Re: This is just a test

2003-11-07 Thread James McDonald
Is it possible to do an ftp server with dialup where the IP address changes 
every time I log on and I don't have a domain registered anywhere so a DNS 
service would be useless?

Sounds like you want a dynamic dns service.

go to http://www.dyndns.org org and register

once logged in click the services tab

on the left hand side select the dynamic dns link it will expand to a 
list of sub options.

click add host and make up a hostname and select which domain you want 
it to belong to and click add.

Once you have done the above you need a DDNS Client, Click the Clients 
link under Dynamic DNS and select one for your OS.

Download and configure it with your www.dyndns.org username and password 
and the hostname.x.xxx domain you selected and configure the update 
options per your tastes (the defaults are always a good start)

Now when ever you dial up make sure that you have the DDNS Client active 
and updating your name to ip address mapping.





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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-31 Thread David A. Bandel
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:20:29 -0500
Robert E.Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

 
 If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself, I
 just want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't
 have enough FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a 10
 MB filesize limit.

So why don't _you_ set up an FTP server they can d/l stuff from?

10MB+ e-mails?  SMTP was never designed for that kind of nonsense. 
Called using the right tool for the job (ftp, rsync).

Ciao,

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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-31 Thread Robert E.Raymond
On Friday 31 October 2003 6:29, David A. Bandel wrote:
 On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:23:31 -0500
 Robert E.Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [snippage]

  V6
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  N1
  P32378
  MDeferred: Connection timed out with smtp.linux-sxs.org.
  Fbs

 Some ISPs block port 25.  Can you telnet to the linux-sxs server on port
 25?

 Ciao,

 David A. Bandel

Nope, I can't.  Any way I can get around the blockage?

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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-31 Thread Robert E.Raymond
On Friday 31 October 2003 6:31, David A. Bandel wrote:
 On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:20:29 -0500
 Robert E.Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [snip]

  If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself, I
  just want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't
  have enough FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a 10
  MB filesize limit.

 So why don't _you_ set up an FTP server they can d/l stuff from?

 10MB+ e-mails?  SMTP was never designed for that kind of nonsense.
 Called using the right tool for the job (ftp, rsync).

Is it possible to do an ftp server with dialup where the IP address changes 
every time I log on and I don't have a domain registered anywhere so a DNS 
service would be useless?

I was thinking SMTP because then I could send the file at my leisure and the 
guy who needs the large files could receive it at his (we're on other sides 
of the pond.. so different sleep schedules.. plus dialup ain't as always on 
as I'd like it to be with other people in the house and an ISP that is very 
anti-internet-connection-sharing)

Bob Raymond

 Ciao,

 David A. Bandel

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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-31 Thread Robert E.Raymond
On Friday 31 October 2003 7:36, David A. Bandel wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 06:52:36 -0500
 Robert E.Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  On Friday 31 October 2003 6:29, David A. Bandel wrote:
 
   On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:23:31 -0500
   Robert E.Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   [snippage]
  
  
V6
T1067573880
K1067574071
N1
P32378
MDeferred: Connection timed out with smtp.linux-sxs.org.
Fbs
  
  
   Some ISPs block port 25.  Can you telnet to the linux-sxs server on
   port 25?
  
   Ciao,
  
   David A. Bandel
 
  
  Nope, I can't.  Any way I can get around the blockage?

 
 Send them an angry letter and get another provider.  Despite the
 hazards, taking away freedom by blocking ports is the wrong way to fight
 the spam problem.
 
 Ciao,
 
 David A. Bandel

Arggh.. around here there is one other provider.  I have no problems with 
it,except they only offer one email addy, which would go to my parents.  
Though I still get my inbox loaded with spam so their methods don't seem 
to be working.

But still.. is there a reason why I can send and receive sendmail messages to 
myself?

Oh well.. I'll see about the FTP option...

Bob Raymond

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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-31 Thread Tom Wilson
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 06:55, Robert E.Raymond wrote:
 On Friday 31 October 2003 6:31, David A. Bandel wrote:
  On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:20:29 -0500
  Robert E.Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  [snip]
 
   If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself, I
   just want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't
   have enough FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a 10
   MB filesize limit.
 
  So why don't _you_ set up an FTP server they can d/l stuff from?
 
  10MB+ e-mails?  SMTP was never designed for that kind of nonsense.
  Called using the right tool for the job (ftp, rsync).
 
 Is it possible to do an ftp server with dialup where the IP address changes 
 every time I log on and I don't have a domain registered anywhere so a DNS 
 service would be useless?

Have you looked at dyndns.org or one of the similar services?  That may
be what you need.

Tom Wilson 
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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-31 Thread Robert E.Raymond
On Friday 31 October 2003 10:42, Tom Wilson wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 06:55, Robert E.Raymond wrote:
  On Friday 31 October 2003 6:31, David A. Bandel wrote:
   On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:20:29 -0500
   Robert E.Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   [snip]
  
If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself,
I just want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't
have enough FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a
10 MB filesize limit.
  
   So why don't _you_ set up an FTP server they can d/l stuff from?
  
   10MB+ e-mails?  SMTP was never designed for that kind of nonsense.
   Called using the right tool for the job (ftp, rsync).
 
  Is it possible to do an ftp server with dialup where the IP address
  changes every time I log on and I don't have a domain registered anywhere
  so a DNS service would be useless?

 Have you looked at dyndns.org or one of the similar services?  That may
 be what you need.

See, the thing about a place like that, I'd need to reg a domain, right?

I'm trying to do this for free, which sendmail and ftp both are.  I just need 
to send the guy files periodically (right now is one of those times ;)), and 
I suppose I could mail him a CD but it's certainly cheaper to just send him 
the files.

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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-31 Thread Hermann J. Beckers
Hi Robert,

 See, the thing about a place like that, I'd need to reg a domain, right?

 I'm trying to do this for free, which sendmail and ftp both are.  I just
 need to send the guy files periodically (right now is one of those times
 ;)),

Would a commandline tool like sendEmail be enough? See 
http://caspian.dotconf.net/menu/Software/SendEmail/


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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-31 Thread Tim Wunder
On 10/31/2003 11:04 AM, I believe that Robert E.Raymond wrote:

On Friday 31 October 2003 10:42, Tom Wilson wrote:

On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 06:55, Robert E.Raymond wrote:

On Friday 31 October 2003 6:31, David A. Bandel wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:20:29 -0500
Robert E.Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]


If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself,
I just want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't
have enough FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a
10 MB filesize limit.
So why don't _you_ set up an FTP server they can d/l stuff from?

10MB+ e-mails?  SMTP was never designed for that kind of nonsense.
Called using the right tool for the job (ftp, rsync).
Is it possible to do an ftp server with dialup where the IP address
changes every time I log on and I don't have a domain registered anywhere
so a DNS service would be useless?
Have you looked at dyndns.org or one of the similar services?  That may
be what you need.


See, the thing about a place like that, I'd need to reg a domain, right?

I'm trying to do this for free, which sendmail and ftp both are.  I just need 
to send the guy files periodically (right now is one of those times ;)), and 
I suppose I could mail him a CD but it's certainly cheaper to just send him 
the files.

No. Check it out again. You can get name.dyndns.org for free, IIRC.
Let's go here:
http://www.dyndns.org/services/dyndns/
and see...
OK, according to that page:
The Dynamic DNS service allows you to alias a dynamic IP address to a 
static hostname in any of the many domains we offer, allowing your 
computer to be more easily accessed from various locations on the 
Internet. We provide this service, for up to five (5) hostnames, free to 
the Internet community.

The Dynamic DNS service is ideal for a home website, file server, or 
just to keep a pointer back to your home PC so you can access those 
important documents while you're at work. Using one of the available 
third-party update clients you can keep your hostname always pointing to 
your IP address, no matter how often your ISP changes it. No more 
fumbling to find that piece of paper where you wrote down your IP 
address, or e-mailing all your friends every time it changes. Just tell 
them to visit yourname.dyndns.org instead!

Sounds llike what you want to me.

HTH,
Tim
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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-31 Thread Tom Wilson
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 11:04, Robert E.Raymond wrote:
 See, the thing about a place like that, I'd need to reg a domain, right?
 
 I'm trying to do this for free, which sendmail and ftp both are.  I just need 
 to send the guy files periodically (right now is one of those times ;)), and 
 I suppose I could mail him a CD but it's certainly cheaper to just send him 
 the files.

I'm not sure but it definately helps. :-)  Does you ISP offer free web
hosting?  If they do and depending on the amount of space they offer for
free, you could always make a website and post the files there for
downloading.  

Tom Wilson 
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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-31 Thread David A. Bandel
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:44:07 -0500
Robert E.Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
 
 Arggh.. around here there is one other provider.  I have no problems
 with it,except they only offer one email addy, which would go to my
 parents.  Though I still get my inbox loaded with spam so their
 methods don't seem to be working.

They block at their border routers.  So you can send within their
network (which is one trick spammers use, they also hijack Windoze boxes
to send tons of crap).  Port blocking only hurts legitimate users. 
Kinda like outlawing guns so only the outlaws the law is aimed at
keeping guns away from will have guns. 

 
 But still.. is there a reason why I can send and receive sendmail
 messages to myself?

of course you can -- either through your own ISP or your own server (see
my first para above, first sentence).

 
 Oh well.. I'll see about the FTP option...
 

Ciao,

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This is just a test

2003-10-30 Thread Robert E.Raymond
Hi all,

I'm testing sendmail.

If you receive this you all know it works.

If you don't, no one but me will know it doesn't work.

I'll also know it works, but you're welcome to respond just to confirm that 
you received it anyway.

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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-30 Thread Robert E.Raymond
On Thursday 30 October 2003 15:37, Robert E.Raymond wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm testing sendmail.

 If you receive this you all know it works.

 If you don't, no one but me will know it doesn't work.

 I'll also know it works, but you're welcome to respond just to confirm that
 you received it anyway.

Aggh.. sorry all I sent that with SMTP

sendmail still ain't working except to send stuff to myself :(

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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-30 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Robert E.Raymond:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm testing sendmail.

You have my sympathies.

 If you receive this you all know it works.

I'm *so* relieved.

 If you don't, no one but me will know it doesn't work.

Pity, that.

 I'll also know it works, but you're welcome to respond just to confirm that 
 you received it anyway.

Touché.

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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-30 Thread Robert E.Raymond
On Thursday 30 October 2003 20:08, Kurt Wall wrote:
 Quoth Robert E.Raymond:
  Hi all,
 
  I'm testing sendmail.

 You have my sympathies.

  If you receive this you all know it works.

 I'm *so* relieved.

  If you don't, no one but me will know it doesn't work.

 Pity, that.

  I'll also know it works, but you're welcome to respond just to confirm
  that you received it anyway.

 Touché.

 Kurt

But it still doesn't work!

Any ideas?

I followed the SxS to the letter

Do I need my own domain to do it properly?

If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself, I just 
want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't have enough 
FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a 10 MB filesize limit.

TIA

Bob Raymond

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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-30 Thread Jay Nugent
Greetings Bob,

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Robert E.Raymond wrote:

 On Thursday 30 October 2003 20:08, Kurt Wall wrote:
  Quoth Robert E.Raymond:
   Hi all,
  
   I'm testing sendmail.

   ...stuff Bobbettized...

 
 But it still doesn't work!
 
 Any ideas?
 
 I followed the SxS to the letter
 
 Do I need my own domain to do it properly?
 
 If you're wondering why a home user would want sendmail for himself, I just 
 want it so I can send large files by email to people who don't have enough 
 FTP upload accounts, as the Earthlink SMTP server has a 10 MB filesize limit.

   Sendmail ships with its configuration set to ONLY listen to the
loopback device.  You can reconfigure it by simply changing one line (no
need to run m4 and all that crap!).


  vi /etc/sendmail.cf

  Find for the line containing:  DaemonPortOptions

  It will probably look like this:

O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA

  Change it to look like this:

O DaemonPortOptions=Name=MTA

   Stop and start sendmail...


   By not defining any ports in DaemonPortOptions you are telling 
sendmail to listen to ALL interfaces on your machine.  So if you ever 
define alias interfaces on your ethernet, and add additional ethernet 
cards, your sendmail will work automagically with those new interfaces :-)

   Enjoy!

  --- Jay

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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-30 Thread Robert E.Raymond
On Thursday 30 October 2003 11:04, Jay Nugent wrote:
 Greetings Bob,
 
 On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Robert E.Raymond wrote:
 

  On Thursday 30 October 2003 20:08, Kurt Wall wrote:
 
   Quoth Robert E.Raymond:
  
Hi all,
   
I'm testing sendmail.

 
...stuff Bobbettized...

snipped, bobbettized is just plain too sick :P

Sendmail ships with its configuration set to ONLY listen to the
 loopback device.  You can reconfigure it by simply changing one line (no
 need to run m4 and all that crap!).
 
 
   vi /etc/sendmail.cf
 
   Find for the line containing:  DaemonPortOptions
 
   It will probably look like this:
 
 O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA
 
   Change it to look like this:
 
 O DaemonPortOptions=Name=MTA
 
Stop and start sendmail...
 
 
By not defining any ports in DaemonPortOptions you are telling 
 sendmail to listen to ALL interfaces on your machine.  So if you ever 
 define alias interfaces on your ethernet, and add additional ethernet 
 cards, your sendmail will work automagically with those new interfaces :-)
 
Enjoy!
 
   --- Jay

It's already set to that...

O DaemonPortOptions=Name=MTA
O DaemonPortOptions=Port=587, Name=MSA, M=E

I tried commenting out the 2nd line and sending with Sendmail, but I got my 
usual error message in mqueue-

V6
T1067573880
K1067574071
N1
P32378
MDeferred: Connection timed out with smtp.linux-sxs.org.
Fbs

Bob Raymond

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Re: This is just a test

2003-10-30 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Jay Nugent:

[whack]

Sendmail ships with its configuration set to ONLY listen to the
 loopback device.  You can reconfigure it by simply changing one line (no
 need to run m4 and all that crap!).

Well, Red Hat certainly ships Sendmail this way. The default
Slackware Sendmail installation does not do this.

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RE: test message

2003-10-24 Thread Jack Berger
Yes, he is. Always.

-jhb-

-Original Message-
From: Collins Richey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: test message


On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:08:14 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 quoth Kurt Wall:
 | Quoth Keith Morse:
 |  Please ignore.
 |
 | Pardon me? Did you say something? No? I didn't think so.
 
 hey. cut him a break. he's probably married.
 -- 
 dep
 
 Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that 
takes forever.

If a tree falls in the forest with no woman present, is the 
man still at fault?

-- 
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worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.




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Re: test message

2003-10-24 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Collins Richey:
 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:08:14 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  quoth Kurt Wall:
  | Quoth Keith Morse:
  |  Please ignore.
  |
  | Pardon me? Did you say something? No? I didn't think so.
  
  hey. cut him a break. he's probably married.
  -- 
  dep
  
  Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever.
 
 If a tree falls in the forest with no woman present, is the man still at fault?

Of course.

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Re: test message

2003-10-24 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth dep:
 quoth Kurt Wall:
 | Quoth Keith Morse:
 |  Please ignore.
 |
 | Pardon me? Did you say something? No? I didn't think so.
 
 hey. cut him a break. he's probably married.

That explains it! ;-)

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test message

2003-10-23 Thread Keith Morse

Please ignore.
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2003-10-23 Thread Keith Morse

Sorry guys/gals.  Should be the last one for whitelist testing.


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Re: test message

2003-10-23 Thread burns
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 17:35, Keith Morse wrote:
 Please ignore.

Speak louder, I'm ignoring you.

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Re: test message

2003-10-23 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Keith Morse:
 
 Please ignore.

Pardon me? Did you say something? No? I didn't think so.

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Re: test message

2003-10-23 Thread dep
quoth Kurt Wall:
| Quoth Keith Morse:
|  Please ignore.
|
| Pardon me? Did you say something? No? I didn't think so.

hey. cut him a break. he's probably married.
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Re: test message

2003-10-23 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:08:14 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 quoth Kurt Wall:
 | Quoth Keith Morse:
 |  Please ignore.
 |
 | Pardon me? Did you say something? No? I didn't think so.
 
 hey. cut him a break. he's probably married.
 -- 
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If a tree falls in the forest with no woman present, is the man still at fault?

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test

2003-10-19 Thread ronnie gauthier

test 10/19
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Re: test

2003-10-19 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth ronnie gauthier:
 
 test 10/19

Damn, and I forgot to study!

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Re: test

2003-10-19 Thread Tim Wunder
0.526315789

On Sunday 19 October 2003 10:24 pm, someone claiming to be ronnie gauthier 
wrote:
 test 10/19
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Test

2003-10-15 Thread Coppernix
Bonjour,
Pour voir si cela fonctionne.
Désolé du dérangement. ;-)
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Re: test

2003-10-09 Thread James McDonald
ronnie gauthier wrote:

anyone home?
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Just got home but I was at work about 15 mins ago. But glad to be home now.

But did notice about 24 hours ago the list would receive the mails but 
they werent being sent out.

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2003-10-08 Thread ronnie gauthier


anyone home?
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Re: test

2003-10-08 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Home office... That count?

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:32:11 -0500
ronnie gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
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Re: test

2003-10-08 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth ronnie gauthier:
 
 
 anyone home?

No. I'm at work.

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Re: TEST

2003-10-03 Thread James McDonald
burns wrote:

OK, when?

 

LOL sheesh... I think I'll write a bogus request for help next time

something like.

Guys,

I'm tired of Linux and I realize that microsoft has been badly maligned 
and really should be given a second chance.

How do I transfer my data away from Linux accross to my new Windows XP 
installation that is just so much more user friendly.

Yours Sincerely
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Re: TEST

2003-10-03 Thread Tim Wunder
On 10/3/2003 9:22 AM, I believe that James McDonald wrote:
burns wrote:

OK, when?

 

LOL sheesh... I think I'll write a bogus request for help next time

something like.

Guys,

I'm tired of Linux and I realize that microsoft has been badly maligned 
and really should be given a second chance.

How do I transfer my data away from Linux accross to my new Windows XP 
installation that is just so much more user friendly.

Yours Sincerely
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Wasn't there a time when this list required a story if you sent a test 
post? Am I really remembering that, or have I not had enough coffee, yet?

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Re: TEST

2003-10-03 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 23:22:33 +1000
James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 burns wrote:
 
 OK, when?
 
   
 
 LOL sheesh... I think I'll write a bogus request for help next time
 
 something like.
 
 Guys,
 
 I'm tired of Linux and I realize that microsoft has been badly maligned 
 and really should be given a second chance.
 
 How do I transfer my data away from Linux accross to my new Windows XP 
 installation that is just so much more user friendly.
 
 Yours Sincerely
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Can't resist!

Currently you can't access your old data from XP.  Merely wait until your XP is
cracked, and then you won't be able to access anything. grin

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Re: TEST

2003-10-03 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:30:59 -0400
Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/3/2003 9:22 AM, I believe that James McDonald wrote:
  burns wrote:
  
  OK, when?
 
   
 
  LOL sheesh... I think I'll write a bogus request for help next time
  
  something like.
  
  Guys,
  
  I'm tired of Linux and I realize that microsoft has been badly maligned 
  and really should be given a second chance.
  
  How do I transfer my data away from Linux accross to my new Windows XP 
  installation that is just so much more user friendly.
  
  Yours Sincerely
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
 
 Wasn't there a time when this list required a story if you sent a test 
 post? Am I really remembering that, or have I not had enough coffee, yet?
 

Of course.  A bare TEST message (with or without [please] ignore) simply means
reply with wiseass remarks!

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Re: TEST

2003-10-03 Thread Terence McCarthy
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:37:54 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Of course.  A bare TEST message (with or without [please] ignore) simply means
 reply with wiseass remarks!

OK, so when do we get some?


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RE: TEST

2003-10-03 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA

  Of course.  A bare TEST message (with or without [please] ignore) 
  simply means reply with wiseass remarks!
 
 OK, so when do we get some?
 
 
 Terence

That is between you and your SO.


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Re: TEST

2003-10-03 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:02:59 +0100
Terence McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 07:37:54 -0600
 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Of course.  A bare TEST message (with or without [please] ignore) simply
  means reply with wiseass remarks!
 
 OK, so when do we get some?
 

Check the archives.

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Re: TEST

2003-10-03 Thread Terence McCarthy
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:13:40 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Check the archives.
 

Awwh- and I thought I might get something new..

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TEST

2003-10-02 Thread James McDonald


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RE: TEST

2003-10-02 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA


 -Original Message-
 From: James McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 5:41 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: TEST
 
 
 
 
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Re: TEST

2003-10-02 Thread burns

OK, when?

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Re: test

2003-09-26 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth ronnie gauthier:
 
 test 1

echo $?
0

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test

2003-09-07 Thread Marianne Taylor
I have been trying to send messages to the list for two days.  Trying 
another mail program?

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Re: test

2003-09-07 Thread Net Llama!
On 09/07/03 09:00, Marianne Taylor wrote:

I have been trying to send messages to the list for two days.  Trying 
another mail program?
Heard you loud  clear.

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Re: test

2003-09-07 Thread Myles Green
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 09:00:19 -0700, Marianne Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I have been trying to send messages to the list for two days.  Trying 
 another mail program?

You're coming in loud and clear ;o)
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Re: test

2003-09-07 Thread burns
On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 12:00, Marianne Taylor wrote:
 I have been trying to send messages to the list for two days.  Trying 
 another mail program?
A-OK
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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-07 Thread Jean Sagi
ah...

ON my country it called baloto... and it is exactly as you described...

Tom Wilson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 03:22, Jean Sagi wrote:

Lotto? What do you mean?... Baloto perhaps...

Chucho!


Here in America, many states have what they call a Lotto.  What happens
is you go to a local convenience store and purchase a Lotto ticket for a
US $1 a ticket.  They usually have 6 numbers on them from 1 to 40 or
so.  Then once a week they draw numbers out of a contraption that has a
bunch of numbered ping pong balls in it and you hope that the six you
picked (or had randomly generated) on your ticket are the same six that
pop up out of the ball machine.  Is so you win the jackpot of generally
some tens to hundreds of millions of dollars.  

Most people don't win.  Thus you have to pretty lucky if you do. 

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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-05 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Kurt Wall wrote:
Quoth Klaus-Peter Schrage:

Tom Wilson wrote:

Here in America, many states have what they call a Lotto.  What happens
is you go to a local convenience store and purchase a Lotto ticket for a
US $1 a ticket.  They usually have 6 numbers on them from 1 to 40 or
so.  Then once a week they draw numbers out of a contraption that has a
bunch of numbered ping pong balls in it and you hope that the six you
picked (or had randomly generated) on your ticket are the same six that
pop up out of the ball machine.  Is so you win the jackpot of generally
some tens to hundreds of millions of dollars.  

Most people don't win.  Thus you have to pretty lucky if you do. 

The chances of winning aren't that bad: 1:3838380


Mm, my statistics is a little rusty, but wouldn't the chances be rather
worse? Order matters, so we want permutations, not combinations. So,
40_P_6 = 40!/(40 - 6)! = 40!/34! = 2,763,633,000
40_C_6 = 40!/(6! * (40 - 6)!) = 40!/(6! * 34!) = 3,838,380
I don't know about the details of the American lotto system, but 
according to Tom's description it seems to be similar to our's (apart 
from us having numbers from 1 to 49). Thus, order doesn't matter: a 
sequence of drawings of ping pong balls like 2, 4, 39, 5, 40, 9 yields 
the same result as 40, 2, 39, 5, 9, 4 or any other permution. So, it's 
combinations.
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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-05 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth ronnie gauthier:
 6 out of 40 if they must be picked in order drawn(if number drawn is removed)
 40*39*38*36*35*34
 else if not removed
 40*40*40*40*40*40
 
 any 6 out of 40(removed)
 40*39*38*36*35*34
 -
 6*5*4*3*2*1
 
 6 out of 40(removed) with 25 powerballs
 40*39*38*36*35*34
 - *25
 6*5*4*3*2*1
 
 so what you have in one form or another
  n!
    *Pb
 n! (n-k)!

Right. So it is combinations, rather than permutations. That said,
the odds aren't bad at roughly 1:4 million, but still not great.

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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-04 Thread Jean Sagi
Lotto? What do you mean?... Baloto perhaps...

Chucho!

Collins Richey wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 12:33:43 -0500
Jean Sagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am receiving email now from the list.



Congratulations.  Now you may want to try your luck with Lotto!

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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-04 Thread Tom Wilson
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 03:22, Jean Sagi wrote:
 Lotto? What do you mean?... Baloto perhaps...
 
 Chucho!

Here in America, many states have what they call a Lotto.  What happens
is you go to a local convenience store and purchase a Lotto ticket for a
US $1 a ticket.  They usually have 6 numbers on them from 1 to 40 or
so.  Then once a week they draw numbers out of a contraption that has a
bunch of numbered ping pong balls in it and you hope that the six you
picked (or had randomly generated) on your ticket are the same six that
pop up out of the ball machine.  Is so you win the jackpot of generally
some tens to hundreds of millions of dollars.  

Most people don't win.  Thus you have to pretty lucky if you do. 

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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-04 Thread Net Llama!
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Tom Wilson wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 03:22, Jean Sagi wrote:
  Lotto? What do you mean?... Baloto perhaps...
 
  Chucho!

 Here in America, many states have what they call a Lotto.  What happens
 is you go to a local convenience store and purchase a Lotto ticket for a
 US $1 a ticket.  They usually have 6 numbers on them from 1 to 40 or
 so.  Then once a week they draw numbers out of a contraption that has a
 bunch of numbered ping pong balls in it and you hope that the six you
 picked (or had randomly generated) on your ticket are the same six that
 pop up out of the ball machine.  Is so you win the jackpot of generally
 some tens to hundreds of millions of dollars.

 Most people don't win.  Thus you have to pretty lucky if you do.

As someone once said, the Lottery is a tax on the mathematically ignorant.

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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-04 Thread Tim Wunder
On 9/4/2003 9:29 AM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote:

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Tom Wilson wrote:

On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 03:22, Jean Sagi wrote:

Lotto? What do you mean?... Baloto perhaps...

snip

Most people don't win.  Thus you have to pretty lucky if you do.


As someone once said, the Lottery is a tax on the mathematically ignorant.

Ahh... but I *like* lotteries! Only the people who *want* to be taxed 
are taxed. I think *all* g'ment revenue should be generated via 
lotteries. That way, I'd never have to pay taxes...

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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-04 Thread Myles Green
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 07:39, Tim Wunder wrote:
 On 9/4/2003 9:29 AM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote:
 
  On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Tom Wilson wrote:
  
 On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 03:22, Jean Sagi wrote:
 
 Lotto? What do you mean?... Baloto perhaps...
 
 snip
 
 Most people don't win.  Thus you have to pretty lucky if you do.
  
  
  As someone once said, the Lottery is a tax on the mathematically ignorant.
  
 
 Ahh... but I *like* lotteries! Only the people who *want* to be taxed 
 are taxed. I think *all* g'ment revenue should be generated via 
 lotteries. That way, I'd never have to pay taxes...
 

LOL I'll drin^H^H^H ... agree with you on that concept!

Hey G-(wo)men!! You listening??

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RE: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-04 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
Tom Wilson wrote:
 Here in America, many states have what they call a Lotto.  What
 happens is you go to a local convenience store and purchase a Lotto
 ticket for a US $1 a ticket.  They usually have 6 numbers on them
 from 1 to 40 or so.  Then once a week they draw numbers out of a
 contraption that has a bunch of numbered ping pong balls in it and
 you hope that the six you picked (or had randomly generated) on your
 ticket are the same six that pop up out of the ball machine.  Is so
 you win the jackpot of generally some tens to hundreds of millions of
 dollars. 
 
 Most people don't win.  Thus you have to pretty lucky if you do.

In some places this is called the Optimist's Tax.


Tom  :-})

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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-04 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Tom Wilson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 03:22, Jean Sagi wrote:

Lotto? What do you mean?... Baloto perhaps...

Chucho!


Here in America, many states have what they call a Lotto.  What happens
is you go to a local convenience store and purchase a Lotto ticket for a
US $1 a ticket.  They usually have 6 numbers on them from 1 to 40 or
so.  Then once a week they draw numbers out of a contraption that has a
bunch of numbered ping pong balls in it and you hope that the six you
picked (or had randomly generated) on your ticket are the same six that
pop up out of the ball machine.  Is so you win the jackpot of generally
some tens to hundreds of millions of dollars.  

Most people don't win.  Thus you have to pretty lucky if you do. 

The chances of winning aren't that bad: 1:3838380
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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-04 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Net Llama!:
 On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Tom Wilson wrote:
  On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 03:22, Jean Sagi wrote:
   Lotto? What do you mean?... Baloto perhaps...
  
   Chucho!
 
  Here in America, many states have what they call a Lotto.  What happens
  is you go to a local convenience store and purchase a Lotto ticket for a
  US $1 a ticket.  They usually have 6 numbers on them from 1 to 40 or
  so.  Then once a week they draw numbers out of a contraption that has a
  bunch of numbered ping pong balls in it and you hope that the six you
  picked (or had randomly generated) on your ticket are the same six that
  pop up out of the ball machine.  Is so you win the jackpot of generally
  some tens to hundreds of millions of dollars.
 
  Most people don't win.  Thus you have to pretty lucky if you do.
 
 As someone once said, the Lottery is a tax on the mathematically ignorant.

Right. The Optimists' Tax. That said, if I actually won the Powerball
Lottery (I don't play, so I won't win), you could call me mathematically
ignorant all you want.

But, as I said, I hardly every buy a lottery ticket, so I'm not likely
to win.

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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-04 Thread ronnie gauthier
6 out of 40 if they must be picked in order drawn(if number drawn is removed)
40*39*38*36*35*34
else if not removed
40*40*40*40*40*40

any 6 out of 40(removed)
40*39*38*36*35*34
-
6*5*4*3*2*1

6 out of 40(removed) with 25 powerballs
40*39*38*36*35*34
- *25
6*5*4*3*2*1

so what you have in one form or another
 n!
   *Pb
n! (n-k)!
 

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:54:41 -0400 - Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the
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Re: Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

Quoth Klaus-Peter Schrage:
 Tom Wilson wrote:
 
 Here in America, many states have what they call a Lotto.  What happens
 is you go to a local convenience store and purchase a Lotto ticket for a
 US $1 a ticket.  They usually have 6 numbers on them from 1 to 40 or
 so.  Then once a week they draw numbers out of a contraption that has a
 bunch of numbered ping pong balls in it and you hope that the six you
 picked (or had randomly generated) on your ticket are the same six that
 pop up out of the ball machine.  Is so you win the jackpot of generally
 some tens to hundreds of millions of dollars.  
 
 Most people don't win.  Thus you have to pretty lucky if you do. 
 
 The chances of winning aren't that bad: 1:3838380

Mm, my statistics is a little rusty, but wouldn't the chances be rather
worse? Order matters, so we want permutations, not combinations. So,

40_P_6 = 40!/(40 - 6)! = 40!/34! = 2,763,633,000
40_C_6 = 40!/(6! * (40 - 6)!) = 40!/(6! * 34!) = 3,838,380

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OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-03 Thread Jean Sagi
Test

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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-03 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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 Test

did my hacking work? or did you not receive this email back?
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Re: Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-03 Thread Jean Sagi

I am receiving email now from the list.

Chucho!

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Jean Sagi shocked and awed us all by speaking:
 Test

did my hacking work? or did you not receive this email back?
- -- 
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http://doug.hunley.homeip.net  http://www.linux-sxs.org

I can see your point, but I still think you're full of crap.
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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-03 Thread Collins Richey
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 12:33:43 -0500
Jean Sagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I am receiving email now from the list.
 

Congratulations.  Now you may want to try your luck with Lotto!

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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Shawn Tayler
On 31 Aug 2003 19:44:24 -0400 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] professed:

 Test, over
 -- 
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Your are 559 OM
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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Keith Antoine
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:44 am, burns wrote:
 Test, over

Hell, I did not even know it had begun! Waht was I tested for?

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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread burns
On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 21:41, Keith Antoine wrote:
 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:44 am, burns wrote:
  Test, over
 
 Hell, I did not even know it had begun! Waht was I tested for?
 

sexually transmitted diseases. You failed and now will have to study
much harder for the re-test.
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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth burns:
 Test, over


Ayup.
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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Keith Antoine:
 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:44 am, burns wrote:
  Test, over
 
 Hell, I did not even know it had begun! Waht was I tested for?

If we have to tell you, you failed. :-)

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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Keith Antoine
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:54 pm, burns wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 21:41, Keith Antoine wrote:
  On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:44 am, burns wrote:
   Test, over
 
  Hell, I did not even know it had begun! Waht was I tested for?

 sexually transmitted diseases. You failed and now will have to study
 much harder for the re-test.

Thats no bloody good, I lost the instruction sheet.

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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Terence McCarthy
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:31:00 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thats no bloody good, I lost the instruction sheet.

so what about the hand book?

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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Terence McCarthy:
 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:31:00 +1000
 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thats no bloody good, I lost the instruction sheet.
 
 so what about the hand book?

Woot!

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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Bill Campbell
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003, Keith Antoine wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:54 pm, burns wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 21:41, Keith Antoine wrote:
  On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:44 am, burns wrote:
   Test, over
 
  Hell, I did not even know it had begun! Waht was I tested for?

 sexually transmitted diseases. You failed and now will have to study
 much harder for the re-test.

Thats no bloody good, I lost the instruction sheet.

Put tab A in slot B, Repeat.

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Test

2003-09-01 Thread burns
Test, over
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Re: Test

2003-08-27 Thread Tom Condon
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 21:17, burns carved in granite:
 radio check, over

There are no checks in radio buttons, only in check boxes. 


In Harmony's Way and In A Chord,

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Re: Test

2003-08-27 Thread Terence McCarthy
On 27 Aug 2003 00:17:17 -0400
burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 radio check, over

OK, over
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Re: Test

2003-08-27 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth burns:
 radio check, over

Under. In. Through. Beside.

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Re: Test

2003-08-27 Thread Shawn Tayler

 radio check, over
 -- 
 burns

QSL OM, I read you 5 by 5

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Test

2003-08-27 Thread burns
radio check, over
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Re: Test

2003-08-27 Thread Matt . Carpenter
10-4 buddy.  I gotcha loud-n-cleer!





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test kernel, RHL 8.0 and gcc-3.2

2003-08-21 Thread Tim Wunder
Decided to take a stab at installing the 2.6.0-test3 kernel on my RHL 8.0 
system. I installed the latest modutils RPM, gotten from Rawhide, downloaded 
the kernel source, ran 'make gconfig' and 'make'. But I get the following 
error:
 CC [M]  drivers/block/paride/pd.o
drivers/block/paride/pd.c: In function `pd_init':
drivers/block/paride/pd.c:896: warning: passing arg 1 of `blk_init_queue' from 
incompatible pointer type
drivers/block/paride/pd.c:896: warning: passing arg 2 of `blk_init_queue' from 
incompatible pointer type
drivers/block/paride/pd.c:896: too many arguments to function `blk_init_queue'
make[2]: *** [drivers/block/paride/pd.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [drivers/block/paride] Error 2
make: *** [drivers] Error 2

Think this is a gcc problem, or am I doing something wrong?
My kernel config file can be found here:
http://www.thewunders.org/files/TestConfig1

Thanks, 
Tim

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Re: test kernel, RHL 8.0 and gcc-3.2

2003-08-21 Thread Tim Wunder
Turned off PARIDE and it got further. I'm now playing with other options 
trying to get a good build. Will post back if I come across one I can't get 
around.
Thanks for listening...

Tim

On Thursday 21 August 2003 10:11 am, someone claiming to be Tim Wunder wrote:
 Decided to take a stab at installing the 2.6.0-test3 kernel on my RHL 8.0
 system. I installed the latest modutils RPM, gotten from Rawhide,
 downloaded the kernel source, ran 'make gconfig' and 'make'. But I get the
 following error:
snip

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Re: test kernel, RHL 8.0 and gcc-3.2

2003-08-21 Thread Tim Wunder
WooHoo! Success! (well, almost)
I've booted to the new test kernel. Can't really notice a difference, yet, 
'cept for sound not working :-(. It doesn't look like the sound module got 
loaded. Oh well, I'm getting there
Took me only 9 iterations of make gconfig ;-)
If anybody knows how to get the emu10k1 module loaded (I have a SoundBlaster 
Live!), I wouldn't mind pointers... I'm trying to use the ALSA soundsystem. 
My RHL 8.0 stock install uses OSS.
Well, off for now... gotta go apply an icepack...

Tim

On Thursday 21 August 2003 10:41 am, someone claiming to be Tim Wunder wrote:
 Turned off PARIDE and it got further. I'm now playing with other options
 trying to get a good build. Will post back if I come across one I can't get
 around.
 Thanks for listening...

 Tim

 On Thursday 21 August 2003 10:11 am, someone claiming to be Tim Wunder 
wrote:
  Decided to take a stab at installing the 2.6.0-test3 kernel on my RHL 8.0
  system. I installed the latest modutils RPM, gotten from Rawhide,
  downloaded the kernel source, ran 'make gconfig' and 'make'. But I get
  the following error:

 snip

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[OT] Geek Test

2003-08-14 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA

In case some of you haven't found it yet:

http://www.innergeek.us/geek.html


In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,

Tom  :-})

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Re: [OT] Geek Test

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Woh!  How can any geeks ever finish that!?

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:10:38 -0700
Condon Thomas A KPWA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In case some of you haven't found it yet:
 
 http://www.innergeek.us/geek.html
 
 
 In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord,
 
 Tom  :-})
 
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Re: Redhat releases unofficial 2.60-test kernel RPMs

2003-07-20 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:58:14 -0400
Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 19 July 2003 18:57 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
  On Saturday 19 July 2003 01:03 am, Net Llama! wrote:
   On 07/19/03 11:22, Keith Antoine wrote:
On Friday 18 July 2003 07:17 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
   These are for RH9  Rawhide:
   http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/
   
   I've not tested them, but plan to.
   
Wonder whether they will work on mandrakeor have they forked too
much.
  
   They'd prolly work in so much as you can boot with them, but
   whether they work well is another story.  You've got little to
   loose by trying though, as long as you keep a known good kernel. 
   But, Keith, you alreay knew that part, you taught it to me a few
   years ago  :)
 
  I am trying to remember with rpm and kernels whether it overwrites
  the old or just installs the new one seperately. actually I am still
  tossing up about doing my own compile as I still do not trust rpm's.
 
 I compiled my own 2.6 kernel from kernel.org and had a lot of compile 
 errors.  Finally got the options right where it would compile.
 
 But when I booted...  one new 'feechur' seems to be that the running 
 messages of all the things it is doing during boot no longer is 
 standard..  it just said it was booting and that was that.   It
 finally hung somewhere in the process and I haven't taken the time to
 figure out how to get to the dmesg (or whatever) list of messages 
 to see what it had a problem with.
 

The most likely feechur is the £$%! decision in 2.6 to make
VGA_CONSOLE, etc., off by default.  Your boot will complete, but your
have no way of knowing it.  Auf gut Deutsch heisst das: beschissen!

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Re: Redhat releases unofficial 2.60-test kernel RPMs

2003-07-20 Thread David A. Bandel
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:53:36 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
 
 The most likely feechur is the £$%! decision in 2.6 to make
 VGA_CONSOLE, etc., off by default.  Your boot will complete, but your
 have no way of knowing it.  Auf gut Deutsch heisst das: beschissen!

Liked that gotcha, did ya?  You must:
compile into the kernel (not as a module):
Input Device Support -- Input Devices (says nothing about VTs, but read
that there)
Character Devices -- Virtual Terminal (won't be present if the above
isn't enabled)


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Re: Redhat releases unofficial 2.60-test kernel RPMs

2003-07-20 Thread Collins Richey
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 18:01:38 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:53:36 -0600
 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [snip]
  
  The most likely feechur is the £$%! decision in 2.6 to make
  VGA_CONSOLE, etc., off by default.  Your boot will complete, but
  your have no way of knowing it.  Auf gut Deutsch heisst das:
  beschissen!
 
 Liked that gotcha, did ya?  You must:
 compile into the kernel (not as a module):
 Input Device Support -- Input Devices (says nothing about VTs, but
 read that there)
 Character Devices -- Virtual Terminal (won't be present if the above
 isn't enabled)
 

Yeah, another gotchas that I don't like:  The developers have
gone to great lengths to merge in alsa and officially deprecate the OSS
functions, but the alsa module of the same name won't work with my sound
card!  I haven't tried yet with the deprecated OSS stuff, since I
have no burning need to leave the 2.4.x kernels. 

Other than that, 2.5/2.6 seemed pretty ho hum on my system, which is
pretty good for a development kernel.


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Re: Redhat releases unofficial 2.60-test kernel RPMs

2003-07-19 Thread Keith Antoine
On Saturday 19 July 2003 01:03 am, Net Llama! wrote:
 On 07/19/03 11:22, Keith Antoine wrote:
  On Friday 18 July 2003 07:17 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
 These are for RH9  Rawhide:
 http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/
 
 I've not tested them, but plan to.
 
  Wonder whether they will work on mandrakeor have they forked too much.

 They'd prolly work in so much as you can boot with them, but whether they
 work well is another story.  You've got little to loose by trying though,
 as long as you keep a known good kernel.  But, Keith, you alreay knew that
 part, you taught it to me a few years ago  :)

I am trying to remember with rpm and kernels whether it overwrites the old or 
just installs the new one seperately. actually I am still tossing up about 
doing my own compile as I still do not trust rpm's.

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Re: Redhat releases unofficial 2.60-test kernel RPMs

2003-07-19 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/19/03 15:57, Keith Antoine wrote:

On Saturday 19 July 2003 01:03 am, Net Llama! wrote:

On 07/19/03 11:22, Keith Antoine wrote:

On Friday 18 July 2003 07:17 pm, Net Llama! wrote:

These are for RH9  Rawhide:
http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/
I've not tested them, but plan to.
Wonder whether they will work on mandrakeor have they forked too much.
They'd prolly work in so much as you can boot with them, but whether they
work well is another story.  You've got little to loose by trying though,
as long as you keep a known good kernel.  But, Keith, you alreay knew that
part, you taught it to me a few years ago  :)


I am trying to remember with rpm and kernels whether it overwrites the old or 
just installs the new one seperately. actually I am still tossing up about 
doing my own compile as I still do not trust rpm's.
If you 'rpm -ivh ...' then it won't overwrite anything.  But i agree, i 
don't trust RPMs for kernels.

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Re: Redhat releases unofficial 2.60-test kernel RPMs

2003-07-19 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Saturday 19 July 2003 18:57 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
 On Saturday 19 July 2003 01:03 am, Net Llama! wrote:
  On 07/19/03 11:22, Keith Antoine wrote:
   On Friday 18 July 2003 07:17 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
  These are for RH9  Rawhide:
  http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/
  
  I've not tested them, but plan to.
  
   Wonder whether they will work on mandrakeor have they forked too
   much.
 
  They'd prolly work in so much as you can boot with them, but whether
  they work well is another story.  You've got little to loose by
  trying though, as long as you keep a known good kernel.  But, Keith,
  you alreay knew that part, you taught it to me a few years ago  :)

 I am trying to remember with rpm and kernels whether it overwrites the
 old or just installs the new one seperately. actually I am still
 tossing up about doing my own compile as I still do not trust rpm's.

I compiled my own 2.6 kernel from kernel.org and had a lot of compile 
errors.  Finally got the options right where it would compile.

But when I booted...  one new 'feechur' seems to be that the running 
messages of all the things it is doing during boot no longer is 
standard..  it just said it was booting and that was that.   It finally 
hung somewhere in the process and I haven't taken the time to figure out 
how to get to the dmesg (or whatever) list of messages  to see what 
it had a problem with.



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Redhat releases unofficial 2.60-test kernel RPMs

2003-07-18 Thread Net Llama!
These are for RH9  Rawhide:
http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/
I've not tested them, but plan to.

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Re: Redhat releases unofficial 2.60-test kernel RPMs

2003-07-18 Thread Keith Antoine
On Friday 18 July 2003 07:17 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
 These are for RH9  Rawhide:
 http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/

 I've not tested them, but plan to.

Wonder whether they will work on mandrakeor have they forked too much.

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Re: Redhat releases unofficial 2.60-test kernel RPMs

2003-07-18 Thread Net Llama!
On 07/19/03 11:22, Keith Antoine wrote:
On Friday 18 July 2003 07:17 pm, Net Llama! wrote:

These are for RH9  Rawhide:
http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/
I've not tested them, but plan to.


Wonder whether they will work on mandrakeor have they forked too much.
They'd prolly work in so much as you can boot with them, but whether they 
work well is another story.  You've got little to loose by trying though, 
as long as you keep a known good kernel.  But, Keith, you alreay knew that 
part, you taught it to me a few years ago  :)

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Squirrel Mail Test

2003-06-22 Thread James McDonald
Please ignore and delete
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test- ignore

2003-01-18 Thread Wade Barocsi
test.- sorry
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Re: test- ignore

2003-01-18 Thread Tom Jandl
On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 19:10, Wade Barocsi wrote:
 test.- sorry
 wade

Thats OK, at least I know the list  my ISP are still up.
Been way quiet today.

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