internal modem

2001-11-26 Thread zohar

I have SUSE 7.1 professional installed on my system and have normal internal
Winmodem through which I want to surf but computer engineer told that
drivers for internal modem is not available. This was told about 4 months
back.
Is it now available and where.

My modem is shown as
HCF 56K PCI Modem which is installed on Com3

Winsock information is
Description : WinSock 2.0
Version:2.2
Status:  Running
Enabled:   Yes

I have no network connection but my ISP is putting me on local intranet
rather than internet so I am able to surf internet via his server.

Please oblige me and write for any more information needed.

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internal modem

2002-01-06 Thread zohar

one of my friend says the internal modem is an internal modem while other
says it is a Winmodem. I think it is Winmodem as it has no processor like
thing of itself. I want to connect Linux to internet as I want it to be able
to download it linux material in Linux partition. So I think I have to
brought a external modem . In all this I am confused.
Do any one have encountered this or have some idea about this ?

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Re: internal modem

2001-11-27 Thread Declan Moriarty

These winmodems are despised generally, because they are a sickener and a 
liability - using up cpu resources. I have a Motorola one, for which drivers 
appeared fairly recently.
http://www.linmodems.org charts the progress of drivers for them

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 00:30, you wrote:
> I have SUSE 7.1 professional installed on my system and have normal
> internal Winmodem through which I want to surf but computer engineer told
> that drivers for internal modem is not available. This was told about 4
> months back.
> Is it now available and where.
>
> My modem is shown as
> HCF 56K PCI Modem which is installed on Com3
>
> Winsock information is
> Description : WinSock 2.0
> Version:2.2
> Status:  Running
> Enabled:   Yes
>
> I have no network connection but my ISP is putting me on local intranet
> rather than internet so I am able to surf internet via his server.


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Re: internal modem

2001-11-27 Thread Bill Day

I would venture to say, there is  a lot less heartache in external 
modems(Parrallel that is, not USB) then any internal.  Some ISA's will work 
flwalessy, some wont.  There are  a few PCI's that work, I believe one of 
them is a USR.

However, if hes giving you access through his lan, you will be better off 
speed wise  8^), otherwise I suggest picking up an external USR(Parrallel) 
modem for about $80.

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 03:58, you were heard blurting out:
> These winmodems are despised generally, because they are a sickener and a
> liability - using up cpu resources. I have a Motorola one, for which
> drivers appeared fairly recently.
> http://www.linmodems.org charts the progress of drivers for them
>
> On Tuesday 27 November 2001 00:30, you wrote:
> > I have SUSE 7.1 professional installed on my system and have normal
> > internal Winmodem through which I want to surf but computer engineer told
> > that drivers for internal modem is not available. This was told about 4
> > months back.
> > Is it now available and where.
> >
> > My modem is shown as
> > HCF 56K PCI Modem which is installed on Com3
> >
> > Winsock information is
> > Description : WinSock 2.0
> > Version:2.2
> > Status:  Running
> > Enabled:   Yes
> >
> > I have no network connection but my ISP is putting me on local intranet
> > rather than internet so I am able to surf internet via his server.

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Re: internal modem

2001-11-27 Thread Lee

zohar wrote:

> I have SUSE 7.1 professional installed on my system and have normal internal
> Winmodem through which I want to surf but computer engineer told that
> drivers for internal modem is not available. This was told about 4 months
> back.
> Is it now available and where.
>
> My modem is shown as
> HCF 56K PCI Modem which is installed on Com3
>
> Winsock information is
> Description : WinSock 2.0
> Version:2.2
> Status:  Running
> Enabled:   Yes
>
> I have no network connection but my ISP is putting me on local intranet
> rather than internet so I am able to surf internet via his server.
>
> Please oblige me and write for any more information needed.

If it's a Win Modem there is a high probability that it wouldn't work on Linux.
Win modems usually lack onboard controllers and rely on Windows OS programs and
your motherboard cpu. As M$ is reluctant to turn loose of its source code the
few Win Modems (that rumor has it) that work on Linux are usually reverse
engineered by some free lance genius. Intel does have one that is supposed to
work on Linux and they even have a Linux driver for it driver for it on their
net site listed as experimental.

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Re: internal modem

2001-11-27 Thread dallam

I am using a winmodem with a Lucent chipset on SuSE 7.1, it wasn't
easy getting it to work. I would suggest unless you just *have* to
use the winmodem to invest in a good external modem. linmodems.org
has information as someone else on the list pointed out. Also try
www.heby.do/ltmodems and see what he has there for drivers. I am
active on the linmodems list, but I don't have any experience with
your type of modem.
BTW, it isn't MickeySoft who controls the code for these modems, it
is the manufacturers themselves. Some, for instance Intel, are
sharing code with programers so that drivers can be created.
HTH,
Dallam

Thus spake Lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

> zohar wrote:
> 
> > I have SUSE 7.1 professional installed on my system and have normal internal
> > Winmodem through which I want to surf but computer engineer told that
> > drivers for internal modem is not available. This was told about 4 months
> > back.
> > Is it now available and where.
> >
> > My modem is shown as
> > HCF 56K PCI Modem which is installed on Com3
> >
> > Winsock information is
> > Description : WinSock 2.0
> > Version:2.2
> > Status:  Running
> > Enabled:   Yes
> >
> > I have no network connection but my ISP is putting me on local intranet
> > rather than internet so I am able to surf internet via his server.
> >
> > Please oblige me and write for any more information needed.
> 
> If it's a Win Modem there is a high probability that it wouldn't work on Linux.
> Win modems usually lack onboard controllers and rely on Windows OS programs and
> your motherboard cpu. As M$ is reluctant to turn loose of its source code the
> few Win Modems (that rumor has it) that work on Linux are usually reverse
> engineered by some free lance genius. Intel does have one that is supposed to
> work on Linux and they even have a Linux driver for it driver for it on their
> net site listed as experimental.
> 
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Re: internal modem

2001-11-27 Thread Dave Anselmi

Bill Day wrote:

> I would venture to say, there is  a lot less heartache in external
> modems(Parrallel that is, not USB) then any internal.  Some ISA's will work
> flwalessy, some wont.  There are  a few PCI's that work, I believe one of
> them is a USR.
>
> However, if hes giving you access through his lan, you will be better off
> speed wise  8^), otherwise I suggest picking up an external USR(Parrallel)
> modem for about $80.

I think you mean serial, not parallel.  And I disagree about internal modems being
hard.  You just have to know what you're getting (like any Linux hardware).

I bought a SmartLink 5634PCV (internal, PCI) - it said in the ad (and on the box)
'supports Linux'.  It was about $40.  (Well, I see that they have externals for
about $50 so maybe the price is worth it.)

Anyway, the card looks like a serial port to Linux.  /proc/pci tells me what i/o
and irq it uses and setserial configures it to be ttyS2.  (Side note: the supplied
'driver' used libc5, so wasn't helpful, but the manual directions were so simple I
don't know why they bothered.)

No, it wasn't as simple as plug it in and it works.  Of course I saw a guy trying
to talk to his external modem on ttyS1 (he only had one serial port - ttyS0).

This particular modem is V.90 only (no X2 or K56flex), so it didn't work well with
one ISP who's modems don't support V.90.  So if your ISP is important to you, make
sure you can try your modem out with them first.

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-06 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:36:47 +0530
"zohar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

> one of my friend says the internal modem is an internal modem while
> other says it is a Winmodem. I think it is Winmodem as it has no
> processor like thing of itself. I want to connect Linux to internet as I
> want it to be able to download it linux material in Linux partition. So
> I think I have to brought a external modem . In all this I am confused.
> Do any one have encountered this or have some idea about this ?
======
It's likely that your internal modem is a winmodem; so many of them are
these days on new machines, unless you have the OEM customize somehow. 
You should try to find out precisely which modem it is that you have (you
can find out in Windows) and then check the supported list at
linmodems.com. If you don't mind popping for the few bucks for an
external, I'd recommend that root (as opposed to getting a software based
modem working).  Just be sure it's a serial port external as oppossed to a
USB (many of which are also software based).  You won't regret having an
external, I assure you. Mike

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-06 Thread Chang

http://www.linmodem.org may help..

> to download it linux material in Linux partition. So I think I have to
> brought a external modem . In all this I am confused.
> Do any one have encountered this or have some idea about this ?

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-06 Thread Dallam

On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 05:36:47PM +0530, zohar wrote:
> one of my friend says the internal modem is an internal modem while other
> says it is a Winmodem. I think it is Winmodem as it has no processor like
> thing of itself. I want to connect Linux to internet as I want it to be able
> to download it linux material in Linux partition. So I think I have to
> brought a external modem . In all this I am confused.
> Do any one have encountered this or have some idea about this ?

http://www.linmodems.org is a good place to start reading.
I have a winmodem running on a box here. IMHO, if money isn't an
issue buy an external modem and save yourself some time and trouble.
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Re: internal modem

2002-01-06 Thread Anita Lewis

On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:36:47 +0530, zohar wrote:
> one of my friend says the internal modem is an internal modem while other
> says it is a Winmodem. I think it is Winmodem as it has no processor like
> thing of itself. I want to connect Linux to internet as I want it to be able
> to download it linux material in Linux partition. So I think I have to
> brought a external modem . In all this I am confused.
> Do any one have encountered this or have some idea about this ?
> 

If you just want to download material to put on the Linux partition, you can
download it in Windows and leave it in a folder on your desktop.  Then boot
into Linux and do:

mount -t vfat /dev/hda1  /mnt (if Windows is on /dev/hda1)
cd /mnt/windows/desktop/
ls (You will see what is on your desktop)

You can copy the whole folder over to Linux.  If you do this as user, it
will end up in a folder by the same name in /home/:

cp -a  ~/
umount /mnt

You may want to do more than this, like mail and so on, but if you just want
to download, this will work.

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-06 Thread Lee

zohar wrote:
> 
> one of my friend says the internal modem is an internal modem while other
> says it is a Winmodem. I think it is Winmodem as it has no processor like
> thing of itself. I want to connect Linux to internet as I want it to be able
> to download it linux material in Linux partition. So I think I have to
> brought a external modem . In all this I am confused.
> Do any one have encountered this or have some idea about this ?

As a general rule, PCI modems won't run in Linux. There are some
exceptions for example US Robotics makes a 56k fax PCI modem that sets
up on Linux OSs using kernel 2.4 or higher. On ISA type modems the usual
way to tell a Win  modem from a Linux adaptable modem is the presence of
jumpers (plugs) that allow you to hand set the comm port and irq the
modem will use. If you got them not win modem if your modem lacks them
it's probably Win. ISA is getting a little rare these days but SmartLink
(Archtek) still makes a 56k BTS model that works ok and doesn't cost a
bundle. The cheapest place to get these is on the Ebay auction.

For real trouble free modems go external. With them it's simply a matter
of plugging the thing into your computer and identifying ttyS0 (comm
port 1) as the comm port to use. The best ones are US Robotics 56k, but
they usually have the highest prices. Myself, I run a Smartlink external
that I bought for $10 on the ebay auction on the one triple boot system
I run. Peanut Linux uses the external on ttyS0 and Mandrake and SuSe use
the Smartlink on ttyS2 without conflict.

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-06 Thread Declan Moriarty

Was it Anita Lewis who wrote on Sunday 06 January 2002 15:47:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:36:47 +0530, zohar wrote:
> > one of my friend says the internal modem is an internal modem while other
> > says it is a Winmodem. I think it is Winmodem as it has no processor like
> > thing of itself. I want to connect Linux to internet as I want it to be
> > able to download it linux material in Linux partition. So I think I have
> > to brought a external modem . In all this I am confused.
> > Do any one have encountered this or have some idea about this ?
>
> If you just want to download material to put on the Linux partition, you
> can download it in Windows and leave it in a folder on your desktop.  Then
> boot into Linux and do:

I would not reccomend this for 2 reasons
1. People are inclined to do more than d/l when online -  surf, chat, email; 
All of these occupations are unsafe in windoze. (M$ specific viruses, viruses 
which dcc themselves to you via irc chat, sites which screw a computer 
running ie just for fun, etc. etc.) People only downloading is rare enough. I 
got the CIH virus on the back of a niusance virus dcc'd via an irc line to 
one of my youngsters: On April 23rd, Someone sent me a link for a checker for 
it, and I got it and ran it, as I was online; I found 175 copies of CIH 
between 2 computers. FYI, CIH overwrites the flash bios on April 26th. That's 
when I got into linux big time.

2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the external one, 
or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a winmodem). If it 
doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem.
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Re: internal modem

2002-01-06 Thread Net Llama

--- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the external
> one, 
> or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a winmodem).
> If it 
> doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem.

Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been happily
using COM3 for about 9 months.

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-06 Thread Jer Scanlon

Zohar:

One other thing about Winmodems:

If  it is written anywhere-
one the retail box, or
in the advertisement, or
in the description, as at an auction, like Ebay,

"requires a Pentium 1xx processor"

it is surely a Winmodem, as this statement indicates that the modem uses 
the motherboard processor to operate.

Of course, especially in auctions, sellers have learned to NOT include this 
so as to sell to the unsuspecting buyer.

Best to buy EXTERNAL.

Jer




At 12:46 PM 1/6/02 -0500, you wrote:

>zohar wrote:
> >
> > one of my friend says the internal modem is an internal modem while other
> > says it is a Winmodem. I think it is Winmodem as it has no processor like
> > thing of itself. I want to connect Linux to internet as I want it to be 
> able
> > to download it linux material in Linux partition. So I think I have to
> > brought a external modem . In all this I am confused.
> > Do any one have encountered this or have some idea about this ?
>
>As a general rule, PCI modems won't run in Linux. There are some
>exceptions for example US Robotics makes a 56k fax PCI modem that sets
>up on Linux OSs using kernel 2.4 or higher. On ISA type modems the usual
>way to tell a Win  modem from a Linux adaptable modem is the presence of
>jumpers (plugs) that allow you to hand set the comm port and irq the
>modem will use. If you got them not win modem if your modem lacks them
>it's probably Win. ISA is getting a little rare these days but SmartLink
>(Archtek) still makes a 56k BTS model that works ok and doesn't cost a
>bundle. The cheapest place to get these is on the Ebay auction.
>
>For real trouble free modems go external. With them it's simply a matter
>of plugging the thing into your computer and identifying ttyS0 (comm
>port 1) as the comm port to use. The best ones are US Robotics 56k, but
>they usually have the highest prices. Myself, I run a Smartlink external
>that I bought for $10 on the ebay auction on the one triple boot system
>I run. Peanut Linux uses the external on ttyS0 and Mandrake and SuSe use
>the Smartlink on ttyS2 without conflict.
>
>Lee
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Re: internal modem

2002-01-06 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Sunday 06 January 2002 17:05 pm, Net Llama wrote:
> --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the external
> > one,
> > or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a winmodem).
> > If it
> > doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem.
>
> Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been happily
> using COM3 for about 9 months.

Ok, but I'll bet your modem aspires to COM1 or COM2.   :o)


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Re: internal modem

2002-01-06 Thread Collins Richey

On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 14:05:37 -0800 (PST) Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the external
> > one, 
> > or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a winmodem).
> > If it 
> > doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem.
> 
> Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been happily
> using COM3 for about 9 months.
> 

Ditto.  Before I got cable, my external 56K modem was on COM3.


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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Declan Moriarty

Was it Net Llama who wrote on Sunday 06 January 2002 22:05:
> --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the external
> > one,
> > or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a winmodem).
> > If it
> > doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem.
>
> Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been happily
> using COM3 for about 9 months.

I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com 2; it 
passes the test. Winmodems are unlikely to use these allocations. 
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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Net Llama

--- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Was it Net Llama who wrote on Sunday 06 January 2002 22:05:
> > --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the
> external
> > > one,
> > > or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a
> winmodem).
> > > If it
> > > doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem.
> >
> > Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been
> happily
> > using COM3 for about 9 months.
> 
> I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com 2;

Trust me, i tried every bit of setserial magic that i could find.  It
absolutely refuses to work on COM1 or COM2.  BTW, its a 56k USR PCI modem.

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Ian

Net Llama wrote:
> 
> --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Was it Net Llama who wrote on Sunday 06 January 2002 22:05:
> > > --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the
> > external
> > > > one,
> > > > or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a
> > winmodem).
> > > > If it
> > > > doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem.
> > >
> > > Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been
> > happily
> > > using COM3 for about 9 months.
> >
> > I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com 2;
> 
> Trust me, i tried every bit of setserial magic that i could find.  It
> absolutely refuses to work on COM1 or COM2.  BTW, its a 56k USR PCI modem.

You wouldn't have a model number for this thing would you?  My new
machine has only PCI slots and my old reliable 56k modem is ISA.

I either need to track down a good PCI internal or a 56k external...one
or the other.  I'm looking for what's worked for others and so on. It's
not a pressing item, so I've not spent much time figuring out what's a
winmodem and what isn't.
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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Stew Benedict


On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Ian wrote:

> You wouldn't have a model number for this thing would you?  My new
> machine has only PCI slots and my old reliable 56k modem is ISA.
> 
> I either need to track down a good PCI internal or a 56k external...one
> or the other.  I'm looking for what's worked for others and so on. It's
> not a pressing item, so I've not spent much time figuring out what's a
> winmodem and what isn't.
> -- 

I've used the ActionTec Call Waiting PCI modem with little problem.  the
manual even covers Linux installation.  Basically, you need to look at the
output of lspci and then add a setserial entry with the right port and
interrupt.

Stew Benedict

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Net Llama

--- Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Net Llama wrote:
> > 
> > --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Was it Net Llama who wrote on Sunday 06 January 2002 22:05:
> > > > --- Declan Moriarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > 2. Winmodems are CPU hungry and slow your beast down. Get the
> > > external
> > > > > one,
> > > > > or an expensive card (At least 6 chips usually, vs ~3 for a
> > > winmodem).
> > > > > If it
> > > > > doesn't configure as com 1 or 2, it's not a real modem.
> > > >
> > > > Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been
> > > happily
> > > > using COM3 for about 9 months.
> > >
> > > I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com
> 2;
> > 
> > Trust me, i tried every bit of setserial magic that i could find. 
> It
> > absolutely refuses to work on COM1 or COM2.  BTW, its a 56k USR PCI
> modem.
> 
> You wouldn't have a model number for this thing would you?  My new
> machine has only PCI slots and my old reliable 56k modem is ISA.
> 
> I either need to track down a good PCI internal or a 56k
> external...one
> or the other.  I'm looking for what's worked for others and so on.
> It's
> not a pressing item, so I've not spent much time figuring out what's a
> winmodem and what isn't.

I'm not in front of the box that has it, but i believe that its model#
5610.  If USR has a model number like that, then its definitely that number.

=

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Michael Hipp

What about this one:
http://www.provantage.com/scripts/go.dll/e13112_14/FP_65886.HTM

Michael

- Original Message -
From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: internal modem


> I either need to track down a good PCI internal or a 56k external...one
> or the other.  I'm looking for what's worked for others and so on. It's
> not a pressing item, so I've not spent much time figuring out what's a
> winmodem and what isn't.



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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Keith Antoine

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:47,Anita Lewis scribed:

> If you just want to download material to put on the Linux partition, you
> can download it in Windows and leave it in a folder on your desktop.  Then
> boot into Linux and do:
>
> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1  /mnt (if Windows is on /dev/hda1)
> cd /mnt/windows/desktop/
> ls (You will see what is on your desktop)

NOT a good idea! this is due to the fact that windows does not rcognise 
the file types, .gz, .bz2 or rpm. I did this for a while at a stage where I 
was unable for a short time to use linux online, I received files that when 
transferred over to linux proved to be corrupted or shortened and would not 
undo or if they did were missing parts. This did not happen to all files, 
just about 60% and only the important ones.

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Re: internal modem

2002-01-07 Thread Anita Lewis

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:32:27 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:47,Anita Lewis scribed:
> 
>> If you just want to download material to put on the Linux partition, you
>> can download it in Windows and leave it in a folder on your desktop.  Then
>> boot into Linux and do:
>>
>> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1  /mnt (if Windows is on /dev/hda1)
>> cd /mnt/windows/desktop/
>> ls (You will see what is on your desktop)
> 
> NOT a good idea! this is due to the fact that windows does not rcognise 
> the file types, .gz, .bz2 or rpm. I did this for a while at a stage where I 
> was unable for a short time to use linux online, I received files that when 
> transferred over to linux proved to be corrupted or shortened and would not 
> undo or if they did were missing parts. This did not happen to all files, 
> just about 60% and only the important ones.
> 

Gee, they always appeared intact when I went to look at them through linux. 
I had problems when I put them on floppy or zip to transfer them though. 
Well, it has been about 3 years since I did this; so things may be
different.  I remember having to rename a couple of them that had two dots
in them like something.tar.gz, but that was about it.  In fact I have
recently downloaded .gz and .rpm and .deb at work when they are big, because
we have dsl there.  I put them on zip and they worked fine at home.  Guess I
got lucky.  

I think the idea is worth a try for someone who has no modem and wants to
get started.  I agree that it is not the best solution in the long term.

Anita
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Re: internal modem

2002-01-08 Thread Declan Moriarty

Was it Net Llama who wrote on Monday 07 January 2002 15:58:
>
> > > Please don't tell that to the real modem in my box that has been
> >
> > happily
> >
> > > using COM3 for about 9 months.
> >
> > I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com 2;
>
> Trust me, i tried every bit of setserial magic that i could find.  It
> absolutely refuses to work on COM1 or COM2.  BTW, its a 56k USR PCI modem.

As the Irishman said when asked for directions: "If I were you, I wouldn't 
start from here at all!"

I don't think it should be a setserial issue. That is decided in the bios, 
surely. If you have a working com 1 and com 2, the lowest available option is 
com 3. Motherboard ports are always numbered lower than cards - it's the 
order things are checked for. Try disabling com 2 in the BIOS, (If possible) 
whereupon it should be settable to com 2. Otherwise just take it on faith 
that if it were in a pc with com 2 disabled or absent, yours could be set up 
on com 2, whereas a winmodem could not. Which was what I tried to tell the 
guy, who has probably lost interest long ago since he got his answer.
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Re: internal modem

2002-01-08 Thread Mike Andrew

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:20, Declan Moriarty wrote:

> > > > using COM3 for about 9 months.
> > >
> > > I won't. I imagine that it can also be configured as com 1 or com 2;
> >
> > Trust me, i tried every bit of setserial magic that i could find.  It

[snip]

The point behind the original post(er) was that winmodems will not respond to 
any of the COMx ports. Nor will the very small number of genuine com cards 
that use pci, but that's an added wrinkle.

THE major reasons for pci is to extend the crippled IRQ slots, extend dma 
beyond the 7 channel : 16 bit address range, and to provide better bandwidth 
than 16bit ISA.

Serial cards (modem or otherwise) fail on all criteria. They can only ever be 
8 bit, have no practical use for dma, and irq's 4/3 are welded to serial 
comms (but not the other way round). Thus the need to make a pci based 
genuine com card is not there and is more expensive to produce (more gold 
fingers).

Winmodems are an excellent idea if you have under-utilised cpu power. There's 
nothing illegal in using cpu crunch for dsp processing. Sound has been doing 
it for years (22% of your cpu useage can be spent processing wav files),  
prior to voodoo grafix engines (eg) so too for video. I don't like these cpu 
hungry devices philosphically, because I like things in lego-blocks, not an 
all encompassing cpu. But, I admire the cleverness and technology behind the 
winmodem.

If you accept the following:

1) an internal 'modem' is wasted on anything but ISA 
2) Motherboards will rarely supply ISA slots in future.
3) motherboards will ALWAYS have COM1 & 2' on board'

External modems are the *practical*, *permanent*, answer.

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