Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I would give amadeus pro a try, the more you can get away from Windows, the better. Original message: I would just like to thank people for their various opinions which have been very helpful. I have been thinking about this all day, and I think I am going to give the virtual machine a try, especially as from what I have read here, I ought to be able to do it alone. This machine has 16 GB of ram in it, it's brand new, so it has to be worth a shot at least. If it really does not work on the audio side with my audio production software, that might just cajole me into using Amadeus Pro. Thanks to everyone again. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami Sent: 27 April 2015 19:25 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Actually I knwo one apple store that did. they got th eprocess started for someone and they finished it with speach when they got home. lol! Just ask and if you know someone there maybe work with them. The folks at apple are willing to bend over backwards to help me. take care. On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:51 PM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I use amadeus pro and golewave. I wish both woudl scan and remove silences in a file. iv'e asked for this time and time and time again in amadeus pro but the developer does not think it's importent Amadeus is still a very very good program though. On Apr 28, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net mailto:n0...@charter.net wrote: I would give amadeus pro a try, the more you can get away from Windows, the better. Original message: I would just like to thank people for their various opinions which have been very helpful. I have been thinking about this all day, and I think I am going to give the virtual machine a try, especially as from what I have read here, I ought to be able to do it alone. This machine has 16 GB of ram in it, it's brand new, so it has to be worth a shot at least. If it really does not work on the audio side with my audio production software, that might just cajole me into using Amadeus Pro. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go? On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
a friend of mine installed windows with it flawlessly on his macbook with bootcamp with no issues.incidentally do i need the iso file to be on a formatted flash drive to run?you can then i believe use your bootcamp partition in fusion once it's created. Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 11:12, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi William I could do that, but I wasn't sure it would be good enough to read the Mac screen. If you think it would get me through it I could give it a shot. Thanks. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 27 April 2015 11:08 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go? On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Hi William I could do that, but I wasn't sure it would be good enough to read the Mac screen. If you think it would get me through it I could give it a shot. Thanks. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 27 April 2015 11:08 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go? On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I have been reading all of the posts here and tried on different occasions to respond. For other tech reasons that I don’t think is necessary for this thread, I’ll put my 2 sense in about BootCamp and what I needed to do to install it myself. Before I start, I want to suggest to listen to a podcast on CoolBlindTech regarding Wininstaller. It’s a software program that will provide one with a talking installer for Windows. I did not go that route, since I am still not fully confident in advance skills on the Mac side. I used the following apps to install Win 8.0 with no (sort of) sighted assistance. They include KNFB Reader, BeMyEyes, the Applevis guidelines, and Facetime. Here is what I found that helped me. 1. The Applevis guidelines was sort of helpful. The dialog pages when installing Win 8.0 didn’t pair up with the information written in the guidelines. Hence, you need to be careful on which keystroke you used and where. That said, the keystrokes when matched to the correct dialog page were very helpful. 2. When using the KNFB Reader, I first increased the brightness of the Mac’s screen to 100%. This gave me very accurate results in the image scan with KNFB. It also allowed me to locate the precise section in the Applevis guideline text for the correct keystrokes to use. 3. I used BeMyEyes to confirm the 04 bootcamp drive. Since this is a critical point in the installation, I didn’t want to reformat the wrong disk. I also had the individual assist me in the confirmation of the advance button in disk options and the format button at this point. I did that because I had the sighted person on the other end. 4. However, I had some difficulties in accessing the next button. It was located in the lower right hand corner and the only method to access it was with the trackpad. 5. I contacted an AT sighted buddy of mine through Facetime and with his guidance in which direction to move my finger on the mouse, I was able to select the next button and left click on it. It was a challenge, but very rewarding knowing that I was able to install Win 8.0 on my own. My AT friend learn something that he may be able to use in the future to assist someone else that wants to install Windows into BootCamp, but does not have sighted assistance available. Sorry for this long reply, but I thought others would like to know my creative resolution to a task that is really not accessible to the visually impaired to complete without sighted assistance. HTH. Warmest regards, Eileen On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:32 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: Personally if I started from scratch on a new Mac I would not bother with Boot Camp and would rely upon Fusion. I think it is 2 years since I booted into Boot Camp. Having said that there are some reasons why you may need Boot camp. 1. Hardware support. It is possible that some hardware will not necessarily play nicely with Fusion. Mainstream devices should be fine but for example I could never get my specialist VIP hardware EyePal scanner to work under Fusion. As I now use this on a Windows machine this does not matter for me but may be an issue if Fusion is your only Windows option. 2. Resources. Actually I find a Fusion Virtual Machine pretty fast on a Mac but theoretically all resources are available to a Boot Camp install so should be more powerful. However as I say my Fusion installs seem fast enough and certainly boots up faster than Boot Camp. I would recommend that if you go the Fusion route you modify at the outset the Ram and processor cores available to your Fusion VM as the default is pretty skimpy. Actually if you go the Boot camp route you should also increase the max disk space allocated as this is also skimpy by default. It is important to in Fusion that you settle down your processor core and memory allocation at the beginning as otherwise this will create possible activation issues for your windows install and certainly Jaws. I routinely use NVDA until this is all sorted out. David Griffith On 27/04/2015 06:55, Brian Hartgen wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Personally if I started from scratch on a new Mac I would not bother with Boot Camp and would rely upon Fusion. I think it is 2 years since I booted into Boot Camp. Having said that there are some reasons why you may need Boot camp. 1. Hardware support. It is possible that some hardware will not necessarily play nicely with Fusion. Mainstream devices should be fine but for example I could never get my specialist VIP hardware EyePal scanner to work under Fusion. As I now use this on a Windows machine this does not matter for me but may be an issue if Fusion is your only Windows option. 2. Resources. Actually I find a Fusion Virtual Machine pretty fast on a Mac but theoretically all resources are available to a Boot Camp install so should be more powerful. However as I say my Fusion installs seem fast enough and certainly boots up faster than Boot Camp. I would recommend that if you go the Fusion route you modify at the outset the Ram and processor cores available to your Fusion VM as the default is pretty skimpy. Actually if you go the Boot camp route you should also increase the max disk space allocated as this is also skimpy by default. It is important to in Fusion that you settle down your processor core and memory allocation at the beginning as otherwise this will create possible activation issues for your windows install and certainly Jaws. I routinely use NVDA until this is all sorted out. David Griffith On 27/04/2015 06:55, Brian Hartgen wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
okay but I'm not sure in the UK if there that's helpful. On 27 Apr 2015, at 19:25, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I knwo one apple store that did. they got th eprocess started for someone and they finished it with speach when they got home. lol! Just ask and if you know someone there maybe work with them. The folks at apple are willing to bend over backwards to help me. take care. On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:51 PM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Hello. I'm limited on what I can answer per the guidelines of the list, but I personally love vmware fusion as I can flip between operating systems, how ever, I have a radio that takes a serial connection and for me Vmware does not play nice. That's the only disadvantage of vmware for me. bootcamp is quite easy to install with out site. I modified an applevis guide to make it a bit easier to read. I'll email that to you off list so as not to get in to trouble. If I don't get to it by next week fire me an email off list and remind me. I'm going out of town on business, but I will get that to you soon. The other disadvantage btw about boot camp is if you need to shrink the partition, let's say you made it too big, I have not found a way to do it in such a way to reallocate safely, but I could be wrong. I'm still learning the mac and all it can do after 5 years owning one, and that's way cool! I'm not known for my long replies so with that I hope that helps. Blessings and happy Sunday. On Apr 26, 2015, at 10:55 PM, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Hello Sarah. Can you email me that guide off list as well? I installed Windows with Bootcamp, but I needed to use the Be My Eyes app since there was no sound when the Windows 8.1 installation DVD booted. My email address is rmann0581 at gmail.com. Note, I spelled at out so it would be harder for spam bots to get my email address. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2015, at 2:09 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I'm limited on what I can answer per the guidelines of the list, but I personally love vmware fusion as I can flip between operating systems, how ever, I have a radio that takes a serial connection and for me Vmware does not play nice. That's the only disadvantage of vmware for me. bootcamp is quite easy to install with out site. I modified an applevis guide to make it a bit easier to read. I'll email that to you off list so as not to get in to trouble. If I don't get to it by next week fire me an email off list and remind me. I'm going out of town on business, but I will get that to you soon. The other disadvantage btw about boot camp is if you need to shrink the partition, let's say you made it too big, I have not found a way to do it in such a way to reallocate safely, but I could be wrong. I'm still learning the mac and all it can do after 5 years owning one, and that's way cool! I'm not known for my long replies so with that I hope that helps. Blessings and happy Sunday. On Apr 26, 2015, at 10:55 PM, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Yeah, William, if people have spent the $99 to buy it. Plus, KNFB reader doesn't really do that great, in my personal experience, with reading computer monitors. Plus, the buttons like Next, and Cancel, etc have underlined letters so you know what key to hit with your alt key. KNFB isn't gonna tell you what those underlined hotkey letters are. Plus, If you wanted to use the mouse to get through the installer, KNFB isn't going to be able to direct your mouse pointer to where you need to click. I see where you're going with this, but it would probably be more headache than it's worth. You'd probably do better with Be My Eyes, although, lately, I'm not so convinced of that after the problem that every one of my I O S devices seem to be having according to the sighted vollenteers. But, that's for another post. Chris. - Original Message - From: william lomas w.lo...@icloud.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go? On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
OK, if you're doing audio work, then yes, I'd strongly suggest Bootcamp, but again, that's just me. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Hi Chris What you say makes complete sense. I do a lot of audio work, so Bootcamp may be the way to go. Thank you. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: 27 April 2015 15:12 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Brian, I'm unsure if they would help you installing Windows. It's really hard to say. I think it would be up to their disgression. Most likely though, they'd probably not. They'd probaby help you get the Bootcamp partition set up, but that would be about the end of it. Again though. I'd call them. It doesn't hurt to try. The least they'd do is say no, so I don't wanna discourage you from giving it a shot. As for the advantages and disadvantages, it really just depends on what you're doing. The biggest thing is, with Bootcamp, you're booted directly into Windows on its own partition. With VMWare Fusion or the like, the issue you're going to face is, for one thing, it'll take a little more work, as certain keys on the keyboard will have to be remapped to work correctly within Windows, it's not a big deal, just a little tedious. Plus, realize that then, you'll be using system resources both for OSX and for Windows at the same time. Again, it depends on how processor intense and how memory intense the stuff in Windows can be that you need to accomplish. Me personally? I use Bootcamp, but yeah... that's just me personally. Plus, with me being an audio engineer, I don't want any of my Windows stuff touching my mac partition. But again, I'm weird that way. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:55 AM Subject: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Brian, I'm unsure if they would help you installing Windows. It's really hard to say. I think it would be up to their disgression. Most likely though, they'd probably not. They'd probaby help you get the Bootcamp partition set up, but that would be about the end of it. Again though. I'd call them. It doesn't hurt to try. The least they'd do is say no, so I don't wanna discourage you from giving it a shot. As for the advantages and disadvantages, it really just depends on what you're doing. The biggest thing is, with Bootcamp, you're booted directly into Windows on its own partition. With VMWare Fusion or the like, the issue you're going to face is, for one thing, it'll take a little more work, as certain keys on the keyboard will have to be remapped to work correctly within Windows, it's not a big deal, just a little tedious. Plus, realize that then, you'll be using system resources both for OSX and for Windows at the same time. Again, it depends on how processor intense and how memory intense the stuff in Windows can be that you need to accomplish. Me personally? I use Bootcamp, but yeah... that's just me personally. Plus, with me being an audio engineer, I don't want any of my Windows stuff touching my mac partition. But again, I'm weird that way. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:55 AM Subject: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Hi Chris What you say makes complete sense. I do a lot of audio work, so Bootcamp may be the way to go. Thank you. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: 27 April 2015 15:12 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Brian, I'm unsure if they would help you installing Windows. It's really hard to say. I think it would be up to their disgression. Most likely though, they'd probably not. They'd probaby help you get the Bootcamp partition set up, but that would be about the end of it. Again though. I'd call them. It doesn't hurt to try. The least they'd do is say no, so I don't wanna discourage you from giving it a shot. As for the advantages and disadvantages, it really just depends on what you're doing. The biggest thing is, with Bootcamp, you're booted directly into Windows on its own partition. With VMWare Fusion or the like, the issue you're going to face is, for one thing, it'll take a little more work, as certain keys on the keyboard will have to be remapped to work correctly within Windows, it's not a big deal, just a little tedious. Plus, realize that then, you'll be using system resources both for OSX and for Windows at the same time. Again, it depends on how processor intense and how memory intense the stuff in Windows can be that you need to accomplish. Me personally? I use Bootcamp, but yeah... that's just me personally. Plus, with me being an audio engineer, I don't want any of my Windows stuff touching my mac partition. But again, I'm weird that way. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:55 AM Subject: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Brian wrote: I could do that, but I wasn't sure it would be good enough to read the Mac screen. If you think it would get me through it I could give it a shot. It's worth a try, don't get me wrong, but I'm just not totally convinced how great the result yielded would be. I'd be interested in knowing if you get through it. Just know however, YMMV. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:12 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Hi William I could do that, but I wasn't sure it would be good enough to read the Mac screen. If you think it would get me through it I could give it a shot. Thanks. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 27 April 2015 11:08 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion can’t you use eh KNFB reader to read your monitor as you go? On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Wow, this is a good thread! The other thing that should be considered is the cost. I'd have to look it up, but I remember VMWare Fusion costing some money. I believe it was somewhere around fifty bucks or so in USD. I don't know if Bootcamp costs anything, being that its capabilities are built into OSX as far as I know. I could be basse-ackwards on this, but that's what I've heard. - Original Message - From: Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 23:51 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Disk space can be adjusted so there is no need to allocate more than necessary. with regard to Fusion When I first switched to the Mac, I was convinced that I would really need bootcamp so I got everything ready, setup the bootcamp so that it was ready for the Windows install, and headed off to the Apple Store to try to get them to help me. I was able to do so but it was with reluctance. They told me they were not supposed to help me install Windows, and I think if I had not been completely prepared, they would not have done so. I wouldn't count on that kind of assistance, and I doubt it has anything to do with whether one is in the UK or anywhere else. Still, it might be worth a try if you are desperate which I was. Before I installed bootcamp, I had purchased VMWare Fusion since I knew I could install Windows unassisted. So I already had Fusion and Windows running. I admit that the bootcamp version of Windows ran better than the virtual machine, but the virtual machine runs well enough and has improved with updated versions of Fusion. Within a month or so, I decided to remove the bootcamp partition for two reasons: 1. I have a Macbook Air with only 256 GB of SSD, and 2. I really like the ability to use both the Mac OS and Windows simultaneously. This was more important than the ability too boot into Windows. So I removed bootcamp to reclaim some space. I generally have not regretted removing the bootcamp partition. Fusion works well enough for my Windows. needs On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:32 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: Personally if I started from scratch on a new Mac I would not bother with Boot Camp and would rely upon Fusion. I think it is 2 years since I booted into Boot Camp. Having said that there are some reasons why you may need Boot camp. 1. Hardware support. It is possible that some hardware will not necessarily play nicely with Fusion. Mainstream devices should be fine but for example I could never get my specialist VIP hardware EyePal scanner to work under Fusion. As I now use this on a Windows machine this does not matter for me but may be an issue if Fusion is your only Windows option. 2. Resources. Actually I find a Fusion Virtual Machine pretty fast on a Mac but theoretically all resources are available to a Boot Camp install so should be more powerful. However as I say my Fusion installs seem fast enough and certainly boots up faster than Boot Camp. I would recommend that if you go the Fusion route you modify at the outset the Ram and processor cores available to your Fusion VM as the default is pretty skimpy. Actually if you go the Boot camp route you should also increase the max disk space allocated as this is also skimpy by default. It is important to in Fusion that you settle down your processor core and memory allocation at the beginning as otherwise this will create possible activation issues for your windows install and certainly Jaws. I routinely use NVDA until this is all sorted out. David Griffith On 27/04/2015 06:55, Brian Hartgen wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I would use fusion for several reasons. First, you can install windows totally without sighted help, there is a quick install where you provide either the DVD or an ISO of Windows, tell it the product key and Fusion does the rest. Second, as you said, you can switch between the 2 operating systems without having to reboot. Finally, your Windows virtual machine is stored in one file, so it's really easy to back up. If something happens to it, just copy and replace it from a backup. About the only disadvantage with Fusion is that not all of your resources will be used by Windows, but if it's a high end machine, you shouldn't notice any delays. Original message: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I would just like to thank people for their various opinions which have been very helpful. I have been thinking about this all day, and I think I am going to give the virtual machine a try, especially as from what I have read here, I ought to be able to do it alone. This machine has 16 GB of ram in it, it's brand new, so it has to be worth a shot at least. If it really does not work on the audio side with my audio production software, that might just cajole me into using Amadeus Pro. Thanks to everyone again. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami Sent: 27 April 2015 19:25 To: mac access list iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Actually I knwo one apple store that did. they got th eprocess started for someone and they finished it with speach when they got home. lol! Just ask and if you know someone there maybe work with them. The folks at apple are willing to bend over backwards to help me. take care. On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:51 PM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Actually I knwo one apple store that did. they got th eprocess started for someone and they finished it with speach when they got home. lol! Just ask and if you know someone there maybe work with them. The folks at apple are willing to bend over backwards to help me. take care. On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:51 PM, Eleanor burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I know that my Apple store would not assist you in installing windows. On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:55, Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
I actually do all of my audio work on the mac, but I'm an almost seasoned mac user of 5 years so am very comfortable workign with audio on the mac. I produce my voice overs for this company I volenteer for on the mac, my EP, albums and podcasts and it all works very very flawlessly. Take care. On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, if you're doing audio work, then yes, I'd strongly suggest Bootcamp, but again, that's just me. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Hi Chris What you say makes complete sense. I do a lot of audio work, so Bootcamp may be the way to go. Thank you. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: 27 April 2015 15:12 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Brian, I'm unsure if they would help you installing Windows. It's really hard to say. I think it would be up to their disgression. Most likely though, they'd probably not. They'd probaby help you get the Bootcamp partition set up, but that would be about the end of it. Again though. I'd call them. It doesn't hurt to try. The least they'd do is say no, so I don't wanna discourage you from giving it a shot. As for the advantages and disadvantages, it really just depends on what you're doing. The biggest thing is, with Bootcamp, you're booted directly into Windows on its own partition. With VMWare Fusion or the like, the issue you're going to face is, for one thing, it'll take a little more work, as certain keys on the keyboard will have to be remapped to work correctly within Windows, it's not a big deal, just a little tedious. Plus, realize that then, you'll be using system resources both for OSX and for Windows at the same time. Again, it depends on how processor intense and how memory intense the stuff in Windows can be that you need to accomplish. Me personally? I use Bootcamp, but yeah... that's just me personally. Plus, with me being an audio engineer, I don't want any of my Windows stuff touching my mac partition. But again, I'm weird that way. Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Hartgen brianhart...@gmail.com To: 'OS X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:55 AM Subject: [Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive
[Mac-access]: Bootcamp V. VMWare Fusion
Hi I received my first Mac on Saturday. I have done a lot of studying and I think I am quite proficient at the screen-reading with it. However, I am very undecided about whether to use Windows with Bootcamp or with VMWare. For my work, I do need to use Windows. This is a high spec machine so I wanted to take advantage of that. But I have some questions. I like the idea of having VMWare, so I can flick between different operating systems. However, precisely please what are the advantages of running it in Bootcamp as opposed to a virtual machine? If I ran it as a Virtual Machine, what disadvantages would I notice? For example, would there be any kind of delay when using a Windows screen-reader? My other question relates to installing Windows. I've read a lot, and there does not seem to be an easy way described with complete accuracy as to how to install Windows without vision. This may seem like a strange question, but if I booked an appointment at an Apple store to get some sighted help, is that good etiquette? Are they likely to say no because I need to install Windows? I have the MacBook Pro, external keyboard and the Apple Superdrive which I could take along there. Thank you for any help. Brian Hartgen --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bootcamp
Hello This response makes absolutely no sense to me I’m afraid. But in any event, let’s not continue this thread too much because this is a OS X list, not a Windows one. The specifics of installing Windows are for another forum. Kindest regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, Plus I.T Help Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired Department at: Sunnyside Academy Manor Farm Way Colby Newham Middlesbrough Cleveland United Kingdom == Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 United Kingdom Geographic: 01133 280547 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess -- On 14 Jul 2014, at 15:34, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: Then it installing? Sent from my iPhone On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:43, Lewis Crack lewiscr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Will, Yes it is, then AltA for advanced options, Alt F for Format. Then Alt/Option B for back and down arrow 4 times to select the Bootcamp partition, then press enter. Regards Lewis.. Sent from my iPhone On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:01, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to hit the bootcamp partition? Will Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac
Re: Bootcamp
Lew I’m somewhat behind on mail. Is it possible, is that what you’re implying here, to install Windows 7/8 under Boot Camp without assistance? I was under the impression that this was system-specific so wouldn’t always work reliably. For instance, selecting the partition to format when there are multiple drives in the system such as a Mac Pro installation, I’d have thought that would change the sequence? Kindest regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, Plus I.T Help Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired Department at: Sunnyside Academy Manor Farm Way Colby Newham Middlesbrough Cleveland == Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 United Kingdom Geographic: 01133 280547 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:43, Lewis Crack lewiscr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Will, Yes it is, then AltA for advanced options, Alt F for Format. Then Alt/Option B for back and down arrow 4 times to select the Bootcamp partition, then press enter. Regards Lewis.. Sent from my iPhone On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:01, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to hit the bootcamp partition? Will Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Bootcamp
Hello, Gordon, you can tell me if I am OT, but Applevis recently posted a podcast on how to install Windows in Bootcamp using a talking installer from bryansmart.com. I wish I had this when I was going through the process about 4 months ago. Fortunately, I had sighted assistance. Otherwise, I probably would have gotten myself into a mess. HTH. Eileen -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:43 AM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bootcamp Lew I’m somewhat behind on mail. Is it possible, is that what you’re implying here, to install Windows 7/8 under Boot Camp without assistance? I was under the impression that this was system-specific so wouldn’t always work reliably. For instance, selecting the partition to format when there are multiple drives in the system such as a Mac Pro installation, I’d have thought that would change the sequence? Kindest regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Proudly Providing Braille And Alternative Format Transcription Services, Plus I.T Help Support To The Staff And Students Of the Visually Impaired Department at: Sunnyside Academy Manor Farm Way Colby Newham Middlesbrough Cleveland == Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 United Kingdom Geographic: 01133 280547 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:43, Lewis Crack lewiscr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Will, Yes it is, then AltA for advanced options, Alt F for Format. Then Alt/Option B for back and down arrow 4 times to select the Bootcamp partition, then press enter. Regards Lewis.. Sent from my iPhone On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:01, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to hit the bootcamp partition? Will Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace
Bootcamp
hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to hit the bootcamp partition? Will Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bootcamp
Hi Will, Yes it is, then AltA for advanced options, Alt F for Format. Then Alt/Option B for back and down arrow 4 times to select the Bootcamp partition, then press enter. Regards Lewis.. Sent from my iPhone On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:01, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to hit the bootcamp partition? Will Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Bootcamp
Hi, I am 99% sure that the bootcamp partition is located in the 4th position. However, once you begin the installation of Windows, you will have no speech, hence needing sighted assistance. At one point, I did read the article posted up on Applevis to install Windows without sight, but my steps and the amount of tabs didn't match up, as reported by my assistant helping me to install Windows. Also, I'm not sure which OSX you are using, but I am running Mountain Lion. And began with Win 8.0 original single licensed disk and bootcamp for one reason or another didn't like it. I needed to create an ISO on the desktop and run bootcamp from the ISO disk instead of the disk. I did keep the disk in the external DVD player and that's where Win 8.0 was installed from. It was the oddest thing, but it worked. Just giving you my recent experience with it all. HTH and good luck. Eileen -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 6:01 AM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Bootcamp hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to hit the bootcamp partition? Will Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bootcamp
Then it installing? Sent from my iPhone On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:43, Lewis Crack lewiscr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Will, Yes it is, then AltA for advanced options, Alt F for Format. Then Alt/Option B for back and down arrow 4 times to select the Bootcamp partition, then press enter. Regards Lewis.. Sent from my iPhone On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:01, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to hit the bootcamp partition? Will Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Bootcamp
We may get in trouble for talking about this on this list but no the Mac has to restart into the Boot camp partition and then you have to have your Windows OS disc / drive ready for the installation of Windows as normal. Unlike the Mac OS this process is not generally accessible unless you enter the realms of unattended installs or remember keystrokes so it is probably best to get sighted help. You probably need to go onto the windows access or tech list to pursue this more. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 14 July 2014 15:34 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bootcamp Then it installing? Sent from my iPhone On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:43, Lewis Crack lewiscr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Will, Yes it is, then AltA for advanced options, Alt F for Format. Then Alt/Option B for back and down arrow 4 times to select the Bootcamp partition, then press enter. Regards Lewis.. Sent from my iPhone On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:01, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to hit the bootcamp partition? Will Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something
Re: Bootcamp
hi will yes i think the list does not allow anything to do with windows i manged this is vmware fusion but i think there is a tech list where you can get help and it is best to have sighted assistance. cheers then. - Original Message - From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com To: 'Os X iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Date: Monday, 14 July 2014 3.49 pm Subject: RE: Bootcamp We may get in trouble for talking about this on this list but no the Mac has to restart into the Boot camp partition and then you have to have your Windows OS disc / drive ready for the installation of Windows as normal. Unlike the Mac OS this process is not generally accessible unless you enter the realms of unattended installs or remember keystrokes so it is probably best to get sighted help. You probably need to go onto the windows access or tech list to pursue this more. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 14 July 2014 15.34 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bootcamp Then it installing? Sent from my iPhone On 14 Jul 2014, at 14.43, Lewis Crack lewiscr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Will, Yes it is, then AltA for advanced options, Alt F for Format. Then Alt/Option B for back and down arrow 4 times to select the Bootcamp partition, then press enter. Regards Lewis$. Sent from my iPhone 0was On 14 Jul 2014, at 14.01, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: 0was 0was hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to hit the bootcamp partition? 0was Will 0was 0was 0was Sent from my iPhone 0was --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- 0was 0was To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net 0was 0was You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: 0was http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html 0was or at the public Mail Archive: 0was http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. 0was Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: 0was http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml 0was 0was As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. 0was 0was Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: 0was http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac
Re: Bootcamp
Mark and All, One of the most memorable lessons I learned as an instructor is be open to all kinds of questions, and to remember, no question is a stupid, or dumb question. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. On Jun 5, 2014, at 4:22 AM, David Griffith wrote: Fusion is a way of running Windows on a Mac, it means that you can run Windows within the Mac session itself. I googled Windows Fusion for Mac and came up with the following page which should answer most of your questions. http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/fusion -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: 05 June 2014 04:07 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bootcamp Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own
Re: Bootcamp
Gordon Smith put an excellent podcast on how to install Windows on a Mac, using Fusion. (Www.blindcooltek.com.) Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2014, at 4:23 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: Fusion is a way of running Windows on a Mac, it means that you can run Windows within the Mac session itself. I googled Windows Fusion for Mac and came up with the following page which should answer most of your questions. http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/fusion -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: 05 June 2014 04:07 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bootcamp Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace
Re: Bootcamp
Is that there. The last time I looked up there it was no longer on it. On Jun 7, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Richie Gardenhire richie.gardenh...@gmail.com wrote: Gordon Smith put an excellent podcast on how to install Windows on a Mac, using Fusion. (Www.blindcooltek.com.) Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2014, at 4:23 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: Fusion is a way of running Windows on a Mac, it means that you can run Windows within the Mac session itself. I googled Windows Fusion for Mac and came up with the following page which should answer most of your questions. http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/fusion -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: 05 June 2014 04:07 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bootcamp Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml
Re: Bootcamp
Perhaps it's no longer there, since at the time, Tiger was the OS circulating. That said, when I checked a while back, it was still there, but I'm not sure now if it's still there, since I guess they can only keep podcasts on up to a certain time limit, sort of like the statute of limitations for certain laws. LOL... Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. On Jun 7, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Matthew Carello wrote: Is that there. The last time I looked up there it was no longer on it. On Jun 7, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Richie Gardenhire richie.gardenh...@gmail.com wrote: Gordon Smith put an excellent podcast on how to install Windows on a Mac, using Fusion. (Www.blindcooltek.com.) Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2014, at 4:23 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: Fusion is a way of running Windows on a Mac, it means that you can run Windows within the Mac session itself. I googled Windows Fusion for Mac and came up with the following page which should answer most of your questions. http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/fusion -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: 05 June 2014 04:07 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bootcamp Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac- Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/ maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac- Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac- Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find
Re: Bootcamp
Fusion is an app. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 05/06/2014 04:06, Mark wrote: Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bootcamp
can you expand any more on that Chris? Eleanor Martha Burke On 5 Jun 2014, at 07:34, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Fusion is an app. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 05/06/2014 04:06, Mark wrote: Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access
Re: Bootcamp
sometimes smart answers one sentence I agree with you if somebody is going to take the trouble to respond it would be nice to have a proper explanation rather than one liners Eleanor Martha Burke On 5 Jun 2014, at 04:06, Mark arosind...@me.com wrote: Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Bootcamp
I think a lot of us try hard to help others on this list but that is not all that we do. Sometimes we only have time to give a brief answer. Most of , if not all of the basic questions for clarifications people ask for could be resolved by a simple Google search. I understand that some people may find a Google search difficult but To criticise those on the list who try to help for lack of application and effort is I think completely wrong. This is most especially the case when often listers asking questions have clearly not even bothered to take the effort to learn how to research an issue on Google or perhaps Wikipedia themselves.Those of us who try to help by answering questions most often do so patiently despite this obvious lack of effort so it does not fit well with me when, fairly bizarrely, people trying to help are criticised for lack of effort. I am happy to spoon feed information and if necessary consult Google and Wikipedia and other sources for answers on others behalf but I do not think any of us have the right to demand more from list members who are only, in the end, trying to help. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke Sent: 05 June 2014 09:16 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bootcamp sometimes smart answers one sentence I agree with you if somebody is going to take the trouble to respond it would be nice to have a proper explanation rather than one liners Eleanor Martha Burke On 5 Jun 2014, at 04:06, Mark arosind...@me.com wrote: Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen
Re: Bootcamp
Fusion is an app that allows you to run other operating systems, like windows, on your Mac. It is a viable alternative to installing windows on the mac via the Bootcamp utility. With bootcamp, you have to split you hard disk into logical partitions and install the windows OS on one of those dedicated partitions, and then select which OS you want to run at boot up time. You’ll also need a sighted assistant to do the windows installation. With fusion, you don’t do any partitioning, and you don’t have to boot up into one or the other OS, you can just switch between Mac and Windows as you would switch between any other set of programs on your mac. Also, the installation can be done without sighted assistance. . BTW: in the time it took you to chastise the woman, you could have written out a simple paragraph explaining the basics of Fusion vs Bootcamp. I also don’t care much for the “one-liner” type of answers. It reminds me of the people, kids mostly, who are just too cool to speak clearly and plainly, or give a full answer to a reasonable question. I mean, why bothering answering at all if you can’t give it a decent effort? A neighbor once told me when I was shoveling her walk, “just because you’re doing me a favor doesn’t mean you can do a crappy job”. Oh well, just my two cents worth. I turn sixty in a few months and this is what happens when you get old and opinionated. . On Jun 5, 2014, at 5:30 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: I think a lot of us try hard to help others on this list but that is not all that we do. Sometimes we only have time to give a brief answer. Most of , if not all of the basic questions for clarifications people ask for could be resolved by a simple Google search. I understand that some people may find a Google search difficult but To criticise those on the list who try to help for lack of application and effort is I think completely wrong. This is most especially the case when often listers asking questions have clearly not even bothered to take the effort to learn how to research an issue on Google or perhaps Wikipedia themselves.Those of us who try to help by answering questions most often do so patiently despite this obvious lack of effort so it does not fit well with me when, fairly bizarrely, people trying to help are criticised for lack of effort. I am happy to spoon feed information and if necessary consult Google and Wikipedia and other sources for answers on others behalf but I do not think any of us have the right to demand more from list members who are only, in the end, trying to help. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke Sent: 05 June 2014 09:16 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bootcamp sometimes smart answers one sentence I agree with you if somebody is going to take the trouble to respond it would be nice to have a proper explanation rather than one liners Eleanor Martha Burke On 5 Jun 2014, at 04:06, Mark arosind...@me.com wrote: Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft
RE: Bootcamp
Fusion is a way of running Windows on a Mac, it means that you can run Windows within the Mac session itself. I googled Windows Fusion for Mac and came up with the following page which should answer most of your questions. http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/fusion -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: 05 June 2014 04:07 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Bootcamp Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bootcamp
When I Bootcamped my MacBook I was expecting to be bothered with the hassle of having to boot to one or the other, but I'm definitely not. I've used VMware Fusion in the past and found both pros and cons to it vs. Bootcamp. These pros and cons could make a good discussion here. I'm sure different people have different opinions that would be interesting. Sue B. On Jun 5, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Fusion is an app that allows you to run other operating systems, like windows, on your Mac. It is a viable alternative to installing windows on the mac via the Bootcamp utility. With bootcamp, you have to split you hard disk into logical partitions and install the windows OS on one of those dedicated partitions, and then select which OS you want to run at boot up time. You’ll also need a sighted assistant to do the windows installation. With fusion, you don’t do any partitioning, and you don’t have to boot up into one or the other OS, you can just switch between Mac and Windows as you would switch between any other set of programs on your mac. Also, the installation can be done without sighted assistance. .. BTW: in the time it took you to chastise the woman, you could have written out a simple paragraph explaining the basics of Fusion vs Bootcamp. I also don’t care much for the “one-liner” type of answers. It reminds me of the people, kids mostly, who are just too cool to speak clearly and plainly, or give a full answer to a reasonable question. I mean, why bothering answering at all if you can’t give it a decent effort? A neighbor once told me when I was shoveling her walk, “just because you’re doing me a favor doesn’t mean you can do a crappy job”. Oh well, just my two cents worth. I turn sixty in a few months and this is what happens when you get old and opinionated. . On Jun 5, 2014, at 5:30 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: I think a lot of us try hard to help others on this list but that is not all that we do. Sometimes we only have time to give a brief answer. Most of , if not all of the basic questions for clarifications people ask for could be resolved by a simple Google search. I understand that some people may find a Google search difficult but To criticise those on the l --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bootcamp
It is a shame though we can’t install windows on our own though On Jun 5, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Sue s...@mindspring.com wrote: When I Bootcamped my MacBook I was expecting to be bothered with the hassle of having to boot to one or the other, but I'm definitely not. I've used VMware Fusion in the past and found both pros and cons to it vs. Bootcamp. These pros and cons could make a good discussion here. I'm sure different people have different opinions that would be interesting. Sue B. On Jun 5, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: Fusion is an app that allows you to run other operating systems, like windows, on your Mac. It is a viable alternative to installing windows on the mac via the Bootcamp utility. With bootcamp, you have to split you hard disk into logical partitions and install the windows OS on one of those dedicated partitions, and then select which OS you want to run at boot up time. You’ll also need a sighted assistant to do the windows installation. With fusion, you don’t do any partitioning, and you don’t have to boot up into one or the other OS, you can just switch between Mac and Windows as you would switch between any other set of programs on your mac. Also, the installation can be done without sighted assistance. .. BTW: in the time it took you to chastise the woman, you could have written out a simple paragraph explaining the basics of Fusion vs Bootcamp. I also don’t care much for the “one-liner” type of answers. It reminds me of the people, kids mostly, who are just too cool to speak clearly and plainly, or give a full answer to a reasonable question. I mean, why bothering answering at all if you can’t give it a decent effort? A neighbor once told me when I was shoveling her walk, “just because you’re doing me a favor doesn’t mean you can do a crappy job”. Oh well, just my two cents worth. I turn sixty in a few months and this is what happens when you get old and opinionated. . On Jun 5, 2014, at 5:30 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: I think a lot of us try hard to help others on this list but that is not all that we do. Sometimes we only have time to give a brief answer. Most of , if not all of the basic questions for clarifications people ask for could be resolved by a simple Google search. I understand that some people may find a Google search difficult but To criticise those on the l --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bootcamp
Fusion is an app to run Windows on your mac side by side with no rebooting required. If you can go to www.vmware.com/fusion Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 05/06/2014 09:12, eleanor martha burke wrote: can you expand any more on that Chris? Eleanor Martha Burke On 5 Jun 2014, at 07:34, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Fusion is an app. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 05/06/2014 04:06, Mark wrote: Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman
Bootcamp
hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Bootcamp
Not on the Mac side but I suspect you still will on the Windows install side. Fusion can handle all this nicely for you on the Mac though. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 04 June 2014 23:33 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Bootcamp hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bootcamp
It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Bootcamp
Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin orin8...@gmail.com wrote: It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days? regards Wil Sent from my iPhone --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
downloading bootcamp drivers a no go?
Ok, it's been 3 years since I've done this. I'm stuck at the first step as I want to dl the drivers for the boot camp thingy. don't worry I will not discuss setting up windows on the list. *smiles* I tried to dl the windows drivers apple needs to run the boot camp software and I have the drive formatted properly. I get this though when I attempt to dl the drivers. Can't install the software because it is not currently available from the Software Update server. I am fully aware my mac only supports win7 and that's fine as that's all I have. lol! I also checked the apple support forums and they are suggesting to dl the drivers on to another mac. Well, I don't have another mac. I've been trying since yesterday to get this done and it has not happened. Any advice besides try again. I already did with the same results. I'm fine after this step as I can just follow the prompts and ask any further questions on the windows access list. Take care. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: downloading bootcamp drivers a no go?
Hi there, May be I can help you out. I am running ML 10.8.5. I have been able to download the bootcamp drivers to my USB thumb drive If it is compatible, I can try to send the downloaded files to you off list. Would that work? Let me know and I'll try to send it. I won't discuss my frustrations trying to install Win 8 here. That's for another list serve. HTH. Cheers, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, it's been 3 years since I've done this. I'm stuck at the first step as I want to dl the drivers for the boot camp thingy. don't worry I will not discuss setting up windows on the list. *smiles* I tried to dl the windows drivers apple needs to run the boot camp software and I have the drive formatted properly. I get this though when I attempt to dl the drivers. Can't install the software because it is not currently available from the Software Update server. I am fully aware my mac only supports win7 and that's fine as that's all I have. lol! I also checked the apple support forums and they are suggesting to dl the drivers on to another mac. Well, I don't have another mac. I've been trying since yesterday to get this done and it has not happened. Any advice besides try again. I already did with the same results. I'm fine after this step as I can just follow the prompts and ask any further questions on the windows access list. Take care. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: downloading bootcamp drivers a no go?
Ihear they are universal, but not doing this for 3 years has not done me any good. Why I'm having this trouble in the first place is beyond me and the forums just are of no hep as they just say keep trying. I'll wait until I get an affirmative before going ahead with that. Take care and be blessed. On Mar 3, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, May be I can help you out. I am running ML 10.8.5. I have been able to download the bootcamp drivers to my USB thumb drive If it is compatible, I can try to send the downloaded files to you off list. Would that work? Let me know and I'll try to send it. I won't discuss my frustrations trying to install Win 8 here. That's for another list serve. HTH. Cheers, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, it's been 3 years since I've done this. I'm stuck at the first step as I want to dl the drivers for the boot camp thingy. don't worry I will not discuss setting up windows on the list. *smiles* I tried to dl the windows drivers apple needs to run the boot camp software and I have the drive formatted properly. I get this though when I attempt to dl the drivers. Can't install the software because it is not currently available from the Software Update server. I am fully aware my mac only supports win7 and that's fine as that's all I have. lol! I also checked the apple support forums and they are suggesting to dl the drivers on to another mac. Well, I don't have another mac. I've been trying since yesterday to get this done and it has not happened. Any advice besides try again. I already did with the same results. I'm fine after this step as I can just follow the prompts and ask any further questions on the windows access list. Take care. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
configuring bootcamp for windows seven
hi all i am trying to get my internal flash dis of the air to configure for the bootcamp program. i have used a USB drive to put windows on and the support software and now when i run the utility it bought i could partition my existing internal HD it states though can do this as some files can't be moved, use disc utility to make it a single partition but it is? any thought please? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
when i use bootcamp on my macbook air
hi all i am trying to put windows on my mac using a USB flash drive where the ISO of seven is copied. i get this error though when i load up the bootcamp assistant to free some space on my internal mac drive The disk cannot be partitioned because some files cannot be moved. Back up the disk and use Disk Utility to format it as a single Mac OS Extended (Journaled) volume. Restore your information to the disk and try using Boot Camp Assistant again. it is not partitioned, the internal disc? any ideas please WIll --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: configuring bootcamp for windows seven
You may not find this advice that useful but I spent a lot of time and frustration trying to set up a working boot camp partition on my I-Mac. There were too many problems to list here. The point is that after spending all this time to set Boot camp up, I never use it, particularly as the default environment is very restricted , especially with regards to disk space. It also takes an absolute age to switch from one environment to another. Windows 7 Boot camp on my Imac takes ages to load. Putting Boot camp on has slowed my Mac start-up as well. I am seriously thinking of getting rid of it. It is staying just for the unforeseen sod's law that if I get rid of it there will be a reason emerge which means that I should not have done it. If I ever need Windows on my Mac I use Fusion which is simple to set up without the restrictions of partition size etc. Increasingly though I use the Mac for Mac stuff and a Windows Laptop, which I am on now for work and Windows stuff. When I got my Mac I saw it as a holy grail to get a single all in one singing and dancing multi-operating system. In practice , given how cheap windows machines are I think it is not a route I would now recommend. The only possible exception would be a fusion set up which can be convenient for occasional windows usage. I would stick to using your Mac for Mac OS, at which it is very good, rather than Mac for Windows which it is, in my view, very flaky. David Griffith. . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 06 February 2013 12:02 To: mac-access@mac-access.net iOS Accessibility Subject: configuring bootcamp for windows seven hi all i am trying to get my internal flash dis of the air to configure for the bootcamp program. i have used a USB drive to put windows on and the support software and now when i run the utility it bought i could partition my existing internal HD it states though can do this as some files can't be moved, use disc utility to make it a single partition but it is? any thought please? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: configuring bootcamp for windows seven
problem is you see the air i have has 2 gigs ram so guess can't use fusion comfortably really with seven On 6 Feb 2013, at 13:16, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: You may not find this advice that useful but I spent a lot of time and frustration trying to set up a working boot camp partition on my I-Mac. There were too many problems to list here. The point is that after spending all this time to set Boot camp up, I never use it, particularly as the default environment is very restricted , especially with regards to disk space. It also takes an absolute age to switch from one environment to another. Windows 7 Boot camp on my Imac takes ages to load. Putting Boot camp on has slowed my Mac start-up as well. I am seriously thinking of getting rid of it. It is staying just for the unforeseen sod's law that if I get rid of it there will be a reason emerge which means that I should not have done it. If I ever need Windows on my Mac I use Fusion which is simple to set up without the restrictions of partition size etc. Increasingly though I use the Mac for Mac stuff and a Windows Laptop, which I am on now for work and Windows stuff. When I got my Mac I saw it as a holy grail to get a single all in one singing and dancing multi-operating system. In practice , given how cheap windows machines are I think it is not a route I would now recommend. The only possible exception would be a fusion set up which can be convenient for occasional windows usage. I would stick to using your Mac for Mac OS, at which it is very good, rather than Mac for Windows which it is, in my view, very flaky. David Griffith. . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 06 February 2013 12:02 To: mac-access@mac-access.net iOS Accessibility Subject: configuring bootcamp for windows seven hi all i am trying to get my internal flash dis of the air to configure for the bootcamp program. i have used a USB drive to put windows on and the support software and now when i run the utility it bought i could partition my existing internal HD it states though can do this as some files can't be moved, use disc utility to make it a single partition but it is? any thought please? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm
Re: configuring bootcamp for windows seven
I don't know, I installed bootcamp and it went as smooth as warm milk through a puppy. Windows runs fine, it doesn't slow anything down, there are absolutely no problems. Wish I could help you. - Original Message - From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 8:16 AM Subject: RE: configuring bootcamp for windows seven You may not find this advice that useful but I spent a lot of time and frustration trying to set up a working boot camp partition on my I-Mac. There were too many problems to list here. The point is that after spending all this time to set Boot camp up, I never use it, particularly as the default environment is very restricted , especially with regards to disk space. It also takes an absolute age to switch from one environment to another. Windows 7 Boot camp on my Imac takes ages to load. Putting Boot camp on has slowed my Mac start-up as well. I am seriously thinking of getting rid of it. It is staying just for the unforeseen sod's law that if I get rid of it there will be a reason emerge which means that I should not have done it. If I ever need Windows on my Mac I use Fusion which is simple to set up without the restrictions of partition size etc. Increasingly though I use the Mac for Mac stuff and a Windows Laptop, which I am on now for work and Windows stuff. When I got my Mac I saw it as a holy grail to get a single all in one singing and dancing multi-operating system. In practice , given how cheap windows machines are I think it is not a route I would now recommend. The only possible exception would be a fusion set up which can be convenient for occasional windows usage. I would stick to using your Mac for Mac OS, at which it is very good, rather than Mac for Windows which it is, in my view, very flaky. David Griffith. . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 06 February 2013 12:02 To: mac-access@mac-access.net iOS Accessibility Subject: configuring bootcamp for windows seven hi all i am trying to get my internal flash dis of the air to configure for the bootcamp program. i have used a USB drive to put windows on and the support software and now when i run the utility it bought i could partition my existing internal HD it states though can do this as some files can't be moved, use disc utility to make it a single partition but it is? any thought please? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac
RE: configuring bootcamp for windows seven
As a matter of interest is that XP or Windows 7? I have seen on other lists that people installing XP have no problems but people using Windows 7 under Lion especially are plagued by slowness and flaky set up so it is a known issue and not just my setup. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: 06 February 2013 14:38 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: configuring bootcamp for windows seven I don't know, I installed bootcamp and it went as smooth as warm milk through a puppy. Windows runs fine, it doesn't slow anything down, there are absolutely no problems. Wish I could help you. - Original Message - From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 8:16 AM Subject: RE: configuring bootcamp for windows seven You may not find this advice that useful but I spent a lot of time and frustration trying to set up a working boot camp partition on my I-Mac. There were too many problems to list here. The point is that after spending all this time to set Boot camp up, I never use it, particularly as the default environment is very restricted , especially with regards to disk space. It also takes an absolute age to switch from one environment to another. Windows 7 Boot camp on my Imac takes ages to load. Putting Boot camp on has slowed my Mac start-up as well. I am seriously thinking of getting rid of it. It is staying just for the unforeseen sod's law that if I get rid of it there will be a reason emerge which means that I should not have done it. If I ever need Windows on my Mac I use Fusion which is simple to set up without the restrictions of partition size etc. Increasingly though I use the Mac for Mac stuff and a Windows Laptop, which I am on now for work and Windows stuff. When I got my Mac I saw it as a holy grail to get a single all in one singing and dancing multi-operating system. In practice , given how cheap windows machines are I think it is not a route I would now recommend. The only possible exception would be a fusion set up which can be convenient for occasional windows usage. I would stick to using your Mac for Mac OS, at which it is very good, rather than Mac for Windows which it is, in my view, very flaky. David Griffith. . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 06 February 2013 12:02 To: mac-access@mac-access.net iOS Accessibility Subject: configuring bootcamp for windows seven hi all i am trying to get my internal flash dis of the air to configure for the bootcamp program. i have used a USB drive to put windows on and the support software and now when i run the utility it bought i could partition my existing internal HD it states though can do this as some files can't be moved, use disc utility to make it a single partition but it is? any thought please? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership
Re: configuring bootcamp for windows seven
it's windows 7 64bit home premium - Original Message - From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: RE: configuring bootcamp for windows seven As a matter of interest is that XP or Windows 7? I have seen on other lists that people installing XP have no problems but people using Windows 7 under Lion especially are plagued by slowness and flaky set up so it is a known issue and not just my setup. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Phil Halton Sent: 06 February 2013 14:38 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: configuring bootcamp for windows seven I don't know, I installed bootcamp and it went as smooth as warm milk through a puppy. Windows runs fine, it doesn't slow anything down, there are absolutely no problems. Wish I could help you. - Original Message - From: David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 8:16 AM Subject: RE: configuring bootcamp for windows seven You may not find this advice that useful but I spent a lot of time and frustration trying to set up a working boot camp partition on my I-Mac. There were too many problems to list here. The point is that after spending all this time to set Boot camp up, I never use it, particularly as the default environment is very restricted , especially with regards to disk space. It also takes an absolute age to switch from one environment to another. Windows 7 Boot camp on my Imac takes ages to load. Putting Boot camp on has slowed my Mac start-up as well. I am seriously thinking of getting rid of it. It is staying just for the unforeseen sod's law that if I get rid of it there will be a reason emerge which means that I should not have done it. If I ever need Windows on my Mac I use Fusion which is simple to set up without the restrictions of partition size etc. Increasingly though I use the Mac for Mac stuff and a Windows Laptop, which I am on now for work and Windows stuff. When I got my Mac I saw it as a holy grail to get a single all in one singing and dancing multi-operating system. In practice , given how cheap windows machines are I think it is not a route I would now recommend. The only possible exception would be a fusion set up which can be convenient for occasional windows usage. I would stick to using your Mac for Mac OS, at which it is very good, rather than Mac for Windows which it is, in my view, very flaky. David Griffith. . -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas Sent: 06 February 2013 12:02 To: mac-access@mac-access.net iOS Accessibility Subject: configuring bootcamp for windows seven hi all i am trying to get my internal flash dis of the air to configure for the bootcamp program. i have used a USB drive to put windows on and the support software and now when i run the utility it bought i could partition my existing internal HD it states though can do this as some files can't be moved, use disc utility to make it a single partition but it is? any thought please? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However
Re: Can SuperDuper backup a bootcamp partition
Hi Phil, SuperDuper! and Carbon Copy Cloner can backup a Bootcamp partition, but it won't be bootable. You probably need something like Winclone. I believe that the combination of CCC and Winclone is used by some Bootcamp users, but I don't know about SuperDuper! + Winclone. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Phil Haltonphilh...@comcast.net wrote: It seems like SuperDuper should be able to backup a bootcamp partition, but I have a feeling it isn't that simple. anybody know if this can be done? Would it run into trouble making the backup a bootable image - just guessing? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Windows 7 bootcamp installation guide
Would anyone on list who has installed windows7 via bootcamp care to write up a little guide for those of us who are about to take the plunge? It wouldn't have to be anything too elaborate. I'd just like to know what I'm getting into before wading in. Particularly, what is the step-by-step procedure, and at what points will I be in need of sighted assistance? I plan to install windows 7 64-bit edition on a late 2011 iMac QuadCore I5 with 8gb ram and 500GB HD. Is this something I can do without sighted assistance? Thanks for any help. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Windows 7 bootcamp installation guide
Hello Phil Since this isn't really on topic for Mac Access, and I will explain why, it really isn't a thread for this group. The reason this isn't on topic is that Windows 7 installation under Boot Camp is exactly the same as Windows 7 installation on your PC. Therefore, in no respect other than the fact that the hardware platform happens to be Apple, is this a Mac related topic. I'm sorry to be so strict, but we cannot afford to have this kind of traffic populating the group as we are Mac OS and iOS only. Configuration of Boot Camp itself is on topic; but *not* the installation of Windows. By all means join our sister groups, Techno-Chat and Windows-Access and discuss these topics if you wish. Lynne == Gordon, Lynne And Tracy; supp...@mac-access.net Telephone Support: If you need our help, you can call us directly. United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada:S.: +1 646 9151493 Australia: +61 38 8205930 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Please Note: All Support Requests By Phone Will Be Handled By Gordon. Follow Us On Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/@maciosaccess Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, is a totally non-profit organisation whose aims are to assist and support sensory-impaired people who wish to get the very best out of their Apple products and services. -- On 24 Sep 2012, at 19:42, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: Would anyone on list who has installed windows7 via bootcamp care to write up a little guide for those of us who are about to take the plunge? It wouldn't have to be anything too elaborate. I'd just like to know what I'm getting into before wading in. Particularly, what is the step-by-step procedure, and at what points will I be in need of sighted assistance? I plan to install windows 7 64-bit edition on a late 2011 iMac QuadCore I5 with 8gb ram and 500GB HD. Is this something I can do without sighted assistance? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Windows 7 bootcamp installation guide
understood - Original Message - From: Gordon, Lynne Tracy supp...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Windows 7 bootcamp installation guide Hello Phil Since this isn't really on topic for Mac Access, and I will explain why, it really isn't a thread for this group. The reason this isn't on topic is that Windows 7 installation under Boot Camp is exactly the same as Windows 7 installation on your PC. Therefore, in no respect other than the fact that the hardware platform happens to be Apple, is this a Mac related topic. I'm sorry to be so strict, but we cannot afford to have this kind of traffic populating the group as we are Mac OS and iOS only. Configuration of Boot Camp itself is on topic; but *not* the installation of Windows. By all means join our sister groups, Techno-Chat and Windows-Access and discuss these topics if you wish. Lynne == Gordon, Lynne And Tracy; supp...@mac-access.net Telephone Support: If you need our help, you can call us directly. United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada:S.: +1 646 9151493 Australia: +61 38 8205930 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Please Note: All Support Requests By Phone Will Be Handled By Gordon. Follow Us On Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/@maciosaccess Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, is a totally non-profit organisation whose aims are to assist and support sensory-impaired people who wish to get the very best out of their Apple products and services. -- On 24 Sep 2012, at 19:42, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote: Would anyone on list who has installed windows7 via bootcamp care to write up a little guide for those of us who are about to take the plunge? It wouldn't have to be anything too elaborate. I'd just like to know what I'm getting into before wading in. Particularly, what is the step-by-step procedure, and at what points will I be in need of sighted assistance? I plan to install windows 7 64-bit edition on a late 2011 iMac QuadCore I5 with 8gb ram and 500GB HD. Is this something I can do without sighted assistance? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Partisions VMWare fusion, bootcamp fresh installs.
Ok, the new ability to have caps lock as a modifier in both OS10 and Windows under VM Fusion has decided me to get back those few windows programs and functions that I've been missing since moving over. I'm after suggestions on the safest and most effective way to plan for and carry out a fresh install of Mountain Lion whilst keeping data and as much of my settings intact as possible. I have an early 2011 MBP, own CCC, have a 1.5TB external that I can freshly format as well as owning a copy of Windows 7 and soon VMWare Fusion.. This seems to be most if not all of what I require but I don't want to miss some simple step and find I've walked into a mine field through ignorance. Any suggestions on C.Y.A, process and order of steps on or off list very gratefully appreciated. Kind regards, Danny: --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: BootCamp Question.
i also want o know as i have windows seven installed under fusion i wonder, can i get bootcamp to see that rather than doing another install? On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Jim Noteworthy wrote: Hi Folks: I installed a Windows OS using BootCamp on my MAC Mini Server however, the audio card doesn't work. I've downloaded the updated BootCamp drivers; however, it would appear that I need to hear the sound card in order to install the updated drivers. Is this right? Any help would be appreciated all over the place. Thanks much. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6699 (20111210) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/piper mail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listing/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: BootCamp Question.
Jim, I think the tools need to be installed when windows is installed from your disc but id on't know how this works now, in lion On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Jim Noteworthy wrote: Hi Folks: I installed a Windows OS using BootCamp on my MAC Mini Server however, the audio card doesn't work. I've downloaded the updated BootCamp drivers; however, it would appear that I need to hear the sound card in order to install the updated drivers. Is this right? Any help would be appreciated all over the place. Thanks much. The triune God created human kind to participate, through the Holy Spirit, in the incarnate Son's communion with the Father. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6699 (20111210) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Backing up Bootcamp partition
Hello Zack I have been participating in, and watching this thread and I have a query. My understanding is that, if you want to backup a BC partition from the mac you'd have to use a sector-level backup utility. I don't think either Super Duper! or CCC will allow you to do that because as I understand it they don't backup at the sector level, only files. After much effort and frustrations Gordon has managed to make me understand the various things involved in the way a hard drive works. And I now have a working, although by no means full, understanding of the various differences between things like sectors and clusters, and the different types of partition tables. My understanding is that a FAT or NTFS partition wouldn't be backed up by a standard Mac based backup utility. I know that's true of Super Duper! because it makes it very clear that it does not backup the system and temporary files which Apple recommends not to back up; let alone effectively alien partition types. Yes, if you have a VM in Fusion which is to all intents and purposes a file set within the Mac HD, that's going to be backed up by CCC or Super Duper! But a Boot Camp partition is not; that's my understanding anyway. I'm no expert and please correct me if I am wrong. But that is my limited understanding. Lynne On 2 Sep 2011, at 20:21, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Eric, Your assumption about being able to back up your FUsion VM with CCC is correct. When you don't want your Mac's resources being used by Windows, simply stop the VM. I use a Fusion VM of Windows 7 with 2 GB of ram and it works quite nicely. There's no noticeable slowdown on the Mac side of things. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Backing up Bootcamp partition
Hi Lynn, You're quite correct. CCC or SuperDuper would not back up any bootcamp partition, you'd need another backup utility to do that. I'm not sure what programs are available for such tasks, as I find CCC adequate for my needs. This is probably a good argument in favor of single-file VM configurations, but that's neither here nor there. THe point to all this is yes, Lynn, you're right. :) Yours, Zack. On Sep 3, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: Hello Zack I have been participating in, and watching this thread and I have a query. My understanding is that, if you want to backup a BC partition from the mac you'd have to use a sector-level backup utility. I don't think either Super Duper! or CCC will allow you to do that because as I understand it they don't backup at the sector level, only files. After much effort and frustrations Gordon has managed to make me understand the various things involved in the way a hard drive works. And I now have a working, although by no means full, understanding of the various differences between things like sectors and clusters, and the different types of partition tables. My understanding is that a FAT or NTFS partition wouldn't be backed up by a standard Mac based backup utility. I know that's true of Super Duper! because it makes it very clear that it does not backup the system and temporary files which Apple recommends not to back up; let alone effectively alien partition types. Yes, if you have a VM in Fusion which is to all intents and purposes a file set within the Mac HD, that's going to be backed up by CCC or Super Duper! But a Boot Camp partition is not; that's my understanding anyway. I'm no expert and please correct me if I am wrong. But that is my limited understanding. Lynne On 2 Sep 2011, at 20:21, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Eric, Your assumption about being able to back up your FUsion VM with CCC is correct. When you don't want your Mac's resources being used by Windows, simply stop the VM. I use a Fusion VM of Windows 7 with 2 GB of ram and it works quite nicely. There's no noticeable slowdown on the Mac side of things. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Backing up Bootcamp partition
hello Zack And the point I was trying to make here, but neglected too was that even if you used Fusion and ran your instance of Windows from that using your BC partition which, I am sure, is perfectly possible, that wouldn't enable you to back up the Windows install any more easily. So you'd be looking at a re-installation of Windows using a virtual hard drive which, subsequently, would be extremely easy to backup and re-import at a later time assuming your hardware configuration didn't change. I gather that there are disadvantages as well as advantages with the dynamic hard drive; but it would seem to me that the advantages outweigh the disadvantages if the virtual drive is correctly configured. We have a Windows 7 installation for those rare occasions where it's needed. But it's a virtual drive and it's a 64-bit configuration of Windows rather than a standard 32-bit. We did try the 32-bit version under Fusion and also under Parallels Desktop but we found that even with a screen-reader, the 64-bit version running under Lion which, as we all know, is a native 64-bit OS in itself, performed better than the 32-bit even in native mode. Our machine has 8GB of RAM installed and what we ended up doing was just configuring the Windows machine to use 4GB and leaving 4GB for OSX. It did work with 2GB assigned for either OS but we ultimately decided that for the sake of simplicity we'd do it that way. I'm not going to go down the road of Windows backup utilities; but there is one which we were recommended by Dane actually and it seems to be quite good. It runs under Windows; so I won't talk about it here. I'll gladly do so on Techno-chat if those who are members are interested. If you want to join, the email address to do so is: techno-chat-requ...@techno-chat.net Lynne On 3 Sep 2011, at 08:44, Zachary Kline wrote: • You're quite correct. CCC or SuperDuper would not back up any bootcamp partition, you'd need another backup utility to do that. I'm not sure what programs are available for such tasks, as I find CCC adequate for my needs. This is probably a good argument in favor of single-file VM configurations, but that's neither here nor there. THe point to all this is yes, Lynn, you're right. :) --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Backing up Bootcamp partition
Hi All, I don't use Windows through BootCamp or VMWare Fusion, but I thought I would quote the results of a Google search from the Carbon Copy Cloner FAQ: http://help.bombich.com/kb/troubleshooting/can-ccc-back-up-my-bootcamp-windows-partition begin quote Home → Knowledge Base → Frequently Asked Questions and Troubleshooting → Can CCC back up my BootCamp (Windows) partition? CCC can back up the contents of the Boot Camp partition, but it cannot make a bootable clone of the partition. If your goal is to back up your user data on the Boot Camp partition, CCC will meet your needs. If you're looking to migrate your Boot Camp partition to a new hard drive, you might consider an alternative solution such as WinClone, or one of the commercial virtualization solutions that offer a migration strategy from Boot Camp. end quote To reiterate the points that both Zack and Lynne have made, CCC cannot make a bootable clone that includes a separate BootCamp partition, but it can create a bootable clone that includes a VMWare Fusion virtualized image made using the BootCamp partition -- however, you would not be running BootCamp if you used this bootable clone, but instead accessing Windows through VMWare Fusion. I'll add that neither Carbon Copy Cloner nor SuperDuper! will back up the recovery partition that gets installed on your hard drive with Lion. This is the small partition that lets you hold down Command-R at start up or the Option key at boot time to select and start up from that partition. You can create external recovery disks with Lion Recovery Disk Assistant, as outlined in the Take Control of Upgrading to Lion guide or in the recent TidBITS article, Lion Recovery Disk Assistant Creates External Recovery Drives: http://tidbits.com/article/12411 I'll list a few of the answers that have appeared in the Apple Discussion forums for backup tools that will handle cloning the BootCamp partition. Most users preferred to handle the Mac partition backups with either SuperDuper! or CCC. Although some of the following can handle both, they may be meant primarily for drive imaging, so there are other tradeoffs (e.g., take much longer, fewer backup/restore options with more specific functionality, etc.) • CopyCatX 5.0 from SubRosaSoft.com: http://www.subrosasoft.com/OSXSoftware/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=7 • Clone X 4 from TRI-EDRE: http://www.tri-edre.com/english/clonex.html (The French web page is: http://www.tri-edre.com/fr/clonex.html ) * Paragon HD Manager 2011 or Paragon Backup Recovery 10 Home: http://www.paragon-software.com/home/hdm-personal/ http://www.paragon-software.com/home/brh/features.html (I'm not sure whether you run this from BootCamp; the description of how someone used the Backup Partition option of HD Manager 2011 to boot from DVD sounded as though it might not be accessible.) The inability to use Winclone under Lion and its lack of current development/support was mentioned, and it wasn't clear whether Clonezilla, a solution that worked under Snow Leopard and which is free and open source software, would also work under Lion. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 2, 2011, at 21:44, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Lynn, You're quite correct. CCC or SuperDuper would not back up any bootcamp partition, you'd need another backup utility to do that. I'm not sure what programs are available for such tasks, as I find CCC adequate for my needs. This is probably a good argument in favor of single-file VM configurations, but that's neither here nor there. THe point to all this is yes, Lynn, you're right. :) Yours, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Backing up Bootcamp partition
Gordon, I didn't know about Win clone I Googled it, downloaded it, ran it, and no go it only works on Leopard and Snowy, On one site it alsop said it was discontinued. I don't know if that means on that site or in general. The version I found was 2.2. Is there another option out there? Eric Caron. I have all ready had Windows 7 and Jaws give mme headaches and would like to revert to a time when things were working right. This would save me time and give me peace of mind. I wish CCC could do this but thought I read somewhere that it doesn't do the bootcamp partition as it does the Mac partition. suggestions greatly appreciated! Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Have you tried WinClone? Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: Hi folks, I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. Tips would be greatly appreciated. I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. Eric Caron --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Backing up Bootcamp partition
Hi Gordon and others, Perhaps I need to use VM Fusion? I don't use windows much so bootcamp was good enough for me. also I only have 4 GB ram so I did not want to share resources. If I were to instal VM Fusion would windows then back up with CCC as part of my Macintosh HD? Also, Can I just not run the VM when I want my mac to use all resources including the 4 GB ram? I love the security of having a bootable backup that has everything there thee way it was when things were working well. Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Eric We neither of us knew about that discontinuation of the software, sorry about that. Actually this is something that you should be able to get over by doing a sector-level backup of the hard drive. I'm sure there are Mac utilities out there which do that. I will investigate. Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 17:15, Eric Caron wrote: Gordon, I didn't know about Win clone I Googled it, downloaded it, ran it, and no go it only works on Leopard and Snowy, On one site it alsop said it was discontinued. I don't know if that means on that site or in general. The version I found was 2.2. Is there another option out there? Eric Caron. I have all ready had Windows 7 and Jaws give mme headaches and would like to revert to a time when things were working right. This would save me time and give me peace of mind. I wish CCC could do this but thought I read somewhere that it doesn't do the bootcamp partition as it does the Mac partition. suggestions greatly appreciated! Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Have you tried WinClone? Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: Hi folks, I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. Tips would be greatly appreciated. I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. Eric Caron --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan
Re: Backing up Bootcamp partition
Eric Fusion isn't a backup utility, so you'd be no better off. Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 20:09, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Gordon and others, Perhaps I need to use VM Fusion? I don't use windows much so bootcamp was good enough for me. also I only have 4 GB ram so I did not want to share resources. If I were to instal VM Fusion would windows then back up with CCC as part of my Macintosh HD? Also, Can I just not run the VM when I want my mac to use all resources including the 4 GB ram? I love the security of having a bootable backup that has everything there thee way it was when things were working well. Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Eric We neither of us knew about that discontinuation of the software, sorry about that. Actually this is something that you should be able to get over by doing a sector-level backup of the hard drive. I'm sure there are Mac utilities out there which do that. I will investigate. Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 17:15, Eric Caron wrote: Gordon, I didn't know about Win clone I Googled it, downloaded it, ran it, and no go it only works on Leopard and Snowy, On one site it alsop said it was discontinued. I don't know if that means on that site or in general. The version I found was 2.2. Is there another option out there? Eric Caron. I have all ready had Windows 7 and Jaws give mme headaches and would like to revert to a time when things were working right. This would save me time and give me peace of mind. I wish CCC could do this but thought I read somewhere that it doesn't do the bootcamp partition as it does the Mac partition. suggestions greatly appreciated! Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Have you tried WinClone? Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: Hi folks, I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. Tips would be greatly appreciated. I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. Eric Caron --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail
Re: Backing up Bootcamp partition
Hi Eric, Your assumption about being able to back up your FUsion VM with CCC is correct. When you don't want your Mac's resources being used by Windows, simply stop the VM. I use a Fusion VM of Windows 7 with 2 GB of ram and it works quite nicely. There's no noticeable slowdown on the Mac side of things. Yours, Zack. On Sep 2, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Gordon and others, Perhaps I need to use VM Fusion? I don't use windows much so bootcamp was good enough for me. also I only have 4 GB ram so I did not want to share resources. If I were to instal VM Fusion would windows then back up with CCC as part of my Macintosh HD? Also, Can I just not run the VM when I want my mac to use all resources including the 4 GB ram? I love the security of having a bootable backup that has everything there thee way it was when things were working well. Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Eric We neither of us knew about that discontinuation of the software, sorry about that. Actually this is something that you should be able to get over by doing a sector-level backup of the hard drive. I'm sure there are Mac utilities out there which do that. I will investigate. Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 17:15, Eric Caron wrote: Gordon, I didn't know about Win clone I Googled it, downloaded it, ran it, and no go it only works on Leopard and Snowy, On one site it alsop said it was discontinued. I don't know if that means on that site or in general. The version I found was 2.2. Is there another option out there? Eric Caron. I have all ready had Windows 7 and Jaws give mme headaches and would like to revert to a time when things were working right. This would save me time and give me peace of mind. I wish CCC could do this but thought I read somewhere that it doesn't do the bootcamp partition as it does the Mac partition. suggestions greatly appreciated! Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Have you tried WinClone? Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: Hi folks, I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. Tips would be greatly appreciated. I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. Eric Caron --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access
Re: Backing up Bootcamp partition
I was hoping that once VM Fusion was running with Windows CCC would consider it part of the Macintosh HD and just back up the whole thing. I could then ultimately ditch bootcamp. It sounds like that is not the case. So other solutions would be greatly appreciated! Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Eric Fusion isn't a backup utility, so you'd be no better off. Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 20:09, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Gordon and others, Perhaps I need to use VM Fusion? I don't use windows much so bootcamp was good enough for me. also I only have 4 GB ram so I did not want to share resources. If I were to instal VM Fusion would windows then back up with CCC as part of my Macintosh HD? Also, Can I just not run the VM when I want my mac to use all resources including the 4 GB ram? I love the security of having a bootable backup that has everything there thee way it was when things were working well. Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Eric We neither of us knew about that discontinuation of the software, sorry about that. Actually this is something that you should be able to get over by doing a sector-level backup of the hard drive. I'm sure there are Mac utilities out there which do that. I will investigate. Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 17:15, Eric Caron wrote: Gordon, I didn't know about Win clone I Googled it, downloaded it, ran it, and no go it only works on Leopard and Snowy, On one site it alsop said it was discontinued. I don't know if that means on that site or in general. The version I found was 2.2. Is there another option out there? Eric Caron. I have all ready had Windows 7 and Jaws give mme headaches and would like to revert to a time when things were working right. This would save me time and give me peace of mind. I wish CCC could do this but thought I read somewhere that it doesn't do the bootcamp partition as it does the Mac partition. suggestions greatly appreciated! Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Have you tried WinClone? Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: Hi folks, I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. Tips would be greatly appreciated. I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. Eric Caron --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac
Re: Backing up Bootcamp partition
Hi Eric, THe question is whether or not you're running a VM with a virtualized hard disk. If you do that, then yes, the VM is just one more file for CCC to back up on your Macintosh HD. If not, and you use the Bootcamp partition with Fusion, I'm not sure what happens, as I've never needed that setup myself. Hope this explanation clears things up a bit. Best, Zack. On Sep 2, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Eric Caron wrote: I was hoping that once VM Fusion was running with Windows CCC would consider it part of the Macintosh HD and just back up the whole thing. I could then ultimately ditch bootcamp. It sounds like that is not the case. So other solutions would be greatly appreciated! Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Eric Fusion isn't a backup utility, so you'd be no better off. Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 20:09, Eric Caron wrote: Hi Gordon and others, Perhaps I need to use VM Fusion? I don't use windows much so bootcamp was good enough for me. also I only have 4 GB ram so I did not want to share resources. If I were to instal VM Fusion would windows then back up with CCC as part of my Macintosh HD? Also, Can I just not run the VM when I want my mac to use all resources including the 4 GB ram? I love the security of having a bootable backup that has everything there thee way it was when things were working well. Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Eric We neither of us knew about that discontinuation of the software, sorry about that. Actually this is something that you should be able to get over by doing a sector-level backup of the hard drive. I'm sure there are Mac utilities out there which do that. I will investigate. Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 17:15, Eric Caron wrote: Gordon, I didn't know about Win clone I Googled it, downloaded it, ran it, and no go it only works on Leopard and Snowy, On one site it alsop said it was discontinued. I don't know if that means on that site or in general. The version I found was 2.2. Is there another option out there? Eric Caron. I have all ready had Windows 7 and Jaws give mme headaches and would like to revert to a time when things were working right. This would save me time and give me peace of mind. I wish CCC could do this but thought I read somewhere that it doesn't do the bootcamp partition as it does the Mac partition. suggestions greatly appreciated! Eric Caron On Sep 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Have you tried WinClone? Gordon On 2 Sep 2011, at 05:16, Eric Caron wrote: Hi folks, I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. Tips would be greatly appreciated. I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. Eric Caron --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail
Backing up Bootcamp partition
Hi folks, I now have a working Windows 7 partition on my Macbook. I currently use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up my Mac HD. I also have Time machine running as well. I don't want to have to go through the process of getting Windows up again. How do I best back up this Bootcamp partition so that if I have a Hard disk disaster I can not only restore my Macintosh HD with Carbon Copy Cloner but also put that Bootcamp partition back? Can I simply use CCC and back it up to a partition? If I do that and copy it back would it work the same or no longer be bootable? I'd like to back up from the Mac side if at all possible as I am most comfortable on the Mac. I would prefer not having to instal Windows again and it has all ready caused me several frustrating hours. being able to back up as I do with Carbon Copy Cloner on the Mac side would be great but only if the partition then works normally once restored. Tips would be greatly appreciated. I did post this several days ago on Tecno-Chat but got no responses so I'm trying here. Eric Caron --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: sound being muted in bootcamp
Mike have you installed the Bootcamp drivers? Without them you'll get no sound. On 14 Aug 2011, at 03:57, mike wrote: Hey all, I've had the strange issue that when ever I boot in to my bootcamp partition my sound is always muted. I have to have my sighted gf click on volume to unmute every time. Any suggestions on how to stop this behavior? running lion for Mac OSX, with win 7 on the bootcamp partition. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: sound being muted in bootcamp
Hello Folks: I have the same [problem with Gordon's messages as I have with those of the creator of Amadeus Pro; mainly, that I can't read them. Now someone explained that it had something to do with digitally signed email and that Outlook doesn't process these messages very well. The point is, that email's that can't be read won't be very helpful. Perhaps someone knows away around this problem? Thanks all over the place gang. - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:39 AM Subject: Re: sound being muted in bootcamp --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: sound being muted in bootcamp
I have installed the drivers more than once. no luck -- From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:39 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: Re: sound being muted in bootcamp --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: sound being muted in bootcamp
Hi Jim I'm not signing messages at the moment so you should be able to see them. Gordon On 14 Aug 2011, at 16:34, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Hello Folks: I have the same [problem with Gordon's messages as I have with those of the creator of Amadeus Pro; mainly, that I can't read them. Now someone explained that it had something to do with digitally signed email and that Outlook doesn't process these messages very well. The point is, that email's that can't be read won't be very helpful. Perhaps someone knows away around this problem? Thanks all over the place gang. - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:39 AM Subject: Re: sound being muted in bootcamp --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: sound being muted in bootcamp
Hi Mike Then it's a Windows issue and, as such, not on topic it seems. Gordon On 14 Aug 2011, at 16:41, mike wrote: I have installed the drivers more than once. no luck --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: sound being muted in bootcamp
Gordon: Thanks much. - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 12:08 PM Subject: Re: sound being muted in bootcamp Hi Jim I'm not signing messages at the moment so you should be able to see them. Gordon On 14 Aug 2011, at 16:34, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Hello Folks: I have the same [problem with Gordon's messages as I have with those of the creator of Amadeus Pro; mainly, that I can't read them. Now someone explained that it had something to do with digitally signed email and that Outlook doesn't process these messages very well. The point is, that email's that can't be read won't be very helpful. Perhaps someone knows away around this problem? Thanks all over the place gang. - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:39 AM Subject: Re: sound being muted in bootcamp --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: sound being muted in bootcamp
YehaI would take it up on the tech chat list if you are a part of that list. if not join it. it's fun. good luck and Take care all. got to go yell at a piece of hardware that is being stubborn with my mac, again. On Aug 14, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Gordon: Thanks much. - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 12:08 PM Subject: Re: sound being muted in bootcamp Hi Jim I'm not signing messages at the moment so you should be able to see them. Gordon On 14 Aug 2011, at 16:34, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Hello Folks: I have the same [problem with Gordon's messages as I have with those of the creator of Amadeus Pro; mainly, that I can't read them. Now someone explained that it had something to do with digitally signed email and that Outlook doesn't process these messages very well. The point is, that email's that can't be read won't be very helpful. Perhaps someone knows away around this problem? Thanks all over the place gang. - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:39 AM Subject: Re: sound being muted in bootcamp --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
sound being muted in bootcamp
Hey all, I've had the strange issue that when ever I boot in to my bootcamp partition my sound is always muted. I have to have my sighted gf click on volume to unmute every time. Any suggestions on how to stop this behavior? running lion for Mac OSX, with win 7 on the bootcamp partition. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: sound being muted in bootcamp
I would go to www.apple.com and see if there are updates to the bootcamp drivers for lion. Good luck. On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:57 PM, mike wrote: Hey all, I've had the strange issue that when ever I boot in to my bootcamp partition my sound is always muted. I have to have my sighted gf click on volume to unmute every time. Any suggestions on how to stop this behavior? running lion for Mac OSX, with win 7 on the bootcamp partition. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
bootcamp with Lion?
I am considering buying a new Mini which will, of course, have Lion on it. I am told one can use bootcamp on it as usual. Not having an optical drive isn't a problem as I have another Mac and can use target mode, and I have an external drive besides. The question I have is, after one installs Windows typically you insert your Snow Leopard DVD in order that the Mac can load drivers it needs for windows. Well, as there is no more Mac OS disk to insert I wonder how this is done? I went to an Apple store, for the first time ever, here on Long Island andwas profoundly unimpressed. the so-called genius didn't know that a computer that he had on display did not in fact have server on it. Worse, after seeing me with my cane and hearing how I had VO running and also hearing me mention it, proceeded to ask a series of dumb questions, example, did I prefer using the mouse or the trackpad. My answer, I prefer using the keyboard. He didn't know squat about Server either. So, I think I may have actually lost knowledge as a result of that experience. I certainly lost respect. At the end, he asked me if he could answer any questions for me. I answered (no but I don't think he got the joke. Kevin P.S. Did I mention he couldn't answer my bootcamp question either? Kevin Barry If all is going well, you've obviously overlooked something. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: bootcamp with Lion?
The boot camp downloads the drivers now, and I think saves them to a place you specify, so a disk is no longer needed. On Jul 25, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Kevin Barry wrote: I am considering buying a new Mini which will, of course, have Lion on it. I am told one can use bootcamp on it as usual. Not having an optical drive isn't a problem as I have another Mac and can use target mode, and I have an external drive besides. The question I have is, after one installs Windows typically you insert your Snow Leopard DVD in order that the Mac can load drivers it needs for windows. Well, as there is no more Mac OS disk to insert I wonder how this is done? I went to an Apple store, for the first time ever, here on Long Island and was profoundly unimpressed. the so-called genius didn't know that a computer that he had on display did not in fact have server on it. Worse, after seeing me with my cane and hearing how I had VO running and also hearing me mention it, proceeded to ask a series of dumb questions, example, did I prefer using the mouse or the trackpad. My answer, I prefer using the keyboard. He didn't know squat about Server either. So, I think I may have actually lost knowledge as a result of that experience. I certainly lost respect. At the end, he asked me if he could answer any questions for me. I answered (no but I don't think he got the joke. Kevin P.S. Did I mention he couldn't answer my bootcamp question either? Kevin Barry If all is going well, you've obviously overlooked something. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
