HD question
list My laptop system has gone down while I was using it. When I tried to get it to reboot, it stuck in grub. I used the gentoo live cd to boot from a cdrom and that was successfull. when I tried to mount the /dev/hda3 to root system I got 5 lines of errors, seek could not find etc. I install a 860 meg hd into the system and dos boots right on up and I can play a dos card game. It sounds as if the hd that I was using, the original one, has gone bad. I did take it back to the Dell refurb center where I bought it, after a week they charged me $76 to diagnose that the mobo was bad. They want $175 or that and a install charge of $50. I checked around and find the mobo's cost $125 - $130. Guess they see people as idots whom they can fleece. Not me. Guess I will go look for a new hd for my laptop. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HD question
What makes you so sure that the HD is bad? Can you put it into a different box and mount any of the partitions? On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Rick Sivernell wrote: list My laptop system has gone down while I was using it. When I tried to get it to reboot, it stuck in grub. I used the gentoo live cd to boot from a cdrom and that was successfull. when I tried to mount the /dev/hda3 to root system I got 5 lines of errors, seek could not find etc. I install a 860 meg hd into the system and dos boots right on up and I can play a dos card game. It sounds as if the hd that I was using, the original one, has gone bad. I did take it back to the Dell refurb center where I bought it, after a week they charged me $76 to diagnose that the mobo was bad. They want $175 or that and a install charge of $50. I checked around and find the mobo's cost $125 - $130. Guess they see people as idots whom they can fleece. Not me. Guess I will go look for a new hd for my laptop. cheers -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HD question
Lonnie You do have a point here, I did try a 2nd hd on the laptop, it worked as it should, it was a small drive. The original will not boot, but fdisk can read the partition. grub will start then hang. Can not put this drive in to older laptop as it has a 1 g limit. I would like to test it on a machine that could boot it up. I just have no means to perform this. Any other suggestions here is appreciated, I do not want to buy any thing I do not have to. It is a 12 g hard drive, Fitsitu I beleive. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HD question
On Thursday 20 November 2003 04:21 pm, Rick Sivernell wrote: Lonnie You do have a point here, I did try a 2nd hd on the laptop, it worked as it should, it was a small drive. The original will not boot, but fdisk can read the partition. grub will start then hang. Can not put this drive in to older laptop as it has a 1 g limit. I would like to test it on a machine that could boot it up. I just have no means to perform this. Any other suggestions here is appreciated, I do not want to buy any thing I do not have to. It is a 12 g hard drive, Fitsitu I beleive. cheers 2.5 to 3.5 HDD adapter kits are available to connect laptop hard drives to desktop PC's. If you depend upon laptops, it might not be a bad thing to keep on hand. IIRC, I saw one for about $10. Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HD question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:21:27 -0600 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lonnie You do have a point here, I did try a 2nd hd on the laptop, it worked as it should, it was a small drive. The original will not boot, but fdisk can read the partition. grub will start then hang. Can not put this drive in to older laptop as it has a 1 g limit. I would like to test it on a machine that could boot it up. I just have no means to perform this. Any other suggestions here is appreciated, I do not want to buy any thing I do not have to. It is a 12 g hard drive, Fitsitu I beleive. There is a small connector you can buy that will allow you to connect that hard drive to your IDE connector and power connector on a desktop. They're sold (for a coupla quid) as connectors for Flash drives. I've made extensive use of mine. Well worth the money (which isn't much, shipping will cost more). David- - -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/vUT/j31PLQNUbV4RAqRSAJ9OktV91jKG1R0sm9MYEZAqwCfWwgCgwNv3 WRsCoaQLM+EIAhYLy14BkRQ= =+HNI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HD question
On 11/20/03 14:21, Rick Sivernell wrote: Lonnie You do have a point here, I did try a 2nd hd on the laptop, it worked as it should, it was a small drive. The original will not boot, but fdisk can read the partition. grub will start then hang. Can not put this drive in to older laptop as it has a 1 g limit. I would like to test it on a machine that could boot it up. I just have no means to perform this. Any other suggestions here is appreciated, I do not want to buy any thing I do not have to. It is a 12 g hard drive, Fitsitu I beleive. Is the drive still under warranty? If so, you should be able to get an RMA at no charge. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:00pm up 1 day, 22:24, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.04, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HD question
Lonnie I do not know if it is under warrenty. I will check that, should have already thunk it, just getting like skippy hereg, just wish I was just as pretty. no reply required. David Andrew will also check that out, I do have a couple of small older 2.5s here. Many thanks, Doggnabbit, I like this list. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HD question
On Thursday 20 November 2003 09:22 pm, Rick Sivernell wrote: Lonnie I do not know if it is under warrenty. I will check that, should have already thunk it, just getting like skippy hereg, just wish I was just as pretty. no reply required. David Andrew will also check that out, I do have a couple of small older 2.5s here. Many thanks, Doggnabbit, I like this list. cheers Here's a link to Outpost.com's (Frye's Electronics) adapter for $6.99: http://shop4.outpost.com/product/2066996 Maybe one of the Frye's in the Dallas area will carry it. (Stopping at the Frye's at Interstate 20 and Matlock adds at least 60-90 minutes to my travel time between Longview and San Angelo.) Andrew Gould ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StarOffice 7 user question
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:35:23 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried to time the starts on three machines. The older version of Star Office (6.0) let me count to 15 (one one thousand, two one thousand, etc) before it was started on a 1 gig duron with 256meg. SO 5.2 on an .8 gig Athlon and 770 megs took so long I thought it wasn't going to start (got to over 20 counting before I gave up counting, but it finally started, maybe in 25 secs.) On a 1 gig duron with 650megs SO 7.0 started up by the time I got to 5. So, startup time is reduced by 66% in my tests, which I consider official and final. I can't compare SO 6 and SO 7 on the same machine because SO 7 removed SO 6 when it was installed. The improvements are similar with OO. I run an AthlonXP 1800+ with 512M. Earlier versions of OO took 20+ seconds to initialize. OO 1.1.0 takes 5.5 seconds on initial startup, 3.5 seconds on subsequent startups. On prior versions, there was a substantial difference between source-compiled code (10+ hours and 5 Gig temporary space, ouch) and binary code from OO, but this is less noticeable now that OO has cleaned up their code. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StarOffice 7 user question
On SuSE, I have been using the OO pre-loader, or whatever it is called. It does make loading faster. Odd that this seems not to be part of the SO 7 offering from Sun. At least not as an accessible item, as it is with OO. On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:42:01 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The improvements are similar with OO. I run an AthlonXP 1800+ with 512M. Earlier versions of OO took 20+ seconds to initialize. OO 1.1.0 takes 5.5 seconds on initial startup, 3.5 seconds on subsequent startups. On prior versions, there was a substantial difference between source-compiled code (10+ hours and 5 Gig temporary space, ouch) and binary code from OO, but this is less noticeable now that OO has cleaned up their code. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StarOffice 7 user question
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:35:23 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried to time the starts on three machines. The older version of Star Office (6.0) let me count to 15 (one one thousand, two one thousand, etc) before it was started on a 1 gig duron with 256meg. SO 5.2 on an .8 gig Athlon and 770 megs took so long I thought it wasn't going to start (got to over 20 counting before I gave up counting, but it finally started, maybe in 25 secs.) On a 1 gig duron with 650megs SO 7.0 started up by the time I got to 5. So, startup time is reduced by 66% in my tests, which I consider official and final. I can't compare SO 6 and SO 7 on the same machine because SO 7 removed SO 6 when it was installed. So each machine was a different one? I see that you have more RAM than my machine. Perhaps this is the problem. This is embarrassing, but I don't recall if the machine has 256 or 512 MB. I will check. Still, it has tons of swap. But if it is using that, it takes time. Are these running KDE or GNOME or some other that perhaps leaves more RAM for other apps? -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Network question
Hmmm, OK well I to take care of the occassional laptop I would install dhcpd on one of the linux/Unix boxes and configure a small 192.168.x.x DHCP scope to hand out an IP address when needed. If you have the occassional Windows box then you will be needing samba at some point. Installing samba is easy, if using a package based linux and configuration is trivial because it comes with SWAT a web based configuration utility. Just install samba-server and swat on the *nix box, then point you browser to http://localhost:901 You could also use ftp for file sharing between boxes by installing wu-ftpd or vs-ftpd or similar. NFS is not something I have had a lot to do with so I will let others comment on it. If you could let us know which version of Linux you have then we can advise how to test for the correct software. If you have a rpm based distribution (redhat mandrake etc) then doing rpm -qa | grep -i insert_search_word_here will show you what you have installed . hope this helps I've had UNIX and/or Linux at home for a very long time, but always just one or two independent machines that didn't need to share anything. Then I broke down and got printer sharing working. Now I think I really need to share files. The question: What's easiest to set up? I have a 3-computer network (4 counting an occasional laptop), and I mostly want to do backups over the net by having the old clunky machine with the CD-RW directly copying files. It would be easiest if the subject machine didn't have to get too involved, and I'm not much worried about consistency here. I'm mostly worried about fire and/or dying disk drives, so a little bit of inconsistency is the least of my worries. There are several 36-GB drives involved, but the actual backup traffic will be lots smaller than that. So I'm thinking NFS or perhaps Samba. I'm not using Windoze much, but it does show up from time to time. So: where do I get information? How do I tell if the software's already on my machine? What solutions should I consider? ++ kevin -- Dr. Kevin O'Gorman (805) 756-2986 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~kogorman ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton NSW Australia ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
StarOffice 7 user question
StarOffice 7 user question: I am curious about the quicker startup time for StarOffice 7. I am not convinced mine is really faster than OpenOffice 1.1. Maybe this is how it should be. When your StarOffice 7 starts, you get the little startup box with a progress bar. On mine, the window shows up reasonably quick. The progress bar zips to just about the middle almost instantly. However, at this midpoint location it stops for some seconds. Then it pops to the end almost instantly. Is this how it acts on other systems? I may just be expecting too much. I wonder if this is different if you have a faster hard disk, as I think lots of the startup time is reading in files. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StarOffice 7 user question
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 4:27 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: StarOffice 7 user question: I am curious about the quicker startup time for StarOffice 7. I am not convinced mine is really faster than OpenOffice 1.1. Maybe this is how it should be. When your StarOffice 7 starts, you get the little startup box with a progress bar. On mine, the window shows up reasonably quick. The progress bar zips to just about the middle almost instantly. However, at this midpoint location it stops for some seconds. Then it pops to the end almost instantly. Is this how it acts on other systems? I may just be expecting too much. I wonder if this is different if you have a faster hard disk, as I think lots of the startup time is reading in files. I get the same results here on an Athlon 800mhz with SCSI drives... And I don't think it really is starting any faster than StarOffice 6.0 did. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 11/12/03 07:08 + ++ Hansen's Library Axiom: The closest library doesn't have the material you need. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apt question
Did you do an apt-get update before the apt-get upgrade after you changed you sources.list file? If you didn't, apt is still hitting the sid repository instead of the experimental. Yes, thankfully I've got the whole update/upgrade thing figured out. It turned out that what I really needed was to pick a different mirror. The one I was using was not up-to-date. I now have XFree86 4.3 and all's well. Thanks much, -Aaron ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StarOffice 7 user question
I just tried to time the starts on three machines. The older version of Star Office (6.0) let me count to 15 (one one thousand, two one thousand, etc) before it was started on a 1 gig duron with 256meg. SO 5.2 on an .8 gig Athlon and 770 megs took so long I thought it wasn't going to start (got to over 20 counting before I gave up counting, but it finally started, maybe in 25 secs.) On a 1 gig duron with 650megs SO 7.0 started up by the time I got to 5. So, startup time is reduced by 66% in my tests, which I consider official and final. I can't compare SO 6 and SO 7 on the same machine because SO 7 removed SO 6 when it was installed. Joel On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 07:10:06AM -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 4:27 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: StarOffice 7 user question: I am curious about the quicker startup time for StarOffice 7. I am not convinced mine is really faster than OpenOffice 1.1. Maybe this is how it should be. When your StarOffice 7 starts, you get the little startup box with a progress bar. On mine, the window shows up reasonably quick. The progress bar zips to just about the middle almost instantly. However, at this midpoint location it stops for some seconds. Then it pops to the end almost instantly. Is this how it acts on other systems? I may just be expecting too much. I wonder if this is different if you have a faster hard disk, as I think lots of the startup time is reading in files. I get the same results here on an Athlon 800mhz with SCSI drives... And I don't think it really is starting any faster than StarOffice 6.0 did. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 11/12/03 07:08 + ++ Hansen's Library Axiom: The closest library doesn't have the material you need. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Network question
I've had UNIX and/or Linux at home for a very long time, but always just one or two independent machines that didn't need to share anything. Then I broke down and got printer sharing working. Now I think I really need to share files. The question: What's easiest to set up? I have a 3-computer network (4 counting an occasional laptop), and I mostly want to do backups over the net by having the old clunky machine with the CD-RW directly copying files. It would be easiest if the subject machine didn't have to get too involved, and I'm not much worried about consistency here. I'm mostly worried about fire and/or dying disk drives, so a little bit of inconsistency is the least of my worries. There are several 36-GB drives involved, but the actual backup traffic will be lots smaller than that. So I'm thinking NFS or perhaps Samba. I'm not using Windoze much, but it does show up from time to time. So: where do I get information? How do I tell if the software's already on my machine? What solutions should I consider? ++ kevin -- Dr. Kevin O'Gorman (805) 756-2986 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~kogorman ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: RPM question
On 11/6/2003 11:08 AM, I believe that Tim Wunder wrote: In an effort to eventually upgrade my system from RHL 8.0 to Fedora Core 1, I'd like to determine what rpms are installed that are not part of the origianl RH 8.0 or any of its updates. Essentially, this would be any rpm I have installed that doesn't have Red Hat, Inc. as its Packager. I'm hoping that this can be done using the output from 'rpm -qai' and piping it thru grep somehow. Any ideas? Well, giving up on my extremely limited bash and rpm command line skills, I ended up using synaptic, which has a lovely GUI search tool. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Apt question
Hmm, I wonder how many Debian types we have on this list. There must be some, I'm sure. I'm working on getting Debian going on my workstation. Thus far I've installed Woody and upgraded to Sid. I'm running into trouble with one thing, though. The version of XFree86 in Sid is still too old to support my Radeon 7500. I need 4.3. There are supposed to be packages for 4.3 in experimental, but I can't seem to get apt to see them. I didn't have this issue upgrading to Sid, so I'm not sure what I've goofed. My sources.list looks like this: deb http://http.us.debian.org/ debian/project/experimental/main/binary-i386/ deb http://http.us.debian.org/ debian/project/experimental/contrib/binary-i386/ deb http://http.us.debian.org/ debian/project/experimental/non-free/binary-i386/ deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/ debian/project/experimental/main/source/ deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/ debian/project/experimental/contrib/source/ deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/ debian/project/experimental/non-free/source/ #deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib #deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib #deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free #deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free #deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free I commented out the Sid stuff to see if I could force it to use the experimental stuff, but when I run apt-get upgrade it says: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. I went into http://http.us.debian.org/debian/project/experimental/main/binary-i386/Packa ges to make sure the packages for 4.3 were listed there. They are. So how do I get APT to recognize them? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Apt question
On Monday 10 November 2003 03:18 pm, Aaron Grewell's voice rose above the ones in my head and stated: [snips of sources file] I commented out the Sid stuff to see if I could force it to use the experimental stuff, but when I run apt-get upgrade it says: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. I went into http://http.us.debian.org/debian/project/experimental/main/binary-i38 6/Packa ges to make sure the packages for 4.3 were listed there. They are. So how do I get APT to recognize them? Did you do an apt-get update before the apt-get upgrade after you changed you sources.list file? If you didn't, apt is still hitting the sid repository instead of the experimental. -- Tom Wilson Reg. Linux user# 199331 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Javascript question
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:36:57 -0500 joel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going over some of my html/javascript beasties that I wrote for work. I am still confounded why these don't work properly in netscape or mozilla but do in opera6 and IE 5.5. Have you run it in Mozilla with the Javascript debugger open? I had one last week that worked in Netscape, Konqueror, and Mozilla, but failed in IE. Turned out that IE has a limit of 1012 characters in a function call. -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Javascript question
I am going over some of my html/javascript beasties that I wrote for
work. I am still confounded why these don't work properly in netscape or
mozilla but do in opera6 and IE 5.5.
For example, these buttons don't display properly in mozilla:
input type=button value=Reset this form onClick=ClearForm(form1)
Then, mozilla doesn't handle arrays, for example, this function doesn't
work:
function ClearForm(form){
for (i=0; i form.length ; i++) {
form[i].checked = false
if (form[i].value.search(/^MARGINS *\$1U? *$/) -1){form[i].checked=true}
par[i] = }
form[1].checked = true
}
Any insight appreciated,
Joel
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Re: Javascript question
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 18:36, joel wrote:
I am going over some of my html/javascript beasties that I wrote for
work. I am still confounded why these don't work properly in netscape or
mozilla but do in opera6 and IE 5.5.
For example, these buttons don't display properly in mozilla:
input type=button value=Reset this form onClick=ClearForm(form1)
I copied and pasted that line into a bare html page and it displayed
fine in my Mozilla 1.3.1
Then, mozilla doesn't handle arrays, for example, this function doesn't
work:
function ClearForm(form){
for (i=0; i form.length ; i++) {
form[i].checked = false
if (form[i].value.search(/^MARGINS *\$1U? *$/) -1){form[i].checked=true}
par[i] = }
form[1].checked = true
}
Haven't tried this function in a form (yet), but a line from a function
of mine that does work may give a lead...
for (var Index = 0; Index recipientArray.length; Index ++)
maybe the var is needed?
IanS
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Re: Javascript question
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 18:36, joel wrote:
this function doesn't work:
function ClearForm(form){
for (i=0; i form.length ; i++) {
form[i].checked = false
if (form[i].value.search(/^MARGINS *\$1U? *$/) -1){form[i].checked=true}
par[i] = }
form[1].checked = true
}
To get the function to do anything I had to change
onClick=ClearForm(form1) to onClick=ClearForm(this.form)
Inserting alert()s into your function to follow its operation it seemed
to work up to and including an 'else {alert(else)}' below your 'if'
line. After that the alert()s don't run.
Also an alert() inserted to run if the 'if' is true didn't go, but I'm
sorry to admit that I don't know diddly about regular expressions so
don't know if my form entries met the criteria to make the 'if' true.
Used reg. exp. for the first time a couple of days ago to edit a huge
file in emacs. Definitely gotta learn more of that!
an alert() outside your for loop never goes, so it seems the for loop
doesn't exit? Google couldn't find me anything about that 'par[i] = '
line. What's a par
Oh, and disregard previous post about var. Makes no difference it
seems.
IanS
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Kernel config question
I'm a little hazy on some steps and what they do. I know I need to issue make dep make clean bzImage modules modules_install when I do a new kernel (on a new system). However, if I have an existing system where I just add an option via make menuconfig what steps do I really have to do? I wouldn't think I'd have to reinstall modules. However, if I specify the option I added to be a module I assume I need to do modules AND modules_install? -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Kernel config question
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 22:10:59 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a little hazy on some steps and what they do. I know I need to issue make dep make clean bzImage modules modules_install when I do a new kernel (on a new system). However, if I have an existing system where I just add an option via make menuconfig what steps do I really have to do? I wouldn't think I'd have to reinstall modules. However, if I specify the option I added to be a module I assume I need to do modules AND modules_install? I would recommend you do bzImage modules and modules_install in every case. I confess that I've gotten spoiled on the 2.6 kernels where very little additional work is done if you change a few config parameters and then remake, but I presume the same applies for 2.4 kernels. Let someone else jump in here. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Kernel config question
I am a bit rusty on building kernels but: It all depends on whether or not you configured the kernel or a module. If just a module, you could get by with just compiling the module. Rarely, there is a command for compiling the module in the source for the module. Or, you make just: make dep;make clean;make modules Since I used to have a broken set up, and make modules_install never seemed to work right, I would just move the new module to the proper location by hand, or just load the necessary modules with insmod. If you changed the kernel, then you have got to go through the kernel compile with: make dep;make clean;make bzImage You don't have to recompile the modules if you have not reconfigured any, IMHO. Then, you have to fool around and put the new image where it belongs (in boot) and adjust lilo.conf. Note: I haven't been able to successfully compile a kernel since going with lindows, but, I haven't had to, either. Ease of use usually means too complicated to mess with. Joel On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 08:52:59PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote: On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 22:10:59 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a little hazy on some steps and what they do. I know I need to issue make dep make clean bzImage modules modules_install when I do a new kernel (on a new system). However, if I have an existing system where I just add an option via make menuconfig what steps do I really have to do? I wouldn't think I'd have to reinstall modules. However, if I specify the option I added to be a module I assume I need to do modules AND modules_install? I would recommend you do bzImage modules and modules_install in every case. I confess that I've gotten spoiled on the 2.6 kernels where very little additional work is done if you change a few config parameters and then remake, but I presume the same applies for 2.4 kernels. Let someone else jump in here. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Background question
On Wednesday 05 November 2003 10:54 pm, someone claiming to be Brad De Vries wrote: --- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess this is a bash question, and probly FAQ-ish, but... Say I set a make job to execute in the background with 'make make.log 21 ' and the job then stops to ask for user input, like asking, mv: overwrite `.deps/alarmdaemoniface_stub.Plo', overriding mode 0644? How do I give the user input to the job? Is it possible? Thanks, Tim IIRC, there is a built-in command (i.e., part of your shell, assuming it's sh, ksh, bash, etc.) called fg which brings background jobs to the foreground. Well, apparently, fg PID isn't what's required. After a bit of googling, I came upon the recommendaition to use 'fg %1'; which utimately lead me to the chance to break out of the make. Not what I wanted, but it worked. Thanks, Tim -- RedHat 8.0 Kernel 2.4.20-20.8, KDE 3.1.4, Xfree86 4.2.1 2:35am up 32 days, 5:21, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RPM question
In an effort to eventually upgrade my system from RHL 8.0 to Fedora Core 1, I'd like to determine what rpms are installed that are not part of the origianl RH 8.0 or any of its updates. Essentially, this would be any rpm I have installed that doesn't have Red Hat, Inc. as its Packager. I'm hoping that this can be done using the output from 'rpm -qai' and piping it thru grep somehow. Any ideas? Thanks, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
question
I am having a problem with su - root or to any user being access denied. I have both root and user, me in wheel. I have recently update gentoo. I did lose my passwd and login for user and passwd for root. Able to login to root with no passwd required. Rebuilt /home/user with superadduser. Am I missing something here? cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:37:13 -0600 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having a problem with su - root or to any user being access denied. I have both root and user, me in wheel. I have recently update gentoo. I did lose my passwd and login for user and passwd for root. Able to login to root with no passwd required. Rebuilt /home/user with superadduser. Am I missing something here? The only way that I am aware of that you could lose ability to login is via the update config files (etc-update) process. Some updates will offer to update password and shadow. You should never do this; always purge these update offerings (fstab is another that is a no no). rant I've never considered it a good idea to offer updates for these files, but thus far gentoo has never come up with a replacement philosophy. /rant A good procedure to follow is to backup /etc before doing etc-update. That being said, are there any meaningful messages in /var/log/messages? If you can login as root with no password, you should be able to issue 'passwd' to set a new root password. Maybe this will fix the problem? Another possibility is that there is a problem with some of the files in /etc/pam.d/ - were any of these replaced recently? check /etc/password and /etc/group to verify that the root user is really in group wheel. HTH. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
Collins I feel stupid somethings, in passwd root had root,user changed to root,rick all is good again many thanks cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:13:45 -0600 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins I feel stupid somethings, in passwd root had root,user changed to root,rick all is good again many thanks That's what's great about this group (at least the most recent reincarnation). People usually respond with help instead of making you feel like a dummy. I can't remember how often I've been amazed by my lack of knowledge. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
That's what's great about this group (at least the most recent reincarnation). People usually respond with help instead of making you feel like a dummy. I can't remember how often I've been amazed by my lack of knowledge. I got out of Fitting and Machining because I had seen just about every combination of gear lever and pivot and it was all ho hum. IT is different, it's too broad and too deep for any individual to know everything. So it's nice to have a bunch of people that can bring the least experienced person up to speed. -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton NSW Australia ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:12:32 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:13:45 -0600 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins I feel stupid somethings, in passwd root had root,user changed to root,rick all is good again many thanks That's what's great about this group (at least the most recent reincarnation). People usually respond with help instead of making you feel like a dummy. I can't remember how often I've been amazed by my lack of knowledge. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users I represent that g -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:26:41 +1100 (EST) James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what's great about this group (at least the most recent reincarnation). People usually respond with help instead of making you feel like a dummy. I can't remember how often I've been amazed by my lack of knowledge. I got out of Fitting and Machining because I had seen just about every combination of gear lever and pivot and it was all ho hum. IT is different, it's too broad and too deep for any individual to know everything. So it's nice to have a bunch of people that can bring the least experienced person up to speed. -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton NSW Australia ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users James I know what you mean, imagine trying this on Winders? cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Background question
I guess this is a bash question, and probly FAQ-ish, but... Say I set a make job to execute in the background with 'make make.log 21 ' and the job then stops to ask for user input, like asking, mv: overwrite `.deps/alarmdaemoniface_stub.Plo', overriding mode 0644? How do I give the user input to the job? Is it possible? Thanks, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Background question
--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess this is a bash question, and probly FAQ-ish, but... Say I set a make job to execute in the background with 'make make.log 21 ' and the job then stops to ask for user input, like asking, mv: overwrite `.deps/alarmdaemoniface_stub.Plo', overriding mode 0644? How do I give the user input to the job? Is it possible? Thanks, Tim IIRC, there is a built-in command (i.e., part of your shell, assuming it's sh, ksh, bash, etc.) called fg which brings background jobs to the foreground. Brad. __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Question
On Monday 03 November 2003 04:18 pm, Rick Sivernell's voice rose above the ones in my head and stated: lIST I have a Dell Latitude cpx laptop. I have a pcmcia lan card now running perfectly, but a school they have setup a wireless system. It will auto on systems, my question is leave the lan pcmcia at home and use the wireless at school, what do I need to do to make this work? Can I do this, I assume so. I can get a new netgear wireless for $70.00, is this too much? If they are using encryption you generally need the passphrase or encryption codes to gain access to the wireless network. As far as cards go, I would recommend getting Orinoco. They right around the same price as the Netgear and I've have had good experiences with them. And make sure you get the same 802.11 standard your school is using or a multi standard card (which are more expensive). -- Tom Wilson Reg. Linux user# 199331 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Question
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:07:58 -0500 Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 03 November 2003 04:18 pm, Rick Sivernell's voice rose above the ones in my head and stated: lIST I have a Dell Latitude cpx laptop. I have a pcmcia lan card now running perfectly, but a school they have setup a wireless system. It will auto on systems, my question is leave the lan pcmcia at home and use the wireless at school, what do I need to do to make this work? Can I do this, I assume so. I can get a new netgear wireless for $70.00, is this too much? If they are using encryption you generally need the passphrase or encryption codes to gain access to the wireless network. As far as cards go, I would recommend getting Orinoco. They right around the same price as the Netgear and I've have had good experiences with them. And make sure you get the same 802.11 standard your school is using or a multi standard card (which are more expensive). -- Tom Wilson Reg. Linux user# 199331 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Tom Thanks -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Question
lIST I have a Dell Latitude cpx laptop. I have a pcmcia lan card now running perfectly, but a school they have setup a wireless system. It will auto on systems, my question is leave the lan pcmcia at home and use the wireless at school, what do I need to do to make this work? Can I do this, I assume so. I can get a new netgear wireless for $70.00, is this too much? cheers Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
UUCP question ...
Hello all, I am trying to use UUCP on a red hat linux installation. How do I know in a c program that a UUCP transfer succeeded or failed? Is there some kindof call back mechanism that I can use? Is there some configuration that will run some executable in case of a failure or success? I suppose the kind of notification I am expecting is a message on a queue or an update of some application specific shared memory. Any help in this matter is greatly appreciated. regards Saravanan ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: glibc question
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 06:09 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Tony Alfrey: Yes, I read the SXS. My principle question is . . . if I have applications complied earlier against glibc-2.2.1 and I install glibc-2.2.4, will the applications now crash? No. Going the other way -- apps compiled against 2.2.4 running on a 2.2.1 system -- might not run, though. I think that's probably OK if I change to 2.2.4 Thanks. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: glibc question
Quoth Tony Alfrey: Yes, I read the SXS. My principle question is . . . if I have applications complied earlier against glibc-2.2.1 and I install glibc-2.2.4, will the applications now crash? No. Going the other way -- apps compiled against 2.2.4 running on a 2.2.1 system -- might not run, though. Kurt -- A bird in the bush usually has a friend in there with him. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: yet another .pdf question
dep wrote: i have a very long pdf file, several pages of which i would like to be able to save to a separate pdf file. i can find no way of doing this without buying very expensive software. does anyone know of a way to do this? acrobat reader has no provision for it that i can find, and for some reason the linux pdf tools shipped with suse 8.2 are capable of opening no pdf file, from any source, that i can find. thanks. Hi Take a look at http://www.fytek.com/products.php?pg=pdfmeld Hope this helps Gilles ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: a general rpm question
On Monday 20 October 2003 03:40 am, David A. Bandel wrote: snip dynamic executables use /etc/ld.so.cache (generated from entries and /etc/ld.so.conf and by running ldconfig) to find libraries they require. Ahh, yes. I forgot about ldconfig!! Thanks for the reminder! I would have forgotten to run it and I'd then still be a library 'short'. snip -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
glibc question
Hi; I've got an app that wants libc.so.6 (which I have) but it tells me that it wants the version from glibc-2.2.4, while I have something a little older, like glibc-2.2.1. glibc-2.2.4 and all its parts is a big thing (maybe over 10 MB) and I seem to remember from the list that upgrading this is a box breaker if not done right and that the suggestion was that it is easier just to get a distro with this already part of the installation. Is my memory correct or is this something that actually slides in with ease? Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: glibc question
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi; I've got an app that wants libc.so.6 (which I have) but it tells me that it wants the version from glibc-2.2.4, while I have something a little older, like glibc-2.2.1. glibc-2.2.4 and all its parts is a big thing (maybe over 10 MB) and I seem to remember from the list that upgrading this is a box breaker if not done right and that the suggestion was that it is easier just to get a distro with this already part of the installation. Is my memory correct or is this something that actually slides in with ease? No, your memory is correct, although upgrading glibc isn't neccesarily hard, its just not simple either. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: glibc question
On Monday 20 October 2003 05:03 am, Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi; I've got an app that wants libc.so.6 (which I have) but it tells me that it wants the version from glibc-2.2.4, while I have something a little older, like glibc-2.2.1. glibc-2.2.4 and all its parts is a big thing (maybe over 10 MB) and I seem to remember from the list that upgrading this is a box breaker if not done right and that the suggestion was that it is easier just to get a distro with this already part of the installation. Is my memory correct or is this something that actually slides in with ease? No, your memory is correct, although upgrading glibc isn't neccesarily hard, its just not simple either. Yes, I read the SXS. My principle question is . . . if I have applications complied earlier against glibc-2.2.1 and I install glibc-2.2.4, will the applications now crash? Thanks. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: glibc question
On Monday 20 October 2003 07:31 am, Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tony Alfrey wrote: snip Yes, I read the SXS. My principle question is . . . if I have applications complied earlier against glibc-2.2.1 and I install glibc-2.2.4, will the applications now crash? No. You're not removing glibc-2.2.1, you're just adding glibc-2.2.4. Ah Hah! I guess I didn't read it that well. Very good! I will study it again and proceed VERY carefully. Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: glibc question
Net Llama! wrote: No. You're not removing glibc-2.2.1, you're just adding glibc-2.2.4. Have you tried the old symlink trick? -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux System G2 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: glibc question
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Leon Goldstein wrote: Net Llama! wrote: No. You're not removing glibc-2.2.1, you're just adding glibc-2.2.4. Have you tried the old symlink trick? Which trick is that? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
a general rpm question
Hi; I'm trying to install a SuSE rpm onto a Caldera partition and rpm --test gives me the typical big list of dependencies (all libraries). I have all of the libraries that it complains about, but they're probably not in the same place that SuSE puts them. So my question is: - Does rpm read the results of 'locate' or the rpm database file? - If it does, should it not be able to find the needed files/libraries? - Is there a generic fix for this sort of symptom?? Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: a general rpm question
On Sunday 19 October 2003 8:00 pm, someone claiming to be Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi; I'm trying to install a SuSE rpm onto a Caldera partition and rpm --test gives me the typical big list of dependencies (all libraries). I have all of the libraries that it complains about, but they're probably not in the same place that SuSE puts them. So my question is: - Does rpm read the results of 'locate' or the rpm database file? The rpm database. - If it does, should it not be able to find the needed files/libraries? If it does what? rpm knows only what's in its database. - Is there a generic fix for this sort of symptom?? There's the --nodeps switch that bypasses rpm's dependancy checking. If you're certain that the needed libs are indeed installed, it should be fine. The problem is, too many people use --nodeps or --force without really knowing what it does, and get upset when things stop working. Regards, Tim -- RedHat 8.0 Kernel 2.4.20-20.8, KDE 3.1.4, Xfree86 4.2.1 8:25pm up 14 days, 22:15, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.03, 0.01 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: a general rpm question
On Sunday 19 October 2003 05:32 pm, Tim Wunder wrote: On Sunday 19 October 2003 8:00 pm, someone claiming to be Tony Alfrey snip - Is there a generic fix for this sort of symptom?? There's the --nodeps switch that bypasses rpm's dependancy checking. If you're certain that the needed libs are indeed installed, it should be fine. The problem is, too many people use --nodeps or --force without really knowing what it does, and get upset when things stop working. Regards, Tim I seldom use rpm because of this issue. I try to always get source code and compile until all parts are found. I only have one more library to load up and dependencies should then be complete. My more general question pertains to the executable that finally gets installed and starts calling libraries. If the rpm didn't know about the library in the first place (because it did not use 'locate'), how will the executable know where it is? Thanks. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
yet another .pdf question
i have a very long pdf file, several pages of which i would like to be able to save to a separate pdf file. i can find no way of doing this without buying very expensive software. does anyone know of a way to do this? acrobat reader has no provision for it that i can find, and for some reason the linux pdf tools shipped with suse 8.2 are capable of opening no pdf file, from any source, that i can find. thanks. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: yet another .pdf question
You could always print the pages to postscript, and then open it with ghostview. On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, dep wrote: i have a very long pdf file, several pages of which i would like to be able to save to a separate pdf file. i can find no way of doing this without buying very expensive software. does anyone know of a way to do this? acrobat reader has no provision for it that i can find, and for some reason the linux pdf tools shipped with suse 8.2 are capable of opening no pdf file, from any source, that i can find. thanks. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: yet another .pdf question
quoth Net Llama!: | You could always print the pages to postscript, and then open it with | ghostview. that i have done. i've even used ps2pdf to make the resulting file into a .pdf. but the thing has big black bands across every page when opened with acrobat. the whole purpose is to make it portable, and .ps isn't as portable as .pdf is. -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: yet another .pdf question
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:17:29 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quoth Net Llama!: | You could always print the pages to postscript, and then open it with | ghostview. that i have done. i've even used ps2pdf to make the resulting file into a .pdf. but the thing has big black bands across every page when opened with acrobat. the whole purpose is to make it portable, and .ps isn't as portable as .pdf is. -- Bummer! OpenOffice allows you to create a pdf, but you can't read one! You might try http://www.pdf995.com/ on a WinBlast machine to convert the file to .doc or something else. It looks like there is a free version. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:44:43 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quoth Rick Sivernell: | DEP your right that if no print she will not be totally happy. | | Good news here - last weekend we had our 1st Sat computer sale. I | bought 2 scsi HP6100c scanners for $5.00 total. I have one on wife's | machine and suse setit up and scanned. wait a minute here. i thought the issue was getting stuff inside the computer to come out and appear on paper -- but what you've done is get stuff to jump off the paper and go inside the computer. which is kind of like a radio station where they can only listen to the radio, not broadcast . . . -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users neat trick, especialy for 2 scanners for 5 dollarsg. 1 for her 1 for me. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
quoth Rick Sivernell: | DEP your right that if no print she will not be totally happy. | | Good news here - last weekend we had our 1st Sat computer sale. I | bought 2 scsi HP6100c scanners for $5.00 total. I have one on wife's | machine and suse setit up and scanned. wait a minute here. i thought the issue was getting stuff inside the computer to come out and appear on paper -- but what you've done is get stuff to jump off the paper and go inside the computer. which is kind of like a radio station where they can only listen to the radio, not broadcast . . . -- dep Writing takes no time. It's finding something to say that takes forever. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 8:14 am, Rick Sivernell wrote: list I have converted my wife machine to linux, as I said about 10 days. Her only complaint is no printing. I can go to internet ok, but pinging machines on the intranet is a no go. Useing Suse 8.0 pro. can not find what is not allowng samba or cups from seeing the print servers. any suggestions appreciated. cheers Can you describe your print setup? Local printers? Networked printers? I have a similar situation here (about 4 linux machines and an occasional Winders) and CUPS works fine but that's on 8.2. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 10/07/03 07:05 + ++ Love thy neighbor, but make sure her husband is away first! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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If you can't ping machines on your intranet I would think you have a local network configuration problem. Are you trying to ping by IP or name? If you can't ping the ip's, it would suggest your wife is on a different subnet. If you can ping ip's but can't ping names, you might try just adding the name and ip of your print server to /etc/hosts to see if that fixes the pinging. Do you have a dhcpcd server on your intranet, etc. How does your wife connect to the internet? Joel problem. On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 07:14:56AM -0500, Rick Sivernell wrote: list I have converted my wife machine to linux, as I said about 10 days. Her only complaint is no printing. I can go to internet ok, but pinging machines on the intranet is a no go. Useing Suse 8.0 pro. can not find what is not allowng samba or cups from seeing the print servers. any suggestions appreciated. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
Joel Hammer wrote: If you can't ping the ip's, it would suggest your wife is on a different subnet. Yeah, I have the same problem with my wife. I sometimes get Destination unreachable, especially after I've let ignored warnings and errors for a while. Sorry ! Couldn't resist it ! ;) Regards, pascal chong ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Quoth Joel Hammer: If you can't ping the ip's, it would suggest your wife is on a different subnet. Most married men would suggest that their wives are on completely different networks... -- A UNIX saleslady, Lenore, Enjoys work, but she likes the beach more. She found a good way To combine work and play: She sells C shells by the seashore. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
Quoth Rick Sivernell: list I have converted my wife machine to linux, as I said about 10 days. Her only complaint is no printing. What a great idea! Upgrading should be a lot easier, and getting new wife machine would have to be a lot cheaper! Did you purchase her retail or order over the Internet? Kurt -- It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence which could support this. -- Bertrand Russell ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Kurt Wall wrote: What a great idea! Upgrading should be a lot easier, and getting new wife machine would have to be a lot cheaper! Did you purchase her retail or order over the Internet? He built her from parts he bought at the LUG meeting. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
James That was it, fixed that now I can ping using 192.168.0.x for any machine, but using a name that is in hosts file does not. The printers are on a network file server from netgear, PS1110 and a M$win2k server lp1 port. My wife machine has samba 3 and smbclient can not connect and cups can not find any remote, no ability to see remote machines. I guess I will figure out all of this in time. DEP your right that if no print she will not be totally happy. Good news here - last weekend we had our 1st Sat computer sale. I bought 2 scsi HP6100c scanners for $5.00 total. I have one on wife's machine and suse setit up and scanned. money's worth on that deal already, sometimes you fall into crap and still smell like a roseg. I thought gimp had a scnner ability, only thing that have found is a camera selection now. What is there for scanner software? cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:06:51 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoth Joel Hammer: If you can't ping the ip's, it would suggest your wife is on a different subnet. Most married men would suggest that their wives are on completely different networks... Naah. If it was a network, a communication protocol could be devised. I know of none... -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
Rick Sivernell wrote: What is there for scanner software? xsane gimp should have the ability under the File/Acquire menu. -- Ken ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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you guys are the cats meowg, take a small situation and turn it into the comedy club, Hope you guys are having great fun here, I have been laughing reading your digress into doldrumsg. I will say my wife is most likely the same as any of yours, mine just dislikes computers. Will not refuses to learn anymore than she needs to. Built her MACHINE from spare machine components. g cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Now you have me stumped! Have you got a special name resolve order set? Is your /etc/nswitch.conf file set to 'file dns' ? and what does smbclient -L hostname say. Rick Sivernell wrote: James That was it, fixed that now I can ping using 192.168.0.x for any machine, but using a name that is in hosts file does not. The printers are on a network file server from netgear, PS1110 and a M$win2k server lp1 port. My wife machine has samba 3 and smbclient can not connect and cups can not find any remote, no ability to see remote machines. I guess I will figure out all of this in time. DEP your right that if no print she will not be totally happy. Good news here - last weekend we had our 1st Sat computer sale. I bought 2 scsi HP6100c scanners for $5.00 total. I have one on wife's machine and suse setit up and scanned. money's worth on that deal already, sometimes you fall into crap and still smell like a roseg. I thought gimp had a scnner ability, only thing that have found is a camera selection now. What is there for scanner software? cheers -- James McDonald Singleton Australia 61+ (0)2 65712401 61+ 0428 320 219 You are an excellent tactician, Captain. You let your second in command attack while you sit and watch for weakness. -- Khan Noonian Singh, Space Seed, stardate 3141.9 Linux 2.4.22 #1 Mon Sep 1 20:03:11 EST 2003 athlon i386 GNU/Linux 00:15:00 up 3 days, 22:16, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.23, 0.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Rick, Check out www.xsane.org. I'm not sure exactly how, but since installing xsane, it shows up under File/Acquire of Gimp. I haven't tried scanning directly into Gimp -- stand-alone, xsane works great -- but it should work. mike On Wednesday 08 October 2003 05:13 pm, you wrote: I thought gimp had a scnner ability, only thing that have found is a camera selection now. What is there for scanner software? -- Debian 'Sarge': Registered Linux User #241964 More laws, less justice. -- Marcus Tullius Ciceroca, 42 BC ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Quoth Rick Sivernell: you guys are the cats meowg, take a small situation and turn it into the comedy We certainly like to think we're the cat's meow, anyway. Kurt -- What is a magician but a practising theorist? -- Obi-Wan Kenobi ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Rick, you guys are the cats meowg, take a small situation and turn it into the comedy club, Hope you guys are having great fun here, I have been laughing reading your digress into doldrumsg. I will say my wife is most likely the same as any of yours, mine just dislikes computers. Will not refuses to learn anymore than she needs to. Built her MACHINE from spare machine components. g There is your problem. She wanted you to buy her the fancy one. BTW, I believe we are on the same network, just working with vastly different protocols that occasionally make a data transfer. See the first image here for an explanation: http://www.eskimo.com/~tomc/Humor/Humor.html In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: question
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:13:21 -0700 Condon Thomas A KPWA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, you guys are the cats meowg, take a small situation and turn it into the comedy club, Hope you guys are having great fun here, I have been laughing reading your digress into doldrumsg. I will say my wife is most likely the same as any of yours, mine just dislikes computers. Will not refuses to learn anymore than she needs to. Built her MACHINE from spare machine components. g There is your problem. She wanted you to buy her the fancy one. BTW, I believe we are on the same network, just working with vastly different protocols that occasionally make a data transfer. See the first image here for an explanation: http://www.eskimo.com/~tomc/Humor/Humor.html In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Tom I enjoyed it, it is true I believe -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Sun Netra question
Simply, the Cisco cable is an 8 conductor flat cable with one twist in it. Pin 1---8 2---7 3---6 4---5 5---4 6---3 7---2 8---1 you could easily duplicate this with CAT5. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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quoth Rick Sivernell: | I have converted my wife machine to linux, as I said about 10 days. | Her only complaint is no printing. this idea of a wife machine is intriguing -- i may try it next time out. however, if she has no functioning parallel port, what's the point? -- dep in some places, lawyer and liar are homonyms; in all places, lawyer and liar are synonyms. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Sun Netra question
Anyone here ever had to admin a Sun Netra? I've recently inherited a few (against my will), and discovered that they don't have the DB25 serial port that i'm accustomed to on other Sun hardware. Anyone know what kind of cable is needed to setup serial console on these beasts (and where I could obtain it)? thanks! -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Sun Netra question
Net Llama! wrote: Anyone here ever had to admin a Sun Netra? I've recently inherited a few (against my will), and discovered that they don't have the DB25 serial port that i'm accustomed to on other Sun hardware. Anyone know what kind of cable is needed to setup serial console on these beasts (and where I could obtain it)? thanks! Doesn't that use a fifteen pin connector? I ran the cables for one such system quite some time ago, I'll have to look up my notes to see if I have recorded the pin-outs. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Sun Netra question
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Ted Ozolins wrote: Net Llama! wrote: Anyone here ever had to admin a Sun Netra? I've recently inherited a few (against my will), and discovered that they don't have the DB25 serial port that i'm accustomed to on other Sun hardware. Anyone know what kind of cable is needed to setup serial console on these beasts (and where I could obtain it)? thanks! Doesn't that use a fifteen pin connector? I ran the cables for one such system quite some time ago, I'll have to look up my notes to see if I have recorded the pin-outs. Its some kind of RJ45 (8 pin, i guess). There are two ports, one is LOM, the other is just an ordinary RJ45. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Net Llama! wrote: Its some kind of RJ45 (8 pin, i guess). There are two ports, one is LOM, the other is just an ordinary RJ45. PIN SIGNAL DB25 1 --- DTS --- 4 2 --- DTR ---20 3 --- TXD --- 2 4 --- Sig GND --- 1 5 --- Sig GND --- 7 6 --- RXD --- 3 7 --- DCD --- 8 8 --- DCS --- 5 -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Sun Netra question
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Ted Ozolins wrote: Net Llama! wrote: Its some kind of RJ45 (8 pin, i guess). There are two ports, one is LOM, the other is just an ordinary RJ45. PIN SIGNAL DB25 1 --- DTS --- 4 2 --- DTR ---20 3 --- TXD --- 2 4 --- Sig GND --- 1 5 --- Sig GND --- 7 6 --- RXD --- 3 7 --- DCD --- 8 8 --- DCS --- 5 OK. But i don't need DB25. I've got a Rocketport which takes RJ45, and the Netra RJ45, which seems to need something other than an ordinary cat5. Do you know if its a crossover, or something custom? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Sun Netra question
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003, Net Llama! wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Ted Ozolins wrote:
Net Llama! wrote:
Its some kind of RJ45 (8 pin, i guess). There are two ports, one is LOM,
the other is just an ordinary RJ45.
PIN SIGNAL DB25
1 --- DTS --- 4
2 --- DTR ---20
3 --- TXD --- 2
4 --- Sig GND --- 1
5 --- Sig GND --- 7
6 --- RXD --- 3
7 --- DCD --- 8
8 --- DCS --- 5
OK. But i don't need DB25. I've got a Rocketport which takes RJ45, and
the Netra RJ45, which seems to need something other than an ordinary cat5.
Do you know if its a crossover, or something custom?
If found that building rj45-db25 adapters for each system then plugging
these together to do the conversion. This tends to be far less confusing
for me than attempting to figure it out proprietary rf45 to proprietary
rj45, and also leaves me with a couple of general purpose cables for each
proprietary system when I'm done. I often use the Allentel rj45-dbxxx
adapters for this which go from female rf40 to the DB {9,25}{male,female}
connectors as they're easy to punch in, and I have a library of the color
codes for various hardware applications that makes it a no-brainer to
follow.
Bill
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Re: OT Sun Netra question
Net Llama! wrote: OK. But i don't need DB25. I've got a Rocketport which takes RJ45, and the Netra RJ45, which seems to need something other than an ordinary cat5. Do you know if its a crossover, or something custom? I'll have to check on that and get back to you. I know a few people here that work with this stuff. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Sun Netra question
Hi Llama ! You can use the typical console cable used for Cisco routers. That's what I used to hook up the office Netra to my office laptop. Plug into the LOM port and plug the other end into your 9-pin serial port. If you are using Windows, open a Hyperterminal window and press Enter several times to get the lom prompt. If you need the documentation for LOM port operations, you can look for it on the Internet, or email me. I might have it handy. Regards, pascal chong Ted Ozolins wrote: Net Llama! wrote: OK. But i don't need DB25. I've got a Rocketport which takes RJ45, and the Netra RJ45, which seems to need something other than an ordinary cat5. Do you know if its a crossover, or something custom? I'll have to check on that and get back to you. I know a few people here that work with this stuff. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Sun Netra question
Hi pascal, No cisco routers here (so no console cable). I've got alot of cat5, but that's about all. I get the feeling that I'll need to purchase, or construct some other kind, but i can't figure out which. ugh. i hate sun. On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Chong Yu Meng wrote: Hi Llama ! You can use the typical console cable used for Cisco routers. That's what I used to hook up the office Netra to my office laptop. Plug into the LOM port and plug the other end into your 9-pin serial port. If you are using Windows, open a Hyperterminal window and press Enter several times to get the lom prompt. If you need the documentation for LOM port operations, you can look for it on the Internet, or email me. I might have it handy. Regards, pascal chong Ted Ozolins wrote: Net Llama! wrote: OK. But i don't need DB25. I've got a Rocketport which takes RJ45, and the Netra RJ45, which seems to need something other than an ordinary cat5. Do you know if its a crossover, or something custom? I'll have to check on that and get back to you. I know a few people here that work with this stuff. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Net Llama! wrote: Hi pascal, No cisco routers here (so no console cable). I've got alot of cat5, but that's about all. I get the feeling that I'll need to purchase, or construct some other kind, but i can't figure out which. ugh. i hate sun. I know what you mean ! In my recent project, I had 3 different Sun servers requiring 3 different console cables. The Netra console cable is the most easily acquired, because it is the same as the Cisco console cable. The other 2 had to be fabricated manually. What you can do is, try to borrow one from your network engineer (or any network engineer friends), because you only need it for the initial OS install. After that, you just use Exceed to connect to the box via a cross-over cable and you can do the configuration, etc. on it. If you want, I can see if I can buy one here and send it over to you. But I think it may be cheaper (and faster) to order it in the US on Cisco's website or eBay, or the neighbourhood computer shop. pascal chong ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Sun Netra question
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Chong Yu Meng wrote: I know what you mean ! In my recent project, I had 3 different Sun servers requiring 3 different console cables. The Netra console cable is the most easily acquired, because it is the same as the Cisco console cable. The other 2 had to be fabricated manually. What you can do is, try to borrow one from your network engineer (or any network engineer friends), because you only need it for the initial OS install. After that, you just use Exceed to connect to the box via a cross-over cable and you can do the configuration, etc. on it. If you want, I can see if I can buy one here and send it over to you. But I think it may be cheaper (and faster) to order it in the US on Cisco's website or eBay, or the neighbourhood computer shop. Thanks for the offer, but i'm sure i can find one around here. Hell, Cisco's corporate headquarters are a 10 minute drive from where i work. Can you explain one thing though? Why do i need the Cisco cable for the OS install, but a crossover is good enough afterwards? -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Sun Netra question
Net Llama! wrote: Thanks for the offer, but i'm sure i can find one around here. Hell, Cisco's corporate headquarters are a 10 minute drive from where i work. Can you explain one thing though? Why do i need the Cisco cable for the OS install, but a crossover is good enough afterwards? If you interface with the Cisco cable through the LOM port, you get low-level access to the server. By that I mean you can power down, power up, get console access to the server. So, you can re-install the operating system in command-line mode. However, you cannot get X-Windows access, and I am pretty sure that you cannot execute all the console commands (such as df -k, etc.). The cross-over cable should be plugged into the Ethernet port of the Netra, and if you know the IP address, and the root password (or have an account on the server) you can access the server through Exceed or some X terminal application. This is particularly cool with Exceed because it looks as if you're on the server itself, and it's pretty easy to configure a connection through the wizard. Take note though that on hardened Solaris systems, all you get is a single window. In cases such as this, you'll probably need to re-install Solaris. However, if you can get to the CDE login, everything will look very familiar after that. There are some uncommon permutations that I haven't covered here, but if you'd like, we can communicate offline on this. I tried to get a Netra off my company as a bonus for a successful project completion, but they didn't agree. Regards, pascal chong ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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I went to your page, but I don't see what the issue is. I see a single graphic of a saw blade and a grey looking background. What am I supposed to see? Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager Lynch Digital Media Inc 416-744-7949 416-716-3964 (cell) 1-866-314-4678 416-744-0406 FAX www.LynchDigital.com -Original Message- From: Rick Sivernell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 6:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: question List I have created a website for a college project. The site is at the Univ. of Tulsa, as we are in a virtual bussiness enviroment. The web pages themselves are ok. But the problem is the background jpeg and some other jpegs screw up the whole thing on all pages. If I remove the jpegs all looks ok. Now their site is using M$ludge 2003 server. On all of my MS winders and Linux boxen, using mozilla/opera/IE site is just right. My question is, graphics created in the Gimp, what could be happenning to my graphics web pages. If anyone wants to view the site, feel free and let me know what you think. http://www.ecommerce.cis.utulsa.edu/saw22 Many thanks, cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List I have created a website for a college project. The site is at the Univ. of Tulsa, as we are in a virtual bussiness enviroment. The web pages themselves are ok. But the problem is the background jpeg and some other jpegs screw up the whole thing on all pages. If I remove the jpegs all looks ok. Now their site is using M$ludge 2003 server. On all of my MS winders and Linux boxen, using mozilla/opera/IE site is just right. My question is, graphics created in the Gimp, what could be happenning to my graphics web pages. If anyone wants to view the site, feel free and let me know what you think. http://www.ecommerce.cis.utulsa.edu/saw22 Many thanks, cheers I think you want one or the other here, not both. body bgcolor=white background=image001.gif lang=EN-US Chris ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Wil I worked till midnight and rewrote or repaired the problem. What did you think ot it. I wused M$ to create the 2nd original which is a major screw up. Only the 1 st web design for me, rather do c++ development .g cheers and many thanks for looking to all -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Rick, As of this morning (Pacific time) it still has some problems. It shows up OK in my IE 6.0 on a WinXPPro machine, but I suspect on a good browser it would be $^*(%%^#. One reason is the code. Sample of your HTML (from View-Source): *** html head meta name=generator content=Bluefish 0.9 titleMain Heading Goes Here/title meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 meta name=generator content=Bluefish, see http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/; /head body bgcolor=white background=image001.gif lang=EN-US div class=Section1 div align=center font color=red face=times size=-3 h1 style='margin-top:0in'a name=_top/aJTB Sawsspan style=mso-spacerun: yes /spanJust the Best Anywhere/h1/font p align=center style='text-align:center'img width=171 height=167 src=image002.jpg/p/div *** Note that the very first line contains no closing . This is a typical M$ tool fault. The M$ browser will forgive this, but most won't handle this properly because it is incomplete. Did you really do this with bluefish? Even the IE browser, however, finds some error with your span style. I see JTB SawsJust the Best Anywhere for your header. The spacing between the two phrases doesn't work. Your wood-chips background shows well here, though, so I don't think there is anything wrong with the graphic. In my experience getting a background image to show the same on all browsers is an almost impossible task. But that is why I don't design web sites for a living. HTH. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Registered Linux User #154358 Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 10:01, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Rick, snip Sample of your HTML (from View-Source): *** html head meta name=generator content=Bluefish 0.9 titleMain Heading Goes Here/title meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 meta name=generator content=Bluefish, see http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/; /head body bgcolor=white background=image001.gif lang=EN-US div class=Section1 div align=center font color=red face=times size=-3 h1 style='margin-top:0in'a name=_top/aJTB Sawsspan style=mso-spacerun: yes /spanJust the Best Anywhere/h1/font p align=center style='text-align:center'img width=171 height=167 src=image002.jpg/p/div *** Note that the very first line contains no closing . snip Even the IE browser, however, finds some error with your span style. There's a closing brace missing from the span tag too. should be span style=mso-spacerun: yes /span however there being nothing between the opening and closing span tags, this span does nothing anyway. Just remove the whole thing. Don't remove the a name=_top/a though as this is used by any links to top of page with or without anything between the tags. Your wood-chips background shows well here, and the use of bgcolor= with background= is fine. A browser with images turned off will display the background colour specified by bgcolor. (Hmmm, haven't tried both with an image containing transparent parts. Will have to try that.) align=center and style='text-align:center is I believe a redundant mix of HTML 3.2 (align=center) and css (style=). align=center is depreciated. IanS ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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List I have created a website for a college project. The site is at the Univ. of Tulsa, as we are in a virtual bussiness enviroment. The web pages themselves are ok. But the problem is the background jpeg and some other jpegs screw up the whole thing on all pages. If I remove the jpegs all looks ok. Now their site is using M$ludge 2003 server. On all of my MS winders and Linux boxen, using mozilla/opera/IE site is just right. My question is, graphics created in the Gimp, what could be happenning to my graphics web pages. If anyone wants to view the site, feel free and let me know what you think. http://www.ecommerce.cis.utulsa.edu/saw22 Many thanks, cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Rick Sivernell wrote: List I have created a website for a college project. The site is at the Univ. of Tulsa, as we are in a virtual bussiness enviroment. The web pages themselves are ok. But the problem is the background jpeg and some other jpegs screw up the whole thing on all pages. If I remove the jpegs all looks ok. Now their site is using M$ludge 2003 server. On all of my MS winders and Linux boxen, using mozilla/opera/IE site is just right. My question is, graphics created in the Gimp, what could be happenning to my graphics web pages. If anyone wants to view the site, feel free and let me know what you think. http://www.ecommerce.cis.utulsa.edu/saw22 Looks like you used M$-Office as an HTML editor. That no workie. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 05:26:42 -0500, Rick Sivernell Rick, could you fix your system date please? Today is Thursday Oct 2, not Sat. Oct. 4th :-| Thanks, -- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Slackware-9.1 + XFce 4.0.0 + Sylpheed-0.9.6claws -- Alberta Mirror for Linux-SxS.org http://linux-sxs.org/ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:27:34 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Rick Sivernell wrote: List I have created a website for a college project. The site is at the Univ. of Tulsa, as we are in a virtual bussiness enviroment. The web pages themselves are ok. But the problem is the background jpeg and some other jpegs screw up the whole thing on all pages. If I remove the jpegs all looks ok. Now their site is using M$ludge 2003 server. On all of my MS winders and Linux boxen, using mozilla/opera/IE site is just right. My question is, graphics created in the Gimp, what could be happenning to my graphics web pages. If anyone wants to view the site, feel free and let me know what you think. http://www.ecommerce.cis.utulsa.edu/saw22 Looks like you used M$-Office as an HTML editor. That no workie. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMohttp://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Lonnie Yes I did, I left the real code I had done did this in a hurry. Is it fixable or do I need to rebuild. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: DSL (scary) question
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003, Keith Morse wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Bill Campbell wrote: If you're dealing with a company, they might try talking to the company that provides their dialtone. We're working with a company in Olympia Washington that's beyond the range for DSL and cable isn't an option so were using an Eartlink satellite connection which made up for being slow and erratic by being relatively expensive. They're in the process of switching all their phone lines to a non ILEC provider that's bringing in a T1 line, and will be splitting off six DS0s (6 x 64K) for the Internet, while using other channels for their voice lines. The savings from the voice lines and dropping the Earthlink account result in a savings even after paying the $135/month for the ISP feed. Are they a CLEC? And if you don't mind what is the company's name? (the providing the T-1). I'll have to find that out. We're going to install some equipment there in the next week or so (whenever the T's installed). Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ The most serious doubt that has been thrown on the authenticity of the biblical miracles is the fact that most of the witnesses in regard to them were fishermen. -- Arthur Binstead ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
