name of the bloke ......

2001-09-18 Thread Greg McCarroll


Whats the name of the mad bloke who lives near Dave, you know the one
that things the BBC are reading his thoughts as they are secret agents
of MI5 or some such.

Greg

-- 
Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/




Re: Bomb the ISPs!

2001-09-18 Thread aef

Paul Makepeace wrote:
 
 ``The Daily Telegraph is calling for the bombing of uncompliant ISPs
 on foreign territory, in response to the atrocity in America.''

 The funny thing is, when I read that Telegraph article,
is that I read it as a warning about what the US might
do, not a call for them to do it.

 Tony




Re: The best film of all time?

2001-09-18 Thread Redvers Davies

 Difficult call. I just hope I'm never in a burning building
 with the last remaining copy of each, and only enough time to rescue
 one.

You have just reminded me of an excellent BT Health and Safety quiz
I once had while there.  In a large building in which we assume is on
fire... we have somebody in a wheelchair in one of the upper floors...

Do you, use the lift in this case?

The answer was no... but they couldn't tell us what we were s'posed to do.




Re: The best film of all time?

2001-09-18 Thread Tony Bowden

On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 10:45:37PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
 I've never seen what people see in this.  Here's my top few, in no
 particular order:
 Paths to Glory

Don't know this one ...

Do you mean Paths of Glory?

Tony





RE: name of the bloke ......

2001-09-18 Thread Dave Cross


From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9/18/01 8:14:10 AM

 Whats the name of the mad bloke who lives near Dave, you 
 know the one that things the BBC are reading his thoughts 
 as they are secret agents of MI5 or some such.

Mike Corley (aka Tadeusz Szocik).

And he lives near Clapham North - not as close to me as I originally
thought.

Dave...

-- 
http://www.dave.org.uk

Mention The Lord of the Rings just once more and I'll more than
likely kill you,
Moorcock! Moorcock! Michael Moorcock! you fervently moan.
   - Half Man Half Biscuit (Dickie Davies Eyes)








Re: name of the bloke ......

2001-09-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 Mike Corley (aka Tadeusz Szocik).
 

thanks, i was just checking to see if he had any crazy theories
about the US bombings. unfortunatly its all me me me with him,

still at least we have ESR,

ho hum,

Greg

-- 
Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/




Re: NMS [formmail]

2001-09-18 Thread Sam Vilain

I hear that one problem with that script is the security problem that if
it is not altered, then it is possible to send mail from any address,
effectively allowing you to spam with it.

What I suggest for NMS scripts is that they have an internal configuration
function, whereby the script will refuse to run unless it is configured. 
In fact, if it is unconfigured, then present a configuration interface,
unless they can't find an appropriate place writable to store
configuration.  In that case, instructions are presented for logging into
their ftp account and making a world-writable directory for the script to
write to (perhaps this could be a URL to a NMS help system), or
instructions for manually customising the script to close security holes
etc.

Sound good?

Sam.

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:06:02 +0100
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've just released a first draft of FormMail. It's at 
 
 http://www.dave.org.uk/nms/
 
 I would have put it in CVS on penderel, but it seems to be configured so
 that only Greg can use it :)
 
 Incidently, perlfaq9 says that when using sendmail from a Perl script,
you
 should use the flags -oi -t -odq. I found that when I used -odq, the 
 mail wasn't delivered. Any ideas why that might be?
 
 Dave...
 
 -- 
 
   Don't dream it... be it
 




Re: Bomb the ISPs!

2001-09-18 Thread Simon Wistow

 ``The Daily Telegraph is calling for the bombing of uncompliant ISPs
 on foreign territory, in response to the atrocity in America.''
 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/57/21694.html

Umm, the article doesn't actually say what The Register implied.

The whole article is a bit tongue in cheek.


-- 
: suddenly, a narcoleptic argentinian fell through my ceiling




Re: NMS [formmail]

2001-09-18 Thread Dave Cross


From: Sam Vilain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9/18/01 9:49:42 AM

 I hear that one problem with that script is the security 
 problem that if it is not altered, then it is possible to 
 send mail from any address, effectively allowing you to 
 spam with it.

In the latest version of FormMail (1.9, released August 2001[1])
there's a new security feature, an array called @recipients which
defines the valid set of recipients for the mail. This is meant
to prevent spam being sent using the script.

I've incorporated this fix in my version, so feel free to take
a look and see what you think.

 What I suggest for NMS scripts is that they have an 
 internal configuration function, whereby the script will 
 refuse to run unless it is configured. In fact, if it is 
 unconfigured, then present a configuration interface,
 unless they can't find an appropriate place writable to 
 store configuration.  In that case, instructions are 
 presented for logging into their ftp account and making a 
 world-writable directory for the script to write to 
 (perhaps this could be a URL to a NMS help system), or
 instructions for manually customising the script to close 
 security holes etc.

 Sound good?

Happy to consider things like this as long as they don't violate
the overriding rules of NMS.

1/ Drop in replacements for MSA. Nothing harder to use than in
the MSA versions.

2/ Runs using only features and modules available with the standard
distribution of Perl 5.004_04.

If you have a plan, please let me know.

Dave...

[1] He seems to be updating things a little more often recently.

-- 
http://www.dave.org.uk

Mention The Lord of the Rings just once more and I'll more than
likely kill you,
Moorcock! Moorcock! Michael Moorcock! you fervently moan.
   - Half Man Half Biscuit (Dickie Davies Eyes)








Re: The worst film of all time (The best film of all time?)

2001-09-18 Thread Alex Gough

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, James Powell wrote:
 How about the worst
 
 Course, I have tried to avoid the real howlers (mad cows, up 'n' under,
 etc).
 

X-Men generation X, for showing *so* much promise but falling over every
time it nearly got good.

Hawk the Slayer, but I did like the bits with the ping pong balls.

Alex Gough





Re: The best film of all time?

2001-09-18 Thread Alex Gough

 Almost forgot...
 
 In the Heat of the Night 

Yes, and, worst of all to forget (but not in terms of chatty volume):

 Kind Hearts and Coronets

Alex Gough






Re: The best film of all time?

2001-09-18 Thread David Cantrell

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 08:28:09AM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 10:45:37PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
  Paths to Glory
 
 Don't know this one ...
 Do you mean Paths of Glory?

Yes, as I said in a later post :-)

-- 
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david

  We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity
  has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
-- Richard Dawkins




Re: NMS [formmail]

2001-09-18 Thread David Cantrell

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 09:49:42AM +0100, Sam Vilain wrote:

 What I suggest for NMS scripts is that they have an internal configuration
 function, whereby the script will refuse to run unless it is configured. 
 In fact, if it is unconfigured, then present a configuration interface
 
 Sound good?

The first two lines do.

-- 
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david

  We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity
  has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
-- Richard Dawkins




Re: champagne

2001-09-18 Thread Leon Brocard

Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
 
 So what Champagne do you recommend? I know we have the great and the
 good on the list and also the french (who may be actually useful
 in this case)

http://www.clicquot.com/wineries/wine.asp?winery=krug
Krug. Grande Cuvee is nice. I like Clos du Mesnil too.

Oh, you said reasonably priced? ;-) Well, you're going to be
surprised, but I really like the sparkling white (and rose) wine:
http://www.mummcuveenapa.com/home/

Leon
-- 
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/

... All life's answers are on TV. - Bart Simpson




Re: The best film of all time?

2001-09-18 Thread Jasper McCrea

Paul Mison wrote:
 
 On 17/09/2001 at 18:31 +0100, Jasper McCrea wrote:
 Not replying to too many posts here, because it'd be controversial (esp.
 since someone mentioned a Peter Greenaway film (and they were being
 serious!!))
 
 Of course I was. His films are good, even if that is in a slightly
 obvious way (the use of colours in Cook, Thief, for example); I really
 like the almost multimedia aspects of the split screen stuff in Pillow
 Book, too.
 
 How many of his films have you seen, out of interest?

Three. Drowning by Numbers I thought was good when I first saw it, but
on reviewing a few years ago, I realised I must have been a pretentious
fool to think that such a mish mash of confusing trash was any good.
Prospero's Books was so bad I fell asleep at the cinema (something I
also did during the Matrix, but in PB I didn't wake up again), and
Cook... was just ordinary, in terms of art films. (IMO!!!)
 
 The Empire Strikes Back
 
 OK, so earlier I admitted this was the best of the trilogy, but that
 doesn't qualify it as best film by a long way. It's not even best
 sci-fi film (no-one's mentioned 2001 yet, or the David Lynch version of
 Dune- there was a good article about this in Sight and Sound last
 month).

If it (rating films) were objective, then this might be a correct
statement. The best sci-fi film (IMO) is probably Blade Runner, but I'd
still consider ESB to be one of the best films overall. (2001 and Dune
are probably both a little bit too confusing to be great - 2001 because
it's just silly [in a good way], and Dune because it tried to pack too
much in [although I saw this in the cinema with a friend who hadn't read
the book, and he enjoyed it too, so maybe I'm wrong here]).
 
 Jaws
 
 Oh dear, the flipside to Star Wars and one of the movies that started
    ??
I don't understand? Are you saying that while Jaws was a
popcorn-satisfying, no risk taking commercially successful, LCD Star
Wars was the complete opposite? I know Lucas had a hard time convincing
anyone to make this movie, but was Jaws such a sure fire box-office
winner?

 turning Hollywood from being critically acclaimed, risk-taking, albeit
 commercially unsuccessful to a popcorn-satisfying
 'vertically-integrated' lowest common denominator pleasing blockbuster
 factory, producing summer 'blockbusters' of increasing explosion count
 and less and less acting talent.

Have you watched Jaws lately? Perhaps it started this trend, by being a
dynamic film, but there is no way you could consider it lacking in
acting talent (the three key players are a joy to watch), directing,
story (certainly the weakest link, but still not as tissue thin as other
movies) or cinematography. Just because it is also throughly enjoyable
does not mean that you should discard it so lightly.

 The fact that films between, roughly, Easy Rider and Jaws tended to
 have depressing and/or ambiguous endings is purely coincental.
 
 Worst movie of all time:
 Citizen Kane or the Piano. It's a toss up between these two.
 
 Oh dear oh dear. The Piano is a wonderful film; admittedly there's not
 that much depth there, but there are some beatiful shots, and it has a
 hard edge that many period dramas lack.

No, it's bloody awful. It substitutes visual effect for substance in
every way. The Cell did a similar thing a few years later, with almost
every shot being beautiful, but at the neglect of everything else. I
think it was a more successful film than the Piano for this, but it was
still rubbish.

 Admittedly I wouldn't go along
 with the critical orthodoxy that Citizen Kane is the best film ever,
 but it's a shitload better than, say, Independence Day or Stealing
 Beauty (elderly art director in wannabe soft porn that fails shock).

In an historically interesting way it (CK) has its plusses, but to hail
it for its technical magnificence is anachronistic. We stand on the
shoulders of giants and our accomplishments certainly wouldn't be
possible without them (Welles is among the greats of cinema), but we
shouldn't hang around claiming that what they did then was better than
what came after. Except if you're talking about shite like Independence
Day. But I didn't mention that. 

Your description of Stealing Beauty interests me... :)

We could all talk about films all day, I guess, and still come to no
concensus, not that I mind a stimulating conversation.
 
 foreach(0.. # my
 $#_){$_[$_  # signature is too
 ++]^=$_[$_  # bignature
 
 Make it smaller then... oh, and it doesn't work on MacPerl (5.004) either.

Don't wanna.. Go on, use Burger King Perl (£2.99 meal)
instead. Or at least a slightly up to date version.
 

Jasper
-- 
  split//,'019617511192'.
  '1701610114101114'.
  '21011141011840799901'.
'17101174';
foreach(0.. # my
$#_){$_[$_  # signature is too
++]^=$_[$_  # bignature
   

Re: Bomb the ISPs!

2001-09-18 Thread Jonathan Peterson

Simon Wistow wrote:
 
  ``The Daily Telegraph is calling for the bombing of uncompliant ISPs
  on foreign territory, in response to the atrocity in America.''
 
  http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/57/21694.html
 
 Umm, the article doesn't actually say what The Register implied.
 
 The whole article is a bit tongue in cheek.

Thank God some people are sane. I've been reading various Telegraph
recommends bombing ISPs stories all weekend, and had started to think
it was just me who interpreted the original piece as more a conjecture
about where US policy might eventually lead than anything else.

It would be a shame if John Keegan tarnished his otherwise good
reputation as a military commentator.

-- 
Jonathan Peterson
Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: The worst film of all time (The best film of all time?)

2001-09-18 Thread Lucy McWilliam


On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, will wrote:

 How about the worst

How about the 'so bad they're good'?


L.
I suffer from acute nymphomania and own a brewery.





JOB WANTED: Perl Programmer

2001-09-18 Thread Leon Brocard

I'm currently looking for a permanent job at an exciting Perl / Apache
/ mod_perl / Linux company in London. Please mail me offlist:
http://www.astray.com/cv/

Cheers, Leon
-- 
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/

... But I don't like Spam!




Re: JOB WANTED: Perl Programmer

2001-09-18 Thread Newton, Philip

Leon Brocard wrote:
 I'm currently looking for a permanent job

http://213.178.134.60/

Cheers,
Philip




































(sorry, couldn't resist.)
-- 
Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.




Re: News gateway?

2001-09-18 Thread Newton, Philip

Paul Mison wrote:
 It doesn't scratch an itch I have, but if Philip can collar the right
 people who have accounts on penderel it'd be an interesting project
 but

Not my itch, either (as I said), but I could try to help, I suppose.

Would enough people be in favour of the thing to make it worth while?

Regardless of that, I suppose Red could go ahead and give the setup a try,
couldn't he?

Cheers,
Philip
-- 
Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.




Re: NMS [formmail]

2001-09-18 Thread Newton, Philip

Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 11:06:02PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
  
  Incidently, perlfaq9 says that when using sendmail from a 
  Perl script, you should use the flags -oi -t -odq. I found
  that when I used -odq, the 

Well, I would have said you can use the flags rather than you should use
the flags, but yes.

 I would also recommend '-oem'.

What's that do? Something about emailing the originator on any problems?

 -odq is a queue only switch, according to my copy of the 
 Bat Book. Thus the mail will sit in the queue until a queue
 run happens.

While MBM answered your question, Dave, I'd like to point out that you could
have found out yourself with a bit more RTFM'ing :)

: and -odq says to put the message into the queue. This last
: option means your message won't be immediately delivered, so
: leave it out if you want immediate delivery.

(From `perldoc -q send mail` on Perl v5.6.0, but I'm fairly certain that
passage was in the 5.005_03 docs as well.)

Cheers,
Philip
-- 
Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.




Re: The worst film of all time (The best film of all time?)

2001-09-18 Thread Stray Toaster

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:06:58AM +0100, Alex Gough wrote:
 X-Men generation X, for showing *so* much promise but falling over every
 time it nearly got good.

Gah, and Emma Frost was *so* wrong.

My vote goes for 'Lost in Space'. Awful.

m.

-- 
Isn't it nice?
Sugar and spice
Leading Disco Dollies to a
Life of vice




RE: [JOB] Programmer for database-driven websites

2001-09-18 Thread Dave Cross


From: Simon Batistoni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9/18/01 12:19:29 PM

 Well, these sorts of posts are scarcer than they used to 
 be, but I figure someone here might be interested in 
 this, or know someone outside the hallowed london.pm 
 circle who would be. :)

[snip]

Gotta love that synchronicity :)

Simon meet Leon, Leon meet Simon!

Dave...

-- 
http://www.dave.org.uk

Mention The Lord of the Rings just once more and I'll more than
likely kill you,
Moorcock! Moorcock! Michael Moorcock! you fervently moan.
   - Half Man Half Biscuit (Dickie Davies Eyes)








Re: The best film of all time?

2001-09-18 Thread Jonathan Peterson

Newton, Philip wrote:
 
 Lucy McWilliam wrote:
  [0] Due to $boyf[1]
 
 That sounds like my second boyfriend :) (Hm, I wonder what 'scalar @boyf'
 is, then?)

Not to mention length $boyf[1]

:-O

-- 
Jonathan Peterson
Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Heh.

2001-09-18 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 01:01:22PM +0200, Newton, Philip wrote:
 David H. Adler wrote:
  http://www.tartarus.org/~simon/kmt.png
 
 The requested URL /~simon/kmt.png was not found on this server.

Dang.  I'll see if I can dig it up elsewhere...

dha
-- 
David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/
They'll need a crane.
- They Might Be Giants




Re: The best film of all time?

2001-09-18 Thread Simon Wilcox

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:


 For me the best films of all time would be,

Just caught up with this thread whilst eating possibly the largest baked
potato I have ever seen. Yum :-)

Anyway, in addition to lots of good films already mentioned, I would add:

Shawshank Redemption # Mentioned already but one of my favourites !
Das Boot # for the same reason :-)

Silent Running   # For some reason I just love this film.
Hackers  # Yes I know it's cheesy but I like it :-P
Once Were Warriors   # Gritty.
Romper Stomper   # Frightening (Russell Crowe is actually v. good)
Ice Cold In Alex # Err, just because
Angels One Five  # sapper calling
Reach for the Sky# (1956)
The Cruel Sea# Saw it the other day and it's great

And me only 100 years old too [1].

Simon.

[1] In base 4. (ooh, thread flashback !)





Re: The best film of all time?

2001-09-18 Thread Redvers Davies


Most if not all of my top films have been mentioned already...

memento
rhps
dr strangelove
leon
the breakfast club
The princess bride
shock treatment [0]

Red

[0] or at least it would be if I could find ANYWHERE where I could
buy it on DVD (or VCD).





Re: Mail bounce, grumble grumble...

2001-09-18 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 09:32:13PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
 Sorry to send this to the list.  I tried to write privatly to a
 member of the list and their MTA hates me (sob). [0]

Well, according to someone on exim-users (who I've been in a flamewar
with - just for a change):
http://www.exim.org/pipermail/exim-users/Week-of-Mon-20010917/030167.html

|   I never make any exceptions for problems that are not my own.  If some
|   sender has a broken MTA or DNS configuration then they can fix it if
|   they want to send me e-mail.
|  This attitude unfortunately doesn't work. Which is a pity.
| I thin you need to re-read my message.  My approach to this problem
| definitely does work.  It has worked in every single instance.  There
| have been no exceptions whatsoever.  It is guaranteed to work, in fact!
| You simply have to lay down the rules and if people really want to send
| you e-mail they will fix their configurations whether they think it's
| necessary or not.  If they don't want to send you e-mail then you don't
| have to worry about it.

It doesn't *hate* you yet. The log suggests irritated=28000ms. Hate is
when it gets to furious (around 60ms).

 [0] BIG pet hate.  ISP's deciding what mail a customer is allowed to recieve.

My ISP doesn't. Colon does. It's my machine. Using SAUCE is the only way I'm
happy to advertise my address on the public internet.

An MX record should point to a canonical name, not a DNS alias.
| [mbm@colon]:~$ adnshost -t mx- madhouse.org.uk
| madhouse.org.uk MX 20 mail.madhouse.org.uk
| [mbm@colon]:~$ adnshost mail.madhouse.org.uk
| mail.madhouse.org.uk CNAME insanity.madhouse.org.uk
| insanity.madhouse.org.uk A INET 195.74.114.69

what is wrong with either:
(a)
 madhouse.org.uk  IN MX 20 mail.madhouse.org.uk
 mail.madhouse.org.uk IN A 195.74.114.69
 insanity.madhouse.org.uk IN A 195.74.114.69

or (b)
 madhouse.org.uk  IN MX 20 insanity.madhouse.org.uk
 insanity.madhouse.org.uk IN A 195.74.114.69

Please fix it, then you'll have no problems sending me email. :-)

Your mail server will also need a reverse DNS:
| [mbm@colon]:~$ adnshost -i 195.74.114.69
| 69.114.74.195.in-addr.arpa does not exist

You have nameservers (according to ripe) at ns.enta.net and ns.webstash.com
providing the zone for 114.74.195.in-addr.arpa.

(I'm sorry I'm doing this, I want some ammo that the argument presented in
 the email I have just doesn't work, mainly to satisfy myself, as I don't
 intend to carry on that flamewar... :-)

MBM

-- 
Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://colondot.net/




Re: Mail bounce, grumble grumble...

2001-09-18 Thread Dave Cross

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:54:04PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 09:32:13PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
  Sorry to send this to the list.  I tried to write privatly to a
  member of the list and their MTA hates me (sob). [0]
 
 Well, according to someone on exim-users (who I've been in a flamewar
 with - just for a change):
 http://www.exim.org/pipermail/exim-users/Week-of-Mon-20010917/030167.html
 
 |   I never make any exceptions for problems that are not my own.  If some
 |   sender has a broken MTA or DNS configuration then they can fix it if
 |   they want to send me e-mail.
 |  This attitude unfortunately doesn't work. Which is a pity.
 | I thin you need to re-read my message.  My approach to this problem
 | definitely does work.  It has worked in every single instance.  There
 | have been no exceptions whatsoever.  It is guaranteed to work, in fact!
 | You simply have to lay down the rules and if people really want to send
 | you e-mail they will fix their configurations whether they think it's
 | necessary or not.  If they don't want to send you e-mail then you don't
 | have to worry about it.
 
 It doesn't *hate* you yet. The log suggests irritated=28000ms. Hate is
 when it gets to furious (around 60ms).
 
  [0] BIG pet hate.  ISP's deciding what mail a customer is allowed to recieve.
 
 My ISP doesn't. Colon does. It's my machine. Using SAUCE is the only way I'm
 happy to advertise my address on the public internet.
 
 An MX record should point to a canonical name, not a DNS alias.
 | [mbm@colon]:~$ adnshost -t mx- madhouse.org.uk
 | madhouse.org.uk MX 20 mail.madhouse.org.uk
 | [mbm@colon]:~$ adnshost mail.madhouse.org.uk
 | mail.madhouse.org.uk CNAME insanity.madhouse.org.uk
 | insanity.madhouse.org.uk A INET 195.74.114.69
 
 what is wrong with either:
 (a)
  madhouse.org.uk  IN MX 20 mail.madhouse.org.uk
  mail.madhouse.org.uk IN A 195.74.114.69
  insanity.madhouse.org.uk IN A 195.74.114.69
 
 or (b)
  madhouse.org.uk  IN MX 20 insanity.madhouse.org.uk
  insanity.madhouse.org.uk IN A 195.74.114.69
 
 Please fix it, then you'll have no problems sending me email. :-)
 
 Your mail server will also need a reverse DNS:
 | [mbm@colon]:~$ adnshost -i 195.74.114.69
 | 69.114.74.195.in-addr.arpa does not exist
 
 You have nameservers (according to ripe) at ns.enta.net and ns.webstash.com
 providing the zone for 114.74.195.in-addr.arpa.
 
 (I'm sorry I'm doing this, I want some ammo that the argument presented in
  the email I have just doesn't work, mainly to satisfy myself, as I don't
  intend to carry on that flamewar... :-)

Ah, well this would explain why mail I sent you last week bounced too.

I have exactly the opposite view to the person on the Exim list. If I
send someone mail and for some reason their MTA is configured to believe
that my mail isn't worth receiving then that's _their_ problem.

And IIRC, the message I got back wsn't exactly enlightening.

Dave...

-- 

  Don't dream it... be it




Re: Heh.

2001-09-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:

 Actually, my reliable source *is* the artist.  So nerr :-P


I dont believe you - how can an artist be described as reliable 

/J\





Re: Heh.

2001-09-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 04:21:42PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
  On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
   Actually, my reliable source *is* the artist.  So nerr :-P
  I dont believe you - how can an artist be described as reliable 

 Have you ever used PuTTY on windows?


No I tend to use evostick to keep the glass in - more reliable and you can
sniff it afterwards

/J\