Re: Mac and daisy?
Gordon: If all I'm looking to do is play the books, navigate and stuff like that, will Olaria do that? On 7/26/12, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: There is no problem with copying daisy books across to the player on the Mac. Just put your daisy CD in the drive. Providing you have preferences set in Finder to show all drives then your Daisy CD will show up on the desktop. If it is an RNIB book it will be a long number beginning with 0. Just press command c on the drive on the desktop and copy it to the Daisy Player of your choice. It is likely that your Dictaphone will also show up as a drive, or if uses an SD card, ditto. Any mp3 player will also play the mp3 content of the Daisy book though not necessarily in the correct chapter order, depending on how the book is structured. Of course you could rename the mp3 files to ensure they are played in correct order but this is a little time consuming. Most RNIB books nowadays will play fine in a standard mp3 player as they appear to have stopped the practice of scrambling the order of chapters. The only other thing to note it that the RNIB daisy books are now intolerant of me renaming the books from this long number to something more familiar. I have only experienced this as a problem in the last year. The way I resolve this is to create a folder on the Mac in Finder with a more familiar book name and simply copy the CD across into that folder. David Griffith. . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Lovette Yewchan Sent: 26 July 2012 04:41 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: mac and daisy? HI there. I am wondering if you can insert a daisy cd into the mac and copy the files to a digital recorder or do you need a daisy player on the mac for this to work? THanks. Lovette On 2012-07-25, at 6:41 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: There are a couple of players currently that I know of, one is free and one isn't. Obviously you gets what you pays for, and personally I find Olearia a bit restrictive in as much as it doesn't support libraries of books, and there are quite a few other things it won't do. But it's free and you can find it here: http://code.google.com/p/olearia/ The other one is called ReadHear and is available from http://www.gh-accessibility.com/software/readhear-mac-instant-download It's a bit on the pricy side, and hasn't been updated in a million years. That said, it does work, and very well. The one area they don't cover is DAISY creation. That can't really be done on OS X unless you're prepared to accept a half-baked solution. There is an OpenOffice plugin but I personally found it to be more trouble than it's worth. Gordon On 24 Jul 2012, at 22:20, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, is there a way that mac can play daisy books, like from BARD? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access
Xoom Office
According to Humanware the ZoomOffice software will work under Lion but you have to install X11. I tried it with XQuartz but no joy; I got installation failed. is there another version of X11 I can try? I'm happy to play with this as I've a developer machine running mountain lion so if anything breaks I can just reinstall it. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion - where are my private mail boxes?
Hello Sarah, The hide / unhide mail boxes did not help. However when I tried to import a single private mail box into Apple Mail on Mountain Lion they all magically appeared in the list of mail boxes. Seems like there is a bit of a glitch here. Best wishes Paul Hopewell On 26 Jul 2012, at 00:06, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hit cmd shift m to unhide mail boxes. it will show you mail boxes as normal. Take care. If that does not work let us know. On Jul 25, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello, I have just installed Mountain Lion and am having problems with Apple Mail. I have mail preferences set to classic view. When I look at my mail box table I see inbox, drafts, sent,junk and trash but none of the private mail boxes stored on my iMac. When I look at the move message menu I can move it to any of my private mail boxes so they are still there! How can I get them into the list of mail boxes when I start Mail? One good thing I have noticed is that the system menu bar now displays all items added by third party applications! that is a great benefit. Best wishes Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
another mail bug or feature
Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behaviour of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else finding this? I'm probably the only one this is annoying but anyway. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: another mail bug or feature
Hi Donald, yes it behaves for me the same as it does for you. It is annoying but I can live with it. Paul Hopewell On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:41, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behaviour of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else finding this? I'm probably the only one this is annoying but anyway. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: another mail bug or feature
Good morning, You can jump from the mailboxes list to the list of the messages contained within each by using cmd accent/whatever the key is just above the tab key. Just discovered that by accident, but I hope it helps someone. Have fun everyone, and continue playing! :) On Jul 26, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behaviour of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else finding this? I'm probably the only one this is annoying but anyway. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: another mail bug or feature
Not for me I'm afraid. Interestingly, vo-j jumps from mailboxes to messages, but not back. Incidentally, for those using a British keyboard, the accent key is to the left of Shift beside Z. On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:47, ShamelessFanGirl wrote: Good morning, You can jump from the mailboxes list to the list of the messages contained within each by using cmd accent/whatever the key is just above the tab key. Just discovered that by accident, but I hope it helps someone. Have fun everyone, and continue playing! :) On Jul 26, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behaviour of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else finding this? I'm probably the only one this is annoying but anyway. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: another mail bug or feature
I've bugged that one as well Paul. A while back in fact. On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:46, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hi Donald, yes it behaves for me the same as it does for you. It is annoying but I can live with it. Paul Hopewell On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:41, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behaviour of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else finding this? I'm probably the only one this is annoying but anyway. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet
Gordon: I believe version 3 is for SL and anything below 3 is for Leopard. On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Colin Just to clarify. Version 4.1.1 works perfectly under Mountain Lion. So whoever started that rumour needs to check their facts. :) Version 3 may not work, but that is understandable as it is no longer under development. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 01:00, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Well I do not use it! But somewhere else another VO user is using a version 4point something or other and says it is ok! But he does not use Jaws! And another vo user using 3point something found out that that version does not work! So it seems you might have to pay for a upgrade if your version is Under that 4 point something! hth Colin --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet
Hi Sarah It's quite probable that version 3 won't work. There were a lot of OS changes since v3 was discontinued. Can you shed any light as to which version your contact(s) is/are running? Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 02:19, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm mm the error was this app can't can't run on this type of computer, which is strange as ml installed fine. I wonder why most are having the issue and some are not. Ah well I have my CCC back up. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: another mail bug or feature
Same here, but don't often do that anyway. Interact in message so have to back out of that then just vo left arrow twice and there I am. But I remember the days of tiger when using tab went all over like now, that's probably why I never got into the habit of doing that. On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Hi Donald, yes it behaves for me the same as it does for you. It is annoying but I can live with it. Paul Hopewell On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:41, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behavior of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else finding this? I'm probably the only one this is annoying but anyway. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet
Hi, The latest VMWare Fusion works perfectly fine. The latest version is 4.1.3, but every 4.x version has worked without a hitch. VMWare may not be aware it works if they don't have the ability to test it, of course, which is where this might stem from. Either way, though, it works fine and as expected. Even if VMWare doesn't officially support Fusion under Mountain Lion, it still runs my virtual machines so that's proof enough. There may be initial features that Mountain Lion has added which are not supported by Fusion, but obviously that's just a matter of VMWare implementing them. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Sarah It's quite probable that version 3 won't work. There were a lot of OS changes since v3 was discontinued. Can you shed any light as to which version your contact(s) is/are running? Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 02:19, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm mm the error was this app can't can't run on this type of computer, which is strange as ml installed fine. I wonder why most are having the issue and some are not. Ah well I have my CCC back up. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: another mail bug or feature
Hi Donal This has been the subject of much discussion. The only way I know to minimalist the change is to hide the Favourites bar and other things that I personally never use. Also, you might want to change the layout to Classic under the View preferences tab. Unfortunately though, Mail will never be the same again. The best way to navigate between the Mailbox table and the Messages table is to VO+Left/right cursor keys twice. If you're in the mailbox table, VO+Cursor right twice. If you're in the messages table of a mailbox, VO+Cursor Left twice. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:41, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behaviour of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else finding this? I'm probably the only one this is annoying but anyway. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: another mail bug or feature
That doesn't work for me, it never has in all the time i've been using ML. The best way I've found is to VO+Left/Right cursor twice. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:47, ShamelessFanGirl shamelessfang...@gmail.com wrote: You can jump from the mailboxes list to the list of the messages contained within each by using cmd accent/whatever the key is just above the tab key. Just discovered that by accident, but I hope it helps someone. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet
Hi John yes, I concur with that. This is why I stated that it wasn't going to work under Mountain Lion. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:56, John Gunn g...@tznet.com wrote: I believe version 3 is for SL and anything below 3 is for Leopard. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet
The latest version is on our software site if anybody needs it, under /Virtualisation/Mac OS X/VMWare Fusion/VMware Fusion 4.1.3. Start here: https://files.mac-access.net/?login=software:software Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 12:51, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: The latest VMWare Fusion works perfectly fine. The latest version is 4.1.3, but every 4.x version has worked without a hitch. VMWare may not be aware it works if they don't have the ability to test it, of course, which is where this might stem from. Either way, though, it works fine and as expected. Even if VMWare doesn't officially support Fusion under Mountain Lion, it still runs my virtual machines so that's proof enough. There may be initial features that Mountain Lion has added which are not supported by Fusion, but obviously that's just a matter of VMWare implementing them. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Sarah It's quite probable that version 3 won't work. There were a lot of OS changes since v3 was discontinued. Can you shed any light as to which version your contact(s) is/are running? Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 02:19, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm mm the error was this app can't can't run on this type of computer, which is strange as ml installed fine. I wonder why most are having the issue and some are not. Ah well I have my CCC back up. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet
gordon et al i have 4.1.3 but my machine is not starting up On 26 Jul 2012, at 13:50, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: The latest version is on our software site if anybody needs it, under /Virtualisation/Mac OS X/VMWare Fusion/VMware Fusion 4.1.3. Start here: https://files.mac-access.net/?login=software:software Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 12:51, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: The latest VMWare Fusion works perfectly fine. The latest version is 4.1.3, but every 4.x version has worked without a hitch. VMWare may not be aware it works if they don't have the ability to test it, of course, which is where this might stem from. Either way, though, it works fine and as expected. Even if VMWare doesn't officially support Fusion under Mountain Lion, it still runs my virtual machines so that's proof enough. There may be initial features that Mountain Lion has added which are not supported by Fusion, but obviously that's just a matter of VMWare implementing them. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Sarah It's quite probable that version 3 won't work. There were a lot of OS changes since v3 was discontinued. Can you shed any light as to which version your contact(s) is/are running? Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 02:19, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm mm the error was this app can't can't run on this type of computer, which is strange as ml installed fine. I wonder why most are having the issue and some are not. Ah well I have my CCC back up. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet
Hi William This must be a local issue, it's worked here for ages and is working as I write. Make sure you have the very latest build to be sure of support but all the time I've used 4.1.x it has worked seamlessly. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 13:51, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: gordon et al i have 4.1.3 but my machine is not starting up --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Why Mountain Lion?
Hi I guess it really depends upon your needs but there is one good reason I can think of which may not be at first apparent. Apple recently changed their security layer so that they can more easily rebut security threats. This is an under the hood kind of reason, but all the same. That said, others are fulfilling my pre-release prediction with their outcries regarding things like Mail. So in a nut shell, if you want to stay current, and if you don't mind a bit of change, upgrade. If, on the other hand, you're more happy with what you have, then stick with it. There are several under the hood changes though to Mountain Lion designed to make life easier regarding integration with iCloud and mobile devices. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 13:51, Christo Thiardt christ...@sky.com wrote: as a reasonably new MacBook user … what good reasons are there for me to upgrade from Lion to Mountain Lion? Inspired thoughts gratefully recived. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet
guess ahve re-install my vm says it is running but no sound or anything On 26 Jul 2012, at 13:53, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi William This must be a local issue, it's worked here for ages and is working as I write. Make sure you have the very latest build to be sure of support but all the time I've used 4.1.x it has worked seamlessly. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 13:51, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: gordon et al i have 4.1.3 but my machine is not starting up --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: another mail bug or feature
Hi Gordon, I'm afraid I'm a demon for using generic keyboard access rather than screenreader commands when possible. I do this because if I'm on a machine with no screenreader I can still get around reasonably efficiently. I've used the VO-left/right to navigate. However to me it just seems cumbersome. I wholeheartedly agree with you about hiding favourites etc I did that right off, and also I much prefer the classic view. Cheers, Dónal On 26 Jul 2012, at 13:28, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Donal This has been the subject of much discussion. The only way I know to minimalist the change is to hide the Favourites bar and other things that I personally never use. Also, you might want to change the layout to Classic under the View preferences tab. Unfortunately though, Mail will never be the same again. The best way to navigate between the Mailbox table and the Messages table is to VO+Left/right cursor keys twice. If you're in the mailbox table, VO+Cursor right twice. If you're in the messages table of a mailbox, VO+Cursor Left twice. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:41, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behaviour of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else finding this? I'm probably the only one this is annoying but anyway. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet
Make sure your sound card is connected in the devices list before you trash the VM. On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:01, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: guess ahve re-install my vm says it is running but no sound or anything --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: another mail bug or feature
Hi Donal Yes, I agree with you totally on that point. I much prefer to use OS key stroke for much the same reasons. However, look at this particular problem logically. Are you really going to be using Mail without a screen-reader? Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:07, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Gordon, I'm afraid I'm a demon for using generic keyboard access rather than screenreader commands when possible. I do this because if I'm on a machine with no screenreader I can still get around reasonably efficiently. I've used the VO-left/right to navigate. However to me it just seems cumbersome. I wholeheartedly agree with you about hiding favourites etc I did that right off, and also I much prefer the classic view. Cheers, Dónal On 26 Jul 2012, at 13:28, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Donal This has been the subject of much discussion. The only way I know to minimalist the change is to hide the Favourites bar and other things that I personally never use. Also, you might want to change the layout to Classic under the View preferences tab. Unfortunately though, Mail will never be the same again. The best way to navigate between the Mailbox table and the Messages table is to VO+Left/right cursor keys twice. If you're in the mailbox table, VO+Cursor right twice. If you're in the messages table of a mailbox, VO+Cursor Left twice. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:41, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behaviour of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else finding this? I'm probably the only one this is annoying but anyway. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: another mail bug or feature
probably not Gordon, but why fix something that isn't broken? If we look at how a sighted user navigates from messages to mailboxes it's a mousemovement and a click on the appropriate mailbox. Under Lion, it was one keystroke (albeit involving two keys) and the initial letters of the folder you wanted. Now: 1. stop interacting with the table; 2. VO left; 3. Vo-left; 4. interact with mailboxes table; 5. type initial letters of the mailbox. By anyone's metrics, let alone those of theoretical human-computer interaction, that's broken. Dónal On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:12, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Donal Yes, I agree with you totally on that point. I much prefer to use OS key stroke for much the same reasons. However, look at this particular problem logically. Are you really going to be using Mail without a screen-reader? Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:07, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Gordon, I'm afraid I'm a demon for using generic keyboard access rather than screenreader commands when possible. I do this because if I'm on a machine with no screenreader I can still get around reasonably efficiently. I've used the VO-left/right to navigate. However to me it just seems cumbersome. I wholeheartedly agree with you about hiding favourites etc I did that right off, and also I much prefer the classic view. Cheers, Dónal On 26 Jul 2012, at 13:28, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Donal This has been the subject of much discussion. The only way I know to minimalist the change is to hide the Favourites bar and other things that I personally never use. Also, you might want to change the layout to Classic under the View preferences tab. Unfortunately though, Mail will never be the same again. The best way to navigate between the Mailbox table and the Messages table is to VO+Left/right cursor keys twice. If you're in the mailbox table, VO+Cursor right twice. If you're in the messages table of a mailbox, VO+Cursor Left twice. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:41, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behaviour of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else finding this? I'm probably the only one this is annoying but anyway. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post,
Re: another mail bug or feature
Using a machine that does not have screen reader access? Have I just warped onto the Windows or Linux mailing list? HINT; Press command and F5 on any Mac and you will get a screen reader! *Sticks tongue out! Chris On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:07, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Gordon, I'm afraid I'm a demon for using generic keyboard access rather than screenreader commands when possible. I do this because if I'm on a machine with no screenreader I can still get around reasonably efficiently. I've used the VO-left/right to navigate. However to me it just seems cumbersome. I wholeheartedly agree with you about hiding favourites etc I did that right off, and also I much prefer the classic view. Cheers, Dónal On 26 Jul 2012, at 13:28, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Donal This has been the subject of much discussion. The only way I know to minimalist the change is to hide the Favourites bar and other things that I personally never use. Also, you might want to change the layout to Classic under the View preferences tab. Unfortunately though, Mail will never be the same again. The best way to navigate between the Mailbox table and the Messages table is to VO+Left/right cursor keys twice. If you're in the mailbox table, VO+Cursor right twice. If you're in the messages table of a mailbox, VO+Cursor Left twice. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:41, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behaviour of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else finding this? I'm probably the only one this is annoying but anyway. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: another mail bug or feature
*claps hands* touché that man! :-) On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:32, Chris Moore wrote: Using a machine that does not have screen reader access? Have I just warped onto the Windows or Linux mailing list? HINT; Press command and F5 on any Mac and you will get a screen reader! *Sticks tongue out! Chris On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:07, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Gordon, I'm afraid I'm a demon for using generic keyboard access rather than screenreader commands when possible. I do this because if I'm on a machine with no screenreader I can still get around reasonably efficiently. I've used the VO-left/right to navigate. However to me it just seems cumbersome. I wholeheartedly agree with you about hiding favourites etc I did that right off, and also I much prefer the classic view. Cheers, Dónal On 26 Jul 2012, at 13:28, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Donal This has been the subject of much discussion. The only way I know to minimalist the change is to hide the Favourites bar and other things that I personally never use. Also, you might want to change the layout to Classic under the View preferences tab. Unfortunately though, Mail will never be the same again. The best way to navigate between the Mailbox table and the Messages table is to VO+Left/right cursor keys twice. If you're in the mailbox table, VO+Cursor right twice. If you're in the messages table of a mailbox, VO+Cursor Left twice. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:41, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behaviour of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else finding this? I'm probably the only one this is annoying but anyway. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please
Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet
it is that's what strange at least i think it is i'll double check On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:11, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Make sure your sound card is connected in the devices list before you trash the VM. On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:01, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: guess ahve re-install my vm says it is running but no sound or anything --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Here is VMWare's Fusion compatibility FAQ [Was: Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet]
Below, I've pasted VMWare's brief (four question) FAQ regarding Fusion compatibility with Mountain Lion. This is copied directly from their blog at: http://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2012/07/vmware-fusion-and-os-x-mountain-lion-faq.html Does VMware Fusion 4 work with Mountain Lion? Yes, the latest version of VMware Fusion 4, version 4.1.3 works with Mountain Lion and is signed with our Developer ID. This makes VMware Fusion 4.1.3 compatible with Gatekeeper, a feature enabled by default in Mountain Lion. What should I do before upgrading to Mountain Lion? Ensure your copy of VMware Fusion 4 is up-to-date using VMware Fusion Check for Updates. VMware Fusion 4.1.3 is the latest available version at the time of writing. I upgraded to Mountain Lion and now VMware Fusion 4 won’t start. What happened? Mountain Lion appears to detect some older versions of VMware Fusion 4 and prevent them from launching. To resolve this issue, login to http://my.vmware.com/ (free product registration required) and download VMware Fusion 4.1.3. It can be found under “Products Downloads All Downloads VMware Fusion” Does VMware Fusion 3 work with Mountain Lion? No. VMware Fusion 3 was released in October 2009 and was optimized for Mac OS X Leopard and Snow Leopard. VMware Fusion 3 is no longer being updated for newer versions of Mac OS. Customers wishing to run VMware Fusion on Mountain Lion should use VMware Fusion 4. A free 30-day trial is available for current VMware Fusion 3 users. The trial can be found here: http://www.vmware.com/go/tryfusion --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: another mail bug or feature
Is this behavior the same with the preview pane closed? On Jul 26, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Donal This has been the subject of much discussion. The only way I know to minimalist the change is to hide the Favourites bar and other things that I personally never use. Also, you might want to change the layout to Classic under the View preferences tab. Unfortunately though, Mail will never be the same again. The best way to navigate between the Mailbox table and the Messages table is to VO+Left/right cursor keys twice. If you're in the mailbox table, VO+Cursor right twice. If you're in the messages table of a mailbox, VO+Cursor Left twice. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:41, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behaviour of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else finding this? I'm probably the only one this is annoying but anyway. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Marcy marcy.weinbe...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: another mail bug or feature
Hi Donal This changed in Mountain Lion because of changes to the functionality and the on-screen display. Yes, it is bound to get up peoples noses for a while but, I don't know whether you remember, similar changes happened when we upgraded from Tiger to Leopard, from Leopard to Snow Leopard and from Snow Leopard to Lion. yet, people very soon became accustomed to the new interface and I am sure that, given time, the same will happen again with Mountain Lion. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:16, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: probably not Gordon, but why fix something that isn't broken? If we look at how a sighted user navigates from messages to mailboxes it's a mousemovement and a click on the appropriate mailbox. Under Lion, it was one keystroke (albeit involving two keys) and the initial letters of the folder you wanted. Now: 1. stop interacting with the table; 2. VO left; 3. Vo-left; 4. interact with mailboxes table; 5. type initial letters of the mailbox. By anyone's metrics, let alone those of theoretical human-computer interaction, that's broken. Dónal On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:12, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Donal Yes, I agree with you totally on that point. I much prefer to use OS key stroke for much the same reasons. However, look at this particular problem logically. Are you really going to be using Mail without a screen-reader? Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:07, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi Gordon, I'm afraid I'm a demon for using generic keyboard access rather than screenreader commands when possible. I do this because if I'm on a machine with no screenreader I can still get around reasonably efficiently. I've used the VO-left/right to navigate. However to me it just seems cumbersome. I wholeheartedly agree with you about hiding favourites etc I did that right off, and also I much prefer the classic view. Cheers, Dónal On 26 Jul 2012, at 13:28, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Donal This has been the subject of much discussion. The only way I know to minimalist the change is to hide the Favourites bar and other things that I personally never use. Also, you might want to change the layout to Classic under the View preferences tab. Unfortunately though, Mail will never be the same again. The best way to navigate between the Mailbox table and the Messages table is to VO+Left/right cursor keys twice. If you're in the mailbox table, VO+Cursor right twice. If you're in the messages table of a mailbox, VO+Cursor Left twice. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 11:41, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, Yet another change to the Apple UI in Mountain Lion which is annoying the hell out of me is the change to the behaviour of tab or shift tab in Mail. Previously if I were on a message list I could hit shift-tab and go to the mailboxes list. Now, it takes me all over the place. Anyone else finding this? I'm probably the only one this is annoying but anyway. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
Growl and mountain lion?
Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard to system voice being used. Is there going to be a growl update soon that will resolve all of these minor issues? Also, I've noticed, especially if notification center is telling me about a dm or mention I received on twitter, that it doesn't read the whole thing. Is that fixible, or would I have to go to notification center to see the whole thing? What notification center settings are ideal for using with VO? I don't have an I Device, so all of this is extremely new to me. There's so much to learn, but on the whole, I'd have to say that I'm about 95 percent happy with Mountain Lion, and the dictation feature is a lot of fun. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have, and I hope that everyone is having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne Tracy Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:09 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Reminder about Software Partnership Hi all This seems to be a good time to point out for the benefit of new list members that we here at Mac Access Dot Net are proud to be in partnership with a number of different developers. One of the most useful tools we can offer at a discounted rate is sArchiver, the best archival tool for Mac OS X. Feel free to check it out and get discounted prices if you decide to buy this cheap but very powerful product, here: http://bitpersecond.com/bps/sarchiver_macaccessnet.html Please do not distribute this URL beyond this group. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Here is VMWare's Fusion compatibility FAQ [Was: Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet]
This just confirms what I said earlier today. You have a choice of either sticking with what you have in terms of operating systems, (if your Windows VM is really so important to you), or else upgrading to the latest version of both VMware and Mac OS X. Why some are experiencing issues I don't quite know. It's fine here and always has been. Not that we use it all that much. In fact, I am seriously thinking of just archiving our VM and storing it away somewhere to save space. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 14:37, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Below, I've pasted VMWare's brief (four question) FAQ regarding Fusion compatibility with Mountain Lion. This is copied directly from their blog at: http://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2012/07/vmware-fusion-and-os-x-mountain-lion-faq.html --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: another mail bug or feature
Hi Marcy I'm not sure since we have the preview panel disabled. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 15:02, Marcy Weinberg marcy.weinbe...@gmail.com wrote: Is this behavior the same with the preview pane closed? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Growl and mountain lion?
You may not even need growl, what with notification center. It should alert you when a notification pops up, which was what growl pretty much did. Hmm never heard of hiss. Is it free? For settings, you want to set vo to display alerts instead of banners, if it's like how it is in iOS, which I'll know more of soon. hopefully, lol. For instance, when it's set to banners, vo in iOS will say: New notification from app (where app is the name of the app) but it won't let you go to it or anything. When alerts are set up, though, vo will say: Alert! Name of app, then the notification, with a close, and a reply/launch/whatever the notification requires button. I think, but am not sure, that this is the same in Mountain Lion, with the button to view the notification always being show. Did any of that make sense? lol. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard to system voice being used. Is there going to be a growl update soon that will resolve all of these minor issues? Also, I've noticed, especially if notification center is telling me about a dm or mention I received on twitter, that it doesn't read the whole thing. Is that fixible, or would I have to go to notification center to see the whole thing? What notification center settings are ideal for using with VO? I don't have an I Device, so all of this is extremely new to me. There's so much to learn, but on the whole, I'd have to say that I'm about 95 percent happy with Mountain Lion, and the dictation feature is a lot of fun. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have, and I hope that everyone is having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne Tracy Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:09 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Reminder about Software Partnership Hi all This seems to be a good time to point out for the benefit of new list members that we here at Mac Access Dot Net are proud to be in partnership with a number of different developers. One of the most useful tools we can offer at a discounted rate is sArchiver, the best archival tool for Mac OS X. Feel free to check it out and get discounted prices if you decide to buy this cheap but very powerful product, here: http://bitpersecond.com/bps/sarchiver_macaccessnet.html Please do not distribute this URL beyond this group. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own
RE: Growl and mountain lion?
Hi! Thanks for the explanation. I'll change my settings in notification center; had it set to banners, but if alerts work better, then I'll use them instead. Notification center is awesome, but doesn't read changes in dropbox, and can't be configured to use the system voice. I've found an article, though, and it seems that a new version of growl will be coming soon. So, I'll just tough it out until then. (smile) Thanks again for your explanation, and I hope that you're having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:11 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? You may not even need growl, what with notification center. It should alert you when a notification pops up, which was what growl pretty much did. Hmm never heard of hiss. Is it free? For settings, you want to set vo to display alerts instead of banners, if it's like how it is in iOS, which I'll know more of soon. hopefully, lol. For instance, when it's set to banners, vo in iOS will say: New notification from app (where app is the name of the app) but it won't let you go to it or anything. When alerts are set up, though, vo will say: Alert! Name of app, then the notification, with a close, and a reply/launch/whatever the notification requires button. I think, but am not sure, that this is the same in Mountain Lion, with the button to view the notification always being show. Did any of that make sense? lol. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard to system voice being used. Is there going to be a growl update soon that will resolve all of these minor issues? Also, I've noticed, especially if notification center is telling me about a dm or mention I received on twitter, that it doesn't read the whole thing. Is that fixible, or would I have to go to notification center to see the whole thing? What notification center settings are ideal for using with VO? I don't have an I Device, so all of this is extremely new to me. There's so much to learn, but on the whole, I'd have to say that I'm about 95 percent happy with Mountain Lion, and the dictation feature is a lot of fun. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have, and I hope that everyone is having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne Tracy Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:09 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Reminder about Software Partnership Hi all This seems to be a good time to point out for the benefit of new list members that we here at Mac Access Dot Net are proud to be in partnership with a number of different developers. One of the most useful tools we can offer at a discounted rate is sArchiver, the best archival tool for Mac OS X. Feel free to check it out and get discounted prices if you decide to buy this cheap but very powerful product, here: http://bitpersecond.com/bps/sarchiver_macaccessnet.html Please do not distribute this URL beyond this group. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web
Any progress?
Hello thanks to Gordon for answering my question regarding changing to Mountain Lion. Is there improvement in navigating web pages especially vertical cursoring? Any improvement in accessibility of tables? Many thanks in anticipation. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Growl and mountain lion?
Hey you too! :) um... go down the list of apps in the settings in notification center. If there's one, lol. Is dropbox one of them? Yeah, alerts definitely work better. As long as you don't get a lot of iMessages to the point where it's really annoying, or anything like that, you should be fine, :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Thanks for the explanation. I'll change my settings in notification center; had it set to banners, but if alerts work better, then I'll use them instead. Notification center is awesome, but doesn't read changes in dropbox, and can't be configured to use the system voice. I've found an article, though, and it seems that a new version of growl will be coming soon. So, I'll just tough it out until then. (smile) Thanks again for your explanation, and I hope that you're having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:11 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? You may not even need growl, what with notification center. It should alert you when a notification pops up, which was what growl pretty much did. Hmm never heard of hiss. Is it free? For settings, you want to set vo to display alerts instead of banners, if it's like how it is in iOS, which I'll know more of soon. hopefully, lol. For instance, when it's set to banners, vo in iOS will say: New notification from app (where app is the name of the app) but it won't let you go to it or anything. When alerts are set up, though, vo will say: Alert! Name of app, then the notification, with a close, and a reply/launch/whatever the notification requires button. I think, but am not sure, that this is the same in Mountain Lion, with the button to view the notification always being show. Did any of that make sense? lol. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard to system voice being used. Is there going to be a growl update soon that will resolve all of these minor issues? Also, I've noticed, especially if notification center is telling me about a dm or mention I received on twitter, that it doesn't read the whole thing. Is that fixible, or would I have to go to notification center to see the whole thing? What notification center settings are ideal for using with VO? I don't have an I Device, so all of this is extremely new to me. There's so much to learn, but on the whole, I'd have to say that I'm about 95 percent happy with Mountain Lion, and the dictation feature is a lot of fun. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have, and I hope that everyone is having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne Tracy Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:09 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Reminder about Software Partnership Hi all This seems to be a good time to point out for the benefit of new list members that we here at Mac Access Dot Net are proud to be in partnership with a number of different developers. One of the most useful tools we can offer at a discounted rate is sArchiver, the best archival tool for Mac OS X. Feel free to check it out and get discounted prices if you decide to buy this cheap but very powerful
RE: Growl and mountain lion?
Nope, dropbox isn't listed. Thought I heard that notification center doesn't support 3rd party apps yet. I'll just look forward to the growl update that will probably be coming out soon. I don't use Imessage yet, so alerts shouldn't cause too much of an issue. Thanks again for your help! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:37 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hey you too! :) um... go down the list of apps in the settings in notification center. If there's one, lol. Is dropbox one of them? Yeah, alerts definitely work better. As long as you don't get a lot of iMessages to the point where it's really annoying, or anything like that, you should be fine, :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Thanks for the explanation. I'll change my settings in notification center; had it set to banners, but if alerts work better, then I'll use them instead. Notification center is awesome, but doesn't read changes in dropbox, and can't be configured to use the system voice. I've found an article, though, and it seems that a new version of growl will be coming soon. So, I'll just tough it out until then. (smile) Thanks again for your explanation, and I hope that you're having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:11 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? You may not even need growl, what with notification center. It should alert you when a notification pops up, which was what growl pretty much did. Hmm never heard of hiss. Is it free? For settings, you want to set vo to display alerts instead of banners, if it's like how it is in iOS, which I'll know more of soon. hopefully, lol. For instance, when it's set to banners, vo in iOS will say: New notification from app (where app is the name of the app) but it won't let you go to it or anything. When alerts are set up, though, vo will say: Alert! Name of app, then the notification, with a close, and a reply/launch/whatever the notification requires button. I think, but am not sure, that this is the same in Mountain Lion, with the button to view the notification always being show. Did any of that make sense? lol. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard to system voice being used. Is there going to be a growl update soon that will resolve all of these minor issues? Also, I've noticed, especially if notification center is telling me about a dm or mention I received on twitter, that it doesn't read the whole thing. Is that fixible, or would I have to go to notification center to see the whole thing? What notification center settings are ideal for using with VO? I don't have an I Device, so all of this is extremely new to me. There's so much to learn, but on the whole, I'd have to say that I'm about 95 percent happy with Mountain Lion, and the dictation feature is a lot of fun. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have, and I hope that everyone is having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne
Bento 4 VO issue under Mountain Lion [Was: Re: Bento4 Mac]
Hi Lynne, Gordon and Others, Just following up on this issue. Now that I've upgraded to Mountain Lion, you can add me to the list of folks who are stuck listening to the incessant Bento busy, Bento ready issue when launching the application. Bento was nicely accessible under Lion and I've tried some basic troubleshooting without luck, so I'll be posting to their feedback forum at http://forums.filemaker.com/groups/a13a2dc617/summary?lang=en_US Bryan On Jul 24, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Growl and mountain lion?
It's np, and I'm sure it soon will. It does in iOS, and I imagine a major update wouldn't be required, just system software update. But that I don't know, and I'm looking forward to it same as you if this is the case. Np again :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Nope, dropbox isn't listed. Thought I heard that notification center doesn't support 3rd party apps yet. I'll just look forward to the growl update that will probably be coming out soon. I don't use Imessage yet, so alerts shouldn't cause too much of an issue. Thanks again for your help! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:37 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hey you too! :) um... go down the list of apps in the settings in notification center. If there's one, lol. Is dropbox one of them? Yeah, alerts definitely work better. As long as you don't get a lot of iMessages to the point where it's really annoying, or anything like that, you should be fine, :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Thanks for the explanation. I'll change my settings in notification center; had it set to banners, but if alerts work better, then I'll use them instead. Notification center is awesome, but doesn't read changes in dropbox, and can't be configured to use the system voice. I've found an article, though, and it seems that a new version of growl will be coming soon. So, I'll just tough it out until then. (smile) Thanks again for your explanation, and I hope that you're having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:11 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? You may not even need growl, what with notification center. It should alert you when a notification pops up, which was what growl pretty much did. Hmm never heard of hiss. Is it free? For settings, you want to set vo to display alerts instead of banners, if it's like how it is in iOS, which I'll know more of soon. hopefully, lol. For instance, when it's set to banners, vo in iOS will say: New notification from app (where app is the name of the app) but it won't let you go to it or anything. When alerts are set up, though, vo will say: Alert! Name of app, then the notification, with a close, and a reply/launch/whatever the notification requires button. I think, but am not sure, that this is the same in Mountain Lion, with the button to view the notification always being show. Did any of that make sense? lol. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard to system voice being used. Is there going to be a growl update soon that will resolve all of these minor issues? Also, I've noticed, especially if notification center is telling me about a dm or mention I received on twitter, that it doesn't read the whole thing. Is that fixible, or would I have to go to notification center to see the whole thing? What notification center settings are ideal for using with VO? I don't have an I Device, so all of this is extremely new to me. There's so much to learn, but on the whole, I'd have to say that I'm about 95 percent happy with Mountain Lion,
Re: Growl and mountain lion?
Hi. I'm not sure what the problem is with Browl and DropBox, but I haven't been getting notifications for dropbox since growl 1.3 came out in the Mac App Store. Other notifications work, just not DropBox. I haven't upgraded to Mountain Lion yet and can't speak about that specifically, but maybe something similar has happened to you. Do any other growl notifications work? Justin On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard to system voice being used. Is there going to be a growl update soon that will resolve all of these minor issues? Also, I've noticed, especially if notification center is telling me about a dm or mention I received on twitter, that it doesn't read the whole thing. Is that fixible, or would I have to go to notification center to see the whole thing? What notification center settings are ideal for using with VO? I don't have an I Device, so all of this is extremely new to me. There's so much to learn, but on the whole, I'd have to say that I'm about 95 percent happy with Mountain Lion, and the dictation feature is a lot of fun. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have, and I hope that everyone is having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne Tracy Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:09 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Reminder about Software Partnership Hi all This seems to be a good time to point out for the benefit of new list members that we here at Mac Access Dot Net are proud to be in partnership with a number of different developers. One of the most useful tools we can offer at a discounted rate is sArchiver, the best archival tool for Mac OS X. Feel free to check it out and get discounted prices if you decide to buy this cheap but very powerful product, here: http://bitpersecond.com/bps/sarchiver_macaccessnet.html Please do not distribute this URL beyond this group. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at:
RE: Growl and mountain lion?
I was just getting ready to post to the list. I have no idea what changed; I didn't touch anything as far as I know, but I have the mac on and just got told about a file changing in dropbox. So, it seems as though it's actually working for the moment. I'm sure it will be a lot more stable and reliable when the new version of growl is released that is more fully integrated into notification center, but I'll enjoy it working while it lasts. As I said, I have no idea what changed; am not aware of doing anything to fix it, but I'm happy it decided to start talking again. To answer your question, though, you might want to go through the growl preferences. I actually did a mini podcast on it a few months ago, so if you're interested, let me know and I'll send you a link. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Justin Ekis Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:37 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hi. I'm not sure what the problem is with Browl and DropBox, but I haven't been getting notifications for dropbox since growl 1.3 came out in the Mac App Store. Other notifications work, just not DropBox. I haven't upgraded to Mountain Lion yet and can't speak about that specifically, but maybe something similar has happened to you. Do any other growl notifications work? Justin On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard to system voice being used. Is there going to be a growl update soon that will resolve all of these minor issues? Also, I've noticed, especially if notification center is telling me about a dm or mention I received on twitter, that it doesn't read the whole thing. Is that fixible, or would I have to go to notification center to see the whole thing? What notification center settings are ideal for using with VO? I don't have an I Device, so all of this is extremely new to me. There's so much to learn, but on the whole, I'd have to say that I'm about 95 percent happy with Mountain Lion, and the dictation feature is a lot of fun. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have, and I hope that everyone is having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne Tracy Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:09 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Reminder about Software Partnership Hi all This seems to be a good time to point out for the benefit of new list members that we here at Mac Access Dot Net are proud to be in partnership with a number of different developers. One of the most useful tools we can offer at a discounted rate is sArchiver, the best archival tool for Mac OS X. Feel free to check it out and get discounted prices if you decide to buy this cheap but very powerful product, here: http://bitpersecond.com/bps/sarchiver_macaccessnet.html Please do not distribute this URL beyond this group. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
Re: Growl and mountain lion?
Hey Missy. Maybe you can help me install it? Dropbox that is? Cause every time I launch it, there are no windows. I'll look again but I think thats what happened the last time I tried. It launches at startup with no windows, too. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I was just getting ready to post to the list. I have no idea what changed; I didn't touch anything as far as I know, but I have the mac on and just got told about a file changing in dropbox. So, it seems as though it's actually working for the moment. I'm sure it will be a lot more stable and reliable when the new version of growl is released that is more fully integrated into notification center, but I'll enjoy it working while it lasts. As I said, I have no idea what changed; am not aware of doing anything to fix it, but I'm happy it decided to start talking again. To answer your question, though, you might want to go through the growl preferences. I actually did a mini podcast on it a few months ago, so if you're interested, let me know and I'll send you a link. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Justin Ekis Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:37 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hi. I'm not sure what the problem is with Browl and DropBox, but I haven't been getting notifications for dropbox since growl 1.3 came out in the Mac App Store. Other notifications work, just not DropBox. I haven't upgraded to Mountain Lion yet and can't speak about that specifically, but maybe something similar has happened to you. Do any other growl notifications work? Justin On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard to system voice being used. Is there going to be a growl update soon that will resolve all of these minor issues? Also, I've noticed, especially if notification center is telling me about a dm or mention I received on twitter, that it doesn't read the whole thing. Is that fixible, or would I have to go to notification center to see the whole thing? What notification center settings are ideal for using with VO? I don't have an I Device, so all of this is extremely new to me. There's so much to learn, but on the whole, I'd have to say that I'm about 95 percent happy with Mountain Lion, and the dictation feature is a lot of fun. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have, and I hope that everyone is having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne Tracy Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:09 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Reminder about Software Partnership Hi all This seems to be a good time to point out for the benefit of new list members that we here at Mac Access Dot Net are proud to be in partnership with a number of different developers. One of the most useful tools we can offer at a discounted rate is sArchiver, the best archival tool for Mac OS X. Feel free to check it out and get discounted prices if you decide to buy this cheap but very powerful product, here: http://bitpersecond.com/bps/sarchiver_macaccessnet.html Please do not distribute this URL beyond this group. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to
RE: Growl and mountain lion?
Hmm. I could try. Not sure where you're running into trouble. I'll send you the link to my growl/dropbox demo. Maybe it will help. If not, I'll try to think of another way to help. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1770137/Growl%20demo.mp3 If this doesn't help, let me know. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:55 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hey Missy. Maybe you can help me install it? Dropbox that is? Cause every time I launch it, there are no windows. I'll look again but I think thats what happened the last time I tried. It launches at startup with no windows, too. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I was just getting ready to post to the list. I have no idea what changed; I didn't touch anything as far as I know, but I have the mac on and just got told about a file changing in dropbox. So, it seems as though it's actually working for the moment. I'm sure it will be a lot more stable and reliable when the new version of growl is released that is more fully integrated into notification center, but I'll enjoy it working while it lasts. As I said, I have no idea what changed; am not aware of doing anything to fix it, but I'm happy it decided to start talking again. To answer your question, though, you might want to go through the growl preferences. I actually did a mini podcast on it a few months ago, so if you're interested, let me know and I'll send you a link. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Justin Ekis Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:37 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hi. I'm not sure what the problem is with Browl and DropBox, but I haven't been getting notifications for dropbox since growl 1.3 came out in the Mac App Store. Other notifications work, just not DropBox. I haven't upgraded to Mountain Lion yet and can't speak about that specifically, but maybe something similar has happened to you. Do any other growl notifications work? Justin On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard to system voice being used. Is there going to be a growl update soon that will resolve all of these minor issues? Also, I've noticed, especially if notification center is telling me about a dm or mention I received on twitter, that it doesn't read the whole thing. Is that fixible, or would I have to go to notification center to see the whole thing? What notification center settings are ideal for using with VO? I don't have an I Device, so all of this is extremely new to me. There's so much to learn, but on the whole, I'd have to say that I'm about 95 percent happy with Mountain Lion, and the dictation feature is a lot of fun. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have, and I hope that everyone is having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne Tracy Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:09 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Reminder about Software Partnership Hi all This seems to be a good time to point out for the benefit of new list members that we here at Mac Access Dot Net are proud to be in
Re: Growl and mountain lion?
This situation is a little weird. Notification center actually does support third party apps, but only apps on the Mac App Store. Apple's Idea is to reserve certain OS X features as exclusive to the App Store, to try to convince developers to use it. As another example, only App Store apps can use iCloud features. This is why growl is still needed. Some apps can't be in the store, because of the rules for what App Store Apps are allowed to do. For those, growl notifications are still the only option. But Growl is in the store, so perhaps in a future version it can act as a bridge and pass notifications from other apps into notification center. I believe they are working on that option. On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Nope, dropbox isn't listed. Thought I heard that notification center doesn't support 3rd party apps yet. I'll just look forward to the growl update that will probably be coming out soon. I don't use Imessage yet, so alerts shouldn't cause too much of an issue. Thanks again for your help! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:37 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hey you too! :) um... go down the list of apps in the settings in notification center. If there's one, lol. Is dropbox one of them? Yeah, alerts definitely work better. As long as you don't get a lot of iMessages to the point where it's really annoying, or anything like that, you should be fine, :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Thanks for the explanation. I'll change my settings in notification center; had it set to banners, but if alerts work better, then I'll use them instead. Notification center is awesome, but doesn't read changes in dropbox, and can't be configured to use the system voice. I've found an article, though, and it seems that a new version of growl will be coming soon. So, I'll just tough it out until then. (smile) Thanks again for your explanation, and I hope that you're having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:11 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? You may not even need growl, what with notification center. It should alert you when a notification pops up, which was what growl pretty much did. Hmm never heard of hiss. Is it free? For settings, you want to set vo to display alerts instead of banners, if it's like how it is in iOS, which I'll know more of soon. hopefully, lol. For instance, when it's set to banners, vo in iOS will say: New notification from app (where app is the name of the app) but it won't let you go to it or anything. When alerts are set up, though, vo will say: Alert! Name of app, then the notification, with a close, and a reply/launch/whatever the notification requires button. I think, but am not sure, that this is the same in Mountain Lion, with the button to view the notification always being show. Did any of that make sense? lol. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard to system voice being used. Is there going to be a growl update soon that will resolve all of these minor issues? Also, I've noticed,
Re: Growl and mountain lion?
Couple things: Those growl things sound awesome!! Second, no, I'm actually having trouble installing dropbox itself. Third, how did you get the akapella voices on mac? The Ryan one's cool, Heather is too, :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hmm. I could try. Not sure where you're running into trouble. I'll send you the link to my growl/dropbox demo. Maybe it will help. If not, I'll try to think of another way to help. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1770137/Growl%20demo.mp3 If this doesn't help, let me know. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:55 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hey Missy. Maybe you can help me install it? Dropbox that is? Cause every time I launch it, there are no windows. I'll look again but I think thats what happened the last time I tried. It launches at startup with no windows, too. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I was just getting ready to post to the list. I have no idea what changed; I didn't touch anything as far as I know, but I have the mac on and just got told about a file changing in dropbox. So, it seems as though it's actually working for the moment. I'm sure it will be a lot more stable and reliable when the new version of growl is released that is more fully integrated into notification center, but I'll enjoy it working while it lasts. As I said, I have no idea what changed; am not aware of doing anything to fix it, but I'm happy it decided to start talking again. To answer your question, though, you might want to go through the growl preferences. I actually did a mini podcast on it a few months ago, so if you're interested, let me know and I'll send you a link. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Justin Ekis Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:37 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hi. I'm not sure what the problem is with Browl and DropBox, but I haven't been getting notifications for dropbox since growl 1.3 came out in the Mac App Store. Other notifications work, just not DropBox. I haven't upgraded to Mountain Lion yet and can't speak about that specifically, but maybe something similar has happened to you. Do any other growl notifications work? Justin On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard to system voice being used. Is there going to be a growl update soon that will resolve all of these minor issues? Also, I've noticed, especially if notification center is telling me about a dm or mention I received on twitter, that it doesn't read the whole thing. Is that fixible, or would I have to go to notification center to see the whole thing? What notification center settings are ideal for using with VO? I don't have an I Device, so all of this is extremely new to me. There's so much to learn, but on the whole, I'd have to say that I'm about 95 percent happy with Mountain Lion, and the dictation feature is a lot of fun. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have, and I hope that everyone is having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon, Lynne
RE: Growl and mountain lion?
You can get the acapella voices from assistiveware.com. I love them. Still use Alex for VO, but Tracy is fantastic as my default system voice. Not sure what to tell you about installing dropbox itself. I'd suggest going to their site and making sure you have the newest version. There might be install instructions on the site. If not, maybe someone will jump in and help. From what I remember, though, you copy the dropbox app into the applications folder, then you do shift ctrl option M on it to get the context menu. Then, you view package contents. I can't remember what you need to find in there, but there's an accessible installer somewhere. I've heard, though, that this step isn't necessary for the newest version of dropbox. Good luck, and I hope this helps a little. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:22 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Couple things: Those growl things sound awesome!! Second, no, I'm actually having trouble installing dropbox itself. Third, how did you get the akapella voices on mac? The Ryan one's cool, Heather is too, :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hmm. I could try. Not sure where you're running into trouble. I'll send you the link to my growl/dropbox demo. Maybe it will help. If not, I'll try to think of another way to help. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1770137/Growl%20demo.mp3 If this doesn't help, let me know. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:55 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hey Missy. Maybe you can help me install it? Dropbox that is? Cause every time I launch it, there are no windows. I'll look again but I think thats what happened the last time I tried. It launches at startup with no windows, too. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I was just getting ready to post to the list. I have no idea what changed; I didn't touch anything as far as I know, but I have the mac on and just got told about a file changing in dropbox. So, it seems as though it's actually working for the moment. I'm sure it will be a lot more stable and reliable when the new version of growl is released that is more fully integrated into notification center, but I'll enjoy it working while it lasts. As I said, I have no idea what changed; am not aware of doing anything to fix it, but I'm happy it decided to start talking again. To answer your question, though, you might want to go through the growl preferences. I actually did a mini podcast on it a few months ago, so if you're interested, let me know and I'll send you a link. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Justin Ekis Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:37 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hi. I'm not sure what the problem is with Browl and DropBox, but I haven't been getting notifications for dropbox since growl 1.3 came out in the Mac App Store. Other notifications work, just not DropBox. I haven't upgraded to Mountain Lion yet and can't speak about that specifically, but maybe something similar has happened to you. Do any other growl notifications work? Justin On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and
Re: Growl and mountain lion?
Oh I see!!! I did see something about sandboxing in the osx mountain lion thing. On 7/26/12, Justin Ekis je...@me.com wrote: This situation is a little weird. Notification center actually does support third party apps, but only apps on the Mac App Store. Apple's Idea is to reserve certain OS X features as exclusive to the App Store, to try to convince developers to use it. As another example, only App Store apps can use iCloud features. This is why growl is still needed. Some apps can't be in the store, because of the rules for what App Store Apps are allowed to do. For those, growl notifications are still the only option. But Growl is in the store, so perhaps in a future version it can act as a bridge and pass notifications from other apps into notification center. I believe they are working on that option. On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Nope, dropbox isn't listed. Thought I heard that notification center doesn't support 3rd party apps yet. I'll just look forward to the growl update that will probably be coming out soon. I don't use Imessage yet, so alerts shouldn't cause too much of an issue. Thanks again for your help! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:37 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hey you too! :) um... go down the list of apps in the settings in notification center. If there's one, lol. Is dropbox one of them? Yeah, alerts definitely work better. As long as you don't get a lot of iMessages to the point where it's really annoying, or anything like that, you should be fine, :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Thanks for the explanation. I'll change my settings in notification center; had it set to banners, but if alerts work better, then I'll use them instead. Notification center is awesome, but doesn't read changes in dropbox, and can't be configured to use the system voice. I've found an article, though, and it seems that a new version of growl will be coming soon. So, I'll just tough it out until then. (smile) Thanks again for your explanation, and I hope that you're having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:11 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? You may not even need growl, what with notification center. It should alert you when a notification pops up, which was what growl pretty much did. Hmm never heard of hiss. Is it free? For settings, you want to set vo to display alerts instead of banners, if it's like how it is in iOS, which I'll know more of soon. hopefully, lol. For instance, when it's set to banners, vo in iOS will say: New notification from app (where app is the name of the app) but it won't let you go to it or anything. When alerts are set up, though, vo will say: Alert! Name of app, then the notification, with a close, and a reply/launch/whatever the notification requires button. I think, but am not sure, that this is the same in Mountain Lion, with the button to view the notification always being show. Did any of that make sense? lol. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard
Re: Growl and mountain lion?
Just one more thing. Are the akapella voices free? On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: You can get the acapella voices from assistiveware.com. I love them. Still use Alex for VO, but Tracy is fantastic as my default system voice. Not sure what to tell you about installing dropbox itself. I'd suggest going to their site and making sure you have the newest version. There might be install instructions on the site. If not, maybe someone will jump in and help. From what I remember, though, you copy the dropbox app into the applications folder, then you do shift ctrl option M on it to get the context menu. Then, you view package contents. I can't remember what you need to find in there, but there's an accessible installer somewhere. I've heard, though, that this step isn't necessary for the newest version of dropbox. Good luck, and I hope this helps a little. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:22 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Couple things: Those growl things sound awesome!! Second, no, I'm actually having trouble installing dropbox itself. Third, how did you get the akapella voices on mac? The Ryan one's cool, Heather is too, :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hmm. I could try. Not sure where you're running into trouble. I'll send you the link to my growl/dropbox demo. Maybe it will help. If not, I'll try to think of another way to help. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1770137/Growl%20demo.mp3 If this doesn't help, let me know. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:55 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hey Missy. Maybe you can help me install it? Dropbox that is? Cause every time I launch it, there are no windows. I'll look again but I think thats what happened the last time I tried. It launches at startup with no windows, too. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I was just getting ready to post to the list. I have no idea what changed; I didn't touch anything as far as I know, but I have the mac on and just got told about a file changing in dropbox. So, it seems as though it's actually working for the moment. I'm sure it will be a lot more stable and reliable when the new version of growl is released that is more fully integrated into notification center, but I'll enjoy it working while it lasts. As I said, I have no idea what changed; am not aware of doing anything to fix it, but I'm happy it decided to start talking again. To answer your question, though, you might want to go through the growl preferences. I actually did a mini podcast on it a few months ago, so if you're interested, let me know and I'll send you a link. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Justin Ekis Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:37 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hi. I'm not sure what the problem is with Browl and DropBox, but I haven't been getting notifications for dropbox since growl 1.3 came out in the Mac App Store. Other notifications work, just not DropBox. I haven't upgraded to Mountain Lion yet and can't speak about that specifically, but maybe something similar has happened to you. Do any other growl notifications work? Justin On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be
RE: Growl and mountain lion?
Oh no no no! They're not free. I wish they were. I paid about $200 to get all of the US and UK english voices. I think they're less expensive now, but am not sure. They've changed the purchasing scheme slightly. You'll need to research it at the assistiveware site. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:33 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Just one more thing. Are the akapella voices free? On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: You can get the acapella voices from assistiveware.com. I love them. Still use Alex for VO, but Tracy is fantastic as my default system voice. Not sure what to tell you about installing dropbox itself. I'd suggest going to their site and making sure you have the newest version. There might be install instructions on the site. If not, maybe someone will jump in and help. From what I remember, though, you copy the dropbox app into the applications folder, then you do shift ctrl option M on it to get the context menu. Then, you view package contents. I can't remember what you need to find in there, but there's an accessible installer somewhere. I've heard, though, that this step isn't necessary for the newest version of dropbox. Good luck, and I hope this helps a little. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:22 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Couple things: Those growl things sound awesome!! Second, no, I'm actually having trouble installing dropbox itself. Third, how did you get the akapella voices on mac? The Ryan one's cool, Heather is too, :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hmm. I could try. Not sure where you're running into trouble. I'll send you the link to my growl/dropbox demo. Maybe it will help. If not, I'll try to think of another way to help. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1770137/Growl%20demo.mp3 If this doesn't help, let me know. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:55 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hey Missy. Maybe you can help me install it? Dropbox that is? Cause every time I launch it, there are no windows. I'll look again but I think thats what happened the last time I tried. It launches at startup with no windows, too. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I was just getting ready to post to the list. I have no idea what changed; I didn't touch anything as far as I know, but I have the mac on and just got told about a file changing in dropbox. So, it seems as though it's actually working for the moment. I'm sure it will be a lot more stable and reliable when the new version of growl is released that is more fully integrated into notification center, but I'll enjoy it working while it lasts. As I said, I have no idea what changed; am not aware of doing anything to fix it, but I'm happy it decided to start talking again. To answer your question, though, you might want to go through the growl preferences. I actually did a mini podcast on it a few months ago, so if you're interested, let me know and I'll send you a link. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Justin Ekis Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:37 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hi. I'm not sure what the problem is with Browl and DropBox, but I haven't been getting notifications for dropbox since growl 1.3 came out in the Mac App Store. Other notifications work, just not DropBox. I haven't upgraded to Mountain Lion yet and can't speak about that specifically, but maybe something similar has happened to you. Do any other growl notifications work? Justin On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox
Re: Growl and mountain lion?
Oh ok, well thanks! :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Oh no no no! They're not free. I wish they were. I paid about $200 to get all of the US and UK english voices. I think they're less expensive now, but am not sure. They've changed the purchasing scheme slightly. You'll need to research it at the assistiveware site. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:33 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Just one more thing. Are the akapella voices free? On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: You can get the acapella voices from assistiveware.com. I love them. Still use Alex for VO, but Tracy is fantastic as my default system voice. Not sure what to tell you about installing dropbox itself. I'd suggest going to their site and making sure you have the newest version. There might be install instructions on the site. If not, maybe someone will jump in and help. From what I remember, though, you copy the dropbox app into the applications folder, then you do shift ctrl option M on it to get the context menu. Then, you view package contents. I can't remember what you need to find in there, but there's an accessible installer somewhere. I've heard, though, that this step isn't necessary for the newest version of dropbox. Good luck, and I hope this helps a little. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:22 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Couple things: Those growl things sound awesome!! Second, no, I'm actually having trouble installing dropbox itself. Third, how did you get the akapella voices on mac? The Ryan one's cool, Heather is too, :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hmm. I could try. Not sure where you're running into trouble. I'll send you the link to my growl/dropbox demo. Maybe it will help. If not, I'll try to think of another way to help. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1770137/Growl%20demo.mp3 If this doesn't help, let me know. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:55 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hey Missy. Maybe you can help me install it? Dropbox that is? Cause every time I launch it, there are no windows. I'll look again but I think thats what happened the last time I tried. It launches at startup with no windows, too. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: I was just getting ready to post to the list. I have no idea what changed; I didn't touch anything as far as I know, but I have the mac on and just got told about a file changing in dropbox. So, it seems as though it's actually working for the moment. I'm sure it will be a lot more stable and reliable when the new version of growl is released that is more fully integrated into notification center, but I'll enjoy it working while it lasts. As I said, I have no idea what changed; am not aware of doing anything to fix it, but I'm happy it decided to start talking again. To answer your question, though, you might want to go through the growl preferences. I actually did a mini podcast on it a few months ago, so if you're interested, let me know and I'll send you a link. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Justin Ekis Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:37 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hi. I'm not sure what the problem is with Browl and DropBox, but I haven't been getting notifications for dropbox since growl 1.3 came out in the Mac App Store. Other notifications work, just not DropBox. I haven't upgraded to Mountain Lion yet and can't speak about that specifically, but maybe something similar has happened to you. Do any other growl notifications work? Justin On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have
Re: Any progress?
There was nothing mentioned about these in mountain lion, personally I don't see what else could really be done, navigation works fine on the web. On Jul 26, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Christo Thiardt wrote: Hello thanks to Gordon for answering my question regarding changing to Mountain Lion. Is there improvement in navigating web pages especially vertical cursoring? Any improvement in accessibility of tables? Many thanks in anticipation. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
dropbox and lion
Hi all, I've just tried to install and run dropbox on lion. the issue is, dropbox opens, but has no windows to interact with. how do I get around this so I can login and start using dropbox? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: dropbox and lion
um... idk i've had that too :( On 7/26/12, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote: the thing is, it's still running in the background even now, and can't even find a process to kill it so I can start again On 27/07/2012, at 11:16 AM, josh gregory wrote: See thats what I meant :) I think if you do a show package contents on dropbox there might be an accessible installer there. Going off Missy's instructions but that's all I can think of. Either that or make sure you have the latest version. On 7/26/12, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I've just tried to install and run dropbox on lion. the issue is, dropbox opens, but has no windows to interact with. how do I get around this so I can login and start using dropbox? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: dropbox and lion
the thing is, it's still running in the background even now, and can't even find a process to kill it so I can start again On 27/07/2012, at 11:16 AM, josh gregory wrote: See thats what I meant :) I think if you do a show package contents on dropbox there might be an accessible installer there. Going off Missy's instructions but that's all I can think of. Either that or make sure you have the latest version. On 7/26/12, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I've just tried to install and run dropbox on lion. the issue is, dropbox opens, but has no windows to interact with. how do I get around this so I can login and start using dropbox? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: dropbox and lion
Hi Josh and Shaun, If you search the archives at the Mail Archive site by typing dropbox no windows in the text search box and pressing return, it will immediately bring up Gordon's post from a week and a half ago, about the solution to this as the first link: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg11029.html Since I don't want to retype everything in his post, I'll just summarize that after you kill the process in Activity Monitor, you need to delete the application from your Applications folder and restart your machine. Then you should do a new installation from the dmg image. The restart kills the background process. If you do the new install by opening the disk image -- without trying to move it to any other folder, just open it wherever you downloaded it, it should install properly and you'll be able to use Dropbox. No need to show package contents or anything else. HTH. Cheers, Esther --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: dropbox and lion
Have to turn it off in activity monitor. It's strange it would just run without your log in credentials. Have you ever ran dropbox on that machine in the past? If so then it maybe have been retained in your log in items thus it's logged in. If so then share a file and see if recipient sees it at at some point because if it logs in it will show your folder in dropbox in your finder Just interact in sidebar and probably will have to move up and it will say it then check by interacting into the browser and the folders will be there. Put a test file in one if you have a mutual folder with some one or have another computer such as a windows machine with dropbox it will show up at some point depending on how fast it sinks up and refreshes. On Jul 26, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote: the thing is, it's still running in the background even now, and can't even find a process to kill it so I can start again On 27/07/2012, at 11:16 AM, josh gregory wrote: See thats what I meant :) I think if you do a show package contents on dropbox there might be an accessible installer there. Going off Missy's instructions but that's all I can think of. Either that or make sure you have the latest version. On 7/26/12, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I've just tried to install and run dropbox on lion. the issue is, dropbox opens, but has no windows to interact with. how do I get around this so I can login and start using dropbox? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: dropbox and lion
thanks for this, I'll give it a go. On 27/07/2012, at 11:41 AM, mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi Josh and Shaun, If you search the archives at the Mail Archive site by typing dropbox no windows in the text search box and pressing return, it will immediately bring up Gordon's post from a week and a half ago, about the solution to this as the first link: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg11029.html Since I don't want to retype everything in his post, I'll just summarize that after you kill the process in Activity Monitor, you need to delete the application from your Applications folder and restart your machine. Then you should do a new installation from the dmg image. The restart kills the background process. If you do the new install by opening the disk image -- without trying to move it to any other folder, just open it wherever you downloaded it, it should install properly and you'll be able to use Dropbox. No need to show package contents or anything else. HTH. Cheers, Esther --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: dropbox and lion
Hi, what Gordon suggested worked for me. Activity monitor was a bit tricky at first, but easy enough to figure out. On 7/26/12, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for this, I'll give it a go. On 27/07/2012, at 11:41 AM, mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi Josh and Shaun, If you search the archives at the Mail Archive site by typing dropbox no windows in the text search box and pressing return, it will immediately bring up Gordon's post from a week and a half ago, about the solution to this as the first link: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg11029.html Since I don't want to retype everything in his post, I'll just summarize that after you kill the process in Activity Monitor, you need to delete the application from your Applications folder and restart your machine. Then you should do a new installation from the dmg image. The restart kills the background process. If you do the new install by opening the disk image -- without trying to move it to any other folder, just open it wherever you downloaded it, it should install properly and you'll be able to use Dropbox. No need to show package contents or anything else. HTH. Cheers, Esther --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: dropbox and lion
I went and found the pid and killed it in the terminal having had some *nix background. I wasn't sure how to use activity monitor to disable it. I now have it running, but, not sure where things are after that. no matter, some poking around should help me thinks. On 27/07/2012, at 1:18 PM, josh gregory wrote: Hi, what Gordon suggested worked for me. Activity monitor was a bit tricky at first, but easy enough to figure out. On 7/26/12, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for this, I'll give it a go. On 27/07/2012, at 11:41 AM, mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi Josh and Shaun, If you search the archives at the Mail Archive site by typing dropbox no windows in the text search box and pressing return, it will immediately bring up Gordon's post from a week and a half ago, about the solution to this as the first link: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg11029.html Since I don't want to retype everything in his post, I'll just summarize that after you kill the process in Activity Monitor, you need to delete the application from your Applications folder and restart your machine. Then you should do a new installation from the dmg image. The restart kills the background process. If you do the new install by opening the disk image -- without trying to move it to any other folder, just open it wherever you downloaded it, it should install properly and you'll be able to use Dropbox. No need to show package contents or anything else. HTH. Cheers, Esther --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
iPhone calendar
Hi All, I am having problems entering a calendar event. Every time I get so far into an entry, it closes the calendar, usually when I try to set it as an all day event. Is there a way to set a calendar event by speaking to the phone? Normally, I dislike talking to my phone for such things, but this is very frustrating. I have an iPhone 4. Thanks for any help. Glenn --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
videos on the i-phone
is there a way of easily navigating eppisodes of a video on the i-phone 4? i ask because i have managed to find some classic doctor who on i-tunes only the eppisode numbers and years are read out so i have to go through the videos in order to find the next eppisode to a story. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bento 4 VO issue under Mountain Lion [Was: Re: Bento4 Mac]
Hi Bryan This is very, very interesting indeed. I'm sorry that you're having problems, but on the other hand I'm glad it's not only me who is. I couldn't talk about it at the time in as much detail as I would have liked. But yes, I was running Mountain Lion when Lynne first reported this problem. I will contact FileMaker directly myself, and also Apple. Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 21:05, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Hi Lynne, Gordon and Others, Just following up on this issue. Now that I've upgraded to Mountain Lion, you can add me to the list of folks who are stuck listening to the incessant Bento busy, Bento ready issue when launching the application. Bento was nicely accessible under Lion and I've tried some basic troubleshooting without luck, so I'll be posting to their feedback forum at http://forums.filemaker.com/groups/a13a2dc617/summary?lang=en_US Bryan On Jul 24, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Any progress?
Actually, I find that I can sometimes vertically manipulate tables. It depends very much on how the web table is constructed. Where VoiceOver does have a massive weakness which I reported to Apple a very long time ago, is with sites that use Ajax. VoiceOver users struggle on such sites, which is why I personally believe that the Take Control service we offer is so valuable to our members. That site uses Ajax and although I've discussed this several times with Adam and been promised that they're going to switch to a new website any day now, months later it still hasn't happened. Neither, I'm sorry to say, did Apple bother to acknowledge my bug report, let alone fix it. Disappointing in some ways, but it's important to keep banging heads together about accessibility. Otherwise, we all get nowhere. I don't agree with the comment below regarding nothing else that can be done. Accessibility still has some way to go. yes, many and possibly even most sites do work well. But there are some sites which, although visually attractive and very accessible under other operating systems, just don't behave predictably or even at all with VoiceOver. Gordon On 27 Jul 2012, at 02:02, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: There was nothing mentioned about these in mountain lion, personally I don't see what else could really be done, navigation works fine on the web. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: dropbox and lion
Now that you've ran the application once, you'll need to remove it from your log-in items. Then, reboot the machine and delete the application from /applications. Then, reopen the disk image and run the app from there. Do not, I say again, do not copy the app to /applications yourself. Once you do this you should find it works. Gordon On 27 Jul 2012, at 02:23, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I've just tried to install and run dropbox on lion. the issue is, dropbox opens, but has no windows to interact with. how do I get around this so I can login and start using dropbox? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: iPhone calendar
Hi Glenn How are you? Have you by any chance a Mac with Mountain Lion on it? One way to get around this would be to enter the calendar event into the Calendar in Mountain Lion by pressing Command with N and adding it as a quick event, then it will automatically go to your phone. Take care Paula -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Friday, 27 July 2012 2:18 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: iPhone calendar Hi All, I am having problems entering a calendar event. Every time I get so far into an entry, it closes the calendar, usually when I try to set it as an all day event. Is there a way to set a calendar event by speaking to the phone? Normally, I dislike talking to my phone for such things, but this is very frustrating. I have an iPhone 4. Thanks for any help. Glenn --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
dropbox notifications was Re: Growl and mountain lion?
Notification center supports apps like groupon, instacast, woot, amazon, etc. Why wouldn't it support dropbox notification? - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 2:04 PM Subject: RE: Growl and mountain lion? Nope, dropbox isn't listed. Thought I heard that notification center doesn't support 3rd party apps yet. I'll just look forward to the growl update that will probably be coming out soon. I don't use Imessage yet, so alerts shouldn't cause too much of an issue. Thanks again for your help! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:37 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? Hey you too! :) um... go down the list of apps in the settings in notification center. If there's one, lol. Is dropbox one of them? Yeah, alerts definitely work better. As long as you don't get a lot of iMessages to the point where it's really annoying, or anything like that, you should be fine, :) On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Thanks for the explanation. I'll change my settings in notification center; had it set to banners, but if alerts work better, then I'll use them instead. Notification center is awesome, but doesn't read changes in dropbox, and can't be configured to use the system voice. I've found an article, though, and it seems that a new version of growl will be coming soon. So, I'll just tough it out until then. (smile) Thanks again for your explanation, and I hope that you're having a great day! Missy -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of josh gregory Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:11 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Growl and mountain lion? You may not even need growl, what with notification center. It should alert you when a notification pops up, which was what growl pretty much did. Hmm never heard of hiss. Is it free? For settings, you want to set vo to display alerts instead of banners, if it's like how it is in iOS, which I'll know more of soon. hopefully, lol. For instance, when it's set to banners, vo in iOS will say: New notification from app (where app is the name of the app) but it won't let you go to it or anything. When alerts are set up, though, vo will say: Alert! Name of app, then the notification, with a close, and a reply/launch/whatever the notification requires button. I think, but am not sure, that this is the same in Mountain Lion, with the button to view the notification always being show. Did any of that make sense? lol. On 7/26/12, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I installed Mountain Lion last night, and on the whole, I'm very impressed. My bootcamp wasn't affected in the slightest, which was a huge relief. Since I was never all that fond of lion, I figured I had very little to lose by upgrading right away. Anyway, I know there are a lot of things I still need to learn, but the only major problem I've run into so far is that growl notifications aren't spoken as they were. I'm not sure if there will be a growl update released to fix this, or what the deal is. The notifications I'm mostly interested in getting back are when files are added, deleted or changed in dropbox. Granted, I do most things on my PC, but if I happened to have the mac on as well, it was handy to hear acapella Tracy informing me of dropbox changes. I'm very happy that the Acapella voices are still working. I use Alex for Voiceover stuff, but Tracy is my system voice, and I'm happy that didn't have to change. If anyone could shed some light on the situation with growl, that would be great. On a similar note, I'm wondering if there's any way to configure notification center to use the system voice? Sometimes, if I'm reading something else, notifications aren't read, so if it's possible to configure it to use the system voice, that would be helpful. Also, has anyone tried this little program called Hiss? It supposedly bridges the gap between growl and notification center, but so far, I haven't been impressed with its performance, especially since it doesn't honor growl settings with regard to system voice being used. Is there going to be a growl update soon that will resolve all of these minor issues? Also, I've noticed, especially if notification center is telling me about a dm or mention I received on twitter, that it doesn't read the whole thing. Is that fixible, or would I have to go to notification center to see the whole thing? What notification center settings are ideal for using with VO? I don't have an I Device, so all of this is extremely new to me. There's so much to learn, but on the whole, I'd have to say that I'm about 95 percent happy with Mountain Lion, and the dictation
