Re: Burning ML to SD card.
Hi Geoff Just out of interest, do you happen to have a thumb drive or external hard drive on which you could try this test? As for that Lion Diskmaker, I think it was just written by somebody who has far too much time on their hands. :) Gordon On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:02, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: I copied the InstallESD.dmg file to my desktop and inserted an 8GB SD card. Next, I launched disk utility and in the delete tab selected macOS journaled. All appeared to have gone well up to this point; I have an empty 7.8 GB partition. Next, I went into the restore tab, and here's where it gets weird. I can copy/paste the file from the desktop into the source field, but then when I attempt to drag/drop the SD partition into the target field, the target remains empty, and the InstallESD.dmg is replaced with the name of the SD partition that I intend to be the target. I'm assuming that I'm missing a step, or that there's a trick to this, since it worked fine when I was creating the Lion DVD. Can anyone suggest a work-around, or do I need to grab that Lion Disk Maker app that Sarah mentioned? TIA and best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: can not burn ml
Hi Josh Right, I'm with you now. No, the two are independent applications although yes, you can access Disk Utility via the menu structure from within the recovery tool, just as you can from within the Mac OS X installer utility. But, if it's too much hassle to go to the Utilities folder to access disk utility, how about just using the Mac OS X Finder shortcut, Command+Shift+U, then hitting D which will highlight Disk Utility. Then just open it by pressing either Command+O or Command+Down-Arrow. Like Windows in some respects, there are several ways of doing these things with Mac OS X. Gordon Gordon On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:22, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I know you didn't... what I meant was this: Through the recovery tool, you can access disc utility. You can also access it, though, in the utilities folder. When you menntioned the recovery tool, I thought you meant using disc utility in that. Maybe you didn't, :) On 8/2/12, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Josh I'm not quite sure what this was in reply too. The below doesn't quite seem to make sense to me. I never mentioned disk utility at all. Gordon On 2 Aug 2012, at 21:30, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Gordon: If you mean disc utility, you don't have to go through the trouble of the extra startup steps, it is in the utilities folder and as I found out today it can be copied to the apps folder for easier access. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: can not burn ml
Didn't even know that command existed! Ah, the joys of being a newbee... :) so, ok, now that we're on the same page, how would burning a copy to a thumb drive be done? Thanks! On 8/3/12, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Josh Right, I'm with you now. No, the two are independent applications although yes, you can access Disk Utility via the menu structure from within the recovery tool, just as you can from within the Mac OS X installer utility. But, if it's too much hassle to go to the Utilities folder to access disk utility, how about just using the Mac OS X Finder shortcut, Command+Shift+U, then hitting D which will highlight Disk Utility. Then just open it by pressing either Command+O or Command+Down-Arrow. Like Windows in some respects, there are several ways of doing these things with Mac OS X. Gordon Gordon On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:22, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I know you didn't... what I meant was this: Through the recovery tool, you can access disc utility. You can also access it, though, in the utilities folder. When you menntioned the recovery tool, I thought you meant using disc utility in that. Maybe you didn't, :) On 8/2/12, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Josh I'm not quite sure what this was in reply too. The below doesn't quite seem to make sense to me. I never mentioned disk utility at all. Gordon On 2 Aug 2012, at 21:30, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Gordon: If you mean disc utility, you don't have to go through the trouble of the extra startup steps, it is in the utilities folder and as I found out today it can be copied to the apps folder for easier access. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at:
Shut down sound
Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: can not burn ml
Hello Gordon and all for education's sake whereabouts in the menus is Disk Utility? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 10:06 AM Subject: Re: can not burn ml Hi Josh Right, I'm with you now. No, the two are independent applications although yes, you can access Disk Utility via the menu structure from within the recovery tool, just as you can from within the Mac OS X installer utility. But, if it's too much hassle to go to the Utilities folder to access disk utility, how about just using the Mac OS X Finder shortcut, Command+Shift+U, then hitting D which will highlight Disk Utility. Then just open it by pressing either Command+O or Command+Down-Arrow. Like Windows in some respects, there are several ways of doing these things with Mac OS X. Gordon Gordon On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:22, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: I know you didn't... what I meant was this: Through the recovery tool, you can access disc utility. You can also access it, though, in the utilities folder. When you menntioned the recovery tool, I thought you meant using disc utility in that. Maybe you didn't, :) On 8/2/12, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Josh I'm not quite sure what this was in reply too. The below doesn't quite seem to make sense to me. I never mentioned disk utility at all. Gordon On 2 Aug 2012, at 21:30, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Gordon: If you mean disc utility, you don't have to go through the trouble of the extra startup steps, it is in the utilities folder and as I found out today it can be copied to the apps folder for easier access. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: can not burn ml
Hi Josh Firstly, Josh, from the Finder you can press Command+Shift+A to open the /applications folder. Command+Shift+U will open the /applications/utilities folder. There are a number of other shortcuts, (Found in System PreverencesKeyboardShortcuts. If you use the recovery tool, it gathers the information from whatever OS you happen to have installed. So, although it says it is a Lion Recovery tool, it actually works fine on Mountain Lion. So really, I do not understand why people are finding it so hard. :) Just run the recovery tool, point it to where you want your drive created and it copies the OS, block by block on a sector-level so it erases everything on your recovery destination drive. You do not even need to have the installDVD.dmg on your system. I hope that makes things more clear. Now, for those who might want the recovery tool, I will repost the link to it on our dropbox: No need for Lion Diskmaker or anything additional. I gather from what I've read on MacWorld, you can also use this to write the recovery disk to a flash card. Again, it's done at a block level so you shouldn't, although it's probably a good ideas to, partition your drive as Guide Partition in advance. You can find the tool here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22572701/RecoveryDiskAssistant.dmg Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 12:52, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't even know that command existed! Ah, the joys of being a newbee... :) so, ok, now that we're on the same page, how would burning a copy to a thumb drive be done? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: can not burn ml
Sort of... I guess it's a thing I'll have to look at to understand. On 8/3/12, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Josh Firstly, Josh, from the Finder you can press Command+Shift+A to open the /applications folder. Command+Shift+U will open the /applications/utilities folder. There are a number of other shortcuts, (Found in System PreverencesKeyboardShortcuts. If you use the recovery tool, it gathers the information from whatever OS you happen to have installed. So, although it says it is a Lion Recovery tool, it actually works fine on Mountain Lion. So really, I do not understand why people are finding it so hard. :) Just run the recovery tool, point it to where you want your drive created and it copies the OS, block by block on a sector-level so it erases everything on your recovery destination drive. You do not even need to have the installDVD.dmg on your system. I hope that makes things more clear. Now, for those who might want the recovery tool, I will repost the link to it on our dropbox: No need for Lion Diskmaker or anything additional. I gather from what I've read on MacWorld, you can also use this to write the recovery disk to a flash card. Again, it's done at a block level so you shouldn't, although it's probably a good ideas to, partition your drive as Guide Partition in advance. You can find the tool here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22572701/RecoveryDiskAssistant.dmg Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 12:52, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't even know that command existed! Ah, the joys of being a newbee... :) so, ok, now that we're on the same page, how would burning a copy to a thumb drive be done? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shut down sound
Hi Josh and Chris No, this cannot be done. But personally, I don't think it's really an issue. Maybe it's just that I've grown so accustomed to Mac OS, or maybe it's just my in-built dislike of Windows. I use it because I have too now and then, and it looks as though I'll have too for work, at least in the short term. But to get back to the question in hand, the simple answer is no, unless there's a separate utility which can create some kind of script to access a sound file when the OS is closing down. But I rout it. Somebody else may know differently, we shall see. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 13:59, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Thanks: Using an iPad 2 - really new to this
Hello, I just wanted to say thanks very much for all of your great answers. The feedback about changing to touch typing was especially helpful, as well as the direct link to read the user manual in my own web browser. Your responses have increased my confidence that I'll be an expert someday... or at least a darn good user. Mary --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Loun/Mountain Lion Recovery Tool
Hello Josh On 3 Aug 2012, at 14:01, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Sort of... I guess it's a thing I'll have to look at to understand. Which part of my explanation is unclear to you? I thought I explained it reasonably well but, if not, plead do let me know. By the way, in my previous post I miss-spelled System Preferences, and missed the error. So just in case anybody is looking for what I said earlier, it doesn't exist. :) What I meant to say was System PreferencesKeyboard. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Thanks: Using an iPad 2 - really new to this
Hello Mary This is precisely why this list exists. If one person gets the help they need from us as a group, then it's worth while. I will write to you off list, (again), and I hope we can help you to achieve that expertise you desire. ;-) Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 14:16, Mary Stores msto...@indiana.edu wrote: Hello, I just wanted to say thanks very much for all of your great answers. The feedback about changing to touch typing was especially helpful, as well as the direct link to read the user manual in my own web browser. Your responses have increased my confidence that I'll be an expert someday... or at least a darn good user. Mary --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
unlocking system preferences
under Users and Groups in system preferences, (and elsewhere) many setting fields are dimmed and there is a button and a check box towards the end that says click the lock to make changes. Clicking (VO-space) on either the button or the checkbox brings up another window with a name and password field. I enter my password - the name is prefilled - but then there is no button or anything to continue. Those are the only two fields, and there is no continue button. So, I'm stuck there and don't know how to continue to unlock the preferences so I can make changes. This one has got me stumped! I'm completely new to Mac and VO and at this point, I'm just exploring the Mac OS X system and basic VO functionality. Thanks for any help you can give with this one. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: unlocking system preferences
Once you fill in your password, press enter. On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: under Users and Groups in system preferences, (and elsewhere) many setting fields are dimmed and there is a button and a check box towards the end that says click the lock to make changes. Clicking (VO-space) on either the button or the checkbox brings up another window with a name and password field. I enter my password - the name is prefilled - but then there is no button or anything to continue. Those are the only two fields, and there is no continue button. So, I'm stuck there and don't know how to continue to unlock the preferences so I can make changes. This one has got me stumped! I'm completely new to Mac and VO and at this point, I'm just exploring the Mac OS X system and basic VO functionality. Thanks for any help you can give with this one. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Marcy marcy.weinbe...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: unlocking system preferences
Hi PHil, In addition to Marcy Stuart's suggestion of pressing the Enter key, also known as the Return key, you also have the option to stop interacting with the UserName / Password section of that particular dialog box by pressing VO+Shift+Up Arrow. This will allow you to navigate the rest of that dialog box using standard VO commands . It's sort of like taking the long way 'round, but as a new VO User I think you might find it helpful to try it once as it might give you a better feel for the full layout of that particular authentication dialog box, as it is one you will encounter frequently. After you stop interacting, press VO+left or Right Arrow keys and you'll find the cancel and unlock buttons, a brief text description explaining the purpose of the dialog box, and an element labeled Scroll area. The scroll area is actually the section that contains the User Name and Password fields, and you can interact with it again by pressing VO+Shift+Down Arrow. HTH, Bryan On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:39 AM, stuart young stuartyo...@samobile.net wrote: Once you have typed in your name and password, if you just press the enter key, this will unlock the system preferences pain for you. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shut down sound
Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shut down sound
I don't see why one would be needed, from what I've seen with almost every mac I've used it shuts down almost instantly. -Original Message- From: Gordon Smith Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 09:12 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Shut down sound Hi Josh and Chris No, this cannot be done. But personally, I don't think it's really an issue. Maybe it's just that I've grown so accustomed to Mac OS, or maybe it's just my in-built dislike of Windows. I use it because I have too now and then, and it looks as though I'll have too for work, at least in the short term. But to get back to the question in hand, the simple answer is no, unless there's a separate utility which can create some kind of script to access a sound file when the OS is closing down. But I rout it. Somebody else may know differently, we shall see. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 13:59, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Shut down sound
In practice I have not found this to be a problem as generally the Mac shuts down a lot quicker. ON my IMac I do not shut down but morally put it to sleep with command option escape and it is startlingly quick, pretty much instantaneous really , I can tell the screen just goes black in a blink. . I am not sure how your Mac Book will compare. If I need to restart the system the Mac does naked a system sounds as it reboots. This is pretty much all I need - instant shut down through sleep and a reboot on the odd occasion for which there are existing sound indicators. What I do find difficult is using the option key to enter boot camp or recovery disc or external drive boot . I cannot see when the menu when boot options comes up so I end up having to count up to 30 and even then I might find myself going back into Mac OS by mistake. It would be great if there was a second system sound when you get to option boot menu. David Griffith the -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: 03 August 2012 16:22 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Shut down sound Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: Shut down sound
Hi, if you listen you can hear the fan turn off when it shuts down. Or maybe thats the processor, idk. And yeah it does usually shut down pretty quick. On 8/3/12, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: In practice I have not found this to be a problem as generally the Mac shuts down a lot quicker. ON my IMac I do not shut down but morally put it to sleep with command option escape and it is startlingly quick, pretty much instantaneous really , I can tell the screen just goes black in a blink. . I am not sure how your Mac Book will compare. If I need to restart the system the Mac does naked a system sounds as it reboots. This is pretty much all I need - instant shut down through sleep and a reboot on the odd occasion for which there are existing sound indicators. What I do find difficult is using the option key to enter boot camp or recovery disc or external drive boot . I cannot see when the menu when boot options comes up so I end up having to count up to 30 and even then I might find myself going back into Mac OS by mistake. It would be great if there was a second system sound when you get to option boot menu. David Griffith the -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: 03 August 2012 16:22 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Shut down sound Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed
Re: Burning ML to SD card.
Hi Esther, Gordon and others, I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB connected media. Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition type in the delete dialog of Disk Utility. After more experimentation I decided that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's restore dialog is inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired media to the target field. I tried opening the InstallESD.dmg file and selecting the resulting mounted volume, to no avail. I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot properly, so ML should be installed later today. It sounds as though the recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well. Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 4:01 AM Subject: Re: Burning ML to SD card. Hi Geoff Just out of interest, do you happen to have a thumb drive or external hard drive on which you could try this test? As for that Lion Diskmaker, I think it was just written by somebody who has far too much time on their hands. :) Gordon On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:02, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: I copied the to my desktop and inserted an 8GB SD card. Next, I launched disk utility and in the delete tab selected macOS journaled. All appeared to have gone well up to this point; I have an empty 7.8 GB partition. Next, I went into the restore tab, and here's where it gets weird. I can copy/paste the file from the desktop into the source field, but then when I attempt to drag/drop the SD partition into the target field, the target remains empty, and the InstallESD.dmg is replaced with the name of the SD partition that I intend to be the target. I'm assuming that I'm missing a step, or that there's a trick to this, since it worked fine when I was creating the Lion DVD. Can anyone suggest a work-around, or do I need to grab that Lion Disk Maker app that Sarah mentioned? TIA and best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: unlocking system preferences
When you enter your password, hit return in the same window. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 15:33, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: under Users and Groups in system preferences, (and elsewhere) many setting fields are dimmed and there is a button and a check box towards the end that says click the lock to make changes. Clicking (VO-space) on either the button or the checkbox brings up another window with a name and password field. I enter my password - the name is prefilled - but then there is no button or anything to continue. Those are the only two fields, and there is no continue button. So, I'm stuck there and don't know how to continue to unlock the preferences so I can make changes. This one has got me stumped! I'm completely new to Mac and VO and at this point, I'm just exploring the Mac OS X system and basic VO functionality. Thanks for any help you can give with this one. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shut down sound
Hi Chris My only suggestion is that you can feel the fan and HD activity until your machine is shut down. No, VoiceOver often goes down some time before the machine because the OS does a bit of housekeeping before it closes. If you use the system shortcut, Command+Option+Control+Eject, unless there are operating system windows open which require user intervention, your machine will usually shut down of its own accord. If you use the system shortcut Command+Control+Eject, the machine will usually restart of its own accord unless there are user windows open which require intervention. Sometimes, even those windows are closed by the operating system. An example of one which usually does not close is iTunes prompting you to enter information. I hope some of that was useful. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 16:21, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shut down sound
Hello David and all so could I put the mac computer to sleep at all times then when I need to use it wake it up? If so when should one fully shut down the system if at all? Thanks! - Original Message - From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 4:37 PM Subject: RE: Shut down sound In practice I have not found this to be a problem as generally the Mac shuts down a lot quicker. ON my IMac I do not shut down but morally put it to sleep with command option escape and it is startlingly quick, pretty much instantaneous really , I can tell the screen just goes black in a blink. . I am not sure how your Mac Book will compare. If I need to restart the system the Mac does naked a system sounds as it reboots. This is pretty much all I need - instant shut down through sleep and a reboot on the odd occasion for which there are existing sound indicators. What I do find difficult is using the option key to enter boot camp or recovery disc or external drive boot . I cannot see when the menu when boot options comes up so I end up having to count up to 30 and even then I might find myself going back into Mac OS by mistake. It would be great if there was a second system sound when you get to option boot menu. David Griffith the -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: 03 August 2012 16:22 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Shut down sound Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail
Re: Shut down sound
My mac which is the late 2009 model shuts down so fast it cuts voiceover off all the time, it's near instant. -Original Message- From: chris hallsworth Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 11:21 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Shut down sound Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Burning ML to SD card.
Hi Geoff If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a Partition tab. There is an Options button just before the two cancel and OK buttons. Pressing that will bring up a table of different partition types. In that table just select the Guide partition type radio button and click OK. Then, click Apply and then click Partition. Your partition will then be created. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Esther, Gordon and others, I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB connected media. Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition type in the delete dialog of Disk Utility. After more experimentation I decided that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's restore dialog is inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired media to the target field. I tried opening the InstallESD.dmg file and selecting the resulting mounted volume, to no avail. I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot properly, so ML should be installed later today. It sounds as though the recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well. Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 4:01 AM Subject: Re: Burning ML to SD card. Hi Geoff Just out of interest, do you happen to have a thumb drive or external hard drive on which you could try this test? As for that Lion Diskmaker, I think it was just written by somebody who has far too much time on their hands. :) Gordon On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:02, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: I copied the to my desktop and inserted an 8GB SD card. Next, I launched disk utility and in the delete tab selected macOS journaled. All appeared to have gone well up to this point; I have an empty 7.8 GB partition. Next, I went into the restore tab, and here's where it gets weird. I can copy/paste the file from the desktop into the source field, but then when I attempt to drag/drop the SD partition into the target field, the target remains empty, and the InstallESD.dmg is replaced with the name of the SD partition that I intend to be the target. I'm assuming that I'm missing a step, or that there's a trick to this, since it worked fine when I was creating the Lion DVD. Can anyone suggest a work-around, or do I need to grab that Lion Disk Maker app that Sarah mentioned? TIA and best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply
Re: formatting partitions
Josh In order to do this, see my previous message. I think the explanation is adequate. If you need more by all means get back to me on or off list. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:13, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi; I created a 200gb partition on the macentosh hd drive for time machine which I now want to get rid of. I tried erasing it in disc utility but it won't go away. Is it necessary to format it before I erase and if so how? I talked to an acquaintance and was told that I have to select the drive, and then go into the toolbar and format it that way. But I can't seem to find the toolbar, lol. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Josh -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shut down sound
Chris, you could, but if it's a laptop be aware that it'll eventually need charging. On 8/3/12, Mike Welty ratta...@gmail.com wrote: My mac which is the late 2009 model shuts down so fast it cuts voiceover off all the time, it's near instant. -Original Message- From: chris hallsworth Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 11:21 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Shut down sound Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is
Re: Shut down sound
Also we should factor in that Mac has a fast shutdown. It's a lot faster than my Windows xp. It's even faster if you do the control option command eject method of shutdown. On Aug 3, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Josh and Chris No, this cannot be done. But personally, I don't think it's really an issue. Maybe it's just that I've grown so accustomed to Mac OS, or maybe it's just my in-built dislike of Windows. I use it because I have too now and then, and it looks as though I'll have too for work, at least in the short term. But to get back to the question in hand, the simple answer is no, unless there's a separate utility which can create some kind of script to access a sound file when the OS is closing down. But I rout it. Somebody else may know differently, we shall see. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 13:59, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shut down sound
lol. Mine often takes about 15 to 30 seconds to shut down but I listen for all of my 3 or 4 hard drives to stop spinning and i know everything is shut down successfully. Take care. On Aug 3, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Mike Welty ratta...@gmail.com wrote: My mac which is the late 2009 model shuts down so fast it cuts voiceover off all the time, it's near instant. -Original Message- From: chris hallsworth Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 11:21 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Shut down sound Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed
Re: can not burn ml
The recovery tool is nice, how ever, if you run that you will need to download the ml from the app store and if you are installing it on early 2008 macs that will not work as in the cse of my friend who tried and it said your system is not compatible. On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Josh Are you talking about a USB thumb drive or a SD card? I would presume the former. If you use the recovery tool, you'll have no trouble. I think this one is just one instance where people sometimes make it more difficult for themselves, purely unintentionally, of course. :) But yes, by thumb drive we mean a USB thumb drive, not a hard drive. Gordon On 2 Aug 2012, at 20:51, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Is this free? When people said drive, I thought a physical external hard drive was meant. I have an 8gb flash drive, so it could work. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shut down sound
That and the air will stop circulating because it will turn off. When you start with your mac you will find it's shutdown is much faster than your windows machines before, unless something is open and blocks it and at some point v o will start speaking. But cursoring around with nothing from v o will give you a quick clue that it's shutting down. On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:21 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: DVDRemaster 8 currently on sale at the Mac App Store for a limitedtime
Hello Ester and all this sounds good and sounds a good alternative for programs like Dvd Audio Extractor found on the other OS. Thanks for sharing the info with us. Much appreciated. - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX D2C2A315-EE6F-452D-AA60-C9DF08E1C1F1:ABMailRecent mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:02 PM Subject: DVDRemaster 8 currently on sale at the Mac App Store for a limitedtime Hi All, In celebration of the new version 8 release of DVDRemaster Pro, the developer has put this app on sale at the Mac App Store for $9.99 for a limited time, reduced from its usual price of $49.99. This application allows you to extract audio or video tracks from DVDs and also to recompress large DVS so they can be burned on standard DVDs, or convert them for watching on iOS devices or Apple TVs. I should add that Gordon worked with the developer to improve the accessibility of this application. You can get comments from other list members who have used this program extensively. I think you can also get a trial download of the software from Metakine's web site at: http://www.metakine.com/products/dvdremaster/ The URL for DVDRemaster 8 at the Mac App Store is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dvdremaster-8/id527609547?mt=12 HTH. Cheers, Esther --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: New iMac user with wi-fi/bluetooth problems
Hello all so is this a problem with the Macbook line of products as well? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net To: Mac-Access Mac-Access@Mac-Access.net Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:01 PM Subject: New iMac user with wi-fi/bluetooth problems Hello, I've had my first Apple iMac for two days now. I've managed to connect to my wi-fi network and the bluetooth trackPad works fine, but with the following problems. When the iMac goes to sleep after a period of inactivity, and then is awakened by pressing a key on the keyboard, both the trackPad and wifi connection is lost. I've just re-paired my trackpad, which got it working again, and tried to connect to my wifi network but with no joy. When I went into network system settings, wifi didn't even see my network - it wasn't discovered. I think a reboot takes care of the problem, but that shouldn't be necessary. Any ideas or suggestions? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: New iMac user with wi-fi/bluetooth problems
I did not yet put my mac to sleep using ml but might try it at some point to see if wifi and bt blows up. I hope not. Take care all. On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:11 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all so is this a problem with the Macbook line of products as well? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net To: Mac-Access Mac-Access@Mac-Access.net Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:01 PM Subject: New iMac user with wi-fi/bluetooth problems Hello, I've had my first Apple iMac for two days now. I've managed to connect to my wi-fi network and the bluetooth trackPad works fine, but with the following problems. When the iMac goes to sleep after a period of inactivity, and then is awakened by pressing a key on the keyboard, both the trackPad and wifi connection is lost. I've just re-paired my trackpad, which got it working again, and tried to connect to my wifi network but with no joy. When I went into network system settings, wifi didn't even see my network - it wasn't discovered. I think a reboot takes care of the problem, but that shouldn't be necessary. Any ideas or suggestions? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Gmail Trouble
I have an email account set up with the Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School, since I'm a parent. I have managed to get it set up correctly on my Mac, but when I input the same information for my iPod, it isn't recognizing it. The email address is my email address at my pa cyber dot org not Gmail--is that the trouble? Any ideas if I can make the iPod recognize the account and let me check email from there? It's all set to iMap, so I figured it owuld be safe to add it. Jane --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: can not burn ml
Sarah Possibly that system won't run the operating system anyway, so it's a mute point in that happenstance. On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:52, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: The recovery tool is nice, how ever, if you run that you will need to download the ml from the app store and if you are installing it on early 2008 macs that will not work as in the cse of my friend who tried and it said your system is not compatible. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Rename files from the title bar - Mac OS X Hints
Is this accessible w vo? I have had no internet or computer for about 2 days so have not tried this. if it is I imagine you can do this w a keystroke? I know hitting enter works but suppose you want to for some reason rename a file from the title bar. Take care. http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20120802010631553 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Disable automatic application termination in OS X - Mac OS X Hints
I did this in lion but did not do this in ml as i don't have a need to leave no windows in an app. I just quit it. This is using the terminal so be aware of that for those of you who don't want to get your feet wet. http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20120726192014497 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shut down
Sounds great, so I guess unlike Windows VoiceOver stays on until the very last second. Saying this as on the Windows machines the screen reader gets unloaded first before shutting down. So is this not the case with VoiceOver? - Original Message - From: Thomas McMahan de.kf...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:56 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound That and the air will stop circulating because it will turn off. When you start with your mac you will find it's shutdown is much faster than your windows machines before, unless something is open and blocks it and at some point v o will start speaking. But cursoring around with nothing from v o will give you a quick clue that it's shutting down. On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:21 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
Installing Lion or Later
You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shut down sound
Wow! so does this keystroke perform some kind of an instant shut down then? - Original Message - From: Thomas McMahan de.kf...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:49 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Also we should factor in that Mac has a fast shutdown. It's a lot faster than my Windows xp. It's even faster if you do the control option command eject method of shutdown. On Aug 3, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Josh and Chris No, this cannot be done. But personally, I don't think it's really an issue. Maybe it's just that I've grown so accustomed to Mac OS, or maybe it's just my in-built dislike of Windows. I use it because I have too now and then, and it looks as though I'll have too for work, at least in the short term. But to get back to the question in hand, the simple answer is no, unless there's a separate utility which can create some kind of script to access a sound file when the OS is closing down. But I rout it. Somebody else may know differently, we shall see. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 13:59, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shut down sound
Hello Gordon and all yes this is very useful indeed and thanks. That's amazing there are keystrokes to shut down and restart the system. So where is the eject key then please on a Macbook? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Hi Chris My only suggestion is that you can feel the fan and HD activity until your machine is shut down. No, VoiceOver often goes down some time before the machine because the OS does a bit of housekeeping before it closes. If you use the system shortcut, Command+Option+Control+Eject, unless there are operating system windows open which require user intervention, your machine will usually shut down of its own accord. If you use the system shortcut Command+Control+Eject, the machine will usually restart of its own accord unless there are user windows open which require intervention. Sometimes, even those windows are closed by the operating system. An example of one which usually does not close is iTunes prompting you to enter information. I hope some of that was useful. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 16:21, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to
Re: talking communities
Hi there! this link will take you to a page that explains how to get in using a Mac and VO hth Colin http://talkingcommunities.com/helpdesk/knowledgebase.php?article=85 On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:53, josh gregory wrote: Hi; Just curious, is there a way for the talking communities conference software to work on a mac? Thanks! -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Installing Lion or Later
I think it pulls some information from apple's servers when it's installing lion or later, plus it links in to ICloud too, have to keep that in mind. -Original Message- From: chris hallsworth Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 14:37 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Installing Lion or Later You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Installing Lion or Later
Yeah. go to a friend's computer or a library one, sign in to the app store under your account, download lion or what ever and make a flash disk and then take it to the off line computer and then install it by booting in to the flash disk. This is the reason why I can't use the recovery tool. My internet right now is so spotty I don't want to spend 2 days downloading 4 gigs. lol! So I'll just make the flash drive and stick it in when I need to do a clean instal and it will take about 3 hours including the transferring of data from a back up drive. On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:37 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: talking communities
thanks. I don't use the tc client right now but if I need to I'll keep this link. On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi there! this link will take you to a page that explains how to get in using a Mac and VO hth Colin http://talkingcommunities.com/helpdesk/knowledgebase.php?article=85 On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:53, josh gregory wrote: Hi; Just curious, is there a way for the talking communities conference software to work on a mac? Thanks! -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: talking communities
If it is an archive, you don't need the client, just go to the site and download the file. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: Re: talking communities thanks. I don't use the tc client right now but if I need to I'll keep this link. On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi there! this link will take you to a page that explains how to get in using a Mac and VO hth Colin http://talkingcommunities.com/helpdesk/knowledgebase.php?article=85 On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:53, josh gregory wrote: Hi; Just curious, is there a way for the talking communities conference software to work on a mac? Thanks! -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shut down sound
The eject key is 1 key to the right on the mac laptop keyboard. I learned of this I believe through the apple manu when they did the keystrokes there at one time, 2 years ago. It is a nice way to shut down. Just hit control cmd option eject to shot down, cmd option eject to sleep and control cmd eject to reboot. Take care. On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:42 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Gordon and all yes this is very useful indeed and thanks. That's amazing there are keystrokes to shut down and restart the system. So where is the eject key then please on a Macbook? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Hi Chris My only suggestion is that you can feel the fan and HD activity until your machine is shut down. No, VoiceOver often goes down some time before the machine because the OS does a bit of housekeeping before it closes. If you use the system shortcut, Command+Option+Control+Eject, unless there are operating system windows open which require user intervention, your machine will usually shut down of its own accord. If you use the system shortcut Command+Control+Eject, the machine will usually restart of its own accord unless there are user windows open which require intervention. Sometimes, even those windows are closed by the operating system. An example of one which usually does not close is iTunes prompting you to enter information. I hope some of that was useful. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 16:21, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to
Re: Tables in PDF documents
I use an app called pdf to text. simply drag the file on to the app in the apps folder and you have an rtf file on your desk top, I think. It's been a while since I used it but it works for what I need it to. I'm unsure if it will do tables but it's worth a try. On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Hello, Is there anything in the Mac App store which will run on Mountain Lion and convert PDF documents containing tables into a form which can be read with VoiceOver? My bank provides my credit card statement as a PDF file only. It does not read correctly with Preview which displays each column in the table separately. Using Abbyyy fine reader to create a spreadsheet document does a slightly better job displaying the date and description in a table with separate columns but alas the amount is in a separate following table. So at present I have to start Windows XP under VMWare Fusion and use Adobe Acrobat to convert the PDF document into html which then enables Safari to correctly read the table. this is all very inconvenient so a Mac only solution would be much better. Any suggestions? Best regards Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Installing Lion or Later
Thanks, not sure if I know any libraries in my area who have macs, so will see what I can do. - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:42 PM Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later Yeah. go to a friend's computer or a library one, sign in to the app store under your account, download lion or what ever and make a flash disk and then take it to the off line computer and then install it by booting in to the flash disk. This is the reason why I can't use the recovery tool. My internet right now is so spotty I don't want to spend 2 days downloading 4 gigs. lol! So I'll just make the flash drive and stick it in when I need to do a clean instal and it will take about 3 hours including the transferring of data from a back up drive. On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:37 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
was Re: Shut down Is Also Restart.
It either is not as multi layered as windows at shutdown or is just a lot faster. Sometimes voice will be cut off in mid word while in shut down process, but from that point on it's pretty fast. Since I have an i-mac and it's very quiet I just use feeling the air circulation to tell me it's actually shut off. Now when starting up you will hear a brief spin up and then tone and it goes through the boot up process. Sort of the opposite of windows which does the sound effect once it's ready to load windows unless you have screen reader speak up in the log in screen. So the start up will be different for you too in that regard too because in a Mac it searches the hardware and sounds when it's found sound card. If you start it and don't hear the sound fairly soon within a few seconds of the powering on, at least don't hear it in 10 seconds then something didn't find properly, or card is totally turned off, or broken. That rarely happens though, in fact I think I have only h eard it not sound off one time in nearly 10 years of using a Mac, so just reset it and it did normal procedure after I did that. I think you will find the shut down very fast compared to your windows experience, but you will also find the start up to be sort of the opposite or an inversion to your windows experience too. On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:34 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds great, so I guess unlike Windows VoiceOver stays on until the very last second. Saying this as on the Windows machines the screen reader gets unloaded first before shutting down. So is this not the case with VoiceOver? - Original Message - From: Thomas McMahan de.kf...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:56 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound That and the air will stop circulating because it will turn off. When you start with your mac you will find it's shutdown is much faster than your windows machines before, unless something is open and blocks it and at some point v o will start speaking. But cursoring around with nothing from v o will give you a quick clue that it's shutting down. On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:21 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
Re: Installing Lion or Later
lol. Maybe someone has a better solution then mine but for now it could work. lol! it is a bit convoluted but since it does not need to download anything I don't see any reason why installing from the flash drive with out hooking up to the internet would not work, or something. On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:14 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, not sure if I know any libraries in my area who have macs, so will see what I can do. - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:42 PM Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later Yeah. go to a friend's computer or a library one, sign in to the app store under your account, download lion or what ever and make a flash disk and then take it to the off line computer and then install it by booting in to the flash disk. This is the reason why I can't use the recovery tool. My internet right now is so spotty I don't want to spend 2 days downloading 4 gigs. lol! So I'll just make the flash drive and stick it in when I need to do a clean instal and it will take about 3 hours including the transferring of data from a back up drive. On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:37 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Installing Lion or Later
Not that I know of, I think they presume everybody has a fast internet or can get to an Apple store which I know of a person who does that for his o s upgrades because his internet seems to drop it partly through the download. On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:37 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shut down sound
Yes it does without going through the normal dialog. Kind of handy when you get a sudden clap of thunder that tells you a storm is right there and you want to protect your machine by having it off. Or have to leave fast. On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:38 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! so does this keystroke perform some kind of an instant shut down then? - Original Message - From: Thomas McMahan de.kf...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:49 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Also we should factor in that Mac has a fast shutdown. It's a lot faster than my Windows xp. It's even faster if you do the control option command eject method of shutdown. On Aug 3, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Josh and Chris No, this cannot be done. But personally, I don't think it's really an issue. Maybe it's just that I've grown so accustomed to Mac OS, or maybe it's just my in-built dislike of Windows. I use it because I have too now and then, and it looks as though I'll have too for work, at least in the short term. But to get back to the question in hand, the simple answer is no, unless there's a separate utility which can create some kind of script to access a sound file when the OS is closing down. But I rout it. Somebody else may know differently, we shall see. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 13:59, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Ejecting a CD/DVD/other removable storage?
So, can I use this key to eject a CD or DVD or other removable storage? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound The eject key is 1 key to the right on the mac laptop keyboard. I learned of this I believe through the apple manu when they did the keystrokes there at one time, 2 years ago. It is a nice way to shut down. Just hit control cmd option eject to shot down, cmd option eject to sleep and control cmd eject to reboot. Take care. On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:42 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Gordon and all yes this is very useful indeed and thanks. That's amazing there are keystrokes to shut down and restart the system. So where is the eject key then please on a Macbook? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Hi Chris My only suggestion is that you can feel the fan and HD activity until your machine is shut down. No, VoiceOver often goes down some time before the machine because the OS does a bit of housekeeping before it closes. If you use the system shortcut, Command+Option+Control+Eject, unless there are operating system windows open which require user intervention, your machine will usually shut down of its own accord. If you use the system shortcut Command+Control+Eject, the machine will usually restart of its own accord unless there are user windows open which require intervention. Sometimes, even those windows are closed by the operating system. An example of one which usually does not close is iTunes prompting you to enter information. I hope some of that was useful. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 16:21, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list
RE: Ejecting a CD/DVD/other removable storage?
You can use it to eject cd or DVDs. To eject other drives you highlight on the desktop and press command E. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: 03 August 2012 21:13 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Ejecting a CD/DVD/other removable storage? So, can I use this key to eject a CD or DVD or other removable storage? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound The eject key is 1 key to the right on the mac laptop keyboard. I learned of this I believe through the apple manu when they did the keystrokes there at one time, 2 years ago. It is a nice way to shut down. Just hit control cmd option eject to shot down, cmd option eject to sleep and control cmd eject to reboot. Take care. On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:42 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Gordon and all yes this is very useful indeed and thanks. That's amazing there are keystrokes to shut down and restart the system. So where is the eject key then please on a Macbook? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Hi Chris My only suggestion is that you can feel the fan and HD activity until your machine is shut down. No, VoiceOver often goes down some time before the machine because the OS does a bit of housekeeping before it closes. If you use the system shortcut, Command+Option+Control+Eject, unless there are operating system windows open which require user intervention, your machine will usually shut down of its own accord. If you use the system shortcut Command+Control+Eject, the machine will usually restart of its own accord unless there are user windows open which require intervention. Sometimes, even those windows are closed by the operating system. An example of one which usually does not close is iTunes prompting you to enter information. I hope some of that was useful. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 16:21, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated
RE: Shut down sound
All I have to do to wake the Mac up is press a key. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: 03 August 2012 17:31 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Shut down sound Hello David and all so could I put the mac computer to sleep at all times then when I need to use it wake it up? If so when should one fully shut down the system if at all? Thanks! - Original Message - From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 4:37 PM Subject: RE: Shut down sound In practice I have not found this to be a problem as generally the Mac shuts down a lot quicker. ON my IMac I do not shut down but morally put it to sleep with command option escape and it is startlingly quick, pretty much instantaneous really , I can tell the screen just goes black in a blink. . I am not sure how your Mac Book will compare. If I need to restart the system the Mac does naked a system sounds as it reboots. This is pretty much all I need - instant shut down through sleep and a reboot on the odd occasion for which there are existing sound indicators. What I do find difficult is using the option key to enter boot camp or recovery disc or external drive boot . I cannot see when the menu when boot options comes up so I end up having to count up to 30 and even then I might find myself going back into Mac OS by mistake. It would be great if there was a second system sound when you get to option boot menu. David Griffith the -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: 03 August 2012 16:22 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Shut down sound Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: Ejecting a CD/DVD/other removable storage?
Cd or dvd, not things that hook up via usb port have to do command e for that because it effects just the feed point to the cd drive/burner. On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:13 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: So, can I use this key to eject a CD or DVD or other removable storage? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound The eject key is 1 key to the right on the mac laptop keyboard. I learned of this I believe through the apple manual when they did the keystrokes there at one time, 2 years ago. It is a nice way to shut down. Just hit control cmd option eject to shot down, cmd option eject to sleep and control cmd eject to reboot. Take care. On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:42 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Gordon and all yes this is very useful indeed and thanks. That's amazing there are keystrokes to shut down and restart the system. So where is the eject key then please on a Macbook? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Hi Chris My only suggestion is that you can feel the fan and HD activity until your machine is shut down. No, VoiceOver often goes down some time before the machine because the OS does a bit of housekeeping before it closes. If you use the system shortcut, Command+Option+Control+Eject, unless there are operating system windows open which require user intervention, your machine will usually shut down of its own accord. If you use the system shortcut Command+Control+Eject, the machine will usually restart of its own accord unless there are user windows open which require intervention. Sometimes, even those windows are closed by the operating system. An example of one which usually does not close is iTunes prompting you to enter information. I hope some of that was useful. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 16:21, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive:
Re: Burning ML to SD card.
Hi Geoff, Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the Partition tab in Disk Utility. I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the Partition tab and create a new partition, which also deletes existing content in the process, rather than to use the Erase tab. Most USB thumb drives and SD media card come formatted for use with FAT32 files for Windows, since Macs can read these formats. The distinction is that when you make a bootable drive for current Macs, you not only need to specify the format for files (e.g., Mac OS Extended, Journaled), but that you're using a GUID Partition table (for an Intel Mac) vs. an Apple Partition map (for an older PowerPC Mac, or for a device that is not being used as a startup device) vs. a Master Boot Record for devices used to start up DOS or Windows devices, or devices that require DOS- or Windows-compatible partitions. In order to get access to those options, you have to create a new partition by changing the popup button for the partition layout of your device from Current to 1 partition (or however many you want). Then you can assign name, format, and size to your partition and press the Options button to select one of the three options I described above (GUID, Apple, or MBR). These changes take effect when you click Apply. I believe that Carbon Copy Cloner lets you choose a menu item to Create a Mountain Lion Installer, which takes care of all the selection options automatically, since it assumes you need this as a bootable drive, just as the default options to use it to make a bootable clone handles this preparation and the formatting settings. But it is possible to prep the drive manually as I described by using the Partition tab of Disk Utility instead of the Erase tab. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Aug 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Geoff If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a Partition tab. There is an Options button just before the two cancel and OK buttons. Pressing that will bring up a table of different partition types. In that table just select the Guide partition type radio button and click OK. Then, click Apply and then click Partition. Your partition will then be created. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Esther, Gordon and others, I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB connected media. Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition type in the delete dialog of Disk Utility. After more experimentation I decided that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's restore dialog is inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired media to the target field. I tried opening the InstallESD.dmg file and selecting the resulting mounted volume, to no avail. I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot properly, so ML should be installed later today. It sounds as though the recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well. Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
hoe to switch os
I installed ml on my external. I have Lion running on my I Mac's hard drive. How does one pick which os to use? Mark with great thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Installing Lion or Later
Ar, great to hear you can do it via the Apple retail store. - Original Message - From: Thomas McMahan de.kf...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later Not that I know of, I think they presume everybody has a fast internet or can get to an Apple store which I know of a person who does that for his o s upgrades because his internet seems to drop it partly through the download. On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:37 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Installing Lion or Later
As my not so famous saying goes, Oh, why did I not think of that. Yeah go to their internet and then download it via their mac app store signed in as you of corse, copy the app file to a flash drive and when you get home just use your tools you have in your mac to then make a flash drive, or use that same flash drive and back that app up some ware else in case you need it again.On Aug 3, 2012, at 4:32 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Ar, great to hear you can do it via the Apple retail store. - Original Message - From: Thomas McMahan de.kf...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later Not that I know of, I think they presume everybody has a fast internet or can get to an Apple store which I know of a person who does that for his o s upgrades because his internet seems to drop it partly through the download. On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:37 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: hoe to switch os
boot and while you are booting hold downy he option key for about 10 seconds. Let up on it and arrow left. This should be your external where ml is restored. Take care. On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com wrote: I installed ml on my external. I have Lion running on my I Mac's hard drive. How does one pick which os to use? Mark with great thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Ejecting a CD/DVD/other removable storage?
Actually that is the actually function of the button. Just from with in the finder hold down the button. Not sure if it works globally, but just hold it down and the cd/dvd should come out. On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:13 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: So, can I use this key to eject a CD or DVD or other removable storage? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound The eject key is 1 key to the right on the mac laptop keyboard. I learned of this I believe through the apple manu when they did the keystrokes there at one time, 2 years ago. It is a nice way to shut down. Just hit control cmd option eject to shot down, cmd option eject to sleep and control cmd eject to reboot. Take care. On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:42 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Gordon and all yes this is very useful indeed and thanks. That's amazing there are keystrokes to shut down and restart the system. So where is the eject key then please on a Macbook? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Hi Chris My only suggestion is that you can feel the fan and HD activity until your machine is shut down. No, VoiceOver often goes down some time before the machine because the OS does a bit of housekeeping before it closes. If you use the system shortcut, Command+Option+Control+Eject, unless there are operating system windows open which require user intervention, your machine will usually shut down of its own accord. If you use the system shortcut Command+Control+Eject, the machine will usually restart of its own accord unless there are user windows open which require intervention. Sometimes, even those windows are closed by the operating system. An example of one which usually does not close is iTunes prompting you to enter information. I hope some of that was useful. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 16:21, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like how iOS devices do it? Thanks! - Original Message - From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Shut down sound Yeah that'd be nice. That was one of the things that I noticed that was different from windows. But sadly, I don't think there is. On 8/3/12, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac computer and if so how? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html
Re: Burning ML to SD card.
Hmm have not tried carbon copy cloner to make an ml blush drive. I don't have the app on my hd anymore but if I bring it back to the right pace how do I do this? I read the docs but it did not appear to have the option. Take care. On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Geoff, Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the Partition tab in Disk Utility. I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the Partition tab and create a new partition, which also deletes existing content in the process, rather than to use the Erase tab. Most USB thumb drives and SD media card come formatted for use with FAT32 files for Windows, since Macs can read these formats. The distinction is that when you make a bootable drive for current Macs, you not only need to specify the format for files (e.g., Mac OS Extended, Journaled), but that you're using a GUID Partition table (for an Intel Mac) vs. an Apple Partition map (for an older PowerPC Mac, or for a device that is not being used as a startup device) vs. a Master Boot Record for devices used to start up DOS or Windows devices, or devices that require DOS- or Windows-compatible partitions. In order to get access to those options, you have to create a new partition by changing the popup button for the partition layout of your device from Current to 1 partition (or however many you want). Then you can assign name, format, and size to your partition and press the Options button to select one of the three options I described above (GUID, Apple, or MBR). These changes take effect when you click Apply. I believe that Carbon Copy Cloner lets you choose a menu item to Create a Mountain Lion Installer, which takes care of all the selection options automatically, since it assumes you need this as a bootable drive, just as the default options to use it to make a bootable clone handles this preparation and the formatting settings. But it is possible to prep the drive manually as I described by using the Partition tab of Disk Utility instead of the Erase tab. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Aug 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Geoff If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a Partition tab. There is an Options button just before the two cancel and OK buttons. Pressing that will bring up a table of different partition types. In that table just select the Guide partition type radio button and click OK. Then, click Apply and then click Partition. Your partition will then be created. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Esther, Gordon and others, I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB connected media. Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition type in the delete dialog of Disk Utility. After more experimentation I decided that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's restore dialog is inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired media to the target field. I tried opening the InstallESD.dmg file and selecting the resulting mounted volume, to no avail. I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot properly, so ML should be installed later today. It sounds as though the recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well. Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware,
followup on hiding purchases in iTunes.
Hello to all. Since updating to ml I still cannot hide purchases using iTunes and the iTunes app store. I have tried everything under the very hot sun we have here where I live and nothing. here is a bit of a rough demo of what i mean. http://audioboo.fm/boos/907646-odd-issue-hiding-purchases-in-itunes.mp3 fHOpe this works. I was recording this in a hurry. any thoughts on this/ I can't believe this is not doable w voice over unless it's operator error. Take care all and be blessed. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
ML issues updated.
Ok, Firstly, it seems,my scientific method is sorely lacking at 1 am so several dispirit conditions lead me to make incorrect and in retrospect, ludicrous assumptions regarding issues I'm having in Mountain Lionon my 2011 mbp. There are issues but on further investigation, they are different than I thought. There are issues that come and go such as previously mentioned inability to expand or unexpand threaded message trees which coincides with an inability to drag and drop interacted mailboxes into the favourites menu bar. I am still unable to move or remove items from within the favourites bar at any time. The issue that was so confusing me I have a feeling is related as it too comes and goes but again, I'll save my assumptions until I'm smart enough to test them properly. At times, when switching between finder folders with command ` or command ~ the title of the window isn't spoken but rather the first item in the window or at times, the previous window. This combined with the expanded/unexpanded status on items being spoken within the tables in said windows, I would copy items, command ` to another window of a sub folder, paste them with option command v and then on going back to the window with the parent folder, would search to make sure the items were moved, i.e., no longer in the folder but not be able to here that the sub folder was expanded so go down to the files in the sub folder still thinking i was in the parent folder. . At the same time as either the mail issues or the finder issues happen, selecting consecutive items or using the vo command space method to select nonconsecutive items speaks number of items selected but no name and vo f6 tells me no or 1 item selected. It's the on again off again nature of this strange combination of issues that I find most surprising. It's like when an invisible window would turn up in windows and stuff up JFW or a particular combination of windows covering others is blocking some important status information so voiceover can't find it. but then just go away with out any obvious reason. change Anyway, regardless it doesn't matter as no one can expect a brand new OS to be perfect and now I know what is happening, I can take more time and care and avoid this causing me to break things any more. smile Sorry for the waffling posts but thought it worth mentioning in case anyone else ends up with similar issues down the track. Regards, Danny: --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Tables in PDF documents
Hello Paul, You might try one of Wondershare's products -- either PDF Converter for Mac or PDF Converter Pro -- in trial mode. This is a kind of hokey answer, and I wouldn't want to purchase the product ($59.99 or $79.99 for Pro) unless they made some accessibility fixes to their interface. The conversion seems robust. What worked for me was using their trial downloads, which are limited to converting 5 pages, to convert from PDF to Rich Text Format. By default the conversion seems to go to Word (.docx) format, and those seemed to come out as gibberish for me. HTML worked, and then I tried the conversion to .rtf, which is probably what you will want to use. Get one of the trial downloads of either PDF Converter for Mac or PDF Converter Pro from: http://www.wondershare.com/pdf-converter/mac/ If you use the web rotor set to links, and look for Free trial, you'll get two sets of matches to the free trial downloads for the standard and pro versions: the first set are the standard and pro version links at the bottom of a feature comparison table, and the second set are the summary descriptions for the products with pricing, trial and buy links at the bottom of the page, again for the standard and pro versions. (The pro version adds OCR capability). The program starts up with a Wondershare PDF Converter (Unregistered) window with a scroll area that will populate with your selected files. To run the program use the File menu on the menu bar to Add files with the Command-L shortcut. Your selections get loaded into the scroll area of the Wondershare PDF Converter (Unregistered) window, and there's an unlabeled button outside the scroll area that runs the conversion. However, you can use the shortcuts from the Convert menu of Command-R to run or Command-Shift-R to cancel instead doing a VO-Space on that unlabeled button to run the program. For each file there is an initial button that can be pressed to Preview the PDF, and then for the currently selected file there's a second button you can press to specify the conversion format and page range. However, you can bypass this by pressing Command-F to use the File Configuration shortcut from the File Menu to bring up the dialog box with the same information. This lets you specify page range (defaults to all, but you can customize by typing, for example 1,3,5-8 into the text box), and the format in the pop up menu (e.g. Rich Text Format). The check box for Apply to all lets you apply the format selection to all files you have loaded into the scroll area to date. Run the program with Command-R. Files with similar name but .rtf extension will be placed in the same directory as your selected file. If you choose HTML, then the converted file is always named index.html. This seems to work. There are paid versions in the Mac App Store, but if you only need to read your bills, you can just use the trial version, which limits you to 5 pages per document. I'll give you the App Store links: • PDF Converter http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pdf-converter/id414200948?mt=12 • PDF Converter Pro http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pdf-converter-pro/id422540826?mt=12 Sarah and others, the issue that Paul has hit is that the PDF versions of tables reads out of order: all the entries from column 1 then all the entries from column 2. Try printing a PDF version of a table you can read correctly on the web. When you use Preview or Skim the columns are read out of order. Using the New TextEdit Window from Selection service doesn't help: if you start from the HTML version, the TextEdit window will read the table in correct order, but if you start from the PDF version, the conversion in the TextEdit window will read the same way. I tried a few other converters that gave the same behavior. That's also why I tried converting to HTML, as well with this program. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Aug 3, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I use an app called pdf to text. simply drag the file on to the app in the apps folder and you have an rtf file on your desk top, I think. It's been a while since I used it but it works for what I need it to. I'm unsure if it will do tables but it's worth a try. On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Hello, Is there anything in the Mac App store which will run on Mountain Lion and convert PDF documents containing tables into a form which can be read with VoiceOver? My bank provides my credit card statement as a PDF file only. It does not read correctly with Preview which displays each column in the table separately. Using Abbyyy fine reader to create a spreadsheet document does a slightly better job displaying the date and description in a table with separate columns but alas the amount is in a separate following table. So at present I have to start Windows XP under VMWare Fusion and use Adobe Acrobat to convert the PDF document
