[REBOL] REBOL/View examples Re:

2000-06-02 Thread larry

Hi Bo

Very nice!  Everything works fine.

Cheers

Larry

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Subject: [REBOL] REBOL/View examples


> Here are some REBOL/View button examples which are pretty easy to
> do.
> 
> Have fun!
> -- 
>Bohdan "Bo" Lechnowsky
>REBOL  Adventure Guide
>REBOL Technologies 707-467-8000 (http://www.rebol.com)
>   Download the REBOL Messaging Language for all Platforms
> 




[REBOL] REBOL/View examples

2000-06-02 Thread bo

Here are some REBOL/View button examples which are pretty easy to
do.

Have fun!
-- 
   Bohdan "Bo" Lechnowsky
   REBOL  Adventure Guide
   REBOL Technologies 707-467-8000 (http://www.rebol.com)
  Download the REBOL Messaging Language for all Platforms

 buttons.r
 cyclefx.r
 poweredby.gif
 throb.r
 anim.r
 mail1.gif
 mail2.gif
 mail3.gif
 mail4.gif


[REBOL] /view stuff

2000-06-02 Thread Galt_Barber




Duh, is there a /view list?  I can't remember where it is if it is,
but please let me know if this is not good for the regular list.
I just started using /view with the latest beta 4.1 announcement.



I am finding that the viewer.r utility that came with rebol/view
is really cool, but unfortuntely, the load-ed jpgs are not released
from memory when the next picture is load-ed, or something.
On NT, you can watch the memory usage climb and climb higher
until eventually you get out-of-mem.

I remember somebody used to have a way to manually force
garbage collection, but I don't remember what it was and
I don't know if it would help anyway.
--

While fooling around with the same program,
I sorted the file-list in alphabetical order.

I also changed the viewer.r to add a button called jump.
I can type in a new name for the file and hit the jump
button.  It works, but there's something odd happening.

After the first one or two I can't get my mouse in the
name field, even though it is still yellow.
By chance I noticed that if I switch away to another
field I can then switch back to the first and the field
responds again.

(by the way, I don't think these two problems are related,
because the viewer.r was choking out-of-mem before
I ever started tweaking the file)

I might as well include the program since somebody
will probably be wondering what stuff I changed.

(See attached file: viewer.r)

(I have not yet noted my own fiddling in the rebol script header itself.)

-galt

 viewer.r


[REBOL] find/any doesn't seem to work on a list of file names (block of file! values) Re:

2000-06-02 Thread agem


>> find/any %abcd.txt %*.txt 
==  %abcd.txt  ;  file!
>> find/any %abcd.r %*.txt
==  none  ;  none!

and a loop around this.

Volker

> 
> find/any doesn't seem to work on a list of file names (block of file! values)
> I can do find without /any and if i give the entire filename as a file! value
> then it returns the name.  But if I want to find the first one starting with
> the letter g I can't say
>find/any files to file! "g*"
> and have it work.
> Instead it just returns none.
>find files to file! "greatstuff.txt"
> will work, assuming that file is in the list.
> 
> is this broke, or am I just having a overlooking something obvious?
> 
> galt
> 
> p.s. I only tested this on /View beta 4.1
> 
> 
> 
> 




[REBOL] re: find

2000-06-02 Thread Galt_Barber




oops - I assumed find worked on the whole list, but
only works on one element.

you have to do find on each element of the block to
find it with wild chars.

something seems non-intuitive about this arrangement.
If I wanted it to do just one element, I would just give
it one element.  If I want it to seach all the elements of
the block, and use wildcards, it should allow that.

how is this supposed to work?

find "dog" "dog"
works, giving head of string

find ["dog" "cat"] "dog"
works, giving head of list

find/any "dog" "d*"
works, giving head of string

find/any ["dog" "cat"] "d*"
does not work, gives none

Q: is there any scenario at all in which /any would
do anything when you are doing find on a block ?
And if it doesn't work, why doesn't the doc warn about that?
I foolishly assumed that it would find the first element in
the block that matched the string.

-galt






[REBOL] Re: One function per class Re:(2)

2000-06-02 Thread weirddream

Nazdarek [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 02-çen-00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> galt wrote:
>> Andrew, you play the fiddle?  I didn't know that!
>> I love playing the fiddle, too!  (although I seem
>> to spend more time playing with Rebol these days...)
> 
> Sorry, I meant fiddling as in playing or fooling around in REBOL.
> 
> :-)
> 
> Swaine in DDJ once mentioned that programmers have a high correlation with
> musicians. I wonder how much of a correlation there is with REBOL scripters
> and musicians there are on this list?
> 

Since 90s when I bought an Amiga and found Protracker2.3 (or was it ver
1.something? doesn't matter anyway...) I'm still trying and now I am member of
two local bands ( WEIRDDREAM - www.volny.cz/weirrdream and BULLERBYNE -
bullerbyne.musichall.cz (not sure with this - we STRONGLY need to update our
pages)) and I co-organized some parties in two or three clubs here in Brno,CZ.
With Bullerbyne we played in 1998 on JAM festival in Prague with Bjork, Banco
de Gaia, Apocalyptica...
Now sound interests me more than music and I'am trying to write modullar
synthesizer for REBOL. Partial results can be found on sintezar.bizland.com .

That's all, I think.


Regards
-- 
--you've been/byl jsi contacted/kontaktovan
---
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-www.volny.cz/weirddream






[REBOL] how do you move a file to another directory and preserve it's date? Re:(2)

2000-06-02 Thread kevin

Carl wrote:
> Is it possible to do this over all platforms?  Does anyone on the list know?  

Carl,

The utime() function allows you to change the access and modification 
times on *nix files, and appears to be supported under both SVr4 and 
BSD flavours.  I don't recall the Windows API call to do this, but I 
know it exists.

Brian wrote about wanting FTP support for setting dates, but as far as
I can tell, that functionality is not implemented by the protocol, 
even as a SITE command.

Cheers,
Kev


Kevin McKinnon, Network Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sunshine Communications http://www.sunshinecable.com

PGP Public Key: http://www.dockmaster.net/pgp.html   PGP 6.0 www.pgp.com




[REBOL] ooh aahh! view!!

2000-06-02 Thread Galt_Barber




--

Well, since nobody else got around to it,
I might as well kick it off!
OO
AA
OOhh Oohhh
Rebol/View is wonderful!!!



They say you should only put one idea in each e-mail to a discussion group
to keep things simple, but you know what? the world isn't...



I am still trying to digest all the goodies in  /View.
I suppose others are too, that must be why they are so quiet!

I just added a delete button to viewer.r which
moves an unwanted picture to a garbage directory,
and I did it without even reading the manual.
Way cool  !!!

-

By the way, lots of gui's let you dump a control at x,y,
but the real work for a lot of programmers is getting easy
layout of components as window size changes - having
it look good, work well, and be easy to program is what
anyone wants.  Are there examples of doing this yet?
Most of the demos I see have a non-resizable window/face.
I would assume that this is the kind of thing that the
flexible rebol language would excel at.
HOW IS IT DONE?
---

-galt

Oh, and thanks as usual for everybody's kind help.





[REBOL] find/any doesn't seem to work on a list of file names (block of file! values)

2000-06-02 Thread Galt_Barber




find/any doesn't seem to work on a list of file names (block of file! values)
I can do find without /any and if i give the entire filename as a file! value
then it returns the name.  But if I want to find the first one starting with
the letter g I can't say
   find/any files to file! "g*"
and have it work.
Instead it just returns none.
   find files to file! "greatstuff.txt"
will work, assuming that file is in the list.

is this broke, or am I just having a overlooking something obvious?

galt

p.s. I only tested this on /View beta 4.1





[REBOL] how do you move a file to another directory and preserve it's date? Re:

2000-06-02 Thread carl

Is it possible to do this over all platforms?  Does anyone on the list know?  


At 6/2/00 04:00 PM -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>
>how do you move a file to another directory and preserve it's date?
>
>I can't figure out how to do this.
>1) copying the file (write read %file) is the only I can find to move it.
>2) I can find the date on the file using modified? but I can't set it.
>3) there should be a move or copy function in rebol that preserves the date.
>
>if I missed the answer on this, sorry.
>thanks for you's help!
>
>galt
> 




[REBOL] how do you move a file to another directory and preserve it's date? Re:

2000-06-02 Thread brian . hawley

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>how do you move a file to another directory and preserve it's date?

You can't :(

>I can't figure out how to do this.
>1) copying the file (write read %file) is the only I can find to move it.
>2) I can find the date on the file using modified? but I can't set it.

I told feedback about this months ago, but I missed the answer that
tells me what reference number to use to follow up. Care to add your
own request to the fray?

>3) there should be a move or copy function in rebol that preserves the date.

Actually, I prefer a general function that allows you to set a file
date, preferably one with FTP support for files in FTP sites. You can
implement file copying in REBOL already - it's just setting the file
date that needs a native function.

Brian Hawley




[REBOL] http authorisation - how? Re:

2000-06-02 Thread brian . hawley

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>What I want to do is download a html page that requires authorisation.
>I tried inserting the user name and password in the same fashion as
>email downloading:
>
>read http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>but it gives "...server response: .. 401 Unauthorized."

There are two kinds of http authorization, basic and digest. Basic sends
a clear-text userid and password as part of the headers. Digest sends an
MD5 message digest of the password - it is newer and more secure.

At this point, REBOL only supports basic authentication. Apparently the
server you're connecting to doesn't downgrade to basic authentication
for security reasons.

You may be out of luck, Anton :(

Brian Hawley




[REBOL] Rebol layers [Official Answer] Re:(2)

2000-06-02 Thread tim

Hello All:
I am currently testing a cgi project with /View on my machine at home.
Once concluded, I will then upload the script to my domain, which 
has /core installed there.

I would presume that /core because of it's smaller size would load and
execute the script faster. If I'm correct, then that would be an advantage.

Also, I know that at least a couple of wireless companies that are
specifically
interested in /core because of the smaller footprint.

I'd welcome comments here on my assumption
Thanks
Tim
At 12:08 PM 6/2/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Yes.  View is built on Core.
>
>Currently, however, the Core used with View is 6 months beyond that
provided by the 2.2 Core on our web site.  It is our desire to fix that
with a 2.3 release.  But, if you need a more advanced (and bug fixed) Core,
use View.
>
>I have not used Core for several months... As View does all Core functions
plus more.
>
>-Carl
>
>
>At 6/2/00 11:12 AM -0400, you wrote:
>>(WinNT) (Amiga v. tomorrow...)
>>
>>What exactly is the relationship between Core and View?
>>
>>The latest View beta (nice installer!) creates a REBOL folder with a View
folder
>>inside it.
>>Should Core reside in a "Core" folder in the same REBOL folder? ie., since I
>>installed Core manually, I'll move it from it's current location and fix any
>>shortcuts, etc. Does View encapsulate all the Core functionality? If not,
why
>>are the EXEs named the same? Are the scripts that I downloaded while
installing
>>View the same ones that I got from www.rebol.com when I installed Core? What
>>about the documentation? 
>>
>>etc. etc. etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>Pete Wason|"LWATPLOTG"|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|CUCUG|TA|PHX
>>
>>Get a cool electronic checking account at: 
>>https://preview.x.com/new_account.asp?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>
>




[REBOL] how do you move a file to another directory and preserve it's date?

2000-06-02 Thread Galt_Barber




how do you move a file to another directory and preserve it's date?

I can't figure out how to do this.
1) copying the file (write read %file) is the only I can find to move it.
2) I can find the date on the file using modified? but I can't set it.
3) there should be a move or copy function in rebol that preserves the date.

if I missed the answer on this, sorry.
thanks for you's help!

galt





[REBOL] Rebol layers [Official Answer] Re:

2000-06-02 Thread carl

Yes.  View is built on Core.

Currently, however, the Core used with View is 6 months beyond that provided by the 
2.2 Core on our web site.  It is our desire to fix that with a 2.3 release.  But, if 
you need a more advanced (and bug fixed) Core, use View.

I have not used Core for several months... As View does all Core functions plus more.

-Carl


At 6/2/00 11:12 AM -0400, you wrote:
>(WinNT) (Amiga v. tomorrow...)
>
>What exactly is the relationship between Core and View?
>
>The latest View beta (nice installer!) creates a REBOL folder with a View folder
>inside it.
>Should Core reside in a "Core" folder in the same REBOL folder? ie., since I
>installed Core manually, I'll move it from it's current location and fix any
>shortcuts, etc. Does View encapsulate all the Core functionality? If not, why
>are the EXEs named the same? Are the scripts that I downloaded while installing
>View the same ones that I got from www.rebol.com when I installed Core? What
>about the documentation? 
>
>etc. etc. etc.
>
>
>
>-- 
>Pete Wason|"LWATPLOTG"|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|CUCUG|TA|PHX
>
>Get a cool electronic checking account at: 
>https://preview.x.com/new_account.asp?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 




[REBOL] Rebol layers Re:(3)

2000-06-02 Thread erin


  Hi,

  No "s". :)

http://www.rebol.com/developer.html

  Cheerfulness,

--- Documentation Creature

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Pekr, you've got a broken link!
> 
> > What
> > about the documentation?
> 
> Go to http://www.rebol.com/developers.html , there're links
> to various docs
> available ..


-- 
 Erin A. Thomas --- REBOL Technologies --- (707) 467-8004
 Distributed Computing Solutions 
  www.rebol.com 
  -




[REBOL] Rebol layers Re:(3)

2000-06-02 Thread Petr . Krenzelok



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Pekr, you've got a broken link!
>
> > What
> > about the documentation?
>
> Go to http://www.rebol.com/developers.html , there're links
> to various docs
> available ..

sorry ...
http://www.rebol.com/developer.html

on the other hand - don't be so lazy to look thru rebol website ;-)

-pekr-

>
>
> --




[REBOL] Re: What about a REBOL newsgroup

2000-06-02 Thread puetsch

Allen wrote:

> > I'd appreciate the idea of a newsgroup instead of a mailing list.
> > This has several advantages:
> >
> > * clearer threading
> > * easier to search for previous articles
> > * no hundreds of mails in the mailbox
> > * determining whether or not to read postings at a glance

* easier for people to perticipate without the need to 
subscribe/unsubscribe
* no tons of mails after holiday e.g. (think of dial-up connections) 
but rather view headers of recent discussions quickly.

> I actually find email is much easier to search and archive than news groups,

I disagree. Email ahs been developed for personal communciation 
whereas Newsgroup was designed to provide a fast, clear and easy way 
for discussion.

> and there is no spam on the mailinglist!

There list will sure land on spammer's adress books one day. If you 
plan to filter list contents you can write a cancelbot for the 
newsgroup as well. In my experience, spam is a problem for email 
rather than for well-visited newsgroups.

> You just need an email client with good filters and search facilities.

I have one (P.S.: You call Outlook good? SCNR), but still the amount 
of mails in my mailbox rises drastically. Mail is filtered at home. 
At work it's quite annoying to search personal mail between REBOL 
mail.

> But if you want to avoid email clutter then you can use, this link to read
> the threads from this list.
> 
> http://www.rebol.org/userlist/html/index.html

An online solution is not acceptible neither as I wish to do offline 
reading.

> I know it will happen one day, that a newsgroup starts up as volume gets
> large and a lot of people are posting,

I'm looking forward to this day ;-)

> I would imagine that a lot of key people
> would stay here and not even look at the newsgroups

Why should they do so? Ah, here it comes:

> as newgroups tend to have poor signal to noise ratio.

I disagree, too. Sure, it depends on the group, and on the quality of 
those who answer, too. I think this shouldn't make a problem.

> There are currently mail lists for these too. I'm not against newsgroups, I
> just don't feel there is enough volume to justify one yet, versus the
> benefits we have here.

IMHO 10-20 messages per day are well enough for a newsgroup.



Felix Pütsch

-- 
http://puetsch.tsx.org
HE FELT CPU SIX





[REBOL] Rebol layers Re:(2)

2000-06-02 Thread gdavie

Pekr, you've got a broken link!

> What
> about the documentation?

Go to http://www.rebol.com/developers.html , there're links
to various docs
available ..


--
 S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


[REBOL] Rebol layers THANKS ALL Re:(2)

2000-06-02 Thread zoon

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Have a nice day,
> 

THANKS ALL! ;-)

-- 
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Get a cool electronic checking account at: 
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[REBOL] Rebol layers Re:

2000-06-02 Thread Petr . Krenzelok



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> (WinNT) (Amiga v. tomorrow...)
>
> What exactly is the relationship between Core and View?

View is /Core + GUI

> The latest View beta (nice installer!) creates a REBOL folder with a View folder
> inside it.
> Should Core reside in a "Core" folder in the same REBOL folder? ie., since I
> installed Core manually, I'll move it from it's current location and fix any
> shortcuts, etc. Does View encapsulate all the Core functionality? If not, why
> are the EXEs named the same?

Yes, /View encapsulateds Core functionality. Noone answered the question so far if
there is going to be just one /Core .exe and other rebol "components", or RT will
take another aproach and each product (/Command, /View, etc.) will contain /Core +
additional components. Me and probably also others would like to see just one .exe -
/Core - the kernel, as in the other case we are risking incompatibilities, as we can
see nowadays ... standalone /Core development doesn't keep up to /View for more than
several months ...

What is missing more is - link between /View and /Command capabilities :-) But let
REBOL folks have their time to take the right decision for the future ...

> Are the scripts that I downloaded while installing
> View the same ones that I got from www.rebol.com when I installed Core?

Yes, they are the same. But in addition, current library set contains also scripts
for /View ...

> What
> about the documentation?

Go to http://www.rebol.com/developers.html , there're links to various docs
available ..

Have a nice day,

-pekr-

>
> etc. etc. etc.
>
> --
> Pete Wason|"LWATPLOTG"|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|CUCUG|TA|PHX
>
> Get a cool electronic checking account at:
> https://preview.x.com/new_account.asp?[EMAIL PROTECTED]




[REBOL] Rebol layers Re:

2000-06-02 Thread anton



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Does View encapsulate all the Core functionality?

Yes. (As far as I know. It might be a bit different, because Rebol/View has the most
attention now).

Anton.




[REBOL] What about a REBOL newsgroup Re:

2000-06-02 Thread ryanc

I dont care either way.  What I would like to know is if you ever get paid
with that notice at the bottom of your email?

--Ryan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I'd appreciate the idea of a newsgroup instead of a mailing list.
> This has several advantages:
>
> * clearer threading
> * easier to search for previous articles
> * no hundreds of mails in the mailbox
> * determining whether or not to read postings at a glance
>
> What about comp.lang.rebol? Later there could be even
> comp.lang.rebol.misc
> comp.lang.rebol.core
> comp.lang.rebol.view
> comp.lang.rebol.command
>
> etc.
>
> Felix Pütsch
>
> --
> http://puetsch.tsx.org
> UBE/UCE mails to any of my addresses are definitely not allowed. Sending
> such mails to my addresses constitutes an agreement of the sender and/or
> responsible but non cooperating provider to pay me a downloading, pro-
> cessing and archiving fee of US$ 500,00.




[REBOL] What about a REBOL newsgroup Re(2):

2000-06-02 Thread anton

Hi,

I tried setting up a newsgroup for rebol, but in the end I gave up. There is a
lot of work to do, and the support has to be there. When I first got into the
"yeah, let's have a newsgroup" vibe, it sounded like a great idea. Then quite a
few people wrote who were upset about the idea.
I persisted, thinking that more is better.

I did many hours of work, reading documents, emails etc. I gave up when I didn't
think that I could rally up enough votes to create the newsgroup. (I also got
really busy with school, and my *crappy* dialup connection was driving me to
despair)
That was last year...

I think we just need to make a web-accessible database of emails with nice
searching, threading etc. If it hasn't already been done...

Anton.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> - Original Message -
> From: Felix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 11:50 PM
> Subject: [REBOL] What about a REBOL newsgroup
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > I'd appreciate the idea of a newsgroup instead of a mailing list.
> > This has several advantages:
> >
> > * clearer threading
> > * easier to search for previous articles
> > * no hundreds of mails in the mailbox
> > * determining whether or not to read postings at a glance
> >
> I actually find email is much easier to search and archive than news groups,
> and there is no spam on the mailinglist! You just need an email client with
> good filters and search facilities.
>
> But if you want to avoid email clutter then you can use, this link to read
> the threads from this list.
>
> http://www.rebol.org/userlist/html/index.html
>
> I know it will happen one day, that a newsgroup starts up as volume gets
> large and a lot of people are posting, but currently we have a nice
> community here in the mailing list. I would imagine that a lot of key people
> would stay here and not even look at the newsgroups, as newgroups tend to
> have poor signal to noise ratio. The commitment of joining a mailing list
> seems to sort out a lot of chaff.
>
> > What about comp.lang.rebol? Later there could be even
> > comp.lang.rebol.misc
> > comp.lang.rebol.core
> > comp.lang.rebol.view
> > comp.lang.rebol.command
> >
> > etc.
>
> There are currently mail lists for these too. I'm not against newsgroups, I
> just don't feel there is enough volume to justify one yet, versus the
> benefits we have here.
>
> just my 2c (and we don't even have them in our money anymore!)
>
> Allen K




[REBOL] Rebol layers

2000-06-02 Thread zoon

(WinNT) (Amiga v. tomorrow...)

What exactly is the relationship between Core and View?

The latest View beta (nice installer!) creates a REBOL folder with a View folder
inside it.
Should Core reside in a "Core" folder in the same REBOL folder? ie., since I
installed Core manually, I'll move it from it's current location and fix any
shortcuts, etc. Does View encapsulate all the Core functionality? If not, why
are the EXEs named the same? Are the scripts that I downloaded while installing
View the same ones that I got from www.rebol.com when I installed Core? What
about the documentation? 

etc. etc. etc.



-- 
Pete Wason|"LWATPLOTG"|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|CUCUG|TA|PHX

Get a cool electronic checking account at: 
https://preview.x.com/new_account.asp?[EMAIL PROTECTED]




[REBOL] http authorisation - how?

2000-06-02 Thread anton

Hi,

Sorry if I missed the email that explains this already - I just started
using rebol at work.

What I want to do is download a html page that requires authorisation.
I tried inserting the user name and password in the same fashion as
email downloading:

read http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

but it gives "...server response: .. 401 Unauthorized."

Help me somebody!

Anton.




[REBOL] What about a REBOL newsgroup Re:

2000-06-02 Thread allenk


- Original Message -
From: Felix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 11:50 PM
Subject: [REBOL] What about a REBOL newsgroup


> Hi!
>
> I'd appreciate the idea of a newsgroup instead of a mailing list.
> This has several advantages:
>
> * clearer threading
> * easier to search for previous articles
> * no hundreds of mails in the mailbox
> * determining whether or not to read postings at a glance
>
I actually find email is much easier to search and archive than news groups,
and there is no spam on the mailinglist! You just need an email client with
good filters and search facilities.

But if you want to avoid email clutter then you can use, this link to read
the threads from this list.

http://www.rebol.org/userlist/html/index.html


I know it will happen one day, that a newsgroup starts up as volume gets
large and a lot of people are posting, but currently we have a nice
community here in the mailing list. I would imagine that a lot of key people
would stay here and not even look at the newsgroups, as newgroups tend to
have poor signal to noise ratio. The commitment of joining a mailing list
seems to sort out a lot of chaff.

> What about comp.lang.rebol? Later there could be even
> comp.lang.rebol.misc
> comp.lang.rebol.core
> comp.lang.rebol.view
> comp.lang.rebol.command
>
> etc.

There are currently mail lists for these too. I'm not against newsgroups, I
just don't feel there is enough volume to justify one yet, versus the
benefits we have here.

just my 2c (and we don't even have them in our money anymore!)


Allen K






[REBOL] What about a REBOL newsgroup

2000-06-02 Thread puetsch

Hi!

I'd appreciate the idea of a newsgroup instead of a mailing list. 
This has several advantages:

* clearer threading
* easier to search for previous articles
* no hundreds of mails in the mailbox
* determining whether or not to read postings at a glance

What about comp.lang.rebol? Later there could be even
comp.lang.rebol.misc
comp.lang.rebol.core
comp.lang.rebol.view
comp.lang.rebol.command

etc.



Felix Pütsch

-- 
http://puetsch.tsx.org
UBE/UCE mails to any of my addresses are definitely not allowed. Sending
such mails to my addresses constitutes an agreement of the sender and/or
responsible but non cooperating provider to pay me a downloading, pro-
cessing and archiving fee of US$ 500,00.





[REBOL] Re: dialect ?

2000-06-02 Thread puetsch

> -- Carl, you keep talking about "Dialects" 
> -- as being the greatest feature of  REBOL.
> -- In my opionion, we still need about
> -- 12 more good articles, tutorials, how-to's on
> -- how to develop your own "domain specific dialects".

> think about it: you can define the keyword , the syntax and grammar of the
> context it's really one of the most powerfull feature of the rebol
> familly.

I'd like to see some instructing examples, too.

Felix Pütsch

-- 
http://puetsch.tsx.org
'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in a rather scornful tone,
'it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less.'
-Lewis Carroll [Through the Looking Glass]





[REBOL] BSD/OS help Re:(3)

2000-06-02 Thread ralph


> > I had the exact same problem when first trying to run REBOL
> last year. 3.0
> > does not support REBOL. The only cure is to upgrade to BSDI
> BSD/OS 4.0 or
> > later. It's worth the effort!
>
> Thanks Ralph, but unfortunatelly it's not my server, I only have
> a site on it.
> You can give me arguments to convince the owner to make the
> upgrade? Other new
> features, anything to impress him?
>

I would ask him to read the new http://rebol.com web site. That should
excite him.

best,

--Ralph





[REBOL] BSD/OS help Re:(2)

2000-06-02 Thread s123456789

Hi!

> I had the exact same problem when first trying to run REBOL last year. 3.0
> does not support REBOL. The only cure is to upgrade to BSDI BSD/OS 4.0 or
> later. It's worth the effort!

Thanks Ralph, but unfortunatelly it's not my server, I only have a site on it.
You can give me arguments to convince the owner to make the upgrade? Other new 
features, anything to impress him?

Thanks in advance,
A.D.ing
http://www.zonator.com




[REBOL] Creating variables

2000-06-02 Thread Markus . Zmija

Is it possible to create variables or instances of objects during run time?

Thanks in advance !

Markus Zmija





[REBOL] REBOL in a network environment

2000-06-02 Thread newlook

  I've been tooling around with REBOL since its beta stages and recently
found (finally..) some uses for it on our in house network.

  What I would like to do is to keep the executable available on one of
our network samba shares but use the REBOL_HOME environment variable to
tell the exe to look at the users shared home dir during the netlogin
procedure.  The problem that arises is that a SET REBOL_HOME=:\rebol\ during the netlogin procedure doesn't _stick_ under
Windows.  Anyone with any experience in such a setup with REBOL?

  All clients are Win98 machines, servers are Linux x86.  In a nutshell,
I would like to keep away from having to have the REBOL executable
installed on every machine and to keep the user.r, rebol.r startup
scripts on the network shares to ease in backups.

--
Regards,
Deryk Robosson

Systems Administration
iiTowns Ltd.
107 Lockyer Ave.
Albany, Western Australia
6330





[REBOL] Script Library Files

2000-06-02 Thread carl

If you have not downloaded the new scripting library, it is worth doing so.  All 177 
scripts can be obtained by downloading a single file:

  http://www.rebol.com/library/library.rip  (about 110KB)

>From REBOL you can directly expand the library with the line:

  do read/binary http://www.rebol.com/library/library.rip

Run the build-lib.r script found in the library, and it will create a local HTML  
directory of all scripts.  NOTE: use the *new* build-lib.r that I just uploaded 
tonight... it provides better feedback and fixes the rebol-banner.gif problem.

For those of you who want your library files in separate directories sorted by primary 
topic, the script below will do the job.

-Carl



REBOL [
Title: "Sort Library Files by Category"
File:   %sort-lib-files.r
Date:   2-Jun-2000
Author: "Carl Sassenrath"
Purpose: {
Copies REBOL script library files into subdirectories under
the primary categories.
}
Category: [script util file 3]
]

main-categories: [view email web net file script text util]

;-- Make directories for each main category:
foreach category main-categories [
dir: to-file category
if not exists? dir [make-dir dir]
]

;-- Copy files into category directories:
foreach file read %. [
if all [
script? file
header: first load/header file
in header 'category
][
foreach category main-categories [
if find header/category category [
dir: to-file category
print ["Copying:" dir/:file]
write dir/:file read :file
]
]
]
]