59.95, or $49.95, but, if you 
mention that you saw it on linuxandmain, yours for only $29.95 
(shipping and handling not included).

Seriously, however, it's a Word replacement that works well, reads and 
writes Word format.

 
  dep wrote:
   i use textmaker -- couldn't live without it -- and it is very,
   very good. i got this note from 'em tonight and thought i'd pass
   it along in case anyone had been interested but didn't want to
   pay $50 for the product (though if it were $200 it would be worth
   it, imho).
 
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 RickSivernell textmakertrial # ll
 total 14851
 drwxr-xr-x7 500  users 912 Sep 19 09:12 .
 drwxr-xr-x3 rick users 152 Nov  9 07:02 ..
 drwxrwxrwx2 500  users 552 May  2  2003 fonts
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  487476 Nov 16  1998 gerconv.thn
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  665627 Nov 15  1998 german.dcn
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users   70685 Jun 13  2002 german.hyp
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  644280 Sep 22  1998 german.thn
 drwxr-xr-x4 500  users2216 May 27 10:39 html
 drwxr-xr-x2 500  users 240 Apr 15  2003 icons
 drwxr-xr-x5 500  users 128 Mar 26  2003 install_de
 drwxr-xr-x5 500  users 136 Apr 29  2003 install_en
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  648047 Nov 16  1998 ngerman.dcn
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users   84966 Jan 15  1999 ngerman.hyp
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  644483 Sep 23  1998 ngerman.thn
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users 5875354 Sep 19 09:31 tml
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  482012 Sep 19 09:31 tml.awr
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  498902 Sep 19 09:31 tml.dwr
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  498999 Sep 19 09:31 tml.nwr
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  482057 Sep 19 09:31 tml.uwr
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users 1564237 Apr 30  2003 tml_de.pdf
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  956305 Dec 25  2002 tml_en.pdf
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  187663 Sep 21  1998 ukeng.dcn
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users   23080 Jan 15  1999 ukeng.hyp
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  457033 Sep 23  1998 ukeng.thn
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  185550 Sep 21  1998 useng.dcn
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users   88232 Jan 15  1999 useng.hyp
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  456454 Sep 23  1998 useng.thn
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users   31005 Feb 19  2003 vgacou.dwf
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users6047 Feb 19  2003 vgahlv.dwf
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users6306 Feb 19  2003 vgasys.dwf
 -rwxr-xr-x1 500  users  109672 Feb 19  2003 vgatms.dwf

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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-09 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Sunday 09 November 2003 04:49 am, dep wrote:
 quoth M.W. Chang:
 | what does textmaker do?

 it is an *excellent* word processor. reads and writes msft word files
 of many flavors -- best filters i've ever seen. and is both very
 powerful and very fast. i've so far used it for three book proposals

Yeah, but did you get the contract??  g

 (complicated documents of about 25,000 words each) 

My God, can you imagine reading another 25,000 words of dep??  Like that 
Practical KDE book he wrote that I bought that was out of date about 
two months after it came out g ;-)
And the book came with no cheap upgrades, unlike Textmaker.

 and numerous
 magazine pieces, and it hasn't hiccuped even once. and it works very
 well on a low-resources machine; it's very fast on my celeron 366
 notebook with 192 megs of memory.

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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-09 Thread M.W. Chang
better than open office?

Tony Alfrey wrote:

 Seriously, however, it's a Word replacement that works well, reads and 
 writes Word format.

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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-09 Thread Leon Goldstein
M. W. Chang wrote:

better than open office?

Tony Alfrey wrote:

 

Seriously, however, it's a Word replacement that works well, reads and 
writes Word format.
   

I dloaded the trial version after reading the original post.
Abiword still gets my nod.  The latest release that came with Libranet 
2.8.1 can read/write WP files.

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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-09 Thread dep
quoth M.W. Chang:
| better than open office?

far different (though in my estimation oodles better, also). textmaker 
is a word processor/desktop publisher, period. it is much, much smaller 
and much, much faster than openoffice. on a machine here where 
openoffice takes more than a minute to open and ready to take input, 
textmaker takes six seconds. textmaker also makes better use of fonts 
and offers full antialiasing. the differences are on a par with the 
differences between opera and mozilla. (or, to be more accurate, opera 
18 months ago and mozilla 18 months ago.)

i've used dozens of word processors in the last 20 years -- no, scores 
of word processors. textmaker is my favorite of the lot. i am not sure 
it is possible to overpraise it -- it's just great.
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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-09 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Sunday 09 November 2003 09:29 am, M.W. Chang wrote:
 better than open office?

 Tony Alfrey wrote:
  Seriously, however, it's a Word replacement that works well, reads
  and writes Word format.

Don't know; haven't used OO.
Sorry.

I think they still have a trial version; load it up and give it a spin.

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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-09 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Sunday 09 November 2003 07:05 am, Collins Richey wrote:
snip
 I'm used to waiting for reponse from user groups re open source
 products, but IMHO a commerical provider needs to have a little
 better response than this.

 Perhaps I'll try again or try to buy it during the Karnival madness.

Try it; you'll like it.

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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-09 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
OpenOffice is more akin to the full MS Office suite - it has Word, Excel, 
and Powerpoint equivalents and I've found it works well.

Tony Alfrey wrote:

 On Sunday 09 November 2003 09:29 am, M.W. Chang wrote:
 better than open office?

 Tony Alfrey wrote:
  Seriously, however, it's a Word replacement that works well, reads
  and writes Word format.
 
 Don't know; haven't used OO.
 Sorry.
 
 I think they still have a trial version; load it up and give it a spin.
 

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Re: textmaker for very little money, tuesday only

2003-11-09 Thread Collins
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 13:28, Tony Alfrey wrote:
 On Sunday 09 November 2003 07:05 am, Collins Richey wrote:
 snip
  I'm used to waiting for reponse from user groups re open source
  products, but IMHO a commerical provider needs to have a little
  better response than this.
 
  Perhaps I'll try again or try to buy it during the Karnival madness.
 
 Try it; you'll like it.

I got a prompt response from textmaker tech support this time.  Per
their story, an ex-employee sat on a lot of emails, including mine, so I
will try the lottery on Tuesday.

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