Re: safari doesn't open

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi Chris,

Since this is a fresh install of the entire OS, I’d assume that it would 
default to the main apple page.  If it did, for some insane reason, keep my 
usual prefs, I have a blank page set to open as my default home page.

I’ll go and delete the plist file for Safari and see if that helps, it probably 
won’t hurt at this point..
Thanks!
Cait

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Caitlyn,
> 
> Quick question actually.  What do you have Safari normally set to open when 
> you launch it?  Like, are you going to your top sites page, a blank page, or 
> an actual web ADDRESS?  If an actual web page, which one?  Google?  Or what, 
> exactly?  I ask as I am wonderring if the page it is trying to load might be 
> crashing Safari.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Caitlyn Furness" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:27 AM
> Subject: safari doesn't open
> 
> 
> Hi,
> when I try and run safari on my 2013 macbook air, it sort of opens, but I 
> can’t do anything with it.  If I command tab into the safari window, it says 
> safari busy, but it just sits there and doesn’t fully open.
> 
> I recently had to reinstall the OS, which I did on a clean disk.
> 
> I have already repaired disk permissions and veriffied the disk, etc.
> 
> what can I do now, besides trying a fresh install again?
> 
> thanks,
> Caitlyn
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Re: time for Apple to get a new default voice

[Shawn Krasniuk]

You guys realize that Nuance bought Loquendo right? Therefore, we already have 
Loquendo voices on here. They are Alison, Kate and Susan.

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



> On Jun 16, 2015, at 6:30 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I'd love to have the loquendo voices too, even for the iPhone.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> As Jonathan mentioned a voice may not be prefered by someone but others may 
>> like it.
>> I would like for example to have espeak for mac intergrated into voiceover.
>> Or the loquendo voices which are really great.
>> This is something i have been telling apple but it might  be good to remind 
>> them.
>> /A
>>> 10 jun 2015 kl. 22:54 skrev Eileen >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I agree with you Jonathan. An official copy of Eloquence would be just fine 
>>> with me. I tried Ava and the responsiveness was sluggish in comparison to 
>>> Alex. Eventually, I needed to switch back to Alex. 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Eileen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Jonathan Mosen >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Christopher. I think it depends on the hearing loss. I've worked with 
 people for example with a hearing loss who find Alex unintelligible once 
 you go a little above the default rate, but who can have compact Daniel 
 cranked up remarkably fast.
 Personally I'd be delighted to have Eloquence on my Mac because Alex 
 mispronounces far too much for my liking. The moral of the story is the 
 more choice of TTS a screen reader company can offer, the better. Speech 
 is extremely subjective.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org 
> On 11/06/2015, at 6:28 am, christopher hallsworth 
> mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
> Might be coming next year . Seriously though, I don't ever want 
> Apple to remove Alex. He's fantastic for someone with moderately severe 
> to profound hearing loss which I have. The other voices included are 
> fine, but doesn't cut it like Alex.
>> On 10 Jun 2015, at 18:46, Shawn Krasniuk > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ray. I don't really want Apple to get rid of Alex. I lve the fact 
>> that he takes breaths and everything. I am with you on one thing though, 
>> I hope Apple considers making the Siri voices available in El Capitan. 
>> After all, you can get them for NVDA in Windows so why can't it be done 
>> on the Mac?
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent from my White MacBook
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Ray Foret Jr >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Subject line pretty much says it all.  Nothing against Alex mind you:  
>>> but, frankly, I reckon it's high time Apple adopted a new and much more 
>>> updated default voice.  The new Siri male US English voice might 
>>> perhaps be a good choice.  Here's hoping we see this one in Elcapitan.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> 
>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac,
>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>>> 
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How to Resolve Keychain Error 25320

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

The following comes to us courtesy of SimpleHelp.com

While I have not experienced this error, personally, I thought I'd post it
to the list just in case you come across it.

Mark

How to Resolve Keychain Error 25320 
Posted: 15 Jun 2015 03:00 AM PDT

This very brief tutorial will show you how to fix the error:  "Access to
this item is restricted. (-25320)" you may receive when trying to access
secure information in Keychain on your Mac. 
 
There are two solutions - one is to try and run a quick "repair" - the other
is to simply reboot. 

1.
The error typically shows itself when you try to access something secure
within your Keychain - like a password.
 
2.
The error message itself, in a very un-Mac-like fashion, is completely
cryptic with no suggestion as to what to do next. 
 
3.
Let's fix it. Select Keychain Access from the Menu Bar, and then Keychain
First Aid 

4.
First enter your password, then select Repair (skip Verify) and finally,
Start. 
 
5.
If the Keychain First Aid tool finds any errors, it will report and then fix
them. At this point, you should have no problem using Keychain again. 
If the Keychain First Aid tool does not find any errors, it will report "No
problems found" before the last line, Repair completed. Proceed with the
next step. 
 
6.
Close all open Apps (saving work when appropriate) and reboot your Mac. When
it starts again, you'll be able to access Keychain without any problems.

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Re: safari doesn't open

[Caitlyn Furness]

I’ve doen this with the force quit option.

when I try and open it again, it does the same thing, just sits there!
Very frustrating!
Cait

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Also, does it let you quit? Probably not, if it's busy. If it doesn't, use 
> option-cmd-escape to force quit Safari, then open it again. It's possible it 
> just choked on something the one time you tried to open it, and it hasn't 
> been able to close since so it can try again.
>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Shaf > > wrote:
>> 
>> Could be your plugins, how many of them have you installed recently?
>> 
>> On 6/16/2015 1:27 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> when I try and run safari on my 2013 macbook air, it sort of opens, but I 
>>> can’t do anything with it.  If I command tab into the safari window, it 
>>> says safari busy, but it just sits there and doesn’t fully open.
>>> 
>>> I recently had to reinstall the OS, which I did on a clean disk.
>>> 
>>> I have already repaired disk permissions and veriffied the disk, etc.
>>> 
>>> what can I do now, besides trying a fresh install again?
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> Caitlyn
>>> 
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Re: safari doesn't open

[Caitlyn Furness]

None.

I am working with a fresh installation of yosemite with no extras at this 
point..
Cait

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Shaf  wrote:
> 
> Could be your plugins, how many of them have you installed recently?
> 
> On 6/16/2015 1:27 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
>> Hi,
>> when I try and run safari on my 2013 macbook air, it sort of opens, but I 
>> can’t do anything with it.  If I command tab into the safari window, it says 
>> safari busy, but it just sits there and doesn’t fully open.
>> 
>> I recently had to reinstall the OS, which I did on a clean disk.
>> 
>> I have already repaired disk permissions and veriffied the disk, etc.
>> 
>> what can I do now, besides trying a fresh install again?
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Caitlyn
>> 
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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi Eileen,
 For me personally,  speaking only for myself i consider low graphics 
environments to mirror   mobile ones sometimes.
these are browsers like links, and elinks, still under development on the 
open source side, but likely needing terminal to run Mac wise.  I did not 
use a mac for my test.  I was stunned that lynx, also still under 
development, generated an access denied error.
That might explain some of the other problems as well.  If the people 
maintaining these sites are not thinking strict keyboard response, i. e. 
they are using java scripting without making sure the java scripting still 
works with a keyboard, then many access platforms will have issues.
Someone else will have to guide you on  using a low graphics browser 
within the   apple arena.

Your comment on Social security had me wondering in return.
I am rather surprised  that the organization who spearheaded the 
requirement that the Social Security Administration  must provide 
communications in various formats  are not paying attention.
SSa has changed to some ..non document thing that requires some sort of 
player software instead of the  sort of rtf and readme.txt files that were 
there before.  The cd sent is not even formatted as a data one anymore.
Someone is not keeping track of how things are implemented in the long 
run.

Long answer to your short question smiles.
Kare


On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Eileen wrote:


Hi,

I would like to ask what is meant by low graphics and how is it achieved? I 
never heard of this term and would like to check it out myself. Currently, 
there are no positions open that would match my skill set, but for the future 
it would be great to be successful in submitting an application.

Thanks.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 16, 2015, at 7:10 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Actually Jason,   your suggestion flipped a switch.
My sister has been a federal staffer for decades for the Center for disease 
control.
Anyway I popped over to the usajobs.gov site in a low graphics, but java 
friendly browser.
There is a section  labeled "for people with disabilities,"
under this section, there is a directory of the sccp  staff by department.  
these people are specifically designated to facilitate application problems in 
their respective agencies.  Christine,  I do not recall the position you are 
seeking, but perhaps this is a direct door?
Hope this helps,
Kare



On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Jason White wrote:

Christine Grassman  wrote:

Here’s a little ironic twist for you: I sent a message to both my Senators
and Representative, and one of the Senator’s email responses contains a
privacy release form link . . . which is inaccessible.


Interesting...

Perhaps you could identify and write to the section 508 coordinator of the
relevant US government department.

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Re: Apple watch voices

[Brent Harding]

I thought there was 8 gigs total, but they sort of partition it. You can 
have up to 2 gigs of music, I think a gig of photos, and I'm not sure what 
the rest really is used for. Maybe that's the app storage.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: Apple watch voices


OK, yeah, that is kind of what I had suspected.  I figured that there
probably wouldn't be enough processor power.  Not only that, but I hear the
watches only come with 2 gigs of capassity, and seeing Alex is over 800MB,
um... yeah... that could be a problem, I recken.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Apple watch voices


No. You only get the voice from switching the languages, so if you switch it
to British English, you get Daniel or Tom, whoever it is, Australian is
Karen, etc.

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Apple watch voices


I don't have an Apple Watch, nor have actually seen one in person, so
forgive me, but can you use Alex on the watch, like you can on I O S?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 

To: "Macvisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: Apple watch voices


So how does one change the voice as when I set up my watch up, I had to have
the horrible Daniel.

Thanks.

Kawal.
On 15 Jun 2015, at 22:16, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:

I don't have a watch but I wonder if the frequency range of the voices
matter? I know it takes more power/bigger speakers to reproduce bass notes
so it could be that a male Daniel voice pushes the limits more that a higher
pitched Samantha.

CB

On 6/15/15 5:09 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
Yes, Samantha is less noticeable. The other sounds on the Watch sound 
great with no distortion. It almost sounds like the other voices are at 
the lower quality but I have nothing to say this is true. They just don’t 
sound good on my particular Watch and Samantha sounds OK.


I agree that they did a nice job with the small audio on the Watch.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com




On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi Jenine and Graham,

Just by way of a counterpoint, I barely notice the distortion.  I'm using 
Samantha, so it may just be that it's less pronounced, but honestly, if 
Jenine hadn't written her message, I wouldn't have even thought about it. 
I'm betting that the distortion has more to do with the tiny speaker than 
with a problem with the voice.  I actually think Apple's done a good job 
of pumping the sound out, and some distortion, IMO is inevitable under 
the circumstances.  The other thing I'd mention is that you're listening 
to the voice for much shorter bits of language than you would on a Mac or 
an iPhone, so something that might really grate on your nerves if you're 
say reading a book, is less offensive if you are just checking the time 
or something like that, at least for me.


Just my $.02.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jun 15, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Jenine Stanley  
wrote:


Graham, Donna is corrrect. The one thing to keep in mind that I’ve found 
is that all of the voices tend to distort at the highest volume, even 
Samantha. The Karen and especially Daniel voices distort at around 75% 
volume versus the 95% at which Samantha starts to distort.


The voices need work. Don’t blame you for hating the Daniel voice. Give 
me Oliver from the Mac.

Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:03 PM, 'Graham' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Hi,

Does anyone know if it is possible to change the voice on the apple 
watch? In the uk we get that horrible daniel voice which i dispise. If 
it could be changed to the karen voice i'd likely invest.


Kind regards

Graham


Sent from my iPad

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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Eileen]

Hi,

I would like to ask what is meant by low graphics and how is it achieved? I 
never heard of this term and would like to check it out myself. Currently, 
there are no positions open that would match my skill set, but for the future 
it would be great to be successful in submitting an application. 

Thanks.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 7:10 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Actually Jason,   your suggestion flipped a switch.
> My sister has been a federal staffer for decades for the Center for disease 
> control.
> Anyway I popped over to the usajobs.gov site in a low graphics, but java 
> friendly browser.
> There is a section  labeled "for people with disabilities,"
> under this section, there is a directory of the sccp  staff by department.  
> these people are specifically designated to facilitate application problems 
> in their respective agencies.  Christine,  I do not recall the position you 
> are seeking, but perhaps this is a direct door?
> Hope this helps,
> Kare
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Jason White wrote:
>> 
>> Christine Grassman  wrote:
>>> Here’s a little ironic twist for you: I sent a message to both my Senators
>>> and Representative, and one of the Senator’s email responses contains a
>>> privacy release form link . . . which is inaccessible.
>> 
>> Interesting...
>> 
>> Perhaps you could identify and write to the section 508 coordinator of the
>> relevant US government department.
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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Eileen]

Hi Christine,

To answer your question, no. I never pursued contacting anyone. If this is an 
accessibility issue, then maybe one of the blind national organizations may 
need to be contacted. I'm wondering how many more blind or visually impaired 
individuals have attempted to apply for a Federal position only to be 
confronted with an inaccessible website to submit the application. It was 
interesting to me when I wrote my senators that Senator Finestein took the time 
to actually read what I sent her regarding Social Security, but Senator Boxer 
was a form response. Let me know who to send my concerns about this. It takes a 
village to get Washington to recognize a real problem and in my eyes 
discrimination.

Thanks.

Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Christine,
> call them.
> There is a reason in   the Liaison case.  i did not understand she was blind, 
> but deaf or a combination,   the office of public engagement helps facilitate 
> communications for Ms. Gordon.   there are some things not best for email you 
> know?
> 
> I would say the same for your representatives...especially the one with the 
> problem form.  Given anyone can send an email from anywhere, sometimes 
> putting human presence to problems makes a difference.
> As an interesting question, were you able to test things in a low graphics 
> environment?
> Kare
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Christine Grassman wrote:
>> 
>> Here’s a little ironic twist for you: I sent a message to both my Senators 
>> and Representative, and one of the Senator’s email responses contains a 
>> privacy release form link . . . which is inaccessible.
>> Meanwhile, when I tried to locate a contact form for Claudia Gordon, who is 
>> ostensibly the liaison between the President’s administration and the 
>> disability community, the only thing I could find was an offer to contact 
>> the White House, since she is the disability liaison for the White House’s 
>> Office of Public Engagement. How likely do you think it is that my message 
>> will get through that barrage of correspondence?
>> Cherie, could you please clarify what you mean by “legacy solutions”? My 
>> husband works in a federal building and sees a reasonable number of disabled 
>> employees working for the various agencies.
>> Christine
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Windows doesn't help much on USA Jobs.  The Feds dodge most real disability 
>>> accommodations in favor of legacy solutions that have not worked in the 
>>> mainstream.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 16, 2015, at 16:11, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
 
 Sounds like something to be reported directly to the President's liaison 
 for people with disabilities.  Let's face it, sometimes the fastest avenue 
 to a solution is a human who resonates with the problem.
 Kare
 
 
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, gs wrote:
> 
> I mean I hate to seem so hopeless when it comes to using the Mac with the 
> USAJOBs site, but I have not had good luck with it even when changing 
> user agents. And I know employment is a serious thing. So when there is a 
> job that closes in two days or maybe just a few hours and you are trying 
> to find a reliable method to complete the application process, the last 
> thing you want are these kinds of issues. So for those times, use Windows 
> at this point. We need to probably try to work together to get these 
> issues resolved for the future.
> 
> I agree that it is a shame that we have standards that are supposed to 
> insure federal government web sites work with assistive technologies and 
> in some cases they just do not. Since the USAJOBS site was "updated" in 
> either late 2011 or early 2012, it has been far less accessible with 
> whatever screen reader you choose. And it's hard to stay motivated enough 
> to document and report each issue if that's what we're expected to do. It 
> would be nice if enough forethought was applied that things would just 
> work. But that's a utopia we may never enjoy.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear All:
> I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I 
> have tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an 
> on-line job on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
> 1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly 
> and either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this 
> happened, or I had to hit “reload page”.
> In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it 
> would not go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I 
> checked with a Human Resources person who indicates that none of my 
> attempts have gotten thro

Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Karen Lewellen]

Actually Jason,   your suggestion flipped a switch.
My sister has been a federal staffer for decades for the Center for 
disease control.
Anyway I popped over to the usajobs.gov site in a low graphics, but java 
friendly browser.

There is a section  labeled "for people with disabilities,"
 under this section, there is a directory of the sccp  staff by 
department.  these people are specifically designated to facilitate 
application problems in their respective agencies.  Christine,  I do not 
recall the position you are seeking, but perhaps this is a direct door?

Hope this helps,
Kare


On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Jason White wrote:


Christine Grassman  wrote:

Here’s a little ironic twist for you: I sent a message to both my Senators
and Representative, and one of the Senator’s email responses contains a
privacy release form link . . . which is inaccessible.


Interesting...

Perhaps you could identify and write to the section 508 coordinator of the
relevant US government department.

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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Karen Lewellen]

Christine,
call them.
There is a reason in   the Liaison case.  i did not understand she was 
blind, but deaf or a combination,   the office of public engagement helps 
facilitate communications for Ms. Gordon.   there are some things not best 
for email you 
know?


I would say the same for your representatives...especially the one with 
the problem form.  Given anyone can send an email from anywhere, sometimes 
putting human presence to problems makes a difference.
As an interesting question, were you able to test things in a low graphics 
environment?

Kare


On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Christine Grassman wrote:


Here’s a little ironic twist for you: I sent a message to both my Senators and 
Representative, and one of the Senator’s email responses contains a privacy 
release form link . . . which is inaccessible.
Meanwhile, when I tried to locate a contact form for Claudia Gordon, who is 
ostensibly the liaison between the President’s administration and the 
disability community, the only thing I could find was an offer to contact the 
White House, since she is the disability liaison for the White House’s Office 
of Public Engagement. How likely do you think it is that my message will get 
through that barrage of correspondence?
Cherie, could you please clarify what you mean by “legacy solutions”? My 
husband works in a federal building and sees a reasonable number of disabled 
employees working for the various agencies.
Christine




On Jun 16, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:

Windows doesn't help much on USA Jobs.  The Feds dodge most real disability 
accommodations in favor of legacy solutions that have not worked in the 
mainstream.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 16, 2015, at 16:11, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Sounds like something to be reported directly to the President's liaison for 
people with disabilities.  Let's face it, sometimes the fastest avenue to a 
solution is a human who resonates with the problem.
Kare



On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, gs wrote:

I mean I hate to seem so hopeless when it comes to using the Mac with the 
USAJOBs site, but I have not had good luck with it even when changing user 
agents. And I know employment is a serious thing. So when there is a job that 
closes in two days or maybe just a few hours and you are trying to find a 
reliable method to complete the application process, the last thing you want 
are these kinds of issues. So for those times, use Windows at this point. We 
need to probably try to work together to get these issues resolved for the 
future.

I agree that it is a shame that we have standards that are supposed to insure federal 
government web sites work with assistive technologies and in some cases they just do not. 
Since the USAJOBS site was "updated" in either late 2011 or early 2012, it has 
been far less accessible with whatever screen reader you choose. And it's hard to stay 
motivated enough to document and report each issue if that's what we're expected to do. 
It would be nice if enough forethought was applied that things would just work. But 
that's a utopia we may never enjoy.




On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

Dear All:
I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line job 
on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or I 
had to hit “reload page”.
In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would not 
go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with a 
Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, and 
the correct one was selected.

2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded to 
my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.

3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill out 
the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and received a 
message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my status, it said 
“Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked last evening and 
this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.

So:
a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am especially 
interested in hearing from anyone who used
usajobs.gov  specifically.

b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular I 
should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the Help 
desk

Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Jason White]

Christine Grassman  wrote:
> Here’s a little ironic twist for you: I sent a message to both my Senators
> and Representative, and one of the Senator’s email responses contains a
> privacy release form link . . . which is inaccessible.  

Interesting...

Perhaps you could identify and write to the section 508 coordinator of the
relevant US government department.

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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Christine Grassman]

Here’s a little ironic twist for you: I sent a message to both my Senators and 
Representative, and one of the Senator’s email responses contains a privacy 
release form link . . . which is inaccessible.
Meanwhile, when I tried to locate a contact form for Claudia Gordon, who is 
ostensibly the liaison between the President’s administration and the 
disability community, the only thing I could find was an offer to contact the 
White House, since she is the disability liaison for the White House’s Office 
of Public Engagement. How likely do you think it is that my message will get 
through that barrage of correspondence?
Cherie, could you please clarify what you mean by “legacy solutions”? My 
husband works in a federal building and sees a reasonable number of disabled 
employees working for the various agencies.
Christine



> On Jun 16, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
> 
> Windows doesn't help much on USA Jobs.  The Feds dodge most real disability 
> accommodations in favor of legacy solutions that have not worked in the 
> mainstream.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 16:11, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds like something to be reported directly to the President's liaison for 
>> people with disabilities.  Let's face it, sometimes the fastest avenue to a 
>> solution is a human who resonates with the problem.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, gs wrote:
>>> 
>>> I mean I hate to seem so hopeless when it comes to using the Mac with the 
>>> USAJOBs site, but I have not had good luck with it even when changing user 
>>> agents. And I know employment is a serious thing. So when there is a job 
>>> that closes in two days or maybe just a few hours and you are trying to 
>>> find a reliable method to complete the application process, the last thing 
>>> you want are these kinds of issues. So for those times, use Windows at this 
>>> point. We need to probably try to work together to get these issues 
>>> resolved for the future.
>>> 
>>> I agree that it is a shame that we have standards that are supposed to 
>>> insure federal government web sites work with assistive technologies and in 
>>> some cases they just do not. Since the USAJOBS site was "updated" in either 
>>> late 2011 or early 2012, it has been far less accessible with whatever 
>>> screen reader you choose. And it's hard to stay motivated enough to 
>>> document and report each issue if that's what we're expected to do. It 
>>> would be nice if enough forethought was applied that things would just 
>>> work. But that's a utopia we may never enjoy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear All:
>>> I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I 
>>> have tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an 
>>> on-line job on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
>>> 1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly 
>>> and either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this 
>>> happened, or I had to hit “reload page”.
>>> In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would 
>>> not go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked 
>>> with a Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have 
>>> gotten through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents 
>>> saved to my account, even though I definitely do and they were actually 
>>> being listed, and the correct one was selected.
>>> 
>>> 2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, 
>>> but had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents 
>>> uploaded to my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the 
>>> correct one selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the 
>>> process.
>>> 
>>> 3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill 
>>> out the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and 
>>> received a message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my 
>>> status, it said “Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist 
>>> checked last evening and this morning, and my application is nowhere to be 
>>> found.
>>> 
>>> So:
>>> a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am 
>>> especially interested in hearing from anyone who used
>>> usajobs.gov  specifically.
>>> 
>>> b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in 
>>> particular I should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or 
>>> suggest to the Help desk?
>>> C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com 
>>> .  Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a 
>>> compatible browser, Monster.com ’s help desk said 
>>> Safari was not compatible, which is why I used Internet Explorer 10.
>>> Just a note: I did re

Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Cheree Heppe]

Windows doesn't help much on USA Jobs.  The Feds dodge most real disability 
accommodations in favor of legacy solutions that have not worked in the 
mainstream.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 16:11, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like something to be reported directly to the President's liaison for 
> people with disabilities.  Let's face it, sometimes the fastest avenue to a 
> solution is a human who resonates with the problem.
> Kare
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, gs wrote:
>> 
>> I mean I hate to seem so hopeless when it comes to using the Mac with the 
>> USAJOBs site, but I have not had good luck with it even when changing user 
>> agents. And I know employment is a serious thing. So when there is a job 
>> that closes in two days or maybe just a few hours and you are trying to find 
>> a reliable method to complete the application process, the last thing you 
>> want are these kinds of issues. So for those times, use Windows at this 
>> point. We need to probably try to work together to get these issues resolved 
>> for the future.
>> 
>> I agree that it is a shame that we have standards that are supposed to 
>> insure federal government web sites work with assistive technologies and in 
>> some cases they just do not. Since the USAJOBS site was "updated" in either 
>> late 2011 or early 2012, it has been far less accessible with whatever 
>> screen reader you choose. And it's hard to stay motivated enough to document 
>> and report each issue if that's what we're expected to do. It would be nice 
>> if enough forethought was applied that things would just work. But that's a 
>> utopia we may never enjoy.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All:
>> I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
>> tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line 
>> job on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
>> 1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
>> either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or 
>> I had to hit “reload page”.
>> In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would 
>> not go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with 
>> a Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
>> through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
>> account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, 
>> and the correct one was selected.
>> 
>> 2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
>> had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded 
>> to my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
>> selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.
>> 
>> 3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill 
>> out the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and 
>> received a message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my 
>> status, it said “Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked 
>> last evening and this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.
>> 
>> So:
>> a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am 
>> especially interested in hearing from anyone who used
>> usajobs.gov  specifically.
>> 
>> b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular 
>> I should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the 
>> Help desk?
>> C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com 
>> .  Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a 
>> compatible browser, Monster.com ’s help desk said 
>> Safari was not compatible, which is why I used Internet Explorer 10.
>> Just a note: I did reboot several times, emptied my cache and history, and 
>> refreshed the screen after going into the user agent menu and suggesting a 
>> different browser.
>> I would truly appreciate help here; if I have to write to an HR person for 
>> each and every federal job application, things are going to become very 
>> tedious very fast, and frankly, there is no earthly reason why I should not 
>> be able to do this with commonly used technology.
>> 
>> Thanks so much in advance.
>> Christine
>> 
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Re: Apple watch voices

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, yeah, that is kind of what I had suspected.  I figured that there 
probably wouldn't be enough processor power.  Not only that, but I hear the 
watches only come with 2 gigs of capassity, and seeing Alex is over 800MB, 
um... yeah... that could be a problem, I recken.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Apple watch voices


No. You only get the voice from switching the languages, so if you switch it
to British English, you get Daniel or Tom, whoever it is, Australian is
Karen, etc.

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Apple watch voices


I don't have an Apple Watch, nor have actually seen one in person, so
forgive me, but can you use Alex on the watch, like you can on I O S?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 

To: "Macvisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: Apple watch voices


So how does one change the voice as when I set up my watch up, I had to have
the horrible Daniel.

Thanks.

Kawal.
On 15 Jun 2015, at 22:16, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:

I don't have a watch but I wonder if the frequency range of the voices
matter? I know it takes more power/bigger speakers to reproduce bass notes
so it could be that a male Daniel voice pushes the limits more that a higher
pitched Samantha.

CB

On 6/15/15 5:09 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
Yes, Samantha is less noticeable. The other sounds on the Watch sound 
great with no distortion. It almost sounds like the other voices are at 
the lower quality but I have nothing to say this is true. They just don’t 
sound good on my particular Watch and Samantha sounds OK.


I agree that they did a nice job with the small audio on the Watch.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com




On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi Jenine and Graham,

Just by way of a counterpoint, I barely notice the distortion.  I'm using 
Samantha, so it may just be that it's less pronounced, but honestly, if 
Jenine hadn't written her message, I wouldn't have even thought about it. 
I'm betting that the distortion has more to do with the tiny speaker than 
with a problem with the voice.  I actually think Apple's done a good job 
of pumping the sound out, and some distortion, IMO is inevitable under 
the circumstances.  The other thing I'd mention is that you're listening 
to the voice for much shorter bits of language than you would on a Mac or 
an iPhone, so something that might really grate on your nerves if you're 
say reading a book, is less offensive if you are just checking the time 
or something like that, at least for me.


Just my $.02.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jun 15, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Jenine Stanley  
wrote:


Graham, Donna is corrrect. The one thing to keep in mind that I’ve found 
is that all of the voices tend to distort at the highest volume, even 
Samantha. The Karen and especially Daniel voices distort at around 75% 
volume versus the 95% at which Samantha starts to distort.


The voices need work. Don’t blame you for hating the Daniel voice. Give 
me Oliver from the Mac.

Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:03 PM, 'Graham' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Hi,

Does anyone know if it is possible to change the voice on the apple 
watch? In the uk we get that horrible daniel voice which i dispise. If 
it could be changed to the karen voice i'd likely invest.


Kind regards

Graham


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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Christine Grassman]

Thank you, Eileen, for your input, and thank you Kare, for your suggestion, 
which is an excellent one, as I believe that individual is actually blind.
Eileen, did you report your difficulties, and did anyone else you know? I was 
contemplating bringing this to my Senators and Representative, but perhaps the 
liaison is the way to go . . . 
Christine

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like something to be reported directly to the President's liaison for 
> people with disabilities.  Let's face it, sometimes the fastest avenue to a 
> solution is a human who resonates with the problem.
> Kare
> 
> 
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, gs wrote:
> 
>> I mean I hate to seem so hopeless when it comes to using the Mac with the 
>> USAJOBs site, but I have not had good luck with it even when changing user 
>> agents. And I know employment is a serious thing. So when there is a job 
>> that closes in two days or maybe just a few hours and you are trying to find 
>> a reliable method to complete the application process, the last thing you 
>> want are these kinds of issues. So for those times, use Windows at this 
>> point. We need to probably try to work together to get these issues resolved 
>> for the future.
>> 
>> I agree that it is a shame that we have standards that are supposed to 
>> insure federal government web sites work with assistive technologies and in 
>> some cases they just do not. Since the USAJOBS site was "updated" in either 
>> late 2011 or early 2012, it has been far less accessible with whatever 
>> screen reader you choose. And it's hard to stay motivated enough to document 
>> and report each issue if that's what we're expected to do. It would be nice 
>> if enough forethought was applied that things would just work. But that's a 
>> utopia we may never enjoy.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All:
>> I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
>> tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line 
>> job on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
>> 1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
>> either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or 
>> I had to hit “reload page”.
>> In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would 
>> not go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with 
>> a Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
>> through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
>> account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, 
>> and the correct one was selected.
>> 
>> 2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
>> had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded 
>> to my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
>> selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.
>> 
>> 3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill 
>> out the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and 
>> received a message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my 
>> status, it said “Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked 
>> last evening and this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.
>> 
>> So:
>> a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am 
>> especially interested in hearing from anyone who used
>> usajobs.gov  specifically.
>> 
>> b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular 
>> I should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the 
>> Help desk?
>> C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com 
>> .  Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a 
>> compatible browser, Monster.com ’s help desk said 
>> Safari was not compatible, which is why I used Internet Explorer 10.
>> Just a note: I did reboot several times, emptied my cache and history, and 
>> refreshed the screen after going into the user agent menu and suggesting a 
>> different browser.
>> I would truly appreciate help here; if I have to write to an HR person for 
>> each and every federal job application, things are going to become very 
>> tedious very fast, and frankly, there is no earthly reason why I should not 
>> be able to do this with commonly used technology.
>> 
>> Thanks so much in advance.
>> Christine
>> 
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RE: Installing a virtual mac under Vmware

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

One thing you can do is use the fn key on the keyboard with the f5 key and this 
works fine for me.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 6:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Installing a virtual mac under Vmware

The two options I can see:

1. Remap the Mac host  keystroke to something else, if this can be done under 
keyboard prefence.
2. Use another keyboard and modify the VMWare config file so the 2nd keyboard 
is fully controlled by the guess OS (your Test Mac os). This is what I do for 
Windows  in the past. When using 7.1 Pro I have had issues with it not working 
as it is documented. Looking into it still.

Sean 

> On 16 Jun 2015, at 9:01 am, Tom Moore  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> I use VMware every day for both windows and Linux machines have 
> basically got everything worked out as far as accessing most of their 
> functions.
> The big question left for me is now that VMware supports running 
> virtual mac os's how can this be done so that a person can hit command
> f5 with out starting up the Voiceover on the host?
> If this can be made to work a virtual mac can be installed for testing 
> purposes and run along side the host os.
> 
> Thanks for any tips you guys may have.
> 
> Tom
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Re: does any one know much a apple extreme router costs?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Depending on your currency, they're about $200 or so.  Yes, they'll handle your 
MacBook Air, your Mini and about 48 other devices simultaneously and still get 
good performance.  The newer MacBook Airs with the 802.11 AC connectivity will 
actually get 1 GB network speed out of this device.  They are a little more 
expensive than some other access points, but their performance is excellent.  
They are also "extremely" easy to set up, pun intended.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 16, 2015, at 17:13, Shaf  wrote:

Google does.

On 6/17/2015 12:11 AM, Adrian Leong wrote:
> does any one know if the 11 inch book air can share a why fy connection with 
> a i pad mini? does any one know how much a air port extreme costs?
> 

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Re: does any one know much a apple extreme router costs?

[Shaf]

Google does.

On 6/17/2015 12:11 AM, Adrian Leong wrote:

does any one know if the 11 inch book air can share a why fy connection with a 
i pad mini? does any one know how much a air port extreme costs?



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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Karen Lewellen]

Sounds like something to be reported directly to the President's liaison 
for people with disabilities.  Let's face it, sometimes the fastest avenue 
to a solution is a human who resonates with the problem.

Kare


On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, gs wrote:


I mean I hate to seem so hopeless when it comes to using the Mac with the 
USAJOBs site, but I have not had good luck with it even when changing user 
agents. And I know employment is a serious thing. So when there is a job that 
closes in two days or maybe just a few hours and you are trying to find a 
reliable method to complete the application process, the last thing you want 
are these kinds of issues. So for those times, use Windows at this point. We 
need to probably try to work together to get these issues resolved for the 
future.

I agree that it is a shame that we have standards that are supposed to insure federal 
government web sites work with assistive technologies and in some cases they just do not. 
Since the USAJOBS site was "updated" in either late 2011 or early 2012, it has 
been far less accessible with whatever screen reader you choose. And it's hard to stay 
motivated enough to document and report each issue if that's what we're expected to do. 
It would be nice if enough forethought was applied that things would just work. But 
that's a utopia we may never enjoy.




On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

Dear All:
I am at my wit???s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line job 
on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or I 
had to hit ???reload page???.
In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would not 
go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with a 
Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, and 
the correct one was selected.

2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded to 
my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.

3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill out 
the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to ???Finish??? and received 
a message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my status, it said 
???Received???.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked last evening 
and this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.

So:
a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am especially 
interested in hearing from anyone who used
usajobs.gov  specifically.

b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular I 
should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the Help 
desk?
C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com 
.  Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a compatible 
browser, Monster.com ???s help desk said Safari was not 
compatible, which is why I used Internet Explorer 10.
Just a note: I did reboot several times, emptied my cache and history, and 
refreshed the screen after going into the user agent menu and suggesting a 
different browser.
I would truly appreciate help here; if I have to write to an HR person for each 
and every federal job application, things are going to become very tedious very 
fast, and frankly, there is no earthly reason why I should not be able to do 
this with commonly used technology.

Thanks so much in advance.
Christine

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does any one know much a apple extreme router costs?

[Adrian Leong]

does any one know if the 11 inch book air can share a why fy connection with a 
i pad mini? does any one know how much a air port extreme costs?

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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[gs]

I mean I hate to seem so hopeless when it comes to using the Mac with the 
USAJOBs site, but I have not had good luck with it even when changing user 
agents. And I know employment is a serious thing. So when there is a job that 
closes in two days or maybe just a few hours and you are trying to find a 
reliable method to complete the application process, the last thing you want 
are these kinds of issues. So for those times, use Windows at this point. We 
need to probably try to work together to get these issues resolved for the 
future.

I agree that it is a shame that we have standards that are supposed to insure 
federal government web sites work with assistive technologies and in some cases 
they just do not. Since the USAJOBS site was "updated" in either late 2011 or 
early 2012, it has been far less accessible with whatever screen reader you 
choose. And it's hard to stay motivated enough to document and report each 
issue if that's what we're expected to do. It would be nice if enough 
forethought was applied that things would just work. But that's a utopia we may 
never enjoy.




On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

Dear All:
I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line job 
on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or I 
had to hit “reload page”.
In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would not 
go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with a 
Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, and 
the correct one was selected.

2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded to 
my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.

3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill out 
the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and received a 
message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my status, it said 
“Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked last evening and 
this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.

So:
a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am especially 
interested in hearing from anyone who used 
usajobs.gov  specifically.

b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular I 
should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the Help 
desk?
C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com 
.  Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a 
compatible browser, Monster.com ’s help desk said Safari 
was not compatible, which is why I used Internet Explorer 10. 
Just a note: I did reboot several times, emptied my cache and history, and 
refreshed the screen after going into the user agent menu and suggesting a 
different browser.
I would truly appreciate help here; if I have to write to an HR person for each 
and every federal job application, things are going to become very tedious very 
fast, and frankly, there is no earthly reason why I should not be able to do 
this with commonly used technology.

Thanks so much in advance. 
Christine

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Re: Taking Video for Youtube

[Phil Halton]

That's pretty much how I do it too, I use handling's finger links arm links 
etc. to measure out all the distances when I'm playing for a video.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Firstly, those videos are wrong.  You never ever should eat a mike unless 
> you're looking for a real muddy sound with nothing but low ends, and 
> basically lots of clipping.  Yeah, you can use a limiter, or a compressor, 
> and maybe cut out some of it, and then use an EQ to roll off some of the mud, 
> but even still, it's not going to sound very good.  Depending on the effect 
> you're looking for, generally with mikes like the snowball, etc. you want to 
> be about 6 inches.  Put your thumb on your bottom lip, then extend your other 
> fingers out.  Touch the tip of your pinky to your microphone, while still 
> leaving the tip of your thumb on the same hand on your bottom lip.  That's 
> how I generally teach my students to start gaging it.  OK, you may have to 
> back off a little more, or come in a little bit more, but generally, that 
> should get you in the ball park.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Taking Video for Youtube
> 
> 
> I've mostly been recording acoustic instruments, so I get the mic right up to 
> the sound hole, or the resonator, etc. certain demo videos on YouTube have 
> suggested that you really got a "eat them like" to get a good clean sound.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Regarding the snowball, how then did you manage to get the thing close 
>> enough to your mouth?  Did you use the stand that comes with it?
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 9:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: Taking Video for Youtube
>> 
>> 
>> Yes I do, I use my MacBook air for the camera, and I have an external 
>> snowball blue Snowball microphone.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do you record from your computer, Phil?
>>> 
>>> Caitlyn
>>> 
 On Jun 14, 2015, at 7:27 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 Brandon, currently I'm using the built in QuickTime app to do all my video 
 recording. You can then just upload the video clips to YouTube from within 
 the app if you desire. As far as an auto position and you in the frame, 
 I'm sorry to say you can forget about that. I have a little bit of site 
 and I always take a few test shots to see if I'm in the frame or not. If 
 you can get some cited assistance they can help you get in the frame, and 
 then you can remember to wear your position, distance from the computer 
 height of your seat etc. That's how I do it.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
> On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> A few questions. I’d like to record video to upload to Youtube. What’s 
> the best application to use for this?
> 
> Secondly, on a more practical note, is there a way I can do this 
> independently, and yet make sure it’s capturing my face, and not like the 
> top of my head or something? I know it won’t be perfect, being blind, but 
> would like to make it as good as possible. Any other recommendations 
> would be appreciated as well.
> 
> Peace,
> Brandon
> 
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Re: Apple watch voices

[Brent Harding]

No. You only get the voice from switching the languages, so if you switch it 
to British English, you get Daniel or Tom, whoever it is, Australian is 
Karen, etc.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Apple watch voices


I don't have an Apple Watch, nor have actually seen one in person, so
forgive me, but can you use Alex on the watch, like you can on I O S?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 

To: "Macvisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: Apple watch voices


So how does one change the voice as when I set up my watch up, I had to have
the horrible Daniel.

Thanks.

Kawal.
On 15 Jun 2015, at 22:16, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:

I don't have a watch but I wonder if the frequency range of the voices
matter? I know it takes more power/bigger speakers to reproduce bass notes
so it could be that a male Daniel voice pushes the limits more that a higher
pitched Samantha.

CB

On 6/15/15 5:09 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
Yes, Samantha is less noticeable. The other sounds on the Watch sound 
great with no distortion. It almost sounds like the other voices are at 
the lower quality but I have nothing to say this is true. They just don’t 
sound good on my particular Watch and Samantha sounds OK.


I agree that they did a nice job with the small audio on the Watch.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com




On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi Jenine and Graham,

Just by way of a counterpoint, I barely notice the distortion.  I'm using 
Samantha, so it may just be that it's less pronounced, but honestly, if 
Jenine hadn't written her message, I wouldn't have even thought about it. 
I'm betting that the distortion has more to do with the tiny speaker than 
with a problem with the voice.  I actually think Apple's done a good job 
of pumping the sound out, and some distortion, IMO is inevitable under 
the circumstances.  The other thing I'd mention is that you're listening 
to the voice for much shorter bits of language than you would on a Mac or 
an iPhone, so something that might really grate on your nerves if you're 
say reading a book, is less offensive if you are just checking the time 
or something like that, at least for me.


Just my $.02.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jun 15, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Jenine Stanley  
wrote:


Graham, Donna is corrrect. The one thing to keep in mind that I’ve found 
is that all of the voices tend to distort at the highest volume, even 
Samantha. The Karen and especially Daniel voices distort at around 75% 
volume versus the 95% at which Samantha starts to distort.


The voices need work. Don’t blame you for hating the Daniel voice. Give 
me Oliver from the Mac.

Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:03 PM, 'Graham' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Hi,

Does anyone know if it is possible to change the voice on the apple 
watch? In the uk we get that horrible daniel voice which i dispise. If 
it could be changed to the karen voice i'd likely invest.


Kind regards

Graham


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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[gs]

Best bet is to just use Windows and a Windows screen reader to complete your 
resume and application process on USAJOBS.
On Jun 16, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Eileen  wrote:

Hi Christine,

About 3 years ago, I tried to apply for a position in the VA system. I had a 
difficuls time uploading and filling out the online application. I had my 
husband look at it and help me, but even he had problems with it and he's fully 
sighted. I decided to forget it, as the Federal government made the process so 
impossible to apply. I do know of one individual who is a high partial who 
managed to complete the application process, but had indicated to me that it 
was extremely hard to get it completed and she is in the assistive technology 
field. I know that the Federal government should be taken to task on this. I 
know I haven't been much assistance, only to know that there are others in the 
same boat as you. The positions I have attempted to apply for will only accept 
online applications. It's a pity because there are many of us who would make 
excellent employees and are qualified for the jobs they post.

Good luck and if I hear more tips on how to apply for a Federal position, I'll 
pass them on to you.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Christine Grassman mailto:cgrassman1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> Dear All:
> I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
> tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line job 
> on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
> 1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
> either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or I 
> had to hit “reload page”.
> In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would 
> not go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with 
> a Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
> through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
> account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, and 
> the correct one was selected.
> 
> 2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
> had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded 
> to my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
> selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.
> 
> 3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill out 
> the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and received a 
> message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my status, it said 
> “Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked last evening and 
> this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.
> 
> So:
> a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am especially 
> interested in hearing from anyone who used 
> usajobs.gov  specifically.
> 
> b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular 
> I should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the 
> Help desk?
> C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com 
> .  Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a 
> compatible browser, Monster.com ’s help desk said Safari 
> was not compatible, which is why I used Internet Explorer 10. 
> Just a note: I did reboot several times, emptied my cache and history, and 
> refreshed the screen after going into the user agent menu and suggesting a 
> different browser.
> I would truly appreciate help here; if I have to write to an HR person for 
> each and every federal job application, things are going to become very 
> tedious very fast, and frankly, there is no earthly reason why I should not 
> be able to do this with commonly used technology.
> 
> Thanks so much in advance. 
> Christine
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Re: Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Eileen]

Hi Christine,

About 3 years ago, I tried to apply for a position in the VA system. I had a 
difficuls time uploading and filling out the online application. I had my 
husband look at it and help me, but even he had problems with it and he's fully 
sighted. I decided to forget it, as the Federal government made the process so 
impossible to apply. I do know of one individual who is a high partial who 
managed to complete the application process, but had indicated to me that it 
was extremely hard to get it completed and she is in the assistive technology 
field. I know that the Federal government should be taken to task on this. I 
know I haven't been much assistance, only to know that there are others in the 
same boat as you. The positions I have attempted to apply for will only accept 
online applications. It's a pity because there are many of us who would make 
excellent employees and are qualified for the jobs they post.

Good luck and if I hear more tips on how to apply for a Federal position, I'll 
pass them on to you.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear All:
> I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
> tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line job 
> on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
> 1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
> either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or I 
> had to hit “reload page”.
> In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would 
> not go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with 
> a Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
> through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
> account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, and 
> the correct one was selected.
> 
> 2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
> had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded 
> to my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
> selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.
> 
> 3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill out 
> the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and received a 
> message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my status, it said 
> “Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked last evening and 
> this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.
> 
> So:
> a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am especially 
> interested in hearing from anyone who used 
> usajobs.gov specifically.
> 
> b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular 
> I should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the 
> Help desk?
> C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com.  
> Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a compatible browser, 
> Monster.com’s help desk said Safari was not compatible, which is why I used 
> Internet Explorer 10. 
> Just a note: I did reboot several times, emptied my cache and history, and 
> refreshed the screen after going into the user agent menu and suggesting a 
> different browser.
> I would truly appreciate help here; if I have to write to an HR person for 
> each and every federal job application, things are going to become very 
> tedious very fast, and frankly, there is no earthly reason why I should not 
> be able to do this with commonly used technology.
> 
> Thanks so much in advance. 
> Christine
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Re: Apple watch voices

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I don't have an Apple Watch, nor have actually seen one in person, so 
forgive me, but can you use Alex on the watch, like you can on I O S?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 

To: "Macvisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: Apple watch voices


So how does one change the voice as when I set up my watch up, I had to have 
the horrible Daniel.


Thanks.

Kawal.
On 15 Jun 2015, at 22:16, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


I don't have a watch but I wonder if the frequency range of the voices 
matter? I know it takes more power/bigger speakers to reproduce bass notes 
so it could be that a male Daniel voice pushes the limits more that a higher 
pitched Samantha.


CB

On 6/15/15 5:09 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
Yes, Samantha is less noticeable. The other sounds on the Watch sound 
great with no distortion. It almost sounds like the other voices are at 
the lower quality but I have nothing to say this is true. They just don’t 
sound good on my particular Watch and Samantha sounds OK.


I agree that they did a nice job with the small audio on the Watch.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com




On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi Jenine and Graham,

Just by way of a counterpoint, I barely notice the distortion.  I'm using 
Samantha, so it may just be that it's less pronounced, but honestly, if 
Jenine hadn't written her message, I wouldn't have even thought about it. 
I'm betting that the distortion has more to do with the tiny speaker than 
with a problem with the voice.  I actually think Apple's done a good job 
of pumping the sound out, and some distortion, IMO is inevitable under 
the circumstances.  The other thing I'd mention is that you're listening 
to the voice for much shorter bits of language than you would on a Mac or 
an iPhone, so something that might really grate on your nerves if you're 
say reading a book, is less offensive if you are just checking the time 
or something like that, at least for me.


Just my $.02.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jun 15, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Jenine Stanley  
wrote:


Graham, Donna is corrrect. The one thing to keep in mind that I’ve found 
is that all of the voices tend to distort at the highest volume, even 
Samantha. The Karen and especially Daniel voices distort at around 75% 
volume versus the 95% at which Samantha starts to distort.


The voices need work. Don’t blame you for hating the Daniel voice. Give 
me Oliver from the Mac.

Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:03 PM, 'Graham' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Hi,

Does anyone know if it is possible to change the voice on the apple 
watch? In the uk we get that horrible daniel voice which i dispise. If 
it could be changed to the karen voice i'd likely invest.


Kind regards

Graham


Sent from my iPad

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Re: Apple watch voices

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

So how does one change the voice as when I set up my watch up, I had to have 
the horrible Daniel.

Thanks.

Kawal.
On 15 Jun 2015, at 22:16, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I don't have a watch but I wonder if the frequency range of the voices matter? 
I know it takes more power/bigger speakers to reproduce bass notes so it could 
be that a male Daniel voice pushes the limits more that a higher pitched 
Samantha.

CB

On 6/15/15 5:09 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:
> Yes, Samantha is less noticeable. The other sounds on the Watch sound great 
> with no distortion. It almost sounds like the other voices are at the lower 
> quality but I have nothing to say this is true. They just don’t sound good on 
> my particular Watch and Samantha sounds OK.
> 
> I agree that they did a nice job with the small audio on the Watch.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jenine and Graham,
>> 
>> Just by way of a counterpoint, I barely notice the distortion.  I'm using 
>> Samantha, so it may just be that it's less pronounced, but honestly, if 
>> Jenine hadn't written her message, I wouldn't have even thought about it.  
>> I'm betting that the distortion has more to do with the tiny speaker than 
>> with a problem with the voice.  I actually think Apple's done a good job of 
>> pumping the sound out, and some distortion, IMO is inevitable under the 
>> circumstances.  The other thing I'd mention is that you're listening to the 
>> voice for much shorter bits of language than you would on a Mac or an 
>> iPhone, so something that might really grate on your nerves if you're say 
>> reading a book, is less offensive if you are just checking the time or 
>> something like that, at least for me.
>> 
>> Just my $.02.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jun 15, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Jenine Stanley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Graham, Donna is corrrect. The one thing to keep in mind that I’ve found is 
>>> that all of the voices tend to distort at the highest volume, even  
>>> Samantha. The Karen and especially Daniel voices distort at around 75% 
>>> volume versus the 95% at which Samantha starts to distort.
>>> 
>>> The voices need work. Don’t blame you for hating the Daniel voice. Give me 
>>> Oliver from the Mac.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:03 PM, 'Graham' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Does anyone know if it is possible to change the voice on the apple watch? 
 In the uk we get that horrible daniel voice which i dispise. If it could 
 be changed to the karen voice i'd likely invest.
 
 Kind regards
 
 Graham
 
 
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Attention Any Americans Who Have Applied On-line for Jobs through usajobs.gov *urgent help; needed*

[Christine Grassman]

Dear All:
I am at my wit’s end. I am using a MacBook Air, running Yosemite, and I have 
tried Safari and Internet Explorer 10. I attempted to apply to an on-line job 
on a federal government website specifically for that purpose.
1. When I used Safari, I kept getting messages that it quit unexpectedly and 
either hit Ignore and things were as they had been before this happened, or I 
had to hit “reload page”.
In addition, every time I tried to execute the last task required, it would not 
go through, yet the system said I had executed the task. (I checked with a 
Human Resources person who indicates that none of my attempts have gotten 
through.)  I also kept getting warnings that I had no documents saved to my 
account, even though I definitely do and they were actually being listed, and 
the correct one was selected.

2. When I used Internet Explorer 10, I did not get the quitting problem, but 
had the same problem with the same warning that I had no documents uploaded to 
my account, despite the fact that they were listed and the correct one 
selected.  Again, I could not get past a certain point in the process.

3. I ad my daughter, also blind and using a Windows PC with Firefox, fill out 
the application.  It seemed to go smoothly; we got to “Finish” and received a 
message to check my status for updates.  When I checked my status, it said 
“Received”.  However, the Human Resources specialist checked last evening and 
this morning, and my application is nowhere to be found.

So:
a. Has anyone successfully used a federal government website; I am especially 
interested in hearing from anyone who used 
usajobs.gov  specifically.

b. Can anyone fathom what might be going on? Is there anything in particular I 
should try, or anything I should bring to the attention or suggest to the Help 
desk?
C. They apparently work with Career Connector, overseen by Monster.com 
.  Although I saw a list that stated that Safari is a 
compatible browser, Monster.com’s help desk said Safari was not compatible, 
which is why I used Internet Explorer 10. 
Just a note: I did reboot several times, emptied my cache and history, and 
refreshed the screen after going into the user agent menu and suggesting a 
different browser.
I would truly appreciate help here; if I have to write to an HR person for each 
and every federal job application, things are going to become very tedious very 
fast, and frankly, there is no earthly reason why I should not be able to do 
this with commonly used technology.

Thanks so much in advance. 
Christine

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Re: Taking Video for Youtube

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Firstly, those videos are wrong.  You never ever should eat a mike unless 
you're looking for a real muddy sound with nothing but low ends, and 
basically lots of clipping.  Yeah, you can use a limiter, or a compressor, 
and maybe cut out some of it, and then use an EQ to roll off some of the 
mud, but even still, it's not going to sound very good.  Depending on the 
effect you're looking for, generally with mikes like the snowball, etc. you 
want to be about 6 inches.  Put your thumb on your bottom lip, then extend 
your other fingers out.  Touch the tip of your pinky to your microphone, 
while still leaving the tip of your thumb on the same hand on your bottom 
lip.  That's how I generally teach my students to start gaging it.  OK, you 
may have to back off a little more, or come in a little bit more, but 
generally, that should get you in the ball park.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Halton" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Taking Video for Youtube


I've mostly been recording acoustic instruments, so I get the mic right up 
to the sound hole, or the resonator, etc. certain demo videos on YouTube 
have suggested that you really got a "eat them like" to get a good clean 
sound.


Sent from my IPhone


On Jun 16, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Regarding the snowball, how then did you manage to get the thing close 
enough to your mouth?  Did you use the stand that comes with it?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Taking Video for Youtube


Yes I do, I use my MacBook air for the camera, and I have an external 
snowball blue Snowball microphone.


Sent from my IPhone


On Jun 14, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
wrote:


Do you record from your computer, Phil?

Caitlyn


On Jun 14, 2015, at 7:27 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

Brandon, currently I'm using the built in QuickTime app to do all my 
video recording. You can then just upload the video clips to YouTube 
from within the app if you desire. As far as an auto position and you in 
the frame, I'm sorry to say you can forget about that. I have a little 
bit of site and I always take a few test shots to see if I'm in the 
frame or not. If you can get some cited assistance they can help you get 
in the frame, and then you can remember to wear your position, distance 
from the computer height of your seat etc. That's how I do it.


Sent from my IPhone


On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
 wrote:


Hi everyone,

A few questions. I’d like to record video to upload to Youtube. What’s 
the best application to use for this?


Secondly, on a more practical note, is there a way I can do this 
independently, and yet make sure it’s capturing my face, and not like 
the top of my head or something? I know it won’t be perfect, being 
blind, but would like to make it as good as possible. Any other 
recommendations would be appreciated as well.


Peace,
Brandon


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Re: performing an option click on a control?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Never mind Jonathan, I Googled it, and I found the webinar and have 
successfully made my purchase.  Thanks, and I look forward to receiving the 
download link as soon as you are able.

clgillan...@gmail.com

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan Mosen 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:07 AM
  Subject: Re: performing an option click on a control?


  It is not necessary either to be in DFU mode or to press shift+Space on 
Restore in order to install a new iOS beta build. The only time one needs to go 
about this is when downgrading from a beta to a previous build. This is all 
covered in my Testing Testing audio presentation for those who are interested.
  The original poster has it correct, you can just Option-click the Check for 
Updates button, which brings up an open file dialog. And as has been said here 
by others, shift+Space on that button is a substitutes that works, in both Mac 
and Windows.

  Jonathan Mosen
  Mosen Consulting
  Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
  http://Mosen.org


On 16/06/2015, at 11:28 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


What does that do by option clicking check for update?  If you're trying to 
put another version of I O S on your device, then you need to be option 
clicking on the restore button, not the check for update button.  And, make 
sure before you do this, that your device is in DFU mode.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Justin Mann" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:00 PM
Subject: performing an option click on a control?


Hi all,
Has anybody ever been able to make option-click work on a control with 
voiceover using the trackpad without having to turn off voiceover?
I’m trying to option-click the “check for update” button in iTunes.
Thanks

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Re: performing an option click on a control?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Jonathan,

I am extremely! extremely, and I do mean extremely! interested in your Testing 
Testing series, where can I go to download or purchase which ever necessary, a 
copy?

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan Mosen 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:07 AM
  Subject: Re: performing an option click on a control?


  It is not necessary either to be in DFU mode or to press shift+Space on 
Restore in order to install a new iOS beta build. The only time one needs to go 
about this is when downgrading from a beta to a previous build. This is all 
covered in my Testing Testing audio presentation for those who are interested.
  The original poster has it correct, you can just Option-click the Check for 
Updates button, which brings up an open file dialog. And as has been said here 
by others, shift+Space on that button is a substitutes that works, in both Mac 
and Windows.

  Jonathan Mosen
  Mosen Consulting
  Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
  http://Mosen.org


On 16/06/2015, at 11:28 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


What does that do by option clicking check for update?  If you're trying to 
put another version of I O S on your device, then you need to be option 
clicking on the restore button, not the check for update button.  And, make 
sure before you do this, that your device is in DFU mode.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Justin Mann" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:00 PM
Subject: performing an option click on a control?


Hi all,
Has anybody ever been able to make option-click work on a control with 
voiceover using the trackpad without having to turn off voiceover?
I’m trying to option-click the “check for update” button in iTunes.
Thanks

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Re: safari doesn't open

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Shaf,

That's actually a good point.  I don't normally do much with plugins, but 
that's a great observation!  I didn't even think about that.


Wow.

Chris.

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From: "Shaf" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: safari doesn't open


Could be your plugins, how many of them have you installed recently?

On 6/16/2015 1:27 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:

Hi,
when I try and run safari on my 2013 macbook air, it sort of opens, but I 
can’t do anything with it.  If I command tab into the safari window, it 
says safari busy, but it just sits there and doesn’t fully open.


I recently had to reinstall the OS, which I did on a clean disk.

I have already repaired disk permissions and veriffied the disk, etc.

what can I do now, besides trying a fresh install again?

thanks,
Caitlyn



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Re: weird issue: iTunes annoumcenets

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

go to the preferences of the itunes, then go to general preferences then 
uncheck when song changes.
> On 16 Jun 2015, at 6:36 pm, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Probably a notification. Open your Notification Center (it's in the Extras 
> menus, or do a 2-finger swipe left with TrackPad Commander off). Find the 
> Preferences button near the end of the resulting window and press it. In the 
> System Preferences panel that appears, find iTunes in the list of apps, and 
> use the radio buttons to select "None" for the notification style. That 
> should stop it from speaking, but use the "include in Notification Center" 
> checkbox if you don't want these items cluttering up your notifications at 
> all.
>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Littlefield, Tyler > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I’m sorry for the multiple questions. I’m starting to use my Mac more 
>> because everyone at my job uses them and it’s security policy yada yada. I 
>> am a bad employee though and listen to music while I work. For whatever 
>> reason Voiceover seems to want to announce the name/artest of a song every 
>> time it changes. is there a way to disable that?
>> 
>> thanks,
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Re: safari doesn't open

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Caitlyn,

Quick question actually.  What do you have Safari normally set to open when 
you launch it?  Like, are you going to your top sites page, a blank page, or 
an actual web ADDRESS?  If an actual web page, which one?  Google?  Or what, 
exactly?  I ask as I am wonderring if the page it is trying to load might be 
crashing Safari.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Caitlyn Furness" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:27 AM
Subject: safari doesn't open


Hi,
when I try and run safari on my 2013 macbook air, it sort of opens, but I 
can’t do anything with it.  If I command tab into the safari window, it says 
safari busy, but it just sits there and doesn’t fully open.


I recently had to reinstall the OS, which I did on a clean disk.

I have already repaired disk permissions and veriffied the disk, etc.

what can I do now, besides trying a fresh install again?

thanks,
Caitlyn

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Re: safari doesn't open

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Youch!  Uh, what if she deletes her Safari preferences PList file?  Does 
anyone think that might help?


chris.

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From: "Caitlyn Furness" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:27 AM
Subject: safari doesn't open


Hi,
when I try and run safari on my 2013 macbook air, it sort of opens, but I 
can’t do anything with it.  If I command tab into the safari window, it says 
safari busy, but it just sits there and doesn’t fully open.


I recently had to reinstall the OS, which I did on a clean disk.

I have already repaired disk permissions and veriffied the disk, etc.

what can I do now, besides trying a fresh install again?

thanks,
Caitlyn

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Re: Taking Video for Youtube

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Sorry, I should a been more specific, it lets you capture your screen, and also 
record audio at the same time.  It's great for doing things like Youtube 
technical training videos and things.  It's a little pricy, but I'm telling 
you, it's well worth it!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Caitlyn Furness 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:23 AM
  Subject: Re: Taking Video for Youtube


  What does this screen flow do?


  thanks!
  Caitlyn


On Jun 16, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


I just use Screenflow.

Chris.

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  Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 7:41 PM
  Subject: Re: Taking Video for Youtube


  good advice but don't forget someone can help you with setting the camera 
via Skype. they don't have to be in the room with you. my friend robin did that 
with me. we figured out how i should set my laptop whether i was sitting at a 
table in a chair or leaning back. i love quick time. its much more basic. you 
press record and then stop. what i like to do is record several small videos as 
its easier to get them right than recording one long video. then i use the add 
clip feature in the edit menu. when i have all the clips tied together I go to 
files and do an export. then i have one whole movie file. as for youtube i 
record in hd but then i do a second export to 480 p because it doesn't hurt the 
viewer's ability to enjoy the video and it allows for much quicker uploads and 
smoother playing on mobile devices. the window is about 530 380 . hope this 
helps, max 



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  On Jun 14, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Phil Halton wrote:


Brandon, currently I'm using the built in QuickTime app to do all my 
video recording. You can then just upload the video clips to YouTube from 
within the app if you desire. As far as an auto position and you in the frame, 
I'm sorry to say you can forget about that. I have a little bit of site and I 
always take a few test shots to see if I'm in the frame or not. If you can get 
some cited assistance they can help you get in the frame, and then you can 
remember to wear your position, distance from the computer height of your seat 
etc. That's how I do it.

Sent from my IPhone



  On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
 wrote:



  Hi everyone,



  A few questions. I’d like to record video to upload to Youtube. 
What’s the best application to use for this?



  Secondly, on a more practical note, is there a way I can do this 
independently, and yet make sure it’s capturing my face, and not like the top 
of my head or something? I know it won’t be perfect, being blind, but would 
like to make it as good as possible. Any other recommendations would be 
appreciated as well.



  Peace,

  Brandon





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Re: performing an option click on a control?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Oh, cool!  Will that work with the restore button as well, Alex?  If so, that 
is awesome!

Chris.

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  From: Alex Hall 
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  Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 6:01 PM
  Subject: Re: performing an option click on a control?


  This might be iTunes-specific, but shift-space on that button will perform 
the same action as option-click. That is, it will let you browse to the .ipsw 
file for manually installing to your device.

On Jun 15, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Buddy Brannan  wrote:


Nope. It can't be done. You have to route your mouse cursor, turn off VO, 
option+click, and turn VO back on.

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  On Jun 12, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Justin Mann  wrote:

  Hi all,
  Has anybody ever been able to make option-click work on a control with 
voiceover using the trackpad without having to turn off voiceover?
  I’m trying to option-click the “check for update” button in iTunes.
  Thanks

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Re: performing an option click on a control?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Chris, I think I know as well where you're going.
There's not one.  That's all I can say.  You know what I mean by, quote: 
one, end quote, I'm sure.


Not yet anyway.

Chris.

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To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: performing an option click on a control?


I might know what you're accomplishing, but can't say too much *smile*. Just 
press shift-space on the "check for update" button.

On 12 Jun 2015, at 20:00, Justin Mann  wrote:

Hi all,
Has anybody ever been able to make option-click work on a control with 
voiceover using the trackpad without having to turn off voiceover?

I’m trying to option-click the “check for update” button in iTunes.
Thanks

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Re: performing an option click on a control?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

You say it can't be done.  I wonder with the help of someone maybe more 
knowledgeable than me, if an Apple Script could be written and mapped to a 
key to allow it to work.


Hmm.  Now you got me curious.

Chris.

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To: 
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Subject: Re: performing an option click on a control?


Nope. It can't be done. You have to route your mouse cursor, turn off VO, 
option+click, and turn VO back on.


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Hi all,
Has anybody ever been able to make option-click work on a control with 
voiceover using the trackpad without having to turn off voiceover?

I’m trying to option-click the “check for update” button in iTunes.
Thanks

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RE: please help

[george b]

Hay this is not a chat room ask him person to person big fellow

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 14:13
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: please help

Pardon me for asking, but I've been wonderring for a while.  Not that it 
matters in the least, I'm just curious.  By chance, what country are you 
from, my friend?

Chris.

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From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: please help


now i tried to restart my computer. but nothing is happening. i can't press 
restart or shut down.
> On 15 Jun 2015, at 6:45 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>
> Hmmm.  If you've used iMovie, then there should be plists relating to it. 
> In fact, there should be at least two of them.  Oh well, if it's working 
> now, then no matter.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:41, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
>
> hi tim, i don't see that Plist on my preferences folder. i already stop 
> for awhile using imovie. now i am using the tune in radio on mac. it also 
> mal function everything on my mac. but now seems all fix now. i don't know 
> what really happened.
>> On 15 Jun 2015, at 6:29 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I doubt that it's a virus of any sort.  If it was, you would be having 
>> more than just issues with image.  You may wish to get rid of the iMovie 
>> pList file from your Preferences and see if this reset clears any issues.
>>
>> • Go to the Finder.
>> • Up to Go in the menubar.
>> • With VO keys pressed, go down to the Library item, then press return.
>> • navigate to the Preferences folder.
>> • look through the list for the com.apple.iMovie.plist file and Trash it.
>>
>> When you open iMovie the next time it should rebuild that pList file and 
>> see how things go from there.
>>
>> Later...
>>
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:23, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>>
>> ok, does it safe to upgrade the program?
>>> On 15 Jun 2015, at 6:19 pm, george b  wrote:
>>>
>>> clamXav
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas 
>>> Herrera
>>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 09:17
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: please help
>>>
>>> there's is no ClamSave on apps store, can you please type in correct 
>>> name of it.
 On 15 Jun 2015, at 6:10 pm, Matthew Dierckens  
 wrote:

 Hello,
 May I suggest run nicking a scan of your mac with ClamSave?
 It is free on the app store.

 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
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 On Jun 15, 2015, at 12:03, Dionipher Presas Herrera 
  wrote:

 i already did that, i also reset pRam. i don't know what happen. why is 
 this happening to my mac.
> On 15 Jun 2015, at 6:01 pm, george b  wrote:
>
> You should do a  disk repair
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas 
> Herrera
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 08:57
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: please help
>
> Good day to all, i need a solutions on my computer, i thought it was 
> iMovie, now i think the computer itself have a virus. how come i got 
> it, i don't know i didn't even install anything except for pro tools 
> 11 trial version. now i deleted it. but before that i already noticing 
> that every time i use imovie i cant use most of my commands. like 
> going to the menu. now i am having problem also mostly everything now. 
> can somebody help.
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Re: please help

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Pardon me for asking, but I've been wonderring for a while.  Not that it 
matters in the least, I'm just curious.  By chance, what country are you 
from, my friend?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dionipher Presas Herrera" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: please help


now i tried to restart my computer. but nothing is happening. i can't press 
restart or shut down.

On 15 Jun 2015, at 6:45 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hmmm.  If you've used iMovie, then there should be plists relating to it. 
In fact, there should be at least two of them.  Oh well, if it's working 
now, then no matter.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:41, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
wrote:


hi tim, i don't see that Plist on my preferences folder. i already stop 
for awhile using imovie. now i am using the tune in radio on mac. it also 
mal function everything on my mac. but now seems all fix now. i don't know 
what really happened.

On 15 Jun 2015, at 6:29 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

I doubt that it's a virus of any sort.  If it was, you would be having 
more than just issues with image.  You may wish to get rid of the iMovie 
pList file from your Preferences and see if this reset clears any issues.


• Go to the Finder.
• Up to Go in the menubar.
• With VO keys pressed, go down to the Library item, then press return.
• navigate to the Preferences folder.
• look through the list for the com.apple.iMovie.plist file and Trash it.

When you open iMovie the next time it should rebuild that pList file and 
see how things go from there.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:23, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
wrote:


ok, does it safe to upgrade the program?

On 15 Jun 2015, at 6:19 pm, george b  wrote:

clamXav


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas 
Herrera

Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 09:17
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: please help

there's is no ClamSave on apps store, can you please type in correct 
name of it.
On 15 Jun 2015, at 6:10 pm, Matthew Dierckens  
wrote:


Hello,
May I suggest run nicking a scan of your mac with ClamSave?
It is free on the app store.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
U.S. number: 573-401-1018
Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com

On Jun 15, 2015, at 12:03, Dionipher Presas Herrera 
 wrote:


i already did that, i also reset pRam. i don't know what happen. why is 
this happening to my mac.

On 15 Jun 2015, at 6:01 pm, george b  wrote:

You should do a  disk repair

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Good day to all, i need a solutions on my computer, i thought it was 
iMovie, now i think the computer itself have a virus. how come i got 
it, i don't know i didn't even install anything except for pro tools 
11 trial version. now i deleted it. but before that i already noticing 
that every time i use imovie i cant use most of my commands. like 
going to the menu. now i am having problem also mostly everything now. 
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Re: please help

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I'm curious where you got the trial of PT11.  To the best of my knowledge, 
the Avid web site only now has PT 12.  I could be wrong though.


Chris.

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Good day to all, i need a solutions on my computer, i thought it was iMovie, 
now i think the computer itself have a virus. how come i got it, i don't 
know i didn't even install anything except for pro tools 11 trial version. 
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Re: time for Apple to get a new default voice

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Actually Loquendo is available for mac  developpers but no one has integrated 
it into voiceover.
The same with espeak.
/A
> 16 jun 2015 kl. 20:23 skrev Devin Prater :
> 
> I do think eSpeak would be a good investment for Apple. They do, after all, 
> use other open source products or libraries don't they?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> As Jonathan mentioned a voice may not be prefered by someone but others may 
>> like it.
>> I would like for example to have espeak for mac intergrated into voiceover.
>> Or the loquendo voices which are really great.
>> This is something i have been telling apple but it might  be good to remind 
>> them.
>> /A
>>> 10 jun 2015 kl. 22:54 skrev Eileen >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I agree with you Jonathan. An official copy of Eloquence would be just fine 
>>> with me. I tried Ava and the responsiveness was sluggish in comparison to 
>>> Alex. Eventually, I needed to switch back to Alex. 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Eileen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Jonathan Mosen >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Christopher. I think it depends on the hearing loss. I've worked with 
 people for example with a hearing loss who find Alex unintelligible once 
 you go a little above the default rate, but who can have compact Daniel 
 cranked up remarkably fast.
 Personally I'd be delighted to have Eloquence on my Mac because Alex 
 mispronounces far too much for my liking. The moral of the story is the 
 more choice of TTS a screen reader company can offer, the better. Speech 
 is extremely subjective.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org 
> On 11/06/2015, at 6:28 am, christopher hallsworth 
> mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
> Might be coming next year . Seriously though, I don't ever want 
> Apple to remove Alex. He's fantastic for someone with moderately severe 
> to profound hearing loss which I have. The other voices included are 
> fine, but doesn't cut it like Alex.
>> On 10 Jun 2015, at 18:46, Shawn Krasniuk > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ray. I don't really want Apple to get rid of Alex. I lve the fact 
>> that he takes breaths and everything. I am with you on one thing though, 
>> I hope Apple considers making the Siri voices available in El Capitan. 
>> After all, you can get them for NVDA in Windows so why can't it be done 
>> on the Mac?
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent from my White MacBook
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Ray Foret Jr >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Subject line pretty much says it all.  Nothing against Alex mind you:  
>>> but, frankly, I reckon it's high time Apple adopted a new and much more 
>>> updated default voice.  The new Siri male US English voice might 
>>> perhaps be a good choice.  Here's hoping we see this one in Elcapitan.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> 
>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac,
>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>>> 
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Re: performing an option click on a control?

[christopher hallsworth]

Maybe it's because of a "minor" downgrade, i.e. 8.4 to 8.3 rather than 9 to 8.3.
> On 16 Jun 2015, at 16:31, Brett C.  wrote:
> 
> I was able to perform a downgrade from 8.4 back to 8.3 using option click, 
> without DFU. Do you have any idea why sometimes DEFU is necessary and other 
> instances it's not? 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 8:07 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>> 
>> It is not necessary either to be in DFU mode or to press shift+Space on 
>> Restore in order to install a new iOS beta build. The only time one needs to 
>> go about this is when downgrading from a beta to a previous build. This is 
>> all covered in my Testing Testing audio presentation for those who are 
>> interested.
>> The original poster has it correct, you can just Option-click the Check for 
>> Updates button, which brings up an open file dialog. And as has been said 
>> here by others, shift+Space on that button is a substitutes that works, in 
>> both Mac and Windows.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
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>> http://Mosen.org
>> 
>>> On 16/06/2015, at 11:28 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What does that do by option clicking check for update?  If you're trying to 
>>> put another version of I O S on your device, then you need to be option 
>>> clicking on the restore button, not the check for update button.  And, make 
>>> sure before you do this, that your device is in DFU mode.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Justin Mann" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:00 PM
>>> Subject: performing an option click on a control?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Has anybody ever been able to make option-click work on a control with 
>>> voiceover using the trackpad without having to turn off voiceover?
>>> I’m trying to option-click the “check for update” button in iTunes.
>>> Thanks
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Re: time for Apple to get a new default voice

[Devin Prater]

I do think eSpeak would be a good investment for Apple. They do, after all, use 
other open source products or libraries don't they?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> As Jonathan mentioned a voice may not be prefered by someone but others may 
> like it.
> I would like for example to have espeak for mac intergrated into voiceover.
> Or the loquendo voices which are really great.
> This is something i have been telling apple but it might  be good to remind 
> them.
> /A
>> 10 jun 2015 kl. 22:54 skrev Eileen :
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I agree with you Jonathan. An official copy of Eloquence would be just fine 
>> with me. I tried Ava and the responsiveness was sluggish in comparison to 
>> Alex. Eventually, I needed to switch back to Alex. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Eileen
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Christopher. I think it depends on the hearing loss. I've worked with 
>>> people for example with a hearing loss who find Alex unintelligible once 
>>> you go a little above the default rate, but who can have compact Daniel 
>>> cranked up remarkably fast.
>>> Personally I'd be delighted to have Eloquence on my Mac because Alex 
>>> mispronounces far too much for my liking. The moral of the story is the 
>>> more choice of TTS a screen reader company can offer, the better. Speech is 
>>> extremely subjective.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org
>>> 
> On 11/06/2015, at 6:28 am, christopher hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
> Might be coming next year . Seriously though, I don't ever want 
> Apple to remove Alex. He's fantastic for someone with moderately severe 
> to profound hearing loss which I have. The other voices included are 
> fine, but doesn't cut it like Alex.
> On 10 Jun 2015, at 18:46, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ray. I don't really want Apple to get rid of Alex. I lve the fact that 
> he takes breaths and everything. I am with you on one thing though, I 
> hope Apple considers making the Siri voices available in El Capitan. 
> After all, you can get them for NVDA in Windows so why can't it be done 
> on the Mac?
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my White MacBook
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Ray Foret Jr  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Subject line pretty much says it all.  Nothing against Alex mind you:  
>> but, frankly, I reckon it's high time Apple adopted a new and much more 
>> updated default voice.  The new Siri male US English voice might perhaps 
>> be a good choice.  Here's hoping we see this one in Elcapitan.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> 
>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac,
>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>> 
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Re: performing an option click on a control?

[Jonathan Mosen]

Yes, You're right. Normally it in fact should be possible, if you do a full 
restore and are able to disable Find my iPhone OK.
My memory got a bit clouded because last week I got myself into a state where 
DFU mode was the only way out. It's certainly useful to know about DFU mode in 
case that kind of thing occurs.
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> On 17/06/2015, at 3:31 am, Brett C.  wrote:
> 
> I was able to perform a downgrade from 8.4 back to 8.3 using option click, 
> without DFU. Do you have any idea why sometimes DEFU is necessary and other 
> instances it's not? 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 8:07 AM, Jonathan Mosen > > wrote:
>> 
>> It is not necessary either to be in DFU mode or to press shift+Space on 
>> Restore in order to install a new iOS beta build. The only time one needs to 
>> go about this is when downgrading from a beta to a previous build. This is 
>> all covered in my Testing Testing audio presentation for those who are 
>> interested.
>> The original poster has it correct, you can just Option-click the Check for 
>> Updates button, which brings up an open file dialog. And as has been said 
>> here by others, shift+Space on that button is a substitutes that works, in 
>> both Mac and Windows.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org 
>>> On 16/06/2015, at 11:28 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> What does that do by option clicking check for update?  If you're trying to 
>>> put another version of I O S on your device, then you need to be option 
>>> clicking on the restore button, not the check for update button.  And, make 
>>> sure before you do this, that your device is in DFU mode.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Justin Mann" >> >
>>> To: >> >
>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:00 PM
>>> Subject: performing an option click on a control?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Has anybody ever been able to make option-click work on a control with 
>>> voiceover using the trackpad without having to turn off voiceover?
>>> I’m trying to option-click the “check for update” button in iTunes.
>>> Thanks
>>> 
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Re: I can't find my VMware fusion 7 download

[Ted Phillips]

Thanks, I got it.  I really appreciate the help.
> On Jun 16, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> If you have your VMWare product key, then you can simply download the 
> binaries from the VMWare site.  Here’s a link to the Fusion 7 downloads:
> https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_fusion/7_0
> 
> It used to be the case that you also had to log in with your VMWare account 
> credentials—those you used to purchase the product with—but that no longer 
> appears to be the case, for whatever reason.  Hopefully I’m no exception.
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Re: weird issue: iTunes annoumcenets

[Alex Hall]

Probably a notification. Open your Notification Center (it's in the Extras 
menus, or do a 2-finger swipe left with TrackPad Commander off). Find the 
Preferences button near the end of the resulting window and press it. In the 
System Preferences panel that appears, find iTunes in the list of apps, and use 
the radio buttons to select "None" for the notification style. That should stop 
it from speaking, but use the "include in Notification Center" checkbox if you 
don't want these items cluttering up your notifications at all.
> On Jun 16, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I’m sorry for the multiple questions. I’m starting to use my Mac more because 
> everyone at my job uses them and it’s security policy yada yada. I am a bad 
> employee though and listen to music while I work. For whatever reason 
> Voiceover seems to want to announce the name/artest of a song every time it 
> changes. is there a way to disable that?
> 
> thanks,
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weird issue: iTunes annoumcenets

[Littlefield, Tyler]

Hey all,

I’m sorry for the multiple questions. I’m starting to use my Mac more because 
everyone at my job uses them and it’s security policy yada yada. I am a bad 
employee though and listen to music while I work. For whatever reason Voiceover 
seems to want to announce the name/artest of a song every time it changes. is 
there a way to disable that?

thanks,

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Re: I can't find my VMware fusion 7 download

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

If you have your VMWare product key, then you can simply download the binaries 
from the VMWare site.  Here’s a link to the Fusion 7 downloads:
https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_fusion/7_0

It used to be the case that you also had to log in with your VMWare account 
credentials—those you used to purchase the product with—but that no longer 
appears to be the case, for whatever reason.  Hopefully I’m no exception.

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Re: Mission Control Was: disabling ctrl+left and right in vmware fusion

[Alex Hall]

It's a way to get an overview of all your desktops and open apps. It shows 
every window open in every app, for instance, so you can go right to that 
window without switching to the app and using cmd-accent a bunch of times. I 
never use Mission Control personally, but it can come in handy if you have tons 
of windows open and don't want to cmd-tab and cmd-accent a lot of times. 
Granted, Mission Control may end up being as many keystrokes; you have to bring 
it up, interact with the group of apps/windows, then vo-arrow to the one you 
want. First letter navigation doesn't even do anything in there, unfortunately.
> On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Shaf  wrote:
> 
> Can somebody explain what exactly Mission Control is for and if it's really 
> any use to us VoiceOver users?
> 
> On 6/16/2015 3:55 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
>> Hello:
>> 
>> Thanks a lot, that worked fine. I’m totally happy with disabling mission 
>> control stuff. :)
>> 
>> Thanks again, really appreciate the help.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's a system-wide shortcut, one VMWare may not be able to intercept in 
>>> time. My only solution--and there may be better ones, as I'm not a VMWare 
>>> user--is to disable it completely.
>>> 
>>> In System Preferences, choose Keyboard, then the Shortcuts tab. Select the 
>>> Mission Control category in the first table, and you should find a bunch of 
>>> control-arrow shortcuts in the second table. Disable any you wish by using 
>>> the checkbox next to each one; the ones you're after are move left/right 
>>> one space.
 On Jun 16, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Littlefield, Tyler >>> > wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I’m working with windows in Fusion as well as trying to help a friend. She 
 ran into an issue where ctrl+left/right switches between windows. Is there 
 a way to turn this off so that NVDA will navigate word by word instead?
 
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Mission Control Was: disabling ctrl+left and right in vmware fusion

[Shaf]

Can somebody explain what exactly Mission Control is for and if it's 
really any use to us VoiceOver users?


On 6/16/2015 3:55 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:

Hello:

Thanks a lot, that worked fine. I’m totally happy with disabling 
mission control stuff. :)


Thanks again, really appreciate the help.


On Jun 16, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Alex Hall > wrote:


That's a system-wide shortcut, one VMWare may not be able to 
intercept in time. My only solution--and there may be better ones, as 
I'm not a VMWare user--is to disable it completely.


In System Preferences, choose Keyboard, then the Shortcuts tab. 
Select the Mission Control category in the first table, and you 
should find a bunch of control-arrow shortcuts in the second table. 
Disable any you wish by using the checkbox next to each one; the ones 
you're after are move left/right one space.
On Jun 16, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Littlefield, Tyler 
mailto:ty...@tysdomain.com>> wrote:


Hello all,

I’m working with windows in Fusion as well as trying to help a 
friend. She ran into an issue where ctrl+left/right switches between 
windows. Is there a way to turn this off so that NVDA will navigate 
word by word instead?


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Re: performing an option click on a control?

[Brett C.]

I was able to perform a downgrade from 8.4 back to 8.3 using option click, 
without DFU. Do you have any idea why sometimes DEFU is necessary and other 
instances it's not? 


> On Jun 16, 2015, at 8:07 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> It is not necessary either to be in DFU mode or to press shift+Space on 
> Restore in order to install a new iOS beta build. The only time one needs to 
> go about this is when downgrading from a beta to a previous build. This is 
> all covered in my Testing Testing audio presentation for those who are 
> interested.
> The original poster has it correct, you can just Option-click the Check for 
> Updates button, which brings up an open file dialog. And as has been said 
> here by others, shift+Space on that button is a substitutes that works, in 
> both Mac and Windows.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
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>> On 16/06/2015, at 11:28 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland > > wrote:
>> 
>> What does that do by option clicking check for update?  If you're trying to 
>> put another version of I O S on your device, then you need to be option 
>> clicking on the restore button, not the check for update button.  And, make 
>> sure before you do this, that your device is in DFU mode.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Justin Mann" > >
>> To: > >
>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:00 PM
>> Subject: performing an option click on a control?
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Has anybody ever been able to make option-click work on a control with 
>> voiceover using the trackpad without having to turn off voiceover?
>> I’m trying to option-click the “check for update” button in iTunes.
>> Thanks
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Re: disabling ctrl+left and right in vmware fusion

[Littlefield, Tyler]

Hello:

Thanks a lot, that worked fine. I’m totally happy with disabling mission 
control stuff. :)

Thanks again, really appreciate the help.


> On Jun 16, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> That's a system-wide shortcut, one VMWare may not be able to intercept in 
> time. My only solution--and there may be better ones, as I'm not a VMWare 
> user--is to disable it completely.
> 
> In System Preferences, choose Keyboard, then the Shortcuts tab. Select the 
> Mission Control category in the first table, and you should find a bunch of 
> control-arrow shortcuts in the second table. Disable any you wish by using 
> the checkbox next to each one; the ones you're after are move left/right one 
> space.
>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Littlefield, Tyler > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I’m working with windows in Fusion as well as trying to help a friend. She 
>> ran into an issue where ctrl+left/right switches between windows. Is there a 
>> way to turn this off so that NVDA will navigate word by word instead?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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I can't find my VMware fusion 7 download

[Ted Phillips]

Hi all.  Last night, I bought VMware fusion 7 so I could run windows on my mac 
while still having my mac active.  The problem I’m having is that I can’t seem 
to find the download link for VMware fusion 7.  I don’t know if I’m just dense 
or overlooking something or if it’s due to my inexperience, but I’m sure having 
trouble finding and getting the download.  If someone can advise me on this, it 
would sure be appreciated.

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Re: disabling ctrl+left and right in vmware fusion

[Alex Hall]

That's a system-wide shortcut, one VMWare may not be able to intercept in time. 
My only solution--and there may be better ones, as I'm not a VMWare user--is to 
disable it completely.

In System Preferences, choose Keyboard, then the Shortcuts tab. Select the 
Mission Control category in the first table, and you should find a bunch of 
control-arrow shortcuts in the second table. Disable any you wish by using the 
checkbox next to each one; the ones you're after are move left/right one space.
> On Jun 16, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I’m working with windows in Fusion as well as trying to help a friend. She 
> ran into an issue where ctrl+left/right switches between windows. Is there a 
> way to turn this off so that NVDA will navigate word by word instead?
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: Taking Video for Youtube

[Phil Halton]

I've mostly been recording acoustic instruments, so I get the mic right up to 
the sound hole, or the resonator, etc. certain demo videos on YouTube have 
suggested that you really got a "eat them like" to get a good clean sound.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jun 16, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Regarding the snowball, how then did you manage to get the thing close enough 
> to your mouth?  Did you use the stand that comes with it?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 9:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Taking Video for Youtube
> 
> 
> Yes I do, I use my MacBook air for the camera, and I have an external 
> snowball blue Snowball microphone.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Do you record from your computer, Phil?
>> 
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2015, at 7:27 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Brandon, currently I'm using the built in QuickTime app to do all my video 
>>> recording. You can then just upload the video clips to YouTube from within 
>>> the app if you desire. As far as an auto position and you in the frame, I'm 
>>> sorry to say you can forget about that. I have a little bit of site and I 
>>> always take a few test shots to see if I'm in the frame or not. If you can 
>>> get some cited assistance they can help you get in the frame, and then you 
>>> can remember to wear your position, distance from the computer height of 
>>> your seat etc. That's how I do it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
  wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 A few questions. I’d like to record video to upload to Youtube. What’s the 
 best application to use for this?
 
 Secondly, on a more practical note, is there a way I can do this 
 independently, and yet make sure it’s capturing my face, and not like the 
 top of my head or something? I know it won’t be perfect, being blind, but 
 would like to make it as good as possible. Any other recommendations would 
 be appreciated as well.
 
 Peace,
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walmart site

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi all!
I was just on the walmart site with my mac and found it to be almost unusable.  
I can't do a search and when I do find something it takes me to a table I can't 
navigate.
Has anybody else had any trouble with this site?  any settings I might try?
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disabling ctrl+left and right in vmware fusion

[Littlefield, Tyler]

Hello all,

I’m working with windows in Fusion as well as trying to help a friend. She ran 
into an issue where ctrl+left/right switches between windows. Is there a way to 
turn this off so that NVDA will navigate word by word instead?

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Re: performing an option click on a control?

[Jonathan Mosen]

It is not necessary either to be in DFU mode or to press shift+Space on Restore 
in order to install a new iOS beta build. The only time one needs to go about 
this is when downgrading from a beta to a previous build. This is all covered 
in my Testing Testing audio presentation for those who are interested.
The original poster has it correct, you can just Option-click the Check for 
Updates button, which brings up an open file dialog. And as has been said here 
by others, shift+Space on that button is a substitutes that works, in both Mac 
and Windows.
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> On 16/06/2015, at 11:28 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> What does that do by option clicking check for update?  If you're trying to 
> put another version of I O S on your device, then you need to be option 
> clicking on the restore button, not the check for update button.  And, make 
> sure before you do this, that your device is in DFU mode.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Justin Mann" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:00 PM
> Subject: performing an option click on a control?
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> Has anybody ever been able to make option-click work on a control with 
> voiceover using the trackpad without having to turn off voiceover?
> I’m trying to option-click the “check for update” button in iTunes.
> Thanks
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Re: safari doesn't open

[Alex Hall]

Also, does it let you quit? Probably not, if it's busy. If it doesn't, use 
option-cmd-escape to force quit Safari, then open it again. It's possible it 
just choked on something the one time you tried to open it, and it hasn't been 
able to close since so it can try again.
> On Jun 16, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Shaf  wrote:
> 
> Could be your plugins, how many of them have you installed recently?
> 
> On 6/16/2015 1:27 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
>> Hi,
>> when I try and run safari on my 2013 macbook air, it sort of opens, but I 
>> can’t do anything with it.  If I command tab into the safari window, it says 
>> safari busy, but it just sits there and doesn’t fully open.
>> 
>> I recently had to reinstall the OS, which I did on a clean disk.
>> 
>> I have already repaired disk permissions and veriffied the disk, etc.
>> 
>> what can I do now, besides trying a fresh install again?
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Caitlyn
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Re: safari doesn't open

[Shaf]

Could be your plugins, how many of them have you installed recently?

On 6/16/2015 1:27 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:

Hi,
when I try and run safari on my 2013 macbook air, it sort of opens, but I can’t 
do anything with it.  If I command tab into the safari window, it says safari 
busy, but it just sits there and doesn’t fully open.

I recently had to reinstall the OS, which I did on a clean disk.

I have already repaired disk permissions and veriffied the disk, etc.

what can I do now, besides trying a fresh install again?

thanks,
Caitlyn



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safari doesn't open

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
when I try and run safari on my 2013 macbook air, it sort of opens, but I can’t 
do anything with it.  If I command tab into the safari window, it says safari 
busy, but it just sits there and doesn’t fully open.

I recently had to reinstall the OS, which I did on a clean disk.

I have already repaired disk permissions and veriffied the disk, etc.

what can I do now, besides trying a fresh install again?

thanks,
Caitlyn

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Re: Taking Video for Youtube

[Caitlyn Furness]

What does this screen flow do?

thanks!
Caitlyn

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> I just use Screenflow.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
>> 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 7:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: Taking Video for Youtube
>> 
>> good advice but don't forget someone can help you with setting the camera 
>> via Skype. they don't have to be in the room with you. my friend robin did 
>> that with me. we figured out how i should set my laptop whether i was 
>> sitting at a table in a chair or leaning back. i love quick time. its much 
>> more basic. you press record and then stop. what i like to do is record 
>> several small videos as its easier to get them right than recording one long 
>> video. then i use the add clip feature in the edit menu. when i have all the 
>> clips tied together I go to files and do an export. then i have one whole 
>> movie file. as for youtube i record in hd but then i do a second export to 
>> 480 p because it doesn't hurt the viewer's ability to enjoy the video and it 
>> allows for much quicker uploads and smoother playing on mobile devices. the 
>> window is about 530 380 . hope this helps, max 
>> 
>> 
>> Maxwell Ivey Jr.
>> 
>> phone 979-215-1770
>> 
>> Skype Maxwell Ivey
>> 
>> twitter @maxwellivey
>> 
>> as mr. midway
>> 
>> www.midwaymarketplace.com 
>> 
>> email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com 
>> 
>> as the blind blogger 
>> 
>> www.theblindblogger.net 
>> 
>> email just...@theblindblogger.net 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 14, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>> 
>>> Brandon, currently I'm using the built in QuickTime app to do all my video 
>>> recording. You can then just upload the video clips to YouTube from within 
>>> the app if you desire. As far as an auto position and you in the frame, I'm 
>>> sorry to say you can forget about that. I have a little bit of site and I 
>>> always take a few test shots to see if I'm in the frame or not. If you can 
>>> get some cited assistance they can help you get in the frame, and then you 
>>> can remember to wear your position, distance from the computer height of 
>>> your seat etc. That's how I do it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Brandon A. Olivares >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 A few questions. I’d like to record video to upload to Youtube. What’s the 
 best application to use for this?
 
 Secondly, on a more practical note, is there a way I can do this 
 independently, and yet make sure it’s capturing my face, and not like the 
 top of my head or something? I know it won’t be perfect, being blind, but 
 would like to make it as good as possible. Any other recommendations would 
 be appreciated as well.
 
 Peace,
 Brandon
 
 
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Re: Installing a virtual mac under Vmware

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

You can tell VMWare not to send system shortcuts through to the guest, and also 
which Command key will be used for host and which for guest.  I’ve definitely 
got this working in the past to do an OS X guest, so I know it’s possible, it’s 
just a wee bit fiddly, is all.

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Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

So did I.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.


Oh, I see. I thought you had to use the restore option in iTunes to get it
on there.
- Original Message - 
From: "John D. Lipsey" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.


No, when you install the beta version of iOS anything, it’s just like
installing a public nonbeta release. You can install it without removing any
content, as long as you choose to update to, rather than restore to the beta
version.

The only time you have to erase the device is if you wish to downgrade from
the beta back to the current publically available version.

Hope that helps.

DFTBA!

John D. Lipsey

mail: johnl1...@gmail.com

Twitter: @J_TGL


On Jun 14, 2015, at 17:17, Brent Harding  wrote:

The thing with the betas though, don't you have to wipe everything out to 
even install them? I will probably wait until July when the public beta is 
released, if I install the beta at all, but as far as I understood, when 
you load it through iTunes, it is also factory resetting your device. I 
kind of did wonder, as far as Apple Pay goes, if the bank knows when you 
deleted your card, to free up that device slot, if there is a limit on how 
many you can activate?


- Original Message - From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 


To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.


Could be, but I still think it's a bit misleading.  Call me maybe a bit 
picky on samantics, but, whatever.


LOL!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 


To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.


I think Apple is covering their backs so developers can't complain or 
even sue Apple for bricking their devices.
On 13 Jun 2015, at 19:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Whatever George.

Chris.


- Original Message -
From: george b
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

So why do you have to ust that language does it make you some kind of a 
man???


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
Gilland

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 04:54
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

Guys,

I just wanted to clear up some miscommunication by Apple.  They say on 
the developer web site that once you upgrade to I O S 9, you cannot go 
back to a previous version, like 8.3.  That's utter bullshit from what 
so far I can see.  Now, I wanna make this very very clear.  I am saying 
this on the basis of! from what I so? far! can see!  Keep that in mind.


I have an I O S device which I did update to I O S 9.  I've changed my 
mind, and now am deciding not to deploy it to I O S 9 after all.  OK, I 
have a device I will! be keeping on I O S 9, just not this particular 
one.  Anyway, the point is, they are only partially right in what 
they're saying on their web site from what it seems.


1.  If you try to downgrade while your device is normally booted up 
into I O S 9, then no.  It won't work.  That is factually accurate 
information which I have verified.


2.  If, however Apple has not stopped digitally signing the previous 
version of I O S, which of corse, 8.3, they haven't, then you can get 
it back as long as before you restore the device, you first get the 
device into DFU mode, just as you did when you upgraded to I O S 9.  I 
tried this, and I O S 8.3 definitely now is downloading.  I'll keep you 
all posted, and let you all know if I'm able to flash it back, and 
restore from my backup.  To the best of my knowledge though, this seems 
to so far be working.


Chris.
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Re: Taking Video for Youtube

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Regarding the snowball, how then did you manage to get the thing close 
enough to your mouth?  Did you use the stand that comes with it?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Halton" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Taking Video for Youtube


Yes I do, I use my MacBook air for the camera, and I have an external 
snowball blue Snowball microphone.


Sent from my IPhone


On Jun 14, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
wrote:


Do you record from your computer, Phil?

Caitlyn


On Jun 14, 2015, at 7:27 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

Brandon, currently I'm using the built in QuickTime app to do all my 
video recording. You can then just upload the video clips to YouTube from 
within the app if you desire. As far as an auto position and you in the 
frame, I'm sorry to say you can forget about that. I have a little bit of 
site and I always take a few test shots to see if I'm in the frame or 
not. If you can get some cited assistance they can help you get in the 
frame, and then you can remember to wear your position, distance from the 
computer height of your seat etc. That's how I do it.


Sent from my IPhone


On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
 wrote:


Hi everyone,

A few questions. I’d like to record video to upload to Youtube. What’s 
the best application to use for this?


Secondly, on a more practical note, is there a way I can do this 
independently, and yet make sure it’s capturing my face, and not like 
the top of my head or something? I know it won’t be perfect, being 
blind, but would like to make it as good as possible. Any other 
recommendations would be appreciated as well.


Peace,
Brandon


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Re: Taking Video for Youtube

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I have a studio mike, but I don't have an extra stand I could put it in, and 
even if I did, I really don't want to be moving that mike any more than 
necessary, lest I pop the ribbon.  This is a Noemen (or however that's spelled, 
sorry,) ribbon mike.  Definitely not something I want to break, considerred a 
church donated it to me, and this sucker from reading online normally ran 
around $5000.  NO, I didn't say 500, I said $5000.  Suffice it to say, I feel 
so blessed and greatful to have this thing!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brandon A. Olivares 
  To: “Mac Visionaries“ 
  Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 8:59 PM
  Subject: Re: Taking Video for Youtube


  My earphones have a built-in mic which is of sufficient quality for what I’m 
doing.

On Jun 14, 2015, at 8:43 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
wrote:


So, do you guys also use an external mike, like a blue snowball or 
something, or just the internal mike on the mac?


Cait


  On Jun 14, 2015, at 7:41 PM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


  good advice but don't forget someone can help you with setting the camera 
via Skype. they don't have to be in the room with you. my friend robin did that 
with me. we figured out how i should set my laptop whether i was sitting at a 
table in a chair or leaning back. i love quick time. its much more basic. you 
press record and then stop. what i like to do is record several small videos as 
its easier to get them right than recording one long video. then i use the add 
clip feature in the edit menu. when i have all the clips tied together I go to 
files and do an export. then i have one whole movie file. as for youtube i 
record in hd but then i do a second export to 480 p because it doesn't hurt the 
viewer's ability to enjoy the video and it allows for much quicker uploads and 
smoother playing on mobile devices. the window is about 530 380 . hope this 
helps, max 



  Maxwell Ivey Jr.


  phone 979-215-1770


  Skype Maxwell Ivey


  twitter @maxwellivey


  as mr. midway


  www.midwaymarketplace.com


  email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com


  as the blind blogger 


  www.theblindblogger.net


  email just...@theblindblogger.net






  On Jun 14, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Phil Halton wrote:


Brandon, currently I'm using the built in QuickTime app to do all my 
video recording. You can then just upload the video clips to YouTube from 
within the app if you desire. As far as an auto position and you in the frame, 
I'm sorry to say you can forget about that. I have a little bit of site and I 
always take a few test shots to see if I'm in the frame or not. If you can get 
some cited assistance they can help you get in the frame, and then you can 
remember to wear your position, distance from the computer height of your seat 
etc. That's how I do it.

Sent from my IPhone



  On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
 wrote:



  Hi everyone,



  A few questions. I’d like to record video to upload to Youtube. 
What’s the best application to use for this?



  Secondly, on a more practical note, is there a way I can do this 
independently, and yet make sure it’s capturing my face, and not like the top 
of my head or something? I know it won’t be perfect, being blind, but would 
like to make it as good as possible. Any other recommendations would be 
appreciated as well.



  Peace,

  Brandon





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Re: Taking Video for Youtube

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I've done both.  I love my blue snowball!  The only thing about it I don't like 
is the little stand that comes with it is so short that I'm gonna probably now 
need to buy a stand that can sit on the desk which is a little taller.  Plus, 
I'd like something with a boom arm that would bring the mike closer to my 
mouth.  Don't get me wrong.  The switch on the back left side, when flipped to 
the 3rd position all the way to the right will turn off all padding, which 
makes it quite sensitive, but, it's not as good as just sitting with the mike 
six inches or so in front of you.  Trust me.  It still sounds like I'm off at a 
distance, which is not the sound I want.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Caitlyn Furness 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 8:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Taking Video for Youtube


  So, do you guys also use an external mike, like a blue snowball or something, 
or just the internal mike on the mac?


  Cait


On Jun 14, 2015, at 7:41 PM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


good advice but don't forget someone can help you with setting the camera 
via Skype. they don't have to be in the room with you. my friend robin did that 
with me. we figured out how i should set my laptop whether i was sitting at a 
table in a chair or leaning back. i love quick time. its much more basic. you 
press record and then stop. what i like to do is record several small videos as 
its easier to get them right than recording one long video. then i use the add 
clip feature in the edit menu. when i have all the clips tied together I go to 
files and do an export. then i have one whole movie file. as for youtube i 
record in hd but then i do a second export to 480 p because it doesn't hurt the 
viewer's ability to enjoy the video and it allows for much quicker uploads and 
smoother playing on mobile devices. the window is about 530 380 . hope this 
helps, max 



Maxwell Ivey Jr.


phone 979-215-1770


Skype Maxwell Ivey


twitter @maxwellivey


as mr. midway


www.midwaymarketplace.com


email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com


as the blind blogger 


www.theblindblogger.net


email just...@theblindblogger.net






On Jun 14, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Phil Halton wrote:


  Brandon, currently I'm using the built in QuickTime app to do all my 
video recording. You can then just upload the video clips to YouTube from 
within the app if you desire. As far as an auto position and you in the frame, 
I'm sorry to say you can forget about that. I have a little bit of site and I 
always take a few test shots to see if I'm in the frame or not. If you can get 
some cited assistance they can help you get in the frame, and then you can 
remember to wear your position, distance from the computer height of your seat 
etc. That's how I do it.

  Sent from my IPhone



On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
 wrote:



Hi everyone,



A few questions. I’d like to record video to upload to Youtube. What’s 
the best application to use for this?



Secondly, on a more practical note, is there a way I can do this 
independently, and yet make sure it’s capturing my face, and not like the top 
of my head or something? I know it won’t be perfect, being blind, but would 
like to make it as good as possible. Any other recommendations would be 
appreciated as well.



Peace,

Brandon





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Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

You wrote:

The only time you have to erase the device is if you wish to downgrade from 
the beta back to the current publically available version.


And even then, you can usually get back where you were, if you were smart, 
and made a backup before updating.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "John D. Lipsey" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.


No, when you install the beta version of iOS anything, it’s just like 
installing a public nonbeta release. You can install it without removing any 
content, as long as you choose to update to, rather than restore to the beta 
version.


The only time you have to erase the device is if you wish to downgrade from 
the beta back to the current publically available version.


Hope that helps.

DFTBA!

John D. Lipsey

mail: johnl1...@gmail.com

Twitter: @J_TGL


On Jun 14, 2015, at 17:17, Brent Harding  wrote:

The thing with the betas though, don't you have to wipe everything out to 
even install them? I will probably wait until July when the public beta is 
released, if I install the beta at all, but as far as I understood, when 
you load it through iTunes, it is also factory resetting your device. I 
kind of did wonder, as far as Apple Pay goes, if the bank knows when you 
deleted your card, to free up that device slot, if there is a limit on how 
many you can activate?


- Original Message - From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 


To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.


Could be, but I still think it's a bit misleading.  Call me maybe a bit 
picky on samantics, but, whatever.


LOL!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 


To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.


I think Apple is covering their backs so developers can't complain or 
even sue Apple for bricking their devices.
On 13 Jun 2015, at 19:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Whatever George.

Chris.


- Original Message -
From: george b
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

So why do you have to ust that language does it make you some kind of a 
man???


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
Gilland

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 04:54
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

Guys,

I just wanted to clear up some miscommunication by Apple.  They say on 
the developer web site that once you upgrade to I O S 9, you cannot go 
back to a previous version, like 8.3.  That's utter bullshit from what 
so far I can see.  Now, I wanna make this very very clear.  I am saying 
this on the basis of! from what I so? far! can see!  Keep that in mind.


I have an I O S device which I did update to I O S 9.  I've changed my 
mind, and now am deciding not to deploy it to I O S 9 after all.  OK, I 
have a device I will! be keeping on I O S 9, just not this particular 
one.  Anyway, the point is, they are only partially right in what 
they're saying on their web site from what it seems.


1.  If you try to downgrade while your device is normally booted up 
into I O S 9, then no.  It won't work.  That is factually accurate 
information which I have verified.


2.  If, however Apple has not stopped digitally signing the previous 
version of I O S, which of corse, 8.3, they haven't, then you can get 
it back as long as before you restore the device, you first get the 
device into DFU mode, just as you did when you upgraded to I O S 9.  I 
tried this, and I O S 8.3 definitely now is downloading.  I'll keep you 
all posted, and let you all know if I'm able to flash it back, and 
restore from my backup.  To the best of my knowledge though, this seems 
to so far be working.


Chris.
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Re: Taking Video for Youtube

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I just use Screenflow.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 7:41 PM
  Subject: Re: Taking Video for Youtube


  good advice but don't forget someone can help you with setting the camera via 
Skype. they don't have to be in the room with you. my friend robin did that 
with me. we figured out how i should set my laptop whether i was sitting at a 
table in a chair or leaning back. i love quick time. its much more basic. you 
press record and then stop. what i like to do is record several small videos as 
its easier to get them right than recording one long video. then i use the add 
clip feature in the edit menu. when i have all the clips tied together I go to 
files and do an export. then i have one whole movie file. as for youtube i 
record in hd but then i do a second export to 480 p because it doesn't hurt the 
viewer's ability to enjoy the video and it allows for much quicker uploads and 
smoother playing on mobile devices. the window is about 530 380 . hope this 
helps, max 



  Maxwell Ivey Jr.


  phone 979-215-1770


  Skype Maxwell Ivey


  twitter @maxwellivey


  as mr. midway


  www.midwaymarketplace.com


  email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com


  as the blind blogger 


  www.theblindblogger.net


  email just...@theblindblogger.net






  On Jun 14, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Phil Halton wrote:


Brandon, currently I'm using the built in QuickTime app to do all my video 
recording. You can then just upload the video clips to YouTube from within the 
app if you desire. As far as an auto position and you in the frame, I'm sorry 
to say you can forget about that. I have a little bit of site and I always take 
a few test shots to see if I'm in the frame or not. If you can get some cited 
assistance they can help you get in the frame, and then you can remember to 
wear your position, distance from the computer height of your seat etc. That's 
how I do it.

Sent from my IPhone



  On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
 wrote:



  Hi everyone,



  A few questions. I’d like to record video to upload to Youtube. What’s 
the best application to use for this?



  Secondly, on a more practical note, is there a way I can do this 
independently, and yet make sure it’s capturing my face, and not like the top 
of my head or something? I know it won’t be perfect, being blind, but would 
like to make it as good as possible. Any other recommendations would be 
appreciated as well.



  Peace,

  Brandon





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Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Brent,

My bank unfortunately doesn't yet offer Apple Pay, so I've lamentably not 
gotten the ability to try it out yet, which really stinks, but, oh well.  As 
for your assumption with it wiping the device, yes, it does, but that being 
said, if you first make a backup before you go flashing I O S 9, or whatever 
versin, as long as you're going to a more recent version, then the backup 
should work.  Like, if you're on 8.3, and are going to 9, an 8.3 backup 
should restore just fine on I O S 9.  On the other hand though, if you try 
restoring a backup made within 9 to 8.3, I don't know that that would work.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.


The thing with the betas though, don't you have to wipe everything out to 
even install them? I will probably wait until July when the public beta is 
released, if I install the beta at all, but as far as I understood, when 
you load it through iTunes, it is also factory resetting your device. I 
kind of did wonder, as far as Apple Pay goes, if the bank knows when you 
deleted your card, to free up that device slot, if there is a limit on how 
many you can activate?


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.


Could be, but I still think it's a bit misleading.  Call me maybe a bit 
picky on samantics, but, whatever.


LOL!

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.


I think Apple is covering their backs so developers can't complain or 
even sue Apple for bricking their devices.
On 13 Jun 2015, at 19:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Whatever George.

Chris.


- Original Message -
From: george b
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

So why do you have to ust that language does it make you some kind of a 
man???


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
Gilland

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 04:54
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bull crap about I O S 9, and no, I'm not breaking NDA.

Guys,

I just wanted to clear up some miscommunication by Apple.  They say on 
the developer web site that once you upgrade to I O S 9, you cannot go 
back to a previous version, like 8.3.  That's utter bullshit from what 
so far I can see.  Now, I wanna make this very very clear.  I am saying 
this on the basis of! from what I so? far! can see!  Keep that in mind.


I have an I O S device which I did update to I O S 9.  I've changed my 
mind, and now am deciding not to deploy it to I O S 9 after all.  OK, I 
have a device I will! be keeping on I O S 9, just not this particular 
one.  Anyway, the point is, they are only partially right in what 
they're saying on their web site from what it seems.


1.  If you try to downgrade while your device is normally booted up 
into I O S 9, then no.  It won't work.  That is factually accurate 
information which I have verified.


2.  If, however Apple has not stopped digitally signing the previous 
version of I O S, which of corse, 8.3, they haven't, then you can get 
it back as long as before you restore the device, you first get the 
device into DFU mode, just as you did when you upgraded to I O S 9.  I 
tried this, and I O S 8.3 definitely now is downloading.  I'll keep you 
all posted, and let you all know if I'm able to flash it back, and 
restore from my backup.  To the best of my knowledge though, this seems 
to so far be working.


Chris.
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Re: time for Apple to get a new default voice

[Jessica Moss]

I'd love to have the loquendo voices too, even for the iPhone.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> As Jonathan mentioned a voice may not be prefered by someone but others may 
> like it.
> I would like for example to have espeak for mac intergrated into voiceover.
> Or the loquendo voices which are really great.
> This is something i have been telling apple but it might  be good to remind 
> them.
> /A
>> 10 jun 2015 kl. 22:54 skrev Eileen :
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I agree with you Jonathan. An official copy of Eloquence would be just fine 
>> with me. I tried Ava and the responsiveness was sluggish in comparison to 
>> Alex. Eventually, I needed to switch back to Alex. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Eileen
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Christopher. I think it depends on the hearing loss. I've worked with 
>>> people for example with a hearing loss who find Alex unintelligible once 
>>> you go a little above the default rate, but who can have compact Daniel 
>>> cranked up remarkably fast.
>>> Personally I'd be delighted to have Eloquence on my Mac because Alex 
>>> mispronounces far too much for my liking. The moral of the story is the 
>>> more choice of TTS a screen reader company can offer, the better. Speech is 
>>> extremely subjective.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org
>>> 
> On 11/06/2015, at 6:28 am, christopher hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
> Might be coming next year . Seriously though, I don't ever want 
> Apple to remove Alex. He's fantastic for someone with moderately severe 
> to profound hearing loss which I have. The other voices included are 
> fine, but doesn't cut it like Alex.
> On 10 Jun 2015, at 18:46, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ray. I don't really want Apple to get rid of Alex. I lve the fact that 
> he takes breaths and everything. I am with you on one thing though, I 
> hope Apple considers making the Siri voices available in El Capitan. 
> After all, you can get them for NVDA in Windows so why can't it be done 
> on the Mac?
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my White MacBook
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Ray Foret Jr  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Subject line pretty much says it all.  Nothing against Alex mind you:  
>> but, frankly, I reckon it's high time Apple adopted a new and much more 
>> updated default voice.  The new Siri male US English voice might perhaps 
>> be a good choice.  Here's hoping we see this one in Elcapitan.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> 
>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac,
>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>> 
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Re: performing an option click on a control?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

What does that do by option clicking check for update?  If you're trying to 
put another version of I O S on your device, then you need to be option 
clicking on the restore button, not the check for update button.  And, make 
sure before you do this, that your device is in DFU mode.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Justin Mann" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:00 PM
Subject: performing an option click on a control?


Hi all,
Has anybody ever been able to make option-click work on a control with 
voiceover using the trackpad without having to turn off voiceover?

I’m trying to option-click the “check for update” button in iTunes.
Thanks

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Re: Installing a virtual mac under Vmware

[Piotr Machacz]

I have used vmware to test developer previews of OS X and there is nothing to 
worry about. As soon as you tab into the VM so it starts receiving keys, 
command F5 is also intercepted by the VM so you can turn VO on without changing 
anything. However you will want to turn VO off on the host first because the VO 
keyhook is so low level that the VM won’t see any VoiceOver keys otherwise.
> On 16 Jun 2015, at 12:10, Sean Murphy  wrote:
> 
> The two options I can see:
> 
> 1. Remap the Mac host  keystroke to something else, if this can be done under 
> keyboard prefence.
> 2. Use another keyboard and modify the VMWare config file so the 2nd keyboard 
> is fully controlled by the guess OS (your Test Mac os). This is what I do for 
> Windows  in the past. When using 7.1 Pro I have had issues with it not 
> working as it is documented. Looking into it still.
> 
> Sean 
> 
>> On 16 Jun 2015, at 9:01 am, Tom Moore  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys,
>> I use VMware every day for both windows and Linux machines have
>> basically got everything worked out as far as accessing most of their
>> functions.
>> The big question left for me is now that VMware supports running
>> virtual mac os's how can this be done so that a person can hit command
>> f5 with out starting up the Voiceover on the host?
>> If this can be made to work a virtual mac can be installed for testing
>> purposes and run along side the host os.
>> 
>> Thanks for any tips you guys may have.
>> 
>> Tom
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Re: Installing a virtual mac under Vmware

[Sean Murphy]

The two options I can see:

1. Remap the Mac host  keystroke to something else, if this can be done under 
keyboard prefence.
2. Use another keyboard and modify the VMWare config file so the 2nd keyboard 
is fully controlled by the guess OS (your Test Mac os). This is what I do for 
Windows  in the past. When using 7.1 Pro I have had issues with it not working 
as it is documented. Looking into it still.

Sean 

> On 16 Jun 2015, at 9:01 am, Tom Moore  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> I use VMware every day for both windows and Linux machines have
> basically got everything worked out as far as accessing most of their
> functions.
> The big question left for me is now that VMware supports running
> virtual mac os's how can this be done so that a person can hit command
> f5 with out starting up the Voiceover on the host?
> If this can be made to work a virtual mac can be installed for testing
> purposes and run along side the host os.
> 
> Thanks for any tips you guys may have.
> 
> Tom
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