Re: Stop command during compilation

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sun, May 05, 2024 at 03:25:42PM GMT, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

> Apparently, you did it, Scott!

Ha! I have a strong memory of really wanting to do it, but I don't
remember actually doing it :)

Discussion was here:

  
https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=mid=20221120230056.xbznerxk4ui4aql4%40gary
> 
> For what it's worth, the previous timeout was 3 minutes. Note that this is
> per-process, so running LaTeX multiple times could take more than 3 minutes,
> and it would not trigger this message.

Note that the main issue where this comes up is with knitr or something
similar (which runs an R program before getting to LaTeX compilation).

Scott


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Re: Stop command during compilation

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 5 May 2024, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

I have not either. It's a very long timeout. But if you have lots of images 
that need converting, etc, or programs that have to be compiled, then you 
could see it.


Riki,

That makes sense.

Thanks for explaining.

Regards,

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Re: Stop command during compilation

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 5/5/24 13:36, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

On 5/5/24 11:25, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
On Sun, May 05, 2024 at 12:00:06PM GMT, Andreas Plihal via lyx-users 
wrote:

Hi,
  the compilation of lyx files is repeatedly interrupted (apparently at
random). A window "LyX: Stop command?" appears. Then you can either
stop or continue compiling. It is not clear to me when and why this
interruption occurs. Its appearance cannot be controlled by me.
  Please can you help me?

I believe it (should be) at a deterministic time, not random.

And I don't think compilation is actually interrupted, it just feels 
like it is. That is, during the dialog, I believe the code is still 
running.


It is. Which is why, if you leave your computer, you can find this 
dialog AND a completed compilation.



All that said, I personally would be in favor of removing the dialog, 
now that the user can cancel the process at anytime on their own 
(this didn't use to be possible). I think we had a discussion about 
that but I forgot how others felt about it.


I think we decided it was worth having both, though I am not sure. The 
manual cancellation thing doesn't always work. What might be nice 
would be to make the timeout a preference, and then setting it at 0 
would disable it. Obviously too late to do that for 2.4.0.


Actually, on closer inspection, it turns out we did disable this for 2.4.0:

int timeout_ms()
{
    // Starting in 2.4.0, we allow the user to cancel the background
    // process at any time with LFUN_EXPORT_CANCEL, so the timeout dialog
    // is no longer useful.
    // "-1" effectively disables the timeout (it is a special case in
    // SystemcallPrivate::waitWhile()).
    return -1;
}

Apparently, you did it, Scott!

For what it's worth, the previous timeout was 3 minutes. Note that this 
is per-process, so running LaTeX multiple times could take more than 3 
minutes, and it would not trigger this message.


Riki


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Re: Stop command during compilation

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 5/5/24 14:31, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Sun, 5 May 2024, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

There's a timeout for the compilation process in case something goes 
wrong

and it enters an infinite loop. It's a pretty generous time, though I
can't remember what it is, or even where it's set.


Riki,

Well, okay. Guess I never encountered that situation. I've had 
non-printable

characters in bibliographic entries that I didn't catch when copying them
into JabRef or issues with missing TexLive modules, but nothing to ask me
whether I want pdflatex to continue.


I have not either. It's a very long timeout. But if you have lots of 
images that need converting, etc, or programs that have to be compiled, 
then you could see it.


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Re: Stop command during compilation

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 5 May 2024, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:


There's a timeout for the compilation process in case something goes wrong
and it enters an infinite loop. It's a pretty generous time, though I
can't remember what it is, or even where it's set.


Riki,

Well, okay. Guess I never encountered that situation. I've had non-printable
characters in bibliographic entries that I didn't catch when copying them
into JabRef or issues with missing TexLive modules, but nothing to ask me
whether I want pdflatex to continue.

Thanks,

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Re: Stop command during compilation

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 5/5/24 13:42, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Sun, 5 May 2024, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:


the compilation of lyx files is repeatedly interrupted (apparently at
random). A window "LyX: Stop command?" appears. Then you can either 
stop

or continue compiling. It is not clear to me when and why this
interruption occurs. Its appearance cannot be controlled by me.


It is. Which is why, if you leave your computer, you can find this 
dialog AND a completed compilation.


Riki,

I've never seen this happen. I run only linux and I see the build 
process in
the status bar at the bottom of the LyX window. The process halts only 
when

there's an error somewhere.

A curious mind wants to know,


There's a timeout for the compilation process in case something goes 
wrong and it enters an infinite loop. It's a pretty generous time, 
though I can't remember what it is, or even where it's set.


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Re: Stop command during compilation

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 5 May 2024, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:


the compilation of lyx files is repeatedly interrupted (apparently at
random). A window "LyX: Stop command?" appears. Then you can either stop
or continue compiling. It is not clear to me when and why this
interruption occurs. Its appearance cannot be controlled by me.


It is. Which is why, if you leave your computer, you can find this dialog AND 
a completed compilation.


Riki,

I've never seen this happen. I run only linux and I see the build process in
the status bar at the bottom of the LyX window. The process halts only when
there's an error somewhere.

A curious mind wants to know,

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Re: Stop command during compilation

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 5/5/24 11:25, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Sun, May 05, 2024 at 12:00:06PM GMT, Andreas Plihal via lyx-users wrote:

Hi,
  
the compilation of lyx files is repeatedly interrupted (apparently at

random). A window "LyX: Stop command?" appears. Then you can either
stop or continue compiling. It is not clear to me when and why this
interruption occurs. Its appearance cannot be controlled by me.
  
Please can you help me?

I believe it (should be) at a deterministic time, not random.

And I don't think compilation is actually interrupted, it just feels like it 
is. That is, during the dialog, I believe the code is still running.


It is. Which is why, if you leave your computer, you can find this 
dialog AND a completed compilation.




All that said, I personally would be in favor of removing the dialog, now that 
the user can cancel the process at anytime on their own (this didn't use to be 
possible). I think we had a discussion about that but I forgot how others felt 
about it.


I think we decided it was worth having both, though I am not sure. The 
manual cancellation thing doesn't always work. What might be nice would 
be to make the timeout a preference, and then setting it at 0 would 
disable it. Obviously too late to do that for 2.4.0.


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Re: Stop command during compilation

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sun, May 05, 2024 at 12:00:06PM GMT, Andreas Plihal via lyx-users wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> the compilation of lyx files is repeatedly interrupted (apparently at
> random). A window "LyX: Stop command?" appears. Then you can either
> stop or continue compiling. It is not clear to me when and why this
> interruption occurs. Its appearance cannot be controlled by me.
>  
> Please can you help me?

I believe it (should be) at a deterministic time, not random.

And I don't think compilation is actually interrupted, it just feels like it 
is. That is, during the dialog, I believe the code is still running.

All that said, I personally would be in favor of removing the dialog, now that 
the user can cancel the process at anytime on their own (this didn't use to be 
possible). I think we had a discussion about that but I forgot how others felt 
about it.

Scott


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Stop command during compilation

[Andreas Plihal via lyx-users]

Hi,

 

the compilation of lyx files is repeatedly interrupted (apparently at random). A window "LyX: Stop command?" appears. Then you can either stop or continue compiling. It is not clear to me when and why this interruption occurs. Its appearance cannot be controlled by me.

 

Please can you help me?

 

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Re: Stop pdflatex

[Richard Heck]

On 06/13/2016 09:26 AM, Jürgen Lange wrote:
> Hello,
> how can I stop the compiler process (pdflatex etc.) in Lyx? TeXworks
> has a start/stop button for the compilation: "Process interrupted by
> user". I want to avoid an appcrash of the compiler caused by faulty
> code (hanging process).

http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7900

Richard

Stop pdflatex

[Jürgen Lange]

Hello,
how can I stop the compiler process (pdflatex etc.) in Lyx? TeXworks has a  
start/stop button for the compilation: "Process interrupted by user". I  
want to avoid an appcrash of the compiler caused by faulty code (hanging  
process).


Regards
Jürgen

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Pavel Sanda]

Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
 This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0. 
 In my case, both the original and the backup files are complete, whereas the 
 emergency lacks 

Is there any chance you could compile lyx yourself and run it under debugger 
and send us backtrace when this happens again?
This would be REALLY appreciated, I can't imagine worse bug and we have no idea 
at the moment what's going on.

Pavel

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Pavel Sanda]

Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
 This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0. 
 In my case, both the original and the backup files are complete, whereas the 
 emergency lacks 

Is there any chance you could compile lyx yourself and run it under debugger 
and send us backtrace when this happens again?
This would be REALLY appreciated, I can't imagine worse bug and we have no idea 
at the moment what's going on.

Pavel

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Pavel Sanda]

Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
> This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0. 
> In my case, both the original and the backup files are complete, whereas the 
> emergency lacks 

Is there any chance you could compile lyx yourself and run it under debugger 
and send us backtrace when this happens again?
This would be REALLY appreciated, I can't imagine worse bug and we have no idea 
at the moment what's going on.

Pavel

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-21 21:52 GMT+02:00 Rudi Gaelzer:

 This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0.
 In my case, both the original and the backup files are complete, whereas
 the emergency lacks


Do you have input completion enabled? If so, does it help if you disable it?
If you could get a backtrace, it would help us a lot.

Jürgen

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Richard Heck]

On 05/21/2014 03:52 PM, Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0. In my case, both 
the original and the backup files are complete, whereas the emergency 
lacks

\end_body
\end_document and ends with
\begin_inset Tabular
I noticed that this seems to happen after I spent a long time working 
on the doc without saving, i. e., when the autosave kicks in. If I 
save the doc a lot, the crash don't happen. I'd suggest that you 
manually save your work and disable the autobackup in Tools - 
Preferences - Document Handling until the fix is available. 


Can you confirm that this really does help? I am not sure we even know 
that at this point


Richard

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-21 21:52 GMT+02:00 Rudi Gaelzer:

 This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0.
 In my case, both the original and the backup files are complete, whereas
 the emergency lacks


Do you have input completion enabled? If so, does it help if you disable it?
If you could get a backtrace, it would help us a lot.

Jürgen

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Richard Heck]

On 05/21/2014 03:52 PM, Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0. In my case, both 
the original and the backup files are complete, whereas the emergency 
lacks

\end_body
\end_document and ends with
\begin_inset Tabular
I noticed that this seems to happen after I spent a long time working 
on the doc without saving, i. e., when the autosave kicks in. If I 
save the doc a lot, the crash don't happen. I'd suggest that you 
manually save your work and disable the autobackup in Tools - 
Preferences - Document Handling until the fix is available. 


Can you confirm that this really does help? I am not sure we even know 
that at this point


Richard

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-21 21:52 GMT+02:00 Rudi Gaelzer:

> This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0.
> In my case, both the original and the backup files are complete, whereas
> the emergency lacks
>

Do you have input completion enabled? If so, does it help if you disable it?
If you could get a backtrace, it would help us a lot.

Jürgen

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Richard Heck]

On 05/21/2014 03:52 PM, Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0. In my case, both 
the original and the backup files are complete, whereas the emergency 
lacks

\end_body
\end_document and ends with
\begin_inset Tabular
I noticed that this seems to happen after I spent a long time working 
on the doc without saving, i. e., when the autosave kicks in. If I 
save the doc a lot, the crash don't happen. I'd suggest that you 
manually save your work and disable the autobackup in Tools -> 
Preferences -> Document Handling until the fix is available. 


Can you confirm that this really does help? I am not sure we even know 
that at this point


Richard

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Rudi Gaelzer]

On Friday 16 May 2014 09:41:27 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:
 
  Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one
  message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.
 
  Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a
  disaster for me if I lost the document.
 
  I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much
  in advance. Looking forward to your response.
 
 
 First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools 
 Preferences  Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
 there.
 
 Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with
 
 \begin_inset Tabular
 
 instead of
 
 \end_body
 \end_document
 
 then you have probably faced this bug
 
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049
 
 Jürgen
 
 
 
  Best wishes,
 
  Yan
 
 
 
 
 
 

This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0. 
In my case, both the original and the backup files are complete, whereas the 
emergency lacks 

\end_body
\end_document

and ends with 

\begin_inset Tabular

I noticed that this seems to happen after I spent a long time working on the 
doc without saving, i. e., when the autosave kicks in.  If I save the doc a 
lot, the crash don't happen.

I'd suggest that you manually save your work and disable the autobackup in 
Tools - Preferences - Document Handling until the fix is available.
-- 
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Institute of Physics
Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul
BRAZIL
Registered linux user # 153741

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Murat Yildizoglu]

That looks similar  to the problem I have signaled some time ago and more
recently.

Le mercredi 21 mai 2014, Rudi Gaelzer rgael...@gmail.com a écrit :

 On Friday 16 May 2014 09:41:27 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
  2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:
 
   Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with
 one
   message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.
  
   Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really
 a
   disaster for me if I lost the document.
  
   I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very
 much
   in advance. Looking forward to your response.
  
 
  First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools 
  Preferences  Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
  there.
 
  Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with
 
  \begin_inset Tabular
 
  instead of
 
  \end_body
  \end_document
 
  then you have probably faced this bug
 
  http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049
 
  Jürgen
 
 
  
   Best wishes,
  
   Yan
  
  
  
  
  
  

 This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0.
 In my case, both the original and the backup files are complete, whereas
 the emergency lacks

 \end_body
 \end_document

 and ends with

 \begin_inset Tabular

 I noticed that this seems to happen after I spent a long time working on
 the doc without saving, i. e., when the autosave kicks in.  If I save the
 doc a lot, the crash don't happen.

 I'd suggest that you manually save your work and disable the autobackup in
 Tools - Preferences - Document Handling until the fix is available.
 --
 Rudi Gaelzer
 Institute of Physics
 Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul
 BRAZIL
 Registered linux user # 153741



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Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Rudi Gaelzer]

On Friday 16 May 2014 09:41:27 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:
 
  Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one
  message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.
 
  Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a
  disaster for me if I lost the document.
 
  I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much
  in advance. Looking forward to your response.
 
 
 First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools 
 Preferences  Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
 there.
 
 Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with
 
 \begin_inset Tabular
 
 instead of
 
 \end_body
 \end_document
 
 then you have probably faced this bug
 
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049
 
 Jürgen
 
 
 
  Best wishes,
 
  Yan
 
 
 
 
 
 

This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0. 
In my case, both the original and the backup files are complete, whereas the 
emergency lacks 

\end_body
\end_document

and ends with 

\begin_inset Tabular

I noticed that this seems to happen after I spent a long time working on the 
doc without saving, i. e., when the autosave kicks in.  If I save the doc a 
lot, the crash don't happen.

I'd suggest that you manually save your work and disable the autobackup in 
Tools - Preferences - Document Handling until the fix is available.
-- 
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Institute of Physics
Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul
BRAZIL
Registered linux user # 153741

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Murat Yildizoglu]

That looks similar  to the problem I have signaled some time ago and more
recently.

Le mercredi 21 mai 2014, Rudi Gaelzer rgael...@gmail.com a écrit :

 On Friday 16 May 2014 09:41:27 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
  2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:
 
   Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with
 one
   message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.
  
   Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really
 a
   disaster for me if I lost the document.
  
   I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very
 much
   in advance. Looking forward to your response.
  
 
  First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools 
  Preferences  Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
  there.
 
  Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with
 
  \begin_inset Tabular
 
  instead of
 
  \end_body
  \end_document
 
  then you have probably faced this bug
 
  http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049
 
  Jürgen
 
 
  
   Best wishes,
  
   Yan
  
  
  
  
  
  

 This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0.
 In my case, both the original and the backup files are complete, whereas
 the emergency lacks

 \end_body
 \end_document

 and ends with

 \begin_inset Tabular

 I noticed that this seems to happen after I spent a long time working on
 the doc without saving, i. e., when the autosave kicks in.  If I save the
 doc a lot, the crash don't happen.

 I'd suggest that you manually save your work and disable the autobackup in
 Tools - Preferences - Document Handling until the fix is available.
 --
 Rudi Gaelzer
 Institute of Physics
 Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul
 BRAZIL
 Registered linux user # 153741



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UNIVERSITE DE BORDEAUX
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
MURAT YILDIZOGLU
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CS 50057
33608 PESSAC CEDEX
FRANCE

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mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Rudi Gaelzer]

On Friday 16 May 2014 09:41:27 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> 2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:
> 
> > Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one
> > message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.
> >
> > Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a
> > disaster for me if I lost the document.
> >
> > I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much
> > in advance. Looking forward to your response.
> >
> 
> First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools >
> Preferences > Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
> there.
> 
> Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with
> 
> \begin_inset Tabular
> 
> instead of
> 
> \end_body
> \end_document
> 
> then you have probably faced this bug
> 
> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049
> 
> Jürgen
> 
> 
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Yan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0. 
In my case, both the original and the backup files are complete, whereas the 
emergency lacks 

\end_body
\end_document

and ends with 

\begin_inset Tabular

I noticed that this seems to happen after I spent a long time working on the 
doc without saving, i. e., when the autosave kicks in.  If I save the doc a 
lot, the crash don't happen.

I'd suggest that you manually save your work and disable the autobackup in 
Tools -> Preferences -> Document Handling until the fix is available.
-- 
Rudi Gaelzer
Institute of Physics
Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul
BRAZIL
Registered linux user # 153741

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Murat Yildizoglu]

That looks similar  to the problem I have signaled some time ago and more
recently.

Le mercredi 21 mai 2014, Rudi Gaelzer <rgael...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> On Friday 16 May 2014 09:41:27 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > 2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:
> >
> > > Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with
> one
> > > message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.
> > >
> > > Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really
> a
> > > disaster for me if I lost the document.
> > >
> > > I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very
> much
> > > in advance. Looking forward to your response.
> > >
> >
> > First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools >
> > Preferences > Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
> > there.
> >
> > Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with
> >
> > \begin_inset Tabular
> >
> > instead of
> >
> > \end_body
> > \end_document
> >
> > then you have probably faced this bug
> >
> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049
> >
> > Jürgen
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Yan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> This is happening a lot for me, since version 2.1.0.
> In my case, both the original and the backup files are complete, whereas
> the emergency lacks
>
> \end_body
> \end_document
>
> and ends with
>
> \begin_inset Tabular
>
> I noticed that this seems to happen after I spent a long time working on
> the doc without saving, i. e., when the autosave kicks in.  If I save the
> doc a lot, the crash don't happen.
>
> I'd suggest that you manually save your work and disable the autobackup in
> Tools -> Preferences -> Document Handling until the fix is available.
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> Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul
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FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Wu, Yan]

From: Wu, Yan
Sent: 16 May 2014 08:29
To: lyx-users-h...@lists.lyx.orgmailto:lyx-users-h...@lists.lyx.org
Subject: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

Dear Sir/madam,

I am lyx user of version 2.1.0

Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one 
message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.

Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a 
disaster for me if I lost the document.

I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much in 
advance. Looking forward to your response.

Best wishes,

Yan

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:

 Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one
 message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.

 Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a
 disaster for me if I lost the document.

 I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much
 in advance. Looking forward to your response.


First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools 
Preferences  Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
there.

Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with

\begin_inset Tabular

instead of

\end_body
\end_document

then you have probably faced this bug

http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049

Jürgen



 Best wishes,

 Yan

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-16 9:41 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller:

 2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:

 Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one
 message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.

 Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a
 disaster for me if I lost the document.

 I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much
 in advance. Looking forward to your response.


 First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools 
 Preferences  Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
 there.

 Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with

 \begin_inset Tabular

 instead of

 \end_body
 \end_document

 then you have probably faced this bug

 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049


Just for the record: It turned out it was this bug, but fortunately, we
managed to restore the file completely. Yan sent me the emergency files and
backups (the one embraced in # and the one ending with lyx~), and it turned
out both were complete, and the latter was the most actual one.

Here is an advice, in case you are unlucky enough to get hit by this:

* Check if the lyx file itself is complete (ends with \end_document)
* If not, check if either the emergency file (#...#) or the backup file
(*.lyx~) are complete
* If only one is, rename it to the name of the original file.
* If both are (as in Yan's case), give them different names and check the
differences in LyX via Tools  Compare

Jürgen

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[aparsloe]

On 16/05/2014 9:45 p.m., Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

2014-05-16 9:41 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller:

2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:

Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document
crushed, with one message says: emergency stop...I could not
tell exactly.

Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It
is really a disaster for me if I lost the document.

I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank
you very much in advance. Looking forward to your response.


First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in
Tools  Preferences  Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a
backup of the file there.

Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with

\begin_inset Tabular

instead of

\end_body
\end_document

then you have probably faced this bug

http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049


Just for the record: It turned out it was this bug, but fortunately, 
we managed to restore the file completely. Yan sent me the emergency 
files and backups (the one embraced in # and the one ending with 
lyx~), and it turned out both were complete, and the latter was the 
most actual one.


Here is an advice, in case you are unlucky enough to get hit by this:

* Check if the lyx file itself is complete (ends with \end_document)
* If not, check if either the emergency file (#...#) or the backup 
file (*.lyx~) are complete

* If only one is, rename it to the name of the original file.
* If both are (as in Yan's case), give them different names and check 
the differences in LyX via Tools  Compare


Jürgen
Perhaps it is time to have a default location for a backup directory 
(beside one's personal LyX directory?), and for backing up files to be 
turned on out of the box. Not everyone scrutinises all the options 
under Tools  Preferences.  I suspect there are plenty of users who 
don't know about backups and how easy it is to create them 
automatically. People can always turn this off or change the location if 
they have other preferences.


Andrew

PS I've named my backup directory Lymbo.

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-16 12:17 GMT+02:00 aparsloe:

  Perhaps it is time to have a default location for a backup directory
 (beside one's personal LyX directory?), and for backing up files to be
 turned on out of the box. Not everyone scrutinises all the options under
 Tools  Preferences.  I suspect there are plenty of users who don't know
 about backups and how easy it is to create them automatically. People can
 always turn this off or change the location if they have other preferences.


I agree, but this is a packager's task and OS specific (we have lyxrc.dist
for this purpose).

Jürgen

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:
 2014-05-16 9:41 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller:

 2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:

 Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one
 message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.

 Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a
 disaster for me if I lost the document.

 I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much
 in advance. Looking forward to your response.


 First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools 
 Preferences  Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
 there.

 Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with

 \begin_inset Tabular

 instead of

 \end_body
 \end_document

 then you have probably faced this bug

 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049


 Just for the record: It turned out it was this bug, but fortunately, we
 managed to restore the file completely. Yan sent me the emergency files and
 backups (the one embraced in # and the one ending with lyx~), and it turned
 out both were complete, and the latter was the most actual one.

 Here is an advice, in case you are unlucky enough to get hit by this:

 * Check if the lyx file itself is complete (ends with \end_document)
 * If not, check if either the emergency file (#...#) or the backup file
 (*.lyx~) are complete
 * If only one is, rename it to the name of the original file.
 * If both are (as in Yan's case), give them different names and check the
 differences in LyX via Tools  Compare

And more generally, always use an automatic backup and syncing service
such as SpiderOak ( https://spideroak.com/ ). SpiderOak keeps
indefinite historic versions of backed up files (unlike Dropbox who
keeps the historic versions for 30 days only in the free version), and
allows users to retrieve them in such corruption cases.

Regards,
Liviu


 Jürgen



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FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Wu, Yan]

From: Wu, Yan
Sent: 16 May 2014 08:29
To: lyx-users-h...@lists.lyx.orgmailto:lyx-users-h...@lists.lyx.org
Subject: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

Dear Sir/madam,

I am lyx user of version 2.1.0

Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one 
message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.

Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a 
disaster for me if I lost the document.

I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much in 
advance. Looking forward to your response.

Best wishes,

Yan

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:

 Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one
 message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.

 Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a
 disaster for me if I lost the document.

 I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much
 in advance. Looking forward to your response.


First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools 
Preferences  Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
there.

Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with

\begin_inset Tabular

instead of

\end_body
\end_document

then you have probably faced this bug

http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049

Jürgen



 Best wishes,

 Yan

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-16 9:41 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller:

 2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:

 Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one
 message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.

 Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a
 disaster for me if I lost the document.

 I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much
 in advance. Looking forward to your response.


 First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools 
 Preferences  Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
 there.

 Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with

 \begin_inset Tabular

 instead of

 \end_body
 \end_document

 then you have probably faced this bug

 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049


Just for the record: It turned out it was this bug, but fortunately, we
managed to restore the file completely. Yan sent me the emergency files and
backups (the one embraced in # and the one ending with lyx~), and it turned
out both were complete, and the latter was the most actual one.

Here is an advice, in case you are unlucky enough to get hit by this:

* Check if the lyx file itself is complete (ends with \end_document)
* If not, check if either the emergency file (#...#) or the backup file
(*.lyx~) are complete
* If only one is, rename it to the name of the original file.
* If both are (as in Yan's case), give them different names and check the
differences in LyX via Tools  Compare

Jürgen

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[aparsloe]

On 16/05/2014 9:45 p.m., Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

2014-05-16 9:41 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller:

2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:

Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document
crushed, with one message says: emergency stop...I could not
tell exactly.

Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It
is really a disaster for me if I lost the document.

I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank
you very much in advance. Looking forward to your response.


First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in
Tools  Preferences  Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a
backup of the file there.

Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with

\begin_inset Tabular

instead of

\end_body
\end_document

then you have probably faced this bug

http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049


Just for the record: It turned out it was this bug, but fortunately, 
we managed to restore the file completely. Yan sent me the emergency 
files and backups (the one embraced in # and the one ending with 
lyx~), and it turned out both were complete, and the latter was the 
most actual one.


Here is an advice, in case you are unlucky enough to get hit by this:

* Check if the lyx file itself is complete (ends with \end_document)
* If not, check if either the emergency file (#...#) or the backup 
file (*.lyx~) are complete

* If only one is, rename it to the name of the original file.
* If both are (as in Yan's case), give them different names and check 
the differences in LyX via Tools  Compare


Jürgen
Perhaps it is time to have a default location for a backup directory 
(beside one's personal LyX directory?), and for backing up files to be 
turned on out of the box. Not everyone scrutinises all the options 
under Tools  Preferences.  I suspect there are plenty of users who 
don't know about backups and how easy it is to create them 
automatically. People can always turn this off or change the location if 
they have other preferences.


Andrew

PS I've named my backup directory Lymbo.

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-16 12:17 GMT+02:00 aparsloe:

  Perhaps it is time to have a default location for a backup directory
 (beside one's personal LyX directory?), and for backing up files to be
 turned on out of the box. Not everyone scrutinises all the options under
 Tools  Preferences.  I suspect there are plenty of users who don't know
 about backups and how easy it is to create them automatically. People can
 always turn this off or change the location if they have other preferences.


I agree, but this is a packager's task and OS specific (we have lyxrc.dist
for this purpose).

Jürgen

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:
 2014-05-16 9:41 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller:

 2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:

 Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one
 message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.

 Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a
 disaster for me if I lost the document.

 I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much
 in advance. Looking forward to your response.


 First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools 
 Preferences  Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
 there.

 Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with

 \begin_inset Tabular

 instead of

 \end_body
 \end_document

 then you have probably faced this bug

 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049


 Just for the record: It turned out it was this bug, but fortunately, we
 managed to restore the file completely. Yan sent me the emergency files and
 backups (the one embraced in # and the one ending with lyx~), and it turned
 out both were complete, and the latter was the most actual one.

 Here is an advice, in case you are unlucky enough to get hit by this:

 * Check if the lyx file itself is complete (ends with \end_document)
 * If not, check if either the emergency file (#...#) or the backup file
 (*.lyx~) are complete
 * If only one is, rename it to the name of the original file.
 * If both are (as in Yan's case), give them different names and check the
 differences in LyX via Tools  Compare

And more generally, always use an automatic backup and syncing service
such as SpiderOak ( https://spideroak.com/ ). SpiderOak keeps
indefinite historic versions of backed up files (unlike Dropbox who
keeps the historic versions for 30 days only in the free version), and
allows users to retrieve them in such corruption cases.

Regards,
Liviu


 Jürgen



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FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Wu, Yan]

From: Wu, Yan
Sent: 16 May 2014 08:29
To: lyx-users-h...@lists.lyx.org<mailto:lyx-users-h...@lists.lyx.org>
Subject: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

Dear Sir/madam,

I am lyx user of version 2.1.0

Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one 
message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.

Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a 
disaster for me if I lost the document.

I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much in 
advance. Looking forward to your response.

Best wishes,

Yan

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:

> Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one
> message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.
>
> Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a
> disaster for me if I lost the document.
>
> I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much
> in advance. Looking forward to your response.
>

First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools >
Preferences > Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
there.

Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with

\begin_inset Tabular

instead of

\end_body
\end_document

then you have probably faced this bug

http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049

Jürgen


>
> Best wishes,
>
> Yan
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-16 9:41 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller:

> 2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:
>
> Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one
>> message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.
>>
>> Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a
>> disaster for me if I lost the document.
>>
>> I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much
>> in advance. Looking forward to your response.
>>
>
> First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools >
> Preferences > Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
> there.
>
> Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with
>
> \begin_inset Tabular
>
> instead of
>
> \end_body
> \end_document
>
> then you have probably faced this bug
>
> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049
>

Just for the record: It turned out it was this bug, but fortunately, we
managed to restore the file completely. Yan sent me the emergency files and
backups (the one embraced in # and the one ending with lyx~), and it turned
out both were complete, and the latter was the most actual one.

Here is an advice, in case you are unlucky enough to get hit by this:

* Check if the lyx file itself is complete (ends with \end_document)
* If not, check if either the emergency file (#...#) or the backup file
(*.lyx~) are complete
* If only one is, rename it to the name of the original file.
* If both are (as in Yan's case), give them different names and check the
differences in LyX via Tools > Compare

Jürgen

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[aparsloe]

On 16/05/2014 9:45 p.m., Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

2014-05-16 9:41 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller:

2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:

Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document
crushed, with one message says: emergency stop...I could not
tell exactly.

Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It
is really a disaster for me if I lost the document.

I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank
you very much in advance. Looking forward to your response.


First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in
Tools > Preferences > Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a
backup of the file there.

Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with

\begin_inset Tabular

instead of

\end_body
\end_document

then you have probably faced this bug

http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049


Just for the record: It turned out it was this bug, but fortunately, 
we managed to restore the file completely. Yan sent me the emergency 
files and backups (the one embraced in # and the one ending with 
lyx~), and it turned out both were complete, and the latter was the 
most actual one.


Here is an advice, in case you are unlucky enough to get hit by this:

* Check if the lyx file itself is complete (ends with \end_document)
* If not, check if either the emergency file (#...#) or the backup 
file (*.lyx~) are complete

* If only one is, rename it to the name of the original file.
* If both are (as in Yan's case), give them different names and check 
the differences in LyX via Tools > Compare


Jürgen
Perhaps it is time to have a default location for a backup directory 
(beside one's personal LyX directory?), and for backing up files to be 
turned on "out of the box". Not everyone scrutinises all the options 
under Tools > Preferences.  I suspect there are plenty of users who 
don't know about backups and how easy it is to create them 
automatically. People can always turn this off or change the location if 
they have other preferences.


Andrew

PS I've named my backup directory Lymbo.

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2014-05-16 12:17 GMT+02:00 aparsloe:

>  Perhaps it is time to have a default location for a backup directory
> (beside one's personal LyX directory?), and for backing up files to be
> turned on "out of the box". Not everyone scrutinises all the options under
> Tools > Preferences.  I suspect there are plenty of users who don't know
> about backups and how easy it is to create them automatically. People can
> always turn this off or change the location if they have other preferences.
>

I agree, but this is a packager's task and OS specific (we have lyxrc.dist
for this purpose).

Jürgen

Re: FW: help/cannot open after emergency stop...

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller <sp...@lyx.org> wrote:
> 2014-05-16 9:41 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller:
>
>> 2014-05-16 8:34 GMT+02:00 Wu, Yan:
>>
>>> Today when I am writing with LyX. Suddenly the document crushed, with one
>>> message says: emergency stop...I could not tell exactly.
>>>
>>> Then the file closed but I could not open it again later. It is really a
>>> disaster for me if I lost the document.
>>>
>>> I write the email to ask any help I can get from you. Thank you very much
>>> in advance. Looking forward to your response.
>>
>>
>> First, check if you have a backup in the backup directory set in Tools >
>> Preferences > Path. If so (hopefully), you will find a backup of the file
>> there.
>>
>> Next, open the LyX file with a text editor. If it ends with
>>
>> \begin_inset Tabular
>>
>> instead of
>>
>> \end_body
>> \end_document
>>
>> then you have probably faced this bug
>>
>> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9049
>
>
> Just for the record: It turned out it was this bug, but fortunately, we
> managed to restore the file completely. Yan sent me the emergency files and
> backups (the one embraced in # and the one ending with lyx~), and it turned
> out both were complete, and the latter was the most actual one.
>
> Here is an advice, in case you are unlucky enough to get hit by this:
>
> * Check if the lyx file itself is complete (ends with \end_document)
> * If not, check if either the emergency file (#...#) or the backup file
> (*.lyx~) are complete
> * If only one is, rename it to the name of the original file.
> * If both are (as in Yan's case), give them different names and check the
> differences in LyX via Tools > Compare
>
And more generally, always use an automatic backup and syncing service
such as SpiderOak ( https://spideroak.com/ ). SpiderOak keeps
indefinite historic versions of backed up files (unlike Dropbox who
keeps the historic versions for 30 days only in the free version), and
allows users to retrieve them in such corruption cases.

Regards,
Liviu


> Jürgen



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Re: how to stop advanced find and replace

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Mittwoch, 9. Januar 2013, 21:08:26 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
 On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann
 
 engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
  Hi,
  
  advanced find and replace can take a lot of time. How can I stop the
  searching and exit?
 
 Escape now does it on the development version. It has not been
 backported for 2.0.6. If you are using Ubuntu, you can easily get the
 development version by using lyx2.1 from the daily PPA:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3

Thanks,  Scott, for this information.

Re: how to stop advanced find and replace

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Mittwoch, 9. Januar 2013, 21:08:26 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
 On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann
 
 engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
  Hi,
  
  advanced find and replace can take a lot of time. How can I stop the
  searching and exit?
 
 Escape now does it on the development version. It has not been
 backported for 2.0.6. If you are using Ubuntu, you can easily get the
 development version by using lyx2.1 from the daily PPA:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3

Thanks,  Scott, for this information.

Re: how to stop advanced find and replace

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Mittwoch, 9. Januar 2013, 21:08:26 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann
> 
> <engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > advanced find and replace can take a lot of time. How can I stop the
> > searching and exit?
> 
> Escape now does it on the development version. It has not been
> backported for 2.0.6. If you are using Ubuntu, you can easily get the
> development version by using lyx2.1 from the daily PPA:
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3

Thanks,  Scott, for this information.

how to stop advanced find and replace

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Hi,

advanced find and replace can take a lot of time. How can I stop the 
searching and exit?

I searched for
Ca^{2+} in (mathit)
which I wanted to convert into 
Ca^{2+} in (mathrm)

however, it was not found, although there are Ca^{2+} in (mathit)


Furthermore I got this

No information for converting fig format files to asciixfig.
Define a converter in the preferences.

when the search hit an xfig figure. 

Wolfgang

Re: how to stop advanced find and replace

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
 Hi,

 advanced find and replace can take a lot of time. How can I stop the
 searching and exit?

Escape now does it on the development version. It has not been
backported for 2.0.6. If you are using Ubuntu, you can easily get the
development version by using lyx2.1 from the daily PPA:
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3


 I searched for
 Ca^{2+} in (mathit)
 which I wanted to convert into
 Ca^{2+} in (mathrm)

 however, it was not found, although there are Ca^{2+} in (mathit)


 Furthermore I got this

 No information for converting fig format files to asciixfig.
 Define a converter in the preferences.

I also get something like this when searching the Embedded Objects manual.

Scott

how to stop advanced find and replace

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Hi,

advanced find and replace can take a lot of time. How can I stop the 
searching and exit?

I searched for
Ca^{2+} in (mathit)
which I wanted to convert into 
Ca^{2+} in (mathrm)

however, it was not found, although there are Ca^{2+} in (mathit)


Furthermore I got this

No information for converting fig format files to asciixfig.
Define a converter in the preferences.

when the search hit an xfig figure. 

Wolfgang

Re: how to stop advanced find and replace

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
 Hi,

 advanced find and replace can take a lot of time. How can I stop the
 searching and exit?

Escape now does it on the development version. It has not been
backported for 2.0.6. If you are using Ubuntu, you can easily get the
development version by using lyx2.1 from the daily PPA:
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3


 I searched for
 Ca^{2+} in (mathit)
 which I wanted to convert into
 Ca^{2+} in (mathrm)

 however, it was not found, although there are Ca^{2+} in (mathit)


 Furthermore I got this

 No information for converting fig format files to asciixfig.
 Define a converter in the preferences.

I also get something like this when searching the Embedded Objects manual.

Scott

how to stop advanced find and replace

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Hi,

advanced find and replace can take a lot of time. How can I stop the 
searching and exit?

I searched for
Ca^{2+} in (mathit)
which I wanted to convert into 
Ca^{2+} in (mathrm)

however, it was not found, although there are Ca^{2+} in (mathit)


Furthermore I got this

No information for converting fig format files to asciixfig.
Define a converter in the preferences.

when the search hit an xfig figure. 

Wolfgang

Re: how to stop advanced find and replace

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann
<engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> advanced find and replace can take a lot of time. How can I stop the
> searching and exit?

Escape now does it on the development version. It has not been
backported for 2.0.6. If you are using Ubuntu, you can easily get the
development version by using lyx2.1 from the daily PPA:
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu#toc3

>
> I searched for
> Ca^{2+} in (mathit)
> which I wanted to convert into
> Ca^{2+} in (mathrm)
>
> however, it was not found, although there are Ca^{2+} in (mathit)
>
>
> Furthermore I got this
>
> No information for converting fig format files to asciixfig.
> Define a converter in the preferences.

I also get something like this when searching the Embedded Objects manual.

Scott

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org wrote:
 Op 4-5-2012 13:42, Mike Bonhoff schreef:
 Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside the

 It will stop after 30 minutes. Alternatively you can kill the underlying
 processes (latex or something else).

To my knowledge this is 3 minutes. You may want to read this recent
discussion [1]. With some luck, Richard will implement this in 2.0.x.

Liviu

[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg173950.html

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Steve Litt]

On Sat, 5 May 2012 15:36:12 +0200
Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org
 wrote:
  Op 4-5-2012 13:42, Mike Bonhoff schreef:
  Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside
  the
 
  It will stop after 30 minutes. Alternatively you can kill the
  underlying processes (latex or something else).
 
 To my knowledge this is 3 minutes. You may want to read this recent
 discussion [1]. With some luck, Richard will implement this in 2.0.x.
 
 Liviu
 
 [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg173950.html

To which I still ask -- what kind of monster document takes an entire 3
minutes to compile?

SteveT

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 To which I still ask -- what kind of monster document takes an entire 3
 minutes to compile?

I guess it depends, but when you through in R computations via Sweave
you can easily hit 3 minutes as well as 3 hours.

Liviu

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org wrote:
 Op 4-5-2012 13:42, Mike Bonhoff schreef:
 Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside the

 It will stop after 30 minutes. Alternatively you can kill the underlying
 processes (latex or something else).

To my knowledge this is 3 minutes. You may want to read this recent
discussion [1]. With some luck, Richard will implement this in 2.0.x.

Liviu

[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg173950.html

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Steve Litt]

On Sat, 5 May 2012 15:36:12 +0200
Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org
 wrote:
  Op 4-5-2012 13:42, Mike Bonhoff schreef:
  Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside
  the
 
  It will stop after 30 minutes. Alternatively you can kill the
  underlying processes (latex or something else).
 
 To my knowledge this is 3 minutes. You may want to read this recent
 discussion [1]. With some luck, Richard will implement this in 2.0.x.
 
 Liviu
 
 [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg173950.html

To which I still ask -- what kind of monster document takes an entire 3
minutes to compile?

SteveT

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 To which I still ask -- what kind of monster document takes an entire 3
 minutes to compile?

I guess it depends, but when you through in R computations via Sweave
you can easily hit 3 minutes as well as 3 hours.

Liviu

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn <v...@lyx.org> wrote:
> Op 4-5-2012 13:42, Mike Bonhoff schreef:
>> Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside the
>
> It will stop after 30 minutes. Alternatively you can kill the underlying
> processes (latex or something else).
>
To my knowledge this is 3 minutes. You may want to read this recent
discussion [1]. With some luck, Richard will implement this in 2.0.x.

Liviu

[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg173950.html

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Steve Litt]

On Sat, 5 May 2012 15:36:12 +0200
Liviu Andronic <landronim...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn <v...@lyx.org>
> wrote:
> > Op 4-5-2012 13:42, Mike Bonhoff schreef:
> >> Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside
> >> the
> >
> > It will stop after 30 minutes. Alternatively you can kill the
> > underlying processes (latex or something else).
> >
> To my knowledge this is 3 minutes. You may want to read this recent
> discussion [1]. With some luck, Richard will implement this in 2.0.x.
> 
> Liviu
> 
> [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg173950.html

To which I still ask -- what kind of monster document takes an entire 3
minutes to compile?

SteveT

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Steve Litt  wrote:
> To which I still ask -- what kind of monster document takes an entire 3
> minutes to compile?
>
I guess it depends, but when you through in R computations via Sweave
you can easily hit 3 minutes as well as 3 hours.

Liviu

Stop Lyx compiling

[Mike Bonhoff]

Hi, Lyx-Users,

is there a possibility to stop Lyx when it is compiling. Today I had
several times the problem that I wanted to make a picture with tikz and
made some mistake in the Lyx-Code (forgot the semicolon in the end of a
command). Unfortunately Lyx doesn't return a message that there is a
mistake and is compiling forever. I can not even stop the program after
that.

 As I remember Kile was also not able to stop the compiling of such a
program, but there is a button to stop the compiling.

Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside the
tutorials about that theme. And google seems not to find anything, too.

Thanks!

Mike

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Op 4-5-2012 13:42, Mike Bonhoff schreef:

Hi, Lyx-Users,

is there a possibility to stop Lyx when it is compiling. Today I had 
several times the problem that I wanted to make a picture with tikz 
and made some mistake in the Lyx-Code (forgot the semicolon in the end 
of a command). Unfortunately Lyx doesn't return a message that there 
is a mistake and is compiling forever. I can not even stop the program 
after that.


 As I remember Kile was also not able to stop the compiling of such a 
program, but there is a button to stop the compiling.


Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside the 
tutorials about that theme. And google seems not to find anything, too.


Thanks!

Mike
It will stop after 30 minutes. Alternatively you can kill the underlying 
processes (latex or something else).


Vincent

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Steve Litt]

On Fri, 04 May 2012 13:49:23 +0200
Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org wrote:

 Op 4-5-2012 13:42, Mike Bonhoff schreef:
  Hi, Lyx-Users,
 
  is there a possibility to stop Lyx when it is compiling. Today I
  had several times the problem that I wanted to make a picture with
  tikz and made some mistake in the Lyx-Code (forgot the semicolon in
  the end of a command). Unfortunately Lyx doesn't return a message
  that there is a mistake and is compiling forever. I can not even
  stop the program after that.
 
   As I remember Kile was also not able to stop the compiling of such
  a program, but there is a button to stop the compiling.
 
  Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside
  the tutorials about that theme. And google seems not to find
  anything, too.
 
  Thanks!
 
  Mike
 It will stop after 30 minutes. Alternatively you can kill the
 underlying processes (latex or something else).
 

What kind of monstrous book would compile for 30 minutes? My 300 page,
108K word Key to Everyday Excellence takes 10 seconds to pdflatex
compile, 30 seconds to ps2pdf compile. I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with the
following hardware:
slitt@mydesk:~$ grep -A 3 ^model name /proc/cpuinfo
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7200  @ 2.53GHz
stepping: 6
cpu MHz : 1596.000
cache size  : 3072 KB

model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7200  @ 2.53GHz
stepping: 6
cpu MHz : 2527.000
cache size  : 3072 KB
slitt@mydesk:~$ head -n2 /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:4047324 kB
MemFree:  101804 kB
slitt@mydesk:~$

If I had a book that took 30 minutes to compile I would either:

1) Upgrade to fast multiprocessors and get 32GB of RAM, or
2) Split the book into multiple child documents.
3) Since the book's too long to read, split it into several books and
sell each one.

The computer in #1 is easily available for under a thousand now if you
build it from Newegg or CompUSA stock components.

SteveT

Stop Lyx compiling

[Mike Bonhoff]

Hi, Lyx-Users,

is there a possibility to stop Lyx when it is compiling. Today I had
several times the problem that I wanted to make a picture with tikz and
made some mistake in the Lyx-Code (forgot the semicolon in the end of a
command). Unfortunately Lyx doesn't return a message that there is a
mistake and is compiling forever. I can not even stop the program after
that.

 As I remember Kile was also not able to stop the compiling of such a
program, but there is a button to stop the compiling.

Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside the
tutorials about that theme. And google seems not to find anything, too.

Thanks!

Mike

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Op 4-5-2012 13:42, Mike Bonhoff schreef:

Hi, Lyx-Users,

is there a possibility to stop Lyx when it is compiling. Today I had 
several times the problem that I wanted to make a picture with tikz 
and made some mistake in the Lyx-Code (forgot the semicolon in the end 
of a command). Unfortunately Lyx doesn't return a message that there 
is a mistake and is compiling forever. I can not even stop the program 
after that.


 As I remember Kile was also not able to stop the compiling of such a 
program, but there is a button to stop the compiling.


Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside the 
tutorials about that theme. And google seems not to find anything, too.


Thanks!

Mike
It will stop after 30 minutes. Alternatively you can kill the underlying 
processes (latex or something else).


Vincent

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Steve Litt]

On Fri, 04 May 2012 13:49:23 +0200
Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org wrote:

 Op 4-5-2012 13:42, Mike Bonhoff schreef:
  Hi, Lyx-Users,
 
  is there a possibility to stop Lyx when it is compiling. Today I
  had several times the problem that I wanted to make a picture with
  tikz and made some mistake in the Lyx-Code (forgot the semicolon in
  the end of a command). Unfortunately Lyx doesn't return a message
  that there is a mistake and is compiling forever. I can not even
  stop the program after that.
 
   As I remember Kile was also not able to stop the compiling of such
  a program, but there is a button to stop the compiling.
 
  Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside
  the tutorials about that theme. And google seems not to find
  anything, too.
 
  Thanks!
 
  Mike
 It will stop after 30 minutes. Alternatively you can kill the
 underlying processes (latex or something else).
 

What kind of monstrous book would compile for 30 minutes? My 300 page,
108K word Key to Everyday Excellence takes 10 seconds to pdflatex
compile, 30 seconds to ps2pdf compile. I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with the
following hardware:
slitt@mydesk:~$ grep -A 3 ^model name /proc/cpuinfo
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7200  @ 2.53GHz
stepping: 6
cpu MHz : 1596.000
cache size  : 3072 KB

model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7200  @ 2.53GHz
stepping: 6
cpu MHz : 2527.000
cache size  : 3072 KB
slitt@mydesk:~$ head -n2 /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:4047324 kB
MemFree:  101804 kB
slitt@mydesk:~$

If I had a book that took 30 minutes to compile I would either:

1) Upgrade to fast multiprocessors and get 32GB of RAM, or
2) Split the book into multiple child documents.
3) Since the book's too long to read, split it into several books and
sell each one.

The computer in #1 is easily available for under a thousand now if you
build it from Newegg or CompUSA stock components.

SteveT

Stop Lyx compiling

[Mike Bonhoff]

Hi, Lyx-Users,

is there a possibility to stop Lyx when it is compiling. Today I had
several times the problem that I wanted to make a picture with tikz and
made some mistake in the Lyx-Code (forgot the semicolon in the end of a
command). Unfortunately Lyx doesn't return a message that there is a
mistake and is compiling forever. I can not even stop the program after
that.

 As I remember Kile was also not able to stop the compiling of such a
"program", but there is a button to stop the compiling.

Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside the
tutorials about that theme. And google seems not to find anything, too.

Thanks!

Mike

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Op 4-5-2012 13:42, Mike Bonhoff schreef:

Hi, Lyx-Users,

is there a possibility to stop Lyx when it is compiling. Today I had 
several times the problem that I wanted to make a picture with tikz 
and made some mistake in the Lyx-Code (forgot the semicolon in the end 
of a command). Unfortunately Lyx doesn't return a message that there 
is a mistake and is compiling forever. I can not even stop the program 
after that.


 As I remember Kile was also not able to stop the compiling of such a 
"program", but there is a button to stop the compiling.


Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside the 
tutorials about that theme. And google seems not to find anything, too.


Thanks!

Mike
It will stop after 30 minutes. Alternatively you can kill the underlying 
processes (latex or something else).


Vincent

Re: Stop Lyx compiling

[Steve Litt]

On Fri, 04 May 2012 13:49:23 +0200
Vincent van Ravesteijn <v...@lyx.org> wrote:

> Op 4-5-2012 13:42, Mike Bonhoff schreef:
> > Hi, Lyx-Users,
> >
> > is there a possibility to stop Lyx when it is compiling. Today I
> > had several times the problem that I wanted to make a picture with
> > tikz and made some mistake in the Lyx-Code (forgot the semicolon in
> > the end of a command). Unfortunately Lyx doesn't return a message
> > that there is a mistake and is compiling forever. I can not even
> > stop the program after that.
> >
> >  As I remember Kile was also not able to stop the compiling of such
> > a "program", but there is a button to stop the compiling.
> >
> > Can I stop Lyx when it is compiling? I didn't find anything inside
> > the tutorials about that theme. And google seems not to find
> > anything, too.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Mike
> It will stop after 30 minutes. Alternatively you can kill the
> underlying processes (latex or something else).
> 

What kind of monstrous book would compile for 30 minutes? My 300 page,
108K word "Key to Everyday Excellence" takes 10 seconds to pdflatex
compile, 30 seconds to ps2pdf compile. I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with the
following hardware:
slitt@mydesk:~$ grep -A 3 "^model name" /proc/cpuinfo
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7200  @ 2.53GHz
stepping: 6
cpu MHz : 1596.000
cache size  : 3072 KB

model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7200  @ 2.53GHz
stepping: 6
cpu MHz : 2527.000
cache size  : 3072 KB
slitt@mydesk:~$ head -n2 /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:4047324 kB
MemFree:  101804 kB
slitt@mydesk:~$

If I had a book that took 30 minutes to compile I would either:

1) Upgrade to fast multiprocessors and get 32GB of RAM, or
2) Split the book into multiple child documents.
3) Since the book's too long to read, split it into several books and
sell each one.

The computer in #1 is easily available for under a thousand now if you
build it from Newegg or CompUSA stock components.

SteveT

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 02/09/2011 12:17 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:



Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
library in the future?

xforms was being discussed lately.

Andre'


Interesting. Could you tell a bit more about xforms ?


That's the toolkit used by LyX before Qt.

Nothing to do with the W3C XForms (http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/)

Abdel.

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 02/09/2011 12:17 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:



Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
library in the future?

xforms was being discussed lately.

Andre'


Interesting. Could you tell a bit more about xforms ?


That's the toolkit used by LyX before Qt.

Nothing to do with the W3C XForms (http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/)

Abdel.

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Abdelrazak Younes]

On 02/09/2011 12:17 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:



Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
library in the future?

xforms was being discussed lately.

Andre'


Interesting. Could you tell a bit more about xforms ?


That's the toolkit used by LyX before Qt.

Nothing to do with the W3C XForms (http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/)

Abdel.

how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[John]

Hello:
I use Lyx 1.6.5 and Ubuntu 10.04. Lyx works fine, but if I am editing, 
then click the pdf icon to view the pdf output, then click back on the 
Lyx text to make a change, all too often the screen wildly jumps to some 
other part of the document.  For example, I might be editing the end of 
the document, and after returning to Lyx and clicking on a sentence the 
screen will jump to the first page, or somewhere else.  It seems to 
happen about 25% of the time.  Its very annoying, as I have to scroll 
around to re-find the sentence I want to edit.  Sometimes the screen 
even jumps again when I try to put the cursor on my desired sentence.  I 
don't know if it is related to having floating picture frames on some of 
my pages.  Maybe the problem would not occur if I had only plain text.  
Has anyone else had this problem?  Is there a fix? My document is about 
60 pages long.

Thanks, John.

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Pavel Sanda]

John wrote:
 Has anyone else had this problem? 

yes

Is there a fix?

it should be fixed in newer versions.

pavel

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:49 PM, John j200...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello:
 I use Lyx 1.6.5 and Ubuntu 10.04. Lyx works fine, but if I am editing, then
 click the pdf icon to view the pdf output, then click back on the Lyx text
 to make a change, all too often the screen wildly jumps to some other part
 of the document.

There are known incompatibilities between the LyX and Qt versions
shipped in 10.04. Try [1][2].
Liviu

[1] http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2010/08/17/lyx167
[2] https://launchpad.net/~lyx-outline-devel/+archive/lyx-stable



 For example, I might be editing the end of the document,
 and after returning to Lyx and clicking on a sentence the screen will jump
 to the first page, or somewhere else.  It seems to happen about 25% of the
 time.  Its very annoying, as I have to scroll around to re-find the sentence
 I want to edit.  Sometimes the screen even jumps again when I try to put the
 cursor on my desired sentence.  I don't know if it is related to having
 floating picture frames on some of my pages.  Maybe the problem would not
 occur if I had only plain text.  Has anyone else had this problem?  Is there
 a fix? My document is about 60 pages long.
 Thanks, John.




-- 
Do you know how to read?
http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader
Do you know how to write?
http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Ernesto Posse]

I have noticed a similar problem when editing tables, specially tables
that contain formulas.

Whenever I have a table with many rows and math formulas
inside, and only part of the table is visible in the writing area, if
the cursor is outside the table, and I click inside a math formula,
the focus changes, and LyX rearranges the view so that the row where I
clicked goes to (near) the top of the writing area (sometimes to the
bottom). Actually this happens also when I click in some cell without
a math formula, but not always for some reason. I find this extremely
annoying, as I have to do this sort of editing very often so I get the
text bouncing around.

So my questions are:
1) is this a bug, or by design?
2) if by design, what is the reason for this behaviour?
3) Is there anyway to make LyX stop doing this?

(I'm using lyx 1.6.7 on Ubuntu 10.10)

Thanks.



On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 John wrote:
 Has anyone else had this problem?

 yes

Is there a fix?

 it should be fixed in newer versions.

 pavel




-- 
Ernesto Posse

Modelling and Analysis in Software Engineering
School of Computing
Queen's University - Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Steve Litt]

On Tuesday 08 February 2011 16:02:08 Liviu Andronic wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:49 PM, John j200...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello:
  I use Lyx 1.6.5 and Ubuntu 10.04. Lyx works fine, but if I am editing,
  then click the pdf icon to view the pdf output, then click back on the
  Lyx text to make a change, all too often the screen wildly jumps to some
  other part of the document.
 
 There are known incompatibilities between the LyX and Qt versions
 shipped in 10.04. Try [1][2].
 Liviu

Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic library in 
the future?

SteveT

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Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 04:42:24PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 February 2011 16:02:08 Liviu Andronic wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:49 PM, John j200...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hello: I use Lyx 1.6.5 and Ubuntu 10.04. Lyx works fine, but if I
   am editing, then click the pdf icon to view the pdf output, then
   click back on the Lyx text to make a change, all too often the
   screen wildly jumps to some other part of the document.
  
  There are known incompatibilities between the LyX and Qt versions
  shipped in 10.04. Try [1][2].  Liviu
 
 Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
 library in the future?

xforms was being discussed lately.

Andre'

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
library in the future?

xforms was being discussed lately.

Andre'


Interesting. Could you tell a bit more about xforms ?

Vincent

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Pavel Sanda]

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:
 Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
 library in the future?
 xforms was being discussed lately.

 Andre'

 Interesting. Could you tell a bit more about xforms ?

finally we can get rid of unicode. hopefully! :)
p

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Pavel Sanda]

Steve Litt wrote:
 Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic library 
 in 
 the future?

big part of this issue is that there is no lyx maintainer in ubuntu so the
result is orphaned lyx package using wrong dependencies.
poor ubuntu users ;)

pavel

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Pavel Sanda]

Ernesto Posse wrote:
 So my questions are:
 1) is this a bug, or by design?

sounds like bug, but its unrelated to the previous report.

 2) if by design, what is the reason for this behaviour?
 3) Is there anyway to make LyX stop doing this?

try to scream in bug tracker...

pavel

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 12:17:07AM +0100, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:
 
 Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
 library in the future?
 xforms was being discussed lately.
 
 Andre'
 
 Interesting. Could you tell a bit more about xforms ?

Super cool cross-platform toolkit. Runs on several version of Unix, even
in parallel, with multiple users logged in, on Fridays. Also available
on Mac using darwin ports, and probably even on properly configured
Windows machines (i.e. with X server running)

Comes with a feature rich gui designer called 'fdesign' and incredible
unicode support. Lightweight by design, robust, mature, and easily 
maintainable by core LyX contributors.

Oh, and it uses git: git clone git://git.savannah.nongnu.org/xforms.git 

Andre'

how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[John]

Hello:
I use Lyx 1.6.5 and Ubuntu 10.04. Lyx works fine, but if I am editing, 
then click the pdf icon to view the pdf output, then click back on the 
Lyx text to make a change, all too often the screen wildly jumps to some 
other part of the document.  For example, I might be editing the end of 
the document, and after returning to Lyx and clicking on a sentence the 
screen will jump to the first page, or somewhere else.  It seems to 
happen about 25% of the time.  Its very annoying, as I have to scroll 
around to re-find the sentence I want to edit.  Sometimes the screen 
even jumps again when I try to put the cursor on my desired sentence.  I 
don't know if it is related to having floating picture frames on some of 
my pages.  Maybe the problem would not occur if I had only plain text.  
Has anyone else had this problem?  Is there a fix? My document is about 
60 pages long.

Thanks, John.

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Pavel Sanda]

John wrote:
 Has anyone else had this problem? 

yes

Is there a fix?

it should be fixed in newer versions.

pavel

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:49 PM, John j200...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello:
 I use Lyx 1.6.5 and Ubuntu 10.04. Lyx works fine, but if I am editing, then
 click the pdf icon to view the pdf output, then click back on the Lyx text
 to make a change, all too often the screen wildly jumps to some other part
 of the document.

There are known incompatibilities between the LyX and Qt versions
shipped in 10.04. Try [1][2].
Liviu

[1] http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2010/08/17/lyx167
[2] https://launchpad.net/~lyx-outline-devel/+archive/lyx-stable



 For example, I might be editing the end of the document,
 and after returning to Lyx and clicking on a sentence the screen will jump
 to the first page, or somewhere else.  It seems to happen about 25% of the
 time.  Its very annoying, as I have to scroll around to re-find the sentence
 I want to edit.  Sometimes the screen even jumps again when I try to put the
 cursor on my desired sentence.  I don't know if it is related to having
 floating picture frames on some of my pages.  Maybe the problem would not
 occur if I had only plain text.  Has anyone else had this problem?  Is there
 a fix? My document is about 60 pages long.
 Thanks, John.




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Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Ernesto Posse]

I have noticed a similar problem when editing tables, specially tables
that contain formulas.

Whenever I have a table with many rows and math formulas
inside, and only part of the table is visible in the writing area, if
the cursor is outside the table, and I click inside a math formula,
the focus changes, and LyX rearranges the view so that the row where I
clicked goes to (near) the top of the writing area (sometimes to the
bottom). Actually this happens also when I click in some cell without
a math formula, but not always for some reason. I find this extremely
annoying, as I have to do this sort of editing very often so I get the
text bouncing around.

So my questions are:
1) is this a bug, or by design?
2) if by design, what is the reason for this behaviour?
3) Is there anyway to make LyX stop doing this?

(I'm using lyx 1.6.7 on Ubuntu 10.10)

Thanks.



On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 John wrote:
 Has anyone else had this problem?

 yes

Is there a fix?

 it should be fixed in newer versions.

 pavel




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Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Steve Litt]

On Tuesday 08 February 2011 16:02:08 Liviu Andronic wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:49 PM, John j200...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello:
  I use Lyx 1.6.5 and Ubuntu 10.04. Lyx works fine, but if I am editing,
  then click the pdf icon to view the pdf output, then click back on the
  Lyx text to make a change, all too often the screen wildly jumps to some
  other part of the document.
 
 There are known incompatibilities between the LyX and Qt versions
 shipped in 10.04. Try [1][2].
 Liviu

Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic library in 
the future?

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 04:42:24PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 February 2011 16:02:08 Liviu Andronic wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:49 PM, John j200...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hello: I use Lyx 1.6.5 and Ubuntu 10.04. Lyx works fine, but if I
   am editing, then click the pdf icon to view the pdf output, then
   click back on the Lyx text to make a change, all too often the
   screen wildly jumps to some other part of the document.
  
  There are known incompatibilities between the LyX and Qt versions
  shipped in 10.04. Try [1][2].  Liviu
 
 Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
 library in the future?

xforms was being discussed lately.

Andre'

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
library in the future?

xforms was being discussed lately.

Andre'


Interesting. Could you tell a bit more about xforms ?

Vincent

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Pavel Sanda]

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:
 Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
 library in the future?
 xforms was being discussed lately.

 Andre'

 Interesting. Could you tell a bit more about xforms ?

finally we can get rid of unicode. hopefully! :)
p

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Pavel Sanda]

Steve Litt wrote:
 Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic library 
 in 
 the future?

big part of this issue is that there is no lyx maintainer in ubuntu so the
result is orphaned lyx package using wrong dependencies.
poor ubuntu users ;)

pavel

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Pavel Sanda]

Ernesto Posse wrote:
 So my questions are:
 1) is this a bug, or by design?

sounds like bug, but its unrelated to the previous report.

 2) if by design, what is the reason for this behaviour?
 3) Is there anyway to make LyX stop doing this?

try to scream in bug tracker...

pavel

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 12:17:07AM +0100, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:
 
 Ah yes, Qt4 issues again. Any thoughts of using a different graphic
 library in the future?
 xforms was being discussed lately.
 
 Andre'
 
 Interesting. Could you tell a bit more about xforms ?

Super cool cross-platform toolkit. Runs on several version of Unix, even
in parallel, with multiple users logged in, on Fridays. Also available
on Mac using darwin ports, and probably even on properly configured
Windows machines (i.e. with X server running)

Comes with a feature rich gui designer called 'fdesign' and incredible
unicode support. Lightweight by design, robust, mature, and easily 
maintainable by core LyX contributors.

Oh, and it uses git: git clone git://git.savannah.nongnu.org/xforms.git 

Andre'

how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[John]

Hello:
I use Lyx 1.6.5 and Ubuntu 10.04. Lyx works fine, but if I am editing, 
then click the pdf icon to view the pdf output, then click back on the 
Lyx text to make a change, all too often the screen wildly jumps to some 
other part of the document.  For example, I might be editing the end of 
the document, and after returning to Lyx and clicking on a sentence the 
screen will jump to the first page, or somewhere else.  It seems to 
happen about 25% of the time.  Its very annoying, as I have to scroll 
around to re-find the sentence I want to edit.  Sometimes the screen 
even jumps again when I try to put the cursor on my desired sentence.  I 
don't know if it is related to having floating picture frames on some of 
my pages.  Maybe the problem would not occur if I had only plain text.  
Has anyone else had this problem?  Is there a fix? My document is about 
60 pages long.

Thanks, John.

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Pavel Sanda]

John wrote:
> Has anyone else had this problem? 

yes

>Is there a fix?

it should be fixed in newer versions.

pavel

Re: how to stop annoying screen jumps?

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:49 PM, John  wrote:
> Hello:
> I use Lyx 1.6.5 and Ubuntu 10.04. Lyx works fine, but if I am editing, then
> click the pdf icon to view the pdf output, then click back on the Lyx text
> to make a change, all too often the screen wildly jumps to some other part
> of the document.
>
There are known incompatibilities between the LyX and Qt versions
shipped in 10.04. Try [1][2].
Liviu

[1] http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2010/08/17/lyx167
[2] https://launchpad.net/~lyx-outline-devel/+archive/lyx-stable



> For example, I might be editing the end of the document,
> and after returning to Lyx and clicking on a sentence the screen will jump
> to the first page, or somewhere else.  It seems to happen about 25% of the
> time.  Its very annoying, as I have to scroll around to re-find the sentence
> I want to edit.  Sometimes the screen even jumps again when I try to put the
> cursor on my desired sentence.  I don't know if it is related to having
> floating picture frames on some of my pages.  Maybe the problem would not
> occur if I had only plain text.  Has anyone else had this problem?  Is there
> a fix? My document is about 60 pages long.
> Thanks, John.
>



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