RE: [luau] Linux Classes
Chris There are LPI classes and other Linux training available. Please contact Paulwilo at the email CC and she can set you up. One of the instructors actually trained me very well. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Dunn Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 8:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gail Honda Subject: Re: [luau] Linux Classes On Sun, 02 Feb 2003 14:49:13 -1000 Chris U [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may sound like a dumb question, but where could I go to learn how to use and operate Linux in a business class environment? -Chris Not dumb at all. Business class environment is a bit ambiguous. Here's what comes to mind: o Servers providing http, mail, and Windows file and printer sharing o General purpose desktops with typical office applications - word processing - spreadsheet - presentation graphics - mail client o Custom application development, usually involving a database - for internal use - for client access, eBusiness o Network security, a.k.a. firewalls Do you mean any of these in particular? Historically, the open-source scene requires a lot of self-teaching. There are lots of good books -- I especially like the O'Reilly series (http://www.oreilly.com/). One of the many advantages of open-source software is that you can play around with it for free. I find the hands-on approach to be a great way to learn. We tend to think of Hawaii as being a backwater of information technology, but as it turns out we have a local girl with a book out on this subject. I haven't read it, so this is only a pointer. Check it out and post a review here! The Essential Guide to Internet Business Technology Gail Honda and Kipp Martin Prentice Hall, February 2002 http://www.globaloptima.com/ourbook.htm My Open Slate project seeks to develop a content development model based on the open-source model of software development. Your question has me thinking about ways to apply that approach to training. Hmmm... -- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Gary Dunn _/ _/ Open Slate Project _/ _/ http://openslate.sourceforge.net/ _/ _/ http://www.aloha.com/~knowtree/_/ _/ Honolulu _/ _/ registered Linux user #273809 _/ _/ _/ _/ This tagline is umop apisdn. _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] Injury
I havent contributed to much lately and plan to give some information on using the latest D-Link 22mbps wireless under Linux as soon as I complete the configuration. I was struck by a car while walking toward downtown crossing Beretania at Alakea. I have a tibea fracture in my left knee area and had surgery the day of the accident which was on the 2nd. Im laid up and unable to bend my knee to sit at my desk so Im laying on the sofa with this wireless laptop running both W2K and RH8. Dan George
Re: [luau] Re: spare parts
Vince Ive been working on a program with Brian Low and that is setting up LTSPs into classrooms. You can contact me or Brian Low about this and if your interest we can bring you into some of our meetings about this. We are setting up non profit status and implementing a wireless services network for students who cannot afford it. Dan On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 12:20, Vince Hoang wrote: Hi folks, I just found/joined this list last night. I have a box full of spare computer parts. The list includes various: cables (power, floppy, IDE, SCSI, cat5) converters (ps2, db9, rs232, XT, AT keyboard) extenders (ps2, video) mice Is there a place I can donate this stuff to, preferably in bulk? I am half inclined to junk it all, but my better half will not forgive me if I simply throw them away without some recycle/reuse effort. Thanks, -Vince ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] linux classes (fwd)
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 17:01, Eric Jeschke wrote: Yes there are here. Forwarded your email for support. Dan -- Forwarded message -- I'm forwarding your mail to the statewide linux mailing list. I believe there are some classes on Oahu periodically. Can someone please reply to this gentleman? THX, -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:42:26 -1000 From: Dennis Scarla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear BILUG, I am a telscope operator for Subaru Telescope. For my work it would be very useful if I knew LINUX. Can you direct me to an intructional source? My empoloyer will pay for a class or tutoring if I can locate same. I am able to travel to O'ahu, if necessary. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] [Fwd: INFO]
This is interesting. ---BeginMessage--- I don't understand that a greater amount of information being passed back and forth is mostly news and events. Is there anyone else here who feels that discussions of applications,projects ongoing or future projects someone is working on here in Hawaii, or just more technical information would be more edifying? I know Brian Low has the Voyager project ongoing with a workable model that is really interesting. Maybe someone out there would like to get involved and gain some background knowledge at the same time. Dan ---End Message---
[luau] INFO
I don't understand that a greater amount of information being passed back and forth is mostly news and events. Is there anyone else here who feels that discussions of applications,projects ongoing or future projects someone is working on here in Hawaii, or just more technical information would be more edifying? I know Brian Low has the Voyager project ongoing with a workable model that is really interesting. Maybe someone out there would like to get involved and gain some background knowledge at the same time. Dan
Re: [luau] gaim with encryption plugin
Has anyone tested you yet?? Did you pass?? On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 09:46, Warren Togami wrote: Anybody use gaim here? Please help me test gaim with the encryption plugin. This .i386.rpm is for Red Hat 8.0. http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/~warren/bleeding-edge/gaim-0.60cvs-20021102.i386.rpm This .src.rpm should rebuild fine in Mandrake 9.0: http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/~warren/bleeding-edge/gaim-0.60cvs-20021102.i386.rpm Tarball of source: http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/~warren/gaim-temp/gaim-0.60cvs.tar.gz Message me on AIM at Laven2. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Status of ITEC planning
Warren Brian is on vacation in Florida until next week. Dan On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 23:50, Warren Togami wrote: Brian, What is the status of current ITEC plans? Warren ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] flash plugins
Doesnt this show that flash 5 is installed and should be working? Shockwave Flash File name: libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 5.0 r50 Mime Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes
Re: [luau] List Policy
That makes sense. But I think this has preoccupied enough time and Warren has a decision to make on what action he feels needs to be taken. If someone wants to conduct business with someone whose soliciting help then let them do it with personal emails do not use the list to conduct business. If you need help and get over your head than gather your questions and ask them in a single posting then anyone who wants to respond directly can. But lets not kick a dead dog and over analyze everything. On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 17:50, Elayne Man wrote: Okay, let's stop (indirectly) pointing fingers here... it may have been better to personally contact Ed about his e-mails, but nobody's perfect. If you have a problem with someone, try to take it out on them personally; the whole list doesn't need to know. (Maybe something of this extent can be added to the policy that Scott is writing?) George, you often talk about how lousy the LUAU operation is, and stated a couple of times about your CLUE group in Denver. So why don't you become a part of the solution by telling us how CLUE runs their group? Let's learn by example experience. I remember Warren mentioning that the Silicon Valley Linux Users Group had an interesting list policy worth looking at: http://www.svlug.org/policies/list-policy.shtml Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - quite true elayne Joe Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I agree fully with you, but I guess at this point I see this as problem where a single individual is enforcing policy where no policy exists. Now you can ask is the problem do to a lack of policy or an individual who makes up policy on the spot, with little thought as he goes along. Since I was at the brunt of this in the past, I guess I can admit that a certain amount of bad blood is coming out now as I see the same thing happening to others that happened in the past to me. An yes, I agree this is definitely not in the interest of actually building and open source community. I would like to point out that I'm also a member of the CLUE group in Denver, and there are is virtually no equivalent problem. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] solicit
Neal How do you like the look and feel of RH 8.0? I really find it great as a desktop application. The Ximian mail application works better than K-mail or even MS. I know Crossover and VMware have great features allowing the convergence of MS and RH. Dan On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 12:11, Neal Gay Timon wrote: I have a peer to peer windows network at my dental office. It seems to gradually operate slower and slower unless I shut the system down and reboot. The proprietary dental software I use mandates a Windows environment (I think) and I hate the problems of computers freezing, losing the data base, etc. I understand using Linux in the background may be an answer. I have bought Red Hat 8.0, installed it at home and will play with it today to try and share a wireless network with my neighbor. I want help with the office project if it is feasible and will be beneficial. Neal Timon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 808 5331100 808 5212441 downtown area Honolulu ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[Fwd: Re: [luau] non-profit incorporation]
Maybe you could change it to Opensource Education Foundation Hawaii and leave room to create additional chapters nation wide like Opensource Education Foundation San Francisco, etc. You may loose a little control over the name but the same time the risks would be minimal compared to the unique opportunity for a large network support of Opensource advocates and more political clout. ---BeginMessage--- - Original Message - From: R. Scott Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [luau] non-profit incorporation The Hawaii Education Foundation for Open Source Technology Wordy but perhaps appropriately prestigious. I like this as the front-runner. I also like Bob's point and will be watching the sky for alternatives as the details are completed. scott I'm in favor of something along the lines of: Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation I personally feel that Technology isn't as important as the other aspects of the name, and the name is a bit long. The The isn't really needed either. Folks, please comment on other potential names, and we'll have a vote soon. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ---End Message---
[luau] List Fight
Ive been networkingaround for twenty years and I haventseen Microsoft groupies get into spats like this. Cant it just go away and discuss more pertinent subject matter. So much to know and learn about Opensource than to waste time talking over and over again about absolutely nothing. Thanks!
[luau] Virus Scan/Checker
I need a good virus scanner like Innoculate for Linux. Any suggestions. I just got hammered with a virus and had to wipe out all my data on my laptop before I tried to send any emails to anyone. I noticed this when I was unable to send emails to my intented clients and instead they were going to a folder which I guess someone created a user account on disguised as a MPLUG member. I didnt check everyone on the list, which was my mistake, and assumed it could have been someone on the list I didnt know. The email was disquised as a newbie needing hardware compliant PDA for 7.3. Dan
Re: [luau] Virus Scan/Checker
R. Scott Belford wrote: On Saturday 17 August 2002 08:28, you wrote: I need a good virus scanner like Innoculate for Linux. Any suggestions. I just got hammered with a virus and had to wipe out all my data on my laptop What OS do you need the scanner for? before I tried to send any emails to anyone. I noticed this when I was unable to send emails to my intented clients and instead they were going to a folder which I guess someone created a user account on disguised as a MPLUG member. I didnt check everyone on the list, which was my mistake, and assumed it could have been someone on the list I didnt know. The email was disquised as a newbie needing hardware compliant PDA for 7.3 What OS were you running when it happened? scott ___ I wasnt running any virus scanner just filters and firewall. I dont think RH7.3 has a virus scan like innoculate. I ran a dual boot at first hoping to be able to config it from Unix platform but it didnt work. Dan
Re: [luau] Software RAID (Donation of Oracle 9i Linux)
Add RAID to 4 drives better. I have 5-20gb hdds and have RAID on the last 4. You cant add RAID to the hdd you have the OS installed. I have 1,5. Good to have Parity especially with the electrical systems here in Hawaii where the average lifespan of a P/S is 1 1/2 years. Too much flux in the voltage. - Original Message - From: Brian Low [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: RE: [luau] Software RAID (Donation of Oracle 9i Linux) What would be the point of doing a RAID with 1 drive :) You get 0 redundency. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Hattemer Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Software RAID (Donation of Oracle 9i Linux) In litteral terms, you can do software raid on linux with 1 HD and two partitions. However, it probably hurts performance, rather than improving it. The multiple heads on a hard drive all line up vertically and scan what's called a cyllinder (multiple sectors stacked on top of each other). They cannot read two partitions at the same time. You could test out software raid with two partitions, but I don't think you'd be too happy with it. You can probably get RAID 1 going with a very slight advantage. It won't save you in case your drive fails entirely, but if you start to get bad sectors or filesystem errors, at least your HD is backed up on another partition. -Eric Hattemer - Original Message - From: W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: [luau] Software RAID (Donation of Oracle 9i Linux) Not really :) Just thought that with the current advancement of multiple-head HDs, things might have changed. But I suppose if someone can develop a new type of BIOS? ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Linux games
MonMotha wrote: ryuhei yokokawa wrote: can you attach your wine config file to the next reply please i'm interested in your configurations I haven't used WINE in months now, but I'll ask my friend if he still has the config he used to play HL in wine. I saw it with my own eyes, it definately works (and this was on wine like a year ago), though no where near as fast as Windoze (like 22FPS instead of probably 80 in doze). There were some sound issues too, but remember this was an old snapshot (wasn't too long after they got Starcraft working actually). --MonMotha It
Re: [luau] Massive Flash Plugin Security Hole
On Monday 12 August 2002 20:27, you wrote: On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 20:19, Dan George wrote: Warren Can you tell me how to install flash on Linux 7.1 or 7.3? Ive tried following the directions but never could get them to work in Netscape Plugins. Red Hat 7.1, 7,2 and 7.3 actually come with the Flash plugin as part of the Netscape package, but it is a very old version that they aren't allowed to upgrade due to licensing problems. Not like the current new version is any better or anything. It is still incredibly unstable and completely unusable for LTSP thin clients, while supporting only Flash version 5. That may be true that Flash5 exists within the Netscape Plugin but for some reason my daughter goes to zoogdisney.com and it always states that the Flash5 has to be downloaded. I did exactly what the instructions stated to do and still doesnt recognize the Flash5 as a plugin for the Netscape. Unfortunately shes become a Bill Gates fan simply because Uncle Bill allows her to play zoogdisney. How can I argue my way out of that?!
Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)
Its gets frustrating having to reinstall over and over again. On Monday 12 August 2002 20:35, you wrote: Maybe somebody can post instructions on how to download the beta Linux and how to compile the kernel and set it up. I would appreciate it. I failed to get it right on four attempts. Yes Im in between newbie and novice. But probably closer to newbie. The kernel howto is a good place to start. Expect to make some mistakes the first few times. I compiled about 3 kernels before I got it right, and this was on a 486 taking 4 hours every time :) --Monmotha ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: I installed Red Hat (both 7.3 and Limbo) in one of my machines with a Linksys LNE100TX card. This is the only distro that couldn't recognize my Linksys card. (Based on the difference b/t 7.3 and Limbo, it is apparent that Red Hat is trying to expand into the desktop territory. But, all things considered, I am more convinced that I need to upgrade my Mandrake club membership level; we definitely can't let Mandrake die.) Can anyone tell me which of the ethernet cards supported by Red Hat also uses tulip driver? ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau Desktop 3COM 90X Laptop Netgear 4a11 7.3 recognizes fine
Re: [luau] Massive Flash Plugin Security Hole
Warren Togami wrote: I usually don't post about Windows security holes on this list, but this is a massive one that can potentially wreak havoc to desktop clients should your users visit the wrong websites or receive the wrong e-mail attachment. Please be sure to upgrade your Flash plugin. It appears that Macromedia released a new Flash plugin for Linux several days ago too. http://idg.net/ic_933538_1794_9-1.html Security flaw found in Shockwave Flash http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/frameset.fhtml?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash Macromedia Flash Download - will auto-detect your operating system ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau Warren Can you tell me how to install flash on Linux 7.1 or 7.3? Ive tried following the directions but never could get them to work in Netscape Plugins.
Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)
Ray Strode wrote: I do not appreciate overbroad comments along the lines of Because card X doesn't work in distro Y, distro Y is negligent to desktop Linux. Red Hat is negligent toward desktop Linux for other reasons. =) Easy now You misread what he said. He said something along the lines of.: Well, the new beta of RedHat obviously has a more improved setup for desktop users than 7.3 did, but I still want to support Mandrake, instead, because they are smaller and could use more help. Having a bad day? --Ray ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau Maybe somebody can post instructions on how to download the beta Linux and how to compile the kernel and set it up. I would appreciate it. I failed to get it right on four attempts. Yes Im in between newbie and novice. But probably closer to newbie.
Re: [luau] Linksys and Red Hat (Not)
Warren Togami wrote: On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 13:57, Ray Strode wrote: Easy now You misread what he said. He said something along the lines of.: Well, the new beta of RedHat obviously has a more improved setup for desktop users than 7.3 did, but I still want to support Mandrake, instead, because they are smaller and could use more help. Having a bad day? --Ray How dare you question me! j/j Yeah, a bit stressed out here. I misunderstood Wayne a bit, and perhaps I miscommunicated a bit in last post, I could have made it more clear that I think Mandrake is doing a much better at end-user desktop Linux than Red Hat. I should have also mentioned that I contribute money to both Red Hat and Mandrake, and it is imperative that both companies must not die. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau Warren Are you joking around? Ive never seen you peeved.
[luau] KMAIL
In 7.3 trying to configure smtp, where is the option to use clear text for RR. I only see Plain and two others that arent compatible. RE:Kmail. Im currently sending this via Modzilla mail.
[luau] Brian
Brian When you get a chance, can you call me. I have a couple questions for you. Dan Also: RedHat agent in town going over plans on security system at airport. Tried to get hold of the training department at RedHat Friday. We are still thinking RedHat later but LPI for now.
Re: [luau] Linux Journal/Linux Calendar
Do you pay for your Linux Journal subscription? - Original Message - From: W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 10:18 AM Subject: [luau] Linux Journal/Linux Calendar The August issue of Linux Journal comes with a 17-month Linux calendar. Mandrake is going to demo its 64-bit Konqueror running on Hammer tomorrow. This step may be as small as when Armstrong's first set his foot on the moon. But the implications can be just as big. And we can celebrate it by hanging a Linux calendar in our offices or labs. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Linux Journal/Linux Calendar
Just to let you know you can get a subscription for free by following the instructions below. 1. Use your business name that you make the primary decisions and already carry the competitors issue for free. 2. Dont sign up for an extended subscription and they pick some candidates up for free subscriptions. 3. Students dont apply to #1 or #2. 4. List your position on a non profit group and with references to two or more members and non profit #. 5. Send contributing information even if it doesnt get published it could win you a lifetime subscription. I did number 5 with the help of a friend and now Im set for life. My subscription expires on Aug 03 but every year it changes to 04,05 etc. I just support them with just about every tad bit of information I encounter on my own. I always ask permission otherwise if I could use some useful and send it to them. - Original Message - From: W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 10:55 AM Subject: [luau] Linux Journal/Linux Calendar I have both Linux Journal and Linux Magazine since their inauguration. In fact I had the first issue of Linux Mag carefully wrapped and kept in my safe. A few years ago, the inaugural issue of PC Mag fetched over $100,000. You may never know, but twenty years from now that inaugural issue of Linux Mag of mine may worth a lot. :-) ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] kpackage
Does that come distributed on Oahu? Maybe a free trial version? - Original Message - From: al plant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [luau] kpackage W. Wayne Liauh wrote: KDE is great. However, if you are like me, who use Linux DESKTOP for a living, you will try to eliminate every possible source of problem, then you definitely want to use a simpler window manager. The best window manager for Linux is a repackaged version of IceWM, put together by our own George of Kailua. This is very different from the stock IceWM, and if you're serious about using Linux desktop for your business, you really should talk to George. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau We run XFCE on all our Linux and Unix Boxes here. It's lean and mean for a GUI. -- Aloha! Al Plant - Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com Providing FAST DSL Service for $28.00 /mo. Member Small Business Hawaii. Running FreeBSD 4.5 UNIX Caldera Linux 2.4 RedHat 7.2 Support OPEN SOURCE in Business Computing. Phone 808-622-0043 ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] Linux site with HP
http://www.hp.com/united-states/linux/ This is a great site for those who are wanting to see what HP has in store for Linux. I may be even able to change my HP Jornado 568 from a Pocket PC to Linux PC.
Re: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project
Brian Low wrote: I am asking the group if I could get other peo! pe to come into PriceBusters and assist in helping me in inventory and cleanup. Can you please reply to this e-mail to indicate if you will be able to help out or not. I will be calling PriceBusters later today and find out their times of operation and what type of time they would be willing to give us. Once the room is clean, we will need to pull the 50 or so monitors that need to be brought to PriceBusters. Again I am asking if you all will be willing to help on this. Can you also reply back to this e-mail. Thanks, Brian Brian I can help sometime during the week in the afternoon or weekend. I just have trouble getting transportation sometimes. My wife and I are down to one car and I ususally walk to work and back home again Monday-Friday. Just let me know when you need the help and I will try to work around it. Dan Update: Brian Low is picking up the 17 monitors from the military today at 1:00pm, then dropping them off at Midpac around 2:30pm. He is then taking the 15 monitors at Midpac to Pricebusters for storage. Thanks Brian! We still need to discuss the broken monitor situation with Royal Data, so we will deal with those early next week. - Original Message - From: R. Scott Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project Al, Thanks for taking care of that for us. You and Julie are huge (figuratively, not literally) :-) I will be back next week to help store these neatly or deploy them if needed. Sorry for the latency, I lost my cable modem link for a few days here. Also, my thanks to whoever took the time to help transport these monitors, and of course to you, Jeff, for the stuff. scott ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] CompUSA meeting
Warren and Group How many can make it tomarrow between 9:30 and 10:00am at CompUSA? I know youd be there Warren, correct? Thanks Dan
Re: [luau] CompUSA meeting
Warren Togami wrote: Oh crap. I've been telling everyone 10am.Yes, I will be there. Ho'ala Greevy, Brian Low and Elayne Man said theywould be there too.- Original Message -From: "Dan George" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 4:29 PMSubject: [luau] CompUSA meeting Warren and Group How many can make it tomarrow between9:30 and 10:00am at CompUSA? I know youd be there Warren, correct?ThanksDan ___LUAU mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau Warren Thats ok. Mark mentioned that Jim will be there also, the GM. Everyone is looking forward to meeting the group. Margaret is supposed to be getting breakfast for everyone in the group. I think your going to like the results. John has spoken highly of you. You will see him tomarrow also. They would also like to find out about your booths at the Expo. CompUSA has had previous help with this with Oceanic but will be on its own and would like to hear your thoughts on that as well. Jim just doesnt meet with anyone. He does carry alot of weight and has contacts all around Oahu and Maui. He could be a great contributor to MPLUG. I can explain why in person later. Dan
[luau] Fwd: Need Candidates
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Need Candidates Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:33:25 -1000 From: Fumi Nakamae Korodan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rr. Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Dan, How are you? Hope all is well for you there... URGENT NEEDS: 1.Senior Branch Systems Developer and Metavante Business Analyst (all direct hires) for a local back client (Honolulu). 2.Three Field Engineers in Tokyo (all direct hires), with Cisco/Unix background, for my client's Tokyo Data Center operation. 3. Programmers with some Video Game Development background as well as C, C++, 3D, Direct X, OpenGL, etc. These are Honolulu positions. Do you know anyone who I can contact? Please let me know. I was hoping that you knew someone. I do await for your response! Hope you are doing great there... Thank you. Sincerely, ~~ Fumi Nakamae Korodan NAKAMAE HR CONSULTANTS LLC IT/Technical Recruiters Ocean View Center 707 Richards Street, Suite 508 Honolulu, Hawaii 96813 U.S.A. +1.808.548.0095 Telephone +1.808.548.0096 Facsimile +1.808.299.1433 Digital Pager --- Dear Dan, Howare you? Hope all is well for you there... URGENT NEEDS: 1. Senior Branch Systems Developer and Metavante Business Analyst (all direct hires) for a local back client (Honolulu). 2. Three FieldEngineers in Tokyo (all direct hires),with Cisco/Unix background, for my client's Tokyo Data Center operation. 3. Programmers with someVideo Game Development background as well as C, C++, 3D, Direct X, OpenGL, etc. These are Honolulu positions. Do you know anyone who I can contact?Please let me know. I was hoping that youknew someone. I do await for your response! Hopeyou are doing great there... Thank you. Sincerely, ~~ Fumi Nakamae Korodan NAKAMAEHR CONSULTANTS LLC IT/Technical Recruiters Ocean View Center 707 Richards Street, Suite 508 Honolulu, Hawaii 96813 U.S.A. +1.808.548.0095 Telephone +1.808.548.0096 Facsimile +1.808.299.1433 Digital Pager
Re: [luau] Fwd: Need Candidates
Ray Do you know her email? On Thursday 01 August 2002 14:09, you wrote: You may want to forward these messages to Lei Wakayama, so she can post to the various ics lists. --Ray ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] Meeting Tonight
Can anyone help me set this up on my box? I havent used chat yet. Thanks!
Re: [luau] Fwd: Need Candidates
Ray Strode wrote: Do you know her email? [EMAIL PROTECTED] i believe. --Ray ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau Thanks Ray
[luau] Meeting Tonight
Warren Signed up with gaim. What time is the meeting tonight? Dan
Re: [luau] Beowulf Linux Cluster on Sale
Have you thought of donating it to charity for a tax right off? You probably would get more for your money that way since those units arent worth much now. And you would be doing something good for education also. On Wednesday 31 July 2002 11:50, you wrote: Dear All the Linuxers here. My name is Albert S. Kim. I really don't know whether I can post an advertisement in this e-mail list. A few years ago, I built a small Beowulf Linux cluster for parallel computing. Since I have a better system now, the cluster system is on SALE. The cluster is composed of 4 PCs, and each computer has Intel Pentium 450MHz CPU 128 MB memory. (One of them has 192MB memory). CD rom network card (netgear FX310), and floppy. hard drive (a few Gigs). A private subnetwork is already set up for local communication with Red Hat 6.2 OS. Anybody interested in buying this, please contact me. I haven't decide the price yet, so that it is still negotiable. Albert == Albert Sechurl Kim Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering University of Hawaii at Manoa 2540 Dole Street, Holmes 383 Honolulu, Hawaii 96822 USA Phone: (808) 956-3718 Fax: (808) 956-5014 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Content-Type: text/html; charset=ks_c_5601-1987; name=Attachment: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Description:
Re: [luau] Any hardware gurus present?
I know somewhat but have done this about 5 or 6 years ago. Kyle Hasegawa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is to hardware as you are to Linux Montha. He can answer your questions and you may be able to trade your Linux knowledge with him. He is just getting into Linux 7.3 and probably will ask you questions as well. On Wednesday 31 July 2002 17:19, you wrote: Just curious if any hardware hackers are present. Recently I've begun to tinker with various things (dangling stuff off the paralell port, smbus, etc), and I was wondering if anyone on here had a stash of documents useful for this (like pinouts for common things in your average PC: DIMM slot, Socket 7/370/A/etc, etc). --MonMotha ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Any hardware gurus present?
MonMotha wrote: Is he on the list by chance? --MonMotha Dan George wrote: I know somewhat but have done this about 5 or 6 years ago. Kyle Hasegawa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is to hardware as you are to Linux Montha. He can answer your questions and you may be able to trade your Linux knowledge with him. He is just getting into Linux 7.3 and probably will ask you questions as well. On Wednesday 31 July 2002 17:19, you wrote: Just curious if any hardware hackers are present. Recently I've begun to tinker with various things (dangling stuff off the paralell port, smbus, etc), and I was wondering if anyone on here had a stash of documents useful for this (like pinouts for common things in your average PC: DIMM slot, Socket 7/370/A/etc, etc). --MonMotha not yet. I just told him about mplug/luau. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] New IBM Linux commercial
On Monday 29 July 2002 19:12, you wrote: I just saw a new IBM linux commercial. Gal sitting at what would appear to be a board meeting then fakign an excuse to get out. Something about the networks being bullet proof. Unfortunately, I don't have a TV card hooked up right now to capture it. Maybe someone else does? --MonMotha You can download it from the IBM site.
Re: [luau] Login Screen in Red Hat
On Monday 29 July 2002 08:33, you wrote: When I first installed RH 7.3, I chose GNOME as default desktop. During my second installation, I chose KDE and I got a different login screen. How can I get back to my GNOME login screen? ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau 1. Before you enter your password and login you can choose what your session you want and make that your default. 2. I dont know if it works in 7.3 yet but I used switch (simple) or switchx to switch from one session to another.
Re: [luau] Login Screen in Red Hat
On Monday 29 July 2002 09:29, you wrote: On Monday 29 July 2002 08:33, you wrote: When I first installed RH 7.3, I chose GNOME as default desktop. During my second installation, I chose KDE and I got a different login screen. How can I get back to my GNOME login screen? ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau 1. Before you enter your password and login you can choose what your session you want and make that your default. 2. I dont know if it works in 7.3 yet but I used switch (simple) or switchx to switch from one session to another. __ I stand corrected its switchdesktop I have an alias to switchx setup.
Re: [luau] MSWindows
On Sunday 28 July 2002 07:49, you wrote: Jimen Ching wrote: On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Daniel J Nishimura wrote: By the way, Linux and Unix isn't harder to configure, it is just that the configuration is NOT LIKE Windows. People are so brain washed into the Windows way of doing things, that anything else is considered 'difficult'. Sorry if this turned into a rant. I am just tired of people complaining why Unix is so user unfriendly, and why programmers like myself flock to Linux. Even if you look just at the surface only, the answer is so obvious. --jc Actually, I think you hit the nail on the head with those last two paragraphs. Linux isn't inherently harder to use for Average Joe (who doesn't isntall his own OS or most of his software anyway), it's just *different*, and that scares Joe. --MonMotha ___ Scares me a little so I cant complain. Sometimes doing the simplest thing like loading flash 6 to my RH71 so my daughter can check out zoogdisney.. Just trying to get her used to Linux. But I must have did something wrong and the Flash site was incorrect in the instructions on how to install on a Linux machine. LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] MS Office, WordPerfect, StarOffice
Why was it all downhill from there between 97 and 2K? I know 2K is far better than Office XP. Please comment on the major differences. Thanks Dan
Re: [luau] HardDisc Partitioning
On Sunday 28 July 2002 09:05, you wrote: W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Below is the HD partitioning in my newly installed RedHat 7.3. I am planning to re-install Red Hat and add 2 GB to /home and /usr each (b/c I will need to install Win4Lin by creating a Windows partition in /home). I plan to cut the root and tmp partitions to 1 GB each. Any comments? Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda6 2522048 95608 2298324 4% / /dev/hda1 147766 8965131172 7% /boot /dev/hda3 5036316103112 4677372 3% /home none257180 0257180 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda5 2522048 89340 2304592 4% /tmp /dev/hda2 5036316 2003808 2776676 42% /usr /dev/hda8 13756872 87112 12970936 1% /var Just one, why is your /var so big? at 13.5GB it's the biggest partition on your system while being one of the least used. Unless you are running a mail server or news server, /var is generally only used to store logs and some config files. --MonMotha Shouldnt the root or USR folder be the largest?
Re: [luau] processor opinion
On Sunday 28 July 2002 09:06, you wrote: Rodney Kanno wrote: I am going to upgrade my home computer, but I am unsure of what processor to go with, AMD or Pentium 4. The main uses of the computer would be for 3D modeling/animation, video creation/editing, and the usual desktop apps (office, cd burning/encoding, etc...) Any suggestions/opinions? Thanks, Rodney For video encoding, Pentium 4s are actually SLIGHTLY faster than Athlons. However, they come at a hefty price tag. At this point however, I'd wait for the AMD Hammers to come out. The developer's samples have been very promising and 64 bit computing can't hurt :) --MonMotha This sledgehammer chip is b-ing but I dont have a MLB to test it on yet. Nice of AMD to send me a chip I cannot use. Its supposed to be the one.
[luau] Cable Modems
RR also has the Toshiba PCX1100U which is what I use. I havent had any problems with it thus far. I have had problems with the bandwidth since they went down my neighborhood and did an audit on all the lines. I complained about this also just to find that when they placed a filter on my line (to prevent video or TV) they didnt crimp one end very well and the wind was pulling the wire from the coax connector. I put in a new connector and crimped it properly now I have a good connection. Their excuse: we just contract out those jobs and are not responsible for the work done. I received clarification the next day without calling in which means they have someone that overlooks all complaints and that person emailed me and apologized for the remarks made and said they will contact the contractor who did the job and give me one month free of RR.
Re: [luau] Mouse Wheel in Red Hat 7.3
On Saturday 27 July 2002 10:37, you wrote: Just installed Red Hat 7.3 last night. This is the only distro that does not detect my mouse wheel. Can anyone help? In the future, when you install it, make sure you set the mouse to the Intellimouse option. For now, you can just go into your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and change the occurance of PS/2 to IMPS/2 and below that line add a line that says: Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 (then start or restart X) --Ray ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau Pointer section # ** Section Pointer ProtocolPS/2 Device /dev/psaux #For wheel support - can not be used with Emulate3Buttons # #ZAxisMapping 4 5 # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. #Protocol Xqueue # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice #BaudRate 9600 #SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice This example here from my config file how do I edit this? It doesnt allow me to edit even though Im root. Dan
[luau] Lighter Note
On a lighter note. When you want to get rid of door to door solicitors just put out a size 18 slipper/thongs. I kept getting door to door people including Jehovah and Mormons and since I put out the slippers, they dont come around anymore. The thongs my wife picked up at the swap meet for $5.00. It works better then the sign we put on the door that never worked. Dan
[luau] Mouse Config
Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 # Modified by mouseconfig Driver mouse Option Device/dev/mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons no Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection This should work?
Re: [luau] Mouse Config
7.3 Mouse Config for Scroll Mouse Option Dan George wrote: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 # Modified by mouseconfig Driver mouse Option Device/dev/mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons no Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection This should work worked for me. Thanks Ray.
[luau] MSWINDOWS
Eric I think the 2.4 kernel is more stable than the 2.2. I think RH7.1 and 7.2 are good distros. Im not so sure of 7.3 yet still learning. Any one else here may feel differently.
Re: [luau] good work MonMotha!
On Saturday 27 July 2002 18:02, you wrote: Just checked out the wiki site and like the changes Mon, Hey, you should move to Hawaii... ;-} Back to the grindstone. --lucidity I second that. With your abilities theres are market here for you. Why waste your time in the midwest like I did. Or even back east. I guess your kind of in between. Anyways its not so bad. Theres always time to hit the beach. Trying to set up Linux training classes at Comp but have to get enough interested people and some RH guy to come out and ok us for RHCE program. How many of you here would be interested in a RHCE track in Hawaii???
Re: [luau] good work MonMotha!
I would, if I could do it a little at a time. In March, I have to go back to one of those boats that sink on purpose. Speaking of market here, what's the scoops on jobs for a competent but not quite expert *NIX administrator here? I don't get out of the Navy for a few years, but it's time to start deciding at least where I want to live afterwards. I know cchono was looking for a Linux person a couple of years ago, but couldn't pay much. I almost took it part-time for free DSL/co-lo. Then it turned out I couldn't get DSL here. I can connect you will an IT PRO at the Navy Marine facility or Hickam. Hes also an instructor at CompUSA. Hes on a mission right now aboard a sub and will be back in 4 mths. He hires MCSE and UNIX administrators but no civilians have made the cut. If your in the Navy then chance are you can get the proper security clearances that I cant at this time.
Re: [luau] Donating Monitors
On Thursday 25 July 2002 22:23, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [luau] Donating Monitors If your having trouble getting someone to repair your monitors, I will check with our local repair facility that repairs both TVs and Monitors to see what kind a deal he could swing. I figured repairing monitors isn't worth the cost, so I've just been giving all of our dead monitors to the repair guy rather than it all going in the dump. Do you know typical rates for monitor repair? Depends most of the ones we have go under warranty. But I would ask anyways just to see the going rate. Your right by saying most often its not worth the expense EXCEPTION flat panel monitors cost around $125 to repair but value around $550 and up.
Re: [luau] News - Bruce Perens plans on-stage DMCA violation
On Friday 26 July 2002 01:07, you wrote: Open Source Software advocate Bruce Perens plans to violate the DMCA on stage at the O'Reilly Open Source Convention in San Diego on Friday. While he will be breaking the law, he probably wont be arrested because of his high profile status. There would be a high likelihood that he would win the court battle (after appeals) and thus set a precedent invalidating the DMCA in the Supreme Court. Last year Russian programmer Dmitri Skylarov was arrested while visiting America for writing software in Russia that is legal under Russian law. Adobe took offense to his actions and had him arrested under the DMCA. He was arrested mainly because those in power thought that the American public wouldn't be outraged because he is a foreign Russian (lingering Cold War anger) hacker (evil person who breaks into computers). Ironically, if Bruce Perens is NOT arrested after this announced DMCA violation does this not clearly show that America is the land of selective prosection based upon your economic and social status? HERE, HERE! Totally agree with that! http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/07/23/020723hnperens.xml ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] DSL for Servers (Was configuring router)
On Friday 26 July 2002 07:57, you wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 07:51:44PM -1000, Steven Tomlinson wrote: Falcon I`o will be happy to provide DSL with as many static IPs as you require. Bronze level is 54.95 for including Verizon charges (37.95 to Verizon for the local loop 17.00 to Falcon I`o for the Internet access). This also includes access to our wireless network and wireless hotspots. I'd be happy to jump right on that if Verizon [spit] would get off their butts and offer DSL in my neighborhood. Two years ago, they said they had plans for it, but still nada. Center street area, between Kam and Pearl Harbor Nimitz gate. Lots of people here with money and desire, but no service. I dont know about that. My neighbors came over and asked me to help them get connected to their Verizon DSL box. They had an non upgradeable Dell they just bought for $800 but I installed an internal NIC card and connected them to the DSL modem. Even though the connection from the computer to the DSL connection exist and runs, theyve been dropped several times because I fear that the quality of cable, which has resided since the cane fields were here, isnt rated for DSL. I know my phone line has quite alot of static.
Re: [luau] RE: LUAU digest, Vol 1 #300 - 14 msgs
I just think times are hard here and everyone is trying to survive like me. I think Al and Steven should be allowed to share what they have to offer. Feuding between us just helps those big guys more happy. Whenever I went hunting with my father he always said, be careful where your pointing the gun! Or remember what your hunting for. On Friday 26 July 2002 17:50, you wrote: Aloha Al, I've never met you either, feel free to call anytime. Not looking to start a war, sorry if I was stepping on your territory. You offered a solution to a problem so I did too. Of course everyone knows about the RoadRunner Verizon DSL monopolies since they have millions of dollars to spend on marketing. But most people do not know about the unique services and willingness to accomodate special requests available from smaller ISPs such as yours and mine. Sorry if I offended anyone else by announcing the availablity of our service as a possible solution to the problem being discussed. Mahalo, Steven Tomlinson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 5:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LUAU digest, Vol 1 #300 - 14 msgs Send LUAU mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of LUAU digest... Today's Topics: 1. Low-cost Linux server or co-location (Configuring Router) (Steven Tomlinson) 2. Re: Low-cost Linux server or co-location (Configuring Router) (al plant) 3. Re: News - Bruce Perens plans on-stage DMCA violation (MonMotha) 4. Re: Non-Profit Group registration (R. Scott Belford) 5. Re: Re: Configuring Router (Michael Ableyev) 6. Re: Low-cost Linux server or co-location (Configuring Router) (Cliff Brown) 7. Re: Low-cost Linux server or co-location (Configuring Router) (Dustin Cross) 8. Re: Re: Configuring Router (MonMotha) 9. Re: OpenOffice 1.0.1 (Dean Fujioka) 10. Re: Donating Monitors (Dean Fujioka) 11. Re: News - Bruce Perens plans on-stage DMCA violation (Dean Fujioka) 12. Re: Donating Monitors (Dan George) 13. Re: Non-Profit Group registration (Jimen Ching) 14. Re: News - Bruce Perens plans on-stage DMCA violation (Dan George) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Steven Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:26:49 -1000 Subject: [luau] Low-cost Linux server or co-location (Configuring Router) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aloha Fellow Linux Users, If you are a hobbyist or simply learning and looking for a co-location situation, we will be happy to accomodate a low cost solution. Our office is located near Ala Moana. Steve Tomlinson Falcon I`o Internet Services www.falconio.com 330-1647 --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:45:33 -1000 From: al plant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Low-cost Linux server or co-location (Configuring Router) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steven Tomlinson wrote: Aloha Fellow Linux Users, If you are a hobbyist or simply learning and looking for a co-location situation, we will be happy to accomodate a low cost solution. Our office is located near Ala Moana. Steve Tomlinson Falcon I`o Internet Services www.falconio.com 330-1647 ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ### I don't know who you are, but If you want to start an ISP war on this site you are leaning that way. This list has run for years without it. There are a lot of ISP's on this list including RoadRunner and ourselves. I think the folks on this list are capable of researching their own solutions. Aloha! Al Plant - Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com Providing FAST DSL Service for $28.00 /mo. Member Small Business Hawaii. Running FreeBSD 4.5 UNIX Caldera Linux 2.4 RedHat 7.2 Support OPEN SOURCE in Business Computing. Phone 808-622-0043 --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:58:48 -0500 From: MonMotha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] News - Bruce Perens plans on-stage DMCA violation Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warren Togami wrote: Open Source Software advocate Bruce Perens plans to violate the DMCA on stage at the O'Reilly Open Source Convention in San Diego on Friday. While he will be breaking the law, he probably wont be arrested because of his high profile status. There would be a high likelihood that he would win the court battle (after appeals
Re: [luau] MSWindows
One thing is Windows is overpriced for what you get. Windows is not as configurable as Linux or opensource. Bill Gates is a Pirate. First stealing from Steve Jobs then telling everyone else not to steal from him. When Paladium comes out, you wont be asking that question again. You will just wonder why it took you so long to convert. Why do I get over 80% of my calls from people complaining about windows. And why are 100% of those BTOs we sell with Linux arent complaining at all. Try the fact that over 62% of those who converted to Linux are saving $$$ within the first couple months. They want to kick themselves. I called one customer (followup call) to see how his Linux box was working. He told me he was configuring his kernel and call him back in about 6mths because he wanted to do so much now in customizing his system. He said the changes are going to save him $$$ in fees and its fun!! On Saturday 26 January 2002 19:14, you wrote: Sup guys, I'm a heavy Windows user, and a Linux newbie. Why are open-source gurus so adamant towards Microsoft? my opinion after surfing around numerous open-source communities. Is it because they don't give their software away for free? I know Linux dudes say it sucks but why? What makes it better? I'm not trying to cause a fight with you guys, I like my Red Hat, just wanted to hear some opinions. Thanks. Randall Oshita Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name=Attachment: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
[luau] Java2 beta download file
an rpm.bin is a binary file and should be moved to /bin after download? I downloaded a java2 release from Sun and tried to install it.
Re: [luau] Re: Configuring Router
I would follow MonMothas advise for setting up a firewall with a Linux router to keep out unwanted sniffers. On Wednesday 24 July 2002 19:43, you wrote: I switched to DSL so I wouldn't have to deal with this stuff. Sandi and I run our our mail and web server for personal use and it would suck to have RR shut us down and not get e-mail until I got a new provider! Dusty I dont know if anyone here on a RR cable modem has ever had their packet sampled by RR. They check how much traffic your receiving and when they figure your setting up a server at home they do two things: 1. Contact you for an explaination. The fact your downloading a lot of graphics files doesnt cut it anymore because they know... 2. Cutdown your bandwidth to a miserable point where you have to discontinue running a server. I know this from experience with just trying to setup a W2K Adv FTP server for practice only. 3. Cutoff your account completely and put you on a list of violators. You will have to use your wifes name and new address before you can reconnect to RR. This news came from a FLEX guy. On Wednesday 24 July 2002 09:49, you wrote: Message: 1 From: Dan George [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting. So you can actually run a server at home without being detected by RR. Would like to know more details on that one. The USB-USB networking is available in the lastest 2.4 kernel (2.4.18). You need to build a new kernel with the feature in by selecting experimental in 'Code Maturity Options' from make menuconfig. This will make 'USB-USB Networking cable device support' appear in the USB section. Your USB port then becomes usable as /dev/eth1. Of course, this by itself doesn't give you firewalling/masquerading capability that makes your internal LAN undetectable by RR. But it does give you 2 network ports (one internal one external). Then it's a matter of installing iptables and using MonMotha's scripts to do masquerading. See: http://www.mplug.org/phpwiki/index.php/MonMothaReferenceGuide Tim Burgess ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Re: Configuring Router
Im willing to share time, that is going home to apt or whatever helping each member have what they need in networking services. Just as I am weak in Linux, Im strong in cabling and setting up LANs. Ive done it for year but only started on Linux when RH7.1 came out. Could trade services for hardware or whatever. I think its great working on a team effort. But alot of you all are already where you want to be and your time is valueble of course. I would like to attend a Samba class tonight but couldnt. Any other way I can support the group then let me know. On Wednesday 24 July 2002 20:44, you wrote: I'll second Dan's comment Ben On Wednesday 24 July 2002 07:26 pm, you wrote: Dan George wrote: Im all ears If anyone wants suggestions on hiding a NAT LAN I can give some. It's possible to make it pretty darn difficult to detect. --MonMotha A wiki would probably be more appropriate, with Warren's permission. --MonMotha ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Re: Configuring Router
The guy is very credible. On Wednesday 24 July 2002 01:15, you wrote: Dan George wrote: I dont know if anyone here on a RR cable modem has ever had their packet sampled by RR. They check how much traffic your receiving and when they figure your setting up a server at home they do two things: 1. Contact you for an explaination. The fact your downloading a lot of graphics files doesnt cut it anymore because they know... I've never been contacted and i've been doing it for years. 2. Cutdown your bandwidth to a miserable point where you have to discontinue running a server. I know this from experience with just trying to setup a W2K Adv FTP server for practice only. I routinely get between 600k/sec-1.1Mb/sec from videl and other fast sites, or do you mean upstream? 3. Cutoff your account completely and put you on a list of violators. You will have to use your wifes name and new address before you can reconnect to RR. This news came from a FLEX guy. As far as I can tell it isn't a violation. I spent a couple hours one day reading through all the EULA's and FAQs and things on roadrunner sites. The only thing I remember reading at all is they won't support you doing it. They won't help you. Maybe the flex guy was spreading fud? --Ray ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Re: Configuring Router
On Thursday 25 July 2002 17:44, you wrote: Dan George wrote: I dont know if anyone here on a RR cable modem has ever had their packet sampled by RR. They check how much traffic your receiving and when they figure your setting up a server at home they do two things: 1. Contact you for an explaination. The fact your downloading a lot of graphics files doesnt cut it anymore because they know... 2. Cutdown your bandwidth to a miserable point where you have to discontinue running a server. I know this from experience with just trying to setup a W2K Adv FTP server for practice only. 3. Cutoff your account completely and put you on a list of violators. You will have to use your wifes name and new address before you can reconnect to RR. This news came from a FLEX guy. # Hmmm... A subscriber should not run a server on a rr or DSL line. If you want to run a server I will be happy to provide you a T1 service for a fair price. True Al But most of us are just getting our certs and cannot afford a $2000 Cisco Router or a T-1 line whenever we are already spending $10k on classes and have to work a full time job in the process. If there was a poor mans server site than sign me up. But I really have a bad taste in my mouth whenever business's try to capitalize on the last dime I have in my pocket whenever I have a wife and two kids to feed. Hawaii wasnt the smartest move my wife decided on. Coming from a near 6 figure annual income in CA , I guess she thought I was invicible and decided to move back home here. Ive been here two years and seen nothing but crooks in government. A regular Mayberry RFD on the dark side. For every pot hole I hit reminds me of that fact daily. Yes, I would move back but not to lose my wife and kids in the process. I like the people here thought quite a bit. Like Warren and the gang. We are just helping each other get through the hard times.
Re: [luau] Donating Monitors
If your having trouble getting someone to repair your monitors, I will check with our local repair facility that repairs both TVs and Monitors to see what kind a deal he could swing. On Thursday 25 July 2002 20:32, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Dustin Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:46 PM Subject: [luau] Donating Monitors Aloha, Sandi and I still have several (approx 25) 15-17 pc monitors that work and a few that don't if the repair guy can use them for parts. We are ready to donate them. Sandi wants them donated to a non-profit org so we can write it off on the taxes. I don't think LUAU or MPLUG counts. Do we have any plan to deal with this? Dusty They could be donated to Mid-Pacific Institute and that would count for tax writeoff, although we would need to store them at Pricebusters for now because Mid-Pac is full. I will need to work on making MPLUG a real non-profit group. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Non-Profit Group registration
Warren You can get that information from Jackie Branch at CompUSA. I believe her extension is 6628 use my work prefix. Johns her boss. On Thursday 25 July 2002 20:32, you wrote: Anyone have information of how I can make MPLUG into a real non-profit group? ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Samba Course at HCC
Can I can get a 10 minute one on one question and answer session or buy you lunch or dinner along with the class. Kind of joking because I know your busy, but Im am fairly new at this and the questions are probably more general in setting up my network at home. On Tuesday 23 July 2002 21:28, you wrote: 3 more students needed for this Thursday's Samba class at HCC. Cost for the 1-session evening course is $185, which is a great investment considering licensing fees alone for a Win2k File Server start in the neighborhood of $1,000. Here's a snippet of what to expect: (http://www.hcc.hawaii.edu/pcatt/training/operatingsys/index.html) Samba Overview is for those of you wanting to integrate Samba running on Red Hat Linux with Microsoft Windows clients. Samba is a freely available suite of programs that allow UNIX-based machines to provide file, print, authentication, and network browsing services to Microsoft Windows machines. Many consider Samba to be one of the pre-eminent open source applications. Come find out why. Ho'ala - Free webmail with a statement! Signup today - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Re: Configuring Router
I dont know if anyone here on a RR cable modem has ever had their packet sampled by RR. They check how much traffic your receiving and when they figure your setting up a server at home they do two things: 1. Contact you for an explaination. The fact your downloading a lot of graphics files doesnt cut it anymore because they know... 2. Cutdown your bandwidth to a miserable point where you have to discontinue running a server. I know this from experience with just trying to setup a W2K Adv FTP server for practice only. 3. Cutoff your account completely and put you on a list of violators. You will have to use your wifes name and new address before you can reconnect to RR. This news came from a FLEX guy. On Wednesday 24 July 2002 09:49, you wrote: Message: 1 From: Dan George [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting. So you can actually run a server at home without being detected by RR. Would like to know more details on that one. The USB-USB networking is available in the lastest 2.4 kernel (2.4.18). You need to build a new kernel with the feature in by selecting experimental in 'Code Maturity Options' from make menuconfig. This will make 'USB-USB Networking cable device support' appear in the USB section. Your USB port then becomes usable as /dev/eth1. Of course, this by itself doesn't give you firewalling/masquerading capability that makes your internal LAN undetectable by RR. But it does give you 2 network ports (one internal one external). Then it's a matter of installing iptables and using MonMotha's scripts to do masquerading. See: http://www.mplug.org/phpwiki/index.php/MonMothaReferenceGuide Tim Burgess ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Configuring Router
Ben Maybe you could give me some pointers on how to configure a server on one unit, a workstation on the other with Linksys router and server configured. Dan On Monday 22 July 2002 22:34, you wrote: Dan, I have both I use the computer as a router and firewall for my connection ot the internet, and a hub and wireless router on the inside for parts of my LAN connection to the computer router. Pros and Cons of using the computer as a router con: I need an extra box and associated $$ to do it... (although by recycling old hardware, you can probably save a lot of $$) pro: I get to use the MonMotha firewall, ssh and other goodies on my router. Only one IP address on outside interface Firewall box is separate from the rest of the LAN Cheers, Ben ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Configuring Router
Dont worry Cody but I dont have a free Linksys to give away, yet. Once I obtain that Cisco 550 I have been trying to get back, then maybe I will swing you a deal. On Tuesday 23 July 2002 09:51 am, you wrote: I hope there isn't any Road Runner informants listening. ^_^ I have a netgear RT314. It is a 4 port gateway router. http://www.arstechnica.com/reviews/01q2/netgear/rt314-1.html I can SSH into my Linux machine and telnet back into the router. I can check logs on the router, spoof a mac on the lan, forward ports, set rules, watch traffic, and blah blah. It's fairly cheap ($90-$115) and you can do quite a bit with it. CON: It's manual is big and I don't want to spend my time learning advanced command line functions for a home gateway router. I think I would be allot happier with a free Linux router. Cody -Original Message- From: Dan George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 8:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] Configuring Router How many use RR and have a router (Linksys) or do you use a computer as a router? What are the pros and cons. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Linux Professional Institute offers free certification testing at LinuxWorld Expo
Nice but many of us cant afford the money to fly to San Fran from Hawaii. On Tuesday 23 July 2002 09:59 am, you wrote: The Linux Professional Institute (LPI), (www.lpi.org), the premier professional certification program for the Linux community, is offering free LPI certification testing at Linuxworld Conference Expo, August 13-15, Moscone Conference Center, San Francisco. Offered to all conference attendees in Room #120 at 10:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m., on Tuesday, August 13, Wednesday, August 14 and Thursday, August 15; candidates must pre-register by clicking www.lpi.org/register.html to receive a LPI registration number before testing on-site. Because there will be hundreds of potential certifiable candidates at the conference, we recognize this is the perfect opportunity to get the word out that a healthy certified body of Linux professionals clearly supports integration of the platform within the enterprise, says LPI's Board Chairman Evan Leibovitch. We have partnered with the Linuxworld organizers for the first time to offer this free testing as a way to bolster our professionalism and increase certified expertise in the Linux community. http://linuxpr.com/releases/4957.html ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Configuring Router
Maybe you could clue us in on how to set that up. On Tuesday 23 July 2002 10:00 am, you wrote: I use a computer as my router :) I think various other people probably know why :) Basically, there's a lot of stuff I can do with a linux box I just can't do on a cheap linksys router. Heck, there's stuff I can do with a Linux box that I can't do with an expensive Cisco... --MonMotha Dan George wrote: How many use RR and have a router (Linksys) or do you use a computer as a router? What are the pros and cons. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] Configuring Router
How many use RR and have a router (Linksys) or do you use a computer as a router? What are the pros and cons.
Re: [luau] Going Rate for certs:
I will get back to you on that. What classes you were looking at were the ones originally conceived just about six months ago. We are working on getting an official RHCE program at CompUSA. I will forward your email to the ones responsible for setting up these programs. Its like I said before, the more people that show an interest and sign up with no obligation at this point, will create and dictate what CompUSA will do by setting up the testing and in some cases include the test in a package deal. I took the Linux + class, which was taught by Joe Bransfield, and took the Linux + test and passed with flying colors. On the other hand many people wanted the LC test to be included which is a totally different certification process. I recommend getting as many people together and having them send me emails in regards to their interest in RHCE or LC certification classes. I will get this done with enough support. CompUSA has a greater infrustructure to do this than any other entity on the island. And they will when enough interest is presented. I was told this by the director of training Mark Sullivan himself. Lets team up and get this done. I want my RHCE as well. Dan On Saturday 20 July 2002 21:10, you wrote: Hey all, I have been doing some checking around town (oahu) in the last couple of days for *nix / linux / RH certs, and have found that the going rate is around $1000 - $1500 just for the class, not even including the test! I am aware that most of these classes are business oriented, and a business would of course be able to put out these resources. However, my situation is entirely different. I was just wondering if anybody knew of any cheaper alternatives that someone in my position ( I won't bore you all with the details, suffice it to say financially, as well as spelling bee :) challenged, and financial aid is a long shot at best, could turn to. Rest assured, my pursuit of knowledge will not be limited by a piece of paper, but that piece of paper often helps a great deal. Thanks, karibdis Scott Scheurman Ps- (linuxdan from Comp USA: $1,595 ea. for: linux plus Unix fundamentals lvl 1/2 Unix Sys Admin Unix utilities tools What type of cert would you get from these classes, how could you apply it to real world practice, And please justify spending $1600 for a piece of paper. ( Not trying to put you on the spot or anything, but I would value your input and response, thanks. ) ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Sony VAIO PCG-FX220 Laptop
Cody I use the PCG-FX560 and all I have to do is halt the system then add the NIC card then reboot and all is well. When you reboot the system the hardware is detected. But there may be an easier way but I havent tried it. I have a Netgear A411 card and it gave me problems with 7.1 so I now use 7.3 on my laptop without a hitch. On Saturday 20 July 2002 12:31, you wrote: Can anyone tell me how to add my network card automatically in Redhat 7.2. Redhat detected the card fine on install but I have removed it. Is there anyway to detect it again. When I add a card in the network control panel, neat I am prompted to fill in all the settings for the card. I do not know all the settings for the card, so it did not work. The card is an Intel EtherExpress Pro 100. I am hoping there is a smooth way to make the system detect the NIC and fill in the settings. Thanks in advance, Cody ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Techs available
On Thursday 18 July 2002 23:11, you wrote: On Thursday 18 July 2002 18:23, you wrote: I have some techs that may be available to help with the hardware. I will talked to them tomarrow. The minimal experience is 3years with HP, Compaq, Apple (of course A+ on all ) and HP printer, Toshiba,HP and Compaq laptops. I also have one master tech MCP. Two Cisco certified also hardware techs and myself. I have done several hundred installs and configurations using 7.1,7.2 and 7.3. Ive taken Linux LC classes. Planning on RHCE. But anything I can do to help this weekend starting Friday afternoon, I can help. Dan This could be really good. We have several donated HP printers, a few are very, very nice and very high end. I haven't tested them yet, but a skilled tech would be of help. scott ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau The printer tech, Tony, I will ask this weekend, when he can donate his time on this. Tony has about 11-14 HP Printer certifications. Once I confirm with him, either he or I will apply with the time available.
Re: [luau] Recording of Linux for Schools online meeting
Im able to get connections with major manufacturers and price any part available on the market. Usually cost is about 25-50% of retail. If I have part numbers and manufacturer names to go on, I can research and get the cheapest price available from multiple vendors. Just give me a list and I will check for you. I just purchased 12 slot 1 P3 boards for $45 each and yes they are brand new. Also P3 500 chips for $28. So you can see that a P3-500 is sufficient to run Linux. Monitors or Cases I cant get for less than $65 each. NIC cards $18-$28 depending on manufacturer. I have plenty of 20 gig hdds that could be used in a Raid setup. I may be able to get 120g hdds (WD) 7200 IDE for $88. Still checking on that and about my source. Monitors are too hard to handle and I cant get less than $89 so it wasnt worth it. Cases are a pain too. Some people get really picky about cosmetics I gave up on the case which is $65. On Friday 19 July 2002 12:56, you wrote: On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Warren Togami wrote: http://www.mplug.org/archive/2002/mplug_aim1.html This is a recording of Thursday's online AIM meeting where we discussed our Hawaii Linux for Schools project. Jimen Ching will post a summary of the meeting sometime Friday. Thanks Warren. Sorry for the delay in posting the notes for the AIM meeting. Anyway, here it is. I will put this information on the MPLUG Wiki tonight. AIM meeting notes: The main topic of the meeting was the selection of a network interface card (NIC) for the thin clients. The 3c905 came highly recommended. But we did not know which EPROM will function in the network boot ROM socket. If anyone has information about this, please respond. A part number for the EPROM would probably help. If anyone have other recommendations for a good NIC, feel free to let us know. The following requirements were agreed upon: 1. PCI bus based 2. 100BaseT minimum (GigE will probably be considered) 3. Must have network boot ROM socket If possible, please provide the card name, manufacturer (i.e. 3COM, etc), price range, retailer URL or address, part number for the EPROM (if known), and comment about its reliability (i.e. whether you recommend it or avoid at all costs). Since we plan to hook up a bunch (at least 5) thin clients to each server, we will be buying these by the dozen. The schools might have the front the money, so try to find good qualify, but cheap NICs. A Wiki page was created for the LTSP project. I will be updating this webpage with information about the LTSP project as it progresses. I have a few leads on other organizations that are also accepting computer donations. I will place these information on the website instead of emailing it to the list. I phoned Juliet Begley of the DOE's Computer Recycling Program (http://www.k12.hi.us/~crecycle/) concerning possible NIC hardware. It turns out they only accept complete systems and deliver them to school as soon as possible. So they do not store donated computers. I will put everything I learned about them on the LTSP Wiki. Warren, if this is not the group you wanted me to contact, let me know. I will also send another email asking for volunteer information. So keep an eye open for that. --jc
Re: [luau] Recording of Linux for Schools online meeting
Brian I dont live too far away from you and I am a parts purchaser and distributor for a local retail computer store. I can meet downtown with some of you and go over what we can do for the group. I dont know your schedule but Im off weekends and some afternoons. We can meet at Starbucks downtown with some other members but I cant go into detail here for good reason. But I feel strongly in supporting the open source movement. Dan On Friday 19 July 2002 11:14, you wrote: Aloha MonMotha, Are you looking for the actual nic's or just the boot Rom's? I have a distribution source I work with that sells items usally 10% lower that CompUSA and I can get the items in 2-3 days. I would be willing to help out the LTSP project with getting items at cost price, if you are all intrested. Also, I am willing to help out with build/install of hardware and networks for the project. Brian Brian Low SecurityX 1515 Nuuanu Ave. #555 Honolulu, HI 96817 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (808) 371-3571 Check out the Ultimate BBQ at http://www.geocites.com/techguyshi/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MonMotha Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 9:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Recording of Linux for Schools online meeting I checked with the comp store. Unfortunately they were sold out, but I told them to see if they could find you a deal on 15-100 pack of the 3c905 NICs to be dropshipped. I'll email you if they find anything in the $10-25 per unit pricerange. --MonMotha ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] Parts
Eric This is Dan from CompUSA in Honolulu. I have a local Linux group interested in purchasing parts for the local linux project. The parts are not available here but I would like you to either email me directly or communicate with the group on part list that they have and what we need for the local project. There are other Linux groups around the country and could be a large account for you. Sincerely Dan George
Re: [luau] Please Help
On Thursday 18 July 2002 01:37, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Warren Togami [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LUAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:15 AM Subject: [luau] Please Help 1) I need more people to help at Friday's InstallFest at the University. I think there are more new people coming than usual, so we could really use perhaps additoinal 2-3 knowledgable Linux people to help assist. Currently there are 6 people signed up for Friday's InstallFest. Please let me know if you can help at that session. This will become a disaster without your help. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau Warren Why time Friday is this going on?
[luau] Techs available
I have some techs that may be available to help with the hardware. I will talked to them tomarrow. The minimal experience is 3years with HP, Compaq, Apple (of course A+ on all ) and HP printer, Toshiba,HP and Compaq laptops. I also have one master tech MCP. Two Cisco certified also hardware techs and myself. I have done several hundred installs and configurations using 7.1,7.2 and 7.3. Ive taken Linux LC classes. Planning on RHCE. But anything I can do to help this weekend starting Friday afternoon, I can help. Dan
Re: [luau] Requirements of Linux for Schools Projects
On Thursday 18 July 2002 08:32, you wrote: Warren- What is RHN? ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau RHN -Red Hat Network. Redhats own team of techs and network administrators who give support to the Redhat clients. When you purchase a Redhat product like the home version and register you get 30 days of free support or if you do the professional version you get 60 days. After that they charge in order to support the Redhat project.
Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX
MON 4:30am Im at work so I hope Im not still hitting the keys at that time because that means Id be unemployed. But its the 20 years working on all these different OS's and hardware that have kept me going. I just want to get my RHCE one way or the other. I just hope 8.0 (RH) doesnt come out before then. On Tuesday 16 July 2002 21:51, you wrote: JUST DO IT! Install every operating system you can get your hands on, on any old hardware you can find, late at night after your wife and kids go to sleep. You know you are really into it when you realize it is 4:30am and you are still playing. I like to know how you can do that MON, let me in on your secret. Ive been trying to get geek minded here about learning Linux like I know Windows and Netware but with two kids 8 and 12 (+nagging wife) and full time job, all I was able to do is a basic Linux class and stolen time after 9pm learning 7.1 desktop and 7.3 laptop. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Sharp Zaurus sl5000d
Id like to get my hands on the software for my Jornado 568 64meg also has ARM 206 added 128 compact flash but has Pocket PC. $275 with USB and adapter isnt a bad price. Some PDAs like the Sony Clie have a flimsy USB cradle and adapter. Jornado is the beefiest PDA next to the Compaq 64meg IPAQ. More features also. On Tuesday 16 July 2002 21:55, you wrote: I got my hand on a zaurus from a friend today, it's running Linux with QT, pretty good PDA, too bad the sync software that came with the unit is windows based, I got to download the linux hot sync program, but too lazy to recompile the kernel for usb-ppp support. There are some software out there for it, free sdk, gcc cross compiler and some pre-compiled binaries. He's willing to sell me the unit for $275, what do you guys think? Oh, it also has 32mb SD memory added on, the unit based on ARM 206Mhz, can do mpeg-1 and mp3, 64k TFT color screen, take CompactFlash and SD. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Sharp Zaurus sl5000d
On Wednesday 17 July 2002 20:53, you wrote: Dan George wrote: Id like to get my hands on the software for my Jornado 568 64meg also has ARM 206 added 128 compact flash but has Pocket PC. $275 with USB and adapter isnt a bad price. Some PDAs like the Sony Clie have a flimsy USB cradle and adapter. Jornado is the beefiest PDA next to the Compaq 64meg IPAQ. More features also. If you want to run linux on it (instead of WinCE), remember that the Jornada doesn't have full linux support (last I checked no touchscreen, and other things). http://handhelds.org might have info on that now that HP and Compaq have merged (supposedly they do plan to finish the Jornada port even though it's being discontinued). On the upside, it does have a keyboard :) --MonMotha ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau It does have a touchscreen and Linux support for the 568 but HP just doesnt want to support it.
Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX
MonMotha wrote: al plant wrote: Hi Mon, You might try Solaris 8 ( It is given away free.) or what about FreeBSD I have got that to run on all kinds of boxes. I use FreeBSD 4.5 which is stable. I don't think Solaris 8 will run on it (and I thought it was only free for x86?). Even if it would, it would be hellishly slow (only a 40MHz proc after all). I personally don't like FreeBSD, but I'm OK with the other BSDs. Anyway, it turns out that the 2.1GB HDD is physically bad (it does sound like an angle grinder after all...), so I'll have to put the old 400MB one back in for now, and I want to keep RH5.2 on it. Anyway, RH should at least run better with 52MB of RAM instead of 16. --MonMotha ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau When your talking about Solaris 8 or FreeBSD 4.5, what is the real practical purpose of learning to use those when they are so outdated? It must just be a hobby and not for learning to use for business.
Re: [luau] SparcStation IPX
MonMotha wrote: Dan George wrote: MonMotha wrote: al plant wrote: Hi Mon, You might try Solaris 8 ( It is given away free.) or what about FreeBSD I have got that to run on all kinds of boxes. I use FreeBSD 4.5 which is stable. I don't think Solaris 8 will run on it (and I thought it was only free for x86?). Even if it would, it would be hellishly slow (only a 40MHz proc after all). I personally don't like FreeBSD, but I'm OK with the other BSDs. Anyway, it turns out that the 2.1GB HDD is physically bad (it does sound like an angle grinder after all...), so I'll have to put the old 400MB one back in for now, and I want to keep RH5.2 on it. Anyway, RH should at least run better with 52MB of RAM instead of 16. --MonMotha When your talking about Solaris 8 or FreeBSD 4.5, what is the real practical purpose of learning to use those when they are so outdated? It must just be a hobby and not for learning to use for business. Old hardware exists. Old installations exist. There's plenty of people using FreeBSD 4.5 or Solaris 8. They need support; they need people who know how those operating systems work. Besides, do you think I'm doing anythign serious with a SparcStation IPX that currently has no OS on it? :) (yes, it's a hobby, everything I do is a hobby as I have no job) --MonMotha ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau I like to know how you can do that MON, let me in on your secret. Ive been trying to get geek minded here about learning Linux like I know Windows and Netware but with two kids 8 and 12 (+nagging wife) and full time job, all I was able to do is a basic Linux class and stolen time after 9pm learning 7.1 desktop and 7.3 laptop.
Re: [luau] News - Peru President to meet with Gates
Also mentioned how RH was left out of a deal that other distros like SUSE, Caldera and Turbo Linux made with major players like HP, IBM and Compaq. In ComputerWorld mag it mentioned that a tape recording of Bill Gates I will penalize every computer manufacturer that ships with Linux installed was not submissible in court -a judge ordered. On Sunday 14 July 2002 00:48, Warren Togami wrote: http://news.com.com/2100-1001-943635.html?tag=fd_top Peru's President Alejandro Toledo will travel to Seattle this weekend for talks with Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates during which he will sign accords to support his Huascaran Internet-for-schools project. (continued in article) He will sign accords with Bill Gates. This sounds too much like signing of a pact with the leader of a powerful country. (Imperial March plays quietly in the background. I wonder if LucasArts can sue.) Meanwhile, let's see what happens to Peru Congress legislation that would mandate Open Software for government use. Peruvian Congressman vs. Microsoft FUD http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/06/1739244mode=threadtid=109 Complete Background of this Peru congress bill http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-20-006-26-IN-LF-PB ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Red Hat vs. Mandrake vs. SuSE
Ray Strode wrote: P4-1.6 to P4-2.0 and DDR RAM for $165 for $14. They meant $114 but due to a typo, they had to sell at that price and a couple techs bought it. A while back Amazon.com had gigabytes of memory for sale for like 12 bucks I think. This was back when a gigabyte of memory was supposed to be around a grand. I ordered a bunch, but they cancelled my order when they found out the mistake :-) --Ray ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau Looks like my last email message except that the techs who got the boards and memory for that price, got it for that price. As long as you paid for it on that Saturday you got it as per the tech that got that deal. I dont work weekends so I didnt get that deal when I came in on Wednesday. That was the only weekend I wished I worked. Dan
RE: [luau] Re: RHCE certification
Is that a night class? I know if it gets cancelled and you know some of the guys who want to take those courses, I know we are rounding up more people from HCC, HU and Heald who got dumped. We have 9 students so far and if we add another three it will fly. Also if you can get 5 people in, I can talk to Mike to see if you can get in for free. The problem is the limited number spreading out to 3 institutions. I can say Ive learned quite a bit in the Linux + class being taught by Joe Bransfield and almost ready for the LC1 test. Im havent used Linux/Unix for 3 years because Ive been doing the MCSE and Cisco routine. But if we hang together we all might have a chance in getting our RHCE. I know Joe can also get SOME people who complete the courses, help in obtaining their DODs. Hes with the Navy and also teaches on base. He told me it would be a cinch to get my DODs once I complete the three Linux courses and pass the test. I would hope others here would also like to pursue something similar and that we could help each other get through this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of T. David Burns Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Re: RHCE certification At 06:21 PM 7/9/2002 -1000, you wrote: David How many Cisco or MCSE classes were dumped? NOt sure, I only know about the linux classes because I tried to take them got cancelled. I also took a w2k admin course at kcc, there were 8 students. I am currently signed up for a linux course at HCC that starts next Thursday, hope it flies. It would be nice to set up a sort of apprenticeship thing, where people actually using linux mentored newbies, but it would be a security problem at most shops. I could do it in my lab, but unfortunately I am also a newbie. Anyone want to volunteer to hang around my lab with me and show me the fine points of linux? I have 3-5 stray old wintel machines we could install linux on for fun. Dave ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] MPLUG meeting tomorrow?
I too would like to sit in class Warren. I would even fork out for dinner also. Dan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of weiguo SunSent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 1:50 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [luau] MPLUG meeting tomorrow? Warren, I would like to sit in the newbi class. Thanks. Weiguo From: Warren Togami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] MPLUG meeting tomorrow? Date: 10 Jul 2002 08:35:16 -1000 On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 06:28, Joel wrote: Is there going to be an MPLUG meeting tomorrow evening? --Joel Sorry that date fell through for me. There will be a Linux newbie session on Tuesday night at 6pm, and InstallFest on Friday both at UH Bilger 319. I will make a formal announcement later today. As for Thursday of this week, around 6:30pm I will be tutoring Linux basics at UH and we can fit two more people. First two people that mail me directly I will send the location (can't fit many people in that tiny office.) ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] a generic system
Charles, I can get you a P3-500 -133 Bus with two or three 20 gig hdds and 256 meg Ram upgradeable to 1GB. ATI-16 or 32 meg video 3-D card. I can also give you a spare P3-500 slot 1 processor in case you wanted to upgrade to a dual processor MLB with Raid. I have a similar system for 3 years and paid 3200 brand new then. This system also has a new DVD drive and I can probably throw in a CDRW as well. I run 7.1 with apache and VB7 .NET programming without a hitch. Ive never had this model IWILL MLB ever fail. I had a P2-400 slot1 that I gave to my sister-in-law with 256 meg ram and a 40 gig hdd. It runs faster than a P-4 1.6 Emachine that her roomate has. She prefers to play game off of it with XP. But its dual bootable with 7.2. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lockhart, Charles Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 7:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] a generic system I'm looking for a P3 box that would be considered as generic of vanilla as possible, preferably something I could buy locally, and perferably under or around $600. I need something that I can use as sort of a baseline against more specialized or custom systems and various software/programming issues I have. Can anyone recommend a box and a place to buy it from? Thanks in advance, -Charles ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] a generic system
Yes but dual P3-500s run faster and better than 1 P3-1ghz CPU and cheaper. You can get a dual P3-500 MLB with SCSI and RAID for $99 from Personal Touch or Byte. The graphics card and sound card around $80. Two 256 SDRAM for $55 (CompUSA) I would sell the P3-500 Slot 1 for $50 with heatsink and fan. You could run it as a single processor until you find a second P3-500 slot 1. Im tempted to buy that dual MLB myself but I love my IWILL MLB which never gave me any problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Belford Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 5:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] a generic system I would go to newgg.com and buy the black evercase with a 300w ps for 42, asus's tusi-m mboard for 68, a p3 for $122, 256mb ram for 50, cd and floppy for 40, and a maxtor drive for whatever size you want. With shipping you will spend less than $500 and you never leave your house. The board has integrated nic and video and has run redhat 7.2 no problem. I have a test register that dual boots with linux and win98. I built it to test monmotha's boot image for my POS environment, but it got deployed before I got to it. I am building 5 of these the next few days along with a bunch of other boxes. I hope this helps some. scott ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
RE: [luau] Red Hat vs. Mandrake vs. SuSE
I know that if you come in to CompUSA you will notice more people follow the ads not really trying to get the latest gadgets that come out. They may look hard and calculate the cost then head over to the sale items. Most of the time the small to medium sized business people get the emachines. They dont buy a good backup program like Veritas and then come in screaming less than six months later because they didnt buy extended warranty for the three years or lost all their customer data. Some of them are even foolish enough to try and run XP for a business PC or the IMAC (now EMAC). It drives me crazy that they dont realize that you get what you pay for. Id rather keep my P3-500, which hasnt failed in three years, than go out and buy the latest PC. Intel came out with a MLB, CPU and DDR (256) for $179. They threw in a RAID board if you bought the CPU P4-1.6 to P4-2.0 and DDR RAM for $165 for $14. They meant $114 but due to a typo, they had to sell at that price and a couple techs bought it. I wish I could have had that deal. AMD is coming out with special soon. The only thing I didnt like about the board was that besides the RAID, Onboard sound and video it didnt have onboard SCSI. I prefer a board with just onboard SCSI and maybe RAID not sound or video. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of W. Wayne Liauh Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] Red Hat vs. Mandrake vs. SuSE Presumably, you'd have one person deciding what hardware to have on all machines, not a bunch of people running out to CompUSA and plugging in every new gadget that comes out. Exactly. In order to have a successful Linux revolution, you must play dictatorship on the hardware selection. Most businesses buy their computers from Dell. For business Linux desktops, the mini PC that I mentioned in an earlier post http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/pipermail/luau/2002-July/009085.html can be a very good starting point (for being very quite and compact). On the Linux distros of Red Hat vs. Mandrake vs. SuSE, since XFree86 4.2.0 has improved so much, hardware is much less of an issue. The key issues are the packages being included (why Mandrake is better than Red Hat for desktop use), and how openly and attentively the distro is being beta-tested (why Mandrake is now better than SuSE). ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Re: RHCE certification
David How many Cisco or MCSE classes were dumped? I there any figures in numbers or contacts for those who were dumped and wish to take the classes elsewhere? Its feaseable to bring several small groups together to fill a class at one location. I know Michael Iha at CompUSA in Honolulu is willing to set this up for those who were looking to take those classes and were dumped. Ive taken a Linux class myself there and it has prepared me to take the LC exam. If we get enough people interested from around the State rather than small groups registering at multiple locations, we could ultimately get something going here. Everyone interested in getting the opportunity and taking classes email me or Michael Iha, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike is very flexible. They have a VUE testing center there. I like the classes because they are very informative and go beyond the scope of the class lots of times with practical experience coming from some of the instructors like Joe Bransfield. - Original Message - From: Dean Fujioka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [luau] Re: RHCE certification A class at HPU on computer security and another on unix administration were also both cancelled due to low enrollment :( T. David Burns wrote: At 12:08 PM 7/7/2002 -1000, you wrote: I can hook you up with Joe Bransfield who is also trying to get RHCE programs here in Hawaii. Ive been trying to help him with getting interested people in taking Linux classes here on Oahu. I am interested in classes, though the whole RHCE deal may be too much for me. Please keep the list updated on the status. I'm not sure if there is a lack of demand or a lack of marketing, but two linux courses scheduled for May (one at HCC, one at KCC) were both cancelled for lack of students. Dave ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Mouse and touchpad on laptop
Dean I will try that. I was getting into Perl and someone convinced me to try PHP and I would never go back to Perl. Any suggestions on the differences between the two? - Original Message - From: Dean Fujioka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [luau] Mouse and touchpad on laptop Dan George wrote: vi editor Try pico -w... you might like it better than vi (the -w is for wide, so it doesn't trunkate your files) also try mc -d (midnight commander) for a file browsing wonder on the terminal side (I forget what the -d switch is for... anyone??) dean ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Review - Excellent Value Laptop for Linux
If anyone need the hardware configured to their specifications we can help give you the opportunity to select what you want in your system which is equivalent to alot of prebuilds out there. Dan - Original Message - From: Warren Togami [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LUAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:19 AM Subject: [luau] Review - Excellent Value Laptop for Linux http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/~warren/presario/presario.php Hey folks, At that URL is my review of the Compaq Presario 722US laptop computer that will soon be posted to AMDMB.com. In my testing I have found this to be an excellent priced laptop with tons of features that work nearly perfectly in Linux after some tweaking. Here are some of its better features: * 1.1GHz AMD Duron processor with SSE instructions * 256MB PC100 SDRAM * 14.1 TFT screen * 56k Linux compatible win-modem and 10/100 ethernet * 20GB hard drive * Removable DVD and 4x4x16 CD/RW optical combo drive * 1.44MB Floppy drive * Excellent integrated laptop speakers All for only $1,259 after mail-in rebate at the local Office Depot. (No I don't own Office Depot or HP/Compaq stock, though I do own AMD stock. Bad Wall Street... Ouch!) Kimberly (member of this list) bought this laptop and let me compare it to my personal Sony Vaio FXA series Athlon laptop. I am blown away by how much better it is than my considerably more expensive laptop. =( The both local CompUSA's have a slightly slower 1GHz Duron with DVD-only optical drive (all else the same) for only $999. Either of these are awesome value Linux laptops. Office Depot also has the 725US model with the fastest Mobile Athlon XP processor in stock, all other parts identical to the 722US at $1,559. If anyone buys one, let me know and I'll help you configure it. It may take kernel patching experimentation to get ACPI working for better battery life, but I will help you to do this. Anyway, please read my review and let me know what you think! Thanks, Warren Togami [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Re: RHCE certification
Will do - Original Message - From: T. David Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [luau] Re: RHCE certification At 12:08 PM 7/7/2002 -1000, you wrote: I can hook you up with Joe Bransfield who is also trying to get RHCE programs here in Hawaii. Ive been trying to help him with getting interested people in taking Linux classes here on Oahu. I am interested in classes, though the whole RHCE deal may be too much for me. Please keep the list updated on the status. I'm not sure if there is a lack of demand or a lack of marketing, but two linux courses scheduled for May (one at HCC, one at KCC) were both cancelled for lack of students. Dave ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Codeweavers Crossover plugin
I downloaded Codeweavers and just started learning how to use it. Robert Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] will probably answer those questions for you. - Original Message - From: MonMotha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LUAU Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 9:17 PM Subject: [luau] Codeweavers Crossover plugin This is mostly addressed to Warren, though anyone with experience using the Crossover plugins can respond of course :) I'm curious as to whether this can be made to work for me. Since I'm having trouble finding installation procedures, I'm not sure if it is compatible with distributions other than those listed. I run a homebrew distribution loosely based off of an old slackware 7.0 install. Most everything has been upgraded. Of course, slackware doesn't support RPM, APT, or other common packaging formats. Can the crossover plugin be made to work manually with no more than reasonable effor (I don't want to spend more than an hour tinkering if that can be done). Also, I'm guessing crossover office and normal crossover get along fine? Most of what I awnt to do is run my old Office97 stuff (I for the life of me cannot find a word processor that isn't bug laden, slow, or lacking in features/configurability: OpenOffice, StarOffice 5.2, abiword, and StarOffice 6.0 Beta tried), but I also might find it useful to run other stuff. --MonMotha ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
