Re: ssh and how do you do things
Keith Antoine wrote: snip I ssh in and then cd to /home/webroot/eastwind/docs; at this point i can call scp, but from that point I have had no success. What do I use in the user@host: position my login on the remote machine and my hostname here or what ? Sorry I have no idea what user@host: stands for. Everytime I enter anything all I get is: kantoine@univac:/home/webroot/eastwind/docs$ scp -r kantoine@CPE-203-45-140-190:/photos/ usage: scp [-pqrvC46] [-S ssh] [-P port] [-c cipher] [-i identity] f1 f2; or: scp [options] f1 ... fn directory Until recently I have always used ftp to get to the site so ssh is a closed book and there are NO examples out there to explain what to do. Howto and man are useless. Lastly I am a h/w man not a software guy. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Maybe an easier method for you (you be the judge) is to (on your local machine) do it like this: 1. cd to the directory of the files you want to transfer e.g. cd /home/kantoine/pics 2. scp yourfilenamehere xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:/home/webroot/eastwind/docs (substitute the real file name for yourfilenamehere and the server's ip address for the xxx's. You should get a login prompt to enter your username password, then you'll see the transfer progress. 3. Remember that you invoke scp from the machine you want to transfer FROM not the machine you're transferring TO. HTH, -- Andrew Mathews 7:45pm up 17 days, 10:22, 7 users, load average: 1.12, 1.08, 1.04 Oh Dad! We're ALL Devo! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Wierd mail problem...
David A. Bandel wrote: snip I bet even the 20Gb /var they now have will fill (largest disk drive I could get on short notice). That's up from the 9Gb one I put on the first time (their original install was done by their first administrator who only put a 300Mb /var filesystem in on a dedicated e-mail server with 100+ engineers using it). Ciao, David A. Bandel snip Sounds similar to what I inherited at my current job. 1300+ users on a 2.1G drive running Post.Office on AIX. First thing I did was cd /var/spool/mailbox (Post.Office's default directory) find . -mtime +30 | xargs rm -f Regained almost a gig of space. If people hadn't pulled mail for a month, it wasn't *that* important. I've just finished another machine to replace it with an 18G drive just for /var/spool/mailbox, mirroring both rootvg and mailvg volume groups. This will hopefully last until this summer when it will be replaced with a linux/sendmail machine. -- Andrew Mathews 7:40pm up 14 days, 10:17, 7 users, load average: 1.04, 1.05, 1.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: relaying denied
toylet.linuxism[¤pª±·N] wrote: Is this an attempt to use my server to spam others? Jan 28 19:03:45 server sendmail[17267]: g0SB3hN17267: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=ip68-0-149-7.tc.ph.cox.net [68.0.149.7], reject=550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying denied snip Unless it was a known host to you then I'd say yes. -- Andrew Mathews 9:01am up 5 days, 17:35, 4 users, load average: 1.01, 1.02, 1.00 BOFH excuse #224: Jan 9 16:41:27 huber su: 'su root' succeeded for on /dev/pts/1 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: [ot] seti
Chang[linuxism] wrote: can your clients talk to seti headquarter? -- snip From the Seti page at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ - January 24, 2002 - The data server is currently overloaded. Many users are unable to connect to send/receive data. We are working on it - sorry for the inconveneince. -- Andrew Mathews 10:42am up 19:16, 4 users, load average: 2.02, 2.04, 2.01 One man's constant is another man's variable. -- A.J. Perlis ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?
Douglas J Hunley wrote: Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone on these lists getting together? If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together during Summer 2003. What does everyone think? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 snip Doug, Would there be any entertainment of an installfest to be a part of this? The opportunity to have all that knowledge in one place might be a great opportunity to help further the cause (and maybe generate some revenue to offset expenses!) -- Andrew Mathews 12:02pm up 10 days, 18:42, 3 users, load average: 2.20, 2.08, 2.18 I know th'MAMBO!! I have a TWO-TONE CHEMISTRY SET!! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Problem Identified
Tyler Regas wrote: Is someone from this list in the ABQ area? snip Yes, a couple of us at least. -- Andrew Mathews 2:40pm up 5:19, 3 users, load average: 1.04, 1.11, 1.08 Facts, apart from their relationships, are like labels on empty bottles. -- Sven Italla ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Caldera on Dell Latitude
Lavinius Romio Petru wrote: The only MS product use is win2k on a Dell Latitude PII 400 but now I have made the decision to install Linux on this as well so I will be 100% Linux user. Now here are a few questions. 1. Has anyone installed linux on one of these things? Yes, and it's quite painless. 2. Would Caldera or Debian be a better choice? I have OpenServer on a few servers but at home I use slackware. Caldera works great, but so do most other current distros. 3. I have a Xircom CreditCard Ethernet/56k combo, am I likely to run into problems? Video card is NeoMagic MagicGraph256AV, NeoMagic MagicMedia256AV sound and smc IR port. I use a Xircom RealPorts card which both nic and modem work perfectly. Can't say about the CreditCard model though. See the SxS under Laptops -- Latitude as to the NM256 card. It works fine, just a little config needed. 4. I use my Nokia 6210 to update the address book and as a modem while I'm on the road, will this still work? Don't know. Any help will be greately apreciated Regards, Lavinius Romio Petru (Register Linux user # 257120) Network Administrator Cell 041212-5332 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rom-tech.net -- Andrew Mathews 7:55am up 14 days, 14:51, 4 users, load average: 1.02, 1.03, 1.05 A public debt is a kind of anchor in the storm; but if the anchor be too heavy for the vessel, she will be sunk by that very weight which was intended for her preservation. -- Colton ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: No mail
Glenn Williams wrote: I have had NO mail from the list during the past 72 hours. Will someone please drop a note to me off-list, if this message appears in the linux-users mail (and explain to me what the hell's going on, if possible)? TIA Regards, Glenn Glenn, If you're reading the archives you'll see that your mail is being bounced by cybermesa. Doug and I have both tried to reach you unsuccessfully to notify you of this. If you're not reading the archive, well.we still can't contact you. -- Andrew Mathews 2:15pm up 14 days, 21:11, 4 users, load average: 1.08, 1.04, 1.00 He who slings mud generally loses ground. -- Adlai Stevenson ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fwd: Returned mail: see transcript for details
Andrew Mathews wrote: Douglas J Hunley wrote: can someone get the below info to Glen Williams? He wondered why he wasn't getting email from the list. When I replied, it bounced. Anyone able to reach him? snip I'll give him a call since he's relatively close to me. -- snip I can't reach him and I get the same error when sending to him. Seems Cybermesa is having a problem with it. -- Andrew Mathews 1:55pm up 13 days, 20:51, 4 users, load average: 1.00, 1.02, 1.00 You'll wish that you had done some of the hard things when they were easier to do. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: network/ limited number of ips
Schmeits, Roger wrote: Got a question... We have a student housing building that has about 40 students. We have been wanting to wire the building but the cost has always stopped us ($4). I have been playing with the idea of using 5 or 6 Cisco aironet 350 access points and have the students purchase a PCI wireless card for their machine. For our Internet connection we are in the process of contacting Qwest for a business line. At this time I do not know at the details for a Internet connection. Mainly how many IP's we would get, cost, bandwidth, etc. Knowing all of that - How can a person setup a machine linux running to act as a NAT (???)/DHCP server when you have only been assigned anywhere from one to six IP's addresses? How does one tackles such a situation? Or better yet which HOW-TO's to I read? Roger Way, way too much overkill. You certainly don't need 6 access points, especially at over a grand each for Cisco. Besides, an access point opens your network up to anyone scanning for them. Alternative: Buy 6 Maxtech Mini-AP's which are simply external clients for p.c.'s, give them all a unique ESSID if you want precise control, patch each one into your physical network and use a single linux box to masquerade them to the internet using a single public ip address and an access list of internal ip's that you assign. If it's an ip address not allowed to be masqueraded, then nobody can steal services from you. A good reason to stay away from DHCP and use fixed addressing. 40 ip addresses should be a no brainer to administer. -- Andrew Mathews 1:37pm up 5 days, 20:17, 4 users, load average: 1.01, 1.02, 1.06 BOFH excuse #103: operators on strike due to broken coffee machine ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: reiserfs?
Ted Ozolins wrote: snip It is the default fs installed by Elx linux. In setting this distro up, trying to choose anything else sends you off to never-never land. I've downloaded 2.4.17 and reiserfs is blocked out. (there doesn't seem to be a way to select this option) I was sure that reiserfs was supported in the 2.4.XX kernels I guess I better do some more reading. -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Make sure that Code Maturity and Level Options is checked yes -- Andrew Mathews 12:22pm up 4:53, 4 users, load average: 1.06, 1.04, 1.00 In Pocataligo, Georgia, it is a violation for a woman over 200 pounds and attired in shorts to pilot or ride in an airplane. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: wireless recommendations
Schmeits, Roger wrote: I am finally breaking down and I'm getting a @Home DSL connection in my house. Would like to run an wireless access point and a wireless card om my laptop. Does anyone have any preferences to what vendor(s) work well or don't work well with Linux? Are there any Linux distros that have wireless complied into the kernel? Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users I've only used Lucent (Orinoco) or Cisco Aironet cards but both work well. I don't use an AP. Instead, I use a second wireless card with an external antenna on one of my servers and connect to it. I'm masquerading the entire network and I didn't see any point in paying 2-3 times the price for an AP when I can do the same thing with a second nic. -- Andrew Mathews 10:15am up 2:49, 2 users, load average: 1.21, 1.21, 1.16 BOFH excuse #152: My pony-tail hit the on/off switch on the power strip. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
Ted Ozolins wrote: I still can not log into webmin. I'll rpm -e webmin and re-install it and see if that fixes the beast. I can log into swat with no problems. I'm using Mozilla as the browser. Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. What port are you trying to connect to? Webmin (depending on the version) is usually at: http://localhost:1 or https://localhost:1000 (secure) -- Andrew Mathews 12:38pm up 5:12, 3 users, load average: 1.03, 1.15, 1.15 My doctorate's in Literature, but it seems like a pretty good pulse to me. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: we're on linuxlaunchpad.net!
DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: Linux StepByStep is a link under the 'Community Sites' section of http://linuxlaunchpad.net (which just went live within the past 72 hours). Kewl! -- Douglas J. Hunley snip Maybe I missed this while I was away for a while, but all the links to the mirror maintainers have been changed to @linux.nf.Did something exciting happen while I was gone? I did a quick fix to my own child2dn.html to correct this but it will go back again upon tonight's rsync. Shall I leave it alone for some reason? -- Andrew Mathews -- 7:50pm up 1:09, 3 users, load average: 1.17, 1.14, 1.03 -- There is a Massachusetts law requiring all dogs to have their hind legs tied during the month of April. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: we're on linuxlaunchpad.net!
Net Llama wrote: This was a feature that Doug added about 2 months ago. The new addresses merely forward to your previously provided email addy. You shouldn't have to fix anything with child2dn.html, as it should rsync over on its own. Only child2up.html is yours to edit. Which is a *good* thing too. Less to mess with. -- Andrew Mathews -- 8:25pm up 1:44, 3 users, load average: 1.22, 1.13, 1.05 -- No man is an island, but some of us are long peninsulas. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [TID] Re: new install init
Dave Anselmi wrote: snip Keith, if I have offended, I appologize. I was attempting a good-natured jest. As to my contributions, look at what I have posted. The volume will not match most on this list. If the quality is inadequate as well, I will gladly sign off. Dave snip None of us are judged by either volume or quality of posts. Participation is the only requrement here, and yours is still quite welcome. Believe me, you'd have no problem discerning it if it weren't. g -- Andrew Mathews -- 5:15pm up 2 days, 22:31, 3 users, load average: 1.14, 1.19, 1.11 -- Economics is extremely useful as a form of employment for economists. -- John Kenneth Galbraith ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Internet Connection
aong wrote: Hi, This is the first time I tried red hat. I was able to install 7.1 successfully. However, the problem I am encountering is connecting to the internet. I used kde as default and kppp to connect to the internet. I can sucessfully establish a connection with my isp but somehow can not ping anyone beyond myself. I know it is not the problem of the isp as everything work well when I use my caldera 3.1 Any clue as to what I did wrong on my red hat installation. I have never ventured into other distro except for caldera. Thanks aong ___ What does /etc/resolv.conf say? Your ISP's DNS servers have to be listed there or you won't have any name resolution. -- Andrew Mathews -- 10:55am up 8 days, 14:46, 6 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 0.93 -- Checkuary, n.: The thirteenth month of the year. Begins New Year's Day and ends when a person stops absentmindedly writing the old year on his checks. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Web Server Working?
Kurt Wall wrote: Can anyone out there hit my web site, http://www.kurwerks.com? Thanks, K -- I was born in a Hostess Cupcake factory before the sexual revolution! [root@andy ppp]# nslookup kurtwerks.com Server: ns1.newmex.com Address: 65.112.216.3 Non-authoritative answer: Name:kurtwerks.com Address: 24.183.213.227 [root@andy ppp]# ping www.kurtwerks.com PING kurtwerks.com (24.183.213.227): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 24.183.213.227: icmp_seq=0 ttl=240 time=7099.4 ms 64 bytes from 24.183.213.227: icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=6410.8 ms 64 bytes from 24.183.213.227: icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=5449.5 ms (slow dialup connection) Seems that connections over port 80 are refused. Other ports seem to be okay though. -- Andrew Mathews -- 10:50am up 5 days, 14:42, 6 users, load average: 1.02, 1.02, 1.00 -- Williams and Holland's Law: If enough data is collected, anything may be proven by statistical methods. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Volume Down?
Burns MacDonald wrote: Is it my imagination, or is the volume on this list way down over what it was just a month or two ago? Did we lose a bunch or people that never re-subbed during the hardware failure crisis? -- burns Just re-subscribed today myself. Had to be off for a couple weeks due to relocation. -- Andrew Mathews -- 8:50pm up 3 days, 11:06, 5 users, load average: 1.16, 1.03, 1.01 -- ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Cupdate kernel left system unbootable
All- On one of my Caldera 3.1 workstations I ran the Caldera System Update for the 2.4 kernel upgrades and upon reboot the system hangs when mounting /boot which is ext2. The other partitions are all reiserfs. Booting from the rescue disk has the same results. No errors, just stops at: mounting /boot on /dev/sdb2. All drives are perfectly functional for SCSI diagnostics and a small partition for Win98 which boots fine from sdb4. Was the update and boot failure coincidence or has anyone else seen this? -- Andrew Mathews 6:55pm up 1:37, 3 users, load average: 1.02, 1.02, 1.00 Bachelors' wives and old maids' children are always perfect. -- Nicolas Chamfort ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Cupdate kernel left system unbootable
Net Llama wrote: --- Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All- On one of my Caldera 3.1 workstations I ran the Caldera System Update for the 2.4 kernel upgrades and upon reboot the system hangs when mounting /boot which is ext2. The other partitions are all reiserfs. Booting from the rescue disk has the same results. No errors, just stops at: mounting /boot on /dev/sdb2. All drives are perfectly functional for SCSI diagnostics and a small partition for Win98 which boots fine from sdb4. Was the update and boot failure coincidence or has anyone else seen this? Perhaps it needs or is attempting a fsck? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what I thought at first but after 30 minutes with no disk activity it seemed improbable. Right now I'd *love* to be able to fsck it. -- Andrew Mathews 7:35pm up 2:17, 3 users, load average: 1.00, 1.05, 1.06 Experience is a good teacher, but she sends in terrific bills. -- Minna Antrim, Naked Truth and Veiled Allusions ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux and Wireless Cable/DSL router/switch?
Susan Macchia wrote: Hi All, I am thinking of adding wireless capability to my home network. I was wondering if anyone has had experience with hooking a linux box to a wireless network. I have been looking at the Linksys Ehterfast Wireless AP Cable/DSL Router w/ 4 port switch (BEFW11S4) and it looks like it can only hook up to a PC using the USB port. So, does this mean I must use Linux Version 2.4 and up? Any insights are greatly appreciated. = _ Susan Macchia Can't comment on the Linksys other than I've read that they don't integrate well with 802.11b cards made by other manufacturers. I use a wireless LAN at home and it's comprised of Lucent Orinoco Silver cards and a MaxTech XLW-450 station adapter serving as an access point. I have 4 machines connecting to the MaxTech at 2Mbps which is less than the 11Mbps on most Access Points, but then again, I don't do a lot of file transfers internally, and the 2Mbps is still faster than the 1.544Mbps of a T-1. The MaxTech is plugged into my wired network and everything is then gatewayed through a Linux machine with one nic connected to the ethernet network and the second nic is another Lucent Orinoco connected to an outdoor antenna pointed at my NOC. You didn't say how you connect to your isp or if you're using a laptop or desktop machine so connecting two pc's versus connecting to the internet will have different needs. Remember a desktop will require an ISA or PCI card for the Orinoco to plug into. Cisco Aironet products are quite good, but have been a bit pricey. I avoid Nokia cards under Linux, as they're not as well supported. Once you've gone wireless, you won't want to go back as it's very convenient. The links Keith gave you are good resources for more info. For the MaxTech see: http://www.maxtech.com/html/xwl450.html For the Orinoco cards try: http://www2.warehouse.com/product.asp?pf%5Fid=DEC4137cat=networkingorigin=home2 -- Andrew Mathews 8:20pm up 1 day, 3:12, 3 users, load average: 1.09, 1.10, 1.09 I'm wet! I'm wild! ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ATT USB Ethernet device
Keith Antoine wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 03:02, you wrote: My apologies if this is in the archives, but they are down this morning (or inaccessible from here) and I can't find anything in the SxSs that relates. I was installing SuSE Linux 7.2 Pro on my dad's machine as a dual-boot with his Win98, just so he could compare the two OSs for himself. He was impressed with the ease of many things, including the fact that it automatically recognized his wheel mouse and worked first time. When it got to network connection, however, it wasn't much of a surprise that it didn't find anything to connect to a network with. He has ATT@Home, which uses an USB Ethernet device (not a modem, as best I can tell), and it wasn't recognized as anything. Has anyone found a set of drivers for this device? Or is there information that you can point me towards to find more information? I'd be glad to write the SxS if I can get it working. As with many USB devices you may/will have to recompile the kernel to get them recognised. However from memory which is very faulty these days, I do not remember there being any selection for a usb ethernet device. I have a cable connection with ethernet and cable modem, so I know nothing about your setup. -- Worth mentioning I'm on a similar journey in trying to determine if a new usb outdoor antenna will work under linux. Would make wireless lan connections even easier as there's hardly any signal loss over the equivalent 20 ft of cable. It's ip addressable, works at up to 5 miles of range and is cheaper than the current PCMCIA nic/adapter/external antenna. Check out YDI.com for these if you're interested. -- Andrew Mathews 10:25pm up 4:59, 4 users, load average: 1.00, 1.02, 1.04 Finster's Law: A closed mouth gathers no feet. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SETI...
Bruce Marshall wrote: snip Piddly:o) 2,199 units done the last time I looked.Over 5 years worth. Sounds like we need to form a 'Caldera Refugees' SETI group. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/17/01 08:54 + ++ Every creature has within itself the wild, uncontrollable urge to punt. Okay, since we're going that direction2538 units as of this morning. And yeah, I'd be interested in joining if this group created one. -- Andrew Mathews 7:20am up 1 day, 13:20, 5 users, load average: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03 In war, truth is the first casualty. -- U Thant ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SETI...
Bill Day wrote: Im interested in allowing 'use' of my system during idle for these companies that 'borrow' cpu cycles. would someone be kind enuff to post a few links to them so I may pick one or two that I feel more like helping... TIA, snip http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu -- Andrew Mathews 7:55pm up 2 days, 1:55, 5 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 WHO sees a BEACH BUNNY sobbing on a SHAG RUG?! ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am afraid...
Joel Hammer wrote: snip There is no such thing as absolute freedom. That would be called anarchy. Even animals have a social order and rules. Joel Agreed. Nor is there absolute perfection, absolute power, or absolute correctness. The difference (besides opposable thumbs) is that some animals refuse to give up their freedom. Ever seen anyone ride a zebra? They can't be broken like a horse. Why do many animals have a greatly reduced lifespan when caged? Their spirit is broken. I can't say I've ever heard of anyone fighting to be oppressed. Only to be free. Now someone fighting to oppress others, well, that happens every day. Whether we, as individuals, roll over for them or stand up to them depends on one's conscience. -- Andrew Mathews 7:35pm up 2 days, 1:35, 5 users, load average: 1.27, 1.18, 1.11 Would that my hand were as swift as my tongue. -- Alfieri ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Pinging all hosts
Joel Hammer wrote: snip Hmmm.. arp -n on my router shows me all the hosts on my two subnets. Can I conclude that in a network with two subnets and with windows clients who are sharing, the router will always shows the ip's of all the machines? This seems just too easy. I have spent many hours trying to figure out how to reliably find all the netbios clients on my two small home networks so linux clients can mount them. The other way was with a wins server, which works, but can be a nuisance. This looks like the really easy way. Joel ___ Your arp table should show devices with a direct connection to it, but not beyond. So if all your machines have a connection to the router then yes, the router should show all, regardless of the subnet. If machine A had to connect through the router to machine B, the router would receieve the arp broadcast and not forward it to anything else, thus machine A would never populate machine B's arp table. HTH, -- Andrew Mathews 11:10am up 17:10, 4 users, load average: 1.07, 1.05, 1.02 QED. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Pinging all hosts
On September 15, 2001 10:33 am, Joel Hammer wrote: But, there is a fourth host, 192.168.0.1, on my network, which doesn't show, even though I can ping it just fine with ping 192.168.0.1. Is there something special about the .1 member of the network? No. This is a windows host. Could that be why? Also remember that Windows doesn't use a broadcast address, thus no reply from a broadcast ping versus the specific ip address ping. Don't forget the ever handy arp command for identifying devices too. -- Andrew Mathews 6:40pm up 40 min, 4 users, load average: 1.36, 1.25, 1.02 High heels are a device invented by a woman who was tired of being kissed on the forehead. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: WTC
JackM wrote: I would be interested in receiving a copy. Bruce Marshall wrote: I have received a 40+ picture slide show of many events during the attack. Most of the pictures are excellent. If anyone would like me to send it to you, or if someone wants to put it on an ftp site, I would be glad to pass it on. snip This is up at: http://www.linux-works.org/attack Thanks Bruce! -- Andrew Mathews 6:30pm up 17:58, 3 users, load average: 1.04, 1.08, 1.02 Chicken Little only has to be right once. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New York WTC
Keith Antoine wrote: snip Rick, Yes you are totally correct, I am sorry to say. However on a different note I feel differently to all of the users of this list than I had previously. There are many of you that I guess you could say 'I Love', being careful that the correct connotation of love is transmitted grin. There are some of us here who have experienced shock, horror and resignation after losses of mates in conflict. Of course there have been some who would, like to wipe me off there list rather than think I like em! This tradgic event has acted as a catalyst to weld the people together once again, but you will notice it takes a war or a warlike act to do it. Pity! -- Keith Antoine aka Skippy I believe it bears noting that those of us who have served our country and seen blood spilled have a different perspective on the proper way of dealing with these incidents. I never want to see some things again, but nonetheless, realize that it's necessary. We're probably approaching a time in which we'll see some of these fine people pay the ultimate price. Let us not forget those who are preparing to go into harm's way, for they too may experience the atrocities we inflict upon each other. The defense of liberty and freedom has never been easy, but has always been necessary. To those veterans, be they British, Australian, Canadian, American, and all others who've fought valiantly, words can never express the gratitude for the actions and sacrifice you've given. Semper Fi, -- Andrew Mathews 6:40pm up 12 days, 19:30, 6 users, load average: 1.03, 1.19, 1.17 In Denver it is unlawful to lend your vacuum cleaner to your next-door neighbor. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Firewalls WAS:Re: Setting up a company security policy?
JW wrote: snip P.S. I *LIVE* as root on my systems as well. Well I don't, and I suggest you don't do it either. People like you will potentially make it possible for worms and virii to get around on a few UNIX boxes. Man oh man, after reading what you've said in your previous messages I don't think you're qualified to be giving Jay advice or suggestions on how he does things. That's equivalent to telling Linus he doesn't know how to write a kernel. -- Andrew Mathews 9:05pm up 11 days, 21:55, 7 users, load average: 1.02, 1.12, 1.11 Just think, with VLSI we can have 100 ENIACS on a chip! -- Alan Perlis ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Firewalls WAS:Re: Setting up a company security policy?
JW wrote: snip Oh! This is it! If I'm a screwup and I accidentally run a service I didn't intend to, I guess I've just exposed myself, without a firewall. There are as many chances of me accidently shutting down the firewall then there are of me turning on a service unintentionally. No, actually, there are MORE chances of my accidently shutting down the firewall. snip Then you'd be better off using something like Cisco's PIX. Once configured properly the only way to unintentionally shut it off is to stumble over the power cord. -- Andrew Mathews 9:15pm up 11 days, 22:05, 7 users, load average: 1.18, 1.07, 1.08 Baker's First Law of Federal Geometry: A block grant is a solid mass of money surrounded on all sides by governors. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New York WTC
Keith Antoine wrote: On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:24, dep orated thus: charles krauthammer, mideast expert, is a quadraplegic who nevertheless is one of the most astute commentators. i recommend his column of today: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14320-2001Sep11.html I read the article and it is hard hitting , but the conclusions he arrives at are in themselves self defeating. I cannot believe that the majority of US citizens would allow the genocide of a peoples. No, not many would. However these same innocents that wrap their loving arms around those who committed these atrocities should soon be reclassified as collateral damage. If bin Laden is responsible, and if these people see him, they'd better run from him like he was a leper, lest they choose to be a martyr too. Either way, doesn't make much difference, just a little less ammo wasted. George W. is certainly aware that this is a rallying cry that gives him almost free reign to make a decisive decision with few repercussions. We've been haunting ourselves with unfinished missions, from Patton and his desire to continue till he reached Red Square, to the fragile, so called peace agreement between the Koreas, to Vietnam, in which we won the battles, (captured obscure hills, only to abandon them in a matter of days), thus losing the war, to leaving Quadaffi, Hussein, and other sponsors of terrorism remaining in place after delivering sound defeats in their conflicts. We, as a nation, used to find justice, honor, and pride our true beliefs, now we're more worried about being politically correct apologists. There's a time for words, and a time for action. Let's hope we don't get the two confused anymore. - Keith Antoine aka skippy -- Andrew Mathews 10:55pm up 10 days, 23:46, 7 users, load average: 1.16, 1.03, 1.04 War is much too serious a matter to be entrusted to the military. -- Clemenceau ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Stock market...
Jerry McBride wrote: Well... A tough day for wall street. Right about now, all those nice certs in my stock protfolio are about as worthless to me as a 12 pack of toiletpaper... but too rough to enjoy... Say what? ;') Thank GOD, I converted most all of it to other investments earlier this year. I actually listened to my wife for a change and stopped being greedy and exposed in the market. My losses hurt, but at the least I still have something left to think about. It's hard watching your hard earned dollars slip into nothingness. As I left work this evening, my normally cold-as-ice-asshole-boss simply looked terrible. I stopped and we talked a bit... probably the first time I heard him speak from his heart in over 5 years. It was all about money and BOY was it heart wrenching... his retirement is all but gone. Talk about a lost soul. I know and work with people that have lost 100's of thousands of dollars in the last year or so... My god, what have we done? I gotta' tell you guys and gals... my heart of hearts is predicting doom. Where it's comming from I'm not real sure. Is it NAFTA? Cyclic changes in the market? Who knows. Just be sure you're ready for it, though. It's gonna' be tough. If what my mom told me when I was a kid... that $600.00 that Bush wants to send me may not be enough to buy bread and milk next year. Sorry. I'm usually a lot more upbeat than this... Good night and God bless. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 9:50pm up 3 days, 22:23, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ I'll state first and foremost that I'm not qualified to voice an opinion on the stock market, financial strategies or someone else's investments. I do believe that this downturn will have a rebound though. Maybe a little slower than the first peak, but assuredly much steadier. People are not going to give up broadband and go back to modems, give up their office applications in exchange for pencil and paper, or any other type of backwards progress. Failed dot-com's and the like are providing fire sale prices on hardware that will still require trained, certified people to configure and maintain. There's an inherent self-perpetuation that is sometimes forgotten about during depressed periods. The people that recognize that it ain't all over with are the ones that buy at bargain prices and hold on for the next peak. It won't be like it was, but it also won't be like it is. -- Andrew Mathews 8:45pm up 3 days, 3:12, 3 users, load average: 1.00, 1.05, 1.07 Lots of folks are forced to skimp to support a government that won't. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to a home network
David Aikema wrote: On August 25, 2001 07:41 pm, Andrew Mathews wrote: You could consider using a hub that has a BNC connector to connect your existing coax network and 10BaseT for the laptop. That would allow you to migrate from thinnet to 10BaseT without having to recable immediately. Consider a wireless network in the long run though. Too much in the way of $$$ for me. Understandable. It's a fixed asset if you have a home with cabling already run. Eliminates any of these issues concerning cabling and compatability. I know the freedom it gives me is more than worth the price. What about security? AFAIK wireless at the moment has been effectively shot full of holes. Data encryption over wireless has several exploits. A couple are on freshmeat. However security over a hard wired connection is just as vulnerable. There are bunches of packet sniffers available that do the same thing. The difference is in access to the data packets. Wireless would have to be captured between you and the ISP or second station. Unless you're running an omnidirectional antenna, you're broadcasting a rather small beam. If somebody's sniffing, you will almost be able to see them physically. If somebody's packet sniffing on a network, they could be anywhere your network runs. If you're on a WAN, they don't even have to be in the same state to sniff you. So essentially it's a toss up security wise. David Aikema ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Andrew Mathews 12:50pm up 19:18, 3 users, load average: 1.00, 1.05, 1.07 How comes it to pass, then, that we appear such cowards in reasoning, and are so afraid to stand the test of ridicule? -- A. Cooper ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Worm: How you doin'?
Alan Jackson wrote: snip Yeah, I just got a 6 Mbyte file in my e-mail from some idiot with an infected machine. I'm getting really testy about this - by this time people need to get their friggin' machines cleaned up. -- snip Which poses a totally different question. Can Sendmail be configured to reject mail based upon the mailer type? There's a few that a canned reply of This domain no longer accepts mail messages from Outlook or Outlook Express due to unacceptable security. Please use a secure mailer program. -- Andrew Mathews 9:05pm up 3:33, 2 users, load average: 1.09, 1.06, 1.02 She liked him; he was a man of many qualities, even if most of them were bad. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to a home network
Joel Hammer wrote: I am rusty on networking. I have a thin coaxial cable home network. My son just got a lap top for school and will be bringing it home from time to time and needs to hook it up to the home network. He will need to access the internet as well as download files, etc. The laptop has a twisted pair NIC. What would be the easiest way of hooking this thing into my network? I imagine putting a second NIC into an easily accessible computer on the network and hooking them together directly with a twisted wire would be easy. What would be the proper name for such a directly connecting twisted wire cable? I may just go out and get hub and start converting my home network over to twisted wire instead of thin coax. Does anyone have experience making this transition? Any other ideas appreciated. Joel You could consider using a hub that has a BNC connector to connect your existing coax network and 10BaseT for the laptop. That would allow you to migrate from thinnet to 10BaseT without having to recable immediately. Consider a wireless network in the long run though. Eliminates any of these issues concerning cabling and compatability. I know the freedom it gives me is more than worth the price. -- Andrew Mathews 8:30pm up 1 day, 1:05, 4 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 The C Programming Language -- A language which combines the flexibility of assembly language with the power of assembly language. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Easy hook up of a laptop to a home network
Joel Hammer wrote: You could consider using a hub that has a BNC connector to connect your existing coax network and 10BaseT for the laptop. That would allow you to migrate from thinnet to 10BaseT without having to recable immediately. Consider a wireless network in the long run though. The hub with the BNC connector is a great idea. I didn't know they existed. With such a hub, do you have to subnet the boxes on the hub? Joel ___ I don't think so, but I haven't used one for a while. Microwarehouse has them at: http://www2.warehouse.com/product.asp?dept%5Fid=3537cat=networkingpf%5Fid=DEH4899blind=no -- Andrew Mathews 9:05pm up 1 day, 1:40, 4 users, load average: 1.00, 1.10, 1.07 History books which contain no lies are extremely dull. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Error during make bzImage, kernel 2.4.9
Marianne Taylor wrote: I built kernel 2.4.9 last night and also noted that the Reiserfs was greyed out and not available. My root partition was reiserfs so that was a problem for me. Went to the reiserfs site and saw that the last patch available was for the 2.4.7 kernel. Does anyone know what is up with them? Is reiserfs still going to be part of the kernel? TIA Marianne Taylor In order for it to be available as a selection, the Code Maturity Level Options must be enabled. -- Andrew Mathews 6:50pm up 57 min, 3 users, load average: 1.12, 1.08, 0.93 Avert misunderstanding by calm, poise, and balance. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Wheel mouse on Slack8?
Ken Moffat wrote: I'm trying out Slackware 8.0, and my wheel mouse doesn't wheel. The 3 buttons work, but no scrolling. I've tried editing the XF86Config file and addingOption ZAxisMapping X but no luck. I can't figure out the options. I have a logitech mouse. Anyone make one of these work in slack? Thanks Ken Try ZAxisMapping 4 5 -- Andrew Mathews 8:15pm up 33 min, 3 users, load average: 1.01, 0.88, 0.50 Necessity is a mother. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Administrivia - Everyone please read!
Bruce Marshall wrote: snip I can't stand it anymore. I missed the pic. Someone send to me via private email so I can see what all the hubaloo is about. I missed it too =( Same here... yet I have lots of other email that arrived around the same time. Makes me think that it never arrived here and I wonder why. Can I be offended? Okay. For what anybody missed and for a limited time only: http://www.linux-works.org/images/laetitia.jpg You have been warned. -- Andrew Mathews 11:15pm up 5:10, 3 users, load average: 1.04, 1.06, 0.71 A man who turns green has eschewed protein. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fw: linux-mandrake 8.0-netscape messenger
Anthony Joshua Brow wrote: G'day Ladies/Gents, Ref above, are there any Mandrake -Linux users among you ? As a newbie I 'am having trouble to get the 'messenger' for emails installed. When I click on the email grafic on the bottom of the Netscape window the machine tells me : Default in box folder doe not exist and that I cannot receive or send any email I managed to install netscape 4.77 and the web browsing is working allright. I used the mandrake-Linux site and their install demos, as well as the SxS. (Icannot help it, but I'am partial to Netscape). I could not work out the SxS suggestion as I'm not sure if this is for this Mandrake-Linux 8.0 I enjoyed installing this M-Linux, but there is still a lot to learn Thank you in advance Tony Brow (joshua) Try the following and tell us what it shows. cd to your home directory and do an ls -l | grep nsmail which should show something like mine: drwx-- 5 andy users2048 Aug 7 23:39 nsmail Next cd nsmail and do an ls -l which should show something like: -rw--- 1 andy users2249 Aug 8 00:20 Inbox If there is no Inbox do touch Inbox then chmod a+rw Inbox then fire up Messenger again. The error should go away. If there's anything different report back with what yours shows. -- Andrew Mathews 12:20am up 2 days, 3:59, 3 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.01 QOTD: I used to jog, but the ice kept bouncing out of my glass. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fw: linux-mandrake 8.0-netscape messenger
Anthony Joshua Brow wrote: attn: Andrew Mathews. First, Andrew, thank for your courtesy in replying. Second I did as you suggested and the outcome was as follows: -rw-- 1 tony tony 0 aug 6 1427 drafts -rw-- 1 tony tony 0 aug 6 1427 Inbox -rw-- 1--sent -rw---1--Template -rw---1---trash -rw---1---unsent -rw---1---messages At this stage I have no idea how to proceed, but I guess I may have to do something with the line that shows the 'Inbox'. I had adjusted the 'preference settings' in the netscape part several times, with the result that I suddenly got online but, the 'Inbox and Outbox' still have me stumped. So over to you and thank you again. Tony snip You will need to do a little touch up on these by cd'ing into the nsmail directory and doing a chown tony * and chgrp tony * Your files have correct permissions so just give them proper ownership and group. Next thing to try would be to check permissions on your preferences.js file which stores your settings. If you don't have permission to change it, it won't ever let you do what you need to. Yours is probably in /home/tony/.netscape/preferences.js. Note that it's in a hidden directory (.netscape) so syntax is important. You need to set it with chmod a+rw preferences.js, and if ls -l preferences.js shows anything besides you as owner and group, change it with the chown and chgrp commands as above. Take it one step at a time and let us know the results. HTH, -- Andrew Mathews 7:40pm up 2 days, 23:19, 3 users, load average: 1.08, 1.08, 1.05 Dibble's First Law of Sociology: Some do, some don't. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ACTIVADORES BIOLÓGICOS PARA ELIMINAR OLORES. ¡PUBLICIDAD!
Jesús Uría wrote: snipola I don't speak spanish but this doesn't appear to have anything to do with linux. Would a translator please spell SPAM in spanish? -- Andrew Mathews 8:30pm up 12 days, 23:54, 5 users, load average: 1.07, 1.13, 1.12 You had some happiness once, but your parents moved away, and you had to leave it behind. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: what are you doing about the ORBS mess?
Douglas J. Hunley wrote: I finally landed a new job and have been really busy this week. I just got caught up (kinda) and am at a loss about the ORBS thing. My current sendmail.cf uses blackholes.mail-abuse.org for it's DNS spam blocking. Should I swith that to or.orbl.org? What have you guys done about it? Please don't chime in w/ you shouldn't do that. it censorship or any of that other crap. If that's what you want to talk about, go to /. I have sites to run and policies to follow. Thanks -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the home user ~~ The only difference between a rut and a grave is their dimensions. ___ Check out: http://www.e-scrub.com/orbs/ I'd think seriously about someone else. The current situation with ORBS is being actively discussed on the vger.kernel.org list. Seems to be a bit of difference of opinion. See the snippet below from a message quoting Alan Cox. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 14.07.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.e-scrub.com/orbs/ is the key. Ronald F. Guilmette [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this message to spam lists. Anybody still using ORBS for lookups can expect to get random mail bounces. Yeah he's decided to solve his load problem by committing an act of criminal fraud, computer misuse and a few other violations What are you smoking? The DNS requests are happening against his express wishes, so if anything, the *requests* are computer misuse. Alan's NS entries pointing people there definitely are. It's not Ronald who's telling people his server is authoritative; in fact, he's doing just the opposite, loudly. Because of the way Alan disabled the former ORBS list zones, my name server is now shouldering (at least) 1/11th of the total world-wide [I think he means the way the courts did..] I don't. He's talking about technical changes, not about legal reasons. And guess what, as soon as ORBS got beaten off the net MAPS starts talking about charging for their service, just like they promised they never would How about starting a true free project, with charter and/or licensing that makes it impossible to go non-free? Something that's controlled by more than one person, and which is explicit about what exactly the rules are, and which part of those rules are responsible for particular entry. MfG Kai - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-admin in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrew Mathews 10:30am up 10 days, 13:54, 5 users, load average: 1.08, 1.06, 1.05 I despise the pleasure of pleasing people whom I despise. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Stupid newbie network question
Ian Marchak wrote: snip Assuming hostnames or upstairs and downstairs 1. On upstairs type: # xhost downstairs 2. Telnet to 'downstairs' 3. On 'downstairs' type # export DISPLAY=upstairs:0.0 4. Run your app at the command line as usual, the DISPLAY will be output over the network to your machine upstairs. -- Ian Marchak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] StepByStep [http://members.home.net/linuxsteps/] Okay, now for the next level... Picture thisMachine A is masqueraded behind Machine B. Machine D is also behind Machine C. Or: A--B-public internet-C--D |___| Now A D are both class A ip addresses, 10.10.108.0 and 10.144.120.0. Using ssh how can you export a display from A to D or vice versa? export DISPLAY=65.121.54.118:65.121.54.119:10.144.120.51:0.0?? 1st public ip__|| ||| || ||| 2nd public ip|| ||| || ||| 2nd local ip__|| ||| ||| || Since machine B C are public they work easily. Or A to B, B to C or C to D, and even A to C. But how can you specify an export three machines back from one network to another? Is it so simple I've overlooked it? -- Andrew Mathews 6:50pm up 5 days, 22:14, 4 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 Blessed is he who expects no gratitude, for he shall not be disappointed. -- W.C. Bennett ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: KurtWerks? Or does he?OT
dep wrote: On Wednesday 04 July 2001 03:39 am, Collins Richey wrote: | Hey, if Kurt doesn't mind sharing, Tin Hat would be a great name | for the distro you guys are planning to cook up! grin nah, we'd get sued by red hat -- see adobe v. kde for details. how about tin horn? tin ear? tintype? copper plate? lead foot? mercury switch? iron chef? steel magnolia? aluminum siding? carbon 14? -- dep GNL/Linux (Gnu's Not Linux) -- Andrew Mathews 2:20pm up 1 day, 8:02, 3 users, load average: 1.04, 1.04, 1.03 When man calls an animal vicious, he usually means that it will attempt to defend itself when he tries to kill it. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
