Article: Apps of the week: Fightback, Articles, Twitterific 5 and more! | iMore.com

2013-07-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
I'm not into games much but I do know that the Twitter client here is one of 
the best I've used and I'm going to download the articles App, its cheap 
enough at $0.99 and hopefully it will be accessible as most IOS Apps seem to be 
these days.

http://www.imore.com/apps-week-fightback-articles-twitterific-5-and-more?utm_source=dlvr.itutm_medium=twitter
 


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hi all

2013-07-07 Thread John Gallagher

Hi all,
Just joined the list as I have just acquired a 13 inches mac book pro.
Look forward to the list and learning a new machine.
thanks.

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no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread John Gallagher

Hi all
Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates 
then it says restart.
we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as 
if it loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.

is there an actual re set button some where.

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RE: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread David Griffith
It can take quite a time for updates to be installed so would counsel giving
the machine lots of time to complete any update. I think I had to wait about
30 minutes once.
The normal way to force a reboot is to hold the power button down.
The advice Apple gave me though, when I had a problem with my iMac was to
unplug the machine, wait 10 seconds and then start up the machine again.

With a laptop  I guess that involves removing the battery as well.

David Griffith
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Subject: no joy with my new mac

Hi all
Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then it
says restart.
we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if it
loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
is there an actual re set button some where.

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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread Josh Gregory
That, however, becomes an issue, because on the more modern laptops, such as 
the MacBook Pro, the batteries are not user replaceable, and must be serviced 
by either an Apple authorized vendor, or an Apple store. John, out of 
curiosity, do you happen to know what year and model your Mac is?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:26 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 It can take quite a time for updates to be installed so would counsel giving
 the machine lots of time to complete any update. I think I had to wait about
 30 minutes once.
 The normal way to force a reboot is to hold the power button down.
 The advice Apple gave me though, when I had a problem with my iMac was to
 unplug the machine, wait 10 seconds and then start up the machine again.
 
 With a laptop  I guess that involves removing the battery as well.
 
 David Griffith
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Gallagher
 Sent: 07 July 2013 15:54
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: no joy with my new mac
 
 Hi all
 Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then it
 says restart.
 we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if it
 loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
 is there an actual re set button some where.
 
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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello John,

Have you tried pressing Command-F5 to turn VoiceOver on?

Also, did the shop set up the computer for you?

Cheers,

Anne


On 7 Jul 2013, at 18:50, John Gallagher j...@pianotuner.plus.com wrote:

 Hi there it's brand new from laptops direct in Huddersfield.
 apparently when I switch on it shows the apple logo the music sound plays the 
 disk whirls and you wait and wait nothing at all.
 should I have created a mac os 10 cd?
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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread Chris H
Am I correct in thinking you can press command, p, r in that order when 
you hear the chimes to reset the PRam or something?


On 07/07/2013 15:54, John Gallagher wrote:

Hi all
Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then
it says restart.
we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if
it loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
is there an actual re set button some where.

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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread ANDY COLLINS
John - I'm a bit puzzled when you say the disc whirls; the MacBook air 
[yours as I understand it is the same as mine] has an SSD drive, so I don't 
think you'd hear any disc activity. I can't, but then again, my hearing 
isn't great! I think perhaps, if you've downloaded updates, as has been 
suggested, you may need to wait a fair while for installations to complete. 
If you press the function key and f12, do you hear a click [this is the 
volume up key combination, or it is at least, if your machine hasn't been 
set up to perform differently with the function key; if you don't hear a 
click, I think this means boot up hasn't completed. The only other thing I 
can think of, is to be sure that the magnetic plug on the charging cable is 
properly connected to your Mac, just in case the battery is fully run down -


Andy
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Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: no joy with my new mac



Hi there it's brand new from laptops direct in Huddersfield.
apparently when I switch on it shows the apple logo the music sound plays 
the disk whirls and you wait and wait nothing at all.

should I have created a mac os 10 cd?At 16:48 07/07/2013, you wrote:
That, however, becomes an issue, because on the more modern laptops, such 
as the MacBook Pro, the batteries are not user replaceable, and must be 
serviced by either an Apple authorized vendor, or an Apple store. John, 
out of curiosity, do you happen to know what year and model your Mac is?


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:26 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


 It can take quite a time for updates to be installed so would
counsel giving
 the machine lots of time to complete any update. I think I had to
wait about
 30 minutes once.
 The normal way to force a reboot is to hold the power button down.
 The advice Apple gave me though, when I had a problem with my iMac was 
 to
 unplug the machine, wait 10 seconds and then start up the machine 
 again.


 With a laptop  I guess that involves removing the battery as well.

 David Griffith
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Gallagher
 Sent: 07 July 2013 15:54
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: no joy with my new mac

 Hi all
 Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then 
 it

 says restart.
 we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if 
 it

 loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
 is there an actual re set button some where.

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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I would opt in tot he recovery console. I had the same problem with an earlier 
update this week. I booted in to there and repaired the disk and now all is 
well.

Take care.
On Jul 7, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am I correct in thinking you can press command, p, r in that order when you 
 hear the chimes to reset the PRam or something?
 
 On 07/07/2013 15:54, John Gallagher wrote:
 Hi all
 Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then
 it says restart.
 we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if
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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread Anne Robertson
To reset the PRAM, you have to hold down Command, Option, p and r, then press 
the Power key and keep holding down the four keys until you hear the chime four 
times. Release the four keys and the machine will boot normally.

Also, having done updates, it's a good idea to repair permissions.

Cheers,

Anne


On 7 Jul 2013, at 19:28, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am I correct in thinking you can press command, p, r in that order when you 
 hear the chimes to reset the PRam or something?
 
 On 07/07/2013 15:54, John Gallagher wrote:
 Hi all
 Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then
 it says restart.
 we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if
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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread John Gallagher

Hi there yeh all was set up by me and Heather who has full sight.
after we installed updates from the apple store it said the computer 
needs to be restarted so we correctly shut down and now I cannot get 
it back on.

it is from laptopsdirect in Huddersfield in the uk.
thanks.
At 18:29 07/07/2013, you wrote:

Hello John,

Have you tried pressing Command-F5 to turn VoiceOver on?

Also, did the shop set up the computer for you?

Cheers,

Anne


On 7 Jul 2013, at 18:50, John Gallagher j...@pianotuner.plus.com wrote:

 Hi there it's brand new from laptops direct in Huddersfield.
 apparently when I switch on it shows the apple logo the music 
sound plays the disk whirls and you wait and wait nothing at all.

 should I have created a mac os 10 cd?
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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread Chris Gilland
I think when he says wirrels around, he's referring to the circle in the 
center of the screen that spins around as the machine is first booting right 
after the startup chime.  I don't think he literally meant the actual ssd 
drive, correct me if I'm wrong.


Chris.

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From: ANDY COLLINS a...@recreation.plus.com

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: no joy with my new mac


John - I'm a bit puzzled when you say the disc whirls; the MacBook air 
[yours as I understand it is the same as mine] has an SSD drive, so I 
don't think you'd hear any disc activity. I can't, but then again, my 
hearing isn't great! I think perhaps, if you've downloaded updates, as has 
been suggested, you may need to wait a fair while for installations to 
complete. If you press the function key and f12, do you hear a click [this 
is the volume up key combination, or it is at least, if your machine 
hasn't been set up to perform differently with the function key; if you 
don't hear a click, I think this means boot up hasn't completed. The only 
other thing I can think of, is to be sure that the magnetic plug on the 
charging cable is properly connected to your Mac, just in case the battery 
is fully run down -


Andy
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From: John Gallagher j...@pianotuner.plus.com

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: no joy with my new mac



Hi there it's brand new from laptops direct in Huddersfield.
apparently when I switch on it shows the apple logo the music sound plays 
the disk whirls and you wait and wait nothing at all.

should I have created a mac os 10 cd?At 16:48 07/07/2013, you wrote:
That, however, becomes an issue, because on the more modern laptops, such 
as the MacBook Pro, the batteries are not user replaceable, and must be 
serviced by either an Apple authorized vendor, or an Apple store. John, 
out of curiosity, do you happen to know what year and model your Mac is?


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:26 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


 It can take quite a time for updates to be installed so would
counsel giving
 the machine lots of time to complete any update. I think I had to
wait about
 30 minutes once.
 The normal way to force a reboot is to hold the power button down.
 The advice Apple gave me though, when I had a problem with my iMac was 
 to
 unplug the machine, wait 10 seconds and then start up the machine 
 again.


 With a laptop  I guess that involves removing the battery as well.

 David Griffith
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Gallagher
 Sent: 07 July 2013 15:54
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: no joy with my new mac

 Hi all
 Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then 
 it

 says restart.
 we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if 
 it

 loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
 is there an actual re set button some where.

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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread John Gallagher

thanks but no joy at all it just does not load up with the power on it.
would a mac os 10 help on an sd card. or on a cd could I boot up from 
there I wonder.

it was o.k until it said re start.
there is no reset button to defaults is there.
with the iphone if all goes pear shaped you can press the home and 
top button to get it back.
what I will do is switch on and leave it for an hour on it's power 
adapter see what happens.

thanks for all your help though.
At 18:34 07/07/2013, you wrote:
John - I'm a bit puzzled when you say the disc whirls; the MacBook 
air [yours as I understand it is the same as mine] has an SSD drive, 
so I don't think you'd hear any disc activity. I can't, but then 
again, my hearing isn't great! I think perhaps, if you've downloaded 
updates, as has been suggested, you may need to wait a fair while 
for installations to complete. If you press the function key and 
f12, do you hear a click [this is the volume up key combination, or 
it is at least, if your machine hasn't been set up to perform 
differently with the function key; if you don't hear a click, I 
think this means boot up hasn't completed. The only other thing I 
can think of, is to be sure that the magnetic plug on the charging 
cable is properly connected to your Mac, just in case the battery is 
fully run down -


Andy
- Original Message - From: John Gallagher j...@pianotuner.plus.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: no joy with my new mac



Hi there it's brand new from laptops direct in Huddersfield.
apparently when I switch on it shows the apple logo the music sound 
plays the disk whirls and you wait and wait nothing at all.

should I have created a mac os 10 cd?At 16:48 07/07/2013, you wrote:
That, however, becomes an issue, because on the more modern 
laptops, such as the MacBook Pro, the batteries are not user 
replaceable, and must be serviced by either an Apple authorized 
vendor, or an Apple store. John, out of curiosity, do you happen 
to know what year and model your Mac is?


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:26 AM, David Griffith 
d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:


 It can take quite a time for updates to be installed so would
counsel giving
 the machine lots of time to complete any update. I think I had to
wait about
 30 minutes once.
 The normal way to force a reboot is to hold the power button down.
 The advice Apple gave me though, when I had a problem with my 
iMac was  to
 unplug the machine, wait 10 seconds and then start up the 
machine  again.


 With a laptop  I guess that involves removing the battery as well.

 David Griffith
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Gallagher
 Sent: 07 July 2013 15:54
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: no joy with my new mac

 Hi all
 Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say 
updates then  it

 says restart.
 we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds 
as as if  it

 loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
 is there an actual re set button some where.

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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread John Gallagher

could try it.At 18:28 07/07/2013, you wrote:
Am I correct in thinking you can press command, p, r in that order 
when you hear the chimes to reset the PRam or something?


On 07/07/2013 15:54, John Gallagher wrote:

Hi all
Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then
it says restart.
we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if
it loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
is there an actual re set button some where.

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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread John Gallagher

sorry can you explain that again. not sure what you meant.
thanks.
At 18:41 07/07/2013, you wrote:
I would opt in tot he recovery console. I had the same problem with 
an earlier update this week. I booted in to there and repaired the 
disk and now all is well.


Take care.
On Jul 7, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am I correct in thinking you can press command, p, r in that 
order when you hear the chimes to reset the PRam or something?


 On 07/07/2013 15:54, John Gallagher wrote:
 Hi all
 Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then
 it says restart.
 we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if
 it loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
 is there an actual re set button some where.

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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread John Gallagher
brilliant trying it now after four beeps i took  my fingers off and 
it bleeped again now waiting.At 18:44 07/07/2013, you wrote:
To reset the PRAM, you have to hold down Command, Option, p and r, 
then press the Power key and keep holding down the four keys until 
you hear the chime four times. Release the four keys and the machine 
will boot normally.


Also, having done updates, it's a good idea to repair permissions.

Cheers,

Anne


On 7 Jul 2013, at 19:28, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am I correct in thinking you can press command, p, r in that 
order when you hear the chimes to reset the PRam or something?


 On 07/07/2013 15:54, John Gallagher wrote:
 Hi all
 Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then
 it says restart.
 we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if
 it loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
 is there an actual re set button some where.

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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread John Gallagher
Hi I still wait for another five mins then I will try command f 5 see 
what happens.

well for first time on a list what help many thanks.
At 18:44 07/07/2013, you wrote:
To reset the PRAM, you have to hold down Command, Option, p and r, 
then press the Power key and keep holding down the four keys until 
you hear the chime four times. Release the four keys and the machine 
will boot normally.


Also, having done updates, it's a good idea to repair permissions.

Cheers,

Anne


On 7 Jul 2013, at 19:28, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am I correct in thinking you can press command, p, r in that 
order when you hear the chimes to reset the PRam or something?


 On 07/07/2013 15:54, John Gallagher wrote:
 Hi all
 Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then
 it says restart.
 we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if
 it loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
 is there an actual re set button some where.

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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread Esther
Hi John,

If that doesn't work, you can try Sarah's suggestion of booting to the recovery 
partition.  This is a hidden partition that Apple now places on your hard drive 
that works as a replacement for the startup DVD.  You can boot into the 
Recovery partition by holding down the Command+r keys immediately after 
powering up and hearing the chime.  Keep holding them down for a while, until a 
window with OS X Utilities appears (since you have sighted assistance).

You have options to restore from Time Machine backup, Reinstall OS X, Get Help 
Online, and run Disk Utility, so you can repair permissions.

I haven't used this, but I recall that Sarah used the Reinstall OS X option 
recently.  Sorry not to be able to provide first-hand details.

Hope this explanation helps.

Cheers,

Esther



On Jul 7, 2013, at 7:56 AM, John Gallagher wrote:

 brilliant trying it now after four beeps i took  my fingers off and it 
 bleeped again now waiting.At 18:44 07/07/2013, you wrote:
 To reset the PRAM, you have to hold down Command, Option, p and r, then 
 press the Power key and keep holding down the four keys until you hear the 
 chime four times. Release the four keys and the machine will boot normally.
 
 Also, having done updates, it's a good idea to repair permissions.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 7 Jul 2013, at 19:28, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Am I correct in thinking you can press command, p, r in that order when 
  you hear the chimes to reset the PRam or something?
 
  On 07/07/2013 15:54, John Gallagher wrote:
  Hi all
  Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then
  it says restart.
  we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if
  it loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
  is there an actual re set button some where.
 
 
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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread John Gallagher
your are so kind of course Heather is not hear now but I will try it 
and press command f 5 you never know.

this is all amazing wonder why I could not find all this in the manual.
who was it that said bring on the stainsbies oh me I think.
wonder if I skyped my friend whould they see what was on the screen.
will not give up though.
all a learning curve.
thanks again though.
At 19:06 07/07/2013, you wrote:

Hi John,

If that doesn't work, you can try Sarah's suggestion of booting to 
the recovery partition.  This is a hidden partition that Apple now 
places on your hard drive that works as a replacement for the 
startup DVD.  You can boot into the Recovery partition by holding 
down the Command+r keys immediately after powering up and hearing 
the chime.  Keep holding them down for a while, until a window with 
OS X Utilities appears (since you have sighted assistance).


You have options to restore from Time Machine backup, Reinstall OS 
X, Get Help Online, and run Disk Utility, so you can repair permissions.


I haven't used this, but I recall that Sarah used the Reinstall OS 
X option recently.  Sorry not to be able to provide first-hand details.


Hope this explanation helps.

Cheers,

Esther



On Jul 7, 2013, at 7:56 AM, John Gallagher wrote:

 brilliant trying it now after four beeps i took  my fingers off 
and it bleeped again now waiting.At 18:44 07/07/2013, you wrote:
 To reset the PRAM, you have to hold down Command, Option, p and 
r, then press the Power key and keep holding down the four keys 
until you hear the chime four times. Release the four keys and the 
machine will boot normally.


 Also, having done updates, it's a good idea to repair permissions.

 Cheers,

 Anne


 On 7 Jul 2013, at 19:28, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

  Am I correct in thinking you can press command, p, r in that 
order when you hear the chimes to reset the PRam or something?

 
  On 07/07/2013 15:54, John Gallagher wrote:
  Hi all
  Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then
  it says restart.
  we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if
  it loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
  is there an actual re set button some where.
 
 
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it's talking

2013-07-07 Thread John Gallagher
Hi all the machine after command r then command f 5 it is in a menu 
not sure how to go it says re instal mac os 10 but I have no disk 
with it on. at least things are happening.


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Re: it's talking

2013-07-07 Thread Sarah k Alawami
You will have to download it from the internet. I heard but I'm not sure that 
this part is a bit harder to use, but someone better can guide you through the 
steps.  what I would try first is this.

1. choose disk utility

2. choose your disk where the mac is, for example macintosh hd.

3. choose first aid in the tabs.

4. choose repair disk and wait. The progress bar will be toward the end of the 
window.

5. restart and see if that does the trick.

if not reinstall the os.
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Re: it's talking

2013-07-07 Thread Esther
Hi John,

You could try to go to Disk Utilities and repair permissions.  If that doesn't 
work, you can do a reinstall of the operating system.  There's also another 
possibility that is less drastic than a reinstall that you can try first, which 
is to boot into safe mode, with restricted use.  Although you can't log in and 
hear VoiceOver when you boot into safe mode, because audio is not on,  I've 
found that simply booting into safe mode and then rebooting fixes several 
problems.  Permissions are automatically repaired as part of the safe mode 
boot, and some caches and log files are cleaned.  This worked to fix Matthew's 
girl friend's Mac update a few weeks ago.

To boot into safe mode, you press and hold down the Shift key immediately after 
your Mac starts up and continue holding it for a while (I think 40 seconds or 
so will do -- until a screen comes up).  Then, leave it to boot up.  This takes 
longer than a usual boot, because it does the repair permissions and the cache 
clearing.

On a Mac with a normal hard drive, I can hear when the activity stops.  Ten 
minutes should be more than enough, even on a loaded Mac (and yours is new).  
Then just boot up normally and see whether things work.

I've found that Safe boot mode works to clear up some issues, so I've never had 
to use the recovery partition.  Otherwise, first try using disk utility to 
repair permissions before you reinstall the operating system.  There's also a 
way to  force a reinstall from the network, I think, with Command-Option-R on 
the new machines, but I'm not sure of those details.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
 
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 how to go it says re instal mac os 10 but I have no disk with it on. at least 
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Re: it's talking

2013-07-07 Thread John Gallagher

thanks.At 19:32 07/07/2013, you wrote:
You will have to download it from the internet. I heard but I'm not 
sure that this part is a bit harder to use, but someone better can 
guide you through the steps.  what I would try first is this.


1. choose disk utility

2. choose your disk where the mac is, for example macintosh hd.

3. choose first aid in the tabs.

4. choose repair disk and wait. The progress bar will be toward the 
end of the window.


5. restart and see if that does the trick.

if not reinstall the os.
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disk with it on. at least things are happening.


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Re: it's talking

2013-07-07 Thread Chris H

You don't get a disk you download it from the internet.

On 07/07/2013 19:16, John Gallagher wrote:

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sure how to go it says re instal mac os 10 but I have no disk with it
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labelling buttons in the XM App

2013-07-07 Thread meadowlark77
Hello all,

Does anybody have the order of the XM app buttons? I know how to label 
them, but don't know what they are. Does anybody know? I'd be much oblidged. 
Ihave the real version of the app, not the trial version.

Thanks,

Brenda

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Re: it's talking

2013-07-07 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Actually that's half correct. I made a bootable thumb drive using carbon copy 
cloner and I can boot from the flash drive and restore if I have to.

Take care.
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 You don't get a disk you download it from the internet.
 
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Re: it's talking

2013-07-07 Thread Chris H

True. You can do that.

On 07/07/2013 20:09, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Actually that's half correct. I made a bootable thumb drive using carbon copy 
cloner and I can boot from the flash drive and restore if I have to.

Take care.
On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


You don't get a disk you download it from the internet.

On 07/07/2013 19:16, John Gallagher wrote:

Hi all the machine after command r then command f 5 it is in a menu not
sure how to go it says re instal mac os 10 but I have no disk with it
on. at least things are happening.

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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread Josh Gregory
You have to add the option key to that. So it would be, press command, option, 
P, and the letter R, when you hear the start up chime, and hold them down until 
you hear a second time.

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 No, not quite.
 
 You actually hold all 3 of those keys down at the same time, power on the 
 machine, keep the keys held down until you hear the second chime, then 
 release.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 1:28 PM
 Subject: Re: no joy with my new mac
 
 
 Am I correct in thinking you can press command, p, r in that order when you 
 hear the chimes to reset the PRam or something?
 
 On 07/07/2013 15:54, John Gallagher wrote:
 Hi all
 Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then
 it says restart.
 we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if
 it loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
 is there an actual re set button some where.
 
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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread Josh Gregory
No I think he said he has a MacBook Pro, so he must have one of the earlier 
models that have the hard drive if that's what he meant.

Sent from my iPhone

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 I think when he says wirrels around, he's referring to the circle in the 
 center of the screen that spins around as the machine is first booting right 
 after the startup chime.  I don't think he literally meant the actual ssd 
 drive, correct me if I'm wrong.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: ANDY COLLINS a...@recreation.plus.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 1:34 PM
 Subject: Re: no joy with my new mac
 
 
 John - I'm a bit puzzled when you say the disc whirls; the MacBook air 
 [yours as I understand it is the same as mine] has an SSD drive, so I don't 
 think you'd hear any disc activity. I can't, but then again, my hearing 
 isn't great! I think perhaps, if you've downloaded updates, as has been 
 suggested, you may need to wait a fair while for installations to complete. 
 If you press the function key and f12, do you hear a click [this is the 
 volume up key combination, or it is at least, if your machine hasn't been 
 set up to perform differently with the function key; if you don't hear a 
 click, I think this means boot up hasn't completed. The only other thing I 
 can think of, is to be sure that the magnetic plug on the charging cable is 
 properly connected to your Mac, just in case the battery is fully run down -
 
 Andy
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 j...@pianotuner.plus.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: no joy with my new mac
 
 
 Hi there it's brand new from laptops direct in Huddersfield.
 apparently when I switch on it shows the apple logo the music sound plays 
 the disk whirls and you wait and wait nothing at all.
 should I have created a mac os 10 cd?At 16:48 07/07/2013, you wrote:
 That, however, becomes an issue, because on the more modern laptops, such 
 as the MacBook Pro, the batteries are not user replaceable, and must be 
 serviced by either an Apple authorized vendor, or an Apple store. John, 
 out of curiosity, do you happen to know what year and model your Mac is?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:26 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
  It can take quite a time for updates to be installed so would
 counsel giving
  the machine lots of time to complete any update. I think I had to
 wait about
  30 minutes once.
  The normal way to force a reboot is to hold the power button down.
  The advice Apple gave me though, when I had a problem with my iMac was  
  to
  unplug the machine, wait 10 seconds and then start up the machine  
  again.
 
  With a laptop  I guess that involves removing the battery as well.
 
  David Griffith
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  [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of John Gallagher
  Sent: 07 July 2013 15:54
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net
  Subject: no joy with my new mac
 
  Hi all
  Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then  
  it
  says restart.
  we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if  
  it
  loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
  is there an actual re set button some where.
 
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Re: labelling buttons in the XM App

2013-07-07 Thread Geoff Waaler
Hi Brenda,

Just to confirm, I assume that you are talking about the SiriusXM app by 
SiriusXM?  There is no trial version, though one can obtain a five day trial 
subscription.

Okay, so on the assumption that we're discussing the same app, I was able to 
ascertain the function of all unlabeled buttons by selecting them.  At the 
bottom of the window, left to right, I labeled the five main buttons as follows:

1. Categories
2. Channels
3. Favorites
4. On Demand
5. Downloads.

While content is playing, you'll notice another button located in the center of 
the screen about a third of the way down (a bit below the play/pause button).  
I labeled that one artist info, though it will also display information about 
a channel.

Lastly, if you are listening to a channel such as 82 (Radio Classics) that 
exploits the Start now feature which allows direct access to the last five 
hours of content, there is a button in the center of the screen near the top 
that I labeled: exit list.

HTH.
Geoff
 
On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:04 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all,
 
Does anybody have the order of the XM app buttons? I know how to label 
 them, but don't know what they are. Does anybody know? I'd be much oblidged. 
 Ihave the real version of the app, not the trial version.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Brenda
 
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Re: labelling buttons in the XM App

2013-07-07 Thread meadowlark77
Yeah, we sure are talking about the same app. And, I sure do appreciate 
this. I'm going to keep a note of this, so I can fix it.

Have you figured out how to add to the favorites list?

Take care,

Brenda

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From: Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: labelling buttons in the XM App


Hi Brenda,

Just to confirm, I assume that you are talking about the SiriusXM app by 
SiriusXM?  There is no trial version, though one can obtain a five day trial 
subscription.

Okay, so on the assumption that we're discussing the same app, I was able to 
ascertain the function of all unlabeled buttons by selecting them.  At the 
bottom of the window, left to right, I labeled the five main buttons as 
follows:

1. Categories
2. Channels
3. Favorites
4. On Demand
5. Downloads.

While content is playing, you'll notice another button located in the center 
of the screen about a third of the way down (a bit below the play/pause 
button).  I labeled that one artist info, though it will also display 
information about a channel.

Lastly, if you are listening to a channel such as 82 (Radio Classics) that 
exploits the Start now feature which allows direct access to the last five 
hours of content, there is a button in the center of the screen near the top 
that I labeled: exit list.

HTH.
Geoff

On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:04 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Hello all,

Does anybody have the order of the XM app buttons? I know how to label
 them, but don't know what they are. Does anybody know? I'd be much 
 oblidged.
 Ihave the real version of the app, not the trial version.

 Thanks,

 Brenda

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all up and running and a big thanks.

2013-07-07 Thread John Gallagher

Hi all
Well for my first day on the list I must it has been eventfull.
just to say what happened.
when I restarted the mac nothing happened.
I tried the suggestions holding down four keys but nothing.
the trick that did it was to re install the software online.
when I first tried it it said I was not connected so I put in an 
ethernet cable then followed the prompts.
after an hour on fibre optic broad band it said re start and amazing 
all works now.
Please can I really say how thank full I am to one and all who helped 
and sorry about being confused.

glad I read the aplle lion manual other wise I would have had no chance.
again god bless you all and thanks for the help
no idea what happened at all.
cheers now.

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Accessible Bible program for the Mac.

2013-07-07 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hi Gang:

I am looking for an accessible Bible program for the Mac.  Is there such an 
animal out there?

Thanks all over the place.

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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread Chris Gilland
You're right.  My mistake.  I forgot about the option key.  I knew something 
didn't quite sound right about that, but I couldn't quite place what.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: no joy with my new mac


You have to add the option key to that. So it would be, press command, 
option, P, and the letter R, when you hear the start up chime, and hold 
them down until you hear a second time.


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On Jul 7, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com 
wrote:



No, not quite.

You actually hold all 3 of those keys down at the same time, power on the 
machine, keep the keys held down until you hear the second chime, then 
release.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: no joy with my new mac


Am I correct in thinking you can press command, p, r in that order when 
you hear the chimes to reset the PRam or something?


On 07/07/2013 15:54, John Gallagher wrote:

Hi all
Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then
it says restart.
we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if
it loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
is there an actual re set button some where.

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Re: Accessible Bible program for the Mac.

2013-07-07 Thread Chris Gilland
You might want to check out Macsword I think it's called.  Actually, I think 
in the latest version, they renamed it to elequent or something along that 
line.


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I am looking for an accessible Bible program for the Mac.  Is there such 
an animal out there?


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Re: Accessible Bible program for the Mac.

2013-07-07 Thread Devin Prater
Yes. Its called Eloquence. Pretty good for public domain stuff.

Sent from my iPod

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 You might want to check out Macsword I think it's called.  Actually, I think 
 in the latest version, they renamed it to elequent or something along that 
 line.
 
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 jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:37 PM
 Subject: Accessible Bible program for the Mac.
 
 
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Re: all up and running and a big thanks.

2013-07-07 Thread Josh Gregory
It's no problem, that is what we are all here for. We are all glad we can help 
you and if you should ever need anything please feel free to ask.

Sent from my iPhone

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 Hi all
 Well for my first day on the list I must it has been eventfull.
 just to say what happened.
 when I restarted the mac nothing happened.
 I tried the suggestions holding down four keys but nothing.
 the trick that did it was to re install the software online.
 when I first tried it it said I was not connected so I put in an ethernet 
 cable then followed the prompts.
 after an hour on fibre optic broad band it said re start and amazing all 
 works now.
 Please can I really say how thank full I am to one and all who helped and 
 sorry about being confused.
 glad I read the aplle lion manual other wise I would have had no chance.
 again god bless you all and thanks for the help
 no idea what happened at all.
 cheers now.
 
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Re: no joy with my new mac

2013-07-07 Thread Josh Gregory
It's quite alright, believe me I do that a lot.

Sent from my iPhone

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 You're right.  My mistake.  I forgot about the option key.  I knew something 
 didn't quite sound right about that, but I couldn't quite place what.
 
 Chris.
 
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 Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 5:00 PM
 Subject: Re: no joy with my new mac
 
 
 You have to add the option key to that. So it would be, press command, 
 option, P, and the letter R, when you hear the start up chime, and hold them 
 down until you hear a second time.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 7, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Chris Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:
 
 No, not quite.
 
 You actually hold all 3 of those keys down at the same time, power on the 
 machine, keep the keys held down until you hear the second chime, then 
 release.
 
 Chris.
 
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 Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 1:28 PM
 Subject: Re: no joy with my new mac
 
 
 Am I correct in thinking you can press command, p, r in that order when 
 you hear the chimes to reset the PRam or something?
 
 On 07/07/2013 15:54, John Gallagher wrote:
 Hi all
 Just set up my new mac did some downloads or should I say updates then
 it says restart.
 we restarted the machine and no joy what ever we do it sounds as as if
 it loads and Heather says the screen is blank so a bad start.
 is there an actual re set button some where.
 
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Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and Voiceover with Mountain Lion

2013-07-07 Thread gaggore12
Hello Listers:

 

I heard that there are other options for browsers which are compatible with
Voiceover.  Is this true?  If so, where do I obtain swuch a one?

 

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks much.

 

Andrew  

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Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and Voiceover with Mountain Lion

2013-07-07 Thread Sarah k Alawami
You can google for google chrome, no pun intended.  I also hear firefox is 
usable, although I cannot get it to work as of yet, but that could be due to a 
lac of knowledge.

Take care.
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 I heard that there are other options for browsers which are compatible with
 Voiceover.  Is this true?  If so, where do I obtain swuch a one?
 
 
 
 Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks much.
 
 
 
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Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and Voiceover with Mountain Lion

2013-07-07 Thread Devin Prater
Firefox, well, they tried. They haven't gotten there yet but you can do very 
basical navigation. 

Sent from my iPod

On Jul 7, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can google for google chrome, no pun intended.  I also hear firefox is 
 usable, although I cannot get it to work as of yet, but that could be due to 
 a lac of knowledge.
 
 Take care.
 On Jul 7, 2013, at 6:02 PM, gaggor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Listers:
 
 
 
 I heard that there are other options for browsers which are compatible with
 Voiceover.  Is this true?  If so, where do I obtain swuch a one?
 
 
 
 Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks much.
 
 
 
 Andrew  
 
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Re: labelling buttons in the XM App

2013-07-07 Thread Geoff Waaler
Hi Brenda,

While a channel is playing, you will notice a button labeled: actionHeader in 
the upper right hand corner of the window.  It is just below the battery level 
indicator status bar item, and just to the right of the artist name field.  
Anyway, when this button is selected, it will open a menu of options including: 
add show to favorites, add channel to favorites, buy song from iTunes, 
etc.

Take care, and have fun with the app.
Geoff

On Jul 7, 2013, at 5:23 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:

 Yeah, we sure are talking about the same app. And, I sure do appreciate 
 this. I'm going to keep a note of this, so I can fix it.
 
Have you figured out how to add to the favorites list?
 
 Take care,
 
 Brenda
 
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 From: Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 4:23 PM
 Subject: Re: labelling buttons in the XM App
 
 
 Hi Brenda,
 
 Just to confirm, I assume that you are talking about the SiriusXM app by 
 SiriusXM?  There is no trial version, though one can obtain a five day trial 
 subscription.
 
 Okay, so on the assumption that we're discussing the same app, I was able to 
 ascertain the function of all unlabeled buttons by selecting them.  At the 
 bottom of the window, left to right, I labeled the five main buttons as 
 follows:
 
 1. Categories
 2. Channels
 3. Favorites
 4. On Demand
 5. Downloads.
 
 While content is playing, you'll notice another button located in the center 
 of the screen about a third of the way down (a bit below the play/pause 
 button).  I labeled that one artist info, though it will also display 
 information about a channel.
 
 Lastly, if you are listening to a channel such as 82 (Radio Classics) that 
 exploits the Start now feature which allows direct access to the last five 
 hours of content, there is a button in the center of the screen near the top 
 that I labeled: exit list.
 
 HTH.
 Geoff
 
 On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:04 PM, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
   Does anybody have the order of the XM app buttons? I know how to label
 them, but don't know what they are. Does anybody know? I'd be much 
 oblidged.
 Ihave the real version of the app, not the trial version.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Brenda
 
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