RE: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary

[M. Taylor]

Hello Chris,

Wow!  I am so glad that the Mac version of the app is so awesome.  

Okay, since the OS X version allows for audio entries, perhaps I'll pick it up, 
also.

Thanks for the feedback.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary

Mark? Bro? Wen you find a duzy, Man!  You! really! find a duzy!  I just took a 
very hard chance.  The app in the mac app store on the OSX side is 30 bucks, 
but oh! sweet! Lord! is it accessible, and worth every single penny of it!

This, by far! and away has gotta be the best Journal app I think I've yet ever! 
seen, regardless the platform or OS!

This was honestly probably one of the best $30 investments I yet have made! 
Truly, this dev has put huge huge huge! efforts into making the app accessible. 
 I almost wonder if he didn't make this thing accessible by sheer accident.  
He's gotta have done this purposely.  I mean, it is that good!

ON the mac side, it is so freaking accessible, to the point where F1 through
F3 literally will even jump you around the screen from your topics list, your 
calendar, etc.  Literally 95% of things have keyboard shortcuts.

Even on the iOS version, if you have a bluetooth keyboard, he's put keyboard 
shortcuts in the app for the common tasks.

BTW, it's looking like in answer to my audio question, the iOS version won't 
let you really do audio, but the mac version sure as day will!

So yeah guys, there are two reviews in the app store both by the same person.  
He gave it a 1 star rating, and just! brutally! and I mean brutally! mutilated! 
this poor developer!  It almost made me cry when I saw it.  LOL!  OK, not 
literally, but yeah...

Those are the only two reviews there though, both by that same guy, and both 
are horrible ratings.

Guys, we really! really! should write this dev and thank him for such a great 
app, and for being so! keened, whether he meant to be or not, to accessibility.

This is exactly how accessibility should be!  This app is just! beautiful!
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:37 AM
Subject: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary


> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was just using MacJournal for IPhone, a great little iOS app, and 
> thought
> I would remind those of you, who like to journal, that it is VoiceOver
> accessible.
>
> Just so you know, I have never used this tool in OS X so cannot speak to 
> its
> VoiceOver accessibility on the Mac, itself.
>
> Mark
>
> MacJournal for iPhone
> By Mariner Software
>
> Description
>
> Talk about some serious journaling experience!
>
> Introduced for the Mac in 2005 and the iPhone in 2010 (and the iPad 
> version
> shortly thereafter) MacJournal for iPhone offers an even greater 
> opportunity
> to document important life events while on the go. It's no wonder 
> MacJournal
> is the world's most popular journaling app for the Mac.
>
> Out and about? You know what we mean. Run here. Run there. And in between
> all that running, events happen. Then, when you're able to stop and take a
> breath, you think to yourself, "Now, what was that thing that happened? I
> wanted to write it down." - only to realize that you forgot what it was.
>
> Now you don't have to wait to until you sit at your desk to make an entry 
> in
> your journal. MacJournal for iPhone gives you the ability to record an 
> event
> or that special moment.
>
> Organize, chronicle and edit your important information fast and on the 
> fly.
> Best of all, unlike other journaling apps out there, you can blog to any 
> of
> the popular blog sites using MacJournal. Not a blogger? Use MacJournal on
> its own or share your MacJournal data over the cloud with your other MacOS
> and iOS devices. Even share documents via iTunes. Whichever way, 
> MacJournal
> has you covered.
>
> WITH MACJOURNAL YOU CAN:
> Create entries in multiple journals
> Attach images to your entries
> Edit styles in entries
> Using Dropbox, manage multiple MacJournal documents, that can reside on 
> your
> device
> Share entries to Facebook and Twitter
> Blog from your journal on your iPhone or iPod Touch to one of a list of
> popular servers such as Blogger, Wordpress, Tumblr and Posterous
> Set a passcode to lock your data upon opening MacJournal
> Have consistent and familiar look and feel on both iPhone version and Mac
> version
> Search or browse entries by using the search field at the top of each
> journal screen
> Create numbered or bulleted lists
> Journal in either landscape or portrait mode
>
> ***Sharing data with MacJournal for Mac OS via Dropbox 

RE: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary

[M. Taylor]

Hello Chris,

It's funny that you asked about being able to attach audio to entries as I was 
wondering the same thing, just last night, before posting about the app 
(smile).  

What I do, at this time, at least, is to use the dictation feature to help 
streamline my entries.

If you discover a way to attach audio to entries, by all means, let us know.  
This may be something that the developer could add in a future update.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:09 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary
Importance: High

Mark,

I need to play with this app a bit, but you might have very well just hit on a 
goldmine!  I cannot tell you how long I have been looking for a journal app to 
keep a private diary.  I won't go into it, but I have a lot of things in my 
life which really need to be worked through, some with a therapist, some just 
by myself.  This would be a killer! way for me to document my thoughts.  I had 
an app on my IPad, but it doesn't look anywhere near! this simple.  There are a 
few buttons, which I don't exactly get what they do.  I mean, they're greatly 
labeled.  I just don't get their concept of what they do.

Is there any help documentation out there that I can RTFM?  If not, would you 
be willing off list maybe to answer a couple of questions I may have along the 
way?

For only $1.99, this looks incredible!  I'm very much looking forward to using 
it!  Have you tried it on an IPad?  I've only installed it so far on my 6S, but 
I'm gonna put it on my IPad Pro next.  I need to see how much it costs, if 
anyone knows, do tell, but I'm seriously considerring getting the docking 
keyboard for the 12 inch IPad Pro.  Especially, now that I found a good 
journaling app, this will be absolutely perfect!  That was actually one of the 
huge things I wanted to be able to do with iOS, was to write little notes to 
myself, and to be able to also keep a private confidential diary.

Let me ask you something, Mark.

Do you know if this app will let you attach an audio recording to an entry? 
I say this as sometimes, I'm not proud to admit it, but I get so upset 
emotionally with some of the things in my life that I deal with, that it's just 
easier to audibly talk the things out, than it is to have to exert my energy on 
typing things out.

Anyway, thank you for such a killer recommendation!

I really really think this app is gonna help me tremendously!  If it isn't too 
expensive, which it shouldn't be, I'd be willing to chance buying the mac 
version, and tell you all how accessible it is.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message -
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:37 AM
Subject: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary


> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was just using MacJournal for IPhone, a great little iOS app, and 
> thought
> I would remind those of you, who like to journal, that it is VoiceOver
> accessible.
>
> Just so you know, I have never used this tool in OS X so cannot speak to 
> its
> VoiceOver accessibility on the Mac, itself.
>
> Mark
>
> MacJournal for iPhone
> By Mariner Software
>
> Description
>
> Talk about some serious journaling experience!
>
> Introduced for the Mac in 2005 and the iPhone in 2010 (and the iPad 
> version
> shortly thereafter) MacJournal for iPhone offers an even greater 
> opportunity
> to document important life events while on the go. It's no wonder 
> MacJournal
> is the world's most popular journaling app for the Mac.
>
> Out and about? You know what we mean. Run here. Run there. And in between
> all that running, events happen. Then, when you're able to stop and take a
> breath, you think to yourself, "Now, what was that thing that happened? I
> wanted to write it down." - only to realize that you forgot what it was.
>
> Now you don't have to wait to until you sit at your desk to make an entry 
> in
> your journal. MacJournal for iPhone gives you the ability to record an 
> event
> or that special moment.
>
> Organize, chronicle and edit your important information fast and on the 
> fly.
> Best of all, unlike other journaling apps out there, you can blog to any 
> of
> the popular blog sites using MacJournal. Not a blogger? Use MacJournal on
> its own or share your MacJournal data over the cloud with your other MacOS
> and iOS devices. Even share documents via iTunes. Whichever way, 
> MacJournal
> has you covered.
>
> WITH MACJOURNAL YOU CAN:
> Create entries in multiple journals
> Attach images to your entries
> Edit styles in entries
> Using Dropbox, manage multiple MacJournal documents, that can reside on 
> your
> device
> Share entries to 

Re: Ad displayed. on youtube

[michael babcock]

The youtube app on your phone will let you subscribe. 
> On Jul 7, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I have the Youtube app on my phone so is this the one from Google?  Also add 
> display only does it if I’m using Jaws and that’s at work.  At home because I 
> use a Mac, I don’t get Add Display.
>> On 7 Jul 2016, at 16:16, michael babcock > > wrote:
>> 
>> you can access it from your youtube app if you want to subscribe threw 
>> apple, or visit the website below:
>> "Use the new YouTube Music app with background play and offline access
>> Enjoy videos without ads–and in the background or offline on mobile devices
>> Watch YouTube creators take it to the next level in new movies and series
>> Save videos on your mobile device for your next trip out of town. Play 
>> videos in the background. And watch without ads.
>> Give back to your favorite YouTube creators with a membership that helps 
>> them keep making the videos we all love – without depending on ads.
>> Get more out of the YouTube Music app and listen to the tracks you love 
>> ad-free, in the background, offline, and in audio mode. 
>> Enjoy ad-free videos whenever you sign in to YouTube or a YouTube app—on 
>> your mobile device, desktop, or enabled TV.
>> “
>> and you can try for 30 days; my favorite feature:  lock your display when 
>> watching videos
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/red 
>> 
>>> On Jul 7, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Jessica Moss >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've never heard of that, where do you find it?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Michael Babcock >> > wrote:
>>> 
 subscribe to youtube red if you don’t want to here this any more; that 
 will eliminate the ads from being displayed.
 ***
 Michael Babcock
 Consulting Blind entrepreneurs on digital marketing
 Your Own Pay 
 Lets Connect On Twitter
 @payown 
 Or facebook
 Consulting with Michael Babcock 
 
 
 
 
> On Jul 5, 2016, at 3:20 PM, Kevin Chao  > wrote:
> 
> URL and repro steps? 
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 2:15 PM Jeffrey Shockley  > wrote:
> Hello,
> It’s saying this well, because small adds are displayed on the page while 
> the video plays, even after the first video ad has played. So, this isn’t 
> really a bug.
> Hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
> > On Jul 5, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Dionipher Herrera  > > wrote:
> >
> > it’s always saying Ad displayed. when opening videos on youtube on 
> > safari on mac now.. can somebody report this. i am now contacting 
> > applesupport on twitter. Thanks
> >
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Re: Looking for Slack feedback from voiceover users on OSX and IOS

[michael babcock]

Simon:
Thanks for your message.
Slack has created a #a11y organization, and they seem to be making things 
better. I’ll post one of the messages I got from the team a few hours ago:
"Hi Michael,
Thanks for coming back to me. Yes, there is an existing team that the 
accessibility community has created. This is a broad, public team on Slack with 
the goal of collaborating on accessibility solutions, technologies, etc. The 
current membership is already substantial and includes some of our engineers 
and folks from our accessibility team. Please feel free to share this with 
anyone who is interested.

Here's the link to request an invite: http://web-a11y.herokuapp.com 
.

“
And this was a follow-up to this message:
"Bel (Slack)
Jul 9, 9:32 PM PDT 

Hey there Michael,

Thanks for getting in touch! We would love to hear all your suggestions on how 
we might improve the user experience for blind users.

Accessibility is something we are working very hard to improve and our 
dedicated accessibility team are currently working on more features for our 
vision-impaired users. Please do let us know what your initial thoughts are on 
your experience and I will get our team involved from this side too.

Thanks for taking the time to offer your help and feedback on this Michael, 
your insights are really valuable to our development.

Warmly,

-Bel"

Hit up @slackhq
And type 
/feedback your feedback here
In any of the edit boxes on slack
Note: in desktop app on Mac, hitting the option key seems to jump focus back to 
the edit box, kinda makes things hard when using voiceover :)

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 12:02 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
>  
> Thanks for this, I will definitely be looking into this.
>  
> We’ve just started using slack at work for our messaging system as it’s not 
> hosted locally therefore if systems go down we can still communicate with our 
> teams nationwide.
>  
> I have only been able to get it to work somewhat accessible on my iPhone but 
> mac osx and windows desktop clients are pretty much crap accessibility 
> So thanks this will be helpful.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 2:08 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Looking for Slack feedback from voiceover users on OSX and IOS
>  
> Hey all!
> I’m posting this message because I’ve recently began using the platform 
> called Slack for my team communication needs.
> It’s not the most accessible, e.g. Focus jumps around the place at times, and 
> things could be designed better. That being said however, the platform can be 
> used and it wouldn’t take much to make it more accessible.
> A few things from you,
> I contacted slack and they gave me positive feedback and state they have a 
> team working on accessibility for future releases of the platform.
> Both on twitter and via email, they seem to be positive about wanting to 
> improve accessibility.
> So if you click the link below, I’ll send you the email, shhh, I’m waiting 
> for permission to just post its publicly…  But more importantly, you can then 
> ask for access to the channel.
> https://app.convertkit.com/landing_pages/74668 
> 
> I’m sure someone will post the email, so if you just want access to the 
> channel shoot me a message at:
> mich...@yourownpay.com 
> And I’ll get you in. It’s my hopes we all can share knowledge with the slack 
> team from different points of views.
> NOTE, you will only get info about slack.
> They have versions for the following platforms:
> Windows, Mac, Linux (Beta), IOS, android, and windows phones. You can also 
> interact with the service using a web browser. 
> https://slack.com/downloads 
> It’s free for most users.
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Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[David Chittenden]

Donna,

I am seeing current studies which are demonstrating that younger girls actually 
tend to have greater STEM aptitude compared with boys. Something changes for 
most of them by the time they complete secondary school. This is the subject of 
several current research studies.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Jul 2016, at 15:16, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hey Scott,
> 
> First let me say that on a very fundamental level I agree with your post.  
> But ...
> 
> As a kid, I somehow sort of absorbed the fact that because I was blind, math 
> and the sciences weren't for me.  And this despite the fact that my dad was a 
> computer guy, who spent lots of time and energy conveying to me how important 
> tech would be for me..  Some of my earliest memories are of him bringing home 
> those old computer punch cards and magnetic tapes for my brother and me to 
> play with.  I remember going with him into the office on Saturdays and seeing 
> the computer, which was this great big behemoth that took up an entire room.  
> I remember him teaching me base 2 at the dinner table.  But once I got to 
> school, my math and science teachers had no idea what to do with me.  Classes 
> were taught almost exclusively on the blackboard, and I was bored out of my 
> mind.  I grew up thinking I sucked at math, and it wasn't until I was in my 
> thirties that I realized that I was actually pretty bloody good at it.  Back 
> in the 80s, I went out with this total computer geek.  I was fascinated by 
> all the stuff he was into, but neither he nor I knew how to make all that 
> accessible to me.  (And by that time, I actually owned a TSI Versabraille).  
> I think that had I been born within the last 25 years, I actually would have 
> chosen IT--or something related--as a career.  Clearly something was 
> different for you and John.  Maybe it was innate intelligence, maybe there 
> was a gender bias at play, maybe it was opportunity, I don't know.  I do know 
> from other posts I've seen from you that your parents seemed quite willing to 
> think out of the box.  I grew up in suburbia.  My mom was 20 when she had me, 
> my dad was 22.  Having a blind kid pretty much rocked their young, limited 
> world.  I don't think my experience is unique.  Whatever it was that jived 
> for you guys, didn't carry over to lots of blind folks.
> 
> So yes, it was a fluff piece.  And yes, I wish they'd just treat blind folks 
> like everyone else.  But I also hope that there's a little Donna out there 
> somewhere--or maybe little Donna's parents--who don't buy into those 
> preconceived notions about what someone who's blind can or cannot do, and 
> that someday 20 years from now, that little Donna finds herself at the heart 
> of technological developments.
> 
> Just an alternate perspective.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 9:32 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> So here’s my problem with the article.
>> 
>> I think it’s fantastic what this young lady is doing, I absolutely support 
>> her efforts.  I also am thrilled that apple hired someone from our community 
>> for the design side.  I’m also happy Google does the same now and there’s 
>> discussion of teaching children to code.
>> 
>> My problem is with the reporter.  These articles are so damn fluff happy.  
>> Look at Apple saving the day for blind people.  Like it’s something new.  
>> Never mind you John and I built parts of the networks this reporter 
>> publishes on.:)  The article leads the reader to believe that blind people 
>> could only code until recently.  This blind guy as a child started coding 
>> 33+ years ago learning things like 6502 assembler, Apple Soft, PASCAL, then 
>> C and so forth. We used apples or PCs or what ever to get it done and in 
>> some ways have been directly or indirectly involved with the development of 
>> computers since the very beginning.  Real trail blazers like your self or 
>> Ray Kurzweil building devices to help his child, certain musicians with very 
>> deep pockets who brought some of the funding to the table, any blind person 
>> at all who successfully landed a job and held it showing others in our own 
>> little way we’re just people doing the same things that everyone else does, 
>> try to help take care of your selves, families and participate in our 
>> communities.
>>  I guess part of me just wishes that instead of being singled out and 
>> made to be some sort of something special we were just dealt with and 
>> reflected on by reporters especially as just another part of society.  Lest 
>> I get way to NFB here:) but there’s something to be said for being lumped in 
>> with everyone else.:)  The special attention sometimes makes us seem well 
>> special in the sense we’re not the norm, we’re almost untouchable and 
>> separate to make a reference to a really unfortunate cultural label in 
>> eastern 

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[David Chittenden]

I used the information in an interview today, and one of the panelists said he 
noticed the same thing. I shifted the interview to a brief speculation on why 
this might be (I enjoy briefly redirecting interviews). The concensus of the 
panel was that the number continues being used because it is good for getting 
funding.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Jul 2016, at 14:34, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi David, you know, I’ve heard that 70% number for ever, even pre 1995.  I 
> hope you’re right though, I’d love to see that number drop meaningfully.
> 
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:24 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, those stats are from a study which is about 18 years old. Even 
>> worse, however, is the stats about unemployment of the blind. Those stats, 
>> often sited in studies across the board, come from a study published in 1995 
>> or 1997 (I would need to look it up again for the exact date). The most 
>> recent info I have seen was published by the state of Oregon in 2007 (if 
>> memory serves) which places blindness unemployment rate at around 60%, not 
>> the often sited 70% to 80%. Note: I researched this in 2012, so am unaware 
>> of any data published since then.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: nexu...@icloud.com
>> Mobile: 0450 788 988
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On 12 Jul 2016, at 08:30, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Interesting stats they mention about correlation between braille literacy 
>>> and employment. I just had an iOS developer reach out to me who said WWDC 
>>> had a heavy emphasis on accessibility this year. I've never been so I can't 
>>> compare. I hope that's true. Nothing but good can come from more developers 
>>> become aware and care.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
 On 7/11/16 2:29 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
 Well, this is interesting story. I don't believe they mention anything 
 about braille. But at least it shows there are people  at Apple  working 
 on accessibility.
 http://mashable.com/2016/07/10/apple-innovation-blind-engineer/#RihiKu145Oqr
 
 This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22
 
 Apple engineer Jordyn Castor has never been one for limitations. 
 
 She was born 15 weeks early, weighing just under two pounds. Her 
 grandfather could hold her in the palm of his hand, and could even slide 
 his wedding ring along her arm and over her shoulder. Doctors said she had 
 a slim chance of survival.
 
 It was Castor's first brush with limited expectations — and also the first 
 time she shattered them.
 
 Castor, now 22, has been blind since birth, a result of her early 
 delivery. But throughout childhood, her parents encouraged her to defy 
 expectations of people with disabilities, motivating her to be 
 adventurous, hands-on and insatiably curious.
 
 It was that spirit that led to her interact with technology, whether it 
 was the desktop computer her family bought when she was in second grade, 
 or the classroom computer teachers encouraged her to use in school. 
 
 "I could help make technology more accessible for blind users." 
 She says the adults in her life would often hand her a gadget, telling her 
 to figure it out and show them how to use it. And she would.
 
 "I realized then I could code on the computer to have it fulfill the tasks 
 I wanted it to," says Castor, whose current work focuses on enhancing 
 features like VoiceOver for blind Apple users. "I came to realize that 
 with my knowledge of computers and technology, I could help change the 
 world for people with disabilities.
 
 "I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."
 
 Bringing a personal perspective to Apple innovation
 
 There's an often overlooked component of "diversity" in workplace 
 initiatives — the need to include the perspectives of people with 
 disabilities.
 
 Keeping tabs on the needs of the blind and low-vision community is a key 
 component of Apple's innovation in accessibility. Castor is proof of how 
 much that can strengthen a company.
 
 She was a college student at Michigan State University when she was first 
 introduced to Apple at a Minneapolis job fair in 2015. Castor went to the 
 gathering of employers, already knowing the tech giant would be there — 
 and she was nervous.
 
 "You aren't going to know unless you try," she thought. "You aren't going 
 to know unless you talk to them ... so go."
 
 
 
 Apple engineer Jordyn Castor poses for a headshot. Castor is a 

Re: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini

[Tim Kilburn]

It'll do that job well, and likely have power left over to handle some other 
tasks too.

Good luck.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 11, 2016, at 21:20, Scott Granados  wrote:

I was thinking of picking one up to run a protools setup as well as video 
editing.

I like the idea of a round case.:)  Also that’s a ton of cores you can load up 
in that thing.

Thanks I suspected they were very good, nice to hear from sone with first hand 
experience.

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 11:02 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> MacPro it is.  I have three at various locations within our School District, 
> a few older X-Serves and some good old Mac Minis all running as OS X Servers 
> and I liked the MacPro so much, I got one for home as well.  It's a 2009 
> model, so doesn't have the oomph that the newer cylindrical ones do, but it's 
> a work-horse.  I do also have a MacBook Pro, but that's a different story.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 20:38, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim, by mac pro do you mean a Macbook pro or a real mac pro desktop.  I’ve 
> been thinking about getting a mac pro desktop but (power work station might 
> be a better word for it) but I haven’t met anyone who’s used one.  If you’re 
> using the later, any impressions?
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I agree totally with your assessment here.  Although, regarding the MacPro, 
>> I installed a SSD into Bay 1 of mine, created a fusion drive between it and 
>> a 1 TB spinner in Bay 2 and knocked it up to 16 GB of RAM.  It runs quite 
>> well with El Capitan now.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 15:21, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Nothing new here, Apple is just better at keeping consumers out of their 
>> widgets now then back in the Mac Plus days. They figured out that most 
>> people could pick up a long T15 Torx screwdriver without much trouble but 
>> getting things unsoldered without burning the board is a different thing. 
>> Then again, it used to be that a machine would barley creak past the three 
>> year mark before failing, if they made it that far. My 2008 Mac Pro and 2012 
>> MacBook Pro are still humming along just fine at work. So are the PowerMac 
>> G4 in the basement and the 2009 Mini hooked to the TV at home. It's no 
>> longer planned obsolescence through hardware failure but by software that 
>> requires more and more. Eventually support is dropped and I have to make the 
>> call on whether I can live with a particular piece of hardware running 
>> software frozen in time. At least with the MacPro it can still run OSX 10.11 
>> even if it's a bit pokey.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 7/9/16 8:01 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Apple doesn’t want you to upgrade at all.  For most products now once you 
>>> buy it your stuck with what you got.  As Simon mentioned there may be an 
>>> access panel on the iMac but for the most part everything is hard soldered 
>>> to the board.
>>> 
 On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
 
 Hi. Can you upgrade the RAM on the latest Mac Mini? I would be interested 
 in doing this but I think Apple prefer we didn’t go to a local retailer 
 for RAM upgrades.
> On 7 Jul 2016, at 18:20, Portia Scott  wrote:
> 
> Also, if you know a good computer store, or you know how to yourself,
> you can upgrade the ram, I believe up to 16 GB. At least, mine can be
> upgraded that much, yours may be only 8 GB. Still, that is decent.
> 
> Portia.
> 
> On 7/7/16, Portia Scott  wrote:
>> Hey Arnold,
>> 
>> That is the exact model I got, but it is from 2012.
>> 
>> I honestly think it would be a great buy, as I've read the reviews on it.
>> 
>> Portia.
>> 
>> On 7/7/16, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>> It is from 2011.  It has an i5, I think 2.5 gig, processor, but only 4
>>> gig
>>> of ram.  It has a 500 gig hard drive, which is plenty for me.  They want
>>> about $430 for this computer.  Thanks for any opinions.
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> 
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Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[Scott Granados]

Donna, it amazes me how similar our histories are.  My childhood has a lot of 
parallels to yours.  My mother and father had me at about the same time frame.  
My father had just come back from Vietnam serving as a marine and my mother 
graduated college with an Art degree.  I’m not sure if it was there 
upbringings, the marine training or just pure luck but they seemed to get ahold 
of things pretty quickly.  I think for both our parents having a blind child 
was an emotional ride none of us would want to have.  I know in my case they 
were more concerned with me surviving the illness and treatments more than the 
blindness itself.  My mother got involved with some parents groups early on and 
stayed home to take care of me until maybe age 10 or so with is a luxury many 
do not have.  My dad worked for a major ship builder so had a wonderful middle 
class job as an electrician and a fantastic union health plan.  I’d have 
probably died with out that coverage as the costs were in the 7 figure range 
and my parents didn’t end up spending anything for my care and worked with 
Ronald McDonald house to stay with me when I had to go to the big bad city for 
treatments.
I think the difference for me was my science teachers realized I had 
potential at a young age.  I was given typing classes from the first grade on 
in place of hand writing, I had an amazing resource teacher who was also 
totally blind that made all the difference in the world, and our planetarium 
director / 8th grade science teacher took a personal interest in me and made 
sure I was heavily exposed to anything science like.  My parents were both 
interested in all things science and I was exposed to everything from UFO 
culture to the old Cosmos TV show to learning all about computers.
Luckily I was also encouraged to work at a young age and did saving up 
for my own computer in Junior High or middle school which at the time cost me 
over $3000 for an Apple 2E with all the fixings.
I have two very strong memories that I remember inspiring me as a very 
young child.  One was driving around in our chevy Nova with my dad listening to 
the Steve Miller Band being absolutely amazed with all the synthetic sounds.  
Fly like an Eagle was a trip for a young kid, was also a trip in my teenage 
years but in a much different way, lol.  I remember being absolutely driven to 
learn how it was Steve Miller was able to make all that crazy synthesizer sound.
The other was being taken to game arcades by my father at about the 
same time.  This would have been 5 years old or so.  I was amazed with pinball 
machines.  Had to learn how they worked, how they generated all the crazy 
voices and synthetic sounds.  Games like Alien poker and Time Warp were way out 
and I remember seeing the space invaders prototype when I was a few years older 
at the Big E (Newengland states fair).  I was hooked, electronics here we come. 
 I had earned EE credits by age 9 and had my general class Ham license by age 
10.  It was there I discovered hacking and phreaking and we won't go in to that 
here.:)  The drugs and girls slowed down my progress through the teens but I 
got back on track again in my early 20s.
I think an important thing is I was never over protected, at least no 
more than usual.  I was aloud to fail, get the hell shocked out of me, break 
things, learn from mistakes that sometimes resulted in lots of smoke or 
structural damage.:) I learned prisoner of war training, got waterboarded 
several times, sleep depravation, forced marches, survival training, tactics 
just short of being attached to a field telephone lol as well as learned to 
field service an M16 not much longer after I learned to walk.  My dad used to 
take me to the local reservoirs / woods and shoot guns and grenade launchers. 
(I’d like to see what would happen if I tried that today, something tells me 
the local police would object to me shooting an M79 grenade launcher off behind 
the old pumping station) (actually, come to think of it we used the older M203 
but same idea) Believe it or not, I used these skills to escape from a cult 
when I was 9 but that’s a story for another list. 
I’m not sure kids today have the same options we did, certainly not the 
same fun we did.  I think to bottom line this here the reason I got exposed to 
science and computers was a lot to do with luck.  I happened to be born and 
grow up in a town that totally drank the mainstreaming koolade and had science 
teachers who really took a personal interest.  As well as a set of parents who 
wouldn’t take no mess.:) My area was also very science focused.  We were all 
being raised to work in the Nuclear power plant or the ship yard so my little 
piece of Connecticut liked their sciences.

Oh and one more thing, for goodness sake Braille literacy is so so important.  
Even though I do not use it now much and haven’t since school it gave me that 
understanding and 

Re: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini

[Scott Granados]

I was thinking of picking one up to run a protools setup as well as video 
editing.

I like the idea of a round case.:)  Also that’s a ton of cores you can load up 
in that thing.

Thanks I suspected they were very good, nice to hear from sone with first hand 
experience.

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 11:02 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> MacPro it is.  I have three at various locations within our School District, 
> a few older X-Serves and some good old Mac Minis all running as OS X Servers 
> and I liked the MacPro so much, I got one for home as well.  It's a 2009 
> model, so doesn't have the oomph that the newer cylindrical ones do, but it's 
> a work-horse.  I do also have a MacBook Pro, but that's a different story.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 20:38, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim, by mac pro do you mean a Macbook pro or a real mac pro desktop.  I’ve 
> been thinking about getting a mac pro desktop but (power work station might 
> be a better word for it) but I haven’t met anyone who’s used one.  If you’re 
> using the later, any impressions?
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I agree totally with your assessment here.  Although, regarding the MacPro, 
>> I installed a SSD into Bay 1 of mine, created a fusion drive between it and 
>> a 1 TB spinner in Bay 2 and knocked it up to 16 GB of RAM.  It runs quite 
>> well with El Capitan now.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 15:21, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Nothing new here, Apple is just better at keeping consumers out of their 
>> widgets now then back in the Mac Plus days. They figured out that most 
>> people could pick up a long T15 Torx screwdriver without much trouble but 
>> getting things unsoldered without burning the board is a different thing. 
>> Then again, it used to be that a machine would barley creak past the three 
>> year mark before failing, if they made it that far. My 2008 Mac Pro and 2012 
>> MacBook Pro are still humming along just fine at work. So are the PowerMac 
>> G4 in the basement and the 2009 Mini hooked to the TV at home. It's no 
>> longer planned obsolescence through hardware failure but by software that 
>> requires more and more. Eventually support is dropped and I have to make the 
>> call on whether I can live with a particular piece of hardware running 
>> software frozen in time. At least with the MacPro it can still run OSX 10.11 
>> even if it's a bit pokey.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 7/9/16 8:01 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Apple doesn’t want you to upgrade at all.  For most products now once you 
>>> buy it your stuck with what you got.  As Simon mentioned there may be an 
>>> access panel on the iMac but for the most part everything is hard soldered 
>>> to the board.
>>> 
 On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
 
 Hi. Can you upgrade the RAM on the latest Mac Mini? I would be interested 
 in doing this but I think Apple prefer we didn’t go to a local retailer 
 for RAM upgrades.
> On 7 Jul 2016, at 18:20, Portia Scott  wrote:
> 
> Also, if you know a good computer store, or you know how to yourself,
> you can upgrade the ram, I believe up to 16 GB. At least, mine can be
> upgraded that much, yours may be only 8 GB. Still, that is decent.
> 
> Portia.
> 
> On 7/7/16, Portia Scott  wrote:
>> Hey Arnold,
>> 
>> That is the exact model I got, but it is from 2012.
>> 
>> I honestly think it would be a great buy, as I've read the reviews on it.
>> 
>> Portia.
>> 
>> On 7/7/16, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>> It is from 2011.  It has an i5, I think 2.5 gig, processor, but only 4
>>> gig
>>> of ram.  It has a 500 gig hard drive, which is plenty for me.  They want
>>> about $430 for this computer.  Thanks for any opinions.
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> or
>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
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>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
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Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[Donna Goodin]

Hey Scott,

First let me say that on a very fundamental level I agree with your post.  But 
...

As a kid, I somehow sort of absorbed the fact that because I was blind, math 
and the sciences weren't for me.  And this despite the fact that my dad was a 
computer guy, who spent lots of time and energy conveying to me how important 
tech would be for me..  Some of my earliest memories are of him bringing home 
those old computer punch cards and magnetic tapes for my brother and me to play 
with.  I remember going with him into the office on Saturdays and seeing the 
computer, which was this great big behemoth that took up an entire room.  I 
remember him teaching me base 2 at the dinner table.  But once I got to school, 
my math and science teachers had no idea what to do with me.  Classes were 
taught almost exclusively on the blackboard, and I was bored out of my mind.  I 
grew up thinking I sucked at math, and it wasn't until I was in my thirties 
that I realized that I was actually pretty bloody good at it.  Back in the 80s, 
I went out with this total computer geek.  I was fascinated by all the stuff he 
was into, but neither he nor I knew how to make all that accessible to me.  
(And by that time, I actually owned a TSI Versabraille).  I think that had I 
been born within the last 25 years, I actually would have chosen IT--or 
something related--as a career.  Clearly something was different for you and 
John.  Maybe it was innate intelligence, maybe there was a gender bias at play, 
maybe it was opportunity, I don't know.  I do know from other posts I've seen 
from you that your parents seemed quite willing to think out of the box.  I 
grew up in suburbia.  My mom was 20 when she had me, my dad was 22.  Having a 
blind kid pretty much rocked their young, limited world.  I don't think my 
experience is unique.  Whatever it was that jived for you guys, didn't carry 
over to lots of blind folks.

So yes, it was a fluff piece.  And yes, I wish they'd just treat blind folks 
like everyone else.  But I also hope that there's a little Donna out there 
somewhere--or maybe little Donna's parents--who don't buy into those 
preconceived notions about what someone who's blind can or cannot do, and that 
someday 20 years from now, that little Donna finds herself at the heart of 
technological developments.

Just an alternate perspective.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 9:32 PM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
> So here’s my problem with the article.
> 
> I think it’s fantastic what this young lady is doing, I absolutely support 
> her efforts.  I also am thrilled that apple hired someone from our community 
> for the design side.  I’m also happy Google does the same now and there’s 
> discussion of teaching children to code.
> 
> My problem is with the reporter.  These articles are so damn fluff happy.  
> Look at Apple saving the day for blind people.  Like it’s something new.  
> Never mind you John and I built parts of the networks this reporter publishes 
> on.:)  The article leads the reader to believe that blind people could only 
> code until recently.  This blind guy as a child started coding 33+ years ago 
> learning things like 6502 assembler, Apple Soft, PASCAL, then C and so forth. 
> We used apples or PCs or what ever to get it done and in some ways have been 
> directly or indirectly involved with the development of computers since the 
> very beginning.  Real trail blazers like your self or Ray Kurzweil building 
> devices to help his child, certain musicians with very deep pockets who 
> brought some of the funding to the table, any blind person at all who 
> successfully landed a job and held it showing others in our own little way 
> we’re just people doing the same things that everyone else does, try to help 
> take care of your selves, families and participate in our communities.
>   I guess part of me just wishes that instead of being singled out and 
> made to be some sort of something special we were just dealt with and 
> reflected on by reporters especially as just another part of society.  Lest I 
> get way to NFB here:) but there’s something to be said for being lumped in 
> with everyone else.:)  The special attention sometimes makes us seem well 
> special in the sense we’re not the norm, we’re almost untouchable and 
> separate to make a reference to a really unfortunate cultural label in 
> eastern societies.
>   The same thing happens with reporters who publish puff pieces on 
> artificial vision advances or medical advances that cure illnesses related to 
> blindness.  I don’t know how many articles I’ve read where some gadget is 
> going to save us from our selves and totally make it all better.  Things 
> ain’t that bad.  What’s bad is convincing the public we need to be saved.
>   Maybe I’m just becoming a grumpy old man like I was afraid of when I 
> was young.
> 
> Still, congratulations to this young lady but 

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[Donna Goodin]

Hey Scott,

First let me say that on a very fundamental level I agree with your post.  But 
...

As a kid, I somehow sort of absorbed the fact that because I was blind, math 
and the sciences weren't for me.  And this despite the fact that my dad was a 
computer guy, who spent lots of time and energy conveying to me how important 
tech would be for me..  Some of my earliest memories are of him bringing home 
those old computer punch cards and magnetic tapes for my brother and me to play 
with.  I remember going with him into the office on Saturdays and seeing the 
computer, which was this great big behemoth that took up an entire room.  I 
remember him teaching me base 2 at the dinner table.  But once I got to school, 
my math and science teachers had no idea what to do with me.  Classes were 
taught almost exclusively on the blackboard, and I was bored out of my mind.  I 
grew up thinking I sucked at math, and it wasn't until I was in my thirties 
that I realized that I was actually pretty bloody good at it.  Back in the 80s, 
I went out with this total computer geek.  I was fascinated by all the stuff he 
was into, but neither he nor I knew how to make all that accessible to me.  
(And by that time, I actually owned a TSI Versabraille).  I think that had I 
been born within the last 25 years, I actually would have chosen IT--or 
something related--as a career.  Clearly something was different for you and 
John.  Maybe it was innate intelligence, maybe there was a gender bias at play, 
maybe it was opportunity, I don't know.  I do know from other posts I've seen 
from you that your parents seemed quite willing to think out of the box.  I 
grew up in suburbia.  My mom was 20 when she had me, my dad was 22.  Having a 
blind kid pretty much rocked their young, limited world.  I don't think my 
experience is unique.  Whatever it was that jived for you guys, didn't carry 
over to lots of blind folks.

So yes, it was a fluff piece.  And yes, I wish they'd just treat blind folks 
like everyone else.  But I also hope that there's a little Donna out there 
somewhere--or maybe little Donna's parents--who don't buy into those 
preconceived notions about what someone who's blind can or cannot do, and that 
someday 20 years from now, that little Donna finds herself at the heart of 
technological developments.

Just an alternate perspective.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 9:32 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> So here’s my problem with the article.
> 
> I think it’s fantastic what this young lady is doing, I absolutely support 
> her efforts.  I also am thrilled that apple hired someone from our community 
> for the design side.  I’m also happy Google does the same now and there’s 
> discussion of teaching children to code.
> 
> My problem is with the reporter.  These articles are so damn fluff happy.  
> Look at Apple saving the day for blind people.  Like it’s something new.  
> Never mind you John and I built parts of the networks this reporter publishes 
> on.:)  The article leads the reader to believe that blind people could only 
> code until recently.  This blind guy as a child started coding 33+ years ago 
> learning things like 6502 assembler, Apple Soft, PASCAL, then C and so forth. 
> We used apples or PCs or what ever to get it done and in some ways have been 
> directly or indirectly involved with the development of computers since the 
> very beginning.  Real trail blazers like your self or Ray Kurzweil building 
> devices to help his child, certain musicians with very deep pockets who 
> brought some of the funding to the table, any blind person at all who 
> successfully landed a job and held it showing others in our own little way 
> we’re just people doing the same things that everyone else does, try to help 
> take care of your selves, families and participate in our communities.
>   I guess part of me just wishes that instead of being singled out and 
> made to be some sort of something special we were just dealt with and 
> reflected on by reporters especially as just another part of society.  Lest I 
> get way to NFB here:) but there’s something to be said for being lumped in 
> with everyone else.:)  The special attention sometimes makes us seem well 
> special in the sense we’re not the norm, we’re almost untouchable and 
> separate to make a reference to a really unfortunate cultural label in 
> eastern societies.
>   The same thing happens with reporters who publish puff pieces on 
> artificial vision advances or medical advances that cure illnesses related to 
> blindness.  I don’t know how many articles I’ve read where some gadget is 
> going to save us from our selves and totally make it all better.  Things 
> ain’t that bad.  What’s bad is convincing the public we need to be saved.
>   Maybe I’m just becoming a grumpy old man like I was afraid of when I 
> was young.
> 
> Still, congratulations to this young lady but also congratulations to all the 
> 

Re: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini

[Tim Kilburn]

Scott,

MacPro it is.  I have three at various locations within our School District, a 
few older X-Serves and some good old Mac Minis all running as OS X Servers and 
I liked the MacPro so much, I got one for home as well.  It's a 2009 model, so 
doesn't have the oomph that the newer cylindrical ones do, but it's a 
work-horse.  I do also have a MacBook Pro, but that's a different story.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 11, 2016, at 20:38, Scott Granados  wrote:

Hi Tim, by mac pro do you mean a Macbook pro or a real mac pro desktop.  I’ve 
been thinking about getting a mac pro desktop but (power work station might be 
a better word for it) but I haven’t met anyone who’s used one.  If you’re using 
the later, any impressions?



> On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I agree totally with your assessment here.  Although, regarding the MacPro, I 
> installed a SSD into Bay 1 of mine, created a fusion drive between it and a 1 
> TB spinner in Bay 2 and knocked it up to 16 GB of RAM.  It runs quite well 
> with El Capitan now.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 15:21, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nothing new here, Apple is just better at keeping consumers out of their 
> widgets now then back in the Mac Plus days. They figured out that most people 
> could pick up a long T15 Torx screwdriver without much trouble but getting 
> things unsoldered without burning the board is a different thing. Then again, 
> it used to be that a machine would barley creak past the three year mark 
> before failing, if they made it that far. My 2008 Mac Pro and 2012 MacBook 
> Pro are still humming along just fine at work. So are the PowerMac G4 in the 
> basement and the 2009 Mini hooked to the TV at home. It's no longer planned 
> obsolescence through hardware failure but by software that requires more and 
> more. Eventually support is dropped and I have to make the call on whether I 
> can live with a particular piece of hardware running software frozen in time. 
> At least with the MacPro it can still run OSX 10.11 even if it's a bit pokey.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 7/9/16 8:01 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Apple doesn’t want you to upgrade at all.  For most products now once you 
>> buy it your stuck with what you got.  As Simon mentioned there may be an 
>> access panel on the iMac but for the most part everything is hard soldered 
>> to the board.
>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. Can you upgrade the RAM on the latest Mac Mini? I would be interested 
>>> in doing this but I think Apple prefer we didn’t go to a local retailer for 
>>> RAM upgrades.
 On 7 Jul 2016, at 18:20, Portia Scott  wrote:
 
 Also, if you know a good computer store, or you know how to yourself,
 you can upgrade the ram, I believe up to 16 GB. At least, mine can be
 upgraded that much, yours may be only 8 GB. Still, that is decent.
 
 Portia.
 
 On 7/7/16, Portia Scott  wrote:
> Hey Arnold,
> 
> That is the exact model I got, but it is from 2012.
> 
> I honestly think it would be a great buy, as I've read the reviews on it.
> 
> Portia.
> 
> On 7/7/16, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> It is from 2011.  It has an i5, I think 2.5 gig, processor, but only 4
>> gig
>> of ram.  It has a 500 gig hard drive, which is plenty for me.  They want
>> about $430 for this computer.  Thanks for any opinions.
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
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Re: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini

[Scott Granados]

Hi Tim, by mac pro do you mean a Macbook pro or a real mac pro desktop.  I’ve 
been thinking about getting a mac pro desktop but (power work station might be 
a better word for it) but I haven’t met anyone who’s used one.  If you’re using 
the later, any impressions?



> On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I agree totally with your assessment here.  Although, regarding the MacPro, I 
> installed a SSD into Bay 1 of mine, created a fusion drive between it and a 1 
> TB spinner in Bay 2 and knocked it up to 16 GB of RAM.  It runs quite well 
> with El Capitan now.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 15:21, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nothing new here, Apple is just better at keeping consumers out of their 
> widgets now then back in the Mac Plus days. They figured out that most people 
> could pick up a long T15 Torx screwdriver without much trouble but getting 
> things unsoldered without burning the board is a different thing. Then again, 
> it used to be that a machine would barley creak past the three year mark 
> before failing, if they made it that far. My 2008 Mac Pro and 2012 MacBook 
> Pro are still humming along just fine at work. So are the PowerMac G4 in the 
> basement and the 2009 Mini hooked to the TV at home. It's no longer planned 
> obsolescence through hardware failure but by software that requires more and 
> more. Eventually support is dropped and I have to make the call on whether I 
> can live with a particular piece of hardware running software frozen in time. 
> At least with the MacPro it can still run OSX 10.11 even if it's a bit pokey.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 7/9/16 8:01 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Apple doesn’t want you to upgrade at all.  For most products now once you 
>> buy it your stuck with what you got.  As Simon mentioned there may be an 
>> access panel on the iMac but for the most part everything is hard soldered 
>> to the board.
>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. Can you upgrade the RAM on the latest Mac Mini? I would be interested 
>>> in doing this but I think Apple prefer we didn’t go to a local retailer for 
>>> RAM upgrades.
 On 7 Jul 2016, at 18:20, Portia Scott  wrote:
 
 Also, if you know a good computer store, or you know how to yourself,
 you can upgrade the ram, I believe up to 16 GB. At least, mine can be
 upgraded that much, yours may be only 8 GB. Still, that is decent.
 
 Portia.
 
 On 7/7/16, Portia Scott  wrote:
> Hey Arnold,
> 
> That is the exact model I got, but it is from 2012.
> 
> I honestly think it would be a great buy, as I've read the reviews on it.
> 
> Portia.
> 
> On 7/7/16, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> It is from 2011.  It has an i5, I think 2.5 gig, processor, but only 4
>> gig
>> of ram.  It has a 500 gig hard drive, which is plenty for me.  They want
>> about $430 for this computer.  Thanks for any opinions.
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
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Re: Mnumonics

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Awesome, ben!  That's great!  Get it? Great, state, eight? OK, now I'm being a 
ditz!  LOL!  ROFL!

BTW, for those with hearing losses, I have some myself, so I know where you're 
probably going.  Look at that word!  I didn't say I'm be a... what you may 
think! I said.  I said ditz! d i t z! not! d i c k!

Sorry, just had to say it, before someone bit off my head.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Ben J. Bloomgren 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 10:23 PM
  Subject: Re: Mnumonics


  Chris, these are masterful! had I known these back in 2011, I may have gotten 
through the beginner stages even that much faster. I add one more though:




  Vo+F8, find your state.




  Ben




  On 7/11/2016 18:59, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

If anyone can think of any more of these, then let me know, and I'll add 
them to the list.  I however just sent the first handout to the students who 
will be attending the first Voiceover training class tomorrow.  Basically, it's 
a list of a few mnumonics that throughout the corse, we'll be referencing.  I 
thought I'd send it here to the list as well as I want to help as many of you 
guys, struggling or not, as I can.  So here is a list of some little rhymes 
that might help people with rememberring some of the most important Voiceover 
concepts.  I trust that this will help someone out there!  Here we go.

V O keys, move with ease

Quick Nav on, VO keys gone

Interact, shows what's packed

V O Space, commits place

V O A, reads away!

VO+D, dock you'll see

VO+I, worth a try

Command F5, come alive!

Menu bars: V O M, Gets to them.

V O J, jump then say

V O K, learn each day

V O T, font tell me
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Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[Scott Granados]

Hi David, you know, I’ve heard that 70% number for ever, even pre 1995.  I hope 
you’re right though, I’d love to see that number drop meaningfully.


> On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:24 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Actually, those stats are from a study which is about 18 years old. Even 
> worse, however, is the stats about unemployment of the blind. Those stats, 
> often sited in studies across the board, come from a study published in 1995 
> or 1997 (I would need to look it up again for the exact date). The most 
> recent info I have seen was published by the state of Oregon in 2007 (if 
> memory serves) which places blindness unemployment rate at around 60%, not 
> the often sited 70% to 80%. Note: I researched this in 2012, so am unaware of 
> any data published since then.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: nexu...@icloud.com 
> Mobile: 0450 788 988
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
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> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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> On 12 Jul 2016, at 08:30, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> > 
> wrote:
> 
>> Interesting stats they mention about correlation between braille literacy 
>> and employment. I just had an iOS developer reach out to me who said WWDC 
>> had a heavy emphasis on accessibility this year. I've never been so I can't 
>> compare. I hope that's true. Nothing but good can come from more developers 
>> become aware and care.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 7/11/16 2:29 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
>>> Well, this is interesting story. I don't believe they mention anything 
>>> about braille. But at least it shows there are people  at Apple  working on 
>>> accessibility.
>>> http://mashable.com/2016/07/10/apple-innovation-blind-engineer/#RihiKu145Oqr
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22
>>> 
>>> Apple engineer Jordyn Castor has never been one for limitations. 
>>> 
>>> She was born 15 weeks early, weighing just under two pounds. Her 
>>> grandfather could hold her in the palm of his hand, and could even slide 
>>> his wedding ring along her arm and over her shoulder. Doctors said she had 
>>> a slim chance of survival.
>>> 
>>> It was Castor's first brush with limited expectations — and also the first 
>>> time she shattered them.
>>> 
>>> Castor, now 22, has been blind since birth, a result of her early delivery. 
>>> But throughout childhood, her parents encouraged her to defy expectations 
>>> of people with disabilities, motivating her to be adventurous, hands-on and 
>>> insatiably curious.
>>> 
>>> It was that spirit that led to her interact with technology, whether it was 
>>> the desktop computer her family bought when she was in second grade, or the 
>>> classroom computer teachers encouraged her to use in school. 
>>> 
>>>  <>"I could help make technology more accessible for blind users." 
>>> She says the adults in her life would often hand her a gadget, telling her 
>>> to figure it out and show them how to use it. And she would.
>>> 
>>> "I realized then I could code on the computer to have it fulfill the tasks 
>>> I wanted it to," says Castor, whose current work focuses on enhancing 
>>> features like VoiceOver for blind Apple users. "I came to realize that with 
>>> my knowledge of computers and technology, I could help change the world for 
>>> people with disabilities.
>>> 
>>> "I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."
>>> 
>>> Bringing a personal perspective to Apple innovation
>>> 
>>> There's an often overlooked component of "diversity" in workplace 
>>> initiatives — the need to include the perspectives of people with 
>>> disabilities.
>>> 
>>> Keeping tabs on the needs of the blind and low-vision community is a key 
>>> component of Apple's innovation in accessibility. Castor is proof of how 
>>> much that can strengthen a company.
>>> 
>>> She was a college student at Michigan State University when she was first 
>>> introduced to Apple at a Minneapolis job fair in 2015. Castor went to the 
>>> gathering of employers, already knowing the tech giant would be there — and 
>>> she was nervous.
>>> 
>>> "You aren't going to know unless you try," she thought. "You aren't going 
>>> to know unless you talk to them ... so go."
>>> 
>>>  <>
>>> 
>>> Apple engineer Jordyn Castor poses for a headshot. Castor is a driving 
>>> force behind accessibility of Apple products, especially for blind users.
>>> 
>>> Image: Provided by Apple and Jordyn Castor
>>> 
>>> Castor told Apple reps how amazed she was by the iPad she received as a 
>>> gift for her 17th birthday just a few years earlier. It raised her passion 
>>> for tech to another level — mainly due to the iPad's immediate 
>>> accessibility.
>>> 
>>> "Everything 

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[Scott Granados]

So here’s my problem with the article.

I think it’s fantastic what this young lady is doing, I absolutely support her 
efforts.  I also am thrilled that apple hired someone from our community for 
the design side.  I’m also happy Google does the same now and there’s 
discussion of teaching children to code.

My problem is with the reporter.  These articles are so damn fluff happy.  Look 
at Apple saving the day for blind people.  Like it’s something new.  Never mind 
you John and I built parts of the networks this reporter publishes on.:)  The 
article leads the reader to believe that blind people could only code until 
recently.  This blind guy as a child started coding 33+ years ago learning 
things like 6502 assembler, Apple Soft, PASCAL, then C and so forth. We used 
apples or PCs or what ever to get it done and in some ways have been directly 
or indirectly involved with the development of computers since the very 
beginning.  Real trail blazers like your self or Ray Kurzweil building devices 
to help his child, certain musicians with very deep pockets who brought some of 
the funding to the table, any blind person at all who successfully landed a job 
and held it showing others in our own little way we’re just people doing the 
same things that everyone else does, try to help take care of your selves, 
families and participate in our communities.
I guess part of me just wishes that instead of being singled out and 
made to be some sort of something special we were just dealt with and reflected 
on by reporters especially as just another part of society.  Lest I get way to 
NFB here:) but there’s something to be said for being lumped in with everyone 
else.:)  The special attention sometimes makes us seem well special in the 
sense we’re not the norm, we’re almost untouchable and separate to make a 
reference to a really unfortunate cultural label in eastern societies.
The same thing happens with reporters who publish puff pieces on 
artificial vision advances or medical advances that cure illnesses related to 
blindness.  I don’t know how many articles I’ve read where some gadget is going 
to save us from our selves and totally make it all better.  Things ain’t that 
bad.  What’s bad is convincing the public we need to be saved.
Maybe I’m just becoming a grumpy old man like I was afraid of when I 
was young.

Still, congratulations to this young lady but also congratulations to all the 
other engineers at apple some of which are on this list.  And congratulations 
to you John and others who have made countless contributions to technology in 
general.

Ah well, what’s the expression, there’s no such thing as bad publicity?  
Suppose that’s true.


  


> On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Well, this is interesting story. I don't believe they mention anything about 
> braille. But at least it shows there are people  at Apple  working on 
> accessibility.
> http://mashable.com/2016/07/10/apple-innovation-blind-engineer/#RihiKu145Oqr 
> 
> 
> This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22
> 
> Apple engineer Jordyn Castor has never been one for limitations. 
> 
> She was born 15 weeks early, weighing just under two pounds. Her grandfather 
> could hold her in the palm of his hand, and could even slide his wedding ring 
> along her arm and over her shoulder. Doctors said she had a slim chance of 
> survival.
> 
> It was Castor's first brush with limited expectations — and also the first 
> time she shattered them.
> 
> Castor, now 22, has been blind since birth, a result of her early delivery. 
> But throughout childhood, her parents encouraged her to defy expectations of 
> people with disabilities, motivating her to be adventurous, hands-on and 
> insatiably curious.
> 
> It was that spirit that led to her interact with technology, whether it was 
> the desktop computer her family bought when she was in second grade, or the 
> classroom computer teachers encouraged her to use in school. 
> 
>  <>"I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."
> She says the adults in her life would often hand her a gadget, telling her to 
> figure it out and show them how to use it. And she would.
> 
> "I realized then I could code on the computer to have it fulfill the tasks I 
> wanted it to," says Castor, whose current work focuses on enhancing features 
> like VoiceOver for blind Apple users. "I came to realize that with my 
> knowledge of computers and technology, I could help change the world for 
> people with disabilities.
> 
> "I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."
> 
> Bringing a personal perspective to Apple innovation
> 
> There's an often overlooked component of "diversity" in workplace initiatives 
> — the need to include the perspectives of people with disabilities.
> 
> Keeping tabs on the needs 

Re: Mnumonics

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Don't worry guys, no need to keep saying please send to me.  With the utmost 
respect, That's only gonna clutter the list with unnecessary messages.  I 
promise I will send publicly to all of you on the list if I come up with more 
of these.  You have my word, cross my heart, and you know me.  I don't take 
promises lightly of any sort!

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Re: Mnumonics

[Ben J. Bloomgren]

Chris, these are masterful! had I known these back in 2011, I may have 
gotten through the beginner stages even that much faster. I add one more 
though:



Vo+F8, find your state.


Ben


On 7/11/2016 18:59, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
If anyone can think of any more of these, then let me know, and I'll 
add them to the list.  I however just sent the first handout to the 
students who will be attending the first Voiceover training class 
tomorrow. Basically, it's a list of a few mnumonics that throughout 
the corse, we'll be referencing.  I thought I'd send it here to the 
list as well as I want to help as many of you guys, struggling or not, 
as I can.  So here is a list of some little rhymes that might help 
people with rememberring some of the most important Voiceover 
concepts.  I trust that this will help someone out there!  Here we go.

V O keys, move with ease
Quick Nav on, VO keys gone
Interact, shows what's packed
V O Space, commits place
V O A, reads away!
VO+D, dock you'll see
VO+I, worth a try
Command F5, come alive!
Menu bars: V O M, Gets to them.
V O J, jump then say
V O K, learn each day
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Re: Mnumonics

[Sharon Hooley]

Yes, please send it to me also.

Thanks,


Sharon H.

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 8:05 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>That’s pretty cool, Chris. I’ve had clients that these type son things 
> really help. Please send me your final list if you wouldn’t mind.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 9:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If anyone can think of any more of these, then let me know, and I'll add 
>> them to the list.  I however just sent the first handout to the students who 
>> will be attending the first Voiceover training class tomorrow.  Basically, 
>> it's a list of a few mnumonics that throughout the corse, we'll be 
>> referencing.  I thought I'd send it here to the list as well as I want to 
>> help as many of you guys, struggling or not, as I can.  So here is a list of 
>> some little rhymes that might help people with rememberring some of the most 
>> important Voiceover concepts.  I trust that this will help someone out 
>> there!  Here we go.
>>  
>> V O keys, move with ease
>>  
>> Quick Nav on, VO keys gone
>>  
>> Interact, shows what's packed
>>  
>> V O Space, commits place
>>  
>> V O A, reads away!
>>  
>> VO+D, dock you'll see
>>  
>> VO+I, worth a try
>>  
>> Command F5, come alive!
>>  
>> Menu bars: V O M, Gets to them.
>>  
>> V O J, jump then say
>>  
>> V O K, learn each day
>>  
>> V O T, font tell me
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Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?

[Scott Granados]

First, the number in front of the CPU is basically meaningless.  The gigahertz 
number is just the frequency of the master clock.  There used to be a time 
where this had some meaning.  Chips were similar and one with a faster clock 
rate should in theory compute faster but that isn’t really the case any more.
Different instruction sets, cache sizes, pipelines, number of cores, 
word length, and on and on really are the factors.  A much better measurement 
is flops or floating point operations per second.  There are other bench mark 
standards as well but the basic idea is it’s more meaningful to actually 
measure the amount of data computed rather than the rate of the oscillator.
The way that multiprocessing used to be done is that say two processors 
would be set up in parallel and each would trigger by either the positive or 
negative of the wave form.  When the sine wave went negative it might trip 
processor A and when it went 180 degrees out of phase to the positive it would 
trip the other.  The Fairlight CMI II was a good example of a computer that 
works this way.
Now there’s all sorts of things happening with multiple processors per 
dye, possibly multiple processor chips per computer each with it’s own set of 
cores.  A Dec Alpha chip in the old days at 400 MHZ smoked the hell out of a 
Pentium at 900 MHZ because of the differences in the instruction set. If you 
want to see a discussion on benchmarking and FLOPS I’d highly suggest a trip 
over to top500.org.  It’s a fascinating look at the top 500 largest super 
computers in the unclassified space, their architecture and how each is 
measured in performance. 

Hope that clears it up a little.

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 9:01 PM, Brent Harding  wrote:
> 
> Yes, not sure how much the CPU speed number really means these days. It seems 
> that with the airs being in the 1.5 ghz range, are they really faster than 
> something, say, like an old 2008 Mac Book that had around a 2.3 or 2.4 gig 
> chip? I know we have more cores and hyperthreading now, but if we didn't care 
> that much about having the thinnest thing around, would we be better off 
> getting the regular Mac Book?
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 8:13 AM
> Subject: Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?
> 
> 
> A TB SSD would probably be a bit thick althoughI suppose you can wire the 
> chips in any physical configuration you want.  It’s not like the old IBM 990K 
> where you had to have non 90 degree turns in the wiring so the electrons 
> wouldn’t over heat at the turns and cause to much thermal noise.
> 
> Biggest problem with your proposed config would probably be battery drain but 
> give it a few years.  We’ll have way more than that in the form factor you 
> want.
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:18 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeahscott,
>> 
>> My perfect machine would be an 11inch mac book air with I7 quad core 
>> processor and at least 32 gig ram with a 1tb ssd harddrive.
>> 
>> I like the size of the machine, the work time is great and the size is easy 
>> to fit in a bag if I'm mobile.
>> But I can't run the things I really want to run at one time.
>> Ok so that type of processor and amount of ram would probably melt the 
>> keyboard but surely they could put better heat disapation into the design.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 3:27 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?
>> 
>> This is one area I have issues with apple.  Especially in the pro line I 
>> wish they would support more than 16GB.  As someone who likes to spin up a 
>> lot of VSRX instances,  it would be nice to have lots of extra memory.
>> 
>> Sure, I could get a Mac Pro and slap in a pile of cores and ram but I 
>> suspect I’m not throwing that in my work bag.:)
>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:26 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Max
>>> 
>>> The 13 inch mac book air with 8 gig ram and 512 gig ssd is a great
>>> machine, No mac pros now have the optical drive unless you get the older 
>>> model which there is only one model of.
>>> 
>>> The standard is a retina screan so higher resolution and the
>>> harddrives in the pros now are ssd So although the air can do what the
>>> pro does, the air only currently goes to 8gig ram, and 512 gb ssd, the 13 
>>> inch retina can give you up to 16 GIG ram and 1TB SSD But if your not doing 
>>> anything like major multimedia productions or editing then you shouldbe 
>>> able to get away with the air up speced.
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>>> Sent: 

Re: Mnumonics

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Sure!  As things progress, I'll send more of them to the list, if I think of 
any.  I ask any of you all on the list to do the same, if you think of any.
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  From: John Panarese 
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  Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 10:05 PM
  Subject: Re: Mnumonics


 That’s pretty cool, Chris. I’ve had clients that these type son things 
really help. Please send me your final list if you wouldn’t mind.



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On Jul 11, 2016, at 9:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


If anyone can think of any more of these, then let me know, and I'll add 
them to the list.  I however just sent the first handout to the students who 
will be attending the first Voiceover training class tomorrow.  Basically, it's 
a list of a few mnumonics that throughout the corse, we'll be referencing.  I 
thought I'd send it here to the list as well as I want to help as many of you 
guys, struggling or not, as I can.  So here is a list of some little rhymes 
that might help people with rememberring some of the most important Voiceover 
concepts.  I trust that this will help someone out there!  Here we go.

V O keys, move with ease

Quick Nav on, VO keys gone

Interact, shows what's packed

V O Space, commits place

V O A, reads away!

VO+D, dock you'll see

VO+I, worth a try

Command F5, come alive!

Menu bars: V O M, Gets to them.

V O J, jump then say

V O K, learn each day

V O T, font tell me


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Re: Mnumonics

[John Panarese]

   That’s pretty cool, Chris. I’ve had clients that these type son things 
really help. Please send me your final list if you wouldn’t mind.


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> On Jul 11, 2016, at 9:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> If anyone can think of any more of these, then let me know, and I'll add them 
> to the list.  I however just sent the first handout to the students who will 
> be attending the first Voiceover training class tomorrow.  Basically, it's a 
> list of a few mnumonics that throughout the corse, we'll be referencing.  I 
> thought I'd send it here to the list as well as I want to help as many of you 
> guys, struggling or not, as I can.  So here is a list of some little rhymes 
> that might help people with rememberring some of the most important Voiceover 
> concepts.  I trust that this will help someone out there!  Here we go.
>  
> V O keys, move with ease
>  
> Quick Nav on, VO keys gone
>  
> Interact, shows what's packed
>  
> V O Space, commits place
>  
> V O A, reads away!
>  
> VO+D, dock you'll see
>  
> VO+I, worth a try
>  
> Command F5, come alive!
>  
> Menu bars: V O M, Gets to them.
>  
> V O J, jump then say
>  
> V O K, learn each day
>  
> V O T, font tell me
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Mnumonics

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

If anyone can think of any more of these, then let me know, and I'll add them 
to the list.  I however just sent the first handout to the students who will be 
attending the first Voiceover training class tomorrow.  Basically, it's a list 
of a few mnumonics that throughout the corse, we'll be referencing.  I thought 
I'd send it here to the list as well as I want to help as many of you guys, 
struggling or not, as I can.  So here is a list of some little rhymes that 
might help people with rememberring some of the most important Voiceover 
concepts.  I trust that this will help someone out there!  Here we go.

V O keys, move with ease

Quick Nav on, VO keys gone

Interact, shows what's packed

V O Space, commits place

V O A, reads away!

VO+D, dock you'll see

VO+I, worth a try

Command F5, come alive!

Menu bars: V O M, Gets to them.

V O J, jump then say

V O K, learn each day

V O T, font tell me

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Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?

[Brent Harding]

Yes, not sure how much the CPU speed number really means these days. It 
seems that with the airs being in the 1.5 ghz range, are they really faster 
than something, say, like an old 2008 Mac Book that had around a 2.3 or 2.4 
gig chip? I know we have more cores and hyperthreading now, but if we didn't 
care that much about having the thinnest thing around, would we be better 
off getting the regular Mac Book?


- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Granados" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?


A TB SSD would probably be a bit thick althoughI suppose you can wire the 
chips in any physical configuration you want.  It’s not like the old IBM 
990K where you had to have non 90 degree turns in the wiring so the 
electrons wouldn’t over heat at the turns and cause to much thermal noise.


Biggest problem with your proposed config would probably be battery drain 
but give it a few years.  We’ll have way more than that in the form factor 
you want.



On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:18 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Yeahscott,

My perfect machine would be an 11inch mac book air with I7 quad core 
processor and at least 32 gig ram with a 1tb ssd harddrive.


I like the size of the machine, the work time is great and the size is 
easy to fit in a bag if I'm mobile.

But I can't run the things I really want to run at one time.
Ok so that type of processor and amount of ram would probably melt the 
keyboard but surely they could put better heat disapation into the design.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados

Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 3:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?

This is one area I have issues with apple.  Especially in the pro line I 
wish they would support more than 16GB.  As someone who likes to spin up a 
lot of VSRX instances,  it would be nice to have lots of extra memory.


Sure, I could get a Mac Pro and slap in a pile of cores and ram but I 
suspect I’m not throwing that in my work bag.:)



On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:26 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Max

The 13 inch mac book air with 8 gig ram and 512 gig ssd is a great
machine, No mac pros now have the optical drive unless you get the older 
model which there is only one model of.


The standard is a retina screan so higher resolution and the
harddrives in the pros now are ssd So although the air can do what the
pro does, the air only currently goes to 8gig ram, and 512 gb ssd, the 13 
inch retina can give you up to 16 GIG ram and 1TB SSD But if your not 
doing anything like major multimedia productions or editing then you 
shouldbe able to get away with the air up speced.


Hope that helps.
-Original Message-
From: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 3:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?

my brother just got an iPad pro and is really impressed with the 
processing speed and quality of the sound. I don't need a larger screen 
obviously. but sometimes I need to display images or video so someone can 
help me sort them for use on my website. that is why I'm settled on a 13 
inch screen or there abouts. thinking of a mac book pro and just dropping 
the cd rom to lose a little of the weight. another thing i'm sure of is 
this time I'm maxing out the ram and going with a SSD or compact flash 
hard drive. thanks, max On Jul 9, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:



The ipad pros come in a 12.? Inch and 9.7 inch models Apart from the
faster processor in the pros, I don't really see a lot more to them than 
the iPad air2  except may be sound but even then I thought it wasn't 
great for quad speakers.


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From: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2016 2:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?

sorry just assumed the air came in a 13 or close to that. what is the 
max hard drive for the iPad pro? does it assume the user will keep a lot 
of stuff on their cloud drive? thanks, max On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:59 PM, 
Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:


I'd definitely go with the Macbook Pro, but all that said, I have the 
12 inch IPad Pro 128 GB and I freaking swear by the thing!


I've never heard of an Air let alone any IPad model that is a 13 inch. 
Did I miss something obvious?

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Subject: mac book pro, 

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22Wow!  This 
is incredible!  Thanks for sharing.
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  From: Jonathan C. Cohn 
  To: Macvisionaries 
  Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:29 PM
  Subject: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22


  Well, this is interesting story. I don't believe they mention anything about 
braille. But at least it shows there are people  at Apple  working on 
accessibility.
  http://mashable.com/2016/07/10/apple-innovation-blind-engineer/#RihiKu145Oqr


  This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22
  Apple engineer Jordyn Castor has never been one for limitations. 

  She was born 15 weeks early, weighing just under two pounds. Her grandfather 
could hold her in the palm of his hand, and could even slide his wedding ring 
along her arm and over her shoulder. Doctors said she had a slim chance of 
survival.

  It was Castor's first brush with limited expectations — and also the first 
time she shattered them.

  Castor, now 22, has been blind since birth, a result of her early delivery. 
But throughout childhood, her parents encouraged her to defy expectations of 
people with disabilities, motivating her to be adventurous, hands-on and 
insatiably curious.

  It was that spirit that led to her interact with technology, whether it was 
the desktop computer her family bought when she was in second grade, or the 
classroom computer teachers encouraged her to use in school. 

"I could help make technology more accessible for blind users." 
  She says the adults in her life would often hand her a gadget, telling her to 
figure it out and show them how to use it. And she would.

  "I realized then I could code on the computer to have it fulfill the tasks I 
wanted it to," says Castor, whose current work focuses on enhancing features 
like VoiceOver for blind Apple users. "I came to realize that with my knowledge 
of computers and technology, I could help change the world for people with 
disabilities.

  "I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."

  Bringing a personal perspective to Apple innovation
  There's an often overlooked component of "diversity" in workplace initiatives 
— the need to include the perspectives of people with disabilities.

  Keeping tabs on the needs of the blind and low-vision community is a key 
component of Apple's innovation in accessibility. Castor is proof of how much 
that can strengthen a company.

  She was a college student at Michigan State University when she was first 
introduced to Apple at a Minneapolis job fair in 2015. Castor went to the 
gathering of employers, already knowing the tech giant would be there — and she 
was nervous.

  "You aren't going to know unless you try," she thought. "You aren't going to 
know unless you talk to them ... so go."


   

  Apple engineer Jordyn Castor poses for a headshot. Castor is a driving force 
behind accessibility of Apple products, especially for blind users.

  Image: Provided by Apple and Jordyn Castor

  Castor told Apple reps how amazed she was by the iPad she received as a gift 
for her 17th birthday just a few years earlier. It raised her passion for tech 
to another level — mainly due to the iPad's immediate accessibility.

  "Everything just worked and was accessible just right out of the box," Castor 
tells Mashable. "That was something I had never experienced before."

"I'm directly impacting the lives of the blind community." 
  Sarah Herrlinger, senior manager for global accessibility policy and 
initiatives at Apple, says a notable part of the company's steps toward 
accessibility is its dedication to making inclusivity features standard, not 
specialized. This allows those features to be dually accessible — both for 
getting the tech to more users, as well as keeping down costs.


  "[These features] show up on your device, regardless of if you are someone 
who needs them," Herrlinger tells Mashable. "By being built-in, they are also 
free. Historically, for the blind and visually impaired community, there are 
additional things you have to buy or things that you have to do to be able to 
use technology."

  At that job fair in 2015, Castor's passion for accessibility and Apple was 
evident. She was soon hired as an intern focusing on VoiceOver accessibility.

  As her internship came to a close, Castor's skills as an engineer and 
advocate for tech accessibility were too commanding to let go. She was hired 
full-time as an engineer on the accessibility design and quality team — a group 
of people Castor describes as "passionate" and "dedicated."

  "I'm directly impacting the lives of the blind community," she says of her 
work. "It's incredible."

  Innovation with blind users in mind
  Increased accessibility for all users is one of Apple's 

A Point of Clarification

[Les Kriegler]

In my last message, I mentioned using arrow keys to navigate the games list.  I 
am using a bluetooth keyboard.  If you are using the Siri Remote, swiping left 
and right, or up and down should have the same effect.  Sorry for any confusion.

Les

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Re: only want to back up a few items

[Larry Thacker Jr.]

Crash plan can be set up to do this and it’s free unless you want the online 
backup feature.  It is pretty accessible as far as I can remember.  I am using 
it but it is one of those things you only open if you need it.  I have a couple 
of complaints about it though.  You can’t get at it from the menu extras icon.  
You have to start the interface some other way.  The backups are not given 
human intelligible names, so you can’t just go browsing for a file you want to 
recover.  The perfect solution for this would be a Mac version of SyncBack for 
Windows, but alas there is not one.

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Is there a good back up/sync solution if I only want to back up a handful of 
> items?  For example, I want to back up music, photos, a folder inside 
> documents, and a couple protected DMG folders.  The DMG folders inside 
> documents often change and update, they are works in progress.
> 
> From my Googling, it sounds like it is difficult in Time Machine to only 
> include items.  Time Machine’s set up is to exclude.  If I want to back up a 
> handful, I imagine my exclusion list would be large.
> 
> Any advice or guidance on this?  Also, is there a way in Time Machine to 
> limit the number of snap shots?  I’m not really looking to access a snap shot 
> from 3 Months ago.
> 
> I remember I had this cool program in Windows, where I plugged in a USB drive 
> and had it set up to back up 3 or 4 folders on my system.  It had something 
> like 3 options to back up changes, replace, or duplicate.  If I remember 
> correctly, it was meant for the person that may take their USB drive to work 
> or school, change files on it, then want to save those changes to their 
> system at home.  They could then continue to work on the files at home and 
> save those changes back to the USB drive.  I cannot remember the name of the 
> program, but it met my needs perfectly.  :)
> 
> Thanks for your thoughts.
> 
> Traci
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Re: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I agree totally with your assessment here.  Although, regarding the MacPro, I 
installed a SSD into Bay 1 of mine, created a fusion drive between it and a 1 
TB spinner in Bay 2 and knocked it up to 16 GB of RAM.  It runs quite well with 
El Capitan now.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 11, 2016, at 15:21, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Nothing new here, Apple is just better at keeping consumers out of their 
widgets now then back in the Mac Plus days. They figured out that most people 
could pick up a long T15 Torx screwdriver without much trouble but getting 
things unsoldered without burning the board is a different thing. Then again, 
it used to be that a machine would barley creak past the three year mark before 
failing, if they made it that far. My 2008 Mac Pro and 2012 MacBook Pro are 
still humming along just fine at work. So are the PowerMac G4 in the basement 
and the 2009 Mini hooked to the TV at home. It's no longer planned obsolescence 
through hardware failure but by software that requires more and more. 
Eventually support is dropped and I have to make the call on whether I can live 
with a particular piece of hardware running software frozen in time. At least 
with the MacPro it can still run OSX 10.11 even if it's a bit pokey.

CB

On 7/9/16 8:01 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Apple doesn’t want you to upgrade at all.  For most products now once you buy 
> it your stuck with what you got.  As Simon mentioned there may be an access 
> panel on the iMac but for the most part everything is hard soldered to the 
> board.
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. Can you upgrade the RAM on the latest Mac Mini? I would be interested in 
>> doing this but I think Apple prefer we didn’t go to a local retailer for RAM 
>> upgrades.
>>> On 7 Jul 2016, at 18:20, Portia Scott  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Also, if you know a good computer store, or you know how to yourself,
>>> you can upgrade the ram, I believe up to 16 GB. At least, mine can be
>>> upgraded that much, yours may be only 8 GB. Still, that is decent.
>>> 
>>> Portia.
>>> 
>>> On 7/7/16, Portia Scott  wrote:
 Hey Arnold,
 
 That is the exact model I got, but it is from 2012.
 
 I honestly think it would be a great buy, as I've read the reviews on it.
 
 Portia.
 
 On 7/7/16, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> It is from 2011.  It has an i5, I think 2.5 gig, processor, but only 4
> gig
> of ram.  It has a 500 gig hard drive, which is plenty for me.  They want
> about $430 for this computer.  Thanks for any opinions.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
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Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[David Chittenden]

Actually, those stats are from a study which is about 18 years old. Even worse, 
however, is the stats about unemployment of the blind. Those stats, often sited 
in studies across the board, come from a study published in 1995 or 1997 (I 
would need to look it up again for the exact date). The most recent info I have 
seen was published by the state of Oregon in 2007 (if memory serves) which 
places blindness unemployment rate at around 60%, not the often sited 70% to 
80%. Note: I researched this in 2012, so am unaware of any data published since 
then.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: nexu...@icloud.com
Mobile: 0450 788 988
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> On 12 Jul 2016, at 08:30, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Interesting stats they mention about correlation between braille literacy and 
> employment. I just had an iOS developer reach out to me who said WWDC had a 
> heavy emphasis on accessibility this year. I've never been so I can't 
> compare. I hope that's true. Nothing but good can come from more developers 
> become aware and care.
> 
> CB
> 
>> On 7/11/16 2:29 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
>> Well, this is interesting story. I don't believe they mention anything about 
>> braille. But at least it shows there are people  at Apple  working on 
>> accessibility.
>> http://mashable.com/2016/07/10/apple-innovation-blind-engineer/#RihiKu145Oqr
>> 
>> This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22
>> 
>> Apple engineer Jordyn Castor has never been one for limitations.
>> 
>> She was born 15 weeks early, weighing just under two pounds. Her grandfather 
>> could hold her in the palm of his hand, and could even slide his wedding 
>> ring along her arm and over her shoulder. Doctors said she had a slim chance 
>> of survival.
>> 
>> It was Castor's first brush with limited expectations — and also the first 
>> time she shattered them.
>> 
>> Castor, now 22, has been blind since birth, a result of her early delivery. 
>> But throughout childhood, her parents encouraged her to defy expectations of 
>> people with disabilities, motivating her to be adventurous, hands-on and 
>> insatiably curious.
>> 
>> It was that spirit that led to her interact with technology, whether it was 
>> the desktop computer her family bought when she was in second grade, or the 
>> classroom computer teachers encouraged her to use in school.
>> 
>> "I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."
>> She says the adults in her life would often hand her a gadget, telling her 
>> to figure it out and show them how to use it. And she would.
>> 
>> "I realized then I could code on the computer to have it fulfill the tasks I 
>> wanted it to," says Castor, whose current work focuses on enhancing features 
>> like VoiceOver for blind Apple users. "I came to realize that with my 
>> knowledge of computers and technology, I could help change the world for 
>> people with disabilities.
>> 
>> "I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."
>> 
>> Bringing a personal perspective to Apple innovation
>> 
>> There's an often overlooked component of "diversity" in workplace 
>> initiatives — the need to include the perspectives of people with 
>> disabilities.
>> 
>> Keeping tabs on the needs of the blind and low-vision community is a key 
>> component of Apple's innovation in accessibility. Castor is proof of how 
>> much that can strengthen a company.
>> 
>> She was a college student at Michigan State University when she was first 
>> introduced to Apple at a Minneapolis job fair in 2015. Castor went to the 
>> gathering of employers, already knowing the tech giant would be there — and 
>> she was nervous.
>> 
>> "You aren't going to know unless you try," she thought. "You aren't going to 
>> know unless you talk to them ... so go."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Apple engineer Jordyn Castor poses for a headshot. Castor is a driving force 
>> behind accessibility of Apple products, especially for blind users.
>> 
>> Image: Provided by Apple and Jordyn Castor
>> 
>> Castor told Apple reps how amazed she was by the iPad she received as a gift 
>> for her 17th birthday just a few years earlier. It raised her passion for 
>> tech to another level — mainly due to the iPad's immediate accessibility.
>> 
>> "Everything just worked and was accessible just right out of the box," 
>> Castor tells Mashable. "That was something I had never experienced before."
>> 
>> "I'm directly impacting the lives of the blind community."
>> Sarah Herrlinger, senior manager for global accessibility policy and 
>> initiatives at Apple, says a notable part of the company's steps toward 
>> accessibility is its dedication to making inclusivity features standard, not 
>> specialized. This allows those features to be dually accessible — both for 
>> getting the tech to more users, as well 

Re: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Nothing new here, Apple is just better at keeping consumers out of their 
widgets now then back in the Mac Plus days. They figured out that most 
people could pick up a long T15 Torx screwdriver without much trouble 
but getting things unsoldered without burning the board is a different 
thing. Then again, it used to be that a machine would barley creak past 
the three year mark before failing, if they made it that far. My 2008 
Mac Pro and 2012 MacBook Pro are still humming along just fine at work. 
So are the PowerMac G4 in the basement and the 2009 Mini hooked to the 
TV at home. It's no longer planned obsolescence through hardware failure 
but by software that requires more and more. Eventually support is 
dropped and I have to make the call on whether I can live with a 
particular piece of hardware running software frozen in time. At least 
with the MacPro it can still run OSX 10.11 even if it's a bit pokey.


CB

On 7/9/16 8:01 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Apple doesn’t want you to upgrade at all.  For most products now once you buy 
it your stuck with what you got.  As Simon mentioned there may be an access 
panel on the iMac but for the most part everything is hard soldered to the 
board.


On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Saqib Hussain  wrote:

Hi. Can you upgrade the RAM on the latest Mac Mini? I would be interested in 
doing this but I think Apple prefer we didn’t go to a local retailer for RAM 
upgrades.

On 7 Jul 2016, at 18:20, Portia Scott  wrote:

Also, if you know a good computer store, or you know how to yourself,
you can upgrade the ram, I believe up to 16 GB. At least, mine can be
upgraded that much, yours may be only 8 GB. Still, that is decent.

Portia.

On 7/7/16, Portia Scott  wrote:

Hey Arnold,

That is the exact model I got, but it is from 2012.

I honestly think it would be a great buy, as I've read the reviews on it.

Portia.

On 7/7/16, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

It is from 2011.  It has an i5, I think 2.5 gig, processor, but only 4
gig
of ram.  It has a 500 gig hard drive, which is plenty for me.  They want
about $430 for this computer.  Thanks for any opinions.

Arnold Schmidt

Arnold Schmidt

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Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Interesting stats they mention about correlation between braille 
literacy and employment. I just had an iOS developer reach out to me who 
said WWDC had a heavy emphasis on accessibility this year. I've never 
been so I can't compare. I hope that's true. Nothing but good can come 
from more developers become aware and care.


CB

On 7/11/16 2:29 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22
Well, this is interesting story. I don't believe they mention anything 
about braille. But at least it shows there are people  at Apple 
 working on accessibility.

http://mashable.com/2016/07/10/apple-innovation-blind-engineer/#RihiKu145Oqr


  This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

Apple engineer Jordyn Castor has never been one for limitations.

She was born 15 weeks early, weighing just under two pounds. Her 
grandfather could hold her in the palm of his hand, and could even 
slide his wedding ring along her arm and over her shoulder. Doctors 
said she had a slim chance of survival.


It was Castor's first brush with limited expectations — and also the 
first time she shattered them.


Castor, now 22, has been blind since birth, a result of her early 
delivery. But throughout childhood, her parents encouraged her to defy 
expectations of people with disabilities, motivating her to be 
adventurous, hands-on and insatiably curious.


It was that spirit that led to her interact with technology, whether 
it was the desktop computer her family bought when she was in second 
grade, or the classroom computer teachers encouraged her to use in 
school.


"I could help make technology more accessible for blind users." 

She says the adults in her life would often hand her a gadget, telling 
her to figure it out and show them how to use it. And she would.


"I realized then I could code on the computer to have it fulfill the 
tasks I wanted it to," says Castor, whose current work focuses on 
enhancing features like VoiceOver for blind Apple users. "I came to 
realize that with my knowledge of computers and technology, I could 
help change the world for people with disabilities.


"I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."


Bringing a personal perspective to Apple innovation

There's an often overlooked component of "diversity" in workplace 
initiatives — the need to include the perspectives of people with 
disabilities.


Keeping tabs on the needs of the blind and low-vision community is a 
key component of Apple's innovation in accessibility. Castor is proof 
of how much that can strengthen a company.


She was a college student at Michigan State University when she was 
first introduced to Apple at a Minneapolis job fair in 2015. Castor 
went to the gathering of employers, already knowing the tech giant 
would be there — and she was nervous.


"You aren't going to know unless you try," she thought. "You aren't 
going to know unless you talk to them ... so go."


Apple engineer Jordyn Castor poses for a headshot. Castor is a driving 
force behind accessibility of Apple products, especially for blind users.


Image: Provided by Apple and Jordyn Castor

Castor told Apple reps how amazed she was by the iPad she received as 
a gift for her 17th birthday just a few years earlier. It raised her 
passion for tech to another level — mainly due to the iPad's immediate 
accessibility.


"Everything just worked and was accessible just right out of the box," 
Castor tells /Mashable/. "That was something I had never experienced 
before."


"I'm directly impacting the lives of the blind community." 

Sarah Herrlinger, senior manager for global accessibility policy and 
initiatives at Apple, says a notable part of the company's steps 
toward accessibility is its dedication to making inclusivity features 
standard, not specialized. This allows those features to be dually 
accessible — both for getting the tech to more users, as well as 
keeping down costs.


"[These features] show up on your device, regardless of if you are 
someone who needs them," Herrlinger tells /Mashable/. "By being 
built-in, they are also free. Historically, for the blind and visually 
impaired community, there are additional things you have to buy or 
things that you have to do to be able to use technology."


At that job fair in 2015, Castor's passion for accessibility and Apple 
was evident. She was soon hired as an intern focusing on VoiceOver 
accessibility.


As her internship came to a close, Castor's skills as an engineer and 
advocate for tech accessibility were too commanding to let go. She was 
hired full-time as an engineer on the accessibility design and quality 
team — a group of people Castor describes as "passionate" and "dedicated."


"I'm directly impacting the lives of the blind community," she says of 
her work. "It's incredible."



Innovation with blind users in mind

Increased accessibility for all users is one of Apple's 

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[David Chittenden]

Yes, they say a couple things about braille. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Jul 2016, at 06:29, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Well, this is interesting story. I don't believe they mention anything about 
> braille. But at least it shows there are people  at Apple  working on 
> accessibility.
> http://mashable.com/2016/07/10/apple-innovation-blind-engineer/#RihiKu145Oqr
> 
> This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22
> 
> Apple engineer Jordyn Castor has never been one for limitations.
> 
> She was born 15 weeks early, weighing just under two pounds. Her grandfather 
> could hold her in the palm of his hand, and could even slide his wedding ring 
> along her arm and over her shoulder. Doctors said she had a slim chance of 
> survival.
> 
> It was Castor's first brush with limited expectations — and also the first 
> time she shattered them.
> 
> Castor, now 22, has been blind since birth, a result of her early delivery. 
> But throughout childhood, her parents encouraged her to defy expectations of 
> people with disabilities, motivating her to be adventurous, hands-on and 
> insatiably curious.
> 
> It was that spirit that led to her interact with technology, whether it was 
> the desktop computer her family bought when she was in second grade, or the 
> classroom computer teachers encouraged her to use in school.
> 
> "I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."
> She says the adults in her life would often hand her a gadget, telling her to 
> figure it out and show them how to use it. And she would.
> 
> "I realized then I could code on the computer to have it fulfill the tasks I 
> wanted it to," says Castor, whose current work focuses on enhancing features 
> like VoiceOver for blind Apple users. "I came to realize that with my 
> knowledge of computers and technology, I could help change the world for 
> people with disabilities.
> 
> "I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."
> 
> Bringing a personal perspective to Apple innovation
> 
> There's an often overlooked component of "diversity" in workplace initiatives 
> — the need to include the perspectives of people with disabilities.
> 
> Keeping tabs on the needs of the blind and low-vision community is a key 
> component of Apple's innovation in accessibility. Castor is proof of how much 
> that can strengthen a company.
> 
> She was a college student at Michigan State University when she was first 
> introduced to Apple at a Minneapolis job fair in 2015. Castor went to the 
> gathering of employers, already knowing the tech giant would be there — and 
> she was nervous.
> 
> "You aren't going to know unless you try," she thought. "You aren't going to 
> know unless you talk to them ... so go."
> 
> 
> 
> Apple engineer Jordyn Castor poses for a headshot. Castor is a driving force 
> behind accessibility of Apple products, especially for blind users.
> 
> Image: Provided by Apple and Jordyn Castor
> 
> Castor told Apple reps how amazed she was by the iPad she received as a gift 
> for her 17th birthday just a few years earlier. It raised her passion for 
> tech to another level — mainly due to the iPad's immediate accessibility.
> 
> "Everything just worked and was accessible just right out of the box," Castor 
> tells Mashable. "That was something I had never experienced before."
> 
> "I'm directly impacting the lives of the blind community."
> Sarah Herrlinger, senior manager for global accessibility policy and 
> initiatives at Apple, says a notable part of the company's steps toward 
> accessibility is its dedication to making inclusivity features standard, not 
> specialized. This allows those features to be dually accessible — both for 
> getting the tech to more users, as well as keeping down costs.
> 
> "[These features] show up on your device, regardless of if you are someone 
> who needs them," Herrlinger tells Mashable. "By being built-in, they are also 
> free. Historically, for the blind and visually impaired community, there are 
> additional things you have to buy or things that you have to do to be able to 
> use technology."
> 
> At that job fair in 2015, Castor's passion for accessibility and Apple was 
> evident. She was soon hired as an intern focusing on VoiceOver accessibility.
> 
> As her internship came to a close, Castor's skills as an engineer and 
> advocate for tech accessibility were too commanding to let go. She was hired 
> full-time as an engineer on the accessibility design and quality team — a 
> group of people Castor describes as "passionate" and "dedicated."
> 
> "I'm directly impacting the lives of the blind community," she says of her 
> work. "It's incredible."
> 
> Innovation with blind users in mind
> 
> Increased accessibility for all users is one of Apple's driving values, under 
> the mantra "inclusion inspires innovation."
> 
> 

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[Katie Zodrow]

Thanks for posting the article!
 Wow!! That's great there's a really passionate young blind engineer working at 
Apple doing awesome work. I had no idea there were would be so many innovations 
for accessibility this fall with enhancing VoiceOver features. That's great! 
Thanks for sharing this.
Katie
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Well, this is interesting story. I don't believe they mention anything about 
> braille. But at least it shows there are people  at Apple  working on 
> accessibility.
> http://mashable.com/2016/07/10/apple-innovation-blind-engineer/#RihiKu145Oqr
> 
> This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22
> 
> Apple engineer Jordyn Castor has never been one for limitations.
> 
> She was born 15 weeks early, weighing just under two pounds. Her grandfather 
> could hold her in the palm of his hand, and could even slide his wedding ring 
> along her arm and over her shoulder. Doctors said she had a slim chance of 
> survival.
> 
> It was Castor's first brush with limited expectations — and also the first 
> time she shattered them.
> 
> Castor, now 22, has been blind since birth, a result of her early delivery. 
> But throughout childhood, her parents encouraged her to defy expectations of 
> people with disabilities, motivating her to be adventurous, hands-on and 
> insatiably curious.
> 
> It was that spirit that led to her interact with technology, whether it was 
> the desktop computer her family bought when she was in second grade, or the 
> classroom computer teachers encouraged her to use in school.
> 
> "I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."
> She says the adults in her life would often hand her a gadget, telling her to 
> figure it out and show them how to use it. And she would.
> 
> "I realized then I could code on the computer to have it fulfill the tasks I 
> wanted it to," says Castor, whose current work focuses on enhancing features 
> like VoiceOver for blind Apple users. "I came to realize that with my 
> knowledge of computers and technology, I could help change the world for 
> people with disabilities.
> 
> "I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."
> 
> Bringing a personal perspective to Apple innovation
> 
> There's an often overlooked component of "diversity" in workplace initiatives 
> — the need to include the perspectives of people with disabilities.
> 
> Keeping tabs on the needs of the blind and low-vision community is a key 
> component of Apple's innovation in accessibility. Castor is proof of how much 
> that can strengthen a company.
> 
> She was a college student at Michigan State University when she was first 
> introduced to Apple at a Minneapolis job fair in 2015. Castor went to the 
> gathering of employers, already knowing the tech giant would be there — and 
> she was nervous.
> 
> "You aren't going to know unless you try," she thought. "You aren't going to 
> know unless you talk to them ... so go."
> 
> 
> 
> Apple engineer Jordyn Castor poses for a headshot. Castor is a driving force 
> behind accessibility of Apple products, especially for blind users.
> 
> Image: Provided by Apple and Jordyn Castor
> 
> Castor told Apple reps how amazed she was by the iPad she received as a gift 
> for her 17th birthday just a few years earlier. It raised her passion for 
> tech to another level — mainly due to the iPad's immediate accessibility.
> 
> "Everything just worked and was accessible just right out of the box," Castor 
> tells Mashable. "That was something I had never experienced before."
> 
> "I'm directly impacting the lives of the blind community."
> Sarah Herrlinger, senior manager for global accessibility policy and 
> initiatives at Apple, says a notable part of the company's steps toward 
> accessibility is its dedication to making inclusivity features standard, not 
> specialized. This allows those features to be dually accessible — both for 
> getting the tech to more users, as well as keeping down costs.
> 
> "[These features] show up on your device, regardless of if you are someone 
> who needs them," Herrlinger tells Mashable. "By being built-in, they are also 
> free. Historically, for the blind and visually impaired community, there are 
> additional things you have to buy or things that you have to do to be able to 
> use technology."
> 
> At that job fair in 2015, Castor's passion for accessibility and Apple was 
> evident. She was soon hired as an intern focusing on VoiceOver accessibility.
> 
> As her internship came to a close, Castor's skills as an engineer and 
> advocate for tech accessibility were too commanding to let go. She was hired 
> full-time as an engineer on the accessibility design and quality team — a 
> group of people Castor describes as "passionate" and "dedicated."
> 
> "I'm directly impacting the lives of the blind community," she says of her 
> work. "It's incredible."
> 
> 

Re: This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Jonathan,
Thanks for sharing this. :)
Looks like Jordyn  is going to be a fantastic "DESIGN engineer"!
> 

Talk soon


On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

> Well, this is interesting story. I don't believe they mention anything about 
> braille. But at least it shows there are people  at Apple  working on 
> accessibility.
> http://mashable.com/2016/07/10/apple-innovation-blind-engineer/#RihiKu145Oqr
> 
> Apple engineer Jordyn Castor has never been one for limitations.
> 
> She was born 15 weeks early, weighing just under two pounds. Her grandfather 
> could hold her in the palm of his hand, and could even slide his wedding ring 
> along her arm and over her shoulder. Doctors said she had a slim chance of 
> survival.
> 
> It was Castor's first brush with limited expectations — and also the first 
> time she shattered them.
> 
> Castor, now 22, has been blind since birth, a result of her early delivery. 
> But throughout childhood, her parents encouraged her to defy expectations of 
> people with disabilities, motivating her to be adventurous, hands-on and 
> insatiably curious.
> 
> It was that spirit that led to her interact with technology, whether it was 
> the desktop computer her family bought when she was in second grade, or the 
> classroom computer teachers encouraged her to use in school.
> 
> "I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."
> She says the adults in her life would often hand her a gadget, telling her to 
> figure it out and show them how to use it. And she would.
> 
> "I realized then I could code on the computer to have it fulfill the tasks I 
> wanted it to," says Castor, whose current work focuses on enhancing features 
> like VoiceOver for blind Apple users. "I came to realize that with my 
> knowledge of computers and technology, I could help change the world for 
> people with disabilities.
> 
> "I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."
> 
> Bringing a personal perspective to Apple innovation
> 
> There's an often overlooked component of "diversity" in workplace initiatives 
> — the need to include the perspectives of people with disabilities.
> 
> Keeping tabs on the needs of the blind and low-vision community is a key 
> component of Apple's innovation in accessibility. Castor is proof of how much 
> that can strengthen a company.
> 
> She was a college student at Michigan State University when she was first 
> introduced to Apple at a Minneapolis job fair in 2015. Castor went to the 
> gathering of employers, already knowing the tech giant would be there — and 
> she was nervous.
> 
> "You aren't going to know unless you try," she thought. "You aren't going to 
> know unless you talk to them ... so go."
> 
> 
> 
> Apple engineer Jordyn Castor poses for a headshot. Castor is a driving force 
> behind accessibility of Apple products, especially for blind users.
> 
> Image: Provided by Apple and Jordyn Castor
> 
> Castor told Apple reps how amazed she was by the iPad she received as a gift 
> for her 17th birthday just a few years earlier. It raised her passion for 
> tech to another level — mainly due to the iPad's immediate accessibility.
> 
> "Everything just worked and was accessible just right out of the box," Castor 
> tells Mashable. "That was something I had never experienced before."
> 
> "I'm directly impacting the lives of the blind community."
> Sarah Herrlinger, senior manager for global accessibility policy and 
> initiatives at Apple, says a notable part of the company's steps toward 
> accessibility is its dedication to making inclusivity features standard, not 
> specialized. This allows those features to be dually accessible — both for 
> getting the tech to more users, as well as keeping down costs.
> 
> "[These features] show up on your device, regardless of if you are someone 
> who needs them," Herrlinger tells Mashable. "By being built-in, they are also 
> free. Historically, for the blind and visually impaired community, there are 
> additional things you have to buy or things that you have to do to be able to 
> use technology."
> 
> At that job fair in 2015, Castor's passion for accessibility and Apple was 
> evident. She was soon hired as an intern focusing on VoiceOver accessibility.
> 
> As her internship came to a close, Castor's skills as an engineer and 
> advocate for tech accessibility were too commanding to let go. She was hired 
> full-time as an engineer on the accessibility design and quality team — a 
> group of people Castor describes as "passionate" and "dedicated."
> 
> "I'm directly impacting the lives of the blind community," she says of her 
> work. "It's incredible."
> 
> Innovation with blind users in mind
> 
> Increased accessibility for all users is one of Apple's driving values, under 
> the mantra "inclusion inspires innovation."
> 
> Herrlinger says the company loves what it makes, and wants what it makes to 
> be available to everyone. She describes the need to 

This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Well, this is interesting story. I don't believe they mention anything about 
braille. But at least it shows there are people  at Apple  working on 
accessibility.
http://mashable.com/2016/07/10/apple-innovation-blind-engineer/#RihiKu145Oqr

This blind Apple engineer is transforming the tech world at only 22

Apple engineer Jordyn Castor has never been one for limitations.

She was born 15 weeks early, weighing just under two pounds. Her grandfather 
could hold her in the palm of his hand, and could even slide his wedding ring 
along her arm and over her shoulder. Doctors said she had a slim chance of 
survival.

It was Castor's first brush with limited expectations — and also the first time 
she shattered them.

Castor, now 22, has been blind since birth, a result of her early delivery. But 
throughout childhood, her parents encouraged her to defy expectations of people 
with disabilities, motivating her to be adventurous, hands-on and insatiably 
curious.

It was that spirit that led to her interact with technology, whether it was the 
desktop computer her family bought when she was in second grade, or the 
classroom computer teachers encouraged her to use in school.

"I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."
She says the adults in her life would often hand her a gadget, telling her to 
figure it out and show them how to use it. And she would.

"I realized then I could code on the computer to have it fulfill the tasks I 
wanted it to," says Castor, whose current work focuses on enhancing features 
like VoiceOver for blind Apple users. "I came to realize that with my knowledge 
of computers and technology, I could help change the world for people with 
disabilities.

"I could help make technology more accessible for blind users."

Bringing a personal perspective to Apple innovation

There's an often overlooked component of "diversity" in workplace initiatives — 
the need to include the perspectives of people with disabilities.

Keeping tabs on the needs of the blind and low-vision community is a key 
component of Apple's innovation in accessibility. Castor is proof of how much 
that can strengthen a company.

She was a college student at Michigan State University when she was first 
introduced to Apple at a Minneapolis job fair in 2015. Castor went to the 
gathering of employers, already knowing the tech giant would be there — and she 
was nervous.

"You aren't going to know unless you try," she thought. "You aren't going to 
know unless you talk to them ... so go."



Apple engineer Jordyn Castor poses for a headshot. Castor is a driving force 
behind accessibility of Apple products, especially for blind users.

Image: Provided by Apple and Jordyn Castor

Castor told Apple reps how amazed she was by the iPad she received as a gift 
for her 17th birthday just a few years earlier. It raised her passion for tech 
to another level — mainly due to the iPad's immediate accessibility.

"Everything just worked and was accessible just right out of the box," Castor 
tells Mashable. "That was something I had never experienced before."

"I'm directly impacting the lives of the blind community."
Sarah Herrlinger, senior manager for global accessibility policy and 
initiatives at Apple, says a notable part of the company's steps toward 
accessibility is its dedication to making inclusivity features standard, not 
specialized. This allows those features to be dually accessible — both for 
getting the tech to more users, as well as keeping down costs.

"[These features] show up on your device, regardless of if you are someone who 
needs them," Herrlinger tells Mashable. "By being built-in, they are also free. 
Historically, for the blind and visually impaired community, there are 
additional things you have to buy or things that you have to do to be able to 
use technology."

At that job fair in 2015, Castor's passion for accessibility and Apple was 
evident. She was soon hired as an intern focusing on VoiceOver accessibility.

As her internship came to a close, Castor's skills as an engineer and advocate 
for tech accessibility were too commanding to let go. She was hired full-time 
as an engineer on the accessibility design and quality team — a group of people 
Castor describes as "passionate" and "dedicated."

"I'm directly impacting the lives of the blind community," she says of her 
work. "It's incredible."

Innovation with blind users in mind

Increased accessibility for all users is one of Apple's driving values, under 
the mantra "inclusion inspires innovation."

Herrlinger says the company loves what it makes, and wants what it makes to be 
available to everyone. She describes the need to continuously innovate with 
accessibility in mind as part of Apple's DNA.

"Accessibility is something that is never-ending," Herrlinger says. "It isn't 
something where you just do it once, check that box and then move on to do 
other things."

And it's a dedication that isn't going unnoticed by the 

Re: only want to back up a few items

[Scott Granados]

Tim and others, what about something like superdooper?


You could also do this with a network drive and a script in cron but that is 
probably outside the scope of this list.
 
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Time Machine may still work.  If you tell it to exclude the /Applications 
> folder, the system folder and the Library folder, it will bring up a warning 
> about whether you wish to exclude some System files or all of them.  If you 
> choose all of them, then you can significantly reduce the backup size.  I 
> believe that CCC or SuperDuper may work for you as well, although I haven't 
> used them for backups like this.  The beauty of using any of these solutions 
> is that they will perform incremental backups automatically, just saving what 
> has been changed.  this is usually much more efficient than simply copying 
> things over every few days.
> 
> Later..
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 09:35, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I plan on using a 32GB USB drive.  It’s tiny, so if I want to have it 
> with me, I have my most important folders from my Mac.  I’m not clear if Time 
> Machine is my best solution for backing up/syncing half a dozen folders/files.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Kimber Gardner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How about an external drive or cloud storage?
>> 
>> On 7/11/16, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> Is there a good back up/sync solution if I only want to back up a handful of
>>> items?  For example, I want to back up music, photos, a folder inside
>>> documents, and a couple protected DMG folders.  The DMG folders inside
>>> documents often change and update, they are works in progress.
>>> 
>>> From my Googling, it sounds like it is difficult in Time Machine to only
>>> include items.  Time Machine’s set up is to exclude.  If I want to back up a
>>> handful, I imagine my exclusion list would be large.
>>> 
>>> Any advice or guidance on this?  Also, is there a way in Time Machine to
>>> limit the number of snap shots?  I’m not really looking to access a snap
>>> shot from 3 Months ago.
>>> 
>>> I remember I had this cool program in Windows, where I plugged in a USB
>>> drive and had it set up to back up 3 or 4 folders on my system.  It had
>>> something like 3 options to back up changes, replace, or duplicate.  If I
>>> remember correctly, it was meant for the person that may take their USB
>>> drive to work or school, change files on it, then want to save those changes
>>> to their system at home.  They could then continue to work on the files at
>>> home and save those changes back to the USB drive.  I cannot remember the
>>> name of the program, but it met my needs perfectly.  :)
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>> 
>>> Traci
>>> 
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Re: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, thank you for the link.  I'll go have a look.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Kilburn" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital 
Diary




Hi,

Sounds like you're doing things right.  Visit 
https://marinersoftware.deskpro.com/kb/articles/introduction-to-journal-entry-transfer-syncing-macjournal-for-iphone 
for their explanation about things.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 11, 2016, at 08:58, Kimber Gardner  
wrote:


I just submitted a good review and a 5 star rating on the app store
for this app.

But I have a question. I can't seem to figure out how to sync across
devices. I have the app on my iPhone and iPad, both are on the same
wifi but I don't see either device available for syncing. What am I
missing?

Thanks,
Kimber

On 7/11/16, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi Chris,

MacJournal has been accessible since way back in the mid 00's.  Mariner
Software has a huge commitment to accessibility and this is not an 
accident

at all.  There are also other apps under their umbrella that are very
accessible as well, although I haven't visited them for quite a bit.
Regarding contacting the developer, that's not a bad idea, but I think 
that
you should also pop a positive review in there to counter the poor one 
that

isn't your experience at all.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 11, 2016, at 05:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland 


wrote:

Mark? Bro? Wen you find a duzy, Man!  You! really! find a duzy!  I just 
took

a very hard chance.  The app in the mac app store on the OSX side is 30
bucks, but oh! sweet! Lord! is it accessible, and worth every single 
penny

of it!

This, by far! and away has gotta be the best Journal app I think I've yet
ever! seen, regardless the platform or OS!

This was honestly probably one of the best $30 investments I yet have 
made!

Truly, this dev has put huge huge huge! efforts into making the app
accessible.  I almost wonder if he didn't make this thing accessible by
sheer accident.  He's gotta have done this purposely.  I mean, it is that
good!

ON the mac side, it is so freaking accessible, to the point where F1 
through

F3 literally will even jump you around the screen from your topics list,
your calendar, etc.  Literally 95% of things have keyboard shortcuts.

Even on the iOS version, if you have a bluetooth keyboard, he's put 
keyboard

shortcuts in the app for the common tasks.

BTW, it's looking like in answer to my audio question, the iOS version 
won't

let you really do audio, but the mac version sure as day will!

So yeah guys, there are two reviews in the app store both by the same
person.  He gave it a 1 star rating, and just! brutally! and I mean
brutally! mutilated! this poor developer!  It almost made me cry when I 
saw

it.  LOL!  OK, not literally, but yeah...

Those are the only two reviews there though, both by that same guy, and 
both

are horrible ratings.

Guys, we really! really! should write this dev and thank him for such a
great app, and for being so! keened, whether he meant to be or not, to
accessibility.

This is exactly how accessibility should be!  This app is just! 
beautiful!

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:37 AM
Subject: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital 
Diary




Hello Everyone,

I was just using MacJournal for IPhone, a great little iOS app, and
thought
I would remind those of you, who like to journal, that it is VoiceOver
accessible.

Just so you know, I have never used this tool in OS X so cannot speak to
its
VoiceOver accessibility on the Mac, itself.

Mark

MacJournal for iPhone
By Mariner Software

Description

Talk about some serious journaling experience!

Introduced for the Mac in 2005 and the iPhone in 2010 (and the iPad
version
shortly thereafter) MacJournal for iPhone offers an even greater
opportunity
to document important life events while on the go. It's no wonder
MacJournal
is the world's most popular journaling app for the Mac.

Out and about? You know what we mean. Run here. Run there. And in 
between

all that running, events happen. Then, when you're able to stop and take
a
breath, you think to yourself, "Now, what was that thing that happened? 
I

wanted to write it down." - only to realize that you forgot what it was.

Now you don't have to wait to until you sit at your desk to make an 
entry

in
your journal. MacJournal for iPhone gives you the ability to record an
event
or that special moment.

Organize, chronicle and edit your 

Re: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I haven't quite gotten that far yet.  This is definitely something I'd also 
like to know, if someone can help us both out.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kimber Gardner" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital 
Diary




I just submitted a good review and a 5 star rating on the app store
for this app.

But I have a question. I can't seem to figure out how to sync across
devices. I have the app on my iPhone and iPad, both are on the same
wifi but I don't see either device available for syncing. What am I
missing?

Thanks,
Kimber

On 7/11/16, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi Chris,

MacJournal has been accessible since way back in the mid 00's.  Mariner
Software has a huge commitment to accessibility and this is not an 
accident

at all.  There are also other apps under their umbrella that are very
accessible as well, although I haven't visited them for quite a bit.
Regarding contacting the developer, that's not a bad idea, but I think 
that
you should also pop a positive review in there to counter the poor one 
that

isn't your experience at all.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 11, 2016, at 05:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland 


wrote:

Mark? Bro? Wen you find a duzy, Man!  You! really! find a duzy!  I just 
took

a very hard chance.  The app in the mac app store on the OSX side is 30
bucks, but oh! sweet! Lord! is it accessible, and worth every single 
penny

of it!

This, by far! and away has gotta be the best Journal app I think I've yet
ever! seen, regardless the platform or OS!

This was honestly probably one of the best $30 investments I yet have 
made!

Truly, this dev has put huge huge huge! efforts into making the app
accessible.  I almost wonder if he didn't make this thing accessible by
sheer accident.  He's gotta have done this purposely.  I mean, it is that
good!

ON the mac side, it is so freaking accessible, to the point where F1 
through

F3 literally will even jump you around the screen from your topics list,
your calendar, etc.  Literally 95% of things have keyboard shortcuts.

Even on the iOS version, if you have a bluetooth keyboard, he's put 
keyboard

shortcuts in the app for the common tasks.

BTW, it's looking like in answer to my audio question, the iOS version 
won't

let you really do audio, but the mac version sure as day will!

So yeah guys, there are two reviews in the app store both by the same
person.  He gave it a 1 star rating, and just! brutally! and I mean
brutally! mutilated! this poor developer!  It almost made me cry when I 
saw

it.  LOL!  OK, not literally, but yeah...

Those are the only two reviews there though, both by that same guy, and 
both

are horrible ratings.

Guys, we really! really! should write this dev and thank him for such a
great app, and for being so! keened, whether he meant to be or not, to
accessibility.

This is exactly how accessibility should be!  This app is just! 
beautiful!

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:37 AM
Subject: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital 
Diary




Hello Everyone,

I was just using MacJournal for IPhone, a great little iOS app, and
thought
I would remind those of you, who like to journal, that it is VoiceOver
accessible.

Just so you know, I have never used this tool in OS X so cannot speak to
its
VoiceOver accessibility on the Mac, itself.

Mark

MacJournal for iPhone
By Mariner Software

Description

Talk about some serious journaling experience!

Introduced for the Mac in 2005 and the iPhone in 2010 (and the iPad
version
shortly thereafter) MacJournal for iPhone offers an even greater
opportunity
to document important life events while on the go. It's no wonder
MacJournal
is the world's most popular journaling app for the Mac.

Out and about? You know what we mean. Run here. Run there. And in 
between

all that running, events happen. Then, when you're able to stop and take
a
breath, you think to yourself, "Now, what was that thing that happened? 
I

wanted to write it down." - only to realize that you forgot what it was.

Now you don't have to wait to until you sit at your desk to make an 
entry

in
your journal. MacJournal for iPhone gives you the ability to record an
event
or that special moment.

Organize, chronicle and edit your important information fast and on the
fly.
Best of all, unlike other journaling apps out there, you can blog to any
of
the popular blog sites using MacJournal. Not a blogger? Use MacJournal 
on

its own or share your MacJournal data over the cloud with 

Re: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Tim,

Oh, you better believe! I put a review in there!  I made it very very clear 
that this app is incredible!

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Kilburn" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital 
Diary



Hi Chris,

MacJournal has been accessible since way back in the mid 00's.  Mariner 
Software has a huge commitment to accessibility and this is not an accident 
at all.  There are also other apps under their umbrella that are very 
accessible as well, although I haven't visited them for quite a bit. 
Regarding contacting the developer, that's not a bad idea, but I think that 
you should also pop a positive review in there to counter the poor one that 
isn't your experience at all.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 11, 2016, at 05:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


Mark? Bro? Wen you find a duzy, Man!  You! really! find a duzy!  I just took 
a very hard chance.  The app in the mac app store on the OSX side is 30 
bucks, but oh! sweet! Lord! is it accessible, and worth every single penny 
of it!


This, by far! and away has gotta be the best Journal app I think I've yet 
ever! seen, regardless the platform or OS!


This was honestly probably one of the best $30 investments I yet have made! 
Truly, this dev has put huge huge huge! efforts into making the app 
accessible.  I almost wonder if he didn't make this thing accessible by 
sheer accident.  He's gotta have done this purposely.  I mean, it is that 
good!


ON the mac side, it is so freaking accessible, to the point where F1 through 
F3 literally will even jump you around the screen from your topics list, 
your calendar, etc.  Literally 95% of things have keyboard shortcuts.


Even on the iOS version, if you have a bluetooth keyboard, he's put keyboard 
shortcuts in the app for the common tasks.


BTW, it's looking like in answer to my audio question, the iOS version won't 
let you really do audio, but the mac version sure as day will!


So yeah guys, there are two reviews in the app store both by the same 
person.  He gave it a 1 star rating, and just! brutally! and I mean 
brutally! mutilated! this poor developer!  It almost made me cry when I saw 
it.  LOL!  OK, not literally, but yeah...


Those are the only two reviews there though, both by that same guy, and both 
are horrible ratings.


Guys, we really! really! should write this dev and thank him for such a 
great app, and for being so! keened, whether he meant to be or not, to 
accessibility.


This is exactly how accessibility should be!  This app is just! beautiful!
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:37 AM
Subject: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary



Hello Everyone,

I was just using MacJournal for IPhone, a great little iOS app, and 
thought

I would remind those of you, who like to journal, that it is VoiceOver
accessible.

Just so you know, I have never used this tool in OS X so cannot speak to 
its

VoiceOver accessibility on the Mac, itself.

Mark

MacJournal for iPhone
By Mariner Software

Description

Talk about some serious journaling experience!

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Re: only want to back up a few items

[E.T.]

   You are probably right and since I use CCC, a task can be created to 
do just what Traci wants.


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On 7/11/2016 8:49 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

I believe that it may be difficult to create a workflow in Automator that would 
accomplish this.  Someone could correct me, but it's stock workflows are not 
designed for this sort of solution.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 11, 2016, at 09:42, E.T.  wrote:

  I have not used it but Automator cones ti mind. Its in your Applications 
folder.

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On 7/11/2016 8:35 AM, Traci Duncan wrote:

Yes, I plan on using a 32GB USB drive.  It’s tiny, so if I want to have it with 
me, I have my most important folders from my Mac.  I’m not clear if Time 
Machine is my best solution for backing up/syncing half a dozen folders/files.

Thanks,
Traci


On Jul 11, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Kimber Gardner  wrote:

How about an external drive or cloud storage?

On 7/11/16, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Is there a good back up/sync solution if I only want to back up a handful of
items?  For example, I want to back up music, photos, a folder inside
documents, and a couple protected DMG folders.  The DMG folders inside
documents often change and update, they are works in progress.

From my Googling, it sounds like it is difficult in Time Machine to only
include items.  Time Machine’s set up is to exclude.  If I want to back up a
handful, I imagine my exclusion list would be large.

Any advice or guidance on this?  Also, is there a way in Time Machine to
limit the number of snap shots?  I’m not really looking to access a snap
shot from 3 Months ago.

I remember I had this cool program in Windows, where I plugged in a USB
drive and had it set up to back up 3 or 4 folders on my system.  It had
something like 3 options to back up changes, replace, or duplicate.  If I
remember correctly, it was meant for the person that may take their USB
drive to work or school, change files on it, then want to save those changes
to their system at home.  They could then continue to work on the files at
home and save those changes back to the USB drive.  I cannot remember the
name of the program, but it met my needs perfectly.  :)

Thanks for your thoughts.

Traci

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Re: only want to back up a few items

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I believe that it may be difficult to create a workflow in Automator that would 
accomplish this.  Someone could correct me, but it's stock workflows are not 
designed for this sort of solution.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 11, 2016, at 09:42, E.T.  wrote:

  I have not used it but Automator cones ti mind. Its in your Applications 
folder.

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On 7/11/2016 8:35 AM, Traci Duncan wrote:
> Yes, I plan on using a 32GB USB drive.  It’s tiny, so if I want to have it 
> with me, I have my most important folders from my Mac.  I’m not clear if Time 
> Machine is my best solution for backing up/syncing half a dozen folders/files.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Kimber Gardner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How about an external drive or cloud storage?
>> 
>> On 7/11/16, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> Is there a good back up/sync solution if I only want to back up a handful of
>>> items?  For example, I want to back up music, photos, a folder inside
>>> documents, and a couple protected DMG folders.  The DMG folders inside
>>> documents often change and update, they are works in progress.
>>> 
>>> From my Googling, it sounds like it is difficult in Time Machine to only
>>> include items.  Time Machine’s set up is to exclude.  If I want to back up a
>>> handful, I imagine my exclusion list would be large.
>>> 
>>> Any advice or guidance on this?  Also, is there a way in Time Machine to
>>> limit the number of snap shots?  I’m not really looking to access a snap
>>> shot from 3 Months ago.
>>> 
>>> I remember I had this cool program in Windows, where I plugged in a USB
>>> drive and had it set up to back up 3 or 4 folders on my system.  It had
>>> something like 3 options to back up changes, replace, or duplicate.  If I
>>> remember correctly, it was meant for the person that may take their USB
>>> drive to work or school, change files on it, then want to save those changes
>>> to their system at home.  They could then continue to work on the files at
>>> home and save those changes back to the USB drive.  I cannot remember the
>>> name of the program, but it met my needs perfectly.  :)
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>> 
>>> Traci
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Re: only want to back up a few items

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Time Machine may still work.  If you tell it to exclude the /Applications 
folder, the system folder and the Library folder, it will bring up a warning 
about whether you wish to exclude some System files or all of them.  If you 
choose all of them, then you can significantly reduce the backup size.  I 
believe that CCC or SuperDuper may work for you as well, although I haven't 
used them for backups like this.  The beauty of using any of these solutions is 
that they will perform incremental backups automatically, just saving what has 
been changed.  this is usually much more efficient than simply copying things 
over every few days.

Later..

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 11, 2016, at 09:35, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Yes, I plan on using a 32GB USB drive.  It’s tiny, so if I want to have it with 
me, I have my most important folders from my Mac.  I’m not clear if Time 
Machine is my best solution for backing up/syncing half a dozen folders/files.

Thanks,
Traci

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Kimber Gardner  
> wrote:
> 
> How about an external drive or cloud storage?
> 
> On 7/11/16, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> Is there a good back up/sync solution if I only want to back up a handful of
>> items?  For example, I want to back up music, photos, a folder inside
>> documents, and a couple protected DMG folders.  The DMG folders inside
>> documents often change and update, they are works in progress.
>> 
>> From my Googling, it sounds like it is difficult in Time Machine to only
>> include items.  Time Machine’s set up is to exclude.  If I want to back up a
>> handful, I imagine my exclusion list would be large.
>> 
>> Any advice or guidance on this?  Also, is there a way in Time Machine to
>> limit the number of snap shots?  I’m not really looking to access a snap
>> shot from 3 Months ago.
>> 
>> I remember I had this cool program in Windows, where I plugged in a USB
>> drive and had it set up to back up 3 or 4 folders on my system.  It had
>> something like 3 options to back up changes, replace, or duplicate.  If I
>> remember correctly, it was meant for the person that may take their USB
>> drive to work or school, change files on it, then want to save those changes
>> to their system at home.  They could then continue to work on the files at
>> home and save those changes back to the USB drive.  I cannot remember the
>> name of the program, but it met my needs perfectly.  :)
>> 
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>> 
>> Traci
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Re: only want to back up a few items

[E.T.]

   I have not used it but Automator cones ti mind. Its in your 
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On 7/11/2016 8:35 AM, Traci Duncan wrote:

Yes, I plan on using a 32GB USB drive.  It’s tiny, so if I want to have it with 
me, I have my most important folders from my Mac.  I’m not clear if Time 
Machine is my best solution for backing up/syncing half a dozen folders/files.

Thanks,
Traci


On Jul 11, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Kimber Gardner  wrote:

How about an external drive or cloud storage?

On 7/11/16, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Is there a good back up/sync solution if I only want to back up a handful of
items?  For example, I want to back up music, photos, a folder inside
documents, and a couple protected DMG folders.  The DMG folders inside
documents often change and update, they are works in progress.

From my Googling, it sounds like it is difficult in Time Machine to only
include items.  Time Machine’s set up is to exclude.  If I want to back up a
handful, I imagine my exclusion list would be large.

Any advice or guidance on this?  Also, is there a way in Time Machine to
limit the number of snap shots?  I’m not really looking to access a snap
shot from 3 Months ago.

I remember I had this cool program in Windows, where I plugged in a USB
drive and had it set up to back up 3 or 4 folders on my system.  It had
something like 3 options to back up changes, replace, or duplicate.  If I
remember correctly, it was meant for the person that may take their USB
drive to work or school, change files on it, then want to save those changes
to their system at home.  They could then continue to work on the files at
home and save those changes back to the USB drive.  I cannot remember the
name of the program, but it met my needs perfectly.  :)

Thanks for your thoughts.

Traci

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Re: only want to back up a few items

[Traci Duncan]

Yes, I plan on using a 32GB USB drive.  It’s tiny, so if I want to have it with 
me, I have my most important folders from my Mac.  I’m not clear if Time 
Machine is my best solution for backing up/syncing half a dozen folders/files.

Thanks,
Traci

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Kimber Gardner  
> wrote:
> 
> How about an external drive or cloud storage?
> 
> On 7/11/16, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> Is there a good back up/sync solution if I only want to back up a handful of
>> items?  For example, I want to back up music, photos, a folder inside
>> documents, and a couple protected DMG folders.  The DMG folders inside
>> documents often change and update, they are works in progress.
>> 
>> From my Googling, it sounds like it is difficult in Time Machine to only
>> include items.  Time Machine’s set up is to exclude.  If I want to back up a
>> handful, I imagine my exclusion list would be large.
>> 
>> Any advice or guidance on this?  Also, is there a way in Time Machine to
>> limit the number of snap shots?  I’m not really looking to access a snap
>> shot from 3 Months ago.
>> 
>> I remember I had this cool program in Windows, where I plugged in a USB
>> drive and had it set up to back up 3 or 4 folders on my system.  It had
>> something like 3 options to back up changes, replace, or duplicate.  If I
>> remember correctly, it was meant for the person that may take their USB
>> drive to work or school, change files on it, then want to save those changes
>> to their system at home.  They could then continue to work on the files at
>> home and save those changes back to the USB drive.  I cannot remember the
>> name of the program, but it met my needs perfectly.  :)
>> 
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>> 
>> Traci
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Re: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Sounds like you're doing things right.  Visit 
https://marinersoftware.deskpro.com/kb/articles/introduction-to-journal-entry-transfer-syncing-macjournal-for-iphone
 for their explanation about things.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 11, 2016, at 08:58, Kimber Gardner  wrote:

I just submitted a good review and a 5 star rating on the app store
for this app.

But I have a question. I can't seem to figure out how to sync across
devices. I have the app on my iPhone and iPad, both are on the same
wifi but I don't see either device available for syncing. What am I
missing?

Thanks,
Kimber

On 7/11/16, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> 
> MacJournal has been accessible since way back in the mid 00's.  Mariner
> Software has a huge commitment to accessibility and this is not an accident
> at all.  There are also other apps under their umbrella that are very
> accessible as well, although I haven't visited them for quite a bit.
> Regarding contacting the developer, that's not a bad idea, but I think that
> you should also pop a positive review in there to counter the poor one that
> isn't your experience at all.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 05:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
> wrote:
> 
> Mark? Bro? Wen you find a duzy, Man!  You! really! find a duzy!  I just took
> a very hard chance.  The app in the mac app store on the OSX side is 30
> bucks, but oh! sweet! Lord! is it accessible, and worth every single penny
> of it!
> 
> This, by far! and away has gotta be the best Journal app I think I've yet
> ever! seen, regardless the platform or OS!
> 
> This was honestly probably one of the best $30 investments I yet have made!
> Truly, this dev has put huge huge huge! efforts into making the app
> accessible.  I almost wonder if he didn't make this thing accessible by
> sheer accident.  He's gotta have done this purposely.  I mean, it is that
> good!
> 
> ON the mac side, it is so freaking accessible, to the point where F1 through
> F3 literally will even jump you around the screen from your topics list,
> your calendar, etc.  Literally 95% of things have keyboard shortcuts.
> 
> Even on the iOS version, if you have a bluetooth keyboard, he's put keyboard
> shortcuts in the app for the common tasks.
> 
> BTW, it's looking like in answer to my audio question, the iOS version won't
> let you really do audio, but the mac version sure as day will!
> 
> So yeah guys, there are two reviews in the app store both by the same
> person.  He gave it a 1 star rating, and just! brutally! and I mean
> brutally! mutilated! this poor developer!  It almost made me cry when I saw
> it.  LOL!  OK, not literally, but yeah...
> 
> Those are the only two reviews there though, both by that same guy, and both
> are horrible ratings.
> 
> Guys, we really! really! should write this dev and thank him for such a
> great app, and for being so! keened, whether he meant to be or not, to
> accessibility.
> 
> This is exactly how accessibility should be!  This app is just! beautiful!
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:37 AM
> Subject: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary
> 
> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I was just using MacJournal for IPhone, a great little iOS app, and
>> thought
>> I would remind those of you, who like to journal, that it is VoiceOver
>> accessible.
>> 
>> Just so you know, I have never used this tool in OS X so cannot speak to
>> its
>> VoiceOver accessibility on the Mac, itself.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> MacJournal for iPhone
>> By Mariner Software
>> 
>> Description
>> 
>> Talk about some serious journaling experience!
>> 
>> Introduced for the Mac in 2005 and the iPhone in 2010 (and the iPad
>> version
>> shortly thereafter) MacJournal for iPhone offers an even greater
>> opportunity
>> to document important life events while on the go. It's no wonder
>> MacJournal
>> is the world's most popular journaling app for the Mac.
>> 
>> Out and about? You know what we mean. Run here. Run there. And in between
>> all that running, events happen. Then, when you're able to stop and take
>> a
>> breath, you think to yourself, "Now, what was that thing that happened? I
>> wanted to write it down." - only to realize that you forgot what it was.
>> 
>> Now you don't have to wait to until you sit at your desk to make an entry
>> in
>> your journal. MacJournal for iPhone gives you the ability to record an
>> event
>> or that special moment.
>> 
>> Organize, chronicle and edit your important information fast and on the
>> fly.
>> Best of all, unlike other journaling apps out there, you can blog to any
>> of
>> the popular blog sites using MacJournal. 

Re: only want to back up a few items

[Kimber Gardner]

How about an external drive or cloud storage?

On 7/11/16, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> Is there a good back up/sync solution if I only want to back up a handful of
> items?  For example, I want to back up music, photos, a folder inside
> documents, and a couple protected DMG folders.  The DMG folders inside
> documents often change and update, they are works in progress.
>
> From my Googling, it sounds like it is difficult in Time Machine to only
> include items.  Time Machine’s set up is to exclude.  If I want to back up a
> handful, I imagine my exclusion list would be large.
>
> Any advice or guidance on this?  Also, is there a way in Time Machine to
> limit the number of snap shots?  I’m not really looking to access a snap
> shot from 3 Months ago.
>
> I remember I had this cool program in Windows, where I plugged in a USB
> drive and had it set up to back up 3 or 4 folders on my system.  It had
> something like 3 options to back up changes, replace, or duplicate.  If I
> remember correctly, it was meant for the person that may take their USB
> drive to work or school, change files on it, then want to save those changes
> to their system at home.  They could then continue to work on the files at
> home and save those changes back to the USB drive.  I cannot remember the
> name of the program, but it met my needs perfectly.  :)
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> Traci
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only want to back up a few items

[Traci Duncan]

Is there a good back up/sync solution if I only want to back up a handful of 
items?  For example, I want to back up music, photos, a folder inside 
documents, and a couple protected DMG folders.  The DMG folders inside 
documents often change and update, they are works in progress.

>From my Googling, it sounds like it is difficult in Time Machine to only 
>include items.  Time Machine’s set up is to exclude.  If I want to back up a 
>handful, I imagine my exclusion list would be large.

Any advice or guidance on this?  Also, is there a way in Time Machine to limit 
the number of snap shots?  I’m not really looking to access a snap shot from 3 
Months ago.

I remember I had this cool program in Windows, where I plugged in a USB drive 
and had it set up to back up 3 or 4 folders on my system.  It had something 
like 3 options to back up changes, replace, or duplicate.  If I remember 
correctly, it was meant for the person that may take their USB drive to work or 
school, change files on it, then want to save those changes to their system at 
home.  They could then continue to work on the files at home and save those 
changes back to the USB drive.  I cannot remember the name of the program, but 
it met my needs perfectly.  :)

Thanks for your thoughts.

Traci

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Re: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary

[Kimber Gardner]

I just submitted a good review and a 5 star rating on the app store
for this app.

But I have a question. I can't seem to figure out how to sync across
devices. I have the app on my iPhone and iPad, both are on the same
wifi but I don't see either device available for syncing. What am I
missing?

Thanks,
Kimber

On 7/11/16, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> MacJournal has been accessible since way back in the mid 00's.  Mariner
> Software has a huge commitment to accessibility and this is not an accident
> at all.  There are also other apps under their umbrella that are very
> accessible as well, although I haven't visited them for quite a bit.
> Regarding contacting the developer, that's not a bad idea, but I think that
> you should also pop a positive review in there to counter the poor one that
> isn't your experience at all.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 05:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
> wrote:
>
> Mark? Bro? Wen you find a duzy, Man!  You! really! find a duzy!  I just took
> a very hard chance.  The app in the mac app store on the OSX side is 30
> bucks, but oh! sweet! Lord! is it accessible, and worth every single penny
> of it!
>
> This, by far! and away has gotta be the best Journal app I think I've yet
> ever! seen, regardless the platform or OS!
>
> This was honestly probably one of the best $30 investments I yet have made!
> Truly, this dev has put huge huge huge! efforts into making the app
> accessible.  I almost wonder if he didn't make this thing accessible by
> sheer accident.  He's gotta have done this purposely.  I mean, it is that
> good!
>
> ON the mac side, it is so freaking accessible, to the point where F1 through
> F3 literally will even jump you around the screen from your topics list,
> your calendar, etc.  Literally 95% of things have keyboard shortcuts.
>
> Even on the iOS version, if you have a bluetooth keyboard, he's put keyboard
> shortcuts in the app for the common tasks.
>
> BTW, it's looking like in answer to my audio question, the iOS version won't
> let you really do audio, but the mac version sure as day will!
>
> So yeah guys, there are two reviews in the app store both by the same
> person.  He gave it a 1 star rating, and just! brutally! and I mean
> brutally! mutilated! this poor developer!  It almost made me cry when I saw
> it.  LOL!  OK, not literally, but yeah...
>
> Those are the only two reviews there though, both by that same guy, and both
> are horrible ratings.
>
> Guys, we really! really! should write this dev and thank him for such a
> great app, and for being so! keened, whether he meant to be or not, to
> accessibility.
>
> This is exactly how accessibility should be!  This app is just! beautiful!
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:37 AM
> Subject: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary
>
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I was just using MacJournal for IPhone, a great little iOS app, and
>> thought
>> I would remind those of you, who like to journal, that it is VoiceOver
>> accessible.
>>
>> Just so you know, I have never used this tool in OS X so cannot speak to
>> its
>> VoiceOver accessibility on the Mac, itself.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> MacJournal for iPhone
>> By Mariner Software
>>
>> Description
>>
>> Talk about some serious journaling experience!
>>
>> Introduced for the Mac in 2005 and the iPhone in 2010 (and the iPad
>> version
>> shortly thereafter) MacJournal for iPhone offers an even greater
>> opportunity
>> to document important life events while on the go. It's no wonder
>> MacJournal
>> is the world's most popular journaling app for the Mac.
>>
>> Out and about? You know what we mean. Run here. Run there. And in between
>> all that running, events happen. Then, when you're able to stop and take
>> a
>> breath, you think to yourself, "Now, what was that thing that happened? I
>> wanted to write it down." - only to realize that you forgot what it was.
>>
>> Now you don't have to wait to until you sit at your desk to make an entry
>> in
>> your journal. MacJournal for iPhone gives you the ability to record an
>> event
>> or that special moment.
>>
>> Organize, chronicle and edit your important information fast and on the
>> fly.
>> Best of all, unlike other journaling apps out there, you can blog to any
>> of
>> the popular blog sites using MacJournal. Not a blogger? Use MacJournal on
>> its own or share your MacJournal data over the cloud with your other
>> MacOS
>> and iOS devices. Even share documents via iTunes. Whichever way,
>> MacJournal
>> has you covered.
>>
>> WITH MACJOURNAL YOU CAN:
>> Create entries in multiple journals
>> Attach images to your entries
>> Edit styles in entries
>> Using Dropbox, 

Re: Sharing on Apple TV

[christopher hallsworth]

Home sharing only works on devices connected to the same network, not the 
internet. This is why ATV calls this “Computers” with a brief description 
regarding home sharing.
> On 11 Jul 2016, at 08:53, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I know  the atv has home sharing but will that work between different 
> locations?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 2:46 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sharing on Apple TV
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't see why not.  My father uses my Apple ID on his Apple TV so that he 
> has access to stream all the content I have available in iCloud.  He doesn't 
> have access to purchase on the Apple TV, but has access to all my content.  
> Other things like Netflix etc, as long as you use the same login credentials, 
> it should be fine.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 10, 2016, at 17:50, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>  Is it possible to share some of the content one plays on the ATV? What I 
> mean by this is content that is viewed on an app such as Ted which has a 
> share function. A friend and I are curious about this as we both watch 
> documentaries. This would not be content one has to subscribe to.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Chris,

MacJournal has been accessible since way back in the mid 00's.  Mariner 
Software has a huge commitment to accessibility and this is not an accident at 
all.  There are also other apps under their umbrella that are very accessible 
as well, although I haven't visited them for quite a bit.  Regarding contacting 
the developer, that's not a bad idea, but I think that you should also pop a 
positive review in there to counter the poor one that isn't your experience at 
all.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 11, 2016, at 05:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

Mark? Bro? Wen you find a duzy, Man!  You! really! find a duzy!  I just took a 
very hard chance.  The app in the mac app store on the OSX side is 30 bucks, 
but oh! sweet! Lord! is it accessible, and worth every single penny of it!

This, by far! and away has gotta be the best Journal app I think I've yet ever! 
seen, regardless the platform or OS!

This was honestly probably one of the best $30 investments I yet have made! 
Truly, this dev has put huge huge huge! efforts into making the app accessible. 
 I almost wonder if he didn't make this thing accessible by sheer accident.  
He's gotta have done this purposely.  I mean, it is that good!

ON the mac side, it is so freaking accessible, to the point where F1 through F3 
literally will even jump you around the screen from your topics list, your 
calendar, etc.  Literally 95% of things have keyboard shortcuts.

Even on the iOS version, if you have a bluetooth keyboard, he's put keyboard 
shortcuts in the app for the common tasks.

BTW, it's looking like in answer to my audio question, the iOS version won't 
let you really do audio, but the mac version sure as day will!

So yeah guys, there are two reviews in the app store both by the same person.  
He gave it a 1 star rating, and just! brutally! and I mean brutally! mutilated! 
this poor developer!  It almost made me cry when I saw it.  LOL!  OK, not 
literally, but yeah...

Those are the only two reviews there though, both by that same guy, and both 
are horrible ratings.

Guys, we really! really! should write this dev and thank him for such a great 
app, and for being so! keened, whether he meant to be or not, to accessibility.

This is exactly how accessibility should be!  This app is just! beautiful!
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:37 AM
Subject: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary


> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I was just using MacJournal for IPhone, a great little iOS app, and thought
> I would remind those of you, who like to journal, that it is VoiceOver
> accessible.
> 
> Just so you know, I have never used this tool in OS X so cannot speak to its
> VoiceOver accessibility on the Mac, itself.
> 
> Mark
> 
> MacJournal for iPhone
> By Mariner Software
> 
> Description
> 
> Talk about some serious journaling experience!
> 
> Introduced for the Mac in 2005 and the iPhone in 2010 (and the iPad version
> shortly thereafter) MacJournal for iPhone offers an even greater opportunity
> to document important life events while on the go. It's no wonder MacJournal
> is the world's most popular journaling app for the Mac.
> 
> Out and about? You know what we mean. Run here. Run there. And in between
> all that running, events happen. Then, when you're able to stop and take a
> breath, you think to yourself, "Now, what was that thing that happened? I
> wanted to write it down." - only to realize that you forgot what it was.
> 
> Now you don't have to wait to until you sit at your desk to make an entry in
> your journal. MacJournal for iPhone gives you the ability to record an event
> or that special moment.
> 
> Organize, chronicle and edit your important information fast and on the fly.
> Best of all, unlike other journaling apps out there, you can blog to any of
> the popular blog sites using MacJournal. Not a blogger? Use MacJournal on
> its own or share your MacJournal data over the cloud with your other MacOS
> and iOS devices. Even share documents via iTunes. Whichever way, MacJournal
> has you covered.
> 
> WITH MACJOURNAL YOU CAN:
> Create entries in multiple journals
> Attach images to your entries
> Edit styles in entries
> Using Dropbox, manage multiple MacJournal documents, that can reside on your
> device
> Share entries to Facebook and Twitter
> Blog from your journal on your iPhone or iPod Touch to one of a list of
> popular servers such as Blogger, Wordpress, Tumblr and Posterous
> Set a passcode to lock your data upon opening MacJournal
> Have consistent and familiar look and feel on both iPhone version and Mac
> version
> Search or browse entries by using the search field at the top of each
> journal screen
> Create numbered or bulleted lists
> 

Re: Sharing on Apple TV

[Tim Kilburn]

Simon,

No, Home Sharing doesn't work between different locations.  But, if the video 
media has been purchased through iTunes, then it is accessible to anyone using 
that same Apple ID no matter where they are.  Similarly, with Apple Music or 
iTunes Match, where music media is stored in the Cloud, that too is accessible 
to any other ATV using the same Apple ID.  So, in my case, my father lives 
about 16 hours away in British Columbia and has access to my library.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 11, 2016, at 01:53, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

I know  the atv has home sharing but will that work between different locations?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 2:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sharing on Apple TV

Hi,

I don't see why not.  My father uses my Apple ID on his Apple TV so that he has 
access to stream all the content I have available in iCloud.  He doesn't have 
access to purchase on the Apple TV, but has access to all my content.  Other 
things like Netflix etc, as long as you use the same login credentials, it 
should be fine.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 10, 2016, at 17:50, E.T.  wrote:

 Is it possible to share some of the content one plays on the ATV? What I mean 
by this is content that is viewed on an app such as Ted which has a share 
function. A friend and I are curious about this as we both watch documentaries. 
This would not be content one has to subscribe to.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?

[Scott Granados]

A TB SSD would probably be a bit thick althoughI suppose you can wire the chips 
in any physical configuration you want.  It’s not like the old IBM 990K where 
you had to have non 90 degree turns in the wiring so the electrons wouldn’t 
over heat at the turns and cause to much thermal noise.

Biggest problem with your proposed config would probably be battery drain but 
give it a few years.  We’ll have way more than that in the form factor you want.

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:18 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeahscott,
> 
> My perfect machine would be an 11inch mac book air with I7 quad core 
> processor and at least 32 gig ram with a 1tb ssd harddrive.
> 
> I like the size of the machine, the work time is great and the size is easy 
> to fit in a bag if I'm mobile.
> But I can't run the things I really want to run at one time.
> Ok so that type of processor and amount of ram would probably melt the 
> keyboard but surely they could put better heat disapation into the design.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 3:27 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?
> 
> This is one area I have issues with apple.  Especially in the pro line I wish 
> they would support more than 16GB.  As someone who likes to spin up a lot of 
> VSRX instances,  it would be nice to have lots of extra memory.
> 
> Sure, I could get a Mac Pro and slap in a pile of cores and ram but I suspect 
> I’m not throwing that in my work bag.:)
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:26 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Max
>> 
>> The 13 inch mac book air with 8 gig ram and 512 gig ssd is a great 
>> machine, No mac pros now have the optical drive unless you get the older 
>> model which there is only one model of.
>> 
>> The standard is a retina screan so higher resolution and the 
>> harddrives in the pros now are ssd So although the air can do what the 
>> pro does, the air only currently goes to 8gig ram, and 512 gb ssd, the 13 
>> inch retina can give you up to 16 GIG ram and 1TB SSD But if your not doing 
>> anything like major multimedia productions or editing then you shouldbe able 
>> to get away with the air up speced.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 3:43 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?
>> 
>> my brother just got an iPad pro and is really impressed with the processing 
>> speed and quality of the sound. I don't need a larger screen obviously. but 
>> sometimes I need to display images or video so someone can help me sort them 
>> for use on my website. that is why I'm settled on a 13 inch screen or there 
>> abouts. thinking of a mac book pro and just dropping the cd rom to lose a 
>> little of the weight. another thing i'm sure of is this time I'm maxing out 
>> the ram and going with a SSD or compact flash hard drive. thanks, max On Jul 
>> 9, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> 
>>> The ipad pros come in a 12.? Inch and 9.7 inch models Apart from the 
>>> faster processor in the pros, I don't really see a lot more to them than 
>>> the iPad air2  except may be sound but even then I thought it wasn't great 
>>> for quad speakers.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2016 2:15 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?
>>> 
>>> sorry just assumed the air came in a 13 or close to that. what is the max 
>>> hard drive for the iPad pro? does it assume the user will keep a lot of 
>>> stuff on their cloud drive? thanks, max On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:59 PM, 
>>> Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> 
 I'd definitely go with the Macbook Pro, but all that said, I have the 12 
 inch IPad Pro 128 GB and I freaking swear by the thing!
 
 I've never heard of an Air let alone any IPad model that is a 13 inch.  
 Did I miss something obvious?
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 - Original Message - From: "'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries" 
 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 9:57 PM
 Subject: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?
 
 
 Was decided on a mac book air 13 inch until talking with my brother. 
 He was going on and on abut the new iPad pro 13 inch. He said that 
 with the blue tooth keyboard it comes with it can do just about 
 everything you need. Have any of you had your hands on the new iPad 

Re: IOS 10 beta

[Scott Granados]

Thanks for the pointer, I will go ahead and do this.  Love the Applevis 
resources.

Thank you

> On Jul 10, 2016, at 7:32 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> If you are interested in subscribing to the apple beta discussion group you 
> can subscribe to the following address.
> apple-beta-discussion+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
> 
> 
> We also have a roger group
> https://rogertalk.com/group/u8TSs28IkMXj 
> 
> Hope to see you there.
> 
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens
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> 
>> On Jul 10, 2016, at 17:18, Kevin Chao  wrote:
>> 
>> www.applevis.com  has great forums discussing the 
>> public betas and VoiceOver.
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 10:09 AM Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> I disagree, being that our needs are so under represented sometimes do the 
>> small size of our community I think it’s important to discuss openly, 
>> especially as concerned directly to Voice Over.  The call routing issue 
>> being at the top of the list for example since it directly impacts us all as 
>> iPhone users, unique to our needs and actively being addressed in the Beta.  
>> Public 4 for example of the current train breaking call routing after it was 
>> fixed in 3 and seeming better in the recent release of 5.  ETc.  Others have 
>> safari rendering concerns, performance, and so forth.  Many on this list 
>> also participate.  I think we have a unique group here with a lot of built 
>> in skills that benefit from open discussion again of public things.  I’m on 
>> the same page with you on the developer releases and they should remain 
>> under wraps for many of the reasons you state as well as for Apple’s 
>> protection of their intellectual property.  Once it’s n the wild and 
>> publicly available though I think we have more to gain than lose by it’s 
>> discussion.  No matter my thoughts though, It’s Mark and Kara’s list so I 
>> will of course honor their wishes even though I strongly disagree with them.
>> 
>> You also have raised good points, I don’t think they apply in this case but 
>> they were as always well stated.  Just my $.02 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:30 PM, E.T. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> Scott,
>>>   Not to play devil's advocate (why the devil..) but one very good reason 
>>> for this ruling is to reduce anxiety and endless questions about new 
>>> releases Discussing bugs in beta software on a mailing list like this one 
>>> is counter productive especially for those of us who are not participating 
>>> in a beta program. The ruling would also preclude some from stating 
>>> disclaimers that he/she will not openly discuss issues in beta software.
>>> 
>>>   If there is a mailing list for beta testers, that is where to take it.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> 
>>> On 7/10/2016 8:34 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Sorry, I’ll believe the lawyers from Morrison and Foerster before Mark
 and Kara.:)  Public means public meaning no presumption of privacy.  And
 I’ve read and had evaluated both agreements, the Developer version is
 far more restrictive and I was specifically advised against signing it
 so never participated in that program.  I’m advised both on my own dime
 and through the legal department at my employer that the public beta is
 a different animal.  But if the moderators wish to be their restrictive
 selves and stifle legal discussions that will benefit our community it’s
 their list.
 However, I have no such prohibition on my lists so anyone interested in
 an open discussion about beta software may migrate there with out fear
 of retribution for their comments.  (public betas of software only
 please, the developer closed stuff needs to stay in approved forums and
 channels.
 
> On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  
> >> wrote:
> 
> Scott, even though it's a public beta, the NDA is still in effect.
> Cara and Mark both say this. Mark or Cara, if you want to take it from
> here, go ahead.
> 
> Shawn
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> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com  
> >
> 

Re: Mac security, encrypting, backing up, oh my!

[Scott Granados]

I personally would rather some sort of RSA or DH scheme for encryption but 
braille ain’t a bad idea.:)  Especially for communicating in the clear.  To 
easy to translate though but if memory serves didn’t braille come from a 
military code originally?

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:39 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi ET,
> 
> Interesting thought on the BRL file for storing passwords,
> 
> I can honestly say that if you did that and I got hold of the file or a 
> printed list of passwords written in braille I'd still be reading it in 6 
> months.
> 
> It's not that I can't read braille but I just don’t' do it enough to remember 
> it as well as I should.
> 
> I just encrypt my files for those I need to.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 1:45 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mac security, encrypting, backing up, oh my!
> 
> Traci and others,
>Finally took a look at these articles. I did not see any responses but 
> here is what I see in this.
> 
>What are the risks with encryption? Forget a password and you are dead in 
> the water? I suppose those of us who can create braille hard copy should be 
> safe. Or even a brf file kept on a braille display.
> 
>With so many passwords, sometimes I am overwhelmed even with an app like 
> 1Password.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 7/7/2016 1:52 PM, Traci Duncan wrote:
>> Here are some interesting articles about securing data on our Macs and 
>> encrypting back ups & external drives.
>> 
>> 5 Ways to Keep Your Mac's Data Safe and Secure - The Mac Observer 
>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/5-ways-to-keep-your-macs-data-s
>> afe-and-secure?utm_source=macobserver_medium=rss_campaign=rss_
>> tips
>> 
>> OS X: Encrypting Time Machine Backups - The Mac Observer 
>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/os-x-encrypting-time-machine-ba
>> ckups
>> 
>> Does anyone follow any or all of the above tips?  Do you have 
>> additional or alternative recommendations?  I find this stuff 
>> fascinating and useful.  Maybe other Mac users will as well.
>> 
>> Enjoy,
>> Traci
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Re: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Mark? Bro? Wen you find a duzy, Man!  You! really! find a duzy!  I just took 
a very hard chance.  The app in the mac app store on the OSX side is 30 
bucks, but oh! sweet! Lord! is it accessible, and worth every single penny 
of it!


This, by far! and away has gotta be the best Journal app I think I've yet 
ever! seen, regardless the platform or OS!


This was honestly probably one of the best $30 investments I yet have made! 
Truly, this dev has put huge huge huge! efforts into making the app 
accessible.  I almost wonder if he didn't make this thing accessible by 
sheer accident.  He's gotta have done this purposely.  I mean, it is that 
good!


ON the mac side, it is so freaking accessible, to the point where F1 through 
F3 literally will even jump you around the screen from your topics list, 
your calendar, etc.  Literally 95% of things have keyboard shortcuts.


Even on the iOS version, if you have a bluetooth keyboard, he's put keyboard 
shortcuts in the app for the common tasks.


BTW, it's looking like in answer to my audio question, the iOS version won't 
let you really do audio, but the mac version sure as day will!


So yeah guys, there are two reviews in the app store both by the same 
person.  He gave it a 1 star rating, and just! brutally! and I mean 
brutally! mutilated! this poor developer!  It almost made me cry when I saw 
it.  LOL!  OK, not literally, but yeah...


Those are the only two reviews there though, both by that same guy, and both 
are horrible ratings.


Guys, we really! really! should write this dev and thank him for such a 
great app, and for being so! keened, whether he meant to be or not, to 
accessibility.


This is exactly how accessibility should be!  This app is just! beautiful!
---
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Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:37 AM
Subject: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary



Hello Everyone,

I was just using MacJournal for IPhone, a great little iOS app, and 
thought

I would remind those of you, who like to journal, that it is VoiceOver
accessible.

Just so you know, I have never used this tool in OS X so cannot speak to 
its

VoiceOver accessibility on the Mac, itself.

Mark

MacJournal for iPhone
By Mariner Software

Description

Talk about some serious journaling experience!

Introduced for the Mac in 2005 and the iPhone in 2010 (and the iPad 
version
shortly thereafter) MacJournal for iPhone offers an even greater 
opportunity
to document important life events while on the go. It's no wonder 
MacJournal

is the world's most popular journaling app for the Mac.

Out and about? You know what we mean. Run here. Run there. And in between
all that running, events happen. Then, when you're able to stop and take a
breath, you think to yourself, "Now, what was that thing that happened? I
wanted to write it down." - only to realize that you forgot what it was.

Now you don't have to wait to until you sit at your desk to make an entry 
in
your journal. MacJournal for iPhone gives you the ability to record an 
event

or that special moment.

Organize, chronicle and edit your important information fast and on the 
fly.
Best of all, unlike other journaling apps out there, you can blog to any 
of

the popular blog sites using MacJournal. Not a blogger? Use MacJournal on
its own or share your MacJournal data over the cloud with your other MacOS
and iOS devices. Even share documents via iTunes. Whichever way, 
MacJournal

has you covered.

WITH MACJOURNAL YOU CAN:
Create entries in multiple journals
Attach images to your entries
Edit styles in entries
Using Dropbox, manage multiple MacJournal documents, that can reside on 
your

device
Share entries to Facebook and Twitter
Blog from your journal on your iPhone or iPod Touch to one of a list of
popular servers such as Blogger, Wordpress, Tumblr and Posterous
Set a passcode to lock your data upon opening MacJournal
Have consistent and familiar look and feel on both iPhone version and Mac
version
Search or browse entries by using the search field at the top of each
journal screen
Create numbered or bulleted lists
Journal in either landscape or portrait mode

***Sharing data with MacJournal for Mac OS via Dropbox requires MacJournal
for Mac OS 6.0.6 or higher. MacJournal for Mac OS 6.0.6 or higher is also
recommended for sharing data via wifi sync

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/macjournal-for-iphone/id357602069?mt=8


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Re: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Mark,

I need to play with this app a bit, but you might have very well just hit on 
a goldmine!  I cannot tell you how long I have been looking for a journal 
app to keep a private diary.  I won't go into it, but I have a lot of things 
in my life which really need to be worked through, some with a therapist, 
some just by myself.  This would be a killer! way for me to document my 
thoughts.  I had an app on my IPad, but it doesn't look anywhere near! this 
simple.  There are a few buttons, which I don't exactly get what they do.  I 
mean, they're greatly labeled.  I just don't get their concept of what they 
do.


Is there any help documentation out there that I can RTFM?  If not, would 
you be willing off list maybe to answer a couple of questions I may have 
along the way?


For only $1.99, this looks incredible!  I'm very much looking forward to 
using it!  Have you tried it on an IPad?  I've only installed it so far on 
my 6S, but I'm gonna put it on my IPad Pro next.  I need to see how much it 
costs, if anyone knows, do tell, but I'm seriously considerring getting the 
docking keyboard for the 12 inch IPad Pro.  Especially, now that I found a 
good journaling app, this will be absolutely perfect!  That was actually one 
of the huge things I wanted to be able to do with iOS, was to write little 
notes to myself, and to be able to also keep a private confidential diary.


Let me ask you something, Mark.

Do you know if this app will let you attach an audio recording to an entry? 
I say this as sometimes, I'm not proud to admit it, but I get so upset 
emotionally with some of the things in my life that I deal with, that it's 
just easier to audibly talk the things out, than it is to have to exert my 
energy on typing things out.


Anyway, thank you for such a killer recommendation!

I really really think this app is gonna help me tremendously!  If it isn't 
too expensive, which it shouldn't be, I'd be willing to chance buying the 
mac version, and tell you all how accessible it is.

---
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- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:37 AM
Subject: This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary



Hello Everyone,

I was just using MacJournal for IPhone, a great little iOS app, and 
thought

I would remind those of you, who like to journal, that it is VoiceOver
accessible.

Just so you know, I have never used this tool in OS X so cannot speak to 
its

VoiceOver accessibility on the Mac, itself.

Mark

MacJournal for iPhone
By Mariner Software

Description

Talk about some serious journaling experience!

Introduced for the Mac in 2005 and the iPhone in 2010 (and the iPad 
version
shortly thereafter) MacJournal for iPhone offers an even greater 
opportunity
to document important life events while on the go. It's no wonder 
MacJournal

is the world's most popular journaling app for the Mac.

Out and about? You know what we mean. Run here. Run there. And in between
all that running, events happen. Then, when you're able to stop and take a
breath, you think to yourself, "Now, what was that thing that happened? I
wanted to write it down." - only to realize that you forgot what it was.

Now you don't have to wait to until you sit at your desk to make an entry 
in
your journal. MacJournal for iPhone gives you the ability to record an 
event

or that special moment.

Organize, chronicle and edit your important information fast and on the 
fly.
Best of all, unlike other journaling apps out there, you can blog to any 
of

the popular blog sites using MacJournal. Not a blogger? Use MacJournal on
its own or share your MacJournal data over the cloud with your other MacOS
and iOS devices. Even share documents via iTunes. Whichever way, 
MacJournal

has you covered.

WITH MACJOURNAL YOU CAN:
Create entries in multiple journals
Attach images to your entries
Edit styles in entries
Using Dropbox, manage multiple MacJournal documents, that can reside on 
your

device
Share entries to Facebook and Twitter
Blog from your journal on your iPhone or iPod Touch to one of a list of
popular servers such as Blogger, Wordpress, Tumblr and Posterous
Set a passcode to lock your data upon opening MacJournal
Have consistent and familiar look and feel on both iPhone version and Mac
version
Search or browse entries by using the search field at the top of each
journal screen
Create numbered or bulleted lists
Journal in either landscape or portrait mode

***Sharing data with MacJournal for Mac OS via Dropbox requires MacJournal
for Mac OS 6.0.6 or higher. MacJournal for Mac OS 6.0.6 or higher is also
recommended for sharing data via wifi sync

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/macjournal-for-iphone/id357602069?mt=8


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RE: Sharing on Apple TV

[Simon Fogarty]

I know  the atv has home sharing but will that work between different locations?

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 2:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sharing on Apple TV

Hi,

I don't see why not.  My father uses my Apple ID on his Apple TV so that he has 
access to stream all the content I have available in iCloud.  He doesn't have 
access to purchase on the Apple TV, but has access to all my content.  Other 
things like Netflix etc, as long as you use the same login credentials, it 
should be fine.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 10, 2016, at 17:50, E.T.  wrote:

  Is it possible to share some of the content one plays on the ATV? What I mean 
by this is content that is viewed on an app such as Ted which has a share 
function. A friend and I are curious about this as we both watch documentaries. 
This would not be content one has to subscribe to.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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RE: Mac security, encrypting, backing up, oh my!

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,

 Interesting thought on the BRL file for storing passwords,

 I can honestly say that if you did that and I got hold of the file or a 
printed list of passwords written in braille I'd still be reading it in 6 
months.

 It's not that I can't read braille but I just don’t' do it enough to remember 
it as well as I should.

I just encrypt my files for those I need to.

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On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 1:45 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac security, encrypting, backing up, oh my!

Traci and others,
Finally took a look at these articles. I did not see any responses but here 
is what I see in this.

What are the risks with encryption? Forget a password and you are dead in 
the water? I suppose those of us who can create braille hard copy should be 
safe. Or even a brf file kept on a braille display.

With so many passwords, sometimes I am overwhelmed even with an app like 
1Password.

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On 7/7/2016 1:52 PM, Traci Duncan wrote:
> Here are some interesting articles about securing data on our Macs and 
> encrypting back ups & external drives.
>
> 5 Ways to Keep Your Mac's Data Safe and Secure - The Mac Observer 
> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/5-ways-to-keep-your-macs-data-s
> afe-and-secure?utm_source=macobserver_medium=rss_campaign=rss_
> tips
>
> OS X: Encrypting Time Machine Backups - The Mac Observer 
> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/os-x-encrypting-time-machine-ba
> ckups
>
> Does anyone follow any or all of the above tips?  Do you have 
> additional or alternative recommendations?  I find this stuff 
> fascinating and useful.  Maybe other Mac users will as well.
>
> Enjoy,
> Traci
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RE: iMac fusion Drive versus standard Drive

[Simon Fogarty]

I Have a 1tb fusion drive in my mac mini at work and that's along side 16 gig 
ram,

 It's quick when starting up and ok with file location or saving but I find it 
gets clunky after a while  with everything I'm installing and removing etc.

 I haven't updated that machine to el capitan so it could be time to clean up 
with a full install of el cap rather than Yosemite 

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Hi,

I cannot comment on VM-ware fusion per say as I don't use it myself.  But, I 
have heard quite a number of people,  both in this community, and the sighted 
community speak very highly of it.  Regarding a Fusion drive vs a regular 
spinning drive, you will notice a considerable performance difference.  All the 
System files and those which are access often, are normally placed on the SSD 
or Flash portion of the fusion array, giving you extremely fast access rates.  
When I created my personal Fusion drive both on my MacBook Pro and my home 
MacPro, the performance improvements were very noticeable.  I'd say to the 
factor of three to five times in some situations.  for example, from power up 
to the Login screen takes five to seven seconds with the new Fusion setup, 
whereas it took 30 to 40 seconds with just a spinning drive.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:12, Joshua Tubbs  wrote:

Hi everyone,
On Thursday I will be receiving my new iMac. It is the 2.8 processor with a 2 
TB fusion Drive and 16 gigs of RAM. In line with this new Mac, I want 
performance and speed over space, though I did choose a 2 TB drive because it 
is The best of both worlds.
My concern is fusion. VMware fusion. Last I heard, it will no longer be in 
development anymore due to most of their staff being laid off. With this in 
mind, keeping in mind the fact that I do plan on upgrading to macOS Sierra when 
it comes out, is VMware fusion a viable solution after El Capitan? Also, for 
those that have fusion drives, how do you like them? Is it better then standard 
drive you get by default?
Thanks.

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RE: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

Interesting concept.

Might have to have a look at this on an old machine I have access to.

Cheers.

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Subject: Re: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini

Simon,

I've messed with a number of 2011 and 2012 MBP's and in most cases, I've just 
removed the optical drive and slid the spinning HD over into its slot, put the 
new SSD in where the spinning used to be, then, using Terminal, made them into 
a Fusion drive.  As with the addition of any SSD, the performance has improved 
exponentially.  Personally, I so seldom need the optical drive, it just seemed 
better to create the Fusion array instead.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 10, 2016, at 02:53, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

And Arnold,

That machine your getting sounds like the late 2011 model.

I’ve currently got with me a early 2011 model with 8 gig ram and 320 gig hard 
drive,

I’m updating it for my neace and when I’m finished it will be a 2011 mac book 
pro with optical drive,
16 gig of DDR3  ram, and a 480 or 500 gig ssd.
And as I’ve found from a previous machine I updated will work like a mac book 
air

Plus give my nease another 4 years at least of usage.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 12:48 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini

Hey Arnold, very good, just remember, that rotating drive will start to slow 
over time and also is the most likely thing to fail in the box.  So as always, 
keep good backups in case you need to reformat to boost up that speed again.  
If you can swing it go SSD sooner than later.  That’s even a bigger deal than 
memory to me because of the massive boost in performance from rotating disks to 
all solid state.

Let us know if you need any help on that Mac.  I like your move here buying a 
computer that doesn’t break the bank to get started with and no pressure or 
time constraints.  I think you’re making a good move.

On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:39 PM, Arnold Schmidt 
> wrote:

I did order it, and it allegedly will be here in the next couple weeks, if not 
before.  The things in the following message are way beyond me at the moment.  
I will probably upgrade the memory first, then put in a 1 tb hard drive when 
the 500 gig one gets full, or quits.  Keep in mind  that this vista computer, 
from 2008, still has about 180 gig free on its 500 gig hard drive.

Arnold Schmidt
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini

Arnold, this sounds like a screening deal.  I’d go for it, excellent choice.

You should swap out that drive though, you’ll have a Mac that performs much 
more like a later model and you’ll be happier.  If money is really tight you 
could do something like a 128 GB SSD for $100 or so maybe even less by now and 
then just put your near line data on an older style rotating model with your 
high demand stuff and program files on the SSD.  In fact, not to throw to much 
at you but you could just by a case for $25 or so, pull that 500GB drive, slap 
it in the case, insert a smaller sized or larger depending on funds SSD in the 
Mini and connect the 500 as a removable.  Or I believe there’s a  second bay if 
you want to have both internal.

Sounds like a good deal though.  Put 32GB of memory in there and you’ve got a 
powerhouse that will last you a good long time as well as make it fun to learn 
on for small dollars.


On Jul 7, 2016, at 12:51 PM, Arnold Schmidt 
> wrote:

It is from 2011.  It has an i5, I think 2.5 gig, processor, but only 4 gig of 
ram.  It has a 500 gig hard drive, which is plenty for me.  They want about 
$430 for this computer.  Thanks for any opinions.

Arnold Schmidt

Arnold Schmidt

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RE: IOS 10 beta

[Simon Fogarty]

Hey Scot,
I started this question / thread,
So I’ll call it as a mistake and apologies to mark & Cara as well as the list.

But just to note that if everyone on the list had installed the 10 public beta 
on to their iPhones or iPads, and people had questions, the NDA of a public 
beta would mean no on e can ask a question of other users of the same beta 
system.

Now I will end this thread.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 3:34 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10 beta

Sorry, I’ll believe the lawyers from Morrison and Foerster before Mark and 
Kara.:)  Public means public meaning no presumption of privacy.  And I’ve read 
and had evaluated both agreements, the Developer version is far more 
restrictive and I was specifically advised against signing it so never 
participated in that program.  I’m advised both on my own dime and through the 
legal department at my employer that the public beta is a different animal.  
But if the moderators wish to be their restrictive selves and stifle legal 
discussions that will benefit our community it’s their list.
However, I have no such prohibition on my lists so anyone interested in an open 
discussion about beta software may migrate there with out fear of retribution 
for their comments.  (public betas of software only please, the developer 
closed stuff needs to stay in approved forums and channels.

On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Shawn Krasniuk 
> wrote:

Scott, even though it's a public beta, the NDA is still in effect. Cara and 
Mark both say this. Mark or Cara, if you want to take it from here, go ahead.

Shawn
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On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Scott Granados 
> wrote:

Ray, public beta buddy, has nothing to do with non disclosure.

Public being the key word here.

Discuss away, it’s assumed you will.

On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Ray Foret jr 
> wrote:

Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are strictly 
forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the beta testing of IOS10. 
 This pertains both to developer beta as well as the public beta.  Bear in mind 
that the public beta is public strictly in the sence that the public has access 
to it without paying a developer fee:  but, open discussion of findings is 
strictly forbidden.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Hi List folks,

Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 
beta release.

Does anyone know of any yet written documentation on the new features in IOS 
10, I’ve found a few but others are hiding from me.

The first one that really got me was iMessage being turned off after updating.

But it definitely seems faster especially when setting up fingerprints in the 
touch sensor.

Cheers for any information.

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RE: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeahscott,

My perfect machine would be an 11inch mac book air with I7 quad core processor 
and at least 32 gig ram with a 1tb ssd harddrive.

 I like the size of the machine, the work time is great and the size is easy to 
fit in a bag if I'm mobile.
But I can't run the things I really want to run at one time.
Ok so that type of processor and amount of ram would probably melt the keyboard 
but surely they could put better heat disapation into the design.

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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 3:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?

This is one area I have issues with apple.  Especially in the pro line I wish 
they would support more than 16GB.  As someone who likes to spin up a lot of 
VSRX instances,  it would be nice to have lots of extra memory.

Sure, I could get a Mac Pro and slap in a pile of cores and ram but I suspect 
I’m not throwing that in my work bag.:)

> On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:26 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Max
> 
> The 13 inch mac book air with 8 gig ram and 512 gig ssd is a great 
> machine, No mac pros now have the optical drive unless you get the older 
> model which there is only one model of.
> 
> The standard is a retina screan so higher resolution and the 
> harddrives in the pros now are ssd So although the air can do what the 
> pro does, the air only currently goes to 8gig ram, and 512 gb ssd, the 13 
> inch retina can give you up to 16 GIG ram and 1TB SSD But if your not doing 
> anything like major multimedia productions or editing then you shouldbe able 
> to get away with the air up speced.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 3:43 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?
> 
> my brother just got an iPad pro and is really impressed with the processing 
> speed and quality of the sound. I don't need a larger screen obviously. but 
> sometimes I need to display images or video so someone can help me sort them 
> for use on my website. that is why I'm settled on a 13 inch screen or there 
> abouts. thinking of a mac book pro and just dropping the cd rom to lose a 
> little of the weight. another thing i'm sure of is this time I'm maxing out 
> the ram and going with a SSD or compact flash hard drive. thanks, max On Jul 
> 9, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> 
>> The ipad pros come in a 12.? Inch and 9.7 inch models Apart from the 
>> faster processor in the pros, I don't really see a lot more to them than the 
>> iPad air2  except may be sound but even then I thought it wasn't great for 
>> quad speakers.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2016 2:15 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?
>> 
>> sorry just assumed the air came in a 13 or close to that. what is the max 
>> hard drive for the iPad pro? does it assume the user will keep a lot of 
>> stuff on their cloud drive? thanks, max On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:59 PM, 
>> Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd definitely go with the Macbook Pro, but all that said, I have the 12 
>>> inch IPad Pro 128 GB and I freaking swear by the thing!
>>> 
>>> I've never heard of an Air let alone any IPad model that is a 13 inch.  Did 
>>> I miss something obvious?
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>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 9:57 PM
>>> Subject: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Was decided on a mac book air 13 inch until talking with my brother. 
>>> He was going on and on abut the new iPad pro 13 inch. He said that 
>>> with the blue tooth keyboard it comes with it can do just about 
>>> everything you need. Have any of you had your hands on the new iPad 
>>> pro? If you could only pick one would you go with a mac book pro, 
>>> mac book air, or iPad pro? Thanks, Max
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RE: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac users: Please read

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Scott,

Just simply less stress with bootcamp than in a vm either virtual box or vm 
fusion.

I do use virtual box for our machiens at work only because it’s a free vm 
system, some of my colleagues use parallels as a preference but they are 
sighted so don’t have the issues of voiceover with parallels to deal with.
It’s a shame parallels isn’t accessible as it appears to be the best of the 3 
vm tools. At least for the sighted.

I find to many things get screwed up with vms around my work place, people 
changing settings or profiles or group policies  therefore I just desided to 
setup bootcamp and keep away from the vm side of things to avoid other peoples 
screw ups.

But more I have better control of my bootcamp than my vm.

However in saying that I have a windows 10 machine at work that I have 3 vm
S on for different uses,
 This allows me to access systems that are more restricted and don’t have to be 
running constantly.

Hope that makes sence.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 3:17 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling 
Mac users: Please read

Simon, what attracts you to the boot camp solution?  I’m interested you seem to 
prefer this.  I am a VM fan but wonder what advantages you’re finding running 
windows separately.  I would have thought having both available at the same 
time would be preferable.  Give me your take on things, very interested.

Thank you

On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Hi Arnold,

I work with both windows and mac systems / machines,

I do a lot of work both at home and work with active directory and exchange 
servers so I prefer to use windows for exchange and windows active directory 
admin tools for AD. The AD tools is not something that at this point can be 
done from a mac or at least that we have found.

I also find that speed for me in windows is  still greater due to years more of 
use so I still fall back to that for comfort.


I play more of my media on the mac as it’s better setup for media both playing 
and production.
But being able to have both systems in one machine is an excellent choice, I 
can flick between OS’s within 20 seconds

But mainly it’s comfort and a lack of knowledge and then the power tools that 
make me use the windows machine.
Hope that helps

Cheers,


Simon f


From: 
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 On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 12:33 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Windows For An Hour A Day, was Re: For new, or majorly struggling Mac 
users: Please read

Your original message brings up an interesting point, in that you said you 
might spend half hour, , to an hour in windows.  Being that I have now ordered 
my Mac mini, I am not going back this time, what type things simply work better 
in windows than on the mac?  Oftentimes, it is that the user simply does not 
know how to do something well when they say something doesn't work as well, so 
I am more interested in the answer from the more experienced users.  I know, 
for example, that Openbook will not be available to me on the Mac, I don't know 
how well DocuScan, from System Access works, and it sounds as if scanning and 
reading, by importing everything into a word processing app is about more 
trouble than it is worth.  No problem, I will use KNFB reader on my iPhone.  
But what else does windows do better?  Thanks for any opinions.

Arnold Schmidt

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RE: Looking for Slack feedback from voiceover users on OSX and IOS

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Michael,

Thanks for this, I will definitely be looking into this.

We’ve just started using slack at work for our messaging system as it’s not 
hosted locally therefore if systems go down we can still communicate with our 
teams nationwide.

I have only been able to get it to work somewhat accessible on my iPhone but 
mac osx and windows desktop clients are pretty much crap accessibility
So thanks this will be helpful.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Babcock
Sent: Monday, 11 July 2016 2:08 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for Slack feedback from voiceover users on OSX and IOS

Hey all!
I’m posting this message because I’ve recently began using the platform called 
Slack for my team communication needs.
It’s not the most accessible, e.g. Focus jumps around the place at times, and 
things could be designed better. That being said however, the platform can be 
used and it wouldn’t take much to make it more accessible.
A few things from you,
I contacted slack and they gave me positive feedback and state they have a team 
working on accessibility for future releases of the platform.
Both on twitter and via email, they seem to be positive about wanting to 
improve accessibility.
So if you click the link below, I’ll send you the email, shhh, I’m waiting for 
permission to just post its publicly…  But more importantly, you can then ask 
for access to the channel.
https://app.convertkit.com/landing_pages/74668
I’m sure someone will post the email, so if you just want access to the channel 
shoot me a message at:
mich...@yourownpay.com
And I’ll get you in. It’s my hopes we all can share knowledge with the slack 
team from different points of views.
NOTE, you will only get info about slack.
They have versions for the following platforms:
Windows, Mac, Linux (Beta), IOS, android, and windows phones. You can also 
interact with the service using a web browser.
https://slack.com/downloads
It’s free for most users.

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This Is a Great App for Journaling or Maintaining a Digital Diary

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I was just using MacJournal for IPhone, a great little iOS app, and thought
I would remind those of you, who like to journal, that it is VoiceOver
accessible.  

Just so you know, I have never used this tool in OS X so cannot speak to its
VoiceOver accessibility on the Mac, itself.

Mark

MacJournal for iPhone
By Mariner Software

Description 

Talk about some serious journaling experience! 

Introduced for the Mac in 2005 and the iPhone in 2010 (and the iPad version
shortly thereafter) MacJournal for iPhone offers an even greater opportunity
to document important life events while on the go. It's no wonder MacJournal
is the world's most popular journaling app for the Mac.

Out and about? You know what we mean. Run here. Run there. And in between
all that running, events happen. Then, when you're able to stop and take a
breath, you think to yourself, "Now, what was that thing that happened? I
wanted to write it down." - only to realize that you forgot what it was. 

Now you don't have to wait to until you sit at your desk to make an entry in
your journal. MacJournal for iPhone gives you the ability to record an event
or that special moment. 

Organize, chronicle and edit your important information fast and on the fly.
Best of all, unlike other journaling apps out there, you can blog to any of
the popular blog sites using MacJournal. Not a blogger? Use MacJournal on
its own or share your MacJournal data over the cloud with your other MacOS
and iOS devices. Even share documents via iTunes. Whichever way, MacJournal
has you covered. 

WITH MACJOURNAL YOU CAN: 
Create entries in multiple journals 
Attach images to your entries 
Edit styles in entries 
Using Dropbox, manage multiple MacJournal documents, that can reside on your
device
Share entries to Facebook and Twitter 
Blog from your journal on your iPhone or iPod Touch to one of a list of
popular servers such as Blogger, Wordpress, Tumblr and Posterous 
Set a passcode to lock your data upon opening MacJournal 
Have consistent and familiar look and feel on both iPhone version and Mac
version 
Search or browse entries by using the search field at the top of each
journal screen 
Create numbered or bulleted lists 
Journal in either landscape or portrait mode 

***Sharing data with MacJournal for Mac OS via Dropbox requires MacJournal
for Mac OS 6.0.6 or higher. MacJournal for Mac OS 6.0.6 or higher is also
recommended for sharing data via wifi sync 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/macjournal-for-iphone/id357602069?mt=8


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