Re: XSLT processor recommendations

2003-06-24 Thread Robin Berjon
Toby Corkindale wrote:
Out of interest, does anyone know how it performs compared to the MS/IIS/XML
combo? (Since a solution based upon that is basically the main competitor to
my effort)
libxslt and MSXSL were the two fastest ones around last time I saw large 
benchmarks. However which one will come out first in the specific tasks you need 
to perform much depends on the type of stylesheets you will be using.

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Re: Grrh.. XML Schema Validation

2003-06-24 Thread Andy Wardley
Raf wrote:
 I've found XML::Schema which looks great but requires you to manually 
 create a perl representation of your xml schema beforehand.  

Or you parse your XML schema document and transform it into the appropriate
Perl representation.  Non-trivial, but may be quicker than hand-coding Perl.

A





Re: Telewest + Linux + MAC(?) oddness

2003-06-24 Thread Andy Wardley
Paul Makepeace wrote:
 I'm wondering if the modem is rejected the MAC of the linux box while
 the Windows's box's lease is still in effect or something bizarre like
 that.

Yes.  Or the DHCP server at the ISP.  

With NTL I had to switch off the cable modem for a few hours until the 
DHCP lease expired.  Then all was good.

A




RE: Telewest + Linux + MAC(?) oddness

2003-06-24 Thread Clayton, Nik [IT]
 Has anyone used a Telewest modem and had problems having it 
 play nicely with Linux?

Nope.  It should JustWork(tm) (although s/Linux/FreeBSD/ in my case).

 The situation is that a Windows 2000 box with its MAC address
 registered on blueyonder's site works fine when directly plugged into
 the Telewest cable modem, but a linux box whose external NIC's MAC
 address is similarly registered, and plugged directly in doesn't work.
 Even configuring it with the same IP/network config leased by the
 Windows box provides no joy.
 
 I'm wondering if the modem is rejected the MAC of the linux box while
 the Windows's box's lease is still in effect or something bizarre like
 that.
 
 Anyone got a clue here?

How long have you waited after getting the new MAC address added?  These
things can take up to 24 hours, IIRC.  You might have some success by
powering off the cable modem (physically unplugging it from both the wall,
*and* unscrewing the cable connection), waiting 5-10 minutes, and then
trying again[1].

If you're desperate you could always just switch NICs to make sure things
work.  I assume you've already checked all the obvious stuff (cables, 
duplex settings, routing tables, and so on...)?

N

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Re: Telewest + Linux + MAC(?) oddness

2003-06-24 Thread Kris Boulez
Quoting Andy Wardley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Paul Makepeace wrote:
  I'm wondering if the modem is rejected the MAC of the linux box while
  the Windows's box's lease is still in effect or something bizarre like
  that.
 
 Yes.  Or the DHCP server at the ISP.  
 
 With NTL I had to switch off the cable modem for a few hours until the 
 DHCP lease expired.  Then all was good.
 
[ this if for Telenet, a Belgian cable modem ISP ]

With Telenet I even noticed that I can't get an IP adress for the
same MAC addres when booting linux (dual boot).

  - boot machine windows 2000: gets IP address via DHCP
  - reboot machine to Linux  : DHCP does not give IP address
  - reboot machine to Windows: gets IP address

Waiting the DHCP expiry time solves the problem (as did adding a
FW/router machine :) ).

Kris,



Re: Telewest + Linux + MAC(?) oddness

2003-06-24 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Paul Makepeace wrote:

 Ha`s anyone used a Telewest modem and had problems having it play nicely
 with Linux?

Yes and No. My Smoothwall runs just fine.
 
 I'm wondering if the modem is rejected the MAC of the linux box while
 the Windows's box's lease is still in effect or something bizarre like
 that.

 Anyone got a clue here?

You're pretty much correct. I've found that switching the modem off, then 
swapping the machine and powering up with the new nic in place does the 
trick.

Their hinder^Whelp pages suggest releasing the dhcp lease before doing 
that but I've never found it necessary. 'ipconfig /release' on a win2k 
box.

You know that you can register MACs directly via the webshite ?

Check with the working machine and have a look at 
http://selfcare.blueyonder.co.uk/PInfranetServlet?page=p_list_mac_addrsloadBean=yes

You'll need the username and password that they sent you when you signed 
up. It's *much* quicker than talking to the helldesk !

Simon.

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Re: Grrh.. XML Schema Validation

2003-06-24 Thread Raf
Andy Wardley said:
 Raf wrote:
 I've found XML::Schema which looks great but requires you to manually
 create a perl representation of your xml schema beforehand.

 Or you parse your XML schema document and transform it into the
 appropriate Perl representation.  Non-trivial, but may be quicker than
 hand-coding Perl.

Was working on just that until I fell alseep upright last night.  Trying
to make it generic.  Can send this to you when done.

R.







Re: Telewest + Linux + MAC(?) oddness

2003-06-24 Thread Michael Jemmeson
Simon Wilcox wrote:

You're pretty much correct. I've found that switching the modem off, then 
swapping the machine and powering up with the new nic in place does the 
trick.

Their hinder^Whelp pages suggest releasing the dhcp lease before doing 
that but I've never found it necessary. 'ipconfig /release' on a win2k 
box.

You know that you can register MACs directly via the webshite ?

Check with the working machine and have a look at 
http://selfcare.blueyonder.co.uk/PInfranetServlet?page=p_list_mac_addrsloadBean=yes

You'll need the username and password that they sent you when you signed 
up. It's *much* quicker than talking to the helldesk !
i've found the following site about Telewest and NTL cable modems very useful:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d.h.walker/cmtips/index.html

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d.h.walker/cmtips/swap.html#swap 
concerns the DHCP release/MAC address issue)

Michael.




Re: G5 benchmarks

2003-06-24 Thread Shevek
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, David Cantrell wrote:

 Someone posted to one of my other lists:
 
  Apple kind of fudged the numbers on the G5 today. They are using
  unrealistic SPEC numbers for the Dells. They did their own testing and for
  the Dell's they used GCC instead of the Intel compiler. The numbers on teh
  SPEC site use Intel's compiler and are much better (beating the G5 in
  pretty much everything).

The most interesting possible result of this would be if Intel started to 
contribute code to gcc, because if gcc's failing is going to make Intel 
look sucky in big public places, they will probably want to do something 
about it.

S.

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Re: XSLT processor recommendations

2003-06-24 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Dominic Mitchell wrote:

 Pure Perl XSLT was unsupported and incomplete last I heard.


Oi! Less of the unsupported matey.  All patches welcome.

/J\




Re: leytonstone.pm

2003-06-24 Thread Ian Malpass
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Andy Mendelsohn wrote:

 So, in recognition of the fact that there are perl programmers who live
 in the swampland east of Stratford, but primarily as an excuse to drink
 beer in the convivial surroundings of 'The Hitchcock' on Whipps Cross
 Road, E11, Paul Makepeace and my own decrepit self will be holding the
 inaugural meeting of leytonstone.pm on July 8th. All welcome of course.
 I'll be there from around 7pm(ish).

Good heavens. That's not five minutes[0] from mine own good home. How
handy. July 8th you say? I shall do my best.

Ian

[0] Actually, it's probably ten minutes. Which, I'm sure you'll agree, is
not five minutes.

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crash space stupidity

2003-06-24 Thread Jody Belka
ok, i asked for crash space for monday to wednesday this week a few days
back, but i've stupidly gone and deleted the response i got back. i messed
up coming down for the oreilly thing, but i'm still going to come down for
the emergency social tomorrow.

so, if the person who originally replied could get back in touch that'd be
great. also, i'm not sure if he's going to the social or not, so if anyone
else who is going has any crash space available that would obviously be
even more convenient.


jody





leytonstone.pm (was: Number Indicating Participation in London.pm (NIPL) (was: assimilating CPAN))

2003-06-24 Thread Andy Mendelsohn
Wotcha mongers,

I'm back after my nearly 3 year sentence in Silly Valley.  I've 
actually been back for 6 months, and despite not having made it to a 
London.pm meeting, have made good use of my CFT by relearning english 
spellings, reacquainting myself with driving on the left and, all in 
all, recovering with the help of real bangers and decent bacon sarnies.

So, in recognition of the fact that there are perl programmers who live 
in the swampland east of Stratford, but primarily as an excuse to drink 
beer in the convivial surroundings of 'The Hitchcock' on Whipps Cross 
Road, E11, Paul Makepeace and my own decrepit self will be holding the 
inaugural meeting of leytonstone.pm on July 8th. All welcome of course. 
I'll be there from around 7pm(ish).

Oh yeah, and we might talk about Perl.

andy




Re: leytonstone.pm

2003-06-24 Thread Iain Tatch
On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, 3:11:15 PM, Ian Malpass wrote:

 beer in the convivial surroundings of 'The Hitchcock' on Whipps Cross
 Road, E11, Paul Makepeace and my own decrepit self will be holding the
 inaugural meeting of leytonstone.pm on July 8th. All welcome of course.
 I'll be there from around 7pm(ish).

IM Good heavens. That's not five minutes[0] from mine own good home. How
IM handy. July 8th you say? I shall do my best.

It's not five minutes from mine, either. Well actually it is, in the sense
that Leytonstone station is five minutes' Central Line-riding fun from
South Woodford tube, which also means that I will do my best[0] to be
there. Especially as it's Not A Wednesday. I don't do Wednesdays.

I've never (knowingly) met anyone else from london.pm or from
leytonstone.pm[1][2]. I don't know what any of you look like, behave like,
or even whether or not you're secretly axe-murdering psychopaths. Still,
all part of the fun of That Interweb I suppose.


Iain

[0] A phrase that's just brought back long-repressed memories of cub
scouts. Akela! We WILL do our best!
[1] Not surprising if it's a fortnight yet until it's born.
[2] I'm in E18 not E11 but as long as you don't mind a South Woodford
infiltrator I'll show my face.
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Re: leytonstone.pm

2003-06-24 Thread Andy Mendelsohn
On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 03:29  pm, Iain Tatch wrote:
I've never (knowingly) met anyone else from london.pm or from
leytonstone.pm[1][2]. I don't know what any of you look like, behave 
like,
or even whether or not you're secretly axe-murdering psychopaths. 
Still,
all part of the fun of That Interweb I suppose.

I, personally, am not an axe-murderer, although as a balding, scruffy 
one, smoking a rollup, I could possibly be mistaken for one.

I have in my possession, gruesome mug shots of Leon Brocard, Paul 
Makepeace and Dave Cross (and, I think, Andy Wardley), taken in 
Monterey at the 2000 perl conference.  I could be encouraged to keep 
them under wraps...on the other hand...

andy




Re: leytonstone.pm

2003-06-24 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Andy Mendelsohn wrote:
I have in my possession, gruesome mug shots of Leon Brocard, Paul 
Makepeace and Dave Cross (and, I think, Andy Wardley), taken in Monterey 
at the 2000 perl conference.  I could be encouraged to keep them under 
wraps...on the other hand...

  Hey!! Cool!
  Maybe we could /encourage/ you to show them?
  (-:
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Re: XSLT processor recommendations

2003-06-24 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Jonathan Stowe wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
Pure Perl XSLT was unsupported and incomplete last I heard.
Oi! Less of the unsupported matey.  All patches welcome.
My sincere apologies!  My opinion was based on what is obviously 
unsubstantiated rumour.  You might also wish to ensure its status is 
correct the perl-xml FAQ I mentioned a few posts back.

-Dom

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Re: XSLT processor recommendations

2003-06-24 Thread Robin Berjon
Dominic Mitchell wrote:
Jonathan Stowe wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
Pure Perl XSLT was unsupported and incomplete last I heard.
Oi! Less of the unsupported matey.  All patches welcome.
My sincere apologies!  My opinion was based on what is obviously 
unsubstantiated rumour.  You might also wish to ensure its status is 
correct the perl-xml FAQ I mentioned a few posts back.
I second that, if the perl-xml list isn't informed of the status of various Perl 
XML projects, no one will be up to date :) There's way too much in this space 
for anyone to keep up...

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Re: leytonstone.pm

2003-06-24 Thread Stéphane Payrard
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 12:00:51PM -0300, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
 Andy Mendelsohn wrote:
 
 I have in my possession, gruesome mug shots of Leon Brocard, Paul 
 Makepeace and Dave Cross (and, I think, Andy Wardley), taken in Monterey 
 at the 2000 perl conference.  I could be encouraged to keep them under 
 wraps...on the other hand...
 
 
   Hey!! Cool!
   Maybe we could /encourage/ you to show them?
   (-:

That smells like a possible auction for yapc::eu. :)

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Re: leytonstone.pm

2003-06-24 Thread Andy Wardley
Andy Mendelsohn wrote:
 I have in my possession, gruesome mug shots of Leon Brocard, Paul 
 Makepeace and Dave Cross (and, I think, Andy Wardley), taken in 
 Monterey at the 2000 perl conference.  I could be encouraged to keep 
 them under wraps...on the other hand...

Show em!  :-)

I don't remember doing anything so embarrassing that I can't face the
public humiliation.

That's not to say I haven't done such things, just that I don't remember
them.  I can remain in blissful denial despite what any photographic
evidence might suggest to the otherwise.


A




Re: leytonstone.pm

2003-06-24 Thread Andrew Beattie
Andy Wardley wrote:
I don't remember doing anything so embarrassing that I can't face the
public humiliation.
Such as this...

http://www.reckites.com/naked/abw.jpg

Andrew




Re: leytonstone.pm

2003-06-24 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Andrew Beattie wrote:
Andy Wardley wrote:

I don't remember doing anything so embarrassing that I can't face the
public humiliation.


Such as this...

http://www.reckites.com/naked/abw.jpg
  Oh, man, that hurts!

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Re: leytonstone.pm

2003-06-24 Thread Andy Mendelsohn
On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 08:17  pm, Andrew Beattie wrote:

Andy Wardley wrote:
I don't remember doing anything so embarrassing that I can't face the
public humiliation.
Such as this...

http://www.reckites.com/naked/abw.jpg

Andrew
Actually, Andy, I apologise for drawing you into this mess. I was sure 
i had one of you too - but the only ones I can find are of Messrs. 
D.cross, L.Brocard and P.Makepeace.

And the reserve price is...




Re: XSLT processor recommendations

2003-06-24 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Robin Berjon wrote:

 Dominic Mitchell wrote:
  Jonathan Stowe wrote:
  On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
  Pure Perl XSLT was unsupported and incomplete last I heard.
 
  Oi! Less of the unsupported matey.  All patches welcome.
 
  My sincere apologies!  My opinion was based on what is obviously
  unsubstantiated rumour.  You might also wish to ensure its status is
  correct the perl-xml FAQ I mentioned a few posts back.

 I second that, if the perl-xml list isn't informed of the status of various Perl
 XML projects, no one will be up to date :) There's way too much in this space
 for anyone to keep up...


Well I have emailed the maintainer of the FAQ but I note that it hasn't
been updated for more than a year either - so maybe the whole XML on Perl
thing is going down the pan ... :-)

/J\