Of Plum Beer and Stewed Heads
* Chris Ball ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thanks for a fun and plum-beer-enabled meet at the Pillars of Hercules tonight for those who were there; we managed to drink all of the plum beer, which is clearly an achievement worth celebrating. :-) Unfortunatly there wasn't any more plum beer to celebrate it with. However I must say I heartily recommend the Pillars of Hercules for small get togethers, they really do have wonderful beers on every time I go there. Hmm, this really is a contentless message, however on the bright side its not going to spark off a thread that ends up quoting from e-mail RFC's sooner or later ;-) Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
David M. Wilson wrote: Or how about the bandwidth I'm about to waste by posting this reply? What I want to know is this: If each message I send cost hundreds, if not thousands of dollars to post, then where's my cut of all that revenue generated? A
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
* Andy Wardley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What I want to know is this: If each message I send cost hundreds, if not thousands of dollars to post, then where's my cut of all that revenue generated? Andy don't you know anything? Your cut is being held by a group of Nigerian businessmen who need a reliable contact who can broker the money for them. Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Of Plum Beer and Stewed Heads
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 09:53:01AM +, Dirk Koopman wrote: Other than I note that apart from the originator, every MTA handling this email was exim (including this list's MTA) and they are all out of date. Could I respectfully suggest that you all upgrade to the latest and greatest: 4.12? Why? It's not as if there are security problems - the one necessary fix has been backported. Many of us have fairly complex Exim 3 configurations which won't be easy to transfer to v4. I'm planning to upgrade if/when I want a feature that isn't in the version I'm using now. Roger (Exim admin since 1998 or so)
Re: What is london.pm?
At 18:32 02/01/03, you wrote: Mark Fowler wrote: On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Dave Cross wrote: Ask Googlism I wouldn't trust it however - look what it comes up with for Perl. Trust it? Of course not. For anything large (eg Perl) it'll come up with all sorts of junk. See Java: snip Mine started ok and factual and then got really quite surreal. Googlism for: alex mclintock alex mclintock is a member of the professional contractors group alex mclintock is looking for conventions and sf alex mclintock is not bob's idea of fun talking about sheep
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Philip Pereira wrote:
if (1) {
print The test worked!\n;
}
advice type=silly in relation to this
For all tests it's better to use a Test::Harness compatible output (e.g.
ok 1 - the test worked), and if all possible for maximum compatability
for using in conjuction with with other testing suites, please use a
Test::Builder based package, like Test::Simple or Test::More to create
this message to ensure consistant numbering.
#!/usr/bin/perl
# Turn on perl's safety features
use strict;
use warings;
# Load the testing library, expect 1 test to run
use Test::Simple tests = 1;
# simple test
ok(true,simple test);
--
#!/usr/bin/perl -T
use strict;
use warnings;
print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};
Re: Of Plum Beer and Stewed Heads
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 09:53:01AM +, Dirk Koopman wrote: Other than I note that apart from the originator, every MTA handling this email was exim (including this list's MTA) and they are all out of date. Could I respectfully suggest that you all upgrade to the latest and greatest: 4.12? Sure, thanks for volunteering to package it for me and convert my configuration. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david This is nice. Any idea what body-part it is?
Re: Of Plum Beer and Stewed Heads
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 12:15, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 09:53:01AM +, Dirk Koopman wrote: Other than I note that apart from the originator, every MTA handling this email was exim (including this list's MTA) and they are all out of date. Could I respectfully suggest that you all upgrade to the latest and greatest: 4.12? Sure, thanks for volunteering to package it for me and convert my configuration. Ok, I am always up for a challenge. I already maintain a set of RH7 and RH8 RPMS of exim + exiscan patch. What's so special about your config then? Dirk -- Please Note: Some Quantum Physics Theories Suggest That When the Consumer Is Not Directly Observing This Product, It May Cease to Exist or Will Exist Only in a Vague and Undetermined State.
Re: Of Plum Beer and Stewed Heads
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 12:30:31PM +, Dirk Koopman wrote: On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 12:15, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 09:53:01AM +, Dirk Koopman wrote: Other than I note that apart from the originator, every MTA handling this email was exim (including this list's MTA) and they are all out of date. Could I respectfully suggest that you all upgrade to the latest and greatest: 4.12? Sure, thanks for volunteering to package it for me and convert my configuration. Ok, I am always up for a challenge. I already maintain a set of RH7 and RH8 RPMS of exim + exiscan patch. What's so special about your config then? Thanks very much! I use Debian/Sparc, I don't know if there's anything odd about my configuration or not, it's just that it has ... mutated over time. I will, of course, expect fresh packages promptly whenever patches are released, like what I get for the 3.x series. -- David Cantrell|Degenerate|http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david We must get users past their misunderstandings of uptime. A reboot doesn't mean that anything broke, there is no hardware or software corrective action taken, so there wasn't any real downtime. -- overheard in an MS strategy meeting
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 02:21:46AM +, Paul Makepeace wrote: Having said that, discussions like this usually result in an overall group position/consensus on the behaviour which contributes to group policy and sense of social context and history. Specifically, it might dissuade others from such emails in future :-) Well, it's a perl list, so maybe tests should be of the form 1..1 ok 1 - My e-mail does reach the list Or maybe they should be programs that print things like that out: Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook! Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook! Ook! Ook! Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook! Ook! Ook! Ook! Ook! Ook! Ook! Ook! Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook! Ook. or maybe they should be delurk messages, such as hi, my name is Nicholas Clark. I'm currently a C programmer working at $mumble beyond civilisation in a humourless office, but I use perl to regression test my C code, often using Inline::C. In my spare time I hack perl to avoid doing whatever I should be doing, particularly if it involves making things faster than they were before. I like Test::More. No, Schwern did not pay me to say this. I also like valgrind and ccache. or maybe they should be non-urgent questions like If the only message I ever sent was 1 question with no sig and no quoted text, would that put me top of Greg's list stats for signal to noise? or Do we know anything more about YAPC::EU::2003 yet, something more precise than Location: Paris Date: 2003 Colour: Pink ? Nicholas Clark
Re: Of Plum Beer and Stewed Heads
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 12:30:31PM +, Dirk Koopman wrote: On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 12:15, David Cantrell wrote: Sure, thanks for volunteering to package it for me and convert my configuration. Ok, I am always up for a challenge. I already maintain a set of RH7 and RH8 RPMS of exim + exiscan patch. What's so special about your config then? One of the things that I've noticed from being on the exim lists for some time, and that Phil has in fact commented on before now, is the sheer number of different things people want to do with email. My mailserver runs a fairly complex configuration, which, under 3.x required source patches, but in 4.x those patches were integrated into the main distribution. This was not possible to convert automatically, I spent the better part of a weekend testing it and re-testing it, and running the two configurations in parallel. I still got stuff slightly wrong. The point here, in my humble opinion, is that the old adage of If it ain't broke, don't fix it really applies here. If the system is doing what you want, then there's very little point in going through the 3.x to 4.x pain. The problem with exim, if it can indeed be called a problem, is that it's too flexible, so different people want completely different things out of it. No one automated conversion is going to capture every subtlety of the configuration, certainly, convert4r4 made a few mistakes in my case. I can certainly see the point of many on this list who don't want to go through the whole rewrite my configuration, do extensive testing, then switch cycle. I only did it because there were features in 4.x that I needed at that time. -- Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere since 2002
Re: What is london.pm?
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, David H. Adler wrote: Try dha. :-) heh heh... Chris Devers turns up almost nothing, though the first one is good :) chris devers is sinner against the laws of usenix chris devers is in chris devers is probably on we Devers turns up more, but they seem to all be about Gail Devers, US track field athlete in the summer olympics a few years ago. Snipping a bit: devers is looking for her first gold medal in the 100 devers is in perpetual motion devers is approximately 318 devers is so darn hot right now devers is no exception devers is literacy devers is not responsible for the contents of any site but its own devers is at the junction of us highway 90 and state highway 61 devers is affected by hitting the barriers devers is president of the devers group devers is the 1993 and 1997 titlist devers is the two devers is a farmhouse of provence whose oldest buildings date back to the beginning of the last century devers is not available in canada Guessing which I think are the funniest is an exercise for the reader :) -- Chris Devers[EMAIL PROTECTED] email, e-mail n. \pronounced ee-mail\ Abbrev. electronic mail. A picaresque novella (also known as the header) listing the sequence of gateways, nodes, mailers, and protocols responsible for garbling the appended one line message. The OED has a semi-prophetic citation: emailed (1480) ...arranged in net or open work. -- from _The Computer Contradictionary_, Stan Kelly-Bootle, 1995
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
On Friday 03 January 2003 12:55, Nicholas Clark wrote: Do we know anything more about YAPC::EU::2003 yet, something more precise than Location: Paris Date: 2003 Colour: Pink Pink? .. whatsort of a poxy colo[u]r is that? whats wrong wiht, say, hmm I dunno, mmm Orange? -- Robin Szemeti
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
robin szemeti wrote: Pink? .. whatsort of a poxy colo[u]r is that? whats wrong wiht, say, hmm I dunno, mmm Orange? Yapc.org appears to be unreachable, but when it comes back the comments in the yapc europe page may give you an idea. Had they chosen a less ugly colour I would have of course jumped into the maquis with them, but as it is I'll remain gloomily unaligned... -- Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Research Engineer, Expwayhttp://expway.fr/ 7FC0 6F5F D864 EFB8 08CE 8E74 58E6 D5DB 4889 2488
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
At 14:35 + 1/3/03, robin szemeti wrote: On Friday 03 January 2003 12:55, Nicholas Clark wrote: Do we know anything more about YAPC::EU::2003 yet, something more precise than Location: Paris Date: 2003 Colour: Pink Pink? .. whatsort of a poxy colo[u]r is that? whats wrong wiht, say, hmm I dunno, mmm Orange? I think the colour was decided, at great expense I might add, at the YAPC::Europe 2002 in Munich. So I don't think it's open to negotiations... Liz
Wierd drinks
Hi, I'm looking for something called Clamato juice, a premixed combination on Tomota juice and Clam juice. Don't ask. It goes in cocktails and Canadians like it. It's easy to get on the web, but I'm looking for a London retailer. Either a place that specialises in cocktail ingredients or a Candadian expat shop. any leads? Jon Happy New Year. -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, +44 (0)20 7383 6092 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wierd drinks
I'm looking for something called Clamato juice, a premixed combination on Tomota juice and Clam juice. Don't ask. It goes in cocktails and Canadians like it. It's easy to get on the web, but I'm looking for a London retailer. Either a place that specialises in cocktail ingredients or a Candadian expat shop. any leads? I have actually seen it in larger Sainsburys. Also try health food shops and up market delicatessens. T.
Photos from the Pillars of Hercules
http://www.cantrell.org.uk/photos/london.pm -- Grand Inquisitor Reverend David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Us Germans take our humour very seriously -- German cultural attache talking to the Today Programme, about the German supposed lack of a sense of humour, 29 Aug 2001
Re: Photos from the Pillars of Hercules
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, David Cantrell wrote: http://www.cantrell.org.uk/photos/london.pm The requested URL /photos/london.pm was not found on this server the hatter
Re: Photos from the Pillars of Hercules
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 04:31:45PM +, the hatter wrote: On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, David Cantrell wrote: http://www.cantrell.org.uk/photos/london.pm The requested URL /photos/london.pm was not found on this server http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/photos/london.pm/ -- dave thorn | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Photos from the Pillars of Hercules
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 04:31:45PM +, the hatter wrote: On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, David Cantrell wrote: http://www.cantrell.org.uk/photos/london.pm The requested URL /photos/london.pm was not found on this server http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/photos/london.pm Refunds are available from our Thornton Heath office, and as usual, we will refund TWICE the price of the faulty goods. Please form an orderly queue. -- Grand Inquisitor Reverend David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Wow, my first sigquoting! I feel so special now! -- Dan Sugalski
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
* Elizabeth Mattijsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I think the colour was decided, at great expense I might add, at the YAPC::Europe 2002 in Munich. So I don't think it's open to negotiations... Yeah, it seems fairly ghastly now, but somehow at the time setting the colour as luminescant pink seemed fairly tame compared to Damian and Schwerns naked wrestling. Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 04:10:31PM +0100, Robin Berjon wrote: Yapc.org appears to be unreachable, but when it comes back the comments in the yapc europe page may give you an idea. http://www.yapc.org/Europe/2003/index.html works fine for me... -- Natalie S. Ford . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://www.natalie.ourshack.org
Re: Photos from the Pillars of Hercules
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 04:42:04PM +, David Cantrell wrote: http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/photos/london.pm I'd forgotten why they called you *evil* dave. Those are horrid photos. -- Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere since 2002
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 05:04:17PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: Yeah, it seems fairly ghastly now, but somehow at the time setting the colour as luminescant pink seemed fairly tame compared to Damian and Schwerns naked wrestling. 1) It was topless, not naked. B) It was arm wrestling, which is nowhere near as scary to watch. iii) IIRC, it was your idea for schwern to auction off the rest of his clothing. dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ I think I'd better sit down. You are sitting down. Oh. Good for me. - BtVS, Welcome to the Hellmouth
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
Dear all, Sorry for any inconvenience caused! I was having some problems with my subscription to london.pm and needed some way to check it was ok. The good news is that it's all sorted :) Sorry I wasn't able to make the meet yesterday; the photos looked intresting though! Am still set to meet you all (for the first time) next Thursday! -- Phil. --- (_ ) UNIX is user-friendly,\\\, ) ^ it's just picky about its friends!\/, \( cXc_/_) ---
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:47:59 +0100, you (Elizabeth Mattijsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 14:35 + 1/3/03, robin szemeti wrote: On Friday 03 January 2003 12:55, Nicholas Clark wrote: Do we know anything more about YAPC::EU::2003 yet, something more precise than Location: Paris Date: 2003 Colour: Pink Pink? .. whatsort of a poxy colo[u]r is that? whats wrong wiht, say, hmm I dunno, mmm Orange? I think the colour was decided, at great expense I might add, at the ... but maybe not as priceless as the singing of Mr. Greg Frank Sinatra McCarroll ... YAPC::Europe 2002 in Munich. So I don't think it's open to negotiations... Certainly not, but the choice of colour might make it easier to bring in more money next YAPC::Europe ;-) -- mvh/Regards Kåre Olai Lindbach
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
* Kåre Olai Lindbach ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: ... but maybe not as priceless as the singing of Mr. Greg Frank Sinatra McCarroll ... i must stop you their Kare, you cannot compare me to Frank, after all I don't have blue eyes. Certainly not, but the choice of colour might make it easier to bring in more money next YAPC::Europe ;-) i think to be fair to paris they would of liked to have had a reserve on it, but reserves are very hard to do if the auctioneer favours chaos over any sort of organisation, so dont blame them and they are being good sports about it - besides i think its only the ``crew'' t-shirt that has to be pink Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
psh v1.0 released.
Hi, all.
Gregor Purdy released v1.0 of psh - the Perl Shell - yesterday. The
homepage at http://www.focusresearch.com/gregor/psh/ gives more
in-depth sample usage, but it seems to do everything you'd expect:
# same as `for i in *.txt; do less $i; done'
$ forfile *.txt less $_
# Grepish. Print line if { ... } evaluates to true.
$ netstat | { $_[1]2; }g
# a line-by-line filter that performs the substitution on each line,
# and then prints the line.
$ ls | s/a/b/
# Psh::evl - eval a line as if it were psh input.
$ for $file (glob $pat) { Psh::evl(ls -ld $file); }
So, what do we think? Awful and icky and bloated, or does it possess
the pony-nature..?
- Chris.
--
$a=printf.net; Chris Ball | chris@void.$a | www.$a | finger: chris@$a
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 08:07:20PM +, Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Kåre Olai Lindbach ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: ... but maybe not as priceless as the singing of Mr. Greg Frank Sinatra McCarroll ... i must stop you their Kare, you cannot compare me to Frank, after all I don't have blue eyes. Or (AFAIK) Mafia connections :) Dave... -- Drugs are just bad m'kay
Re: Sorry - this is just a test
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Or (AFAIK) Mafia connections :) As you know I am from Northern Ireland I am a stranger in this country, and I mean no disrespect to this group, or you. I am an Ulsterman hiding in London, my name is Greg 'Billy' McCarrollone, and there are people who would pay a lot for that information, but then you and your group would lose an ex-leader's kneecaps instead of gaining a monger. Capiche? G. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wierd drinks
At 03/01/2003 16:09 [], Jonathan Peterson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for something called Clamato juice, a premixed combination on Tomota juice and Clam juice. Don't ask. It goes in cocktails and Canadians like it. It's easy to get on the web, but I'm looking for a London retailer. Either a place that specialises in cocktail ingredients or a Candadian expat shop. Um, I've seen it in larger Tesco's and Waitrose. Bottled, with the tomato and V8 juices, if memory serves. HTH /joel -- S. Joel Bernstein :: joel at fysh dot org :: t: 020 8458 2323 Nobody is going to claim that Perl 6's OO is bolted on. Well, except maybe for certain Slashdotters who don't know the difference between rational discussion and cheerleading... -- Larry Wall
