Vi question: Graphics
Any vi users here? I would like to use the [CNTRL]V sequence to add simple graphical thingees like small boxes and circles to my text files. Is there a way to do this with vi? I have checked out the ascii and iso-8859 pages, and I don't see any graphical thinges in those ascii codes. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hot summer days
Well, here it's around 4-6C(40F) and raining. A white Christmas is going to be iffy. Probably will just be cold and rainy. But then again, I'm on the opposite side of the world. Jim On Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:56, Keith Antoine wrote: > > Um, sitting here its 4pm and 33C Humidity 100%. The Temp on the cpu is > 63C (about 147F) and the systemm is 40C (about 106F). The room is > hotter with the beast going so I am going to shutdown and have a cool beer > and plenty of water. -- 1:42am up 1 day, 3:22, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Running Caldera W3.1 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows98: Command prompt?
I would guess he does. He can buy windows office XP or whatever for $20, too. At those prices, piracy doesn't really pay. Joel On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 10:18:18PM -0800, David Aikema wrote: > On December 22, 2001 07:02 am, Joel Hammer wrote: > > > So, he is going to install XP professional ($20 [no upgrade] from his > > school bookstore.) I may be tempted at that price. > > Does his university has some kinda special deal with microsoft going or > something? > > At my local university academic rates are given as $70-75 (trying to do a > mental conversion from canadian currency) and that's only for the upgrade. > > David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows98: Command prompt?
"command" in START-RUN - Original Message - From: "Joel Hammer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 8:32 PM Subject: Windows98: Command prompt? > A bit OT but: > Does anyone know how to get a MSDOS prompt on a window98 computer which > doesn't list that option anywhere? > My son needs to backup everything from his new laptop which has windows98. > It would be easiest just to run ftp from the command line but we can't find a way to get an > MSDOS prompt on his fancy HP powerful laptop computer. The fancy windows > GUI ftp client doesn't have a way to select all files at the same time. > I know, I know, dump windows, but he has to use windows at school. > Everytime I work with windows I am astounded by what an awful operating > system it is but its what we have to work with. > He is tired of windows98 crashing several times per day. > So, he is going to install XP professional ($20 [no upgrade] from his school > bookstore.) I may be tempted at that price. > Joel > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Dumb Question of the week
--- stayler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would you guys be able to point me to a good reference on major and > minor numbers for file systems. I'm p-laying with IDE CDROM and DVD > drives and COL is complaining about wrong major/minor numbers. They > are set to 1 1 just like my SCSI's. Suggestions? /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Dumb Question of the week
Would you guys be able to point me to a good reference on major and minor numbers for file systems. I'm p-laying with IDE CDROM and DVD drives and COL is complaining about wrong major/minor numbers. They are set to 1 1 just like my SCSI's. Suggestions? stayler ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hot summer days
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 15:56:16 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote: > >Um, sitting here its 4pm and 33C Humidity 100%. The Temp on the cpu is >63C (about 147F) and the systemm is 40C (about 106F). The room is hotter >with the beast going so I am going to shutdown and have a cool beer and >plenty of water. Good idea Skippy, You in a queenslander or are you surface mount ;-) stayler ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hot summer days
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:18,Peter Ruskin scribed: > On Saturday 22 Dec 2001 09:16, Keith Antoine wrote: > > What I forgot to say and was the point is that I cannot format floppies > > they all error out and the machines is HOT, so what is the max temp for > > Atlon and hd's in C ? > > Athlons' top temperature (internal) is 90something. Mine's running at > 51.3 at the moment - it goes up to about 57 when I'm compiling. Um, sitting here its 4pm and 33C Humidity 100%. The Temp on the cpu is 63C (about 147F) and the systemm is 40C (about 106F). The room is hotter with the beast going so I am going to shutdown and have a cool beer and plenty of water. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
Jay Nugent wrote: > Greetings, > > On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Lee wrote: > > > Jay Nugent wrote: > > > > >Snip > > >Too bad we blew it back in the late 70's, early 80's when we were > > > *supposed* to move over to the metric system. Base-10 is FAR better a > > > measurement scale than Base-the-kings-feet and other arbitrary scales. > > > > Metric is just as arbitrary as a king's foot being 12 inches long rather than 10 >and > > 36 inches from tip of his nose to finger tips. In the universe there's nothing more > > arbitrary than the circumference of the Earth or boiling and freezing point of >pure > > water at one standard Earth atmosphere. > >Yeah, but how do you start from scratch unless you happen to have the > king's body laying around somewhere. At least with a *water* standard, > your referance is available in abundance on the vast majority of the > planet. There was only ONE king and he's pretty rotted away by now so we > can't really be sure that our measurement system is even in calibration > anymore... ;-) We can recalibrate against a water standard at anytime. > > --- Jay Actual we don't need to. The US bureau of Standards maintains a metal standard for the inch, foot, yard in a temperature controled environment along with metric and atomic standards for wave length standards. As far as pure water there is no such thing in the universe. Any planet that has sufficient atmosphere pressure and te mperature to maintain water in the liquid state also has gasepus impurities that end up in the water effecting it's boilling and freezing points. > > > "Those that sacrifice essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety > deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin (1759) > ++ > | Jay Nugent [EMAIL PROTECTED](734)971-1076(734)971-4529/Fax| > | Nugent Telecommunications [www.nuge.com] (734)649-0850/Cell | > | Internet Consulting/Linux SysAdmin/Engineering & Design/ISP Reseller | > | ISP Monitoring [www.ispmonitor.net] ISP & Modem Performance Monitoring | > | Web-Pegasus[www.webpegasus.com] Web Hosting/DNS Hosting/Shell Accts| > | LinuxNIC, Inc. [www.linuxnic.net] Registrar of the .linux TLD| > ++ > 11:00pm up 22 days, 19:44, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re: Windows98: Command prompt?
> as a MS beta-tester being allowed: "The number of bugs in a program is roughly proportional to the length of the source code (Rather than being proportional to the program's functionality). Randel L. Schwartz, "Learning Perl, 3rd Edition, O'Reilly, 2001 " ;-) Take it easy Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
On Saturday 22 December 2001 12:28 am,Keith Antoine wrote: > > Merry Xmas to all and the very best wishes to all fro the New year. > Ithas to be better than the last one dosen't it ?? A very merry to you! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
David Aikema wrote: > On December 22, 2001 07:54 pm, Lee wrote: > > > >Too bad we blew it back in the late 70's, early 80's when we were > > > *supposed* to move over to the metric system. Base-10 is FAR better a > > > measurement scale than Base-the-kings-feet and other arbitrary scales. > > > > Metric is just as arbitrary as a king's foot being 12 inches long rather > > than 10 and 36 inches from tip of his nose to finger tips. In the universe > > there's nothing more arbitrary than the circumference of the Earth or > > boiling and freezing point of pure water at one standard Earth atmosphere. > > That would be fine if you stuck to inches all the time but: > 12 inches = 1 foot > 3 feet = 1 yard > yards = 1 mile > > > then for volumes > teaspoons, tablespoons, cups, pints, quarts, gallons, etc. > > In metric: > its all in the prefixes > ... you don't need to memorize whole new things all the time > each prefix is related to the others by multiples of 10 > > David Aikema That's why we're so much better at Base eight and hexadecimal than the French. Lee > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re: Windows98: Command prompt?
Marvin Dickens babbled on about:
> I thought this was a linux list... Go figure.
generally. but from time to time an occasional is allowed. after all, we
all have to deal with other OSes once in a while
--
Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
Admin: http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net
panic("bad_user_access_length executed (not cool, dude)");
2.0.38 /usr/src/linux/kernel/panic.c
___
Linux-users mailing list
Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
Greetings, On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Lee wrote: > Jay Nugent wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Lee wrote: > > > > > David Aikema wrote: > > > > > > > On December 22, 2001 06:51 pm, Lee wrote: > > > > > > It got to 37C about 1.30 and is still 30C at the moment. Fans do little > > > > > > to cool one down and I had 3 travel jobs to do today. That meant driving > > > > > > with aircon struggling, so much so that I burnt my hand getting back in > > > > > > after an hr and 30 on the steering wheel, also the safety belt buckle was > > > > > > just to hard to fasten. There is no sign of a good storm to cool things > > > > > > down. > > > > > > > > > > 37C? What does that come to in real temperature (F)? > > > > > > > > C = 5/9(F-32) so... which works out to roughly 100F > > > > > > > > David Aikema > > > > > > That's one thing about us rude colonials we still use the mother country's > > > measuring system so we don't have to remember all those complicated math > > > formulas. > > > >Too bad we blew it back in the late 70's, early 80's when we were > > *supposed* to move over to the metric system. Base-10 is FAR better a > > measurement scale than Base-the-kings-feet and other arbitrary scales. > > Metric is just as arbitrary as a king's foot being 12 inches long rather than 10 and > 36 inches from tip of his nose to finger tips. In the universe there's nothing more > arbitrary than the circumference of the Earth or boiling and freezing point of pure > water at one standard Earth atmosphere. Yeah, but how do you start from scratch unless you happen to have the king's body laying around somewhere. At least with a *water* standard, your referance is available in abundance on the vast majority of the planet. There was only ONE king and he's pretty rotted away by now so we can't really be sure that our measurement system is even in calibration anymore... ;-) We can recalibrate against a water standard at anytime. --- Jay "Those that sacrifice essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin (1759) ++ | Jay Nugent [EMAIL PROTECTED](734)971-1076(734)971-4529/Fax| | Nugent Telecommunications [www.nuge.com] (734)649-0850/Cell | | Internet Consulting/Linux SysAdmin/Engineering & Design/ISP Reseller | | ISP Monitoring [www.ispmonitor.net] ISP & Modem Performance Monitoring | | Web-Pegasus[www.webpegasus.com] Web Hosting/DNS Hosting/Shell Accts| | LinuxNIC, Inc. [www.linuxnic.net] Registrar of the .linux TLD| ++ 11:00pm up 22 days, 19:44, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
On December 22, 2001 07:54 pm, Lee wrote: > >Too bad we blew it back in the late 70's, early 80's when we were > > *supposed* to move over to the metric system. Base-10 is FAR better a > > measurement scale than Base-the-kings-feet and other arbitrary scales. > > Metric is just as arbitrary as a king's foot being 12 inches long rather > than 10 and 36 inches from tip of his nose to finger tips. In the universe > there's nothing more arbitrary than the circumference of the Earth or > boiling and freezing point of pure water at one standard Earth atmosphere. That would be fine if you stuck to inches all the time but: 12 inches = 1 foot 3 feet = 1 yard yards = 1 mile then for volumes teaspoons, tablespoons, cups, pints, quarts, gallons, etc. In metric: its all in the prefixes ... you don't need to memorize whole new things all the time each prefix is related to the others by multiples of 10 David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: Re: Ok... so its a stupid question
This initally didn't seem to make it through so I'm attempting to repost. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Ok... so its a stupid question Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:14:33 -0800 From: David Aikema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On December 21, 2001 08:20 pm, Ted Ozolins wrote: > On Friday 21 December 2001 06:41 pm, Tim Wunder wrote: > > Previously, David Aikema chose to write: > > > 2. Would an optical mouse get enough electro-juice via the serial port > > > to enable it to work... or are the ps2 and usb ports capable of > > > powering more demanding devices? > > Why not just get an USB adapter card and be done with it? The people owning this computer aren't really technology enthusiasts they just don't want to upgrade. I lent them an old serial mouse which was in perfect working order and they've been using that for the past month or so (somehow that mouse has always slipped my mind). The machine in question is a cyrix p150+ w/ 16 megs ram running windows 95 on a 1 gig or smaller hard drive the usb adaptor would almost be worth as much as the entire machine from the looks of things. David Aikema --- Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients: Recipient address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reason: Remote SMTP server has rejected address Diagnostic code: smtp;530 5.7.1 Relaying not allowed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remote system: dns;10.0.120.44 (TCP|10.0.120.198|55242|10.0.120.44|25) (pd5mq1so.prod.shaw.ca -- Server ESMTP [iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 [built May 7 2001]]) Hmn... I know Bill Day and at least one other person appeared to be having similar problems the other day... David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
Jay Nugent wrote: > Greetings, > > On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Lee wrote: > > > David Aikema wrote: > > > > > On December 22, 2001 06:51 pm, Lee wrote: > > > > > It got to 37C about 1.30 and is still 30C at the moment. Fans do little > > > > > to cool one down and I had 3 travel jobs to do today. That meant driving > > > > > with aircon struggling, so much so that I burnt my hand getting back in > > > > > after an hr and 30 on the steering wheel, also the safety belt buckle was > > > > > just to hard to fasten. There is no sign of a good storm to cool things > > > > > down. > > > > > > > > 37C? What does that come to in real temperature (F)? > > > > > > C = 5/9(F-32) so... which works out to roughly 100F > > > > > > David Aikema > > > > That's one thing about us rude colonials we still use the mother country's > > measuring system so we don't have to remember all those complicated math > > formulas. > >Too bad we blew it back in the late 70's, early 80's when we were > *supposed* to move over to the metric system. Base-10 is FAR better a > measurement scale than Base-the-kings-feet and other arbitrary scales. Metric is just as arbitrary as a king's foot being 12 inches long rather than 10 and 36 inches from tip of his nose to finger tips. In the universe there's nothing more arbitrary than the circumference of the Earth or boiling and freezing point of pure water at one standard Earth atmosphere. > > > 0c = pure water freezes 32f >100c = pure water boils (at sea level) 212f > > 1g = 1cc pure water (in liquid state) > > 1calorie = raise 1cc pure water 1c in 1minute > >Dang! Nice how dimensional measurements and mass and temperature all > relate to one another like > > > > "Those that sacrifice essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety > deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin (1759) > ++ > | Jay Nugent [EMAIL PROTECTED](734)971-1076(734)971-4529/Fax| > | Nugent Telecommunications [www.nuge.com] (734)649-0850/Cell | > | Internet Consulting/Linux SysAdmin/Engineering & Design/ISP Reseller | > | ISP Monitoring [www.ispmonitor.net] ISP & Modem Performance Monitoring | > | Web-Pegasus[www.webpegasus.com] Web Hosting/DNS Hosting/Shell Accts| > | LinuxNIC, Inc. [www.linuxnic.net] Registrar of the .linux TLD| > ++ > 10:00pm up 22 days, 18:44, 7 users, load average: 0.05, 0.01, 0.00 > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
On December 22, 2001 07:37 pm, Jay Nugent wrote: One thing that was nice about a Canadian high school education was using the metric system 98% of the time. Of course, now in university, it's about 50/50 I've begun to realize what a pain imperial conversions are as opposed to the base-10 conversions of the metric system. David Aikema > > That's one thing about us rude colonials we still use the mother > > country's measuring system so we don't have to remember all those > > complicated math formulas. > >Too bad we blew it back in the late 70's, early 80's when we were > *supposed* to move over to the metric system. Base-10 is FAR better a > measurement scale than Base-the-kings-feet and other arbitrary scales. > > 0c = pure water freezes 32f >100c = pure water boils (at sea level) 212f > > 1g = 1cc pure water (in liquid state) > > 1calorie = raise 1cc pure water 1c in 1minute > >Dang! Nice how dimensional measurements and mass and temperature all > relate to one another like that :-) ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:37:43 -0500 (EST) Jay Nugent wrote: > 0c = pure water freezes 32f >100c = pure water boils (at sea level) 212f > But body temperature is 100 F (well, almost. Farenheit ran a little hot!), and when you mix your salt and ice to freeze ice-cream, it gets down to 0 F. Those are much more important temperature landmarks! 8-) BTW - here it got up to 74 F today, and is currently 66 F. Seems a nice compromise between frying and snow. -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
Greetings, On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Lee wrote: > David Aikema wrote: > > > On December 22, 2001 06:51 pm, Lee wrote: > > > > It got to 37C about 1.30 and is still 30C at the moment. Fans do little > > > > to cool one down and I had 3 travel jobs to do today. That meant driving > > > > with aircon struggling, so much so that I burnt my hand getting back in > > > > after an hr and 30 on the steering wheel, also the safety belt buckle was > > > > just to hard to fasten. There is no sign of a good storm to cool things > > > > down. > > > > > > 37C? What does that come to in real temperature (F)? > > > > C = 5/9(F-32) so... which works out to roughly 100F > > > > David Aikema > > That's one thing about us rude colonials we still use the mother country's > measuring system so we don't have to remember all those complicated math > formulas. Too bad we blew it back in the late 70's, early 80's when we were *supposed* to move over to the metric system. Base-10 is FAR better a measurement scale than Base-the-kings-feet and other arbitrary scales. 0c = pure water freezes 32f 100c = pure water boils (at sea level) 212f 1g = 1cc pure water (in liquid state) 1calorie = raise 1cc pure water 1c in 1minute Dang! Nice how dimensional measurements and mass and temperature all relate to one another like that :-) --- Jay "Those that sacrifice essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin (1759) ++ | Jay Nugent [EMAIL PROTECTED](734)971-1076(734)971-4529/Fax| | Nugent Telecommunications [www.nuge.com] (734)649-0850/Cell | | Internet Consulting/Linux SysAdmin/Engineering & Design/ISP Reseller | | ISP Monitoring [www.ispmonitor.net] ISP & Modem Performance Monitoring | | Web-Pegasus[www.webpegasus.com] Web Hosting/DNS Hosting/Shell Accts| | LinuxNIC, Inc. [www.linuxnic.net] Registrar of the .linux TLD| ++ 10:00pm up 22 days, 18:44, 7 users, load average: 0.05, 0.01, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hot summer days
On Saturday 22 Dec 2001 09:16, Keith Antoine wrote: > What I forgot to say and was the point is that I cannot format floppies > they all error out and the machines is HOT, so what is the max temp for > Atlon and hd's in C ? Athlons' top temperature (internal) is 90something. Mine's running at 51.3 at the moment - it goes up to about 57 when I'm compiling. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ). Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) for i586 Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Uptime 1 day 14 hours 59 minutes. -- ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
David Aikema wrote: > On December 22, 2001 06:51 pm, Lee wrote: > > Keith Antoine wrote: > > > Here I am sitting with towel round waist at 6.20pm after coming out of > > > shower for the 4th time today, also having had the machine shut down 4 > > > times also. > > > > > > It got to 37C about 1.30 and is still 30C at the moment. Fans do little > > > to cool one down and I had 3 travel jobs to do today. That meant driving > > > with aircon struggling, so much so that I burnt my hand getting back in > > > after an hr and 30 on the steering wheel, also the safety belt buckle was > > > just to hard to fasten. There is no sign of a good storm to cool things > > > down. > > > > 37C? What does that come to in real temperature (F)? > > C = 5/9(F-32) so... which works out to roughly 100F > > David Aikema That's one thing about us rude colonials we still use the mother country's measuring system so we don't have to remember all those complicated math formulas. Lee > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows98: Command prompt?
You shouldn't have to go into MSDOS to load XP. The thing should load directly from cdrom. Unless the thing is being idoitic and refuses to load because the hd already has an OS (if you can call it that) on it that can't be upgraded by the new OS. If so use the Win install disk to format the hd, or hit F6 or F8 (varies for different boxes) when the bios have finished booting but before Windoze boots. That should take you into a menu that will let you order up C prompt. Type in C: format c: and at the prompt type y for you don't mind that the WIN OS is wiped away. Then the thing should load. Or you can use MSDOS by accessing the start menu and under "programs" MSDOS should be there it's not an option. If not, and Windoze XP needs to load through MSDOS you can do what I had to do with a Win 2000 that wouldn't load except through MSDOS, reload the WIN 98 without worrying about pnp or drivers for the hardware. After install access MSDOS through the start - program menu. Joel Hammer wrote: > A bit OT but: > Does anyone know how to get a MSDOS prompt on a window98 computer which > doesn't list that option anywhere? > My son needs to backup everything from his new laptop which has windows98. > It would be easiest just to run ftp from the command line but we can't find a way to >get an > MSDOS prompt on his fancy HP powerful laptop computer. The fancy windows > GUI ftp client doesn't have a way to select all files at the same time. > I know, I know, dump windows, but he has to use windows at school. > Everytime I work with windows I am astounded by what an awful operating > system it is but its what we have to work with. > He is tired of windows98 crashing several times per day. > So, he is going to install XP professional ($20 [no upgrade] from his school > bookstore.) I may be tempted at that price. > Joel > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
hot summer days
What I forgot to say and was the point is that I cannot format floppies they all error out and the machines is HOT, so what is the max temp for Atlon and hd's in C ? -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
On December 22, 2001 06:51 pm, Lee wrote: > Keith Antoine wrote: > > Here I am sitting with towel round waist at 6.20pm after coming out of > > shower for the 4th time today, also having had the machine shut down 4 > > times also. > > > > It got to 37C about 1.30 and is still 30C at the moment. Fans do little > > to cool one down and I had 3 travel jobs to do today. That meant driving > > with aircon struggling, so much so that I burnt my hand getting back in > > after an hr and 30 on the steering wheel, also the safety belt buckle was > > just to hard to fasten. There is no sign of a good storm to cool things > > down. > > 37C? What does that come to in real temperature (F)? C = 5/9(F-32) so... which works out to roughly 100F David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
Keith Antoine wrote: > Here I am sitting with towel round waist at 6.20pm after coming out of > shower for the 4th time today, also having had the machine shut down 4 times > also. > > It got to 37C about 1.30 and is still 30C at the moment. Fans do little to > cool one down and I had 3 travel jobs to do today. That meant driving with > aircon struggling, so much so that I burnt my hand getting back in after an > hr and 30 on the steering wheel, also the safety belt buckle was just to hard > to fasten. There is no sign of a good storm to cool things down. > 37C? What does that come to in real temperature (F)? ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: christmas and its HOT!
Oh well, I went skiing today, threw a few snowballs, then hit the hot tub. Oh, did I mention a glass of good sangiovese. Just another boring winter day. On Saturday 22 December 2001 08:28, Keith Antoine wrote: > Here I am sitting with towel round waist at 6.20pm after coming out of > shower for the 4th time today, also having had the machine shut down 4 > times also. > -- Ronnie == Each days terror almost a form of boredom madmen at the wheel and stepping on the gas and the brakes no good and each day one, sometimes two, morning glories faultless, blue, blue sometimes flecked with magenta each lit from within with the first sunlight -- Denise Levertov -- ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re: Windows98: Command prompt?
I thought this was a linux list... Go figure. Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
christmas and its HOT!
Here I am sitting with towel round waist at 6.20pm after coming out of shower for the 4th time today, also having had the machine shut down 4 times also. It got to 37C about 1.30 and is still 30C at the moment. Fans do little to cool one down and I had 3 travel jobs to do today. That meant driving with aircon struggling, so much so that I burnt my hand getting back in after an hr and 30 on the steering wheel, also the safety belt buckle was just to hard to fasten. There is no sign of a good storm to cool things down. last night was 28C lowest and I think the humidity lowest was 75% and topping off at 96%, who can tell the difference. I have plenty to do but the body and brain are drained, this weather certainly saps the will to work. Looks as if we might be doing the seafood, Prawns, crab, moreton bay bugs etc dance for xmas day on the beach, i'll just clear the frige of food and drink and sit in there. Merry Xmas to all and the very best wishes to all fro the New year. Ithas to be better than the last one dosen't it ?? -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows98: Command prompt?
Joel Hammer babbled on about: > A bit OT but: > Does anyone know how to get a MSDOS prompt on a window98 computer which > doesn't list that option anywhere? Start->Run type 'dosprmpt' -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net printk(KERN_ERR "msp3400: chip reset failed, penguin on i2c bus?\n"); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/msp3400.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re: Windows98: Command prompt?
Joel Hammer babbled on about: > nonMS company within just a few weeks of release. And, this bug involves > more than just XP. Windows ME is also vulnerable, if UPnP is enabled. That > is to say, this bug has been around since the release of Windows ME, I > guess. as a MS beta-tester, I'm telling you that this isn't true. UPnP was something added to ME after it was released by an update on 'Windows Update'. we bitched about it at the time (cause it installed under another patch without telling you).. but yes, all XP out of the box, and all other win 9x that has UPnP installed. also, if the XP machine is used to share files or printers, it asks you to make a disk to take to all the clients. this disk install UPnP without telling you... -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net Every nonzero finite dimensional inner product space has an orthonormal basis. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows98: Command prompt?
Joel: Isn't the command prompt simply "command.com?" Do a search for that filename, or better yet, go to Start=>Run and in the window type command.com and hit . I can't try that here because I have only Windows XP available, where the command prompt is a menu item under Start=>Programs=>Accesories=>MSDOS Prompt (which, come to think of it, that might not be a bad place to look on Win 98). HTH Good luck, Glenn Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user # 135678 since 1994 - Original Message - From: "Joel Hammer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 8:02 AM Subject: Windows98: Command prompt? > A bit OT but: > Does anyone know how to get a MSDOS prompt on a window98 computer which > doesn't list that option anywhere? > My son needs to backup everything from his new laptop which has windows98. > It would be easiest just to run ftp from the command line but we can't find a way to get an > MSDOS prompt on his fancy HP powerful laptop computer. The fancy windows > GUI ftp client doesn't have a way to select all files at the same time. > I know, I know, dump windows, but he has to use windows at school. > Everytime I work with windows I am astounded by what an awful operating > system it is but its what we have to work with. > He is tired of windows98 crashing several times per day. > So, he is going to install XP professional ($20 [no upgrade] from his school > bookstore.) I may be tempted at that price. > Joel > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Is Kylix cursed?
On December 22, 2001 05:21 am, James McDonald wrote: > Don't you have to do a > ./configure --path-to-libs-option=/where/that/*.so/file/is to get it to > find the right libs? I installed a package directly from the SuSE cds and that version wouldn't work... a package from there should clear up such problems I'd think. David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows98: Command prompt?
Joel: On my 98se, either: Click on the "START" button (lower left corner) Click on "Programs" (near the top of the pop-up list) Click on "MS-DOS prompt" (on the new slide-out list) To get back to Windoze, type EXIT at the DOS prompt (and hit enter) Else Click on the *Start" button (same place) Click on the "Shut Down" (at the bottom of the pop-up list) When the "Shut Down" window appears, Click on the "Restart on MS-DOS mode" button Again, just type EXIT at the MS-DOS prompt to return to the usual (and that is the blue screen of death, too often.) Jer >A bit OT but: >Does anyone know how to get a MSDOS prompt on a window98 computer which >doesn't list that option anywhere? >My son needs to backup everything from his new laptop which has windows98. >It would be easiest just to run ftp from the command line but we can't >find a way to get an >MSDOS prompt on his fancy HP powerful laptop computer. The fancy windows >GUI ftp client doesn't have a way to select all files at the same time. >I know, I know, dump windows, but he has to use windows at school. >Everytime I work with windows I am astounded by what an awful operating >system it is but its what we have to work with. >He is tired of windows98 crashing several times per day. >So, he is going to install XP professional ($20 [no upgrade] from his school >bookstore.) I may be tempted at that price. >Joel > >___ >Linux-users mailing list >Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/01
Re: Windows98: Command prompt?
Yes. We did install the patch immediately after installing XP. We are behind a firewall and the XP machine is masqueraded. So I don't believe we were vulnerable for the 10 minutes or so between installing XP and installing the patch. XP actually installed well. It did stall, but opening and closing the CDrom fixed that, amazingly enuf. Of course, we were immediately on the internet after that. I agree that MS$ again looks really bad. After all, it was found by a small nonMS company within just a few weeks of release. And, this bug involves more than just XP. Windows ME is also vulnerable, if UPnP is enabled. That is to say, this bug has been around since the release of Windows ME, I guess. Also, any system which has installed the universal Plug & Play program is vulnerable. I don't believe that was emphasized in the media. What is interesting is that several weeks (I believe) elapsed between the discovery of the vulnerability and the announcement of the patch. You would think they would have just told everybody to block the ports used by UPnP or turn off UPnP until the patch was out. This gave the Bad Guys several weeks to act, if, by chance, the Bad Guys also knew about this problem. I still think that the Real Bad Guys, with budgets of millions of dollars, likely have XP already targeted. When they pull the trigger is anybody's guess. For all we know, they have pulled the trigger. All that being said, the concept of universal plug and play looks like it would be great, if it worked. Visit MS if you'd like more detail about this bug: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-059.asp Joel On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 04:58:49PM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: > On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 10:02:12 -0500 > Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: > > > A bit OT but: > [snip] > > He is tired of windows98 crashing several times per day. > > So, he is going to install XP professional ($20 [no upgrade] from his > school > > bookstore.) I may be tempted at that price. > > Joel > > Please check out the patches. For anyone anywhere to take complete > control of your XP machine, all you have to do is ... connect to the > Internet. > > I'm sorry, this is frighteningly stupid -- even for M$. Imagine > _millions_ of zombies in the hands of a 13 year old who wants to DDOS > everyone off the Internet. > > Ciao, > > David A. Bandel > -- > Focus on the dream, not the competition. > -- Nemesis Racing Team motto > Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Thank You
On Friday 21 December 2001 09:54 am,Wade Barocsi wrote: > > Thanks and Happy Holidays, > > Wade Barocsi, BC-HIS > Precision Hearing Specialists > Stratford, CT To you, too! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows98: Command prompt?
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 10:02:12 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: > A bit OT but: [snip] > He is tired of windows98 crashing several times per day. > So, he is going to install XP professional ($20 [no upgrade] from his school > bookstore.) I may be tempted at that price. > Joel Please check out the patches. For anyone anywhere to take complete control of your XP machine, all you have to do is ... connect to the Internet. I'm sorry, this is frighteningly stupid -- even for M$. Imagine _millions_ of zombies in the hands of a 13 year old who wants to DDOS everyone off the Internet. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WP8 envelope question
Do you really think this is worth a SxS? Joel > On Dec 21 Joel Hammer was heard saying: > > ->Well, I finally solved this vexing problem, without having to tinker with > ->the postscript code. > ->To move the text on the envelope over to the right side of the printer, in > ->the envelope definition, move the text up with the TOP adjustment 4.375 inches. > ->Joel > > > *** A petit SxS maybe!? > > Cheers, > Zoran. > -- > "Software is like sex, It's better when it's Free..." > -- Linus Torvalds > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
windows heads-up...
I just left work after a spending an hour or so making some windows clients behave. What I found was rather eye-opening... Windows clients effected; win95, 98 and one w2k. Symptom... machines were crawling like typical microsoft slugs... only worse. One win98 client popped up with "out of resources", the lan was choked with traffic from these effected machines. Something was trying like hell to get past the firewall... to the outside. Cure... during a shutdown on a win98 client, a popup displayed something to the effect "win95 RPC, Wmsg not responding". After a quick browse on the inet... I found this... "simply click open add/remove applications and remove "WEB ENHANCER"". All machines are back to normal, lan is quiet... Postmortem... I haven't a clue as I am not a windows guru. However, a user has had the courage to step forward and admitted to downloading the WEB ENHANCER off the inet thinking it would speed up webpage fetching... It's probably what everyone else did too... Whatever this thing is, it doesn't behave right. Keep yer' eyes open. ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux 4:25pm up 3 days, 21:34, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Windows98: Command prompt?
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 10:02:12 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A bit OT but: > Does anyone know how to get a MSDOS prompt on a window98 computer > which doesn't list that option anywhere? I'm not quite sure what you mean 'doesn't list that option anywhere'? Two methods: 1) start -> programs - > look for MSDOS in the programs list 2) start -> run -> enter the word 'command' -> hit enter -- Collins Richey Denver Area - 22DEC2001 - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Is Kylix cursed?
Don't you have to do a ./configure --path-to-libs-option=/where/that/*.so/file/is to get it to find the right libs? cheers James - Original Message - From: "Peter Ruskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 9:17 AM Subject: Re: Is Kylix cursed? > On Friday 21 Dec 2001 19:38, David Aikema wrote: > > Thus far any attempts to play with Kylix have caused me nothing but > > problems when running Mandrake 8.1 the past couple months Kylix > > worked the first time I loaded it but ever since then kept > > prompting me to authorize it (I already had). I tried entering the > > authorization key a second time but that didn't do anything to > > alleviate my problems (I got a 'thanks for authorizing' and then the > > program never got beyond its splash screen). I tried wiping out my > > .kylix directory just in case any of the configuration files in there > > had gotten wrecked but that didn't really have any positive effects (it > > would then hang on 'generating font matrix'... I left it in that state > > for at least an hour). > > > > Now, I recently installed Suse... and grabbed the Kylix OE off the > > install cds, thinking as this was packaged for the distribution it > > shouldn't cause me any problems (and any dependencies it might require > > would be handled)... but once again I was wrong. > > Now all I'm getting errors about not being able to find the > > configuration files when launching the start script (how am I supposed > > to create them other than to run the startup script?) and also getting > > errors with a bunch of libs. I added /opt/kylix/bin to /etc/ld.so.conf > > and ran ldconfig (don't ask me why they have the libraries in bin > > instead of in lib...). > > > > Now, when I try to launch Kylix directly I get the following error: > > > > david:/opt/kylix/bin # ./Kylix > > ./Kylix: error while loading shared libraries: bpldesignhooks.so.6: > > cannot open > > shared object file: No such file or directory > > david:/opt/kylix/bin # ll bpldesignhooks.so.6 > > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 36 Dec 21 08:39 > > bpldesignhooks.so.6 -> /opt/kylix/bin/bpldesignhooks.so.6.0 > > david:/opt/kylix/bin # ll bpldesignhooks.so.6.0 > > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 8468 Jul 23 11:22 > > bpldesignhooks.so.6.0 > > > > Anyone have any suggestions? I've read the preinstall, readme, install > > help files and none of them have really offered any help. > > > > David Aikema > > Same here... > [22:11 peter@penguin:peter]$ /usr/local/kylix/bin/startkylix > /usr/local/kylix/bin/Kylix: error while loading shared libraries: > libqtintf.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > Used to work (sort of) OK. It seems to only like early Qt2. I've > stopped trying to use it. It's a crying shame - I really like Delphi so > I was looking forward to its linux counterpart. > > -- > Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. > Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ). > Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) for i586 > Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. > KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Uptime 9 hours 57 minutes. > -- > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Is Kylix cursed?
On Saturday 22 Dec 2001 00:42, David Aikema wrote: > On December 21, 2001 04:35 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: > > Version 1.0 - the free one - too cut-down to be of much use to me > > anyway. No database controls. > > Apparently there are some free database controls around for kylix > there was word of them in the newgroups at least. I can't remember > quite what they're called though... freexcl or something > > There does appear to be an 'open edition' of Kylix 2 as well... > although it does have the word trial in the url for it. > http://www.borland.com/kylix/tryitnow.html > > David Aikema Thanks for the pointer, David. I'm downloading kylix2_open.tar.gz right now. I hope it's better than 1.0. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ). Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) for i586 Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Uptime 13 hours 38 minutes. -- ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Holiday cheer!
On Friday 21 December 2001 22:21, you wrote: > May you each and all enjoy a refreshing Holiday and abundant New Year. > Tom BAH! HUMBUG! ;-) -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Experience is like a comb, that Life gives you - AFTER all your hair has fallen out! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Windows98: Command prompt?
A bit OT but: Does anyone know how to get a MSDOS prompt on a window98 computer which doesn't list that option anywhere? My son needs to backup everything from his new laptop which has windows98. It would be easiest just to run ftp from the command line but we can't find a way to get an MSDOS prompt on his fancy HP powerful laptop computer. The fancy windows GUI ftp client doesn't have a way to select all files at the same time. I know, I know, dump windows, but he has to use windows at school. Everytime I work with windows I am astounded by what an awful operating system it is but its what we have to work with. He is tired of windows98 crashing several times per day. So, he is going to install XP professional ($20 [no upgrade] from his school bookstore.) I may be tempted at that price. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WP8 envelope question
On Dec 21 Joel Hammer was heard saying: ->Well, I finally solved this vexing problem, without having to tinker with ->the postscript code. ->To move the text on the envelope over to the right side of the printer, in ->the envelope definition, move the text up with the TOP adjustment 4.375 inches. ->Joel *** A petit SxS maybe!? Cheers, Zoran. -- "Software is like sex, It's better when it's Free..." -- Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
