Re: New SxS ?
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:16:52 -0400 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: snip It's hard and requires a talent for high farce, but try to put yourself in the Redmond mindset - think like Fuzzy Allchin or Thickasa Bollard: - It is Microsoft's Constitutional right and God-given destiny to dominate the computer industry... it's the American Way. - After all, Bill Gates really invented the PC and the whole industry, after IBM, Steve Jobs and Texas Instruments screwed it up... so it's our football and our sandbox. - Why would any one want to use anything else, when it's obviously inferior... after all, it isn't Microsoft. - If you have coded anything to run on a PC, then obviously you are either stealing our code, or trespassing on our turf. - These Linux fanatics are unAmerican, tofu-eating, birkenstock-wearing socialist commies who haven't grown up yet. They don't know what the real world is - it's Microsoft. - Businesses that have adopted Linux have been misled by Linux Lies(tm) and disinformation spread by a few pony-tailed fuzzy-thinking jobless parasites. It's not their fault. It is our mission to educate them so they can rejoin the real world and pay licence fees like evgeryone else... after all, it's for their own good. Along a similar vein, Microsoft took out a double page ad in last month's Linux magazine - a first ever. When asked by LM why they were doing this, Redmond reportedly replied that it finally occured to them that hadn't done a good job of explaining to folks that Microsoft really was the best software around. As a result, a few businesses such as ISPs had strayed to the dark side. Their aim was to set the record straight so these folks could return to the fold, thus putting the galaxy back in balance. Oooohh!! Now I get it!!! Thanks for `splaining it to us Burns. ;o) Mike -- I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. --Tom Waits ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Another great article by D.E.P.
On Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:22:18 +0800 Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: That didn't help your older son. he's still using M$. Your older son should have demonstrated Netscape for Win32, not IE/OE. :) = He only uses M$ when he's already in there for Diablo II or some other such game that has not yet been ported to Linux. Otherwise he's a KDE (occasionally enlightenment) user when he's working on the computer. I'm not sure which browser he was showing her. I think she just didn't like the interface of Windows shrug Mike -- I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. --Tom Waits ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ATI Xpert 128
Works fine in general, AA Fonts look OK etc. The one problem is that the PCI cards do not support 3D because that requires pcigart (which is not done yet). pcigart (the PCI equivalent of agpgart) is being worked on, and you may even have SOME luck if you roll your own, but it's not in the main release yet. The AGP version works fine in 3D. I have it running on a PII 233, 128M RAM running SuSE 7.2. Gordon Steve Jardine wrote: Has anyone used the PCI version of the ATI Xpert 128 for Linux/XFree96? Does it work? Does it work well? Anomalies noted??? Oh, COL 3.1, AMD 900 Mhz, 512M RAM system. Thanks in advance. Steve ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
X can starty but won't on Boot or Init 5
Hi Guys, Had a little problem on one of my systems after an Xfree 4.1.0 update. As was pointed out to me a while back by a denizen of this list, I had reenabled XF 3.3.6 when I redirected X to XF_Mach64. Well I put the symlink back to XFree86 and the same respawning problem occured. Then somewhere I got off track. I did an install of 4.1.0 over the 4.0.2 without it working correctly. When I was done (yes I know), the respawning problem was still rampant, and no X or KDE. Well somewhere along the way, I don't know what I did (Really have tried to figure it out), init 5 doesn't seem to try and start anything. There used to be a small flurry of activity when going fropm init 3 to 5. There is an entry in messages about the change but not much more. When in 5 I can start X now, but that is all I get is X. no KDE. I tried KDE KDE2 but no go. Could someone point me to a doc on how the init system and maybe the boot sequence is enumerated. Something is amiss and I am running out of ideas... stayler ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: X can starty but won't on Boot or Init 5
Shawn Tayler wrote: Hi Guys, Had a little problem on one of my systems after an Xfree 4.1.0 update. As was pointed out to me a while back by a denizen of this list, I had reenabled XF 3.3.6 when I redirected X to XF_Mach64. Well I put the symlink back to XFree86 and the same respawning problem occured. Then somewhere I got off track. I did an install of 4.1.0 over the 4.0.2 without it working correctly. When I was done (yes I know), the respawning problem was still rampant, and no X or KDE. Well somewhere along the way, I don't know what I did (Really have tried to figure it out), init 5 doesn't seem to try and start anything. There used to be a small flurry of activity when going fropm init 3 to 5. There is an entry in messages about the change but not much more. When in 5 I can start X now, but that is all I get is X. no KDE. I tried KDE KDE2 but no go. Could someone point me to a doc on how the init system and maybe the boot sequence is enumerated. Something is amiss and I am running out of ideas... stayler Hi Shawn, Can you startx from runlevel 3? If so, try executing a KDE2.2 program, like kmail, see what kind of error you get. When I had a similar problem, I was getting a 'couldn't load shared library' error related to QT. Also check your X error log (I forget the actual log name, but it's in /var/logs) for clues. Apparently the problem was that I compiled qt2.3.1 with qt2.2.4 libs still around, hosing things up. Recompiling qt2.3.1 with qt2.2.4 moved out of the way worked (mv /usr/lib/qt2 /usr/lib/qt2.2.4) for me. HTH, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: X can starty but won't on Boot or Init 5
I have a funny thing with various kervel versions I boot and the nvidia driver from nvidia. I sometimes get in this mode. Try ALT-CTRL BACKSPACE That tells the X server to restart. It seems that this also stops respawning when getting ready to start kdm for login. Then you will have a character login. From there you can run 'XFree86 -configure' or just edit your config file. Or run X directly from the command line to see what it is unhappy about. For a clue as to the problem, look at /var/log/gui. All text written by the X server is placed here, including why it may not want to start. On Thu, 06 Sep 2001 05:58:52 -0700 (PST) Shawn Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hi Guys, | | Had a little problem on one of my systems after an Xfree 4.1.0 update. | As was pointed out to me a while back by a denizen of this list, I had | reenabled XF 3.3.6 when I redirected X to XF_Mach64. Well I put the | symlink back to XFree86 and the same respawning problem occured. Then | somewhere I got off track. I did an install of 4.1.0 over the 4.0.2 | without it working correctly. When I was done (yes I know), the | respawning problem was still rampant, and no X or KDE. Well somewhere | along the way, I don't know what I did (Really have tried to figure it | out), init 5 doesn't seem to try and start anything. There used to be | a small flurry of activity when going fropm init 3 to 5. There is an | entry in messages about the change but not much more. When in 5 I can | start X now, but that is all I get is X. no KDE. I tried KDE KDE2 | but no go. | | Could someone point me to a doc on how the init system and maybe the | boot sequence is enumerated. Something is amiss and I am running out | of ideas... | | stayler | | ___ | http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc |-http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
hmm..
ignore this. playing w/ amavis -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ Everybody repeat after me: We are all individuals. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
this msg is also infected ;)
attached is a FAKE EICAR executable. It should not have made it to the list, but instead should have been caught by Amavis ;) -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ If you can't enjoy yourself, enjoy someone else. X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*
sendmail gurus! need your help
I am thinking that I can make use of Amavis for scanning this list by doing the following to my sendmail.cf. However, I would like everyone's ideas/opinions on it... I would change the existing: Mprog,[tab]P=/usr/sbin/smrsh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL, D=$z:/, [tab]T=X-Unix/X-Unix/X-Unix, [tab]A=smrsh -c $u to Mprog,[tab]P=/usr/sbin/amavis, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL, D=$z:/. [tab]T=X-Unix/X-Unix/X-Unix, [tab]A=amavis $f $u /usr/sbin/smrsh -c $u would that cause the mail to go through Amavis and then delivered through smrsh? Or no? Thanks! -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ Electrocution: Burning at the stake with all the modern improvements. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
more sendmail help needed!
How can I change what gets displayed on a sendmail generated 502 error? I wish to remove the sendmail version string from this error message (and all others). thanks! -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ Therapy is expensive, poppin' bubble wrap is cheap! You choose. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: configure error in kde2.2
Hi! Forwarding to this list in case somebody can offer some ideas. Thanks in advance! -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: configure error in kde2.2 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 07:10:03 -0700 From: Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! When I try to compile kdelibs from the kde2.2 source, I get a configure error of no known STL type found. What am I missing?? Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: X can starty but won't on Boot or Init 5
Here is an even better answer than the one I sent earlier. Check that /usr/X11R6/bin/kde2 is a symlink to /usr/bin/startkde. If you reinstalled X, maybe a few additions are no longer in X's bin directory. Hope that helps even more. (That and I reread your message and realized I was answering a slightly different question.) On Thu, 06 Sep 2001 05:58:52 -0700 (PST) Shawn Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hi Guys, | | Had a little problem on one of my systems after an Xfree 4.1.0 update. | As was pointed out to me a while back by a denizen of this list, I had | reenabled XF 3.3.6 when I redirected X to XF_Mach64. Well I put the | symlink back to XFree86 and the same respawning problem occured. Then | somewhere I got off track. I did an install of 4.1.0 over the 4.0.2 | without it working correctly. When I was done (yes I know), the | respawning problem was still rampant, and no X or KDE. Well somewhere | along the way, I don't know what I did (Really have tried to figure it | out), init 5 doesn't seem to try and start anything. There used to be | a small flurry of activity when going fropm init 3 to 5. There is an | entry in messages about the change but not much more. When in 5 I can | start X now, but that is all I get is X. no KDE. I tried KDE KDE2 | but no go. | | Could someone point me to a doc on how the init system and maybe the | boot sequence is enumerated. Something is amiss and I am running out | of ideas... | | stayler | | ___ | http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc |-http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: configure error in kde2.2
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 08:21:34 -0700 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hi! | | When I try to compile kdelibs from the kde2.2 source, I get a configure | error of no known STL type found. | What am I missing?? A libstdc++ maybe? This refers to C++ STL thingies (I'm a C guy, C++ is just to the left of where I am.) Check your GNU C++ install. -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: configure error in kde2.2
Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi! Forwarding to this list in case somebody can offer some ideas. Thanks in advance! -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: configure error in kde2.2 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 07:10:03 -0700 From: Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! When I try to compile kdelibs from the kde2.2 source, I get a configure error of no known STL type found. What am I missing?? Perchance the STL is not installed? Kurt -- A friend in need is a pest indeed. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP-IB interface
Well, I got it third-hand. My Mom got it from somebody else, I'm not even sure who. DOh! On Wednesday 05 September 2001 03:15 pm, you wrote: Ask whoever you got the plotter from what they do with old computers and parts. ;-) he/she probably had no idea it needed an interface card. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 16:18, Aaron Grewell wrote: Yeah, but the plotter was free. $525 for an interface card for an 80's vintage plotter that didn't cost me a dime is really a bit pricey. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:04 am, you wrote: Thats not that bad, really. Considering that most of the stuff cabled to one costs ten times that much. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 12:46, Aaron Grewell wrote: Cough, sputter, sputter. $525? Sticker shock indeed! I'm definitely hitting e-bay to see if I can find a used one! On Wednesday 05 September 2001 09:40 am, you wrote: ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: another fake virus to test amavis
Douglas J. Hunley wrote: ignore this message (if you get it) and the fake virus attached. X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H* Maybe Amavis is smart enough to know it's a fake virus. Try sending a real one. Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
HP-IB
I got this from HP, for those who have been following the topic. It's actually quite informative, but as they said it took them quite awhile to gather the data. This thing is older than dirt, I guess. :-) -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Plotter Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:57:27 -0600 From: DesignJet Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for contacting Hewlett-Packard's Customer Care Technical Center. JetDirect cards, from HP, do not support anything less than a parallel connection. In the past, this may have been so. The HP-IB interface was used in a networking environment that was designed around HP-IB. In the past, HP did sell an adapter card that fit into an ISA slot in the computer that allowed you an HP-IB port in which to plug into. HP no longer sells anything of this type or anything related to this type of connection. The 7475A was introduced September of 1985 and was considered obsolete in April of 1995. Therfore any hardware type of support was also considered to be over. You may be in some luck to get this old technology to operate once again. There are places on the web that support and still sell parts for the 1978 ANSI/IEEE-488 standard. The plotter interface board (I/O) and parts used the part numbers below. These numbers may be useful in locating the parts. To convert HP-IB to RS-232-C: PCA Board - 07475-68101 Standoff (2) - 1251-7828 Label - 07475-00011 HP-IB Interface Card - 82335I HP-IB Cable - 10833D (0.5 meter) HP-IB Cable - 10833A (1 meter) HP-IB Cable - 10833B (2 meter) HP-IB Cable - 10833C (3 meter) Below are some companies that may still be found on the web: Via West Interface, Inc Black Box Co. (blackox.com) - last best known contact Omnitronix I/O Tech TMS Plotters, Inc 23621 Ridge Route Dr. Suite A Laguna Hills, CA 92653 (714) 837-2324 (714) 837-2305 fax NOTE: Some or all of these places may no longer exist. It would be a good idea to do a search on the web for IEEE-488. If the items that you are looking for are found, it can be very expensive. The items found and purchased will be supported by that product vendor. Any other information will be found at www.hp.com with what information is left in the knowledgebase. Below are some document numbers that may be helpful: BPP01244 - Test communication from DOS. BPP01034 - HP-IB History and Troubleshooting. BPP01035 - HP-GL Plotters on the Network. BPP02024 - Pen Plotters - Frequently Asked Questions. BPP01965 - Pens and Media Supplies. Lastly, below you will find driver information: HP does not make a driver for any of the Pen Plotters in a Windows environment. Drivers may be obtained from other sources. Below you will find a list of options. 1. Windows supplied drivers. (Supported by Microsoft) 2. Some programs will supply there own drivers such as AutoCAD. (Supported by the program vendor) 3. www.tailormade.com (Supported by Tailor Made) 4. www.winline.com (Supported by Software Mechanics) WINLine is a system driver for Microsoft Windows v 3.1, 3.11, 95, and NT, written and supported by Software Mechanics. The WINline driver is an alternative driver that can be used in place of the drivers that ship with Microsoft Windows or in place of the Hewlett-Packard written drivers. It is supported and written by the company Software Mechanics. WINLine supports most of the Hewlett-Packard pen printers, and HP DesignJet printers. For more information or technical support, contact Software Mechanics at www.winline.com (this will provide a list of phone numbers, by area, for support). This is all the information that we can supply for your plotter. It took some time to locate what we found for you. We wish you luck with your plotter. Once again, thank you for contacting Hewlett-Packard's Customer Care Technical Center. NOTE: Our advice is strictly limited to the question(s) asked and is based on the information provided to us. Problems and solutions may depend on the nature of your system environment and various other parameters that are unknown to HP; therefore, HP cannot assume any responsibility or liability. Please be advised that technical information changes as new data becomes available, therefore, HP recommends that you check back at our Customer Care web site located at http://www.hp.com/cposupport/eschome.html regularly for possible updates. Hewlett-Packard shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, special, incidental or consequential damages in connection with the use of this information. Original message follows: - OK, what about an ethernet transciever or some such then? If it's networkable that's actually even better. I saw passing reference to the availability of MIO cards for certain printers that were originally HP-IB, but didn't get the association. On Tuesday 04 September 2001 01:55 pm, you wrote: Thank you for contacting Hewlett-Packard's Customer Care Technical Center.
Re: another fake virus to test amavis
On Thursday 06 September 2001 11:55, Tim Wunder babbled: Douglas J. Hunley wrote: ignore this message (if you get it) and the fake virus attached. X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H* Maybe Amavis is smart enough to know it's a fake virus. Try sending a real one. amavis should block it either way as I'm using their test file. (as you can see above).. it's definately a configuration issue on my end cause sending the file to any user on the box directly gets caught. it's just the lists that don't. and sending a real one would not be very professional ;) -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ Teach programmers not to drink and hack. (from linux/drivers/scsi/53c7,8xx.c) ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ping
testing somethine. no virus this time ;) -- Douglas J. Hunley Unix/Linux Admin http://linux.nf The truth is out th- oh, wait, here it is... ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
/etc/mail/aliases question
Would the following construct be legal in a Sendmail aliases file? some-list:[tab]|/local/path/executable|/local/path/executable2 -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ It's high time we stopped shielding people from their own stupidity. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: /etc/mail/aliases question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Doug: According to my Big Fat Book of Sendmail(TM) (Sendmail 2nd ed. O'Reilly), the syntax for the aliases file is: |prg |prg args |prg args I'd choose the last one, just to be sure: some-list:[tab]|/local/path/executable|/local/path/executable2 But my guess is that your line should work too. In theory, anything after the | will be passed to /bin/sh -c or /bin/smrsh -c (depending on your config) Anyway, you always have the option of doing the piping in a script and call it from the aliases file :) On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:50:40 -0400, Douglas J. Hunley wrote: Would the following construct be legal in a Sendmail aliases file? some-list:[tab]|/local/path/executable|/local/path/executable2 -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/ Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ It's high time we stopped shielding people from their own stupidity. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBO5eumBRcJRaVKt4XEQJIOgCcCmu2wHZKCxhDlrQ2u9GyHMsA2Q4AoORr HsM0aEu1mAbvGz/gE+f8iM3G =zJdg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ping
DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: testing somethine. no virus this time ;) -- Douglas J. Hunley Unix/Linux Admin http://linux.nf The truth is out th- oh, wait, here it is... ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Reply from 24.249.182.134: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=48 Reply from 24.249.182.134: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=48 Reply from 24.249.182.134: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=48 Reply from 24.249.182.134: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=48 Reply from 24.249.182.134: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=48 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTtest
DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: ping pong Kurt -- When asked by an anthropologist what the Indians called America before the white men came, an Indian said simply Ours. -- Vine Deloria, Jr. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ping
On Thursday 06 September 2001 12:50 pm, you wrote: another (last) test pong ping pong cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: configure error in kde2.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: slap to forehead . . . Whap! No STL installed, why didn't I think of that?? Uh,, what's an STL??? The C++ Standard Template Library. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: this message is infected
Today Douglas J. Hunley was heard saying: -attached is a FAKE EICAR executable. It should not have made it to the list, -but instead should have been caught by Amavis ;) *** Lucky me for using Jason's procmail Sanitizer scripts... which, BTW, take care of spam too ;-) Zoran. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: M$ gets a free 'get out of jail card' Re: New SxS ?
Today Net Llama was heard saying: snip -Wonderful how my tax dollars were used on a case that just got thrown -away. *** It's ridiculous! Not only are they making a fool of them selves but also of the American public and the rest of the World population. Further more they've given M'$oft an incredible push in the back to go on with what they were doing and certainly even more. Pitiful. Zoran. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: M$ gets a free 'get out of jail card' Re: New SxS ?
This is bigger than our inclinations. The NY TIMES had a glowing review of windows XP. GLOWING. The important message is that to run it any computer two years old will be too slow (memory hog, cpu needful). So, the PC industry is hoping that windows XP will be the must have app that will ignite sales again. Certainly, a bunch of people like us using a low overhead OS like linux will never do anything to ignite PC sales. To delay windows XP because of some lapses in good conduct by certain MS$ executives might cost many people their jobs and hurt the reelection chances of some politicians. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [SLE] u.s. v. microsoft
On Thursday 06 September 2001 17:41, Curtis Rey wrote: | In view of the Court of Appeals' unanimous decision that Microsoft | illegally maintained its monopoly over PC-based operating systems | -- the core allegation in the case -- the Department believes that | it has established a basis for relief that would end Microsoft's | unlawful conduct, prevent its recurrence and open the operating | system market to competition. Pursuing a liability determination on | the tying claim would only prolong proceedings and delay the | imposition of relief that would benefit consumers. | | If I were M$ I'd be worried! This leaves all conduct from then | 'till now on the table and M$ has pissed off a lot of people since | the initial rulings. absolutely right. the story that comes closest to getting it right is this one: http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO63573,00.html note that the remedies involve making the api (and therefore such things as the file formats, because by bundling msft has *made* 'em part of the api) available to one and all. seems to me that was what many of us were seeking, is it not? here is the list of remedies, all of which are part of what justice says it's pursuing: A ban on any adverse actions against PC makers for supporting competing products. Uniform Windows licensing and pricing terms to manufacturers. Flexibility for PC makers in configuring Windows, including the desktop and boot sequence. Disclosure of application programming interfaces to developers and others at the same time Microsoft discloses those interfaces to its own personnel. Barring Microsoft from knowingly interfering with the performance of any non-Microsoft middleware running on the operating system. A ban on any exclusive dealings -- agreements requiring exclusive promotion, for instance, of Microsoft platform software. Establishment of a corporate antitrust compliance officer and committee to ensure the company follows antitrust laws. (you can ignore edwin black's cuckoo statement at the bottom; he's just generally pissed off at the world.) -- dep one day, you'll wish it was now. your wish has been granted. don't waste it. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: X can start but won't on Boot or Init 5
Yes I was. What I found is that /etc/XF86Config-4 is some sort of overide config file. XFree86 will try to load whatever card driver is in that file as opposed to what you have entered into XF86Config. I mv'd it and the proper driver loaded right off the bat. I have no idea how a Rage 128 Pro card got entered. Never had one and none of my configuration attempts has recreated the -4 file.Very strange. The clue was in /var/log/messages. The X server was stopping unexpectedly. /var/log/gui was showing some old XF3.3.6 stuff and there was nothing in /var/log/XFree86.0.log. stayler On Thu, 06 Sep 2001 09:40:17 -0400, Tim Wunder wrote: Hi Shawn, Can you startx from runlevel 3? If so, try executing a KDE2.2 program, like kmail, see what kind of error you get. When I had a similar problem, I was getting a 'couldn't load shared library' error related to QT. Also check your X error log (I forget the actual log name, but it's in /var/logs) for clues. Apparently the problem was that I compiled qt2.3.1 with qt2.2.4 libs still around, hosing things up. Recompiling qt2.3.1 with qt2.2.4 moved out of the way worked (mv /usr/lib/qt2 /usr/lib/qt2.2.4) for me. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: configure error in kde2.2
On Thursday 06 September 2001 02:08 pm, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: slap to forehead . . . Whap! No STL installed, why didn't I think of that?? Uh,, what's an STL??? The C++ Standard Template Library. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users to get install stl go to SxS and get the HowTo STL -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: X can starty but won't on Boot or Init 5
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 17:27:03 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Here is an even better answer than the one I sent earlier. Check that /usr/X11R6/bin/kde2 is a symlink to /usr/bin/startkde. If you reinstalled X, maybe a few additions are no longer in X's bin directory. Thanks, thats a good hint to keep around. stayler ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: another fake virus to test amavis
On Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:55:19 -0400, Tim Wunder wrote: Maybe Amavis is smart enough to know it's a fake virus. Try sending a real one. Tim I have a few to test with if you like. As long as you are not running redmond's scourgeware stayler ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Personal firewall
Very cool, Bruce: Thanks for posting this. I have it bookmarked. 73 de Glenn On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:30, you wrote: Thought you might want to make a note of this site: http://www.whatismyip.com/ -- Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #135678 Powered by SuSE 7.2 Linux Professional ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: u.s. v. microsoft
Well, it is a turn. Although I would be truely only satisfied with the detonation of a blast enhanced nuclear warhead in the middle of the MS campus. Plus the staking of all upper management over the appropriately sized ant hill stayler On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 17:26:25 -0400, dep wrote: http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2001/September/447at.htm it should be noted that the state attorneys general in the case are weighing in in general agreement with this, in no small measure because judge jackson's finding in the browser issue was overturned, as were his remedies, and these are unlikely to survive supreme court scrutiny. justice is saying that they're not gonna screw around anymore and instead go for the remedies they know they can get. this is bad news for msft, which was hoping for the whole thing to be overturned by the supremes. now this isn't likely. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Bash question: Piping output to a shell
I am trying to pipe input to a bash script, like so: echo one two three | script The script has this: for i in $@ do echo $i done This doesn't work, although echo one two three | xargs -n1 script does work. Is there a way to avoid having to use xargs? Thanks, Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: configure error in kde2.2
On Thursday 06 September 2001 08:29 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 08:21:34 -0700 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hi! | | When I try to compile kdelibs from the kde2.2 source, I get a | configure error of no known STL type found. | What am I missing?? A libstdc++ maybe? This refers to C++ STL thingies (I'm a C guy, C++ is just to the left of where I am.) Check your GNU C++ install. I've got libstdc++ but I installed from an rpm. Maybe it needs to be compiled with the same compiler (gcc2.95.2) that I'm trying to use?? I'll check. Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: configure error in kde2.2
On Thursday 06 September 2001 12:08 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: slap to forehead . . . Whap! No STL installed, why didn't I think of that?? Uh,, what's an STL??? The C++ Standard Template Library. I was beginning to think that. Should it not have been included with gcc 2.95 when I compiled that?? Would it be a separate library from the gnu folks?? (I'll see what's on their list). Kurt -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: configure error in kde2.2
On Thursday 06 September 2001 04:58 pm, Rick Sivernell wrote: On Thursday 06 September 2001 02:08 pm, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: slap to forehead . . . Whap! No STL installed, why didn't I think of that?? Uh,, what's an STL??? The C++ Standard Template Library. Kurt ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users to get install stl go to SxS and get the HowTo STL Oh, seriously cool!! Wouldn't you know it would be there! Thanks!! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Bash question: Piping output to a shell
Joel Hammer wrote: I am trying to pipe input to a bash script, like so: echo one two three | script The script has this: for i in $@ do echo $i done $@ holds positional parameters, not stdin. To read stdin, use read: --- snip --- #!/bin/sh read i while [ $i != ]; do echo $i read i done --- snip --- $ echo one two three | ./x one two three Kurt -- Authors are easy to get on with -- if you're fond of children. -- Michael Joseph, Observer ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Evangelism (dep style)
My son has succumb to pressure from the old man to use linux full time (that and he couldn't get windows to install for some reason and I refused to help him...). So taking in the advice of dep's latest .comment on linuxplanet, I'm trying to be a good guru. Unfortunately, he's asked a question that I don't know the answer to. He's downloaded a couple of mozilla nightlies and has liked what he's seen. His initial comment was something like, wow, that's fast. Of course, the last time he tried Mozilla was probly two months ago. Anyway, I walked him thru downloading a nightly tar binary and extracting it to a local folder to run and he seemed happy with that. Now, though, he wants to automate the process. So he asked me if it could be done and how. I told him that I'm sure it could be done, but I don't know how. SO the task at hand is to downoad the latest mozilla nightly and untar it to a local folder autmatically every night. Any scripting gurus out there wanna share their expertise with a budding 13-year old linux geek? Thanks, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Evangelism (dep style)
On Thursday 06 September 2001 21:41, Tim Wunder babbled: So he asked me if it could be done and how. I told him that I'm sure it could be done, but I don't know how. SO the task at hand is to downoad the latest mozilla nightly and untar it to a local folder autmatically every night. Any scripting gurus out there wanna share their expertise with a budding 13-year old linux geek? untested.. but --- cut here --- #!/bin/sh cd /opt wget http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest/mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz tar zxvf mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz rm mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz exit $? --- end cut --- (that's all one line after the 'cd' abd before the 'exit'... stupid wordwrap) -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ If I want to hear the pitter patter of little feet, I'll put shoes on my cat. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: tar troubles
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:40 pm, Myles Green dropped these nuggets of information: Hi Myles, Sorry it took awhile to get back. No problem with the questions. Answers dispersed throughout. A few questions, if I may. When you tar'd your mail folder what was the command you used? tar cvf mail.tar mail Did you check the file size of the .tar file against the original folder (IIRC, they should be very close to the same)? No I didn't. But I did test it by untarring it after I had it tar up but before I copied it to zip disk. It untared fine then. Did you try unpacking the .tar.bz2 file with 'tar xyvf file.tar.bz2'? Got a y --invalid option Can you see what's in the .tar file using some utility like KDE's Archiver or maybe midnight commander? KArchiver errors out with I can't fork a decompressor. I don't have midnight commander installed. And lastly, have you done this successfully in the past? I've successfully tarred them to backup but I've never had to try to restore them until now. So I guess I haven't. Sorry for all the questions but those are what came to mind. No problem. Thanks for the help. -- Tom Wilson Registered Linux user #199331 Live on your knees in conformity or die on your feet for honesty. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: tar troubles
--- Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:40 pm, Myles Green dropped these nuggets of information: Hi Myles, Sorry it took awhile to get back. No problem with the questions. Answers dispersed throughout. A few questions, if I may. When you tar'd your mail folder what was the command you used? tar cvf mail.tar mail Ummm...is 'mail' a file or a directory? If its a standard UNIX mail file, then its, well, a file. tar is for creating archives of multiple files. tar has no effect whatsoever on a single file. Have you tried just viewing the contents of mail.tar with a random text editor, or even less (or more) ? Can you see what's in the .tar file using some utility like KDE's Archiver or maybe midnight commander? KArchiver errors out with I can't fork a decompressor. I don't have midnight commander installed. Try something like xedit. I strongly suspect that mail.tar = mail . = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ Step-by-step help:http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Bash question: Piping output to a shell
Thanks. bash is fun but there are lots of twists. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: tar troubles
On Thursday 06 September 2001 11:05 pm, Net Llama dropped these nuggets of information: --- Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snips] Hi Lonni tar cvf mail.tar mail Ummm...is 'mail' a file or a directory? If its a standard UNIX mail file, then its, well, a file. tar is for creating archives of multiple files. tar has no effect whatsoever on a single file. Have you tried just viewing the contents of mail.tar with a random text editor, or even less (or more) ? Mail was a directory for kmail. It had the drafts, inbox, outbox, trash, and my custom folders under it. Viewing it with less and vi filled the screen with @'s and ^'s. Same with xedit too. [snips] -- Tom Wilson Registered Linux user #199331 Live on your knees in conformity or die on your feet for honesty. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: tar troubles
Tom Wilson wrote: I asked: What is the output of: $ file mail.tar mail.tar: ASCII text, with no line terminators It's not a tar file, then. Here's the output for a tarball: $ file test.tar test.tar: GNU tar archive Thanks. I appreciate the help. Try $ vi -b mail.tar and see what you can see. Kurt -- Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Kongy and Printing the Steps
Ok, here's one that has bothered me for a while. Why is it that I can't print out pages from the Steps using Konqueror? The same pages seem to print fine with Opera and Netscape stayler ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
