Accessing On My Mac mailboxes

[Terrence van Ettinger (AKA Angus MacLaren)]

How do I read email from these boxes?

Thanks,
Terrence


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Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion

[Mike Arrigo]

 From what I have heard, fusion works ok with snow leopard
On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know whether upgrading to Snow Leopard will mess up my
> Windows installation with Fusion?
>
> Thanks,
> Anna
>
>
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Re: Statistics packages

[Barry Hadder]

Lindsay,

I strongly recommend a tool called octave.  It is a Matlab like  
environment but it is text based rather than graphical so you will run  
it through terminal.  It got me through probability and differential  
equations I and II.  I really don't know what I would have done  
without it. You can either get it through macports, or there is a  
precompiled version for the mac at: http://octave.sourceforge.net/.   
The latter happens to be an app package that you would run from within  
finder as you would any other app.You will also want to poke  
around the documentation on the octave main sight at 
http://gnu.org/software/octave 
.   However, I wouldn't recommend downloading octave from there  
because you will have to build it from scratch by hand and that's not  
something you will want to do.

A good place to get started with latex is: 
http://www.andy-roberts.net/misc/latex/index.html 
.  A really good distribution for the mac is mactex.  I don't remember  
the url, but if you google it it comes right up.  You can also get  
other tex distributions through macports.

If any of this is confusing, feel free to write me off list.  I  
probably didn't make some things as clear as I should have.


On Aug 26, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Lindsay Yazzolino wrote:

>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am going to be taking a college statistics course this fall and am
> wondering if there currently exist any accessible statistics packages
> for the Mac or if I am best off sticking with WIndows/any other
> operating system. Also, what other methods have any of you used for
> successfully completing statistics courses? I am looking forward to
> the class, and want to make the best use possible of the tools which I
> have at my disposal, especially my MacBook. On a related note, I feel
> that I would greatly benefit from learning LaTeX for my math and other
> courses, andwould love to receive some pointers about where to get
> started.  Thanks in advance for any input, and feel free toat any
> point take this discussion off list if you feel that it benefits
> statistics students but not necessarily Mac users.
>
> Lindsay
>
> >


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Re: [RogueAmoeba #97236]: the effects area is virtually inaccessible for more than one effect to be added to a session with voice over for the mac

[Steven M. Sawczyn]

I definitely hope they're right, it's horrible that we don't have  
access to the effects area.  Here's hoping the new system works better.

Steve

On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:

let's hope they're right?


Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Rogue Amoeba Support" 
> Date: August 27, 2009 3:11:10 AM BST
> To: marie.jane2...@gmail.com
> Subject: [RogueAmoeba #97236]: the effects area is virtually  
> inaccessible for more than one effect to be added to a session with  
> voice over for the mac
> Reply-To: audiohijack...@rogueamoeba.com
>
> Marie -
>
> Sorry for the slow reply.
>
> The bad news I have for you, is that we probably won't update Audio  
> Hijack Pro to have better VoiceOver support in the Effects area.  
> Although we do still try to keep the rest of the application working  
> decently with VoiceOver. The Effects area, however, is on the  
> chopping block for the next version of Audio Hijack Pro, so we don't  
> really want to sink anymore time into it.
>
> The possibly good news is, we're going to be writing a completely  
> new Effects system, probably much simplified, which will make  
> VoiceOver support for it much easier. This work has already begun,  
> and we hope to have it ready within a year or so.
>
> --
> Quentin D. Carnicelli
> Software Engineer
> Rogue Amoeba Software, LLC
>
>  BE SURE TO REPLY ABOVE THIS LINE! 
> Ticket ID: 97236
> ===
>
>





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Re: problems with email on the mac

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

As I understand it, the easiest way to import your mail from OUtlook  
Express is to install Thunderbird on your Windows machine, import your  
mail into Thunderbird, then import the Thunderbird mail into Mail on  
the Mac. I used Eudora and followed this procedure to get my mail into  
the Mail program, and it worked fine.

As for your account, do you have the correct names for your incoming  
and outgoing mail servers? You can try different authentication  
settings as well.

Good luck,
Anna
  

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Re: test call on Skype?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

HI Donna,

Try searching for contacts and type in "Skype test call." If it pops  
up, add it to your contacts. I think that will work.

best,
Anna


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Fwd: [RogueAmoeba #97236]: the effects area is virtually inaccessible for more than one effect to be added to a session with voice over for the mac

[Marie Howarth]

let's hope they're right?


Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Rogue Amoeba Support" 
> Date: August 27, 2009 3:11:10 AM BST
> To: marie.jane2...@gmail.com
> Subject: [RogueAmoeba #97236]: the effects area is virtually  
> inaccessible for more than one effect to be added to a session with  
> voice over for the mac
> Reply-To: audiohijack...@rogueamoeba.com
>
> Marie -
>
> Sorry for the slow reply.
>
> The bad news I have for you, is that we probably won't update Audio  
> Hijack Pro to have better VoiceOver support in the Effects area.  
> Although we do still try to keep the rest of the application working  
> decently with VoiceOver. The Effects area, however, is on the  
> chopping block for the next version of Audio Hijack Pro, so we don't  
> really want to sink anymore time into it.
>
> The possibly good news is, we're going to be writing a completely  
> new Effects system, probably much simplified, which will make  
> VoiceOver support for it much easier. This work has already begun,  
> and we hope to have it ready within a year or so.
>
> --
> Quentin D. Carnicelli
> Software Engineer
> Rogue Amoeba Software, LLC
>
>  BE SURE TO REPLY ABOVE THIS LINE! 
> Ticket ID: 97236
> ===
>
>


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Statistics packages

[Lindsay Yazzolino]

Hi Everyone,

I am going to be taking a college statistics course this fall and am
wondering if there currently exist any accessible statistics packages
for the Mac or if I am best off sticking with WIndows/any other
operating system. Also, what other methods have any of you used for
successfully completing statistics courses? I am looking forward to
the class, and want to make the best use possible of the tools which I
have at my disposal, especially my MacBook. On a related note, I feel
that I would greatly benefit from learning LaTeX for my math and other
courses, andwould love to receive some pointers about where to get
started.  Thanks in advance for any input, and feel free toat any
point take this discussion off list if you feel that it benefits
statistics students but not necessarily Mac users.

Lindsay

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Re: preordering SL at $10 price?

[Donna Goodin]

Oh, yeah, eight days still isn't very much.  But what can you do?:)
Take care,
Donna
On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:19 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote:

> I missed mine by 8 days, but it's still frustrating. Ahh well.
>
> > From: goodi...@msu.edu
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: preordering SL at $10 price?
> > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:43:01 -0400
> >
> >
> > Oh, Chris, that's awful! I'm so sorry! It's so frustrating when  
> stuff
> > like that happens. :)
> > Donna
> >
> > On Aug 26, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Chris G wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > It does, and i missed mine by 3 days.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:06:51 -0400
> > > Donna Goodin  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Mark,
> > >>
> > >> I believe the $10 offer only applies to Macs purchased after  
> June 8.
> > >> Donna
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:26 AM, M AUSTEN wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I purchased my iMac on the 14th May and have just paid £25 for  
> the
> > >>> SL upgrade. Thats the cheapest I've seen it in the UKL
> > >>>
> > >>> Mark
> > >>>
> > >>> --- On Wed, 26/8/09, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> From: Donna Goodin 
> > >>> Subject: preordering SL at $10 price?
> > >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > >>> Date: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009, 3:24 PM
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi all,
> > >>>
> > >>> Has anyone successfully ordered SL and been able to purchase  
> it at
> > >>> the
> > >>> $10 price for those of us who purchase our Macvs this summer? I
> > >>> have
> > >>> been trying for the past hour, and when I get to the verify  
> order
> > >>> screen, the $29 price still shows up.
> > >>> TIA,
> > >>> Donna
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chris G 
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >


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Re: test call on Skype?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Dane,

I already have shbow off-line contacts checked, but the only contacts  
that show up in the contacts table are those that I have added. Any  
thoughts as to why the test option may not be showing?
TIA,
Donna
On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

>
> Yep its there in the Mac versions, you'll have to go into the "view"
> menu and select "Show Offline Contacts" to bring the "Skype Test Call"
> up in the contacts table.
>
>
> On 27/08/2009, at 9:46 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The Windows version of Skype allows you to make a test call to make
>> sure things are configured properly.  I don't see this option on the
>> Mac version.  Is there some way to do this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>>
>>>
>
>
> >
>


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Re: test call on Skype?

[Dane Trethowan]

Yep its there in the Mac versions, you'll have to go into the "view"  
menu and select "Show Offline Contacts" to bring the "Skype Test Call"  
up in the contacts table.


On 27/08/2009, at 9:46 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> The Windows version of Skype allows you to make a test call to make
> sure things are configured properly.  I don't see this option on the
> Mac version.  Is there some way to do this?
> TIA,
> Donna
>
> >


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Making my own text message alerts

[VaShaun Jones]

Listers I know I can make my own I Phone ring tones, but is there a  
folder that I can access that will allow me to make my own text  
message alerts? If so can someone point me in the right direction  
because I hate the ones that come stocked on the phone?
VaShaun Jones (President)
Cobb County Empowerment Chapter of the National Federation of the  
Blind of Georgia Inc.
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problems with email on the mac

[a radix]

Hello, I got my internet connection working on the mac although I have yet to 
do software updates, i am to busy with trying everything out and mailing to 
this list/resetting my modem etc.
I did try mail and i guess i have the hang of the general program layout now, i 
can also fetch mail on my @home account but i cant receive any and I don tknow 
why, on windows i only have to enter my email address, pasword and two times 
webm...@home.nl and it works apparently not so on the mac.
Are there any mail clients on the mac that are capable of importing outlook 
express export files or is there a way to convert them, because I dont know why 
Mail wont accept my account.
I was htinking of getting a gmail address but i have used @home and hotmail for 
a long time.

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RE: flac files on the mac

[Blake Sinnett]

I like using Cog. This is a liteweight, snappy audio player that plays FLAC and 
OGG Vorbis, among many others. It's totally accessible with VoiceOver. You can 
get it from http://www.cogx.org

 

Thanks,

Blake
 


From: anou...@home.nl
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: flac files on the mac
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:38:54 +0200


Well, i wont use itunes for flacs then, i guess i will have to go search for a 
different main player. I will try switch and vlc
Greetings, Anouk,

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Blouch 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: flac files on the mac

This was covered previously. You have to install some plugins and then cheap by 
tagging the flacs as being oggs to get iTunes to pull them in.

http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg04677.html

CB

a radix wrote: 



Hello, while I cannot yet use internet, i can use my braille display and my 
external hd. All my music files are in flac, is there a program on the mac that 
can play them or, but rather not, convert them to apple lossless?
Thanks,
Greetings, Anouk,

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why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot

[a radix]

Hello, I wonder, why is neooffice not accessible? I thought it was a fork of 
openoffice and even a fork made more for the mac then openoffice. Should it not 
then be more accesible?
Greetings, Anouk,
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RE: preordering SL at $10 price?

[Blake Sinnett]

I missed mine by 8 days, but it's still frustrating. Ahh well.
 
> From: goodi...@msu.edu
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: preordering SL at $10 price?
> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:43:01 -0400
> 
> 
> Oh, Chris, that's awful! I'm so sorry! It's so frustrating when stuff 
> like that happens. :)
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Chris G wrote:
> 
> >
> > It does, and i missed mine by 3 days.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:06:51 -0400
> > Donna Goodin  wrote:
> >
> >> Mark,
> >>
> >> I believe the $10 offer only applies to Macs purchased after June 8.
> >> Donna
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:26 AM, M AUSTEN wrote:
> >>
> >>> I purchased my iMac on the 14th May and have just paid £25 for the
> >>> SL upgrade. Thats the cheapest I've seen it in the UKL
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>> --- On Wed, 26/8/09, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> From: Donna Goodin 
> >>> Subject: preordering SL at $10 price?
> >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >>> Date: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009, 3:24 PM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone successfully ordered SL and been able to purchase it at 
> >>> the
> >>> $10 price for those of us who purchase our Macvs this summer? I 
> >>> have
> >>> been trying for the past hour, and when I get to the verify order
> >>> screen, the $29 price still shows up.
> >>> TIA,
> >>> Donna
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> 
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Chris G 
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> > 

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braille settings dont stay the seem

[a radix]

Hello, every time i plug/unplug my braille from the macbook pro contracted 
braille gets turned on while i previously turned it off because i dont like 
htat option. Is this a big in voiceover?
Braille seems to work fairly well although speech gives more information. I 
really need to program my braille keys so that I can try voicover with braille 
only to get a feel for it.
Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet

[a radix]

Hello, Thanks jonathan and others, resetting my modem DID help. I dont remember 
this from the past, but i did use a router for  atime which crashed, but now 
apparently each time i switch from pc i need to reset my router (this is indeed 
done by pulling the plug and it will reset) i then have to restart my windows 
machine, on the mac it works immediately.
So YES I do now have internet on the mac, great!
I have already downloaded skype, although i am not sure where it put the file, 
i cant seem to locate the safari download folder, also if i open skype it gives 
me some kind of virtual drive... I guess i need to copy a file to the 
applications folder, if I can find the file.
Greetings, Anouk,
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan C. Cohn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:54 PM
  Subject: Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet


  Chris is right here. In the US, these boxes have a battery, so pulling the 
plug and replugging it will not work. You need to find the reset button, on the 
Motorola boxes I have used you need a unfolded paper clip to reset the box. 
Your cable vendor should also be able to do this remotely. Your best bet is 
really to get a firewall router that supports NAT. Otherwise you are subjecting 
your PC software to too much open visability. Apple airport will work, but so 
will Linksys and other inexpensive home routers.


  Jonathan


  On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:39 PM, a radix wrote:


I have only a cable modem, it is not even a real router (it has no internal 
firewall for example) although i use it for phone and internet.
Greetings, Anouk,
  - Original Message -
  From: Chris Blouch
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:42 PM
  Subject: Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet


  Strange. The Macs and PCs use the same DHCP protocols to get an address. 
Is this going right from the router to the Mac or do you have a 
firewall/NAT/wireless thing inbetween. If it is direct then sometime the cable 
modem reads the hardware address of your computer and needs a full power cycle 
to let go and read a new one.

  CB

  a radix wrote:
Hello, my macbook pro arrived this morning via ups I must say its 
quick, i ordered 8 days ago via bank transfer and a custom configuration.
Everything works fine although i get lost in a few dialogs.
I cant connect to the internet htough. I use a cable modem and udner 
windows i can just push in the network cable and I am ready to go. Not so now 
htough.
Any idea of what routers work best with the mac? I was thinking of 
getting a linksis pre-n router, will that work?
If i just configure the touter right and it works on the pc should i 
also just be able to plug it into the mac for it to work?
Greetings, Anouk,











  

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vmware fusion images?

[Joe Quinn]

pardon me if this question has been asked before, but, I ahve the 64bit 
version of windows 7 with vmware fusion 2.5. i want to install it, but all I 
have is the image. how do I get vmware fusion to see it. I've mounted it so 
it shows up on the desktop next to the hd, but can't figure out what else to 
do.


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Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet

[a radix]

Hello, I dont have a router yet but will be getting thwe wrt320n because I 
can get it relatively cheap and I have good experiences with the linksys 
webinterface.
Greetings, Anouk,
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris G" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet


>
> Hi, what Linksys do you have, considering the 610.  Its the N router.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:44:50 -0400
> Chris Blouch  wrote:
>
>> I've been pretty happy with my linksys router. Pretty much works like an
>> outlet strip for internet connections plus adds wireless. It (or my
>> cable modem) was a bit sensitive to power burps so about once a month
>> I'd have to trek down to the basement and power cycle it, but then I
>> installed a UPS and can't recall the last time I had to restart it.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
>> > Chris is right here. In the US, these boxes have a battery, so pulling
>> > the plug and replugging it will not work. You need to find the reset
>> > button, on the Motorola boxes I have used you need a unfolded paper
>> > clip to reset the box. Your cable vendor should also be able to do
>> > this remotely. Your best bet is really to get a firewall router that
>> > supports NAT. Otherwise you are subjecting your PC software to too
>> > much open visability. Apple airport will work, but so will Linksys and
>> > other inexpensive home routers.
>> >
>> > Jonathan
>> >
>> > On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:39 PM, a radix wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have only a cable modem, it is not even a real router (it has no
>> >> internal firewall for example) although i use it for phone and 
>> >> internet.
>> >> Greetings, Anouk,
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> *From:* Chris Blouch 
>> >> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> >> 
>> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:42 PM
>> >> *Subject:* Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet
>> >>
>> >> Strange. The Macs and PCs use the same DHCP protocols to get an
>> >> address. Is this going right from the router to the Mac or do you
>> >> have a firewall/NAT/wireless thing inbetween. If it is direct
>> >> then sometime the cable modem reads the hardware address of your
>> >> computer and needs a full power cycle to let go and read a new 
>> >> one.
>> >>
>> >> CB
>> >>
>> >> a radix wrote:
>> >>> Hello, my macbook pro arrived this morning via ups I must say
>> >>> its quick, i ordered 8 days ago via bank transfer and a custom
>> >>> configuration.
>> >>> Everything works fine although i get lost in a few dialogs.
>> >>> I cant connect to the internet htough. I use a cable modem and
>> >>> udner windows i can just push in the network cable and I am
>> >>> ready to go. Not so now htough.
>> >>> Any idea of what routers work best with the mac? I was thinking
>> >>> of getting a linksis pre-n router, will that work?
>> >>> If i just configure the touter right and it works on the pc
>> >>> should i also just be able to plug it into the mac for it to 
>> >>> work?
>> >>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>>
>> >
>
>
> -- 
> Chris G 
>
>
> >
> 


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Re: New Os or not?

[Scott Howell]

It is a full version and no Leopard DVD is required.
On Aug 26, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:

>
> Fonzie et al,
>
> Are you certain it will be a full copy that ships?  I mean, if the
> user were to choose erase and install, would it not require an actual
> Leopard DVD anywhere in the instalation process?
>
> I ask because a friend of mine is still running Tiger, but has
> recently had to rely on VO way more than before, so she's keen to
> upgrade to take advantage of the new web browsing features among other
> things.  To be blunt, I'm wondering, what's to stop her from strolling
> into the Apple store of her choice, purchasing for the upgrade price,
> and going straight from Tiger to Leopard.
>
> Cheers for any advice
> Scott
>
> On 8/25/09, Fonzie  wrote:
>>
>> Hey there everyone, Hi hope all is well.
>>
>> The Snow Leopard DVD shipping will be a fresh copy, allowing you to  
>> do
>> a clean install if you are wanting to do so.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> I know, once I get the new OS in my hands, I will be doing a fresh
>> install, and wipe out hte current installation I have of Leopard.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> Fonzie
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:17 AM, James & Nash wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So will the Erase and Install not be an option?
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Scott Howell" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:35 AM
>>> Subject: Re: New Os or not?
>>>
>>>

 Well lets clear up one item here.  The erase and install option  
 will
 not be available in the menu as it is now.  This was do to  
 customers
 choosing the wrong option and trashing all their data.  Erase and
 install literally means just that and whatever anyone does, backing
 up
 your data is absolutely critical regardless of how good the os is.
 Anything could happen and loosing your data is not worth taking the
 time to perform this critical step.  This is where Time Machine
 really
 does shine and yeah, I've been there several times and I have
 suffered
 through significant data loss, but well that was do to a drive
 failure
 and the backup tape drive failing. :)
 On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:57 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

>
> You can choose to completely erase your drive before installing.
> Unlike Microsoft which insists on complicating things by having
> completely separate disks for upgrades or full installs, as far  
> as I
> know, apple's operating system disks are all the same.
> On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Mike wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> I'm going to get Snow Leopard but I have a concern.
>> Is it an Upgrade which has to be installed over a previous
>> version of
>> Leopard or can it be ran as a complete fresh install.
>> I don't like the idea of installing another OS over another. It  
>> can
>> be
>> problematic and that sounds vary much like another companies 98
>> platforms.
>> Also, can VO be ran from the install like OSX-10.5?  When I
>> re_installed 10.5 a few months back to try and lick my iTunes
>> issue,
>> when the machine rebooted, just pressed command F-5 and I was off
>> and
>> listening. LOL
>>
>> Thanks:
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
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>>>

>>
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test call on Skype?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

The Windows version of Skype allows you to make a test call to make  
sure things are configured properly.  I don't see this option on the  
Mac version.  Is there some way to do this?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: New Os or not?

[Brent Harding]

I hope the white Macbooks can do the multi tap or whatever they call it. I 
seem to have settings for it and I tested by setting something to 2 fingers 
versus one and it could tell in Leopard. I guess this Snow Leopard will end 
up telling me whether or not I would maybe like an IPhone should Sprint ever 
carry them.

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Chesworth" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: New Os or not?


>
> Fonzie et al,
>
> Are you certain it will be a full copy that ships?  I mean, if the
> user were to choose erase and install, would it not require an actual
> Leopard DVD anywhere in the instalation process?
>
> I ask because a friend of mine is still running Tiger, but has
> recently had to rely on VO way more than before, so she's keen to
> upgrade to take advantage of the new web browsing features among other
> things.  To be blunt, I'm wondering, what's to stop her from strolling
> into the Apple store of her choice, purchasing for the upgrade price,
> and going straight from Tiger to Leopard.
>
> Cheers for any advice
> Scott
>
> On 8/25/09, Fonzie  wrote:
>>
>> Hey there everyone, Hi hope all is well.
>>
>> The Snow Leopard DVD shipping will be a fresh copy, allowing you to do
>> a clean install if you are wanting to do so.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> I know, once I get the new OS in my hands, I will be doing a fresh
>> install, and wipe out hte current installation I have of Leopard.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> Fonzie
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:17 AM, James & Nash wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So will the Erase and Install not be an option?
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Scott Howell" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:35 AM
>>> Subject: Re: New Os or not?
>>>
>>>

 Well lets clear up one item here.  The erase and install option will
 not be available in the menu as it is now.  This was do to customers
 choosing the wrong option and trashing all their data.  Erase and
 install literally means just that and whatever anyone does, backing
 up
 your data is absolutely critical regardless of how good the os is.
 Anything could happen and loosing your data is not worth taking the
 time to perform this critical step.  This is where Time Machine
 really
 does shine and yeah, I've been there several times and I have
 suffered
 through significant data loss, but well that was do to a drive
 failure
 and the backup tape drive failing. :)
 On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:57 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

>
> You can choose to completely erase your drive before installing.
> Unlike Microsoft which insists on complicating things by having
> completely separate disks for upgrades or full installs, as far as I
> know, apple's operating system disks are all the same.
> On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Mike wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> I'm going to get Snow Leopard but I have a concern.
>> Is it an Upgrade which has to be installed over a previous
>> version of
>> Leopard or can it be ran as a complete fresh install.
>> I don't like the idea of installing another OS over another. It can
>> be
>> problematic and that sounds vary much like another companies 98
>> platforms.
>> Also, can VO be ran from the install like OSX-10.5?  When I
>> re_installed 10.5 a few months back to try and lick my iTunes
>> issue,
>> when the machine rebooted, just pressed command F-5 and I was off
>> and
>> listening. LOL
>>
>> Thanks:
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
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>>>
>>> >
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>
> >
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Re: New Os or not?

[Scott Howell]

Yes they will have an option for restoring from TIme Machine or you  
can migrate from a Time Machine backup as well.

On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:20 PM, kaare dehard wrote:

>
> I wonder if they have or will have a restore from time machine backup
> option? If so, would it restore all stuff that you need from a leopard
> backup as well as upgrading to snow-leopard?
>
> On 25-Aug-09, at 9:13 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>
>>
>> The menu option isn't there, but the way I plan to do it is, boot  
>> from
>> the dvd, go to utilities and choose disk utility, erase the drive,
>> then install the new operating system. Of course, before I do this, I
>> will do a complete backup to my external hard drive, and I already
>> have backups of my license keys for programs I have purchased.
>> On Aug 25, 2009, at 4:35 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Well lets clear up one item here.  The erase and install option will
>>> not be available in the menu as it is now.  This was do to customers
>>> choosing the wrong option and trashing all their data.  Erase and
>>> install literally means just that and whatever anyone does, backing
>>> up
>>> your data is absolutely critical regardless of how good the os is.
>>> Anything could happen and loosing your data is not worth taking the
>>> time to perform this critical step.  This is where Time Machine
>>> really
>>> does shine and yeah, I've been there several times and I have
>>> suffered
>>> through significant data loss, but well that was do to a drive
>>> failure
>>> and the backup tape drive failing. :)
>>> On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:57 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>>

 You can choose to completely erase your drive before installing.
 Unlike Microsoft which insists on complicating things by having
 completely separate disks for upgrades or full installs, as far  
 as I
 know, apple's operating system disks are all the same.
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Mike wrote:

>
> Hi all:
>
> I'm going to get Snow Leopard but I have a concern.
> Is it an Upgrade which has to be installed over a previous version
> of
> Leopard or can it be ran as a complete fresh install.
> I don't like the idea of installing another OS over another. It  
> can
> be
> problematic and that sounds vary much like another companies 98
> platforms.
> Also, can VO be ran from the install like OSX-10.5?  When I
> re_installed 10.5 a few months back to try and lick my iTunes
> issue,
> when the machine rebooted, just pressed command F-5 and I was off
> and
> listening. LOL
>
> Thanks:
> Mike
>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: flac files on the mac

[Dane Trethowan]

Another thing that VLC has going for it is its audio and video decoder  
set, blasts Itunes out of the water completely and by the way, for  
those who thought this topic was addressed last week? Wrong! we were  
talking of audio encoders - those things which encode audio from one  
format to another - and not decoders - them things that decode the  
audio so you can hear it .


On 27/08/2009, at 5:38 AM, a radix wrote:

> Well, i wont use itunes for flacs then, i guess i will have to go  
> search for a different main player. I will try switch and vlc
> Greetings, Anouk,
> - Original Message -
> From: Chris Blouch
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:29 PM
> Subject: Re: flac files on the mac
>
> This was covered previously. You have to install some plugins and  
> then cheap by tagging the flacs as being oggs to get iTunes to pull  
> them in.
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg04677.html
>
> CB
>
> a radix wrote:
>>
>> Hello, while I cannot yet use internet, i can use my braille  
>> display and my external hd. All my music files are in flac, is  
>> there a program on the mac that can play them or, but rather not,  
>> convert them to apple lossless?
>> Thanks,
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>
>>
>
>
> >


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Re: iworks vs neoofficeRe: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?

[Dane Trethowan]

I don't call Iwork expensive, I think it was $88.00 or something like  
that when I purchased it earlier on this year, given that Microsoft  
Office is about $300.00 here and isn't accessible one bit then I think  
Iwork 9 goes into my "Bargain" basket, that's where most Mac  
applications belong by the way .

As for the question of what's better? Well, depends on your personal  
taste thus far as far as I can tell, i have a fondness for both and  
both do things very differently from each other at times.  If you're  
familiar with Microsoft Word for example then what Neooffice presents  
you will look very similar whereas Pages looks somewhat different  
though its easy to get used to.

Both product have some accessibility problems at the time of writing,  
at least with Neooffice we stand a good chance of having these  
problems addressed given that the software is "Open Source", the more  
problems the team know about then the better the chances of getting  
them fixed .


On 27/08/2009, at 5:33 AM, a radix wrote:

>
> Hello, i just read an article on wikipedia about neooffice. It is  
> apparently
> a fork of openoffice optimalized for the mac. I will try it as soon  
> as I get
> internet working correctly, it seems very interesting.
> I guess iworks is accessible too, it isnt too expensive. I need an  
> office
> suite that is very much compatible with microsoft office (although i  
> am not
> willing to buy that) for our school when you submit essays online  
> they go
> through a program that prevents plagiatism but htat needs a certain  
> document
> format.
> Greetings, Anouk,
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:51 PM
> Subject: Re: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?
>
>
>>
>> As I Understood it, Neooffice was the new name given the project, it
>> was Open Office and before that it was Star Office .
>>
>>
>> On 27/08/2009, at 1:12 AM, a radix wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello oh, strange that there are two names for it then, neooffice  
>>> and
>>> openoffice.
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?
>>>
>>>

 Yep, its actually Open Office and I use it here all the time,  
 some of
 the ways the programme presents itself take a little getting used  
 to
 though.

 I use the Word Processor mainly and I've had a brief look at the
 Spreadsheet, looks okay.



 a radix wrote:
> Hello, I am reading through a swithc-to-the-mac kind of site and
> they
> recommend neooffice for office applications. I had never heard of
> this
> package before and I wondered if anyone has used it and if it is
> accessible?
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
>>

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Re: flac files on the mac

[Marie Howarth]

switch is a converter.

On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

> Is that a player or a converter?
>
>
> On 27/08/2009, at 2:55 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>> switch is your friend :)
>> and it's free.
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 4:30 PM, a radix wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, while I cannot yet use internet, i can use my braille  
>>> display and my external hd. All my music files are in flac, is  
>>> there a program on the mac that can play them or, but rather not,  
>>> convert them to apple lossless?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion

[Greg Kearney]

Not as far as I know.

Sent from my iPhone

On 26/08/2009, at 11:39 PM, Woody Anna Dresner   
wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know whether upgrading to Snow Leopard will mess up my
> Windows installation with Fusion?
>
> Thanks,
> Anna
>
>
> >

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Re: Mac Box Set

[Dane Trethowan]

The biggest challenge I've come up against with Pages thus far is the  
Auto correct which announces - or is supposed to announce with  
Voiceover - miss-spelt words as you type, that doesn't work but again,  
I believe this is fixed under Snow Leopard.  I've used Footnotes and  
endnotes but have not needed to use tables.  I've used different  
fonts, different allignments and so on but haven't got the hang of how  
you're supposed to do bullets and numbering yet but I'll get there  
, still a bargain though.


On 27/08/2009, at 4:17 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I've used Pages just a bit. It seems to be mostly accessible, though a
> few controls don't speak. I could select Blank Document from the list
> of templates, and  the items on the menu speak. I haven't tried to do
> anything complicated, though. Commands like moving to the next bold
> text don't work, but I've heard that's supposed to be better in Snow
> Leopard.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
> >


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Fwd: Snow Leopard to warn Apple users of malware - reports

[Scott Howell]

Folks, I thought you all would find this article of interest.

Begin forwarded message:

> Date: August 26, 2009 7:50:00 AM EDT
> Subject: Snow Leopard to warn Apple users of malware - reports
> Source: AppleInsider
>
> Only days before the launch of Apple's upcoming operating system  
> upgrade, Snow Leopard, numerous online reports have alleged that the  
> final build includes an anti-malware feature.
>
> Read more…
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Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet

[Chris G]

Hi, what Linksys do you have, considering the 610.  Its the N router.



On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:44:50 -0400
Chris Blouch  wrote:

> I've been pretty happy with my linksys router. Pretty much works like an 
> outlet strip for internet connections plus adds wireless. It (or my 
> cable modem) was a bit sensitive to power burps so about once a month 
> I'd have to trek down to the basement and power cycle it, but then I 
> installed a UPS and can't recall the last time I had to restart it.
> 
> CB
> 
> Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
> > Chris is right here. In the US, these boxes have a battery, so pulling 
> > the plug and replugging it will not work. You need to find the reset 
> > button, on the Motorola boxes I have used you need a unfolded paper 
> > clip to reset the box. Your cable vendor should also be able to do 
> > this remotely. Your best bet is really to get a firewall router that 
> > supports NAT. Otherwise you are subjecting your PC software to too 
> > much open visability. Apple airport will work, but so will Linksys and 
> > other inexpensive home routers.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:39 PM, a radix wrote:
> >
> >> I have only a cable modem, it is not even a real router (it has no 
> >> internal firewall for example) although i use it for phone and internet.
> >> Greetings, Anouk,
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> *From:* Chris Blouch 
> >> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >> 
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:42 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet
> >>
> >> Strange. The Macs and PCs use the same DHCP protocols to get an
> >> address. Is this going right from the router to the Mac or do you
> >> have a firewall/NAT/wireless thing inbetween. If it is direct
> >> then sometime the cable modem reads the hardware address of your
> >> computer and needs a full power cycle to let go and read a new one.
> >>
> >> CB
> >>
> >> a radix wrote:
> >>> Hello, my macbook pro arrived this morning via ups I must say
> >>> its quick, i ordered 8 days ago via bank transfer and a custom
> >>> configuration.
> >>> Everything works fine although i get lost in a few dialogs.
> >>> I cant connect to the internet htough. I use a cable modem and
> >>> udner windows i can just push in the network cable and I am
> >>> ready to go. Not so now htough.
> >>> Any idea of what routers work best with the mac? I was thinking
> >>> of getting a linksis pre-n router, will that work?
> >>> If i just configure the touter right and it works on the pc
> >>> should i also just be able to plug it into the mac for it to work?
> >>> Greetings, Anouk,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > >
> 
> > 


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Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion

[Scott Howell]

And honestly from all I have been reading, a lot will depend on the  
apps your running and it was further explained that most users  
wouldn't notice any difference if SL was running 32 or 64 bit.
On Aug 26, 2009, at 4:37 PM, James & Nash wrote:

>
> From what I've read, SL will default into 32-bit for all machines  
> except
> X-Server machines. Although there are some machines where you can  
> force SL
> to boot into a 64-bit kernel but I'm not sure if this will be a  
> complete
> 64-bit boot. Which MacBook Pro do you have as I do not think that  
> the 13in
> is included in the list of machines that can boot into 64-bit.
> - Original Message -
> From: "a radix" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion
>
>
>>
>> Hello, 32-bit snow leopard? I thought sl would only be available in  
>> 64-bit
>> version?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Chris Blouch" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Assuming Fusion works ok under Snow Leopard, there should be no  
>>> effect
>>> on your Windows installation. According to VMWare, Fusion 2.0.5 and
>>> higher is supposed to run on 32-bit Snow Leopard.
>>>
>>> http://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2009/06/vmware-fusion-205-update-now-available.html
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>> Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
 Hi,

 Does anyone know whether upgrading to Snow Leopard will mess up my
 Windows installation with Fusion?

 Thanks,
 Anna


>

>>>

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Re: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?

[Dane Trethowan]

According to Google their one of the same.


On 27/08/2009, at 3:39 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Hmmm. I thought NeoOffice and OpenOffice were different products.  
> Originally OpenOffice used X11 (a  unix windowing system) and  
> NeoOffice used Java to do the UI from the OpenOffice base code. More  
> recently openOffice came out with an Aqua version which uses native  
> UI APIs instead of X11. Here is one comparison site:
>
> http://neowiki.neooffice.org/index.php/NeoOffice_Feature_Comparison
>
> In their table for support of Mac OSX accessibility framework they  
> have a red x which implies that voiceover support isn't there.
>
> CB
>
> Ben King wrote:
>>
>> Dear Anouk,
>>
>> Welcome to Apple Land.  On the previous podcast of the Mac Review  
>> Cast, they spoke about Neooffice.  It sounds interesting.  I do not  
>> know if it is accessible with Voiceover.  Good Luck.  Have a  
>> wonderful day.
>> Blessings,
>> Ben King
>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:17 AM, a radix wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, I am reading through a swithc-to-the-mac kind of site and  
>>> they recommend neooffice for office applications. I had never  
>>> heard of this package before and I wondered if anyone has used it  
>>> and if it is accessible?
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: flac files on the mac

[Dane Trethowan]

Is that a player or a converter?


On 27/08/2009, at 2:55 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:

> switch is your friend :)
> and it's free.
>
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 4:30 PM, a radix wrote:
>
>> Hello, while I cannot yet use internet, i can use my braille  
>> display and my external hd. All my music files are in flac, is  
>> there a program on the mac that can play them or, but rather not,  
>> convert them to apple lossless?
>> Thanks,
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Mac Box Set

[Dane Trethowan]

Howdy!

I use Pages here all the time, wonderful thing.  I believe - but can't  
comment at this stage - that the accessibility of Pages has some  
significant improvements under Snow Leopard,the software has a few  
little problems now but nothing that prevents me from using it  
extensively.


On 27/08/2009, at 2:26 AM, Larry Wanger wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I noticed that you can purchase a package that gives you Snow  
> Leopard along
> with Ilife 09 and iWork 09 as well. I'm wondering about the  
> accessibility of
> pages and the other apps that are part of the iWork suite. I've heard
> terrific things about these programs and would love to use them but,  
> before
> I shell out the money I'd like to find out if VO works with them.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
>
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Re: firefox

[Rafael Bejarano]

I appreciate it.

Rafael
On Aug 26, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Moi Lejter wrote:

>
> As I recall, we did not try to combine VO with Firefox (and the
> FireVox extension).  IIRC, FireVox on its own was able to
> read content shown on the Firefox window aloud, which was
> what we were looking for at the time.  I don't remember whether
> we ran into any other issues when trying it out, though - but
> I will try to install it again, and play with it a bit, then report
> back.
>
> Moises
>
> On Aug 26, 12:59 pm, Rafael Bejarano  wrote:
>> Aside from the language-switching problem, did you find FireFox
>> accessible with VO?
>>
>> Rafael
>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Moi Lejter wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Speaking of voice support for Firefox - there is an extension to
>>> Firefox that supports something like VoiceOver.  The extension
>>> is called FireVox, and it is available here:
>>> http://firevox.clcworld.net/
>>
>>> When we took a look at it, the deal breaker for us was that
>>> it could not switch voices on the fly, and we needed to be able
>>> to switch from English to Spanish voices, without logging out
>>> and back in...
>>
>>> Moises
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Re: New Os or not?

[Scott Chesworth]

Fonzie et al,

Are you certain it will be a full copy that ships?  I mean, if the
user were to choose erase and install, would it not require an actual
Leopard DVD anywhere in the instalation process?

I ask because a friend of mine is still running Tiger, but has
recently had to rely on VO way more than before, so she's keen to
upgrade to take advantage of the new web browsing features among other
things.  To be blunt, I'm wondering, what's to stop her from strolling
into the Apple store of her choice, purchasing for the upgrade price,
and going straight from Tiger to Leopard.

Cheers for any advice
Scott

On 8/25/09, Fonzie  wrote:
>
> Hey there everyone, Hi hope all is well.
>
> The Snow Leopard DVD shipping will be a fresh copy, allowing you to do
> a clean install if you are wanting to do so.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> I know, once I get the new OS in my hands, I will be doing a fresh
> install, and wipe out hte current installation I have of Leopard.
>
> Take care
>
> Fonzie
>
> On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:17 AM, James & Nash wrote:
>
>>
>> So will the Erase and Install not be an option?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Howell" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: New Os or not?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Well lets clear up one item here.  The erase and install option will
>>> not be available in the menu as it is now.  This was do to customers
>>> choosing the wrong option and trashing all their data.  Erase and
>>> install literally means just that and whatever anyone does, backing
>>> up
>>> your data is absolutely critical regardless of how good the os is.
>>> Anything could happen and loosing your data is not worth taking the
>>> time to perform this critical step.  This is where Time Machine
>>> really
>>> does shine and yeah, I've been there several times and I have
>>> suffered
>>> through significant data loss, but well that was do to a drive
>>> failure
>>> and the backup tape drive failing. :)
>>> On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:57 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>>

 You can choose to completely erase your drive before installing.
 Unlike Microsoft which insists on complicating things by having
 completely separate disks for upgrades or full installs, as far as I
 know, apple's operating system disks are all the same.
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Mike wrote:

>
> Hi all:
>
> I'm going to get Snow Leopard but I have a concern.
> Is it an Upgrade which has to be installed over a previous
> version of
> Leopard or can it be ran as a complete fresh install.
> I don't like the idea of installing another OS over another. It can
> be
> problematic and that sounds vary much like another companies 98
> platforms.
> Also, can VO be ran from the install like OSX-10.5?  When I
> re_installed 10.5 a few months back to try and lick my iTunes
> issue,
> when the machine rebooted, just pressed command F-5 and I was off
> and
> listening. LOL
>
> Thanks:
> Mike
>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
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Re: preordering SL at $10 price?

[Scott Howell]

Ah well my MBP is eligible for the $10 upgrade, but since I have other  
Macs, I just spent the $49. Ah, what's another $19. :)
On Aug 26, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

>
> Oh, Chris, that's awful! I'm so sorry!  It's so frustrating when stuff
> like that happens. :)
> Donna
>
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Chris G wrote:
>
>>
>> It does, and i missed mine by 3 days.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:06:51 -0400
>> Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> I believe the $10 offer only applies to Macs purchased after June 8.
>>> Donna
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:26 AM, M AUSTEN wrote:
>>>
 I purchased my iMac on the 14th May and have just paid £25 for the
 SL upgrade. Thats the cheapest I've seen it in the UKL

 Mark

 --- On Wed, 26/8/09, Donna Goodin  wrote:

 From: Donna Goodin 
 Subject: preordering SL at $10 price?
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009, 3:24 PM


 Hi all,

 Has anyone successfully ordered SL and been able to purchase it at
 the
 $10 price for those of us who purchase our Macvs this summer?  I
 have
 been trying for the past hour, and when I get to the verify order
 screen, the $29 price still shows up.
 TIA,
 Donna




>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Chris G 
>>
>>
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Re: switching graphics card, macbook pro

[Scott Howell]

That is correct, you make the change in System Preferences, but making  
the change is not necessarily going to increase performance either.  
The Mac will switch if I recall correctly for graphics intensive  
processes. The option is in System Preferences, Energy Saver and look  
for graphics. This will be a radio button you set either for better  
battery life or better performance. Just not sure how much performance  
increase there will be. Think I'll have to try it out and honestly I'm  
not sure how much it would affect battery life either and something  
else to check into.
On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

>
> I believe I read about this on Apple Insider yesterday. My memory is
> that you switch using system preferences, but then need to logout and
> in in order for the change to take effect.
> On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:14 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>
>>
>> May I ask why you think it will come with 2 cards? At any rate, even
>> if it does, you'd want to use the dedicated card over the onboard one
>> anyway.
>>
>> On 26/08/2009, a radix  wrote:
>>> Hello everyone, my macbook pro will be here tomorrow. It will come
>>> with two
>>> graphics cards, one dedicated card and one chip on the motherboard.
>>> Does
>>> anyone know how you can switch between those two? Is there a
>>> physica lbutton
>>> or slider on the macbook pro or do you have to do it via software?
>>> do you
>>> have to reboot after a switch?
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Greetings, Anouk,

>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Kind regards, BEN.
>>
>> email: bmustillr...@gmail.com
>> msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com
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Re: Using lowest availible graphics memory

[Chris Blouch]

All the Mac minis have shared video RAM starting with the early 2006 
models when they switched from ATI to Intel video chipsets. I don't 
think any other macs do this.

CB

ben mustill-rose wrote:
> I think James is talking about when onboard graphics cards use some
> ram as graphics memory. Having said this, I was under the impression
> that every mac has a dedicated card with its own bit of video ram?
>
> On 25/08/2009, James & Nash  wrote:
>   
>> You might be right CB Thanks James
>>   - Original Message -
>>   From: Chris Blouch
>>   To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>   Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:36 PM
>>   Subject: Re: Using lowest availible graphics memory
>>
>>
>>   I also wonder if the tiny display width won't make Safari's page layout
>> break since sites will be rendered as skinny very long pages. VO does
>> represent the visual layout so if the layout is disturbed so will the VO
>> navigation be.
>>
>>   CB
>>
>>   Scott Howell wrote:
>> Hmmm, I don't know if I buy that one.  I haven't read that anywhere
>> and I seriously doubt you'd notice an improvement of any significance
>> in doing this.
>> On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:39 PM, James & Nash wrote:
>>
>>   Hi Scott,
>>
>> Thanks. No I don't have any vision, but wanted to increase my
>> performance. I
>> think I read somewhere that by decreasing graphics this could be
>> achieved.
>>
>> Take care
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Howell" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: Using lowest availible graphics memory
>>
>>
>> James go to System Preferences, choose Displays, choose the display
>> tab, and navigate to the resolutions table.  Make your selection
>> there.  ANy reason you want to do this or are you wanting to increase
>> the size of the font?  You can of course use the zoom features if you
>> have some vision.
>>
>> hth,
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2009, at 1:52 PM, James & Nash wrote:
>>
>>   Hi folks,
>>
>> Not being able to see the screen, is there anyway that i can get Mac
>> OS X to
>> use the lowest amount of graphics please?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
>
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Re: voicover speaking when you login

[Scott Howell]

System Preferences, Accounts, Accounts and Login Options. Takes a  
little poking about, but you'll locate it.
On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:12 AM, a radix wrote:

> Hello, I forgot where I can select this, does anybody know?
> Thanks,
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
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Re: program to split a 6 gig dmg in to 2 dvds?

[ben mustill-rose]

Would something like
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1233627
be possible?

On 26/08/2009, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> If this is an installer, I don't think you can split it. DMG files get
> mounted up as disk drives and so the installer can and will seek for
> files all over the virtual disk. There is no requirement that they pull
> in all the files from one and then move to the rest. There are lots of
> ways to split a file in pieces, but you'll have to combine them together
> before you can use it. If they are just data files then there is no need
> for the DMG. Beyond that you would need to have intimate knowledge of
> which files are needed when and make a custom installer, probably beyond
> the scope of work you wanted to tackle.
>
> CB
>
> hank smith wrote:
>> hello I have a 6 gig dmg
>> this is a bootable disk
>> need to split this in to 2 dvds have it ask me to hit enter when
>> second disk is inserted
>> what program will do this?
>>
>> Hank
>>
>> >
>
> >
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Re: cut and paste

[Donna Goodin]

Oh, weird! That wouldn't have occured to me.  thanks.
Donna
On Aug 26, 2009, at 5:37 PM, louie wrote:

> There is a move automater program that I use. I do not remember  
> where I got it from. Some on on the list may know where to get it. A  
> search of the archives should turn it up.
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
>> It's not a huge deal, and it's certainly not difficult to use  
>> Command Delete to move a file to trash.  I just think it would be  
>> nice to be able to cut and paste, ratherh than copy, paste, delete.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it doesn't fit the zxcv model but you can just do command  
>>> delete to move a file to the trash. If that's a bit difficult you  
>>> can use the Keyboard Shortcuts tab of the Keyboard and Mouse  
>>> System Preferences to map Command-X to Move to Trash. Not exactly  
>>> the behavior you described, but closer.
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>> Donna Goodin wrote:

 I agree with Anna, here.  It's really annoying to have to copy  
 and paste files, and then have to go back to the original and  
 delete it.  Cut and paste is much more efficient, and I'd  
 sacrifice the danger factor.  It just means you have to be a bit  
 more careful.
 Donna

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Blouch 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:12 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: cut and paste


 I thought you could already copy and paste files. I'm not sure I  
 would
 want cut equated to delete since that's a rather dangerous thing  
 to do
 and I might hit cut when I meant copy. At least I do that with  
 text all
 the time and have to undo.

 CB

 Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Pathfinder discussion made me think of this question. Does  
> anyone
> know whether Snow Leopard will allow cut and paste of files and of
> things like items in playlists? I sure hope so.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>






>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> louie
> louiem...@wavecable.com
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Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet

[Chris Blouch]

I've been pretty happy with my linksys router. Pretty much works like an 
outlet strip for internet connections plus adds wireless. It (or my 
cable modem) was a bit sensitive to power burps so about once a month 
I'd have to trek down to the basement and power cycle it, but then I 
installed a UPS and can't recall the last time I had to restart it.

CB

Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
> Chris is right here. In the US, these boxes have a battery, so pulling 
> the plug and replugging it will not work. You need to find the reset 
> button, on the Motorola boxes I have used you need a unfolded paper 
> clip to reset the box. Your cable vendor should also be able to do 
> this remotely. Your best bet is really to get a firewall router that 
> supports NAT. Otherwise you are subjecting your PC software to too 
> much open visability. Apple airport will work, but so will Linksys and 
> other inexpensive home routers.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:39 PM, a radix wrote:
>
>> I have only a cable modem, it is not even a real router (it has no 
>> internal firewall for example) although i use it for phone and internet.
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Chris Blouch 
>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:42 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet
>>
>> Strange. The Macs and PCs use the same DHCP protocols to get an
>> address. Is this going right from the router to the Mac or do you
>> have a firewall/NAT/wireless thing inbetween. If it is direct
>> then sometime the cable modem reads the hardware address of your
>> computer and needs a full power cycle to let go and read a new one.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> a radix wrote:
>>> Hello, my macbook pro arrived this morning via ups I must say
>>> its quick, i ordered 8 days ago via bank transfer and a custom
>>> configuration.
>>> Everything works fine although i get lost in a few dialogs.
>>> I cant connect to the internet htough. I use a cable modem and
>>> udner windows i can just push in the network cable and I am
>>> ready to go. Not so now htough.
>>> Any idea of what routers work best with the mac? I was thinking
>>> of getting a linksis pre-n router, will that work?
>>> If i just configure the touter right and it works on the pc
>>> should i also just be able to plug it into the mac for it to work?
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: feeling pretty disgusted with Apple at the moment

[william lomas]

ah which laptop you go for

On 26 Aug 2009, at 18:08, James & Nash wrote:

>
> I'm sorry for your difficulties. When I purchased my new MacBook  
> today, I
> had no difficulties. In fact, they could not ahve been kinder. They  
> gave me
> a considerable discount on the price of my mac especially  
> considering I
> asked for an upgrade on the HD. I assume I get SL with the laptop next
> Friday.
>
> Take care
>
> James
> - Original Message -
> From: "Donna Goodin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:11 PM
> Subject: feeling pretty disgusted with Apple at the moment
>
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> For the benefit of anyone else who may be trying to get the promised
>> discount on SL ...
>>
>> I've just spent 2 hours online, trying to preorder at the $10 price.
>> I have been unable to get anything but the $29 price.  Right on
>> Apple's site, they say you can also purchase via telephone by calling
>> 1800-myapple.  But, when you call them, they are utterly worthless.
>> They tell you they cannot take orders, and that you must purchase
>> online, or fax them a copy of your order.  When I asked to speak to a
>> supervisor, I was told that that was not an option.  Finally, I  
>> called
>> my local store, to see if they could help.  Fortunately, they're very
>> nice folks, and the manager agreed to let me come in and pick it up  
>> in
>> the store on Friday for the $10 price.  However, I should never have
>> had to work so hard to give Apple my money, even if it is just $10,
>> especially given the high degree of user/customerfriendliness on  
>> which
>> Apple prides itself.
>>
>> So, yes, there is a purpose to this message other than my rant.  If
>> you are a new user, and want to get the $10 price, my suggestion  
>> would
>> be to just skep the whole online debacle, and just contact your  
>> store.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion

[Chris Blouch]

If not the update is free.

CB

Les Kriegler wrote:
> I ordered Fusion a couple of weeks ago, so can I assume I have the correct
> version for Snow Leopard?  I'm ordering a MacBook Pro on Friday.
>
> Les 
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion
>
>
> Assuming Fusion works ok under Snow Leopard, there should be no effect on
> your Windows installation. According to VMWare, Fusion 2.0.5 and higher is
> supposed to run on 32-bit Snow Leopard.
>
> http://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2009/06/vmware-fusion-205-update-now-avai
> lable.html
>
> CB
>
> Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anyone know whether upgrading to Snow Leopard will mess up my 
>> Windows installation with Fusion?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>> 
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RE: Snow Leopard and Fusion

[Les Kriegler]

I ordered Fusion a couple of weeks ago, so can I assume I have the correct
version for Snow Leopard?  I'm ordering a MacBook Pro on Friday.

Les 

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:26 PM
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Subject: Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion


Assuming Fusion works ok under Snow Leopard, there should be no effect on
your Windows installation. According to VMWare, Fusion 2.0.5 and higher is
supposed to run on 32-bit Snow Leopard.

http://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2009/06/vmware-fusion-205-update-now-avai
lable.html

CB

Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know whether upgrading to Snow Leopard will mess up my 
> Windows installation with Fusion?
>
> Thanks,
> Anna
>
>
> >
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Re: firefox

[Chris Hofstader]

Write to the Mozilla accessibility team with a request for your  
feature in FV.  They have some really excellent hackers, one of the  
best is a blind friend of mine who is also former FS, and they'll put  
it on there list.  Promise to help with documentation or testing or  
something and you'll get things done sooner.

Or, find a friend on something like the blind programming list (it's  
on freelists) who may be willing to do it for a sandwich.

Happy Hacking,
cdh
On Aug 26, 2009, at 2:59 PM, James & Nash wrote:

>
> You don't necessarily need the Firerevox plugin on either Widnows Or  
> Linux,
> but it's great that it exists. I'm not a programmer so wouldn't have  
> the
> first clue about how to add something.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Hofstader" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: firefox
>
>
>>
>> You know, when it comes to FireVox you have the source code so you
>> could have added the feature you wanted, shared your work with the
>> community and solved your problem all in one action.
>>
>> Also, Chen, author of FireVox, works at Google and is real nice about
>> adding features and other stuff to the plug-in.
>>
>> I don't know how well FV works on a Mac but Windows and GNU/Linux
>> systems are pretty nice.
>>
>> cdh
>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Moi Lejter wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Speaking of voice support for Firefox - there is an extension to
>>> Firefox that supports something like VoiceOver.  The extension
>>> is called FireVox, and it is available here:
>>> http://firevox.clcworld.net/
>>>
>>> When we took a look at it, the deal breaker for us was that
>>> it could not switch voices on the fly, and we needed to be able
>>> to switch from English to Spanish voices, without logging out
>>> and back in...
>>>
>>> Moises
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
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Re: pre-orders of snowleopard

[Brent Harding]

I would doubt they could actually guarantee delivery then without the 
possibility of it coming on Thursday. It would have to ship today. If they 
ship Fedex, it could come Saturday when I'm not here.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris G" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: pre-orders of snowleopard


>
> No idea.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:04:17 +0100
> william lomas  wrote:
>
>>
>> wonder what about the UK
>>
>> On 26 Aug 2009, at 17:27, Chris G wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > I just called apple and placed my order.  It is guaranteed to be
>> > there on
>> > Friday.
>> >
>> > Orders need to be placed by 1 pm your local time in the USA to have it
>> > on Friday.
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:09:58 -0400
>> > Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I'm guessing it will ship on Friday. I've got my preorder in with
>> >> Apple.
>> >>
>> >> CB
>> >>
>> >> william lomas wrote:
>> >>>hi will customers who pre order snowleopard online get it
>> >>> on the day
>> >>> of shipment on the friday?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> 
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > Chris G 
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
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Re: cut and paste

[louie]

There is a move automater program that I use. I do not remember where  
I got it from. Some on on the list may know where to get it. A search  
of the archives should turn it up.
On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> It's not a huge deal, and it's certainly not difficult to use  
> Command Delete to move a file to trash.  I just think it would be  
> nice to be able to cut and paste, ratherh than copy, paste, delete.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>> Well, it doesn't fit the zxcv model but you can just do command  
>> delete to move a file to the trash. If that's a bit difficult you  
>> can use the Keyboard Shortcuts tab of the Keyboard and Mouse System  
>> Preferences to map Command-X to Move to Trash. Not exactly the  
>> behavior you described, but closer.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with Anna, here.  It's really annoying to have to copy and  
>>> paste files, and then have to go back to the original and delete  
>>> it.  Cut and paste is much more efficient, and I'd sacrifice the  
>>> danger factor.  It just means you have to be a bit more careful.
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Chris Blouch 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:12 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: cut and paste
>>>
>>>
>>> I thought you could already copy and paste files. I'm not sure I  
>>> would
>>> want cut equated to delete since that's a rather dangerous thing  
>>> to do
>>> and I might hit cut when I meant copy. At least I do that with  
>>> text all
>>> the time and have to undo.
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>> Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 The Pathfinder discussion made me think of this question. Does  
 anyone
 know whether Snow Leopard will allow cut and paste of files and of
 things like items in playlists? I sure hope so.

 Best,
 Anna





>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> >

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Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion

[James & Nash]

>From what I've read, SL will default into 32-bit for all machines except 
X-Server machines. Although there are some machines where you can force SL 
to boot into a 64-bit kernel but I'm not sure if this will be a complete 
64-bit boot. Which MacBook Pro do you have as I do not think that the 13in 
is included in the list of machines that can boot into 64-bit.
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion


>
> Hello, 32-bit snow leopard? I thought sl would only be available in 64-bit
> version?
> Greetings, Anouk,
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chris Blouch" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion
>
>
>>
>> Assuming Fusion works ok under Snow Leopard, there should be no effect
>> on your Windows installation. According to VMWare, Fusion 2.0.5 and
>> higher is supposed to run on 32-bit Snow Leopard.
>>
>> http://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2009/06/vmware-fusion-205-update-now-available.html
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Does anyone know whether upgrading to Snow Leopard will mess up my
>>> Windows installation with Fusion?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Anna
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>> >
>
>
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Re: cut and paste

[Donna Goodin]

It's not a huge deal, and it's certainly not difficult to use Command  
Delete to move a file to trash.  I just think it would be nice to be  
able to cut and paste, ratherh than copy, paste, delete.
Cheers,
Donna
On Aug 26, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Well, it doesn't fit the zxcv model but you can just do command  
> delete to move a file to the trash. If that's a bit difficult you  
> can use the Keyboard Shortcuts tab of the Keyboard and Mouse System  
> Preferences to map Command-X to Move to Trash. Not exactly the  
> behavior you described, but closer.
>
> CB
>
> Donna Goodin wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Anna, here.  It's really annoying to have to copy and  
>> paste files, and then have to go back to the original and delete  
>> it.  Cut and paste is much more efficient, and I'd sacrifice the  
>> danger factor.  It just means you have to be a bit more careful.
>> Donna
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Chris Blouch 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:12 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: cut and paste
>>
>>
>> I thought you could already copy and paste files. I'm not sure I  
>> would
>> want cut equated to delete since that's a rather dangerous thing to  
>> do
>> and I might hit cut when I meant copy. At least I do that with text  
>> all
>> the time and have to undo.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The Pathfinder discussion made me think of this question. Does  
>>> anyone
>>> know whether Snow Leopard will allow cut and paste of files and of
>>> things like items in playlists? I sure hope so.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

Hello;  try going to system setting and then to network settings.   
perhaps since it is a brand new macbook, there is a start procedure  
you need to go through.  I've never been lucky enough to buy brand  
new, so i wouldn't know.  I hope that helps, Max
On Aug 26, 2009, at 2:57 PM, a radix wrote:

> Hello, I am planning to do that yes, i just find it very strange  
> that I cannot use internet at this moment.
> I will call my internet provider to see if i need to enter any  
> information. I know i did have to do that in the past but my  
> internet provider has changed (it has been taken over by another)  
> and as i said i did not enter anything into this computer (the pc i  
> am using now) and it still works.
> Greetings, Anouk,
> - Original Message -
> From: Maxwell Ivey Jr.
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:34 PM
> Subject: Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet
>
> Hello;  why don't you just purchase a wireless router?  You plug it  
> into your cable system, and then you could take your laptop anywhere  
> in the house.  They are very cheap and relatively easy to install  
> here.  glad to hear we have another mac user in the fold.  have fun  
> with it, Max
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:07 AM, a radix wrote:
>
>> Hello, my macbook pro arrived this morning via ups I must say its  
>> quick, i ordered 8 days ago via bank transfer and a custom  
>> configuration.
>> Everything works fine although i get lost in a few dialogs.
>> I cant connect to the internet htough. I use a cable modem and  
>> udner windows i can just push in the network cable and I am ready  
>> to go. Not so now htough.
>> Any idea of what routers work best with the mac? I was thinking of  
>> getting a linksis pre-n router, will that work?
>> If i just configure the touter right and it works on the pc should  
>> i also just be able to plug it into the mac for it to work?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>
>>
>>
>> >>


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Re: iworks vs neoofficeRe: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?

[James & Nash]

MS Office is not accessible on Mac OS X
- Original Message - 
From: "a radix" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:33 PM
Subject: iworks vs neoofficeRe: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?


>
> Hello, i just read an article on wikipedia about neooffice. It is 
> apparently
> a fork of openoffice optimalized for the mac. I will try it as soon as I 
> get
> internet working correctly, it seems very interesting.
> I guess iworks is accessible too, it isnt too expensive. I need an office
> suite that is very much compatible with microsoft office (although i am 
> not
> willing to buy that) for our school when you submit essays online they go
> through a program that prevents plagiatism but htat needs a certain 
> document
> format.
> Greetings, Anouk,
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:51 PM
> Subject: Re: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?
>
>
>>
>> As I Understood it, Neooffice was the new name given the project, it
>> was Open Office and before that it was Star Office .
>>
>>
>> On 27/08/2009, at 1:12 AM, a radix wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello oh, strange that there are two names for it then, neooffice and
>>> openoffice.
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?
>>>
>>>

 Yep, its actually Open Office and I use it here all the time, some of
 the ways the programme presents itself take a little getting used to
 though.

 I use the Word Processor mainly and I've had a brief look at the
 Spreadsheet, looks okay.



 a radix wrote:
> Hello, I am reading through a swithc-to-the-mac kind of site and
> they
> recommend neooffice for office applications. I had never heard of
> this
> package before and I wondered if anyone has used it and if it is
> accessible?
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
>>

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Re: feeling pretty disgusted with Apple at the moment

[James & Nash]

I'm sorry you had such a bad time with them. I hope you're problems are now 
resolved

Take care

james
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From: "Donna Goodin" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: feeling pretty disgusted with Apple at the moment


>
> Hi James,
>
> I'm so glad you had such a great experience.  It sounds like Apple has
> had problems with the website.  Hopefully those have been resolved.
>
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:08 PM, James & Nash wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm sorry for your difficulties. When I purchased my new MacBook
>> today, I
>> had no difficulties. In fact, they could not ahve been kinder. They
>> gave me
>> a considerable discount on the price of my mac especially
>> considering I
>> asked for an upgrade on the HD. I assume I get SL with the laptop next
>> Friday.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> James
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Donna Goodin" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:11 PM
>> Subject: feeling pretty disgusted with Apple at the moment
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> For the benefit of anyone else who may be trying to get the promised
>>> discount on SL ...
>>>
>>> I've just spent 2 hours online, trying to preorder at the $10 price.
>>> I have been unable to get anything but the $29 price.  Right on
>>> Apple's site, they say you can also purchase via telephone by calling
>>> 1800-myapple.  But, when you call them, they are utterly worthless.
>>> They tell you they cannot take orders, and that you must purchase
>>> online, or fax them a copy of your order.  When I asked to speak to a
>>> supervisor, I was told that that was not an option.  Finally, I
>>> called
>>> my local store, to see if they could help.  Fortunately, they're very
>>> nice folks, and the manager agreed to let me come in and pick it up
>>> in
>>> the store on Friday for the $10 price.  However, I should never have
>>> had to work so hard to give Apple my money, even if it is just $10,
>>> especially given the high degree of user/customerfriendliness on
>>> which
>>> Apple prides itself.
>>>
>>> So, yes, there is a purpose to this message other than my rant.  If
>>> you are a new user, and want to get the $10 price, my suggestion
>>> would
>>> be to just skep the whole online debacle, and just contact your
>>> store.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>>

>>
>>
>> >
>>
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Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Chris is right here. In the US, these boxes have a battery, so pulling  
the plug and replugging it will not work. You need to find the reset  
button, on the Motorola boxes I have used you need a unfolded paper  
clip to reset the box. Your cable vendor should also be able to do  
this remotely. Your best bet is really to get a firewall router that  
supports NAT. Otherwise you are subjecting your PC software to too  
much open visability. Apple airport will work, but so will Linksys and  
other inexpensive home routers.

Jonathan

On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:39 PM, a radix wrote:

> I have only a cable modem, it is not even a real router (it has no  
> internal firewall for example) although i use it for phone and  
> internet.
> Greetings, Anouk,
> - Original Message -
> From: Chris Blouch
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet
>
> Strange. The Macs and PCs use the same DHCP protocols to get an  
> address. Is this going right from the router to the Mac or do you  
> have a firewall/NAT/wireless thing inbetween. If it is direct then  
> sometime the cable modem reads the hardware address of your computer  
> and needs a full power cycle to let go and read a new one.
>
> CB
>
> a radix wrote:
>>
>> Hello, my macbook pro arrived this morning via ups I must say its  
>> quick, i ordered 8 days ago via bank transfer and a custom  
>> configuration.
>> Everything works fine although i get lost in a few dialogs.
>> I cant connect to the internet htough. I use a cable modem and  
>> udner windows i can just push in the network cable and I am ready  
>> to go. Not so now htough.
>> Any idea of what routers work best with the mac? I was thinking of  
>> getting a linksis pre-n router, will that work?
>> If i just configure the touter right and it works on the pc should  
>> i also just be able to plug it into the mac for it to work?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: iworks vs neoofficeRe: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?

[Chris Blouch]

Open Office seems to work fairly well with VO. NeoOffice claims not to, 
but I haven't tried it recently.

CB

a radix wrote:
> Hello, i just read an article on wikipedia about neooffice. It is apparently 
> a fork of openoffice optimalized for the mac. I will try it as soon as I get 
> internet working correctly, it seems very interesting.
> I guess iworks is accessible too, it isnt too expensive. I need an office 
> suite that is very much compatible with microsoft office (although i am not 
> willing to buy that) for our school when you submit essays online they go 
> through a program that prevents plagiatism but htat needs a certain document 
> format.
> Greetings, Anouk,
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:51 PM
> Subject: Re: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?
>
>
>   
>> As I Understood it, Neooffice was the new name given the project, it
>> was Open Office and before that it was Star Office .
>>
>>
>> On 27/08/2009, at 1:12 AM, a radix wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Hello oh, strange that there are two names for it then, neooffice and
>>> openoffice.
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 Yep, its actually Open Office and I use it here all the time, some of
 the ways the programme presents itself take a little getting used to
 though.

 I use the Word Processor mainly and I've had a brief look at the
 Spreadsheet, looks okay.



 a radix wrote:
 
> Hello, I am reading through a swithc-to-the-mac kind of site and
> they
> recommend neooffice for office applications. I had never heard of
> this
> package before and I wondered if anyone has used it and if it is
> accessible?
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
>   
 -- 

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 From Melton Victoria Australia
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Re: switching graphics card, macbook pro

[Chris Blouch]

This is correct. To switch between the NVIDIA 9400M to the 9600M GT and 
back you need to make the change in the energy saver preferences and 
then log out and back in again. Engadget was complaining that the 
chipset doesn't require this and the Sony laptops just have a button 
which requires no login/out process.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pro-requires-logout-to-switch-graphics-modes/

CB

Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
> I believe I read about this on Apple Insider yesterday. My memory is  
> that you switch using system preferences, but then need to logout and  
> in in order for the change to take effect.
> On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:14 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>
>   
>> May I ask why you think it will come with 2 cards? At any rate, even
>> if it does, you'd want to use the dedicated card over the onboard one
>> anyway.
>>
>> On 26/08/2009, a radix  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone, my macbook pro will be here tomorrow. It will come  
>>> with two
>>> graphics cards, one dedicated card and one chip on the motherboard.  
>>> Does
>>> anyone know how you can switch between those two? Is there a  
>>> physica lbutton
>>> or slider on the macbook pro or do you have to do it via software?  
>>> do you
>>> have to reboot after a switch?
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>   
>> -- 
>> Kind regards, BEN.
>>
>> email: bmustillr...@gmail.com
>> msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com
>> web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction)
>>
>> 
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Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet

[Chris Blouch]

I know for another provider at another location I actually had to call 
them to get the MAC address unstuck from my cable modem so I could plug 
in another computer. Maybe it has your laptop's MAC address stuck in 
there or they only allow access from certain MAC addresses. Did the 
power cycle help any?

CB

a radix wrote:
> Hello, I am planning to do that yes, i just find it very strange that 
> I cannot use internet at this moment.
> I will call my internet provider to see if i need to enter any 
> information. I know i did have to do that in the past but my internet 
> provider has changed (it has been taken over by another) and as i said 
> i did not enter anything into this computer (the pc i am using now) 
> and it still works.
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Maxwell Ivey Jr. 
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:34 PM
> *Subject:* Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet
>
> Hello;  why don't you just purchase a wireless router?  You plug
> it into your cable system, and then you could take your laptop
> anywhere in the house.  They are very cheap and relatively easy to
> install here.  glad to hear we have another mac user in the fold.
>  have fun with it, Max 
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:07 AM, a radix wrote:
>
>> Hello, my macbook pro arrived this morning via ups I must say its
>> quick, i ordered 8 days ago via bank transfer and a custom
>> configuration.
>> Everything works fine although i get lost in a few dialogs.
>> I cant connect to the internet htough. I use a cable modem and
>> udner windows i can just push in the network cable and I am ready
>> to go. Not so now htough.
>> Any idea of what routers work best with the mac? I was thinking
>> of getting a linksis pre-n router, will that work?
>> If i just configure the touter right and it works on the pc
>> should i also just be able to plug it into the mac for it to work?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>
>>
>>
>> >>

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Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion

[Chris Blouch]

It gets a bit complicated. Other than Apple's XServe boxes I believe all 
Macs will be running 32-bit kernels due to the extensible firmware 
interface being 32-bit. Details are here:

http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Snow_Leopard_Boots_with_32-bit_Mode/551-105770-893.html

CB

a radix wrote:
> Hello, 32-bit snow leopard? I thought sl would only be available in 64-bit 
> version?
> Greetings, Anouk,
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chris Blouch" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion
>
>
>   
>> Assuming Fusion works ok under Snow Leopard, there should be no effect
>> on your Windows installation. According to VMWare, Fusion 2.0.5 and
>> higher is supposed to run on 32-bit Snow Leopard.
>>
>> http://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2009/06/vmware-fusion-205-update-now-available.html
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Does anyone know whether upgrading to Snow Leopard will mess up my
>>> Windows installation with Fusion?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Anna
>>>
>>>
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update on $10 upgrade to SL

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

Following Esther's message, I decided to take another run at  
upgrading, since what she said coincided with what I had been told  
from the guy at my local apple store..  this time, when I pulled up  
the page, it came right up, justas the person at the Apple  storehad  
described.  So who knows.  Given what Anna posted, it sounds like I'm  
not the only one who experienced this glitch, but hopefully the site  
is back up to stay.
Cheers,
Donna

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Adobe Accessibility

[James & Nash]

Hi folks,
Recently, there was a post I think on here about a patition to ask Adobe to 
increase its support for accessibility on the Mac platform. This may 
interest folks on here. According to the NVDA website, Adobe have provided a 
grzant to improve NVDA's sup[ort for PDF and Flash.

I'm not posting this to start a a bad mouthing session about Adobe or 
Windows etc but just as a point of interest. Adobe are taking steps even 
though perhaps not on the Mac but who knows... a little bit of gentle 
coaxing may do wonders. Does anyone know who to contact to discuss 
accessibility at Adobe?

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Re: feeling pretty disgusted with Apple at the moment

[Donna Goodin]

Hi James,

I'm so glad you had such a great experience.  It sounds like Apple has  
had problems with the website.  Hopefully those have been resolved.

Cheers,
Donna
On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:08 PM, James & Nash wrote:

>
> I'm sorry for your difficulties. When I purchased my new MacBook  
> today, I
> had no difficulties. In fact, they could not ahve been kinder. They  
> gave me
> a considerable discount on the price of my mac especially  
> considering I
> asked for an upgrade on the HD. I assume I get SL with the laptop next
> Friday.
>
> Take care
>
> James
> - Original Message -
> From: "Donna Goodin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:11 PM
> Subject: feeling pretty disgusted with Apple at the moment
>
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> For the benefit of anyone else who may be trying to get the promised
>> discount on SL ...
>>
>> I've just spent 2 hours online, trying to preorder at the $10 price.
>> I have been unable to get anything but the $29 price.  Right on
>> Apple's site, they say you can also purchase via telephone by calling
>> 1800-myapple.  But, when you call them, they are utterly worthless.
>> They tell you they cannot take orders, and that you must purchase
>> online, or fax them a copy of your order.  When I asked to speak to a
>> supervisor, I was told that that was not an option.  Finally, I  
>> called
>> my local store, to see if they could help.  Fortunately, they're very
>> nice folks, and the manager agreed to let me come in and pick it up  
>> in
>> the store on Friday for the $10 price.  However, I should never have
>> had to work so hard to give Apple my money, even if it is just $10,
>> especially given the high degree of user/customerfriendliness on  
>> which
>> Apple prides itself.
>>
>> So, yes, there is a purpose to this message other than my rant.  If
>> you are a new user, and want to get the $10 price, my suggestion  
>> would
>> be to just skep the whole online debacle, and just contact your  
>> store.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>>
>>>
>
>
> >
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Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion

[a radix]

Hello, 32-bit snow leopard? I thought sl would only be available in 64-bit 
version?
Greetings, Anouk,
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Blouch" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion


>
> Assuming Fusion works ok under Snow Leopard, there should be no effect
> on your Windows installation. According to VMWare, Fusion 2.0.5 and
> higher is supposed to run on 32-bit Snow Leopard.
>
> http://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2009/06/vmware-fusion-205-update-now-available.html
>
> CB
>
> Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anyone know whether upgrading to Snow Leopard will mess up my
>> Windows installation with Fusion?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>> >
>>
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Re: Not seeing any of my gmail fioklders in mail.

[matthew Dyer]

On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

>
> Are you talking about Gmail mail labels? I assume you are using  
> iMap...
> Yes the lables that show up when looking at the interface.  I have  
> created them in mail.


> When you create the GMail account, there will be a entry in the
> mailbox table with the account name of the gMail account. When you
> expand this you will see all your Gmail labels as folders here.
> There is no way to expanded it it just says gmail as that is what is  
> called in mail.


> You
> should configure the specialized folders under the "gmail" sub folder
> as appropriate.  This was already done.


>  This  configuration is done by selecting the folder
> and then using the menu item Mailbox->Use_this_mailbox_as item. This
> will hide that mailbox from the folder below and make it appear under
> the Inbox, Trash, Junk, Sent or Drafts folders.
> Agaiin the gmail account only shows that the toop level.  how ever  
> the sent messages trash exc show up under the gmail account.  If  
> expanding this it shows that folder for each account.  I don't even  
> see my own lables I created.
> Some suggestions I have gleaned:
> 1. Do not save drafts on the server as gmail has a tendency to save
> multiple copies.
> 2. Consider carefully what you do with the "SPAM" gmail folder. Gmail
> has its own very good spam filtering abilities, and if you have Apple
> Mail push items to the Spam folder, automatically, then GMail
> automatically reports these messages as spam. So if Apple Mail gets
> something wrong here, it could cause headaches for people that are
> sending you e-mail.

I have junk mail filtering off in mail.
> 3. If you have gmail accepting multiple from addresses, including them
> in the mail setup as a comma separated list is a good idea as this
> will allow you to send out via GMail.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:07 AM, matthew dyer wrote:
>
>>
>> Good morning all,  I went and created folders as well as filter-as  
>> for
>> some of the messages I am getting.  The problem is that in mail I do
>> not see them in the mail boxes table.  If I go to move a message to
>> one of thoughes mail boxes they show up but not in the mailboxes
>> table.  Is there anything I need to do in mail tio fix this>?   
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> You can lead a heart to love, but you can't make it fall.
>>
>> MSN/e-mail:  ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
>> AIM:  mattdy1
>> skype: graduater2004.
>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet

[a radix]

Hello, I am planning to do that yes, i just find it very strange that I cannot 
use internet at this moment.
I will call my internet provider to see if i need to enter any information. I 
know i did have to do that in the past but my internet provider has changed (it 
has been taken over by another) and as i said i did not enter anything into 
this computer (the pc i am using now) and it still works.
Greetings, Anouk,
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maxwell Ivey Jr. 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:34 PM
  Subject: Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet


  Hello;  why don't you just purchase a wireless router?  You plug it into your 
cable system, and then you could take your laptop anywhere in the house.  They 
are very cheap and relatively easy to install here.  glad to hear we have 
another mac user in the fold.  have fun with it, Max 

  On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:07 AM, a radix wrote:


Hello, my macbook pro arrived this morning via ups I must say its quick, i 
ordered 8 days ago via bank transfer and a custom configuration.
Everything works fine although i get lost in a few dialogs.
I cant connect to the internet htough. I use a cable modem and udner 
windows i can just push in the network cable and I am ready to go. Not so now 
htough.
Any idea of what routers work best with the mac? I was thinking of getting 
a linksis pre-n router, will that work?
If i just configure the touter right and it works on the pc should i also 
just be able to plug it into the mac for it to work?
Greetings, Anouk,


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Re: cut and paste

[Chris Blouch]

Well, it doesn't fit the zxcv model but you can just do command delete 
to move a file to the trash. If that's a bit difficult you can use the 
Keyboard Shortcuts tab of the Keyboard and Mouse System Preferences to 
map Command-X to Move to Trash. Not exactly the behavior you described, 
but closer.

CB

Donna Goodin wrote:
> I agree with Anna, here.  It's really annoying to have to copy and paste 
> files, and then have to go back to the original and delete it.  Cut and paste 
> is much more efficient, and I'd sacrifice the danger factor.  It just means 
> you have to be a bit more careful.
> Donna
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Blouch 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:12 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: cut and paste
>
>
> I thought you could already copy and paste files. I'm not sure I would 
> want cut equated to delete since that's a rather dangerous thing to do 
> and I might hit cut when I meant copy. At least I do that with text all 
> the time and have to undo.
>
> CB
>
> Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> The Pathfinder discussion made me think of this question. Does anyone  
>> know whether Snow Leopard will allow cut and paste of files and of  
>> things like items in playlists? I sure hope so.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>> 
>>   
>> 
>
>
>
>
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RE: Mac Box Set

[Larry Wanger]

How about Numbers and Pages? Those are the real apps I'd use.



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Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac Box Set


Hi,

I've used Pages just a bit. It seems to be mostly accessible, though a  
few controls don't speak. I could select Blank Document from the list  
of templates, and  the items on the menu speak. I haven't tried to do  
anything complicated, though. Commands like moving to the next bold  
text don't work, but I've heard that's supposed to be better in Snow  
Leopard.

Best,
Anna





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Re: program to split a 6 gig dmg in to 2 dvds?

[Chris Blouch]

If this is an installer, I don't think you can split it. DMG files get 
mounted up as disk drives and so the installer can and will seek for 
files all over the virtual disk. There is no requirement that they pull 
in all the files from one and then move to the rest. There are lots of 
ways to split a file in pieces, but you'll have to combine them together 
before you can use it. If they are just data files then there is no need 
for the DMG. Beyond that you would need to have intimate knowledge of 
which files are needed when and make a custom installer, probably beyond 
the scope of work you wanted to tackle.

CB

hank smith wrote:
> hello I have a 6 gig dmg
> this is a bootable disk
> need to split this in to 2 dvds have it ask me to hit enter when 
> second disk is inserted
> what program will do this?
>  
> Hank
>
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Quick Question

[Tiffany D]

Hi there,

If anyone here has ever used Enhanced DR-DOS, or knows someone blind
who has, could you please email me at magkis...@gmail.com?  I've got
some questions and don't want to clutter the list with them.

Thanks,
Eleni

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Re: New Os or not?

[Chris Blouch]

They did on OSX 10.5. There was an option to install Leopard and then 
pull in user files from a time machine backup. I don't see why they 
wouldn't continue to support that feature.

CB

kaare dehard wrote:
> I wonder if they have or will have a restore from time machine backup  
> option? If so, would it restore all stuff that you need from a leopard  
> backup as well as upgrading to snow-leopard?
>
> On 25-Aug-09, at 9:13 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>
>   
>> The menu option isn't there, but the way I plan to do it is, boot from
>> the dvd, go to utilities and choose disk utility, erase the drive,
>> then install the new operating system. Of course, before I do this, I
>> will do a complete backup to my external hard drive, and I already
>> have backups of my license keys for programs I have purchased.
>> On Aug 25, 2009, at 4:35 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Well lets clear up one item here.  The erase and install option will
>>> not be available in the menu as it is now.  This was do to customers
>>> choosing the wrong option and trashing all their data.  Erase and
>>> install literally means just that and whatever anyone does, backing  
>>> up
>>> your data is absolutely critical regardless of how good the os is.
>>> Anything could happen and loosing your data is not worth taking the
>>> time to perform this critical step.  This is where Time Machine  
>>> really
>>> does shine and yeah, I've been there several times and I have  
>>> suffered
>>> through significant data loss, but well that was do to a drive  
>>> failure
>>> and the backup tape drive failing. :)
>>> On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:57 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 You can choose to completely erase your drive before installing.
 Unlike Microsoft which insists on complicating things by having
 completely separate disks for upgrades or full installs, as far as I
 know, apple's operating system disks are all the same.
 On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Mike wrote:

 
> Hi all:
>
> I'm going to get Snow Leopard but I have a concern.
> Is it an Upgrade which has to be installed over a previous version
> of
> Leopard or can it be ran as a complete fresh install.
> I don't like the idea of installing another OS over another. It can
> be
> problematic and that sounds vary much like another companies 98
> platforms.
> Also, can VO be ran from the install like OSX-10.5?  When I
> re_installed 10.5 a few months back to try and lick my iTunes  
> issue,
> when the machine rebooted, just pressed command F-5 and I was off
> and
> listening. LOL
>
> Thanks:
> Mike
>
>
>
>   
 
>>>   
>> 
>
>
> >
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Re: Accessibility of FireFox

[william lomas]

they are working on a mac version for voice over I think

On 26 Aug 2009, at 17:35, Rafael Bejarano wrote:

>
> Hello all,
>
> Do any of you know if FireFox is accessible on the Mac?
>
> Rafael Bejarano
>
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iworks vs neoofficeRe: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?

[a radix]

Hello, i just read an article on wikipedia about neooffice. It is apparently 
a fork of openoffice optimalized for the mac. I will try it as soon as I get 
internet working correctly, it seems very interesting.
I guess iworks is accessible too, it isnt too expensive. I need an office 
suite that is very much compatible with microsoft office (although i am not 
willing to buy that) for our school when you submit essays online they go 
through a program that prevents plagiatism but htat needs a certain document 
format.
Greetings, Anouk,
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?


>
> As I Understood it, Neooffice was the new name given the project, it
> was Open Office and before that it was Star Office .
>
>
> On 27/08/2009, at 1:12 AM, a radix wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello oh, strange that there are two names for it then, neooffice and
>> openoffice.
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Yep, its actually Open Office and I use it here all the time, some of
>>> the ways the programme presents itself take a little getting used to
>>> though.
>>>
>>> I use the Word Processor mainly and I've had a brief look at the
>>> Spreadsheet, looks okay.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> a radix wrote:
 Hello, I am reading through a swithc-to-the-mac kind of site and
 they
 recommend neooffice for office applications. I had never heard of
 this
 package before and I wondered if anyone has used it and if it is
 accessible?
 Greetings, Anouk,

>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
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>>> From Melton Victoria Australia
>>> mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net
>>> Phone United Kingdom
>>> 02032874641
>>> Phone Australia
>>> :0390058589
>>> Phone United States
>>> :8159261869
>>> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954
>>> Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201
>>> MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net
>>> skype:grtdane12
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>>> blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> >
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Re: flac files on the mac

[Chris Blouch]

At the same time, after you have the plugins you should be able to tag 
all your files in bulk. It just puts an osx fingerprint on them to make 
iTunes happy. No real user interaction needed.

CB

a radix wrote:
> Well, i wont use itunes for flacs then, i guess i will have to go 
> search for a different main player. I will try switch and vlc
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Chris Blouch 
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:29 PM
> *Subject:* Re: flac files on the mac
>
> This was covered previously. You have to install some plugins and
> then cheap by tagging the flacs as being oggs to get iTunes to
> pull them in.
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg04677.html
>
> CB
>
> a radix wrote:
>> Hello, while I cannot yet use internet, i can use my braille
>> display and my external hd. All my music files are in flac, is
>> there a program on the mac that can play them or, but rather not,
>> convert them to apple lossless?
>> Thanks,
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>
>>
>
>
> >

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my internet problems

[a radix]

Oh yes I forgot to mention in my original post, i can make contact with my 
internet modem, i can see its status and the signal strength. I just cant 
connect to the internet.
Greetings, Anouk,
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Seeking VoiceOver users to test Infovox iVox voices in foreign languages

[David Niemeijer]

Hi,

As you may have read we will release Infovox iVox 2.0 for Snow Leopard  
compatibility as public beta later this week. Not all languages will  
be available at once as we do want to make sure that each language  
receives basic testing before it is made available as part of the  
public beta. If there are major issues with a particular language we  
would like those issues to be discovered before the language is put in  
public beta so that it will not affect a large number of users.

If you are interested in contributing to these "private" tests please  
contact me off-list. We need at most 2 testers per language (on first  
come-first serve basis). There is no remuneration for this testing. We  
expect you to do serious stress testing of the voices with VoiceOver.  
We are looking for people who already own an Infovox iVox license  
(i.e. know the product well), who know the Mac and VoiceOver well, who  
read and write English well and who enjoy testing new things. Only for  
Arabic, which is a completely new language with iVox 2.0 you do not  
need to already own an iVox license. Finally, we need feedback within  
24-48 hours of you receiving access to the voices.

Testing should take place on Leopard and if you have access to it also  
on Snow Leopard.

To express your interest send an email to supp...@assistiveware.com  
with the subject "iVox 2 testing" and in the contents mention at the  
very least the language(s) you want to test, your current Infovox iVox  
activation code(s), your mother tongue, the Mac OS X versions you plan  
to test on and your computer model.

We are looking for two testers for each of the following languages:
American Spanish
Canadian French
French
German
Italian
Dutch
Flemish
Spanish
Portuguese
Brazilian Portuguese
Danish
Norwegian
Finnish
Swedish
Arabic
Turkish
Czech
Greek
Russian
Polish

Final note, I may not be able to get back to you immediately as we  
will first focus on the most used languages and then move to the less  
common languages.

Thanks,

david.

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Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet

[a radix]

Hello, thanks for that help, i have not reset my modem yet because i did not 
htink that could be the problem (i tried the modem with my other laptop in the 
past and that worked fine) it is now set to hdcp in the window so I am not sure 
if thats alright because i thought htis was used for routers.
I will start up my mac again in a few moments and see if it works.
Greetings, Anouk,
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan C. Cohn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:20 PM
  Subject: Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet


  There is a network setup dialog which I (though I am an Internet engineer) 
found very easy to use.  Generally if you are connecting directly to a DSL 
modem then you just need to enable PPPOE. If you are connecting to a cable 
modem, then the problem is probably that your modem is locked on your old 
computer's ethernet card. Take the power off and then on  for modem and see if 
that solves the problem.
  You can reach me at oncohnfairfax on skype for more help.
  Jon


  On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:07 AM, a radix wrote:


Hello, my macbook pro arrived this morning via ups I must say its quick, i 
ordered 8 days ago via bank transfer and a custom configuration.
Everything works fine although i get lost in a few dialogs.
I cant connect to the internet htough. I use a cable modem and udner 
windows i can just push in the network cable and I am ready to go. Not so now 
htough.
Any idea of what routers work best with the mac? I was thinking of getting 
a linksis pre-n router, will that work?
If i just configure the touter right and it works on the pc should i also 
just be able to plug it into the mac for it to work?
Greetings, Anouk,







  

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Re: flac files on the mac

[a radix]

Well, i wont use itunes for flacs then, i guess i will have to go search for a 
different main player. I will try switch and vlc
Greetings, Anouk,
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Blouch 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:29 PM
  Subject: Re: flac files on the mac


  This was covered previously. You have to install some plugins and then cheap 
by tagging the flacs as being oggs to get iTunes to pull them in.

  http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg04677.html

  CB

  a radix wrote: 
Hello, while I cannot yet use internet, i can use my braille display and my 
external hd. All my music files are in flac, is there a program on the mac that 
can play them or, but rather not, convert them to apple lossless?
Thanks,
Greetings, Anouk,




  

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Re: Accessibility of FireFox

[Chris Blouch]

Not yet. Supposed to be in the works for a future version but I haven't 
been able to dig up any news.

CB

Rafael Bejarano wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Do any of you know if FireFox is accessible on the Mac?
>
> Rafael Bejarano
>
> >
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Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet

[a radix]

I have only a cable modem, it is not even a real router (it has no internal 
firewall for example) although i use it for phone and internet.
Greetings, Anouk,
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Blouch 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:42 PM
  Subject: Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet


  Strange. The Macs and PCs use the same DHCP protocols to get an address. Is 
this going right from the router to the Mac or do you have a 
firewall/NAT/wireless thing inbetween. If it is direct then sometime the cable 
modem reads the hardware address of your computer and needs a full power cycle 
to let go and read a new one.

  CB

  a radix wrote: 
Hello, my macbook pro arrived this morning via ups I must say its quick, i 
ordered 8 days ago via bank transfer and a custom configuration.
Everything works fine although i get lost in a few dialogs.
I cant connect to the internet htough. I use a cable modem and udner 
windows i can just push in the network cable and I am ready to go. Not so now 
htough.
Any idea of what routers work best with the mac? I was thinking of getting 
a linksis pre-n router, will that work?
If i just configure the touter right and it works on the pc should i also 
just be able to plug it into the mac for it to work?
Greetings, Anouk,




  

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Re: Not seeing any of my gmail fioklders in mail.

[matthew dyer]

Hi,  I read the artical.  The only problem I see is that I do not see
the expander triangal that he sppoke of in the artical.  How do I find
this in vo.

Matthew

On 8/26/09, Esther  wrote:
>
> Hello John and Matthew,
>
> This has been posted to the list before (by Jonathan?), but there is a
> TidBITS article by the author of the "Take Control of Apple Mail in
> Leopard" guide that explains the way that Gmail works.  It's called
> "Achieving Email Bliss with IMAP, Gmail, and Apple Mail" and can be
> found at:
>
> http://db.tidbits.com/article/10253
>
> One of the features of the Gmail "flavor" of using IMAP, is that Gmail
> doesn't use different mailboxes or folders per se -- instead, it
> assigns multiple tags or labels.  The problem of getting labels-as-
> mailboxes to sync locally and also to archive mail is described in
> detail in this rather long article.  This is also behind the issue of
> why messages you post to the list don't show up in a list mailbox.
> There's a final section on "How to Configure Everything for Maximum
> Happiness" if you want to skip past all the explanations.  This
> describes the way the author has set up his own Gmail account.  There
> are other described setups and explanations floating around the net.
> For example, there is this article from the ExpanDrive blog titled
> "Setup Gmail IMAP, Mail.app, and the iPhone with Archive":
>
> http://blog.expandrive.com/2008/11/17/setup-gmail-imap-mailapp-and-the-iphone-with-archive/
>
> The salient feature of this set up is that everything the author
> "deletes" locally gets archived forever on Gmail.  (I'm pretty sure
> that most of you don't want to set up your accounts that way).  Here's
> his description:
> 
> I’m going to explain how to setup Gmail to work the right way with
> Mail.app and the iPhone. “Right”, of course, means “the way I want it
> to work.” In particular, this means that I want “deleting” something
> in my client to make it “archived” in Gmail for eternity. I almost
> never want an email to be deleted forever. I also want Sent Messages
> and Drafts to work in a reasonable way, but delete -> archive is the
> big one for me.
> 
> One of the tricky items of this article is that the author includes
> a .png graphic of his settings, however, if you read the text, he is
> using all the same settings that are recommended by Gmail in the link
> he gives, except for changing their "Sent" mail option to store sent
> mail on the server and never delete it.  Similarly, for the iPhone
> setup in the Advanced menu for his selected mail account, he is
> changing the settings to keep deleted mail on his iPhone and never
> remove them.
>
> Both these articles, their links, and the comments that follow them
> made for interesting reading, but I would stick to Joe Kissell's
> TidBITS article if you want to "achieve Email bliss".  And if you want
> to read the TidBITS Talk discussion comments here's the link that
> comes up so that you don't have to run a search on their site:
>
> http://emperor.tidbits.com/TidBITS/Talk/2639
>
> Note that the TidBITS Talk page only shows the most recent posts on
> this fairly active thread for comments.  If you want to start reading
> comments from the beginning, look for the "All Messages" link, and VO-
> Space on that.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> This was also interesting to read, and
>
> On Aug 26, 2009, John JD Denning wrote:
>
>>
>> Interesting, I have the reverse. I see folders I didn't create and
>> would rather not have. I just created my gmail account recently. I'm
>> used to IMAP with my mobileme acct and Outlook at work. But Gmail
>> seems to have a mind of it's own.
>>
>> I have two folders that I can see, nothing new shows in them until I
>> select them, then they populate. Things get sent to the SPAM folder
>> and there is no rime or reason, and no filter that I can find doing
>> it.
>>
>> I post to this list, it doesn't show up in the list mailbox I have. It
>> does show up in All Mail, and sent. OK I see why it shows up in sent,
>> but it should also show as an incoming email on the group.
>>
>> Guess I have to read more of the help files, is there one titled,
>> "black art of Gmail."
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2009, at matthew dyer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Good morning all,  I went and created folders as well as filteras for
>>> some of the messages I am getting.  The problem is that in mail I do
>>> not see them in the mail boxes tabole.  If I go to move a message to
>>> one of thoughes mail boxes they show up but not in the mailboxes
>>> table.  Is there anything I need to do in mail tio fix this>?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> You can lead a heart to love, but you can't make it fall.
>>>
>>> MSN/e-mail:  ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
>>> AIM:  mattdy1
>>> skype: graduater2004.
>>>

>>
>>
>> >
>
>
> >
>


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Re: Not seeing any of my gmail fioklders in mail.

[matthew Dyer]

Hey whare I am having the problem is that the gmail account can not  
bee expanded to show any of the folder or lables.

Matthew

On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:51 AM, John JD Denning wrote:

>
> Interesting, I have the reverse. I see folders I didn't create and
> would rather not have. I just created my gmail account recently. I'm
> used to IMAP with my mobileme acct and Outlook at work. But Gmail
> seems to have a mind of it's own.
>
> I have two folders that I can see, nothing new shows in them until I
> select them, then they populate. Things get sent to the SPAM folder
> and there is no rime or reason, and no filter that I can find doing  
> it.
>
> I post to this list, it doesn't show up in the list mailbox I have. It
> does show up in All Mail, and sent. OK I see why it shows up in sent,
> but it should also show as an incoming email on the group.
>
> Guess I have to read more of the help files, is there one titled,
> "black art of Gmail."
>
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:07 AM, matthew dyer wrote:
>
>>
>> Good morning all,  I went and created folders as well as filteras for
>> some of the messages I am getting.  The problem is that in mail I do
>> not see them in the mail boxes tabole.  If I go to move a message to
>> one of thoughes mail boxes they show up but not in the mailboxes
>> table.  Is there anything I need to do in mail tio fix this>?   
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> You can lead a heart to love, but you can't make it fall.
>>
>> MSN/e-mail:  ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
>> AIM:  mattdy1
>> skype: graduater2004.
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

Hello;  why don't you just purchase a wireless router?  You plug it  
into your cable system, and then you could take your laptop anywhere  
in the house.  They are very cheap and relatively easy to install  
here.  glad to hear we have another mac user in the fold.  have fun  
with it, Max
On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:07 AM, a radix wrote:

> Hello, my macbook pro arrived this morning via ups I must say its  
> quick, i ordered 8 days ago via bank transfer and a custom  
> configuration.
> Everything works fine although i get lost in a few dialogs.
> I cant connect to the internet htough. I use a cable modem and udner  
> windows i can just push in the network cable and I am ready to go.  
> Not so now htough.
> Any idea of what routers work best with the mac? I was thinking of  
> getting a linksis pre-n router, will that work?
> If i just configure the touter right and it works on the pc should i  
> also just be able to plug it into the mac for it to work?
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
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Re: firefox

[James & Nash]

Thanks much appreciated
- Original Message - 
From: "Moi Lejter" 
To: "MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: firefox



As I recall, we did not try to combine VO with Firefox (and the
FireVox extension).  IIRC, FireVox on its own was able to
read content shown on the Firefox window aloud, which was
what we were looking for at the time.  I don't remember whether
we ran into any other issues when trying it out, though - but
I will try to install it again, and play with it a bit, then report
back.

Moises

On Aug 26, 12:59 pm, Rafael Bejarano  wrote:
> Aside from the language-switching problem, did you find FireFox
> accessible with VO?
>
> Rafael
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Moi Lejter wrote:
>
>
>
> > Speaking of voice support for Firefox - there is an extension to
> > Firefox that supports something like VoiceOver. The extension
> > is called FireVox, and it is available here:
> >http://firevox.clcworld.net/
>
> > When we took a look at it, the deal breaker for us was that
> > it could not switch voices on the fly, and we needed to be able
> > to switch from English to Spanish voices, without logging out
> > and back in...
>
> > Moises


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IWork - can applications be installed separately

[James & Nash]

Hi folks,

Can the suite of applications that comes with IWork be installed separately, 
or does the isntaller include them all by default?

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Take care

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Re: firefox

[Rafael Bejarano]

Aside from the language-switching problem, did you find FireFox  
accessible with VO?

Rafael
On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Moi Lejter wrote:

>
> Speaking of voice support for Firefox - there is an extension to
> Firefox that supports something like VoiceOver.  The extension
> is called FireVox, and it is available here:
> http://firevox.clcworld.net/
>
> When we took a look at it, the deal breaker for us was that
> it could not switch voices on the fly, and we needed to be able
> to switch from English to Spanish voices, without logging out
> and back in...
>
> Moises
>
> >


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Re: has anyone tried neooffice with vo?

[Chris Blouch]

Hmmm. I thought NeoOffice and OpenOffice were different products. 
Originally OpenOffice used X11 (a  unix windowing system) and NeoOffice 
used Java to do the UI from the OpenOffice base code. More recently 
openOffice came out with an Aqua version which uses native UI APIs 
instead of X11. Here is one comparison site:

http://neowiki.neooffice.org/index.php/NeoOffice_Feature_Comparison

In their table for support of Mac OSX accessibility framework they have 
a red x which implies that voiceover support isn't there.

CB

Ben King wrote:
> Dear Anouk,
>
> Welcome to Apple Land.  On the previous podcast of the Mac Review 
> Cast, they spoke about Neooffice.  It sounds interesting.  I do not 
> know if it is accessible with Voiceover.  Good Luck.  Have a wonderful 
> day.
> Blessings,
> Ben King
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:17 AM, a radix wrote:
>
>> Hello, I am reading through a swithc-to-the-mac kind of site and they 
>> recommend neooffice for office applications. I had never heard of 
>> this package before and I wondered if anyone has used it and if it is 
>> accessible?
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> >

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Re: firefox

[Moi Lejter]

As I recall, we did not try to combine VO with Firefox (and the
FireVox extension).  IIRC, FireVox on its own was able to
read content shown on the Firefox window aloud, which was
what we were looking for at the time.  I don't remember whether
we ran into any other issues when trying it out, though - but
I will try to install it again, and play with it a bit, then report
back.

Moises

On Aug 26, 12:59 pm, Rafael Bejarano  wrote:
> Aside from the language-switching problem, did you find FireFox  
> accessible with VO?
>
> Rafael
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Moi Lejter wrote:
>
>
>
> > Speaking of voice support for Firefox - there is an extension to
> > Firefox that supports something like VoiceOver.  The extension
> > is called FireVox, and it is available here:
> >http://firevox.clcworld.net/
>
> > When we took a look at it, the deal breaker for us was that
> > it could not switch voices on the fly, and we needed to be able
> > to switch from English to Spanish voices, without logging out
> > and back in...
>
> > Moises
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Re: Snow Leopard and Fusion

[Chris Blouch]

Assuming Fusion works ok under Snow Leopard, there should be no effect 
on your Windows installation. According to VMWare, Fusion 2.0.5 and 
higher is supposed to run on 32-bit Snow Leopard.

http://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2009/06/vmware-fusion-205-update-now-available.html

CB

Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know whether upgrading to Snow Leopard will mess up my  
> Windows installation with Fusion?
>
> Thanks,
> Anna
>
>
> >
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Re: my macbook pro is here, problems with internet

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Strange. The Macs and PCs use the same DHCP protocols to get an address. 
Is this going right from the router to the Mac or do you have a 
firewall/NAT/wireless thing inbetween. If it is direct then sometime the 
cable modem reads the hardware address of your computer and needs a full 
power cycle to let go and read a new one.

CB

a radix wrote:
> Hello, my macbook pro arrived this morning via ups I must say its 
> quick, i ordered 8 days ago via bank transfer and a custom configuration.
> Everything works fine although i get lost in a few dialogs.
> I cant connect to the internet htough. I use a cable modem and udner 
> windows i can just push in the network cable and I am ready to go. Not 
> so now htough.
> Any idea of what routers work best with the mac? I was thinking of 
> getting a linksis pre-n router, will that work?
> If i just configure the touter right and it works on the pc should i 
> also just be able to plug it into the mac for it to work?
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
> >

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Re: flac files on the mac

[Chris Blouch]

This was covered previously. You have to install some plugins and then 
cheap by tagging the flacs as being oggs to get iTunes to pull them in.

http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg04677.html

CB

a radix wrote:
> Hello, while I cannot yet use internet, i can use my braille display 
> and my external hd. All my music files are in flac, is there a program 
> on the mac that can play them or, but rather not, convert them to 
> apple lossless?
> Thanks,
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
> >

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Re: firefox

[James & Nash]

You don't necessarily need the Firerevox plugin on either Widnows Or Linux, 
but it's great that it exists. I'm not a programmer so wouldn't have the 
first clue about how to add something.
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Hofstader" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: firefox


>
> You know, when it comes to FireVox you have the source code so you
> could have added the feature you wanted, shared your work with the
> community and solved your problem all in one action.
>
> Also, Chen, author of FireVox, works at Google and is real nice about
> adding features and other stuff to the plug-in.
>
> I don't know how well FV works on a Mac but Windows and GNU/Linux
> systems are pretty nice.
>
> cdh
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Moi Lejter wrote:
>
>>
>> Speaking of voice support for Firefox - there is an extension to
>> Firefox that supports something like VoiceOver.  The extension
>> is called FireVox, and it is available here:
>> http://firevox.clcworld.net/
>>
>> When we took a look at it, the deal breaker for us was that
>> it could not switch voices on the fly, and we needed to be able
>> to switch from English to Spanish voices, without logging out
>> and back in...
>>
>> Moises
>>
>> >
>
>
> > 


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RE: VO, drag and drop with ITunes.

[Donal Fitzpatrick]

Hi Barry,

thanks a lot this is what I've been doing.  However, I've tried to highlight
multiple items using vo then drag them across.  Doesn't seem to work.

Dónal 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Hadder
Sent: 26 August 2009 16:21
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO, drag and drop with ITunes.


To drag and drop, first put the vo cursor on the item you want to drag.  You
will know if it is high-lited when you here the click sound.  That tells you
that keyboard focus is tracking vo.
Route the mouse to vo with vo-cmd-f5.
Lock the mouse with vo-shft-cmd-space.
Move vo where you want to drop and rout the mouse to vo.
Press vo-shft-cmd-space to unlock the mouse.

I've found drag and drop with vo to be very problematic.  It seems that that
routing the mouse to vo often doesn't place it in just the write place when
dropping and the drop doesn't occur.  I usually can turn mouse keys on by
pressing the option five times and moving the mouse a few positions.


On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a lot of files I want to add to an ITunes library.  Purely for 
> experimental purposes, I tried to use drag-and-drop with VO to do 
> this.
> However the files don't seem to be coming across.
>
> Could anyone think of any reasons why this should be the case?  For 
> example, if someone could assist me in determining whether the files 
> are highlighted and selected in the first place it would be great.  
> Also, is there anywhere specific I should "drop" the files in the 
> ITunes window?
>
> I can of course do this using the "add to library" menu option, but 
> I'd like to learn this technique.
>
> thanks,
>
> Dónal
>
>
> >





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Re: RNIB streaming service?

[william lomas]

i don't think that work as I think it has to use their specific player

On 26 Aug 2009, at 16:53, Moi Lejter wrote:

>
> I don't know if this will work, as this RNIB streaming book service
> says it is only available within the UK - but I found a DAISY
> reader application for MacOSX, called Olearia, here:
>
> http://www.cucat.org/projects/olearia/
>
> It is still a beta product...
>
> Moises
>
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Re: firefox

[James & Nash]

That's a shame as I read a lot of French news articles. I wondder if it has 
changed recently. However, if that is the only downside to using FF then 
perhaps I'll give it a go.

Thank you for reminding me of this.

Take care

james
- Original Message - 
From: "Moi Lejter" 
To: "MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: firefox


>
> Speaking of voice support for Firefox - there is an extension to
> Firefox that supports something like VoiceOver.  The extension
> is called FireVox, and it is available here:
> http://firevox.clcworld.net/
>
> When we took a look at it, the deal breaker for us was that
> it could not switch voices on the fly, and we needed to be able
> to switch from English to Spanish voices, without logging out
> and back in...
>
> Moises
>
> > 


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Re: feeling pretty disgusted with Apple at the moment

[James & Nash]

I'm sorry for your difficulties. When I purchased my new MacBook today, I 
had no difficulties. In fact, they could not ahve been kinder. They gave me 
a considerable discount on the price of my mac especially considering I 
asked for an upgrade on the HD. I assume I get SL with the laptop next 
Friday.

Take care

James
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From: "Donna Goodin" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:11 PM
Subject: feeling pretty disgusted with Apple at the moment


>
> Hi all,
>
> For the benefit of anyone else who may be trying to get the promised
> discount on SL ...
>
> I've just spent 2 hours online, trying to preorder at the $10 price.
> I have been unable to get anything but the $29 price.  Right on
> Apple's site, they say you can also purchase via telephone by calling
> 1800-myapple.  But, when you call them, they are utterly worthless.
> They tell you they cannot take orders, and that you must purchase
> online, or fax them a copy of your order.  When I asked to speak to a
> supervisor, I was told that that was not an option.  Finally, I called
> my local store, to see if they could help.  Fortunately, they're very
> nice folks, and the manager agreed to let me come in and pick it up in
> the store on Friday for the $10 price.  However, I should never have
> had to work so hard to give Apple my money, even if it is just $10,
> especially given the high degree of user/customerfriendliness on which
> Apple prides itself.
>
> So, yes, there is a purpose to this message other than my rant.  If
> you are a new user, and want to get the $10 price, my suggestion would
> be to just skep the whole online debacle, and just contact your store.
> Best,
> Donna
>
> > 


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Re: feeling pretty disgusted with Apple at the moment

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Esther,

Yeah, I was.  And I didn't even see a place to fill in my serial number.
Thanks,
Donna
On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Esther wrote:

>
> Hi Donna,
>
> Were you trying to make your purchase through the Mac OS X Snow
> Leopard Up-to-Date page?
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/
>
> If you use that page (or just Google on Snow Leopard uptodate or Snow
> Leopard update) you should be able to fill in the information on
> line.  You need to supply the serial number and date of purchase of
> your machine.  The link brings up a window telling you how to find the
> serial number from the "About this Mac" entry on the Apple Menu.  When
> they tell you to "Double-click" the version text for the operating
> system, use VO-Shift-Space by holding down Control-Option-Shift keys
> and tapping space twice quickly. You may have to move off and on this
> field to hear it updated. Then use VO-Shift-C to copy the serial
> number information to pasteboard, and Command-V to paste it.  Use
> TextEdit as an intermediate step, so you can strip off the announced
> "Serial Number" prefix before inserting serial number into the form.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> On Aug 26, 2009, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> For the benefit of anyone else who may be trying to get the promised
>> discount on SL ...
>>
>> I've just spent 2 hours online, trying to preorder at the $10 price.
>> I have been unable to get anything but the $29 price.  Right on
>> Apple's site, they say you can also purchase via telephone by calling
>> 1800-myapple.  But, when you call them, they are utterly worthless.
>> They tell you they cannot take orders, and that you must purchase
>> online, or fax them a copy of your order.  When I asked to speak to a
>> supervisor, I was told that that was not an option.  Finally, I  
>> called
>> my local store, to see if they could help.  Fortunately, they're very
>> nice folks, and the manager agreed to let me come in and pick it up  
>> in
>> the store on Friday for the $10 price.  However, I should never have
>> had to work so hard to give Apple my money, even if it is just $10,
>> especially given the high degree of user/customerfriendliness on  
>> which
>> Apple prides itself.
>>
>> So, yes, there is a purpose to this message other than my rant.  If
>> you are a new user, and want to get the $10 price, my suggestion  
>> would
>> be to just skep the whole online debacle, and just contact your  
>> store.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>>
>>>
>
>
> >
>


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Re: preordering SL at $10 price?

[Donna Goodin]

Oh, Chris, that's awful! I'm so sorry!  It's so frustrating when stuff  
like that happens. :)
Donna

On Aug 26, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Chris G wrote:

>
> It does, and i missed mine by 3 days.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:06:51 -0400
> Donna Goodin  wrote:
>
>> Mark,
>>
>> I believe the $10 offer only applies to Macs purchased after June 8.
>> Donna
>>
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:26 AM, M AUSTEN wrote:
>>
>>> I purchased my iMac on the 14th May and have just paid £25 for the
>>> SL upgrade. Thats the cheapest I've seen it in the UKL
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 26/8/09, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Donna Goodin 
>>> Subject: preordering SL at $10 price?
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009, 3:24 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Has anyone successfully ordered SL and been able to purchase it at  
>>> the
>>> $10 price for those of us who purchase our Macvs this summer?  I  
>>> have
>>> been trying for the past hour, and when I get to the verify order
>>> screen, the $29 price still shows up.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> -- 
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>
>
> >
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Re: preordering SL at $10 price?

[Chris G]

It does, and i missed mine by 3 days.



On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:06:51 -0400
Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Mark,
> 
> I believe the $10 offer only applies to Macs purchased after June 8.
> Donna
> 
> 
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:26 AM, M AUSTEN wrote:
> 
> > I purchased my iMac on the 14th May and have just paid £25 for the  
> > SL upgrade. Thats the cheapest I've seen it in the UKL
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > --- On Wed, 26/8/09, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> >
> > From: Donna Goodin 
> > Subject: preordering SL at $10 price?
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009, 3:24 PM
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Has anyone successfully ordered SL and been able to purchase it at the
> > $10 price for those of us who purchase our Macvs this summer?  I have
> > been trying for the past hour, and when I get to the verify order
> > screen, the $29 price still shows up.
> > TIA,
> > Donna
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> 
> 
> > 


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Re: Mac Box Set

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I've used Pages just a bit. It seems to be mostly accessible, though a  
few controls don't speak. I could select Blank Document from the list  
of templates, and  the items on the menu speak. I haven't tried to do  
anything complicated, though. Commands like moving to the next bold  
text don't work, but I've heard that's supposed to be better in Snow  
Leopard.

Best,
Anna


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