Re: [OT] Japanese
Japanese and Mac OS Xawesome. Yes; I am biased. Can you tell us how you got the garbled text? It looks like if you switch the encoding, as suggested, that you might get things into something resembling Japanese. As for Mac OS X supporting Japanese. I presume you have checked the system preferences. You can set it so it opens applications with Japanese localization, if available. While this might be useful to you at this moment, you can also add Japanese IME (input) to any application within the system preferences. I use Mail from Apple without any issues. Occasionally someone's email is garbled (mojibake being the 'technical' term for this as it relates to Japanese) when some sets the text as single-byte...but this typically happens with MS clients such as Outlook (I use Japanese regional settings at work...and Outlook just botches things too much for my likes). Japanese characters are two-bytes each so parsing per one-byte just corrupts everything and makes 2x the characters out of the message. Anyway. Using Perl's pack() and unpack() are good ways to keep things nicely packed into a format that supports two-bytes. Hopefully 5.8.0 will/does support Unicode fully. This is what I have done with Perl web-apps in the past. But...it really depends on how you qualify My next question is where there's a good online FAQ site for doing japanese on OSX or finding OSX programs that accept Japenese (unicode?). Cheers, Ward
Re: [OT] Japanese
But I can tell Text Edit what encoding to assume and then save as UTF-8 or UTF-16, so there's a work-around. Unfortunately, that's not going to help the OP, near as I can tell. Do you recognize his deg.TMGDBdeg.$D9$BBdeg.$D9deg.$E9deg.$D9-$DA$F5? Editors I use a lot. Jedit, Java editor. www.jedit.org It is extremely good at setting default encodings, changing file encoding (batch mode, too) on the fly, et cetera. Mi, great text editor from Japanese author http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~gf6d-kmym/en/mimi/index.html http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~gf6d-kmym/mimi/index.html VIM...well, not great at Japanese. But an lovely editor. Just had to add it here. Works great in X11 on OS X, too! ;)
Re: wxPerl
You need to be careful you have read following the wxPerl INSTALL.txt directions carefully. Near the bottom of the file there is a bit about needing to create a new Perl EXE. It is simple enough to do. Of course, you also need to install wxWindows inself. And no, it does not require X11. BTW, there is a wxperl ML... On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 12:58PM, Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Drew Taylor wrote: Has anyone used wxPerl on OS X? I've got it installed, and have run a couple samples (the perl.com article tutorial #1 on perlmonks). But when I run these samples (drew% ./hello.pl via Terminal), I only get the window. No menubar, etc. Any ideas? It doesn't need to run from within X11, does it? I don't know if the current version of wxPerl does Aqua graphics, or if it just relies on X for that, but if it's the latter you may need to fire up X and make sure that your $DISPLAY variable is set properly, etc. -- Chris Devers[EMAIL PROTECTED] hype, n. Any document headed For immediate release. -- from _The Computer Contradictionary_, Stan Kelly-Bootle, 1995 -- Ward W. Vuillemot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Wheeler by anyother name...
1. I appreciate all the spam on this...makes me feel like I am in Hawaii. 2. Whatever happened to giving ppl the benefit of the doubt? That is to say, would it have been sufficient for the people in question who questioned the usage or play-on-words to have written a short email directly to the person in question to express their opinion...I am not certain of the original poster's position but they seemed to mean it in terms of kindness/humor without any sense of insult intended. If anything since these ML can be quite intimate; we same the ppl over and over there can to develop a sense of familiarity with each other and others within our perceived sphere of community -- namely Mac, Perl, and OSS. 3. I concur that there are many levels of gray in this -- and we need to take care to not overly offend other persons' sensibilities...but does the community response equal the intent of the original poster? 4. This has all been highly entertaining. Amazing how email promotes such passive-aggressive behaviors. GRRR. haha. ;) Let us now play nicely with each other.
BOT: Installers
All, What is the best method you use to install modules not hosted on CPAN but need to be available to a group of people who are not too familiar with Perl per se. I have some distributions that I want to be able for the user to basically type 'installer.pl' or 2x-click on it and it use CPAN to install all the requisite modules. Some of these modules will be from the CPAN respos, otherwise will be included at tar.gz files. I looked at CPAN::DistroBuilder...and it seems like a good idea. However, I have not figured out to force CPAN to look at file URLs. Ideally, I would like to keep a local copy of the CPAN modules and just use this for the people. We are behind a firewall, and i want to avoid anything like configuring CPAN for themI just wanna dumb it down to the point that they gotta think zippo (or as near as possible) for installation. Yes, I have read the docs and googled. But I can only find allusions to what I want to do, no concrete examples Thanks in advance, Ward
Re: What up with the mac
What is the script? If you truly think you have an optimization problem on the Mac, then send us the script -- assuming it is of reasonable size. Are you doing something in Perl that is really a Windows-specific task...are you running Perl within Mac OS X or through Fink packages...do you have the same versions of Perl...are you running Perl on OS X or OS 9...do the computers have the same amount of RAM, similar HDs, running one locally vs off a networked HD??? Also, 1.5 GHz Apple?!? Do you mean dual-1.25 GHz Apple? it is difficult to even comment with so little information to go by. On 2002.10.9, at 12:31 午後, Brigham Mecham wrote: Hello Perhaps someone can fill me in on this one. I am comparing the run time of a perl program I wrote. Using my Mac G4 which has a 1.5 ghz processor and a 1.3 ghz PC computer (processor chip type I don't know but could find out) I am seeing that the Mac takes 14 seconds to complete what the PC does in 6! What's up with that?
Tk, Perl, and 10.2
Anyone else running Tk, Perl 5.8.0 on Mac 10.2? Anyone notice lag in window draw? I have a G4 800 Mhz, but draw of even simple dialogs takes 1-2 secondsI am wondering if it is my configuration, or something else. Am I correct when I say that Tk is _only_ available by running XDarwin (i.e. Fink installation) to get Tk running? Is this just XDarwin overhead? Thanks! Ward
Re: Perl/Tk on OS X -- and another GD plea(se) :)
That worked just as well! Thanks!!! On 2002.9.27, at 09:57 午前, Bill Stephenson wrote: I think you can install the GD.pm modules with fink too. Have you tried that? I used fink to install only gd.c. (and required libs) I hadn't realized it could install GD.pm as well. After I got mine working (perl 5.6 OS X 10.15) I read somewhere you could use fink for both installs... HTH, -- Bill Stephenson www.PerlHelp.com 1-417-546-5593
Re: Perl/Tk on OS X -- and another GD plea(se) :)
I finally got to Tk to load with 10.2 and Perl 5.8.0 by making sure the regex does not have the trailing \s+ in file MMUtil.pm for the LDDLFLAGS. To verify, I simply ran the POS sample found on Perl.com and it works without any glitches. Now, if I can just get GD to installnone of the tricks online are working for me. Anyone have an idea. Cheers, Ward
Re: OS Poll
The simple point of _all_ things is this: Nothing, REPEAT, nothing is for free. IF 10.2 is worth to you at whatever cost you get -- be it $80 or $130 -- then you will pay it. And if _NOT_ then it is not. IF you have it INSTALLED then whatever you paid when you INSTALLED IT is at a level you thought worth it at the time that you PAID for it. Even still, IF you installed it and it was NOT worth it then you reverted to whatever OS was/is WORTH it. REGARDLESS, you should be using the OS and the OS VERSION that makes sense to YOU and YOUR SENSE of value. IF you do not LIKE APPLES PRICING, then do NOT pay it. Life ain't perfect -- nor is Apple. They have, do and will continue to do things I think are wrong -- ie, piss me off. Hello, I have G3 that had sound in 10.0 and no sound in 10.0.4 -- but I have yet to get it to work hencedo I like it? NO!! But in the whole scheme of things...there is a lot better things to do -- like drink a beer or some other beverage. Anyway. The alternatives are even LESS appetizing to me. Aka M$ or Redhat/Mandrake == Linux. Apple is a company. They make a product. It ain't free. Capitalism, like democracy, is not a happenstance of environment. It is a consequence of action -- even inaction. You VOTE when you buy. You VOTE when you do NOT buy. My VOTE is for. For some it is not. Fine. Cool. And ALL of this has WHAT to do with Perl on Mac? Please do not take any of the above personally. Just me, a beer, and way too many emails on this topic for the evening. Many cheers, Ward
Re: Opening file with application
Not that I have an answer...but I have a similar problem. I can launch MS Excel and have it open a OTF generated file from Win32. But Mac OS X does not do itmaybe I should read the docs, but...if I backtick an `open /dir/to/msexcel` Excel opens, but the redirect, or `open /dir/to/msexcel $file`` does not work. That is to say, MS Excel (Classic) still opens from within Perl on Mac OS X, but I cannot get it to open the file itself...which is a pain in the butt. I figured if I got Mac OS X version MS Office things might get rectified, but I have yet to get an upgrade. I put my vote in for any ideas on a non-OS specific solution to opening an application and having said application open a file to boot. ;) Cheers, Ward On 2002.09.08, at 11:06, John Delacour wrote: At 8:48 am -0700 8/9/02, Enrique Terrazas wrote: How about using SetFile (installed by the developer tools) to set the creator and file type to excel, and then using the open command? Well a) I don't want to change the file creator and b) only a small minority of users will have Setfile installed. JD
GOT: Re: Reading a file in- different in MacOS X?
On 2002.08.10, at 08:54, David Wheeler wrote:
On Saturday, August 10, 2002, at 12:43 AM, Shannon Murdoch wrote:
while(FILE){
push (array,$_);
}
This doesn't answer your question, but just as a space saver (perhaps
even optimization, I'm not sure), you might want to try this syntax:
my array = FILE;
Q: What happens if FILE is a LARGE file? array = FILE may then
cause problems...the first way ensures that the file is read in
pieces
Anyone have comments?
Problems install Text::Iconv
I am trying to get, ultimately, XML::SAX and some of its own supporting modules (e.g. XML::SAX::ParserFactory which needs XML::SAX::Writer which needs Text::Iconv). How how the merry nymphs dance and prance on m' forehead. Argh! Has anyone encountered this? Here is the output from an install. Cheers, Ward P.S. Thanks to all for the previous help with apache (even though it was not related to the mailing list (i.e. WOT)) as a LOT of people provided some much need help. Thanks! Writing Makefile for Text::Iconv cp Iconv.pm blib/lib/Text/Iconv.pm AutoSplitting blib/lib/Text/Iconv.pm (blib/lib/auto/Text/Iconv) /usr/bin/perl -I/System/Library/Perl/darwin -I/System/Library/Perl /System/Library/Perl/ExtUtils/xsubpp -typemap /System/Library/Perl/ExtUtils/typemap -typemap typemap Iconv.xs Iconv.xsc mv Iconv.xsc Iconv.c cc -c -pipe -fno-common -DHAS_TELLDIR_PROTOTYPE -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include -O3 -DVERSION=\1.2\ -DXS_VERSION=\1.2\ -I/System/Library/Perl/darwin/CORE Iconv.c Iconv.xs:15: header file 'iconv.h' not found Iconv.xs:21: undefined type, found `iconv_t' Iconv.xs:139: undefined type, found `iconv_t' cpp-precomp: warning: errors during smart preprocessing, retrying in basic mode make: *** [Iconv.o] Error 1 /usr/bin/make -- NOT OK Running make test Can't test without successful make Running make install make had returned bad status, install seems impossible
Mod_perl perlhandler
With the special apache and apreqlib, has anyone had problems with PerlHandler. In particular, my httpd.conf includes Location /floeApp SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler floeApp PerlSendHeader On /Location But, apachectl configtest tells me Invalid command 'SetHandler', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration Running httpd -l, returns Compiled-in modules: http_core.c mod_env.c mod_log_config.c mod_negotiation.c mod_include.c mod_autoindex.c mod_dir.c mod_cgi.c mod_imap.c mod_actions.c mod_rewrite.c mod_access.c mod_auth.c mod_so.c mod_setenvif.c mod_ssl.c mod_perl.c http_core.c, I thought handled this. No? -- Ward W. Vuillemot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
APACHE, LIBAPREQ -- some errors
RE: instructions at http://www.apache.org/~joes/ I have had the following errors after installing the special Apache. dyld: /usr/sbin/httpd Undefined symbols: _ApacheCookie_as_string _ApacheCookie_attr _ApacheCookie_bake _ApacheCookie_expires _ApacheCookie_new _ApacheCookie_parse /usr/sbin/apachectl restart: httpd could not be started In a unrelated error, can anyone verify that the following error is an indication that another server is already running? [crit] (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to port 80 I presume that mac os x is launching apache at startup. Is it possible that I have 2 versions of apache installed? I presumed that installation of apache by myself would overwrite anything that came pre-installed on the computer, no? BTW, thanks for all who have been responding to my emails! It is great to have such wonderful support. Hopefully I will someday be able to return the favor. Thanks! ward
Help with Apache installation
I thought I would go back to installing everything. Last time, when I installed Apache, I had had problems with the following command: SSL_BASE=/usr/local/src/openssl-0.9.6c/ \ ./configure \ --with-layout=Apache \ --enable-module=ssl \ --enable-module=rewrite \ --enable-module=so \ --activate-module=src/modules/perl/libperl.a \ --disable-shared=perl \ --without-execstrip Telling me that SSL_BASE is not understood. So I set it using % Setenv SSL_BASE /usr/local/src/openssl-0.9.6c/ % ./configure \ --with-layout=Apache \ --enable-module=ssl \ --enable-module=rewrite \ --enable-module=so \ --activate-module=src/modules/perl/libperl.a \ --disable-shared=perl \ --without-execstrip % make % make test % make install I have maked openssl, mod_ssl, and mod_perl. When I try to configure Apache, I am still getting the 'SSL_BASE is not understood' error. I am using Apple's default shell. Any help is appreciated! Thanks, Ward -- Ward W. Vuillemot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Clean install
All, I want to do a complete reinstall of Apache, mod_perl, mod_ssl, openSSL and perl. What files do I need to delete to get rid of all the associated files? It would seem that I might have problems with different versions of libapreq, and I figure the easiest solution at this point is the M$ solution. REINSTALL. :| Cheers, Ward -- Ward W. Vuillemot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Controlling Apache
I basically followed the directions at
http://david.wheeler.net/osx.html
Along with pointers from
http://www.apache.org/~joes/
http://david.wheeler.net/osx.html
So I know have mod_ssl, mod_perl, Perl 5.6.1 and Apache loaded on my
machine.
I then loaded the libapreq that is suggested for this type of configuration.
I can Apache to launch with the default httpd.conf.
However, when I add the following line to the end of the file
I get errors. Below are the mods to httpd.conf and associated files.
I have been using System Preferences to restart Apache. However, after
doing a restart I cannot STOP Apache from this location!!
Q: What is the best way to control Apache?
Also, even though Apache is running when I try to connect at 127.0.0.1 I get
nothing?!?
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks,
Ward
httpd.conf
Include /Library/WebServer/FLOE/httpd.conf
/httpd.conf
And
/Library/WebServer/FLOE/httpd.conf
# MOD PERL CHANGES
#
# send perl warnings to log
#
PerlWarn On
#
# force reloading of modules on restart
# when production level turn off
#
PerlFreshRestart On
#
# Perl module primitive mother load on start/restart
#
PerlRequire /Library/WebServer/FLOE/startup.pl
#
# FLOE application (mod_perl)
# see startup.pl to determine if XML version
#
Location /floeApp
SetHandler perl-script
PerlHandler floeApp
PerlSendHeader On
/Location
# END MOD PERL CHANGES
//Library/WebServer/FLOE/httpd.conf
And
/Library/WebServer/FLOE/startup.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
##
### START OF CONFIGURATION ###
##
use Apache::Cookie;
use Apache::Request ();
use Apache::Constants qw(:common);
use Apache::DBI ();
use CGI ();
use CGI::Carp;
CGI-compile(':all');
##
#FLOE MODULES#
##
# location of FLOE modules
# same directory as one used in floe.cgi
# use lib 'C:/apache/Apache/cgi-lib';
# XML version
use lib '/Library/WebServer/FLOE/';
# modules specific to Boeing FLOE
# DB module (wrapper to DBI)
#use floeApp ();
#use FLOE ();
#non-OO methods
#use FLOE::Func ();
#builds DB navigational aids
#use FLOE::Navigation ();
#manages server-side session state
#use FLOE::Session ();
# use perlfect::template module
#use FLOE::Template ();
# validates information found in DB table
#use FLOE::Validate ();
##
# CONFIGURATION#
##
# INI (configuration) Reader (Apache format)
use Config::General::Extended ();
1;
/Library/WebServer/FLOE/startup.pl
Re: Controlling Apache
On 02.4.25 8:33 PM, Sherm Pendley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 10:52 PM, Ward W. Vuillemot wrote: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = ja_JP are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). I use Japanese as default for the OS. I configured by .cshrc to change that when I use the terminal. . .but I am not sure how to set this otherwise. When I installed perl, I had typed in setenv LC_ALL C setenv LANG en_US I'm not certain - I speak only English, and so I've never had to deal with locale issues. Having said that, it appears to me that Perl is confused because it was compiled in the English/US locale, but is running (as part of mod_perl) in the Japanese locale. If I'm correct, the solution would be to either a) Compile Perl in the Japanese locale, or b) modify the Apache startup script (/System/Library/StartupItems/Apache/Apache) to run Apache in the English/US locale. Not only would the latter be simpler, it would also allow you to use your English version of Perl with your current terminal environment. Hope this helps! sherm-- Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today. There might be a law against it by that time. Might you know how I might do that? I cannot seem to find anything online or in the docs (not sure exactly what to search under) to configure Apache in such a manner. I did try apachectl. I got the following error: pid file /private/var/run/httpd.pid overwritte n -- Unclean shutdown of previous Apache run? When I tried to see the full status, I got this [localhost:var/log/httpd] root# apachectl fullstatus /usr/sbin/apachectl: command not found: lynx [142] So, I went back to the my httpd.conf file. I forgot that mod_perl and mod_ssl are statically linked, so I did not need the AddModule command. . . However, it now tells me that PerlWarn, PerlRestart, and PerlRequest are not allowed?!? These commands are issued from another file that I call as an Include directive in the main httpd.conf file. Anyone have an idea why? -- Ward W. Vuillemot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CPAN shell error with DELETE key
Has anyone seen the following error: Use of uninitialized value in length at /Library/Perl/Term/ReadLine/readline.pm line 1606. I tried install readline, quit CPAN shell and restarted. Problem still exists. . . .does not seem to be anything than an annoyance. Cheers, Ward P.S. Any status update with default Perl and Apache::Cookie (libareq)? I tried the suggestion from Joe S. without any success. Anywhere I have a use Apache::Cookie the module will not load. E.g., I have a startup.pl file I use to load common modules in memory at the startup of Apache. . ..commenting out the use Apache::Cookie gets it to start. Of course, my mod_perl apps require the mod, so without it quite a moot accomplishment. As it were. -- Ward W. Vuillemot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
