MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Alex Whitman
I'm having almost the same problem as Suzanne Blake.

I am running OS 10.2.1 and a Palm m105 (has a serial cabled cradle), 
have downloaded, unstuffed and installed Palm 4.0.3, and am using an 
IConcepts PDA USB adapter (the package specifically says, Compatible 
with all popular brands of PDA and Compatible with Mac 10.1 or 
above).  The Palm software looks great on the iMac screen, but when I 
try to hot sync, the PDA says, The connection between your handheld 
and the desktop could not be established.  In the Palm software, I 
have tried all the variants under HotSync--Software Setup--Connection 
Settings, with a restart after each change.  The PDA is a year old and 
worked just fine with my previous Win98 and WinXP computers.

I would have preferred to buy the PalmConnect cable adaptor instead of 
the IConcepts, but when I was shopping for it 2 weeks ago it was out of 
stock at palm.com, Circuit City, Best Buy, and CompUSA.  I *suspect* 
the problem is in the adaptor... but the fact that Suzanne, who isn't 
using an adaptor at all, is also stymied makes me wonder.

Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Alex Whitman
alylex at earthlink.net


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
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MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Ward Oldham
Hi Alex (and Suzanne),

I just today configured for a customer an old Palm IIIxe to sync up with
Entourage X on a G4 running 10.1.5.The pda also had a serial to usb
adapter.  After installing the Palm 4 desktop software and the little bit of
Microsoft conduit software to enable it to sync up with Entourage instead of
the Palm Desktop software, things worked plug and play.

I would assume that the vintage of pda you are using is not a factor as the
one I configured today is older than yours or Suzanne's.  Jaguar may be a
factor but I can't indicate that for sure and personally I would not believe
that to be the problem.  The serial to usb adapter may be an issue but
there's not much that can really go wrong with those things.

Connectivity seems to be a likely issue.  Make sure you have it connected
directly to a built-in usb port, not a hub for your initial tests.  Once
connected, you may want to check to see if the Apple System Profiler detects
the device.  If not, go find a different adapter.  If it detects it but you
still have a problem, I would suspect that you have a software issue or a
configuration issue.

If that be the case, you may want to try setting up a new user, log in under
that user's name and install the Palm desktop software again and see if you
have any better luck getting it to work.  If it does, you can rule out
Jaguar as being a factor and focus more on the configuration of the conduit
and possibly damaged preferences being the root of your problem..

Palm gives explicit instructions on removal of any prior Palm software
before attempting an install of any new Palm desktop software.

Good Luck!

Ward Oldham


on 10/31/2002 3:52 PM, Alex Whitman at alylex at earthlink.net wrote:

 I'm having almost the same problem as Suzanne Blake.
 
 I am running OS 10.2.1 and a Palm m105 (has a serial cabled cradle),
 have downloaded, unstuffed and installed Palm 4.0.3, and am using an
 IConcepts PDA USB adapter (the package specifically says, Compatible
 with all popular brands of PDA and Compatible with Mac 10.1 or
 above).  The Palm software looks great on the iMac screen, but when I
 try to hot sync, the PDA says, The connection between your handheld
 and the desktop could not be established.  In the Palm software, I
 have tried all the variants under HotSync--Software Setup--Connection
 Settings, with a restart after each change.  The PDA is a year old and
 worked just fine with my previous Win98 and WinXP computers.
 
 I would have preferred to buy the PalmConnect cable adaptor instead of
 the IConcepts, but when I was shopping for it 2 weeks ago it was out of
 stock at palm.com, Circuit City, Best Buy, and CompUSA.  I *suspect*
 the problem is in the adaptor... but the fact that Suzanne, who isn't
 using an adaptor at all, is also stymied makes me wonder.
 
 Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.
 
 Alex Whitman
 alylex at earthlink.net
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
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MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Harry Jacobson-Beyer
Palm software has a program that watches the serial port. If the port is
being used by another application, like Appletalk, then you cannot sync your
palm through the port. Make sure Appletalk is not using the serial port. If
it is, either turn appletalk off or have appletalk connect through your
ethernet port.

Good luck.

Harry

on 10/31/2002 3:52 PM, Alex Whitman at alylex at earthlink.net wrote:

 I'm having almost the same problem as Suzanne Blake.
 
 I am running OS 10.2.1 and a Palm m105 (has a serial cabled cradle),
 have downloaded, unstuffed and installed Palm 4.0.3, and am using an
 IConcepts PDA USB adapter (the package specifically says, Compatible
 with all popular brands of PDA and Compatible with Mac 10.1 or
 above).  The Palm software looks great on the iMac screen, but when I
 try to hot sync, the PDA says, The connection between your handheld
 and the desktop could not be established.  In the Palm software, I
 have tried all the variants under HotSync--Software Setup--Connection
 Settings, with a restart after each change.  The PDA is a year old and
 worked just fine with my previous Win98 and WinXP computers.
 
 I would have preferred to buy the PalmConnect cable adaptor instead of
 the IConcepts, but when I was shopping for it 2 weeks ago it was out of
 stock at palm.com, Circuit City, Best Buy, and CompUSA.  I *suspect*
 the problem is in the adaptor... but the fact that Suzanne, who isn't
 using an adaptor at all, is also stymied makes me wonder.
 
 Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.
 
 Alex Whitman
 alylex at earthlink.net
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 

Harry,


Harry Jacobson-Beyer
Surveyor of the Passing Scene!

http://bellsouthpwp.net/h/a/harryjb/
What a strange, long, trip it is!

remember: it's not how fast you climb the hill that matters, it's how fast
you go coming down!


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MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Ward Oldham
Hi Harry,

Under OS X,  having appletalk enabled in your network system preferences on
a usb equipped cpu does not create the problem you are referring to.  It may
create a problem on older cpus with printer/modem ports but I can't vouch
for that either.  Fax/modem software has been a long time culprit, however.

Ward Oldham


on 10/31/2002 5:41 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer at harryjb at bellsouth.net wrote:

 Palm software has a program that watches the serial port. If the port is
 being used by another application, like Appletalk, then you cannot sync your
 palm through the port. Make sure Appletalk is not using the serial port. If
 it is, either turn appletalk off or have appletalk connect through your
 ethernet port.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Harry
 
 on 10/31/2002 3:52 PM, Alex Whitman at alylex at earthlink.net wrote:
 
 I'm having almost the same problem as Suzanne Blake.
 
 I am running OS 10.2.1 and a Palm m105 (has a serial cabled cradle),
 have downloaded, unstuffed and installed Palm 4.0.3, and am using an
 IConcepts PDA USB adapter (the package specifically says, Compatible
 with all popular brands of PDA and Compatible with Mac 10.1 or
 above).  The Palm software looks great on the iMac screen, but when I
 try to hot sync, the PDA says, The connection between your handheld
 and the desktop could not be established.  In the Palm software, I
 have tried all the variants under HotSync--Software Setup--Connection
 Settings, with a restart after each change.  The PDA is a year old and
 worked just fine with my previous Win98 and WinXP computers.
 
 I would have preferred to buy the PalmConnect cable adaptor instead of
 the IConcepts, but when I was shopping for it 2 weeks ago it was out of
 stock at palm.com, Circuit City, Best Buy, and CompUSA.  I *suspect*
 the problem is in the adaptor... but the fact that Suzanne, who isn't
 using an adaptor at all, is also stymied makes me wonder.
 
 Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.
 
 Alex Whitman
 alylex at earthlink.net
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 
 
 Harry,
 
 
 Harry Jacobson-Beyer
 Surveyor of the Passing Scene!
 
 http://bellsouthpwp.net/h/a/harryjb/
 What a strange, long, trip it is!
 
 remember: it's not how fast you climb the hill that matters, it's how fast
 you go coming down!
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.




MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Alex Whitman

On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 05:11  PM, Ward Oldham wrote:
 Connectivity seems to be a likely issue.  Make sure you have it 
 connected
 directly to a built-in usb port, not a hub for your initial tests.

It is plugged into one of the three USB ports on the back of the iMac.

   Once
 connected, you may want to check to see if the Apple System Profiler 
 detects
 the device.

Ah, there's the (first) rub.  Under Devices and Volumes, System 
Profiler shows the keyboard with the mouse branching off from it.  One 
mystery item shows up as a USB device ... but that device must be the 
printer since the printer prints.  The results are the same whether the 
Palm cradle with adapter is plugged in or not.

 If not, go find a different adapter.

And that's the (second) rub.  The PalmConnect USB-serial adapter seems 
to have been discontinued, as it no longer appears on the Palm store 
website at all.  The I-Concepts adapter (suggested with a shrug and a 
maybe? by the Apple rep at CompUSA) was the only one I could find in 
an afternoon of driving all over town.  The people at Circuit City and 
Best Buy were not optimistic about getting any (Palm brand or 
otherwise) in.

I'm just about ready to give up and rebuild my Win98 box for the sole 
purpose of backing up the PDA (is that nuts or what?)... Unless you 
have other ideas?

Thanks for your help, Ward.

Alex Whitman
alylex at earthlink.net


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.




MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Ward Oldham
OK, Alex . . .

I'm confused.  You have your keyboard plugged into one usb port.  Mouse
plugged into the side of the keyboard.  Printer plugged into the other usb
port.

So how can your pda be plugged in at all?

Ward


on 10/31/2002 9:48 PM, Alex Whitman at alylex at earthlink.net wrote:

 
 On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 05:11  PM, Ward Oldham wrote:
 Connectivity seems to be a likely issue.  Make sure you have it
 connected
 directly to a built-in usb port, not a hub for your initial tests.
 
 It is plugged into one of the three USB ports on the back of the iMac.
 
   Once
 connected, you may want to check to see if the Apple System Profiler
 detects
 the device.
 
 Ah, there's the (first) rub.  Under Devices and Volumes, System
 Profiler shows the keyboard with the mouse branching off from it.  One
 mystery item shows up as a USB device ... but that device must be the
 printer since the printer prints.  The results are the same whether the
 Palm cradle with adapter is plugged in or not.
 
 If not, go find a different adapter.
 
 And that's the (second) rub.  The PalmConnect USB-serial adapter seems
 to have been discontinued, as it no longer appears on the Palm store
 website at all.  The I-Concepts adapter (suggested with a shrug and a
 maybe? by the Apple rep at CompUSA) was the only one I could find in
 an afternoon of driving all over town.  The people at Circuit City and
 Best Buy were not optimistic about getting any (Palm brand or
 otherwise) in.
 
 I'm just about ready to give up and rebuild my Win98 box for the sole
 purpose of backing up the PDA (is that nuts or what?)... Unless you
 have other ideas?
 
 Thanks for your help, Ward.
 
 Alex Whitman
 alylex at earthlink.net
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.




MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Ward Oldham
Ah, sorry.  Must be a flat panel iMac.

Try your keyboard in another usb port and plug your pda into the port that
your keyboard was plugged into to see if it makes any difference.

Ward


on 10/31/2002 9:58 PM, Ward Oldham at woldham at insightbb.com wrote:

 OK, Alex . . .
 
 I'm confused.  You have your keyboard plugged into one usb port.  Mouse
 plugged into the side of the keyboard.  Printer plugged into the other usb
 port.
 
 So how can your pda be plugged in at all?
 
 Ward
 
 
 on 10/31/2002 9:48 PM, Alex Whitman at alylex at earthlink.net wrote:
 
 
 On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 05:11  PM, Ward Oldham wrote:
 Connectivity seems to be a likely issue.  Make sure you have it
 connected
 directly to a built-in usb port, not a hub for your initial tests.
 
 It is plugged into one of the three USB ports on the back of the iMac.
 
   Once
 connected, you may want to check to see if the Apple System Profiler
 detects
 the device.
 
 Ah, there's the (first) rub.  Under Devices and Volumes, System
 Profiler shows the keyboard with the mouse branching off from it.  One
 mystery item shows up as a USB device ... but that device must be the
 printer since the printer prints.  The results are the same whether the
 Palm cradle with adapter is plugged in or not.
 
 If not, go find a different adapter.
 
 And that's the (second) rub.  The PalmConnect USB-serial adapter seems
 to have been discontinued, as it no longer appears on the Palm store
 website at all.  The I-Concepts adapter (suggested with a shrug and a
 maybe? by the Apple rep at CompUSA) was the only one I could find in
 an afternoon of driving all over town.  The people at Circuit City and
 Best Buy were not optimistic about getting any (Palm brand or
 otherwise) in.
 
 I'm just about ready to give up and rebuild my Win98 box for the sole
 purpose of backing up the PDA (is that nuts or what?)... Unless you
 have other ideas?
 
 Thanks for your help, Ward.
 
 Alex Whitman
 alylex at earthlink.net
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.




MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Ward Oldham
Hey Alex,

Also have your pda plugged into the cradle with pda on and see if the system
profiler gives you any different results.

Ward


on 10/31/2002 9:58 PM, Ward Oldham at woldham at insightbb.com wrote:

 OK, Alex . . .
 
 I'm confused.  You have your keyboard plugged into one usb port.  Mouse
 plugged into the side of the keyboard.  Printer plugged into the other usb
 port.
 
 So how can your pda be plugged in at all?
 
 Ward
 
 
 on 10/31/2002 9:48 PM, Alex Whitman at alylex at earthlink.net wrote:
 
 
 On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 05:11  PM, Ward Oldham wrote:
 Connectivity seems to be a likely issue.  Make sure you have it
 connected
 directly to a built-in usb port, not a hub for your initial tests.
 
 It is plugged into one of the three USB ports on the back of the iMac.
 
   Once
 connected, you may want to check to see if the Apple System Profiler
 detects
 the device.
 
 Ah, there's the (first) rub.  Under Devices and Volumes, System
 Profiler shows the keyboard with the mouse branching off from it.  One
 mystery item shows up as a USB device ... but that device must be the
 printer since the printer prints.  The results are the same whether the
 Palm cradle with adapter is plugged in or not.
 
 If not, go find a different adapter.
 
 And that's the (second) rub.  The PalmConnect USB-serial adapter seems
 to have been discontinued, as it no longer appears on the Palm store
 website at all.  The I-Concepts adapter (suggested with a shrug and a
 maybe? by the Apple rep at CompUSA) was the only one I could find in
 an afternoon of driving all over town.  The people at Circuit City and
 Best Buy were not optimistic about getting any (Palm brand or
 otherwise) in.
 
 I'm just about ready to give up and rebuild my Win98 box for the sole
 purpose of backing up the PDA (is that nuts or what?)... Unless you
 have other ideas?
 
 Thanks for your help, Ward.
 
 Alex Whitman
 alylex at earthlink.net
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.




MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Alex Whitman

On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 09:58  PM, Ward Oldham wrote:

 OK, Alex . . .

 I'm confused.  You have your keyboard plugged into one usb port.  Mouse
 plugged into the side of the keyboard.  Printer plugged into the other 
 usb
 port.

 So how can your pda be plugged in at all?

 Ward

Umm... my brand new super-dooper iMac has 3 USB ports on its body.  
They are grouped together under a symbol like a funky pitchfork.  The 
packing carton says 5 USB ports including 2 on the keyboard.  I am 
*not* a techno-wizard; I could be wrong... but I think it's got 5 of 
those puppies.

Alex

Alex Whitman
alylex at earthlink.net


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MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Ward Oldham
Hi Alex,

Sorry for all of these partial replys.

Check ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1393777615

Just one of many links to Palm products.  The above link takes you to a $13
usb adapter.

Ward


on 10/31/2002 10:03 PM, Ward Oldham at woldham at insightbb.com wrote:

 Hey Alex,
 
 Also have your pda plugged into the cradle with pda on and see if the system
 profiler gives you any different results.
 
 Ward
 
 
 on 10/31/2002 9:58 PM, Ward Oldham at woldham at insightbb.com wrote:
 
 OK, Alex . . .
 
 I'm confused.  You have your keyboard plugged into one usb port.  Mouse
 plugged into the side of the keyboard.  Printer plugged into the other usb
 port.
 
 So how can your pda be plugged in at all?
 
 Ward
 
 
 on 10/31/2002 9:48 PM, Alex Whitman at alylex at earthlink.net wrote:
 
 
 On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 05:11  PM, Ward Oldham wrote:
 Connectivity seems to be a likely issue.  Make sure you have it
 connected
 directly to a built-in usb port, not a hub for your initial tests.
 
 It is plugged into one of the three USB ports on the back of the iMac.
 
   Once
 connected, you may want to check to see if the Apple System Profiler
 detects
 the device.
 
 Ah, there's the (first) rub.  Under Devices and Volumes, System
 Profiler shows the keyboard with the mouse branching off from it.  One
 mystery item shows up as a USB device ... but that device must be the
 printer since the printer prints.  The results are the same whether the
 Palm cradle with adapter is plugged in or not.
 
 If not, go find a different adapter.
 
 And that's the (second) rub.  The PalmConnect USB-serial adapter seems
 to have been discontinued, as it no longer appears on the Palm store
 website at all.  The I-Concepts adapter (suggested with a shrug and a
 maybe? by the Apple rep at CompUSA) was the only one I could find in
 an afternoon of driving all over town.  The people at Circuit City and
 Best Buy were not optimistic about getting any (Palm brand or
 otherwise) in.
 
 I'm just about ready to give up and rebuild my Win98 box for the sole
 purpose of backing up the PDA (is that nuts or what?)... Unless you
 have other ideas?
 
 Thanks for your help, Ward.
 
 Alex Whitman
 alylex at earthlink.net
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
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MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Alex Whitman

On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 10:03  PM, Ward Oldham wrote:

 Hey Alex,

 Also have your pda plugged into the cradle with pda on and see if the 
 system
 profiler gives you any different results.

 Ward

AHA!!!

I played the shell game and rearranged all the cables several times, 
restarting and checking the System Profiler each time.  I have finally 
gotten the SP to acknowledge the PDA when the PDA is on and in the 
cradle, as you suggest above.  (All 3 USB ports apparently do work 
properly -- I was wondering.)  It still won't hot sync, but at least 
now I can guess it's a software issue, and the adapter is not the 
problem.

And sheesh... *looks chagrined*... I should have gone to eBay the first 
time, because I paid $30 for this adapter!  Next time...

Now I'm going to reread your previous replies, Ward, and see if I can 
follow your suggestions for the software.  Thanks!

Alex


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MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Nelson Helm
FWIW
My Keyspan serial -- USB converter specifically advises not to have 
anything connected while installing it's driver.

Hey Alex,

Also have your pda plugged into the cradle with pda on and see if the system
profiler gives you any different results.

Ward


on 10/31/2002 9:58 PM, Ward Oldham at woldham at insightbb.com wrote:

  OK, Alex . . .

  I'm confused.  You have your keyboard plugged into one usb port.  Mouse
  plugged into the side of the keyboard.  Printer plugged into the other usb
  port.

  So how can your pda be plugged in at all?

  Ward


  on 10/31/2002 9:48 PM, Alex Whitman at alylex at earthlink.net wrote:


  On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 05:11  PM, Ward Oldham wrote:
  Connectivity seems to be a likely issue.  Make sure you have it
  connected
  directly to a built-in usb port, not a hub for your initial tests.

  It is plugged into one of the three USB ports on the back of the iMac.

Once
  connected, you may want to check to see if the Apple System Profiler
  detects
  the device.

  Ah, there's the (first) rub.  Under Devices and Volumes, System
  Profiler shows the keyboard with the mouse branching off from it.  One
  mystery item shows up as a USB device ... but that device must be the
  printer since the printer prints.  The results are the same whether the
  Palm cradle with adapter is plugged in or not.

  If not, go find a different adapter.

  And that's the (second) rub.  The PalmConnect USB-serial adapter seems
  to have been discontinued, as it no longer appears on the Palm store
  website at all.  The I-Concepts adapter (suggested with a shrug and a
  maybe? by the Apple rep at CompUSA) was the only one I could find in
  an afternoon of driving all over town.  The people at Circuit City and
  Best Buy were not optimistic about getting any (Palm brand or
  otherwise) in.

  I'm just about ready to give up and rebuild my Win98 box for the sole
  purpose of backing up the PDA (is that nuts or what?)... Unless you
  have other ideas?

  Thanks for your help, Ward.

  Alex Whitman
  alylex at earthlink.net


  The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
  For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
  activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.



  The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
  For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
  activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.



The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
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MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Alex Whitman

On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 10:12  PM, Ward Oldham wrote:

 Sorry for all of these partial replys.

No need to apologize!  I am grateful for your help.

 Check ebay:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1393777615

That one was sold by the time I got there, but I have placed a bid on  
another -- the one that Palm, the Apple guy at CompUSA, and someone on  
the big macfixitforum board have all said is what I need.

 http://www.macfixitforums.com/php/ 
 showflat.php?Cat=Board=Forum39Number=401853Forum=Forum39Words=palm 
 Match=Entire%20PhraseSearchpage=0Limit=25Old=allpostsMain=401853Se 
 arch=true#Post401853

Someone on the Apple discussion board said the iConcepts adaptor I  
bought is worthless with OS X, as it just doesn't have the drivers.   
:-(  I hope CompUSA will take it back.

Once this piece arrives, you can be sure I'll be back here either to  
pull some more of my hair out or to celebrate.

Alex


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MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Nelson Helm
On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 09:58  PM, Ward Oldham wrote:

OK, Alex . . .

I'm confused.  You have your keyboard plugged into one usb port.  Mouse
plugged into the side of the keyboard.  Printer plugged into the other usb
port.

So how can your pda be plugged in at all?

Ward

Umm... my brand new super-dooper iMac has 3 USB ports on its body. 
They are grouped together under a symbol like a funky pitchfork. 
The packing carton says 5 USB ports including 2 on the keyboard. 
I am *not* a techno-wizard; I could be wrong... but I think it's got 
5 of those puppies.

mine does.

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MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Ward Oldham
Standard Keyspan instructions, Nelson.

I feel a little confusion brewing here.  You're not using a Keyspan serial
to usb adapter in conjunction with your pda cradle, are you?  These Palm
sync cradles usually have a DB-9 serial connector used to connect to a
windows machine.  The Palm serial to usb adapter does not require any
drivers.

The Keyspan serial to usb adapter is a DIN-8 to usb adapter requiring
drivers to function.  Most of the time it is used to connect older serial
printers to a usb port.

I'm easily confused at this hour.

Ward Oldham

on 10/31/2002 11:26 PM, Nelson Helm at helmkyny at clockwinders.net wrote:

 FWIW
 My Keyspan serial -- USB converter specifically advises not to have
 anything connected while installing it's driver.
 
 Hey Alex,
 
 Also have your pda plugged into the cradle with pda on and see if the system
 profiler gives you any different results.
 
 Ward
 
 
 on 10/31/2002 9:58 PM, Ward Oldham at woldham at insightbb.com wrote:
 
  OK, Alex . . .
 
  I'm confused.  You have your keyboard plugged into one usb port.  Mouse
  plugged into the side of the keyboard.  Printer plugged into the other usb
  port.
 
  So how can your pda be plugged in at all?
 
  Ward
 
 
  on 10/31/2002 9:48 PM, Alex Whitman at alylex at earthlink.net wrote:
 
 
  On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 05:11  PM, Ward Oldham wrote:
  Connectivity seems to be a likely issue.  Make sure you have it
  connected
  directly to a built-in usb port, not a hub for your initial tests.
 
  It is plugged into one of the three USB ports on the back of the iMac.
 
Once
  connected, you may want to check to see if the Apple System Profiler
  detects
  the device.
 
  Ah, there's the (first) rub.  Under Devices and Volumes, System
  Profiler shows the keyboard with the mouse branching off from it.  One
  mystery item shows up as a USB device ... but that device must be the
  printer since the printer prints.  The results are the same whether the
  Palm cradle with adapter is plugged in or not.
 
  If not, go find a different adapter.
 
  And that's the (second) rub.  The PalmConnect USB-serial adapter seems
  to have been discontinued, as it no longer appears on the Palm store
  website at all.  The I-Concepts adapter (suggested with a shrug and a
  maybe? by the Apple rep at CompUSA) was the only one I could find in
  an afternoon of driving all over town.  The people at Circuit City and
  Best Buy were not optimistic about getting any (Palm brand or
  otherwise) in.
 
  I'm just about ready to give up and rebuild my Win98 box for the sole
  purpose of backing up the PDA (is that nuts or what?)... Unless you
  have other ideas?
 
  Thanks for your help, Ward.
 
  Alex Whitman
  alylex at earthlink.net
 
 
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  The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
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 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 


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MacGroup: Palm and OS X

2002-10-31 Thread Ward Oldham
Alex,

This is the adapter you want to buy.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1392741483

Note that your particular Palm Pilot may require something a little
different but this is the one I've most often seen.  Through all of this, I
don't have a clue what model you own.


Ward Oldham



on 10/31/2002 11:34 PM, Alex Whitman at alylex at earthlink.net wrote:

 
 On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 10:12  PM, Ward Oldham wrote:
 
 Sorry for all of these partial replys.
 
 No need to apologize!  I am grateful for your help.
 
 Check ebay:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1393777615
 
 That one was sold by the time I got there, but I have placed a bid on
 another -- the one that Palm, the Apple guy at CompUSA, and someone on
 the big macfixitforum board have all said is what I need.
 
 http://www.macfixitforums.com/php/
 showflat.php?Cat=Board=Forum39Number=401853Forum=Forum39Words=palm
 Match=Entire%20PhraseSearchpage=0Limit=25Old=allpostsMain=401853Se
 arch=true#Post401853
 
 Someone on the Apple discussion board said the iConcepts adaptor I
 bought is worthless with OS X, as it just doesn't have the drivers.
 :-(  I hope CompUSA will take it back.
 
 Once this piece arrives, you can be sure I'll be back here either to
 pull some more of my hair out or to celebrate.
 
 Alex
 
 
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