Re: Lisa Disk Drive (Working !!!)
Hi Jerome, check the October 2005 postings in LisaList and use the search or filter option with profile greetings TOM from Bavaria Am 28.02.2006 um 10:11 schrieb Jérôme VERNET: Is there a complete LisaList archive ? The only I found is incomplete (maclaunch). Jerome -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive (Working !!!)
Hi All, So, finally, thanks to macmoni and Guido, I finally get my drive working. I changed the Profile (I have two Profile) to manage to install LisaOS 3.1, done without any problem. The only problem is that the Profile made an astounishing squeaking noise ! The bearings are absolutely dead, so the drive will fail sooner or later :(. I don't think I can do something for it, and have to play around with a ear-protection headset ;) After so long, I was able to see what Lisa OS look like. I was thinking that it was much nearer to macos, but it's really something different. A little AVI film: http://membres.lycos.fr/jeromevernet/images/IMGP0616.AVI I'm happy ! Jerome -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive (Working !!!)
Hi Jerome, loud vintage Profiles are normal if they are vintage and loud ;-) So you will have to rename your file IMGP0616.AVI to loudvintageProfile.avi or, don't you... Please feel free to check the postings in the LisaList approx 1 year ago, there have been several hints, what you have to do, to get a silent Profile again... greetings TOM from Bavaria Am 27.02.2006 um 21:45 schrieb Jerome Vernet: Hi All, So, finally, thanks to macmoni and Guido, I finally get my drive working. I changed the Profile (I have two Profile) to manage to install LisaOS 3.1, done without any problem. The only problem is that the Profile made an astounishing squeaking noise ! The bearings are absolutely dead, so the drive will fail sooner or later :(. I don't think I can do something for it, and have to play around with a ear-protection headset ;) After so long, I was able to see what Lisa OS look like. I was thinking that it was much nearer to macos, but it's really something different. A little AVI film: http://membres.lycos.fr/jeromevernet/images/IMGP0616.AVI I'm happy ! Jerome -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive
Le 26 févr. 06, à 07:54, macmoni a écrit : Hi Jerome, No, but it was easy for me to type that in. Of course you will disconnect the PIN 9 wire and the PIN 20 wire on the Sony Floppy Board by cutting it with a sharp knife Remove the PIN from the disk ? Yes Assuming that the red wire is '0', on the drive, where are PIN 9 and 20 ? Look on the Sony Floppy-Board and search the ribbon connection (mostly left bottom when the drive lays with insertion side awya from you): they're often marked with 1 (and below 2) on the left side of the double array PINs and 19 (and below 20) on the right side. I take the first MP-F51W-03 I found on my desk, hoping it is working. I don't know if it's a 1,44 or 800k drive ;) I may dismantle a Mac Plus later to get it's drive, may fit better in the lisa drive cage. You can count: 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 You will see PIN 9 and also PIN 20 connected to a bridge or/and to a resistor. Cut this connections! I take a picture: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jerome.vernet/images/MP-F51Wb.jpg Please confirm that I only have to cut the track that go from PIN 9 under cap C2 (*not* remove C2 !), and remove the RJ5 resistor ? I don't want to kill my Lisa board, killink the drive itself is not a problem... Thanks, anyway ! I never heard about this on the net before ! Jerome -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:28:07 +0100, Jerome Vernet wrote Guido Deiana a écrit : On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:06:00 +0100, Jerome Vernet wrote Hi Jerome, just work on the other side of the circuit board. Use a solder and take the pin 9 and 20 out of the board. It's immediate and this way you can restore the connections anytime. It look hard to remove the board to access the other side. I though about it, but removing the pin by desoldering it look hard. If macmomi confirm that I just have to cut the track from PIN 9 to RJ4 and PIN 20 to RJ5, i will do that, much more easy. The macplus from wich I take it is dead, so I can kill the drive too... The easy way, for me, was to insert a small screwdriver between the pins (on the other side) and, after to have applied the hot point of the solder on the 9 and 20 pin's hole, just taked out these pins from the holes. What happen if I plug the drive without that ? Kill the Lisa ? Doesn't work at all ? With the pins 9 and 20 inserted the 800K drive will continue infinitly to try to eject the floppy. If it's working (I hope ), the next problem is to fine a way to mount it in the Lisa drive bay, facing the eject mechanics of the drive to the Lisa disk hole. I have the MacPlus drive bay, look like it can fit (some holes to do, perhaps). I've used some cylindric spacers but the best wayit to get somewhere the cage supplied by SunRem for this upgrade. If you want I can check he exact dimentions of these spacers. Guido Jerome Ciao, Guido Deiana Padova, Italy -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com Guido -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive
Yes, that's what I said. There's no simpler way to do so Greetings TOM Am 26.02.2006 um 11:28 schrieb Jerome Vernet: If macmomi confirm that I just have to cut the track from PIN 9 to RJ4 and PIN 20 to RJ5, i will do that, much more easy. The macplus from wich I take it is dead, so I can kill the drive too... -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive
Hi Jerome, I take the first MP-F51W-03 I found on my desk, hoping it is working. I don't know if it's a 1,44 or 800k drive ;) That's a 800k Floppy-Drive I hope you understood the text correctly. You don't have to cut some connections on any Lisa-Board ONLY PIN 9 and PIN 20 from the connection to the ribbon-cable of any Mac 3,5 Floppy-Drive, whatever you can find. If you break that connection from the drives Board, you laten can resolder that connection again, simply using a wire and solder it on the two points again. C'est tout le meme chose, et n'est pas trés difficile - d'accord? TOM le Bavarois :-) -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive
Hi, So do I... And, not working !!! First try, simply by cutting wires 9 and 20 on the ribbon (I have some spare !): the 800k disk eject imediatly the disk. So I remove the resistor (desolering) on PIN 20, and cut track on the board for PIN 9. Tested again, the drive still eject the disk imediatly. I will check with a voltmeter if the track for PIN 9 is really cutted (how hard I have to cut ?). :( :( :( Jerome Le 26 févr. 06, à 12:47, macmoni a écrit : Hi Jerome, I take the first MP-F51W-03 I found on my desk, hoping it is working. I don't know if it's a 1,44 or 800k drive ;) That's a 800k Floppy-Drive I hope you understood the text correctly. You don't have to cut some connections on any Lisa-Board ONLY PIN 9 and PIN 20 from the connection to the ribbon-cable of any Mac 3,5 Floppy-Drive, whatever you can find. If you break that connection from the drives Board, you laten can resolder that connection again, simply using a wire and solder it on the two points again. C'est tout le meme chose, et n'est pas trés difficile - d'accord? TOM le Bavarois :-) -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- Wanadoo vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive
Hi Jerome, if the drive ejects the disks always, whether a disc is inserted or not, then you didn't cut the PIN 9 and PIN 20, that's all. You do not need to have some parts soldered out, just cut the cable or the wire on the board of the floppy TOM from Bavaria Am 26.02.2006 um 18:05 schrieb Jerome Vernet: Hi, So do I... And, not working !!! First try, simply by cutting wires 9 and 20 on the ribbon (I have some spare !): the 800k disk eject imediatly the disk. So I remove the resistor (desolering) on PIN 20, and cut track on the board for PIN 9. Tested again, the drive still eject the disk imediatly. I will check with a voltmeter if the track for PIN 9 is really cutted (how hard I have to cut ?). :( :( :( Jerome -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive
Le 26 févr. 06, à 20:46, macmoni a écrit : Hi Jerome, if the drive ejects the disks always, whether a disc is inserted or not, then you didn't cut the PIN 9 and PIN 20, that's all. You do not need to have some parts soldered out, just cut the cable or the wire on the board of the floppy Hi, I'm pretty sure that I had cut the right pin. take a look at my photo: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jerome.vernet/images/MP-F51Wb.jpg I put in red what i had removed, and the track cutted under the red cross. For the ribbon (20 wires), wire 1 is the red (colored, some time) and goes to the left on my picture. I count 9 wire, cut this one. I cut the last (20). Not working. It sould have worked ! It's equal to cut on the ribbon or remove the pin or cut track from the pin. So, I cut the track that goes to PIN 9 to a resistor -I ve checked that with un mutlivolter- then cut the 20th. Same thing... perhaps the drive is also dead, so I will retry with another one (without killing anything on the drive itself). I really need your grateful help, stay tuned ! Jerome -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive
Le 26 févr. 06, à 20:57, Jerome Vernet a écrit : perhaps the drive is also dead, so I will retry with another one (without killing anything on the drive itself). Ok, I've just tested with another drive (F75W, 1,44). This time, with the ribbon cutted in 9 and 20, I have exactly the same behavior than with the original disk. So, it's not the drive. It may be the Lite Adapter, wich is dead. :( No way to find one, I suppose... Or what else can I do ? There is two ribbon that can connect to the Lite Adapter. I usually use the first one, I've tested with the other with no success (the drive is not seen at all). I have two IO card, both tested with same behavior. I have in fact two back plane with CPU, IO and mem, same thing :( :( It all for today, I will bring the Lisa back to my stock for a long time... Thanks for your help ! jerome -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:20:52 +0100, Jerome Vernet wrote I have two IO card, both tested with same behavior. I have in fact two back plane with CPU, IO and mem, same thing :( :( It all for today, I will bring the Lisa back to my stock for a long time... Hi Jerome, I've had the same problems with the Lisa internal connectors oxided. The drive began to read for 1 second and after the floppy (tested working!) is ejected. Testing with a second complete (tested working) cards cage I've got the same results. Only after to have well cleaned the female connectors (these present internally on the Lisa case) with Sidol and a Dry Antioxidant Spray the floppy drive has began to works again. I hope my experience help you. Ciao, Guido -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive
I have two IO card, both tested with same behavior. I have in fact two back plane with CPU, IO and mem, same thing :( :( Last thing: my Lisa show a D/A8 ROM. While i'm testing, i get one time an error '23', that is, no system disk. That was when boot from 'disk 2' in the menu. never able to get it again... I try to see where the cable that connect main board to the Lite Adapter is connected, but I cannot see the connector without dismantle it all, I think. Jerome -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:36:11 +0100, Jerome Vernet wrote Le 26 févr. 06, à 21:31, Guido Deiana a écrit : Hi Jerome, I've had the same problems with the Lisa internal connectors oxided. The drive began to read for 1 second and after the floppy (tested working!) is ejected. Testing with a second complete (tested working) cards cage I've got the same results. Only after to have well cleaned the female connectors (these present internally on the Lisa case) with Sidol and a Dry Antioxidant Spray the floppy drive has began to works again. It may help, yes. I will try to check the connection between the Lite Adapter and the disk (tested with 2 different cable, connector on the Lite seems to be clean). Then, the ribbon between the board and the lite adapter: where this cable is connected to the mainboard? How I can remove it ? Jerome No. Is really difficult that the problem is on this side. Check the INTERNAL connectors where the card cage go to be inserted. Open the back cover, remove the card cage and clean the left big connector. Guido -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive
rome No. Is really difficult that the problem is on this side. Check the INTERNAL connectors where the card cage go to be inserted. Open the back cover, remove the card cage and clean the left big connector. Guido Guido, It's working !!! Thank you very much, all people ! I've cleaned as much as I can the contacts, and was able to read some disks ! I've tried the second board, it's a H/A8. It work, but for some point: I have the mouse when the pre boot process (choosing a disk), then no mouse, in macOs or in le Lisa 7/7 restore disk. Curious ? Not the good mouse ? Now, the next thing will be to install lisa OS on my second Profile. I will have a lot of questions ;) Have a good night, thank you all again ! Jerome -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive
Hi Jerome, you can use every MacIntosh Disk-Drive, e.g. the Sony F51W or F75W to replace the original OA D34V 3,5 Floppy Drive from Sony. Perhaps you have to add the Lisa Lite Card (depends on your Lisa). The only modifications are: Just pull PIN 9 and PIN 20 of the ribbon cable, when you use a 800k Mac Drive or the 1,44MB Mac Super Drive. So you can easily reduce your time of searching the cause for the Timeout-Error, by switching the complete Floppy-Drive. greetings TOM from Bavaria, the country with the marvellous castles of Koenig Ludwig, the Alps, the original Octoberfest in Munich... Am 25.02.2006 um 19:26 schrieb Jerome Vernet: Si, I come back for my disk drive: it's not working. I've dismantled it completly, greased everywhere, cleaned the head with special alcohol, then mounted it back and look how does it go when power up the Lisa, disk inserted: -head move to the outside of the disk -drive spin Waiting 3 minutes without anything, I don't know if the disk -Lisa 7/7- is good, then I have an IO Error 39 (Timeout). Starting the Lisa on the profile under MacOs, I 've inserted a disk. I got a message 'this disk is not a macintosh disk' immediatly (the head move a little, disk still spinning). Try to initialise: the Lisa eject (the head move very little) the disk immediatly with 'Initialization failed'. Any idea, advice ? The disk drive seems to be dead, anybody have a replacement disk drive for me, as I want to test Lisa OS instead MacOs... Thanks in advance. Jerome -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Lisa Disk Drive
macmoni a écrit : Hi Jerome, you can use every MacIntosh Disk-Drive, e.g. the Sony F51W or F75W to replace the original OA D34V 3,5 Floppy Drive from Sony. Perhaps you have to add the Lisa Lite Card (depends on your Lisa). The Lisa Lite Card is the little card in the disk cage ? The drive is connected to a little card, wich is itself connected to the mainboard. The only modifications are: Just pull PIN 9 and PIN 20 of the ribbon cable, when you use a 800k Mac Drive or the 1,44MB Mac Super Drive. You say I really can use any 1.44 drive ? To 'pull PIN 9 and PIN 20' do I need to cut the ribon ? Remove the PIN from the disk ? Assuming that the red wire is '0', on the drive, where are PIN 9 and 20 ? So you can easily reduce your time of searching the cause for the Timeout-Error, by switching the complete Floppy-Drive. I have plenty of 800k drive, but no 400k drive... Jerome -- LisaList is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Shop buy.com and save. http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html LisaList info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
