Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Dave Cross

From: Luis Campos de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6/5/03 12:36:31 PM

Dave Cross wrote:
 From: Luis Campos de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 6/4/03 1:15:10 PM
 
Maybe my perl brothers here have some comments on it.

 Luis,
 Is there any reason why you're not interested in the 
 opinions of the women on this list?

 Dear Dave

 I've wrote just brothers because in my native tongue 
 (pt_BR) when there are womans and mans toghether the 
 masculine must be used. E.g.: Para todos os meus irmãos 
 nesta lista (literally, For all my brothers in this 
 list). This means that I'm talking for all my brothers 
 and sisters in the list. Obviously a machist remanescent 
 from the older (pt_PT) tongue.

 I apologi(z|s)e for any confusion this may cause.

No problem. I suspected it might be something like that.

I just wanted to make the point :)

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Gareth Morris
To answer the original question, surely blue as in the Blue Camel???

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*monger - O.E. mangere, from L. mango (gen. mangonis) dealer, trader,
*from Gk. manganon  contrivance, means of enchantment. Used in comb. form
*in Eng. since at least 12c.; since 16c. chiefly with overtones of petty
*and disreputable. The modern verb is first recorded 1928, from the noun
*(but there was a verb form in O.E.).
*
*  Hmm good job were not Roman or we'd be perlmagno's

In Portuguese, there is a word 'Monga' which sounds like Monger but is a
slang word to describe mongoloids :)

e.



Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Gareth Morris wrote:
To answer the original question, surely blue as in the Blue Camel???
  Well, the first Camel book I saw was pink... I don't think that's a 
good pick... =-]

Paul Makepeace wrote:
 Perlple?
  Nice shot. What kind?
  Its interesting to note that blue + pink = purple. =-]
Mark Fowler wrote:
 So the Perl Mounger colour is Mango orange?
 Leon, I blame you.
  Oh, well, I don't think this is a good idea (except for Leon).
  I blame you too, Leon. ;-)
  Any other suggestions?
  Where are the list girls and their good-taste for decoration? =-]
  Elaine? Ali? Please throw in your opinions. After all, this thread 
stills here only because Dave Cross defended the Perl Sisters...

  Thank you all. =-]
  Have a nice day.
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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*monger - O.E. mangere, from L. mango (gen. mangonis) dealer, trader,
*from Gk. manganon  contrivance, means of enchantment. Used in comb. form
*in Eng. since at least 12c.; since 16c. chiefly with overtones of petty
*and disreputable. The modern verb is first recorded 1928, from the noun
*(but there was a verb form in O.E.).
*
*   Hmm good job were not Roman or we'd be perlmagno's
In Portuguese, there is a word 'Monga' which sounds like Monger but is a
slang word to describe mongoloids :)
  Well, this is a rare, almost-technical word.
  Normally, folks use to say debilóide to design the poor little 
brothers and sisters hit by this disfuncion... I think the equivalent 
english word is debiloid (is such word exists).

  My E$0,02.
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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Leon Brocard
Mark Fowler sent the following bits through the ether:

 So the Perl Mounger colour is Mango orange?
 
 Leon, I blame you.

Unfortunately I am currently in Portugal having fights with Haskell
and .NET people. Otherwise I would clearly have brought up the fact
that orange is clearly the One True Colour. Honest.

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Walt Mankowski
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 05:29:29AM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
 Friar Tuck, as I recall :) You might be amused to know the original name
 for search.cpan was TUCS which I believe was to be accompanied by a
 picture of Friar Tuck.

What did TUCS stand for?

Walt



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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Walt Mankowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 05:29:29AM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
* Friar Tuck, as I recall :) You might be amused to know the original name
* for search.cpan was TUCS which I believe was to be accompanied by a
* picture of Friar Tuck.
*
*What did TUCS stand for?

If I recall correctly, The Ultimate CPAN Search. :)

e.



Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Ben
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 02:40:20PM +0100, Ali Young wrote:
 
 OK, lets solve this:
 Take a large quantity of psychotropic drugs.
 Look at some Perl code.

Curse you! I'm working this weekend

Ben



Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Marna Gilligan
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Ali Young wrote:

 Or find someone with synaesthesia.

The word 'perl' - it's a pale yellow in my brane. Lighter than a
lemon-yellow, and with less green - almost with a hint of orange.

The colour the code is? Probably depends on the code. I'm not sure I
*give* code as a whole a colour, although I could tell you the colours of
the bits of it.


Marna




Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Luis Campos de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*  Where are the list girls and their good-taste for decoration? =-]

Well, to be honest, gay men know far more about decorating than I do as I
only use white or beige paint on the walls of my house and my clothes are
mostly all black so I can be sure they all match. I lament that adult
furnishings and clothing don't come with the 'garanimal' tags for matching
like they did when I was a kid. :)

Besides...you haven't even picked which season Perl is so how can you pick
a colour scheme? :) I would guess Perl is an autumn and would look rather
good in a nice maroon.

e.



Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:36:31AM -0300, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:

I apologi(z|s)e for any confusion this may cause.
 
Ah! I just finished reading trought the entire list, and noted that 
 no one here even remembered to mention a color for perl... =-] Maybe 

What is this word color that you keep using? Is it like colour? :-)
I've you'd asked about colour the answer is orange because Leon has us
all brainwashed.

 What is the Perl sex? is a better question to ask for the London Monks...

Well, last month I think the answer was mainly hetro
(if confused see http://marna.org/comic.gif)

Not sure what the answer will be tonight.

Nicholas Clark



Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Fowler
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Marna Gilligan wrote:

 The word 'perl' - it's a pale yellow in my brane. Lighter than a
 lemon-yellow, and with less green - almost with a hint of orange.

Who cares what colour perl is, I've still got this darn bikeshed that
needs painting[1] ;-)

(or, this could turn into a really long thread if we're not careful)

Mark

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Elaine -HFB- Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 furnishings and clothing don't come with the 'garanimal' tags for matching
 like they did when I was a kid. :)
 

what are garanimal tags, i'm sure google would tell me where is the social
interaction in that.

as for the colour of perl shurely its octarine wheter you are a pratchett
fan or not.

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*what are garanimal tags, i'm sure google would tell me where is the social
*interaction in that.

http://www.garanimals.com/garanimals_history.htm

Because fashion retardation starts early in life and, for many, never
leaves :)

*as for the colour of perl shurely its octarine wheter you are a pratchett
*fan or not.

Mr. Jark would approve, I'm sure. :)

e.



Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:36:31AM -0300, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
  Ah! I just finished reading trought the entire list, and noted that 
no one here even remembered to mention a color for perl... =-] Maybe 
What is this word color that you keep using? Is it like colour? :-)
I've you'd asked about colour the answer is orange because Leon has us
all brainwashed.
  The word 'color' (at least, in my pocket en = pt_BR dictionary) 
have the same meaning as colour. As a non-native speaker maybe you 
should give me some handicap... =-]

  About the Leon Brocard's perl list folks massive brainwash: I blame 
you again, Leon =-P

  Orange looks like the habit used by Budist Monks... not a really 
appropriated colour (nice accent) for Perl, I think so...

What is the Perl sex? is a better question to ask for the London Monks...
Well, last month I think the answer was mainly hetro
(if confused see http://marna.org/comic.gif)
  Well, I'm really impressed. Nice gif. Nice night.
  Maybe I should go to a social meeting someday. =-]
Not sure what the answer will be tonight.
  funny
  Well if I made the right combination possibilities count there is 
aproximatelly 30% of chance that everything goes ok. Good luck to you. I 
feel you will need this. ;-)
  /funny

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Marna Gilligan
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote:

  What is the Perl sex? is a better question to ask for the London Monks...
 
 Well, last month I think the answer was mainly hetro
 (if confused see http://marna.org/comic.gif)

Not entirely hetero, by any stretch. I think I kissed as many girls as I
did boys.
 
 Not sure what the answer will be tonight.

This time I have a camera!


Marna




Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Ali Young
 This time I have a camera!

This time I will be talking to people about Perl. Failing that I'll sit in 
the corner and kill more braincells with beer and the EE Perl book.
Besides, Leon is in Portugal and Matthew is partying in Cambridge *mope*.


Ali





Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Dirk Koopman
On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 15:13, Greg McCarroll wrote:
 as for the colour of perl shurely its octarine wheter you are a pratchett
 fan or not.

Which I suppose brings us back to the subject of sexing perl mongers.
Perhaps a leaf out of the dwarves' method? Ie: very carefully and
circumspectly. 
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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Joshua Keroes
 Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
 Well, to be honest, gay men know far more about decorating than I do as I
 only use white or beige paint on the walls of my house and my clothes are
 mostly all black so I can be sure they all match.

Perl is black. That's how it always appears when I type it. :-)

-J



Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Jason Clifford
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Joshua Keroes wrote:

 Perl is black.

Not so.

It is multicoloured:

shebang is purple;
directives/function calls are orange
variables are light blue
quoted strings are red
comments are navy blue

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Iain Tatch
On Thursday, June 5, 2003, 4:53:35 PM, Jason Clifford wrote:

JC On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Joshua Keroes wrote:

 Perl is black.

JC Not so.

JC It is multicoloured:

Close, but no cigar.

JC shebang is purple;
s/purple/green/

JC directives/function calls are orange
s/orange/red/

JC variables are light blue
s/light blue/ref($)eq'hash'?brown
:ref($)eq'array'?light green
:light blue/e

JC quoted strings are red
s/red/pink/

JC comments are navy blue
s/navy blue/green/

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Toby Corkindale
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 08:43:48AM -0700, Joshua Keroes wrote:
 Perl is black. That's how it always appears when I type it. :-)

Cure colourblindness by typing:

:syntax on


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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Lusercop
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 08:58:09AM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
[vi screendump]
 The syntax command is unknown.

You didn't show the highlighting! That bit comes up as rev video on my
screen.

Lusercop identifies /J\ as using nvi.
Lusercop's original post was with sun vi.

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Tim Sweetman
Lusercop wrote:
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 08:58:09AM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
[vi screendump]
The syntax command is unknown.


You didn't show the highlighting! That bit comes up as rev video on my
screen.
Lusercop identifies /J\ as using nvi.
Lusercop's original post was with sun vi.
M-x identify-self-in-third-person-mode

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Lusercop
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 09:48:19AM +0100, Tim Sweetman wrote:
 Lusercop wrote:
 Lusercop identifies /J\ as using nvi.
 Lusercop's original post was with sun vi.
 M-x identify-self-in-third-person-mode

What's this M-x rubbish?

:-)

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Lusercop wrote:
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 09:48:19AM +0100, Tim Sweetman wrote:

Lusercop wrote:

Lusercop identifies /J\ as using nvi.
Lusercop's original post was with sun vi.
M-x identify-self-in-third-person-mode
What's this M-x rubbish?
Just take this red pill, labelled emacs.rpm.  You'll soon find out how 
deep the elisp hole really goes.

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Dominic Mitchell wrote:
 Lusercop wrote:
  
  What's this M-x rubbish?
 
 Just take this red pill, labelled emacs.rpm.  You'll soon find out how 
 deep the elisp hole really goes.

What's that .rpm rubbish ?



Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Chris Devers
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote:

 Dominic Mitchell wrote:
  Lusercop wrote:
  
   What's this M-x rubbish?
 
  Just take this red pill, labelled emacs.rpm.  You'll soon find out how
  deep the elisp hole really goes.

 What's that .rpm rubbish ?

Just take this red Hat, labelled rpm.rpm.  You'll soon find out how
deep the python hole really goes.




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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 08:43:33AM -0400, Chris Devers wrote:
 On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote:

  What's that .rpm rubbish ?
 
 Just take this red Hat, labelled rpm.rpm.  You'll soon find out how
 deep the python hole really goes.

What I'd like is debian.rpm

In my dreams rpm -i debian.rpm would upgrade your system to Debian.


I suppose I better make it clear that I don't actually dream about this,
or more accurately I rarely remember my dreams, and none have involved
Linux distributions.


Nicholas Clark



Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 02:06:01PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
 What I'd like is debian.rpm
 
 In my dreams rpm -i debian.rpm would upgrade your system to Debian.
 
 I suppose I better make it clear that I don't actually dream about this,
 or more accurately I rarely remember my dreams, and none have involved
 Linux distributions.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

I once did so much ML before exams I had waking auditory
hallucinations. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

Paul

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Tim Sweetman
Nicholas Clark wrote:
I suppose I better make it clear that I don't actually dream about this,
or more accurately I rarely remember my dreams, and none have involved
Linux distributions.
I once dreamt of two of my tech coworkers. They were in a bookshop, 
putting copies of one of the dilbert books in the dust jackets of 
copies of a sensible-looking management textbook, and of them them was 
explaining how this was a good example of why from unreliable sources, 
such as DNS, couldn't be trusted, and why data should be authenticated 
etc to prevent that sort of attack.

Then I woke up.

Ti




Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Lusercop
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 02:39:25PM +0100, Tim Sweetman wrote:
 I once dreamt of two of my tech coworkers. They were in a bookshop, 
 putting copies of one of the dilbert books in the dust jackets of 
 copies of a sensible-looking management textbook, and of them them was 
 explaining how this was a good example of why from unreliable sources, 
 such as DNS, couldn't be trusted, and why data should be authenticated 
 etc to prevent that sort of attack.

DNS can't, and this is a good examp
Q$(%(K:LL^()^(:KLL:KJSB(_^)@@'#~)(^NO CARRIER

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Re: The Perl Color [and weird dreams]?

2003-06-06 Thread Stéphane Payrard
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 02:39:25PM +0100, Tim Sweetman wrote:
 Nicholas Clark wrote:
 I suppose I better make it clear that I don't actually dream about this,
 or more accurately I rarely remember my dreams, and none have involved
 Linux distributions.
 
 I once dreamt of two of my tech coworkers. They were in a bookshop, 
 putting copies of one of the dilbert books in the dust jackets of 
 copies of a sensible-looking management textbook, and of them them was 
 explaining how this was a good example of why from unreliable sources, 
 such as DNS, couldn't be trusted, and why data should be authenticated 
 etc to prevent that sort of attack.
 
 Then I woke up.

... to discover that your mate did not anymore reply to her proper name?

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The Perl Color?

2003-06-05 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
  Hello, Perl Fellows.

  I'm involved on a discussion about the color of perl at PerlMonks.org 
(some of you maybe had seen this before). I need some help, since the 
discussion is getting out of control... =-]

  See what this guys is saying about the Perl Camel.

  http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=262722

  Maybe my perl brothers here have some comments on it.
  I would love read about this.
  Thank you all.
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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-05 Thread Dave Cross

From: Luis Campos de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6/4/03 1:15:10 PM

 Hello, Perl Fellows.

[ snip ]

 Maybe my perl brothers here have some comments on it.

Luis,

Is there any reason why you're not interested in the opinions
of the women on this list?

Dave...

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-05 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Rafael Garcia-Suarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Because there are no perl nuns ?
*(seems to me that a discussion with monks necessarily
*involves brothers)

I registered the domain 'perlnuns.org' a long time ago but it never really
got going due to a decided lack of women and interest. It was likely for
the best though as perl already has enough of a religious and cultish
cachet.

e.



Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-05 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Rafael Garcia-Suarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*And if you're depicting oneself as a monk, this could be an avatari of
*that awesome fellow of Robin Hood, (what's his name?), who prefers
*beverages to prayers.

Friar Tuck, as I recall :) You might be amused to know the original name
for search.cpan was TUCS which I believe was to be accompanied by a
picture of Friar Tuck.

*On the other hand, nobody wants to be a nun.

I did, briefly, but likely only because I had the hots for Fr.
What-a-waste, S.J.. Perhaps I should have registered perlinferno.com
instead :)

e.



Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-05 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Ali Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*For some reason, I hadn't really put much thought into the fact that  
*monks implied a male-only group in that context. Cue rerun of Life of 
*Brian.
*
*I can't imagine wanting to join a for the girls Perl group, since I've 
*not met anyone in any Perlmongers group that has made any negative, 
*patronising or surprised comments about the fact that I'm a girl who does 
*Perl. In my experience, it's only non-techies that get shocked by it.

It was a joke...a Catholic joke :) Given all the other religious and
cult-like features of perl, it was simply poking fun. No, the sisters of
the Sacred Perl never said a single novena nor sang gregorian chant for
the betterment of perl, but we did try to have a little fun :)

*Besides, mongeress just sounds silly.

Well, so does monger for that matter. :) Hey, guy, wanna fish?!

e.



Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-05 Thread Lusercop
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 12:11:41PM +0200, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote:
 Elaine -HFB- Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I registered the domain 'perlnuns.org' a long time ago but it never really
  got going due to a decided lack of women and interest. It was likely for
  the best though as perl already has enough of a religious and cultish
  cachet.
 And if you're depicting oneself as a monk, this could be an avatari of
 that awesome fellow of Robin Hood, (what's his name?), who prefers
 beverages to prayers.
 On the other hand, nobody wants to be a nun.

This made me wonder, what is the origin of the term Monk?
http://info.astrian.net/jargon/ (which seems to be an old version of the
jargon file) doesn't know of an entry, and comes up mostly with stuff for
monkey on a search. Even http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/lexicon.html
doesn't list it.

I'm guessing that it derives from the ASR = SDM thing, and the way in
which sysadmins got called Monks as a result of that anagram. Anyone
know this?

Curious of Chiswick.

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-05 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 12:43:21PM +0100, Lusercop wrote:
 I'm guessing that it derives from the ASR = SDM thing, and the way in
 which sysadmins got called Monks as a result of that anagram. Anyone
 know this?

How about the explanation it's simply a metaphor - monks are tirelessly
dedicated to their cause, prayer, and general devotion. The metaphor is
packed with themes to plunder which makes creating a community much
easier  more fun.

Even better, ask 'em :-)

Paul

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-05 Thread michael

 Besides, mongeress just sounds silly.

and an etymological crime to boot!

monger - O.E. mangere, from L. mango (gen. mangonis) dealer, trader,
from Gk. manganon  contrivance, means of enchantment. Used in comb. form
in Eng. since at least 12c.; since 16c. chiefly with overtones of petty
and disreputable. The modern verb is first recorded 1928, from the noun
(but there was a verb form in O.E.).

Hmm good job were not Roman or we'd be perlmagno's

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-05 Thread Mark Fowler
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, michael wrote:

   Hmm good job were not Roman or we'd be perlmagno's

So the Perl Mounger colour is Mango orange?

Leon, I blame you.

Mark.

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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-05 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Dave Cross wrote:
From: Luis Campos de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6/4/03 1:15:10 PM

Maybe my perl brothers here have some comments on it.

Luis,
Is there any reason why you're not interested in the opinions
of the women on this list?
  Dear Dave

  I've wrote just brothers because in my native tongue (pt_BR) when 
there are womans and mans toghether the masculine must be used. E.g.: 
Para todos os meus irmãos nesta lista (literally, For all my brothers 
in this list). This means that I'm talking for all my brothers and 
sisters in the list. Obviously a machist remanescent from the older 
(pt_PT) tongue.

  I apologi(z|s)e for any confusion this may cause.

  Ah! I just finished reading trought the entire list, and noted that 
no one here even remembered to mention a color for perl... =-] Maybe 
What is the Perl sex? is a better question to ask for the London Monks...

  I would love get comments back from BOTH brothers AND sisters...

  0=-]

  Regards  []'z!
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Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-05 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 10:15:10AM -0300, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
   I'm involved on a discussion about the color of perl

Perlple?

P

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