Re: Fwd: enormous

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Lars Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: |
Lars  "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lars writes: | | Lars You tell me... | | Lars lazy initalization
Lars would perhaps be easier to fint targets for. | | Isn't the 4M
Lars value the size for all code+libraries we use? Are you | sure
Lars that there is so much data allocated? If I understand correctly
Lars | the output of /proc/PID/status, I see | | VmSize: 6004 kB |
Lars VmLck: 0 kB | VmRSS: 3288 kB | VmData: 556 kB | VmStk: 32 kB |
Lars VmExe: 3272 kB | VmLib: 1988 kB | | This means that we allocate
Lars 556k of data, right? We could probably | reduce that, but not by
Lars a huge amount.

Lars No need to think more about this then.

The only problem I see is that this number seems to grow by itself:

When I launch LyX, I get (even after the banner has gone away):

exima: cat /proc/8747/status |grep VmData
VmData:  544 kB

However, returning to it after a few minutes, it becomes

exima: cat /proc/8747/status |grep VmData
VmData:  608 kB

Maybe is it just that VmData is not what I think it is...

JMarc

Re: ANNOUNCE: gBib 0.1.1 released!

[Garst R. Reese]

Allan Rae wrote:
 
 On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Garst R. Reese wrote:
  Recent versions of LyX use Preferences instead of .lyxrc
  How do you set \serverpipe in Preferences?
 
 Preferences-Inputs-Paths-LyXServer_Pipe
 
 just enter the path and file name without a .in or .out extension -- these
 will be added for you, I think. The help message looks a bit confusing.
 
 Allan. (ARRae)
Thanks, I must be going blind
Garst

problems compiling lyx-1.1.6fix1

[blackziggy]

Hi everybody!

Last nigth i was trying to compile lyx-1.1.6fix1 with gcc 2.95 compiler onto
Mandrake 7.1, but there were some errors:
there not found iosfwd, iostream, streambuf, map, iterator, sstream, utility
and more.

And i couldn't found nothing of the files.h listed aboved in my GNU/Linux
sistem.

... i would like to compile the 1.1.6fix1 version to play with the eu.po to
check it, before i submit it to you : )

Thanks

Dooteo

SUN CC 6.0 Update 1 and Purify

[Michael Schmitt]

Hello,

I upgraded to Sun CC 6.0 Update 1 with all the latest patches today. Then I
recompiled the LyX cvs sources (taken from Kayvan's ftp server) with
--with-included-gettext and --with-included-string. I would like to tell you
that with the latest Sun CC and the chosen compile options, things have become
_much_ better. There are just a few problems left which I ask your assistance
for. So there is hope again that I will be able to run Purify before 1.2 is
released.

I managed to find out that the patches given in file "patches.gz" must be
applied. I kindly ask you to have a look at them and, if reasonable, apply them
to the cvs repository. 

In addition, there are a few errors which I have not been able to resolve. A
stripped compile log is given in file "errorlog.gz". Allan, want to take a look
at it??? It is not that terrible any more!

Kind regards, Michael



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 errorlog.gz
 patches.gz

LyX-1.1.6cvs libsigc++

[Allan Rae]

I've updated libsigc++ in the stable branch.  It should be a bit more
cross platform/compiler happy now although I suspect that Sun CC still
won't be able to compile it.

Feel free to test it -- assuming you can get it.

BTW, has anyone else noticed that gettext-0.10.36 has been released?
Should we be updating that in 1.2.0cvs?  (I'm not volunteering BTW)

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: aussie...

[Allan Rae]

On 19 Apr 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote:

 Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[www.no.lyx.org == www.lyx.org ]
 I already did this, takes some time for dns to propagate though.
 (I have it working here now)

Okay I'll just have to wait another day then.

 |  aussie ran:
 |  - some mail stuff (lists etc)
 |
 | give these to Mate as well?

 These are lists closely bound to the operation of CVS etc. It is nicer
 to have full controll over who is subscribed and being able to force
 subscriptions.

Surely Mate could make you list maintainer?

My mailbox is only half full since cvslog stopped arriving ;-)

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: aussie...

[Allan Rae]

On 17 Apr 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote:

 anyhow... no crucial services was run by aussie.

I beg to differ.  WWW gets 1000s of hits a week if the web site is offline
people go away and don't come back.

How about temporarily aliasing www.no.lyx.org as www.lyx.org so that
people will at least get a message saying it's down and www.no.lyx.org is
taking the hits.

 aussie ran:
 - some mail stuff (lists etc)

give these to Mate as well?

 One good thing is that this is an excellent opurtunity to upgrade
 aussie (software and hardware).

What do we need there? (or even what do we have there?)
How much money do you need?  (have we spent all the sponorship money?)

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Long mails

[Allan Rae]

On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Mate Wierdl wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 04:32:45PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:
 
  It would be really nice if we could refrain from posting large mails to
  the list. Not everybody has a cheap high-speed connection to the net all
  the time...

 If there is a need, I can certainly restrict the size of the posts.  Any too
 large post would be bounced back to the poster.  Just tell me what a
 reasonable limit is. 500K comes to mind...  Anything larger can be posted on
 a webpage instead.

I'd be more inclinded to say 50kB.  That way my long posts will still get
through ;-) and most patch submissions also but someone on a modem won't
have to wait any longer than about 10-30 seconds for any given email to
download.

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: problems compiling lyx-1.1.6fix1

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 "blackziggy" == blackziggy  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

blackziggy Hi everybody! Last nigth i was trying to compile
blackziggy lyx-1.1.6fix1 with gcc 2.95 compiler onto Mandrake 7.1,
blackziggy but there were some errors: there not found iosfwd,
blackziggy iostream, streambuf, map, iterator, sstream, utility and
blackziggy more.

Did you install all the gcc related packages? You need one with a name
like gcc-libstdc++ (not sure about the exact name).

JMarc

Re: LyX-1.1.6cvs libsigc++

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 "Allan" == Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Allan BTW, has anyone else noticed that gettext-0.10.36 has been
Allan released? Should we be updating that in 1.2.0cvs? (I'm not
Allan volunteering BTW)

Yes, I saw that. We should probably do the update, since it will fix
some of our problems (OS/2, Makefiles...). Moreover, it has handling
for plural forms (are there places where we need that?).

An alternative is to wait until a 0.10.37 is released. There has been
so much time since 0.10.35 that I suspect many people have been
sending patches lately.

JMarc

mathed63.diff

[Andre Poenitz]

Re: Long mails

[Andre Poenitz]

Re: problems compiling lyx-1.1.6fix1

[Andre Poenitz]

 Last nigth i was trying to compile lyx-1.1.6fix1 with gcc 2.95 compiler onto
 Mandrake 7.1, but there were some errors:
 there not found iosfwd, iostream, streambuf, map, iterator, sstream, utility
 and more.

Are you sure you have g++ and the library installed? What does
./configure say?

Andre'

-- 
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C++-Programmierer gesucht ... Naeheres unter http://mathematik.htwm.de/job

Re: aussie...

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| On 17 Apr 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjnnes wrote:
| 
|  anyhow... no crucial services was run by aussie.
| 
| I beg to differ.  WWW gets 1000s of hits a week if the web site is offline
| people go away and don't come back.
| 
| How about temporarily aliasing www.no.lyx.org as www.lyx.org so that
| people will at least get a message saying it's down and www.no.lyx.org is
| taking the hits.

I already did this, takes some time for dns to propagate though.
(I have it working here now)
 
|  aussie ran:
|  - some mail stuff (lists etc)
| 
| give these to Mate as well?

These are lists closely bound to the operation of CVS etc. It is nicer
to have full controll over who is subscribed and being able to force
subscriptions.
 
|  One good thing is that this is an excellent opurtunity to upgrade
|  aussie (software and hardware).
| 
| What do we need there? (or even what do we have there?)

_I_ need to get physical access to aussie, and see if I can fix it. If
I can fix it I will just put it up again as is(was).

| How much money do you need?  (have we spent all the sponorship
| money?)

At most I will need to buy a new HD, we can afford that.

-- 
Lgb

Re: LyX-1.1.6cvs libsigc++

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| I've updated libsigc++ in the stable branch.  It should be a bit more
| cross platform/compiler happy now although I suspect that Sun CC still
| won't be able to compile it.
| 
| Feel free to test it -- assuming you can get it.
| 
| BTW, has anyone else noticed that gettext-0.10.36 has been released?

Yes, I saw that some days ago.

| Should we be updating that in 1.2.0cvs?  (I'm not volunteering BTW)

yes, we probably should.
 
-- 
Lgb

Menu item Tabular material

[Michael Schmitt]

Hi,

why is the menu item for inserting tables called "Tabular material..."? I
am not a native English speaker/writer but the word "material" sounds a
little bit strange to me. Is this a reasonable phrase?

Michael

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Changing the document class

[Michael Schmitt]

Hi,

when changing the document class in the document dialog, the user is asked
whether he wants to convert paragraph layouts. Unfortunately, after
clicking on the "yes" button, the document dialog does not get back the
focus but is hidden after the main lyx window. This is quite confusing
because you think the dialog has closed already but no changes were
applied to the document. Could somebody fix this problem?

Michael

==
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Re: mathed63.diff

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

yes, please.

-- 
Lgb

FoilTeX and TOC

[Michael Schmitt]

Hello,

once upon time, the person who implemented the support for table of
contents (I don't remember who it was) provided a solution for document
class "Slides/FoilTeX" that added all headings to the internal LyX
TOC. Unfortunately, this nice little feature never found its way into the
cvs. Would it be possible to commit it in the near future? I am missing
it.

Michael

==
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test

[Andre Poenitz]

Just a test, my other two mails from today to the list seem to have lost
their contents.

Andre'

-- 
Andr Pnitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Fwd: enormous

[Andre Poenitz]

 After spending several days in reading Unicode and ICU 
 (oss.software.ibm.com) documentation I think it will will be enough to 
 use a 16bit word. The unicode standard
 defines 21 bit to be used for unicode characters. The UTF-16 encoding 
 uses special encodings 
 to use characters above 0x.

16 Bit operations are much slower than comparable 8- and 32-bit operations
(up to a factor of 5!) on IA32. Since this is probably the most common
platform to run LyX on, this is a point to consider.

Without any checking I'd guess that a large part of LyX's memory
footprint is not due to "real text" but to all kinds of "supporting" data
structure, so I doubt 16 bit would buy us anything.

 Yes, but it will be good enough to be used for the LyX-file format I 
 think.

That's a completely unrelated question.

Andre'

-- 
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C++-Programmierer gesucht ... Naeheres unter http://mathematik.htwm.de/job

List of algorithms and Subfigures are broken

[Michael Schmitt]

Excuse me,

but I think it is not possible to generate dvi files anymore if your
document includes a list of algorithms or subfigures because the
automatic latex header has changed recently.

BTW: When selecting an error box, LyX crashes due to a faulty assertion
(without emergency save!)

Michael

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Medical University of Luebeck  fax:   +49 451 500 3722
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Re: List of algorithms and Subfigures are broken

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 "Michael" == Michael Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Michael BTW: When selecting an error box, LyX crashes due to a faulty
Michael assertion (without emergency save!)

I do not see this here. Could you give more details? Note that this
has already been reported by others, so you are definitely not
dreaming... A backtrace would be nice.

JMarc

Re: what to do...

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Lars I have thought that the templates should not really be a part of
Lars the document proper. the macros are only inserted into the
Lars document when needed, upson save, export etc.

They are part of the document in the sense that it should be possible
to have macros with same name but different meaning in different
documents.

JMarc

Re: List of algorithms and Subfigures are broken

[Michael Schmitt]

On 19 Apr 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

  "Michael" == Michael Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Michael BTW: When selecting an error box, LyX crashes due to a faulty
 Michael assertion (without emergency save!)
 
 I do not see this here. Could you give more details? Note that this
 has already been reported by others, so you are definitely not
 dreaming... A backtrace would be nice.

Very simple (I don't use Redhat BTW): 
Open a new document, insert a list of algorithms, export to dvi, click on
the new error box - crash

Here is the assertion:

lyx: 
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.3/../../../../include/g++-3/std/bastring.cc:126:
 class
basic_stringchar,string_char_traitschar,__default_alloc_templatetrue,0
 
basic_stringchar,string_char_traitschar,__default_alloc_templatetrue,0
::replace(unsigned int, unsigned int, const
basic_stringchar,string_char_traitschar,__default_alloc_templatetrue,0
 , unsigned int = 0, unsigned int =
basic_stringcharT,traits,Allocator::npos): Assertion !(pos2 
len2) is not fulfilled.

Concerning the broken latex header, I added the following lines manually
and everything worked as before:

\usepackage{graphics}
\usepackage{subfigure}
\usepackage{rotating}
\usepackage{algorithm}
\newcommand{\lyxline}[1]{
  {#1 \vspace{1ex} \hrule width \columnwidth \vspace{1ex}}
}

No the big question is: Why have they all been removed from the
standard header???

Michael

Re: Help: I can write past the border of screen!

[Garst R. Reese]

Michael Schmitt wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 have you already noticed that lines are not broken any more on screen if a
 paragraph is larger than one line of screen? LyX always me to simply write
 past the border of the screen. If I enter "return" and remove the line
 break afterwards, the paragraph is displayed correctly.
I have :(
LyX CVS just before it crashed.
I'm working on getting a mirror in California.
Garst

Problem compiling LyX 1.1.6fix1 on RH 7.0 alpha

[Yann MORERE]

Hello the dream team...

I've got problem compiling the 1.1.6fix1 release of lyx

here is the gcc compiler 
[yann@noemi lyx-1.1.6fix1]$ gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/alpha-redhat-linux/2.96/specs
gcc version 2.96 2731 (Red Hat Linux 7.0)

here is the linux box
[yann@noemi lyx-1.1.6fix1]$ uname -a
Linux noemi.univ-valenciennes.fr 2.2.17-4 #1 Mon Oct 23 15:19:13 EDT
2000 alpha unknown
[yann@noemi lyx-1.1.6fix1]$ 

i test 2 configure command

./configure and ./configure --with-included-string


here is the results

make[3]: Entre dans le rpertoire
`/home/yann/temp/lyx-1.1.6fix1/src/mathed'
/bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.
-I../../src -I../../images -I./../ -I../.. -I../.. -I../../boost 
-isystem /usr/X11R6/include  -g -O2 -fno-exceptions -c formula.C
g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src -I../../images -I./../ -I../..
-I../.. -I../../boost -isystem /usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -fno-exceptions
-c formula.C -o formula.o
In file included from ../../src/gettext.h:35,
 from ../../src/insets/lyxinset.h:22,
 from formula.h:26,
 from formula.C:24:
../../src/LString.h:20:2: #error The string header has been included
before LString.h
formula.C:942:2: warning: #warning This is a terrible hack! We should
find a better solution.
formula.C:1067:2: warning: #warning This is a terrible hack! We should
find a better solution.
make[3]: *** [formula.lo] Erreur 1
make[3]: Quitte le rpertoire `/home/yann/temp/lyx-1.1.6fix1/src/mathed'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
make[2]: Quitte le rpertoire `/home/yann/temp/lyx-1.1.6fix1/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive-am] Erreur 2
make[1]: Quitte le rpertoire `/home/yann/temp/lyx-1.1.6fix1/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1


has somebody an answer please.

Yann

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Scully, we've had a brief discussion, but will you
restate the matter we're here to put to rest?
Scully: Yes sir. Four years ago, Section Chief Blevins assigned
me to a project you all know as the x-files. As I am a
medical doctor with a background in hard science, my
job was to provide an analytical perspective on the
work of Special Agent Fox Mulder, whose investigations
into the paranormal were fuelled by a personal belief
that his sister had been abducted by aliens when he was
twelve. I come here today, four years later, to report
on the illegitimacy of Agent Mulder's work. That it is
my scientific opinion, that he became over the course
of these years a victim, a victim of his own false 
hopes and of his belief in the biggest of lies.

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 ---
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Re: Help: I can write past the border of screen!

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Michael Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Hi,
| 
| have you already noticed that lines are not broken any more on screen if a
| paragraph is larger than one line of screen? LyX always me to simply write
| past the border of the screen. If I enter "return" and remove the line
| break afterwards, the paragraph is displayed correctly.

Hmm... my fault I guess... now I only have to find out how this
happend...

-- 
Lgb

Re: Help: I can write past the border of screen!

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

"Garst R. Reese" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Michael Schmitt wrote:
|  
|  Hi,
|  
|  have you already noticed that lines are not broken any more on screen if a
|  paragraph is larger than one line of screen? LyX always me to simply write
|  past the border of the screen. If I enter "return" and remove the line
|  break afterwards, the paragraph is displayed correctly.
| I have :(

| LyX CVS just before it crashed.

before aussie.lyx.org crashed or before ./lyx crashed?

| I'm working on getting a mirror in California.

nice.

-- 
Lgb

Re: Help: I can write past the border of screen!

[Garst R. Reese]

Lars Gullik Bjnnes wrote:
 
 "Garst R. Reese" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 | Michael Schmitt wrote:
 | 
 |  Hi,
 | 
 |  have you already noticed that lines are not broken any more on screen if a
 |  paragraph is larger than one line of screen? LyX always me to simply write
 |  past the border of the screen. If I enter "return" and remove the line
 |  break afterwards, the paragraph is displayed correctly.
 | I have :(
 
 | LyX CVS just before it crashed.
 
 before aussie.lyx.org crashed or before ./lyx crashed?
wherever anoncvs
was.:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/lyx/cvsroot

 | I'm working on getting a mirror in California.
 
 nice.
 
It is looking good. Am I correct in assuming that all they need is
rsync, cvs,
200Mb ro to public, and a daily chron job
rsync -avz baywatch.lyx.org::lyxcvs 
to provide cvs co and update?

Re: Long mails

[Mate Wierdl]

Is this a sample mail from Andre to show us how  long a message he is
willing to tolerate?

Seriously, just send me a note when you guys agreed on some limit.

Mate

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:32:31AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:

eliminating the splash screen

[Allan Rae]

Show it in the workarea when no buffers are open.

Allan. (ARRae)

lyx-devel commit

[Allan Rae]

libsigc++ updated. Now both the main trunk and the lyx_1_1_6 branch are up
to date and equivalent.

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: SUN CC 6.0 Update 1 and Purify

[Allan Rae]

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Michael Schmitt wrote:

 I upgraded to Sun CC 6.0 Update 1 with all the latest patches today. Then I
 recompiled the LyX cvs sources (taken from Kayvan's ftp server) with
 --with-included-gettext and --with-included-string. I would like to tell you
 that with the latest Sun CC and the chosen compile options, things have become
 _much_ better. There are just a few problems left which I ask your assistance
 for. So there is hope again that I will be able to run Purify before 1.2 is
 released.

Yay, we're getting somewhere then.

 I managed to find out that the patches given in file "patches.gz" must
 be applied. I kindly ask you to have a look at them and, if
 reasonable, apply them to the cvs repository.

I had fixed all the #warning stuff that you mention but there is one new
one snuck in -- somebody who committed just after me didn't read my
ChangeLog message and let one through.  I've just fixed that.

The sigc++ changes to the Marshaling in your patch were part of the
libsigc++ update I committed to lyx_1_1_6 yesterday and to the main trunk
this morning.

The other "fix" in object_slot.h is wrong.  Is HAVE_PARTIAL_SPECIALIZATION
set in your src/config.h?  What about SIGC_CXX_PARTIAL_SPEC in
sigc++/sigc++config.h?   Actually if you just send the chunk of #defines
in the #ifdef LIBSIGC_UNIX section of sigc++/sigc++config.h that'd be
quite helpful.  What error did this change "fix"?

I haven't looked at what the public-private changes in lyxparagraph.h are
for or where the using std::signal is for in lyx_main.C.  A context diff
would be easier to read :-)

 In addition, there are a few errors which I have not been able to
 resolve. A stripped compile log is given in file "errorlog.gz". Allan,
 want to take a look at it??? It is not that terrible any more!

Hmmm... a couple of interesting looking ones there.  One looks it its due
to the "fix" you did in object_slot.h

Allan. (ARRae)

Unicode (was Re: enormous)

[John Weiss]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:19:38PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote:
 
 John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 | I thought the point of UTF-8 was that ASCII could be stored in 7-bit
 | values ?
 
 yes, but we do not really want to use utf-8 internally.

Hmm... although it would save memory for those of us working primarily
with langauges that only use Latin-1 ASCII, it does make rendering
trickier.  You'd basically have to convert from utf-8 to full Unicode
on-the-fly, as you displayed.

So, it seems that we're stuck with char (you're using a single
language, one that only needs Latin-1 ASCII) or wchar_t.  Any way to
select one type or the other at run time?  ;)  Didn't think so...

Now, when it comes to *file* *format*, we could certainly support
utf-8 (as well as utf-16 or full UC3).

-- 
John Weiss

"Not through coercion.  Not by force.  But by compassion.  By
affection.  And, a small fish."  -His Holiness, the 14th Dalai Lama 

Re: unicode fonts

[John Weiss]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:29:13PM +0100, John Levon wrote:
 On 17 Apr 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjnnes wrote:
 
  This is planned, except that wchar_t is 32 bit on most os's.
 
 Wouldn't this have an enormous space impact on those of us who don't
 need it ? I thought the point of UTF-8 was that ASCII could be
 stored in 7-bit values ?  
 
 I admit I don't know anything about this sdtuff ;)

I, however, do.  Aside from being a
physicist-turned-computer-programmer, an LaTeXpert, and a former LyX
Devvie, I'm also a hobby-linguist.  Human languages fascinate me (gee,
as if you couldn't tell from my translation guide...), from grammar to
orthography.

This is why, while in my local Borders, I decided to pick up a copy of
the Unicode v3.0 standard when I saw it.  I recently got on a Unicode
kick, have been adding Unicode fonts and emacs Unicode support, and am
generally having fun looking at the different writing systems we
humans have invented.

So, I guess I'll officially offer myself as an information source for
Unicode.  If I don't know it, I can always pick up my copy of the
standard and look it up.  I'll keep an eye out for any threads on this
list with "unicode" in the subject line.

And, yes, the intent of UTF-8 was to be able to combine Latin-1 ASCII
text with other characters, without having to resort to making the
entire document wchar_t based.  Oh, and Unicode specifies ways for
mixing LRT and RTL text.  Dekel, are you listening? ;)


-- 
John Weiss

"Not through coercion.  Not by force.  But by compassion.  By
affection.  And, a small fish."  -His Holiness, the 14th Dalai Lama 

Re: Unicode (was Re: enormous)

[Martin Vermeer]

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 On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:19:38PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote:
  
  John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  | I thought the point of UTF-8 was that ASCII could be stored in 7-bit
  | values ?
  
  yes, but we do not really want to use utf-8 internally.
 
 Hmm... although it would save memory for those of us working primarily
 with langauges that only use Latin-1 ASCII, it does make rendering
 trickier.  You'd basically have to convert from utf-8 to full Unicode
 on-the-fly, as you displayed.

How expensive is this really? The correspondence between the two looks
like real simple math, like a ten-liner, where US-ASCII would branch off
at the first, and latin1 at the second branch. Would it take a 
non-negligible time compared to physically rendering the character in X? 
 
 So, it seems that we're stuck with char (you're using a single
 language, one that only needs Latin-1 ASCII) or wchar_t.  Any way to
 select one type or the other at run time?  ;)  Didn't think so...
 
 Now, when it comes to *file* *format*, we could certainly support
 utf-8 (as well as utf-16 or full UC3).
 
 -- 
 John Weiss
 
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 affection.  And, a small fish."  -His Holiness, the 14th Dalai Lama 
 
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sorry

[Mate Wierdl]

For some people, mails might have bounced from the server.  Really sorry
about that; the hard disk Gods have been playing a game here.

Please contact me with including the bounce in the message if things still
not in order:

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Re: what to do...

[Angus Leeming]

On Thursday 19 April 2001 17:22,  Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Lars I have thought that the templates should not really be a part of
 Lars the document proper. the macros are only inserted into the
 Lars document when needed, upson save, export etc.
 
 They are part of the document in the sense that it should be possible
 to have macros with same name but different meaning in different
 documents.

So what you're really looking for is the ability to load macros into the 
document from some Macro-store. Something like the Preferences-Formats GUI 
springs to mind.

Angus

Help: I can write past the border of screen!

[Michael Schmitt]

Hi,

have you already noticed that lines are not broken any more on screen if a
paragraph is larger than one line of screen? LyX always me to simply write
past the border of the screen. If I enter return and remove the line
break afterwards, the paragraph is displayed correctly.

Michael

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Troule wit new Klyx

[Mirosaw Bocian]

Dear Sirs!

Last time I'm installed new distribution of Linux Mandrake 
(7.2) with KDE - version 2.0 and new version of Klyx 
(2.0-1mdk.i586).
I have serious problem with this version - program not 
recognize polish keyboard!
In older version of Klyx and KDE was exist two polish 
keymaps: polish (typewriter) and polish (programmers). When all programs worked 
with polish (programmers) keyboard, Klyx need to toggle keymap to polish 
(typewriter).
In new version KDE exist only one polish keymap - 
programmers. All other programs working properly, but no Klyx. It's no pemitting 
to acquire polish diactric glypslike ± ê æ ñ ¶ ¼ ¿ ó ³ (this letter is 
coding in iso 8859-2) with right alt.
Problem not dissolves editionthe lyxrc file and 
copying polish.kbd file to ~/.klyx/kbd dir.
I dont know what I can to do. Please help me to ressolve 
this problem.
Other problem is as follow: how to acquire a mirror print 
(to post script file or directly to non postscript printer) from my work in 
Klyx. Why is not appropriate option in print dialog box? It is a task fora 
Lyx team programmers - I suppose.

With regards
Miroslaw Bocian
Lublin
Poland

P.S. Sorry for my poor 
english.

Re: Fwd: enormous

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: |
Lars> > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Lars> writes: | | Lars> You tell me... | | Lars> lazy initalization
Lars> would perhaps be easier to fint targets for. | | Isn't the 4M
Lars> value the size for all code+libraries we use? Are you | sure
Lars> that there is so much data allocated? If I understand correctly
Lars> | the output of /proc/PID/status, I see | | VmSize: 6004 kB |
Lars> VmLck: 0 kB | VmRSS: 3288 kB | VmData: 556 kB | VmStk: 32 kB |
Lars> VmExe: 3272 kB | VmLib: 1988 kB | | This means that we allocate
Lars> 556k of data, right? We could probably | reduce that, but not by
Lars> a huge amount.

Lars> No need to think more about this then.

The only problem I see is that this number seems to grow by itself:

When I launch LyX, I get (even after the banner has gone away):

exima: cat /proc/8747/status |grep VmData
VmData:  544 kB

However, returning to it after a few minutes, it becomes

exima: cat /proc/8747/status |grep VmData
VmData:  608 kB

Maybe is it just that VmData is not what I think it is...

JMarc

Re: ANNOUNCE: gBib 0.1.1 released!

[Garst R. Reese]

Allan Rae wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Garst R. Reese wrote:
> > Recent versions of LyX use Preferences instead of .lyxrc
> > How do you set \serverpipe in Preferences?
> 
> Preferences->Inputs->Paths->LyXServer_Pipe
> 
> just enter the path and file name without a .in or .out extension -- these
> will be added for you, I think. The help message looks a bit confusing.
> 
> Allan. (ARRae)
Thanks, I must be going blind
Garst

problems compiling lyx-1.1.6fix1

[blackziggy]

Hi everybody!

Last nigth i was trying to compile lyx-1.1.6fix1 with gcc 2.95 compiler onto
Mandrake 7.1, but there were some errors:
there not found iosfwd, iostream, streambuf, map, iterator, sstream, utility
and more.

And i couldn't found nothing of the files.h listed aboved in my GNU/Linux
sistem.

... i would like to compile the 1.1.6fix1 version to play with the eu.po to
check it, before i submit it to you : )

Thanks

Dooteo

SUN CC 6.0 Update 1 and Purify

[Michael Schmitt]

Hello,

I upgraded to Sun CC 6.0 Update 1 with all the latest patches today. Then I
recompiled the LyX cvs sources (taken from Kayvan's ftp server) with
--with-included-gettext and --with-included-string. I would like to tell you
that with the latest Sun CC and the chosen compile options, things have become
_much_ better. There are just a few problems left which I ask your assistance
for. So there is hope again that I will be able to run Purify before 1.2 is
released.

I managed to find out that the patches given in file "patches.gz" must be
applied. I kindly ask you to have a look at them and, if reasonable, apply them
to the cvs repository. 

In addition, there are a few errors which I have not been able to resolve. A
stripped compile log is given in file "errorlog.gz". Allan, want to take a look
at it??? It is not that terrible any more!

Kind regards, Michael



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 errorlog.gz
 patches.gz

LyX-1.1.6cvs libsigc++

[Allan Rae]

I've updated libsigc++ in the stable branch.  It should be a bit more
cross platform/compiler happy now although I suspect that Sun CC still
won't be able to compile it.

Feel free to test it -- assuming you can get it.

BTW, has anyone else noticed that gettext-0.10.36 has been released?
Should we be updating that in 1.2.0cvs?  (I'm not volunteering BTW)

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: aussie...

[Allan Rae]

On 19 Apr 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote:

> Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[www.no.lyx.org == www.lyx.org ]
> I already did this, takes some time for dns to propagate though.
> (I have it working here now)

Okay I'll just have to wait another day then.

> | > aussie ran:
> | > - some mail stuff (lists etc)
> |
> | give these to Mate as well?
>
> These are lists closely bound to the operation of CVS etc. It is nicer
> to have full controll over who is subscribed and being able to force
> subscriptions.

Surely Mate could make you list maintainer?

My mailbox is only half full since cvslog stopped arriving ;-)

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: aussie...

[Allan Rae]

On 17 Apr 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote:

> anyhow... no crucial services was run by aussie.

I beg to differ.  WWW gets 1000s of hits a week if the web site is offline
people go away and don't come back.

How about temporarily aliasing www.no.lyx.org as www.lyx.org so that
people will at least get a message saying it's down and www.no.lyx.org is
taking the hits.

> aussie ran:
> - some mail stuff (lists etc)

give these to Mate as well?

> One good thing is that this is an excellent opurtunity to upgrade
> aussie (software and hardware).

What do we need there? (or even what do we have there?)
How much money do you need?  (have we spent all the sponorship money?)

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Long mails

[Allan Rae]

On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Mate Wierdl wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 04:32:45PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> >
> > It would be really nice if we could refrain from posting large mails to
> > the list. Not everybody has a cheap high-speed connection to the net all
> > the time...
>
> If there is a need, I can certainly restrict the size of the posts.  Any too
> large post would be bounced back to the poster.  Just tell me what a
> reasonable limit is. 500K comes to mind...  Anything larger can be posted on
> a webpage instead.

I'd be more inclinded to say 50kB.  That way my long posts will still get
through ;-) and most patch submissions also but someone on a modem won't
have to wait any longer than about 10-30 seconds for any given email to
download.

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: problems compiling lyx-1.1.6fix1

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "blackziggy" == blackziggy  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

blackziggy> Hi everybody! Last nigth i was trying to compile
blackziggy> lyx-1.1.6fix1 with gcc 2.95 compiler onto Mandrake 7.1,
blackziggy> but there were some errors: there not found iosfwd,
blackziggy> iostream, streambuf, map, iterator, sstream, utility and
blackziggy> more.

Did you install all the gcc related packages? You need one with a name
like gcc-libstdc++ (not sure about the exact name).

JMarc

Re: LyX-1.1.6cvs libsigc++

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Allan" == Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Allan> BTW, has anyone else noticed that gettext-0.10.36 has been
Allan> released? Should we be updating that in 1.2.0cvs? (I'm not
Allan> volunteering BTW)

Yes, I saw that. We should probably do the update, since it will fix
some of our problems (OS/2, Makefiles...). Moreover, it has handling
for plural forms (are there places where we need that?).

An alternative is to wait until a 0.10.37 is released. There has been
so much time since 0.10.35 that I suspect many people have been
sending patches lately.

JMarc

mathed63.diff

[Andre Poenitz]

Re: Long mails

[Andre Poenitz]

Re: problems compiling lyx-1.1.6fix1

[Andre Poenitz]

> Last nigth i was trying to compile lyx-1.1.6fix1 with gcc 2.95 compiler onto
> Mandrake 7.1, but there were some errors:
> there not found iosfwd, iostream, streambuf, map, iterator, sstream, utility
> and more.

Are you sure you have g++ and the library installed? What does
./configure say?

Andre'

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Re: aussie...

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

| On 17 Apr 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote:
| 
| > anyhow... no crucial services was run by aussie.
| 
| I beg to differ.  WWW gets 1000s of hits a week if the web site is offline
| people go away and don't come back.
| 
| How about temporarily aliasing www.no.lyx.org as www.lyx.org so that
| people will at least get a message saying it's down and www.no.lyx.org is
| taking the hits.

I already did this, takes some time for dns to propagate though.
(I have it working here now)
 
| > aussie ran:
| > - some mail stuff (lists etc)
| 
| give these to Mate as well?

These are lists closely bound to the operation of CVS etc. It is nicer
to have full controll over who is subscribed and being able to force
subscriptions.
 
| > One good thing is that this is an excellent opurtunity to upgrade
| > aussie (software and hardware).
| 
| What do we need there? (or even what do we have there?)

_I_ need to get physical access to aussie, and see if I can fix it. If
I can fix it I will just put it up again as is(was).

| How much money do you need?  (have we spent all the sponorship
| money?)

At most I will need to buy a new HD, we can afford that.

-- 
Lgb

Re: LyX-1.1.6cvs libsigc++

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

| I've updated libsigc++ in the stable branch.  It should be a bit more
| cross platform/compiler happy now although I suspect that Sun CC still
| won't be able to compile it.
| 
| Feel free to test it -- assuming you can get it.
| 
| BTW, has anyone else noticed that gettext-0.10.36 has been released?

Yes, I saw that some days ago.

| Should we be updating that in 1.2.0cvs?  (I'm not volunteering BTW)

yes, we probably should.
 
-- 
Lgb

Menu item "Tabular material"

[Michael Schmitt]

Hi,

why is the menu item for inserting tables called "Tabular material..."? I
am not a native English speaker/writer but the word "material" sounds a
little bit strange to me. Is this a reasonable phrase?

Michael

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Changing the document class

[Michael Schmitt]

Hi,

when changing the document class in the document dialog, the user is asked
whether he wants to convert paragraph layouts. Unfortunately, after
clicking on the "yes" button, the document dialog does not get back the
focus but is hidden after the main lyx window. This is quite confusing
because you think the dialog has closed already but no changes were
applied to the document. Could somebody fix this problem?

Michael

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Re: mathed63.diff

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

yes, please.

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FoilTeX and TOC

[Michael Schmitt]

Hello,

once upon time, the person who implemented the support for table of
contents (I don't remember who it was) provided a solution for document
class "Slides/FoilTeX" that added all headings to the internal LyX
TOC. Unfortunately, this nice little feature never found its way into the
cvs. Would it be possible to commit it in the near future? I am missing
it.

Michael

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test

[Andre Poenitz]

Just a test, my other two mails from today to the list seem to have lost
their contents.

Andre'

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Re: Fwd: enormous

[Andre Poenitz]

> After spending several days in reading Unicode and ICU 
> (oss.software.ibm.com) documentation I think it will will be enough to 
> use a 16bit word. The unicode standard
> defines 21 bit to be used for unicode characters. The UTF-16 encoding 
> uses special encodings 
> to use characters above 0x.

16 Bit operations are much slower than comparable 8- and 32-bit operations
(up to a factor of 5!) on IA32. Since this is probably the most common
platform to run LyX on, this is a point to consider.

Without any checking I'd guess that a large part of LyX's memory
footprint is not due to "real text" but to all kinds of "supporting" data
structure, so I doubt 16 bit would buy us anything.

> Yes, but it will be good enough to be used for the LyX-file format I 
> think.

That's a completely unrelated question.

Andre'

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List of algorithms and Subfigures are broken

[Michael Schmitt]

Excuse me,

but I think it is not possible to generate dvi files anymore if your
document includes a list of algorithms or subfigures because the
automatic latex header has changed recently.

BTW: When selecting an error box, LyX crashes due to a faulty assertion
(without emergency save!)

Michael

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Re: List of algorithms and Subfigures are broken

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Michael> BTW: When selecting an error box, LyX crashes due to a faulty
Michael> assertion (without emergency save!)

I do not see this here. Could you give more details? Note that this
has already been reported by others, so you are definitely not
dreaming... A backtrace would be nice.

JMarc

Re: what to do...

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Lars> I have thought that the templates should not really be a part of
Lars> the document proper. the macros are only inserted into the
Lars> document when needed, upson save, export etc.

They are part of the document in the sense that it should be possible
to have macros with same name but different meaning in different
documents.

JMarc

Re: List of algorithms and Subfigures are broken

[Michael Schmitt]

On 19 Apr 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

> > "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Michael> BTW: When selecting an error box, LyX crashes due to a faulty
> Michael> assertion (without emergency save!)
> 
> I do not see this here. Could you give more details? Note that this
> has already been reported by others, so you are definitely not
> dreaming... A backtrace would be nice.

Very simple (I don't use Redhat BTW): 
Open a new document, insert a list of algorithms, export to dvi, click on
the new error box -> crash

Here is the assertion:

lyx: 
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.3/../../../../include/g++-3/std/bastring.cc:126:
 class
basic_string
> &
basic_string
>::replace(unsigned int, unsigned int, const
basic_string
> &, unsigned int = 0, unsigned int =
basic_string::npos): Assertion !(pos2 >
len2) is not fulfilled.

Concerning the broken latex header, I added the following lines manually
and everything worked as before:

\usepackage{graphics}
\usepackage{subfigure}
\usepackage{rotating}
\usepackage{algorithm}
\newcommand{\lyxline}[1]{
  {#1 \vspace{1ex} \hrule width \columnwidth \vspace{1ex}}
}

No the big question is: Why have they all been removed from the
standard header???

Michael

Re: Help: I can write past the border of screen!

[Garst R. Reese]

Michael Schmitt wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> have you already noticed that lines are not broken any more on screen if a
> paragraph is larger than one line of screen? LyX always me to simply write
> past the border of the screen. If I enter "return" and remove the line
> break afterwards, the paragraph is displayed correctly.
I have :(
LyX CVS just before it crashed.
I'm working on getting a mirror in California.
Garst

Problem compiling LyX 1.1.6fix1 on RH 7.0 alpha

[Yann MORERE]

Hello the dream team...

I've got problem compiling the 1.1.6fix1 release of lyx

here is the gcc compiler 
[yann@noemi lyx-1.1.6fix1]$ gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/alpha-redhat-linux/2.96/specs
gcc version 2.96 2731 (Red Hat Linux 7.0)

here is the linux box
[yann@noemi lyx-1.1.6fix1]$ uname -a
Linux noemi.univ-valenciennes.fr 2.2.17-4 #1 Mon Oct 23 15:19:13 EDT
2000 alpha unknown
[yann@noemi lyx-1.1.6fix1]$ 

i test 2 configure command

./configure and ./configure --with-included-string


here is the results

make[3]: Entre dans le répertoire
`/home/yann/temp/lyx-1.1.6fix1/src/mathed'
/bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.
-I../../src -I../../images -I./../ -I../.. -I../.. -I../../boost 
-isystem /usr/X11R6/include  -g -O2 -fno-exceptions -c formula.C
g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src -I../../images -I./../ -I../..
-I../.. -I../../boost -isystem /usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -fno-exceptions
-c formula.C -o formula.o
In file included from ../../src/gettext.h:35,
 from ../../src/insets/lyxinset.h:22,
 from formula.h:26,
 from formula.C:24:
../../src/LString.h:20:2: #error The  header has been included
before LString.h
formula.C:942:2: warning: #warning This is a terrible hack! We should
find a better solution.
formula.C:1067:2: warning: #warning This is a terrible hack! We should
find a better solution.
make[3]: *** [formula.lo] Erreur 1
make[3]: Quitte le répertoire `/home/yann/temp/lyx-1.1.6fix1/src/mathed'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
make[2]: Quitte le répertoire `/home/yann/temp/lyx-1.1.6fix1/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive-am] Erreur 2
make[1]: Quitte le répertoire `/home/yann/temp/lyx-1.1.6fix1/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1


has somebody an answer please.

Yann

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Scully: Yes sir. Four years ago, Section Chief Blevins assigned
me to a project you all know as the x-files. As I am a
medical doctor with a background in hard science, my
job was to provide an analytical perspective on the
work of Special Agent Fox Mulder, whose investigations
into the paranormal were fuelled by a personal belief
that his sister had been abducted by aliens when he was
twelve. I come here today, four years later, to report
on the illegitimacy of Agent Mulder's work. That it is
my scientific opinion, that he became over the course
of these years a victim, a victim of his own false 
hopes and of his belief in the biggest of lies.

"The X-Files: Gethsemane"

"Y faut liiirrreee, Arlequin, Champion de l'amou" Dany Boon
 ---
(Yann MORERE mailto:mo

Re: Help: I can write past the border of screen!

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

| Hi,
| 
| have you already noticed that lines are not broken any more on screen if a
| paragraph is larger than one line of screen? LyX always me to simply write
| past the border of the screen. If I enter "return" and remove the line
| break afterwards, the paragraph is displayed correctly.

Hmm... my fault I guess... now I only have to find out how this
happend...

-- 
Lgb

Re: Help: I can write past the border of screen!

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

"Garst R. Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

| Michael Schmitt wrote:
| > 
| > Hi,
| > 
| > have you already noticed that lines are not broken any more on screen if a
| > paragraph is larger than one line of screen? LyX always me to simply write
| > past the border of the screen. If I enter "return" and remove the line
| > break afterwards, the paragraph is displayed correctly.
| I have :(

| LyX CVS just before it crashed.

before aussie.lyx.org crashed or before ./lyx crashed?

| I'm working on getting a mirror in California.

nice.

-- 
Lgb

Re: Help: I can write past the border of screen!

[Garst R. Reese]

Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> 
> "Garst R. Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> | Michael Schmitt wrote:
> | >
> | > Hi,
> | >
> | > have you already noticed that lines are not broken any more on screen if a
> | > paragraph is larger than one line of screen? LyX always me to simply write
> | > past the border of the screen. If I enter "return" and remove the line
> | > break afterwards, the paragraph is displayed correctly.
> | I have :(
> 
> | LyX CVS just before it crashed.
> 
> before aussie.lyx.org crashed or before ./lyx crashed?
wherever anoncvs
was.:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/lyx/cvsroot

> | I'm working on getting a mirror in California.
> 
> nice.
> 
It is looking good. Am I correct in assuming that all they need is
rsync, cvs,
200Mb ro to public, and a daily chron job
rsync -avz baywatch.lyx.org::lyxcvs 
to provide cvs co and update?

Re: Long mails

[Mate Wierdl]

Is this a sample mail from Andre to show us how  long a message he is
willing to tolerate?

Seriously, just send me a note when you guys agreed on some limit.

Mate

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:32:31AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:

eliminating the splash screen

[Allan Rae]

Show it in the workarea when no buffers are open.

Allan. (ARRae)

lyx-devel commit

[Allan Rae]

libsigc++ updated. Now both the main trunk and the lyx_1_1_6 branch are up
to date and equivalent.

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: SUN CC 6.0 Update 1 and Purify

[Allan Rae]

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Michael Schmitt wrote:

> I upgraded to Sun CC 6.0 Update 1 with all the latest patches today. Then I
> recompiled the LyX cvs sources (taken from Kayvan's ftp server) with
> --with-included-gettext and --with-included-string. I would like to tell you
> that with the latest Sun CC and the chosen compile options, things have become
> _much_ better. There are just a few problems left which I ask your assistance
> for. So there is hope again that I will be able to run Purify before 1.2 is
> released.

Yay, we're getting somewhere then.

> I managed to find out that the patches given in file "patches.gz" must
> be applied. I kindly ask you to have a look at them and, if
> reasonable, apply them to the cvs repository.

I had fixed all the #warning stuff that you mention but there is one new
one snuck in -- somebody who committed just after me didn't read my
ChangeLog message and let one through.  I've just fixed that.

The sigc++ changes to the Marshaling in your patch were part of the
libsigc++ update I committed to lyx_1_1_6 yesterday and to the main trunk
this morning.

The other "fix" in object_slot.h is wrong.  Is HAVE_PARTIAL_SPECIALIZATION
set in your src/config.h?  What about SIGC_CXX_PARTIAL_SPEC in
sigc++/sigc++config.h?   Actually if you just send the chunk of #defines
in the #ifdef LIBSIGC_UNIX section of sigc++/sigc++config.h that'd be
quite helpful.  What error did this change "fix"?

I haven't looked at what the public->private changes in lyxparagraph.h are
for or where the using std::signal is for in lyx_main.C.  A context diff
would be easier to read :-)

> In addition, there are a few errors which I have not been able to
> resolve. A stripped compile log is given in file "errorlog.gz". Allan,
> want to take a look at it??? It is not that terrible any more!

Hmmm... a couple of interesting looking ones there.  One looks it its due
to the "fix" you did in object_slot.h

Allan. (ARRae)

Unicode (was Re: enormous)

[John Weiss]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:19:38PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote:
> 
> John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> | I thought the point of UTF-8 was that ASCII could be stored in 7-bit
> | values ?
> 
> yes, but we do not really want to use utf-8 internally.

Hmm... although it would save memory for those of us working primarily
with langauges that only use Latin-1 ASCII, it does make rendering
trickier.  You'd basically have to convert from utf-8 to full Unicode
on-the-fly, as you displayed.

So, it seems that we're stuck with char (you're using a single
language, one that only needs Latin-1 ASCII) or wchar_t.  Any way to
select one type or the other at run time?  ;)  Didn't think so...

Now, when it comes to *file* *format*, we could certainly support
utf-8 (as well as utf-16 or full UC3).

-- 
John Weiss

"Not through coercion.  Not by force.  But by compassion.  By
affection.  And, a small fish."  -His Holiness, the 14th Dalai Lama 

Re: unicode fonts

[John Weiss]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:29:13PM +0100, John Levon wrote:
> On 17 Apr 2001, Lars Gullik [iso-8859-1] Bjønnes wrote:
> 
> > This is planned, except that wchar_t is 32 bit on most os's.
> 
> Wouldn't this have an enormous space impact on those of us who don't
> need it ? I thought the point of UTF-8 was that ASCII could be
> stored in 7-bit values ?  
> 
> I admit I don't know anything about this sdtuff ;)

I, however, do.  Aside from being a
physicist-turned-computer-programmer, an LaTeXpert, and a former LyX
Devvie, I'm also a hobby-linguist.  Human languages fascinate me (gee,
as if you couldn't tell from my translation guide...), from grammar to
orthography.

This is why, while in my local Borders, I decided to pick up a copy of
the Unicode v3.0 standard when I saw it.  I recently got on a Unicode
kick, have been adding Unicode fonts and emacs Unicode support, and am
generally having fun looking at the different writing systems we
humans have invented.

So, I guess I'll officially offer myself as an information source for
Unicode.  If I don't know it, I can always pick up my copy of the
standard and look it up.  I'll keep an eye out for any threads on this
list with "unicode" in the subject line.

And, yes, the intent of UTF-8 was to be able to combine Latin-1 ASCII
text with other characters, without having to resort to making the
entire document wchar_t based.  Oh, and Unicode specifies ways for
mixing LRT and RTL text.  Dekel, are you listening? ;)


-- 
John Weiss

"Not through coercion.  Not by force.  But by compassion.  By
affection.  And, a small fish."  -His Holiness, the 14th Dalai Lama 

Re: Unicode (was Re: enormous)

[Martin Vermeer]

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> 
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:19:38PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote:
> > 
> > John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > | I thought the point of UTF-8 was that ASCII could be stored in 7-bit
> > | values ?
> > 
> > yes, but we do not really want to use utf-8 internally.
> 
> Hmm... although it would save memory for those of us working primarily
> with langauges that only use Latin-1 ASCII, it does make rendering
> trickier.  You'd basically have to convert from utf-8 to full Unicode
> on-the-fly, as you displayed.

How expensive is this really? The correspondence between the two looks
like real simple math, like a ten-liner, where US-ASCII would branch off
at the first, and latin1 at the second branch. Would it take a 
non-negligible time compared to physically rendering the character in X? 
 
> So, it seems that we're stuck with char (you're using a single
> language, one that only needs Latin-1 ASCII) or wchar_t.  Any way to
> select one type or the other at run time?  ;)  Didn't think so...
> 
> Now, when it comes to *file* *format*, we could certainly support
> utf-8 (as well as utf-16 or full UC3).
> 
> -- 
> John Weiss
> 
> "Not through coercion.  Not by force.  But by compassion.  By
> affection.  And, a small fish."  -His Holiness, the 14th Dalai Lama 
 
Martin
-- 
Martin Vermeer  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Helsinki University of Technology 
Department of Surveying
P.O. Box 1200, FIN-02015 HUT, Finland
:wq

sorry

[Mate Wierdl]

For some people, mails might have bounced from the server.  Really sorry
about that; the hard disk Gods have been playing a game here.

Please contact me with including the bounce in the message if things still
not in order:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

or 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mate

Re: what to do...

[Angus Leeming]

On Thursday 19 April 2001 17:22,  Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Lars> I have thought that the templates should not really be a part of
> Lars> the document proper. the macros are only inserted into the
> Lars> document when needed, upson save, export etc.
> 
> They are part of the document in the sense that it should be possible
> to have macros with same name but different meaning in different
> documents.

So what you're really looking for is the ability to load macros into the 
document from some Macro-store. Something like the Preferences->Formats GUI 
springs to mind.

Angus

Help: I can write past the border of screen!

[Michael Schmitt]

Hi,

have you already noticed that lines are not broken any more on screen if a
paragraph is larger than one line of screen? LyX always me to simply write
past the border of the screen. If I enter "return" and remove the line
break afterwards, the paragraph is displayed correctly.

Michael

==
Michael Schmittphone: +49 451 500 3725
Institute for Telematics   secretary: +49 451 500 3721
Medical University of Luebeck  fax:   +49 451 500 3722
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D-23538 Luebeck, Germany   WWW:   http://www.itm.mu-luebeck.de
==

Troule wit new Klyx

[Mirosław Bocian]

Dear Sirs!
 
Last time I'm installed new distribution of Linux Mandrake 
(7.2) with KDE - version 2.0 and new version of Klyx 
(2.0-1mdk.i586).
I have serious problem with this version - program not 
recognize polish keyboard!
In older version of Klyx and KDE was exist two polish 
keymaps: polish (typewriter) and polish (programmers). When all programs worked 
with polish (programmers) keyboard, Klyx need to toggle keymap to polish 
(typewriter).
In new version KDE exist only one polish keymap - 
programmers. All other programs working properly, but no Klyx. It's no pemitting 
to acquire polish diactric glyps like ± ê æ ñ ¶ ¼ ¿ ó ³ (this letter is 
coding in iso 8859-2) with right alt.
Problem not dissolves edition the lyxrc file and 
copying polish.kbd file to ~/.klyx/kbd dir.
I dont know what I can to do. Please help me to ressolve 
this problem.
Other problem is as follow: how to acquire a mirror print 
(to post script file or directly to non postscript printer) from my work in 
Klyx. Why is not appropriate option in print dialog box? It is a task for a 
Lyx team programmers - I suppose.
 
With regards
Miroslaw Bocian
Lublin
Poland
 
P.S. Sorry for my poor 
english.