Re: speaking rate for vo on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

yeah. thanks. exactly what I was asking for.

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:32 AM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
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> Hi, Lorie. If you want to slow the speech down without going into the 
> Voiceover Utility, hold down the command and VO keys and press the left or 
> right arrow until Alex says speaking rate. You can adjust the rate of the 
> voice by holding down the command and VO keys and hitting down or up arrow to 
> increase or decrease the speech rate. This is a quick way to adjust the 
> speech settings for Voiceover like the voice and intonation on the fly.
> Hope that helps.
> Thanks.
> Katie
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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>> I want to slow Alex down so I can play an article for a friend who doesn't 
>> have a computer. what's the keystroke for that?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: speaking rate for vo on a Mac

[Katie Zodrow]

Hi, Lorie. If you want to slow the speech down without going into the Voiceover 
Utility, hold down the command and VO keys and press the left or right arrow 
until Alex says speaking rate. You can adjust the rate of the voice by holding 
down the command and VO keys and hitting down or up arrow to increase or 
decrease the speech rate. This is a quick way to adjust the speech settings for 
Voiceover like the voice and intonation on the fly.
Hope that helps.
Thanks.
Katie

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I want to slow Alex down so I can play an article for a friend who doesn't 
> have a computer. what's the keystroke for that?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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RE: iClever bluetooth keyboard

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Andrew,

 I know when I paired mine to my iPhone and iPad I pressed the 
Fn plus c to connect the phone then I thought it was Fn plus I possibly for my 
second device,
I thought there were instructions with the keyboard but I may have that wrong 
now.
-Original Message-
From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2020 10:41 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: iClever bluetooth keyboard

Hi Donna,

I’ve just tried to pair it with my iPhone having paired it first with my 
Android phone and it’s no go.  My iPhone doesn’t see it.  Unless I’m pressing 
the wrong pairing key.  For my Android I pressed fn + C key and the Android 
could discover it and pair.  I did the same with my iPhone but no luck.  i 
can’t find any documentation on the internet for it. I like the size of this 
foldable keyboard.  It would be a bonus to be able to use it with more than one 
device.

Thanks for your response.

Andrew
> On 5 Jan 2020, at 13:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Andrew,
> 
> I have one of these keyboards, but I don't use it often. I *think it does 
> connect to more than one device, though I'm not 100% sure.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> A question to those who use iClever bluetooth keyboard.  Does this keyboard 
>> connect to more than one device?
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Andrew
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interesting popup in Chrome browser

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Lists,

I'm just wondering if anyone else has seen a pop up within the google chrome 
browser in the passed day or so that says there has been a leaked details of 
the new iPhone
I can only assume that it's the 2020 iPhone but leaked details / images already?

Has anyone else seen / heard this pop up?
Simon F

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Re: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to Inbox in Mail

[Lorie McCloud]

that's what I do too. move stuff out of my junk box and into my inbox. I've had 
to do it several times with some messages or some senders but more and more 
they start going into my inbox.

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Maria,
> Are you saying that simply by moving them out of my bulk folder and into my 
> inbox
> , that I will train my mail filtering?
> 
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> Dave Carlson
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Re: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to Inbox in Mail

[Maria Reyes]

Apparently not. I just know that I have a Gmail account and most of the 
messages go into my inbox. I only see about 5 or 6 messages in the Junk folder. 
I don't know about other accounts but I've heard you can set some kind of 
filter for your gmail account so your mail will go to your inbox.

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:30 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
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> That won’t do it.
> When I first joined this list, all my incoming messages from the group were 
> going to my Junk folder.  Nothing I did in the Apple Mail client fixed this.  
> What I had to do, was login to my AT&T/Yahoo mail account, and through the 
> web access, go in to my Junk folder, and select a mail item from the group, 
> and mark it as “Not Junk”, and that fixed it.
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> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
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> On Jan 7, 2020, at 23:17, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Maria,
> Are you saying that simply by moving them out of my bulk folder and into my 
> inbox
> , that I will train my mail filtering?
> 
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer
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Re: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to Inbox in Mail

[Bradford Snyder]

That won’t do it.
When I first joined this list, all my incoming messages from the group were 
going to my Junk folder.  Nothing I did in the Apple Mail client fixed this.  
What I had to do, was login to my AT&T/Yahoo mail account, and through the web 
access, go in to my Junk folder, and select a mail item from the group, and 
mark it as “Not Junk”, and that fixed it.

HTH

- Brad -



On Jan 7, 2020, at 23:17, Dave Carlson  wrote:

Maria,
Are you saying that simply by moving them out of my bulk folder and into my 
inbox
, that I will train my mail filtering?


Dave Carlson
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Re: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to Inbox in Mail

[Dave Carlson]

Maria,
Are you saying that simply by moving them out of my bulk folder and into my 
inbox
, that I will train my mail filtering?


Dave Carlson
Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer





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Re: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to Inbox in Mail

[Dave Carlson]

K, same here. Many of my MacVisionaries messages go to my bulk mail folder. 
Nothing I do seems to train my mail server to stop filtering them.


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Re: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to Inbox in Mail

[Maria Reyes]

hi. Couldn't you move the message back to the inbox? I'm sure there's a better 
way to do it on the Mac.

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 10:56 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
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> Guys,
> I almost never post here.  I’ve just noticed that one of the mailing lists to 
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> aMail.  I have no idea why.  I’ve been a member of this list for years and 
> this behavior seems to have just started within the last week.  I’ve tried 
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> success.  No idea what to do.
> Sorry if I’m not giving you enough information.
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How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to Inbox in Mail

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,
I almost never post here.  I’ve just noticed that one of the mailing lists to 
which I subscribe is having its posts always sent to the Junk box in Mac aMail. 
 I have no idea why.  I’ve been a member of this list for years and this 
behavior seems to have just started within the last week.  I’ve tried 
correcting it through both the Gmail web interface and Mac Mail without 
success.  No idea what to do.
Sorry if I’m not giving you enough information.

Thanks in advance,
Kevin

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Re: speaking rate for vo on a Mac

[Dave Carlson]

Ah. Should have read a few ore messages before I hit the reply key.


Dave Carlson
Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian






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Re: speaking rate for vo on a Mac

[Dave Carlson]

Bradford,
You may want to mention that right/left arrow might be necessary to bring up 
the speed of the voice, since intonation, pitch, and voice are also available 
in this area.


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Re: 360 Mac Care? - uninstalling Flash Player

[Bradford Snyder]

Here you go:

HTH

Uninstall Flash Player | Mac OS
 <>These instructions are NOT applicable to Flash Player included with Google 
Chrome. Visit the Flash Player Help page 
 for instructions on enabling (or 
disabling) Flash Player in various browsers.

 <>
 <>Flash Player information

 <>If Flash Player is installed on your computer, the following box displays 
the version of Flash Player and your operating system. If Flash Player is not 
installed, an error message appears.

 <>Flash Player installation failed

 <>If your Flash Player installation was not successful, use the following 
solution to reinstall.

 <>Solution: Download and run the uninstaller

 <>
 <>
 <>
 <>1. Determine your Mac OS version 

 <>Click the Apple icon and choose About This Mac.

The Mac OS version appears in the About This Mac dialog.


 <>2. Run the uninstaller applicable to your Mac OS version

 <>Run the uninstaller on Mac OS X 10.4 and later, including macOS
Run the uninstaller on Mac OS X 10.1 to 10.3
Note:

Beginning with Flash Player 11.5, uninstalling the Flash Player resets the 
AutoUpdateDisable and SilentAutoUpdateEnable settings in mms.cfg to their 
default values:

AutoUpdateDisable=0
SilentAutoUpdateEnable=0
If you are running the Flash Player uninstaller as part of your deployment 
process, redeploy any custom changes to either AutoUpdateDisable or 
SilentAutoUpdateEnable.

 <>Run the uninstaller on Mac OS X 10.4 and later, including macOS

 <>In Safari, choose Window > Downloads.

If you are using Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion), click the Downloads icon displayed on 
the browser.

 <>In Mozilla, choose Tools > Downloads.

 <>To open the uninstaller, double-click it in the Downloads window.

 <>Note: If the Flash Player installer window does not appear, choose Go > 
Desktop in the Finder. Scroll down to the Devices section and click Uninstall 
Flash Player.

 <>To run the uninstaller, double-click the Uninstaller icon in the window. If 
you see a message asking if you want to open the uninstaller file, click Open.

 <>When the uninstaller starts, click Uninstall.
 <>Bookmark or print this page so that you can use the rest of these 
instructions after you close your browser.
 <>To close all browsers, either click the browser name in the Uninstaller 
dialog, or close each browser manually and then click Retry.

Note: Do not click Quit in the Uninstaller window. It stops the uninstallation 
process.

 <>After you close the browsers, the uninstaller continues automatically until 
the uninstallation is complete. When you see the message notifying you that the 
uninstallation succeeded, click Done.


 <>Delete the following directories:

/Library/Preferences/Macromedia/Flash\ Player
/Library/Caches/Adobe/Flash\ Player
 <>Verify that uninstallation is complete.
 <>Run the uninstaller on Mac OS X 10.1 to 10.3

 <>Choose Window > Downloads to view the downloaded uninstaller.

 <>Save the uninstaller file in a convenient location.

 <>To open the uninstaller, double-click it in the Downloads window. 

 <>To run the uninstaller, double-click the Uninstaller icon in the window. If 
requested, enter your computer user name and password and click OK.

 <>When the uninstaller starts, click Continue. 

 <> Bookmark or print this page so that you can use the rest of these 
instructions after you close your browser. Close all browsers and other 
applications that use Flash Player, including instant messaging applications, 
SWF files, and projectors (EXE files that play SWF files). Otherwise, the 
uninstaller cannot finish (even though it appears to finish).

 <>Once the uninstaller finishes, the window closes automatically.

 <>Verify that uninstallation is complete.

 <>
 <>3. Verify that uninstallation is complete

 <>You can verify that uninstallation is complete by following these steps:

 <>




On Jan 6, 2020, at 06:55, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

How can you get the flash player to go completely away?

Kristeen


On Jan 2, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Just my opinion, but I would be Leary of anything that just “pops up” on my 
computer.  I would also advise that you stop using Flash Player because it is 
widely known to be a security risk, and no longer necessary on a Mac.

- Brad -


On Jan 2, 2020, at 14:44, CHUCK REICHEL mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi List,
This app popped up on my mac book air after updating flash player under Mojave.
360 Mac Care helps you Speed Up Your Mac and Make it Secure. It aims to provide 
users a great experience for an Optimized Mac and optimal use of resources.
Heres one of the things it listed;
360 Mac Care has found junk and unwanted items on your mac that can be safely 
deleted.
360 Mac Care"” is from this company • Wise Tech Labs Private Limited, All 
rights reserved.
Any body using this and is it safe and efficient?
Thanks
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Ein

Re: speaking rate for vo on a Mac

[Bradford Snyder]

BTW - After pressing VO + COMMAND + SHIFT, you may need to use the Right or 
Left arrow keys to select Rate, before using the Up or Down arrow keys to 
change the speech rate.

- Brad -



On Jan 7, 2020, at 19:31, Bradford Snyder  wrote:

To change the VoiceOver speech rate, use the following keyboard command:
VO + COMMAND + SHIFT + Up or Down Arrow.

HTH

- Brad -



On Jan 7, 2020, at 19:20, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I want to slow Alex down so I can play an article for a friend who doesn't have 
a computer. what's the keystroke for that?

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: speaking rate for vo on a Mac

[Bradford Snyder]

To change the VoiceOver speech rate, use the following keyboard command:
VO + COMMAND + SHIFT + Up or Down Arrow.

HTH

- Brad -



On Jan 7, 2020, at 19:20, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I want to slow Alex down so I can play an article for a friend who doesn't have 
a computer. what's the keystroke for that?

thanks.
Lorie

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speaking rate for vo on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

I want to slow Alex down so I can play an article for a friend who doesn't have 
a computer. what's the keystroke for that?

thanks.
Lorie

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RE: Using a Focus braille display with Mac and IOS?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I discovered the problem.  

>From the VoiceOver Utility dialog box, I removed the Focus from the list of 
>Braille displays and then, re-added it and now all is as it should be.

The display is working like a champ.

Kawal, I cannot reproduce your original issue of being bounced out of the Mail 
app when writing / replying to an email.

Regardless of the various Layout Settings, the Focus is performing as expected.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Pete De Vasto
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 7:50 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using a Focus braille display with Mac and IOS?

Hi all,

I am replying to this e-mail using an original Focus 40 Blue display. As you 
can see, I am typing just fine. I can press Chord D and that deletes the last 
character I typed. I’ve not tried other Chord commands as yet because I am more 
used to a regular keyboard, but if one works I’d be others would as well. For 
what it might be worth, my VO Braille settings are set to English US output, 
allow contracted Braille is unchecked, use 8-dot Braille is checked, and use 
automatic Braille translation is unchecked. I’m discovering that if you alter 
even one of the above settings, that can make a difference for what works and 
does not. Let me know if I can be of any further help.

Pete De Vasto

> On Jan 6, 2020, at 8:45 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jonathan and Kawal,
> 
> Okay, I just connected my Freedom Scientific Focus 40 Blue, the original 
> model, to my Mac via USB and could type a new email, just fine.
> 
> The problem I have is that I cannot use any cord combinations and I cannot 
> use the dot 7 or the dot 8 key.  When I attempt any cord combos or press 
> either the dot 7 or 8 key, I get a ding.  
> 
> I have rebooted the Mac several times and have attempted every workaround I 
> know but nothing helps.  
> 
> Again, I can enter letters and spaces without difficulty but when I attempt 
> to use the space bar in combination with any other key, all I get is a ding.  
> 
> Very strange.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 7:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using a Focus braille display with Mac and IOS?
> 
> I can think of two possibilities.
> 1. space with dots 1,8 will lock the command key on a Braille display.
> 2. You have quickNav enabled. I believe chord Q  should turn it off.
> 
> Doing modifier key actions on a Mac is a little different from the PC. 
> 1. You can't enable multiple modifier keys in one chord. 
> 2. You use dot 7 with  space and one of the dots 1-6 to toggle a modifier for 
> the next character pressed.
> 
> Hope this solves your issue,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:04 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi There.
> 
> I am just trying to write with my focus but when I press the letters on my 
> braille display it goes out of the mail program.  So what am I doing wrong as 
> I wanted to write with contracted braille using the braille display.
> 
> Also are there any podcasts on how to use the focus with the Mac OS?  I can 
> use the braille display with windows by controling the machine even though 
> it’s a virtual machine with my Focus but can’t do the same with the Mac.  I 
> wish I could.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> 
> On 5 Jan 2020, at 20:55, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> well, hims is selling their displays for now, and hims customer service 
> hasn’t been great historically, but when I asked a question last week I got a 
> reply in two days, and that was right on new year’s eve when I asked, so I 
> was impressed. I worry about any company for the blind or visually impaired 
> if I’m honest. so many are moving to phones using speech and abandoning 
> specialized equipment. I would be concerned yes, but the display is 
> outstanding, imo the hardware is better than vario. I had to send my VU in 
> twice for issues, but not the actilino. the actilino also uses an off the 
> shelf battery, so if like my vu did the battery goes you can just buy a 7 
> dollar battery from amazon and replace it yourself. I also had to write 
> handitech, or helptech or whatever they are now directly once, requesting 
> better software, just ideas for improvements, and had someone reply to me 
> twice within an hour. I am not going to tell you not to worry at all that 
> they’ll be around, but if it was me I would still buy one. as I said the 
> software is awful, but the hardware is incredible. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'd at least like to have the option of using it to control my computer. Just 
> out of curiosity, because I know you went through the Baum debacle too, do 
> you ever worry about HandyTech going under?
> Cheers,

Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I was traveling over the holidays, so I haven't done much with it, but yes. 
Also, VoiceDream works really well, too.
Donna


> On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Yes the more I do this the better. Are you still happy with that 99 cent 
> text editor?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 1/7/2020 11:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the files 
>> you've worked with within the app.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna,
>>>   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify that 
>>> again. I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the screen) 
>>> but I will work with it. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi ET,
 When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently 
 opened files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, 
 recents, which is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse 
 and open files in iCloud drive.
 In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All 
 your recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to 
 enable iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which 
 is at the top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. 
 Then select Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice 
 between Recents, and Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, 
 that will be one of your options.
 HTH,
 Donna
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
>   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am 
> finally getting around to working on this.
> 
>   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would 
> I edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other 
> hand, if I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on 
> iCloud Drive.
> 
>   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access 
> from any device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them 
> is fine. But if I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I 
> can figure out iCloud Drive, I am home free. Thanks.
> 
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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Yes the more I do this the better. Are you still happy with that 99 
cent text editor?


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/7/2020 11:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the files 
you've worked with within the app.
Cheers,
Donna



On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify that again. 
I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the screen) but I will 
work with it. Thanks.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,
When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently opened 
files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, recents, which 
is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse and open files in 
iCloud drive.
In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All your 
recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to enable 
iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which is at the 
top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. Then select 
Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice between Recents, and 
Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will be one of your 
options.
HTH,
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Donna,
   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
getting around to working on this.

   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, if 
I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.

   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from any 
device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. But if 
I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out iCloud 
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Re: Using a Focus braille display with Mac and IOS?

[Pete De Vasto]

Kawal,

First off, make sure that when you try to type something, you are interacting 
with the text. Press dots 2+3+6+ space, that gets you into the text, and then 
dots 3+5+6+ space to stop interacting. Then, go to the VO Utility, select 
Braille, then the Displays tab. Once there, there’s a button to add a command. 
Pressing that button will give you a list of each and every key combination 
available on your Focus. There are even keys to press the Shift, command and 
control keys. I’m wondering if something is locked that would be causing all 
your braille character to show as selected. I’m in a hurry to do other things 
right now, but wanted to get this off in hopes it could help.

ete

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 2:09 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pete.
> 
> I am using a 5th or what ever it’s called the latest generation of Focus and 
> I have changed the settings to what you said.
> 
> I can’t type anything using the focus now and if I try, space bar will 
> activate the spotlight menu and if I try to write chorded  grade 2 braille, 
> the voice over thing will ping and if I hit spacebar it’s the spotlight menu.
>  I notice all my braille is selected.
> So what do you think of that anyone?
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 7 Jan 2020, at 15:50, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am replying to this e-mail using an original Focus 40 Blue display. As you 
>> can see, I am typing just fine. I can press Chord D and that deletes the 
>> last character I typed. I’ve not tried other Chord commands as yet because I 
>> am more used to a regular keyboard, but if one works I’d be others would as 
>> well. For what it might be worth, my VO Braille settings are set to English 
>> US output, allow contracted Braille is unchecked, use 8-dot Braille is 
>> checked, and use automatic Braille translation is unchecked. I’m discovering 
>> that if you alter even one of the above settings, that can make a difference 
>> for what works and does not. Let me know if I can be of any further help.
>> 
>> Pete De Vasto
>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2020, at 8:45 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Jonathan and Kawal,
>>> 
>>> Okay, I just connected my Freedom Scientific Focus 40 Blue, the original 
>>> model, to my Mac via USB and could type a new email, just fine.
>>> 
>>> The problem I have is that I cannot use any cord combinations and I cannot 
>>> use the dot 7 or the dot 8 key.  When I attempt any cord combos or press 
>>> either the dot 7 or 8 key, I get a ding.  
>>> 
>>> I have rebooted the Mac several times and have attempted every workaround I 
>>> know but nothing helps.  
>>> 
>>> Again, I can enter letters and spaces without difficulty but when I attempt 
>>> to use the space bar in combination with any other key, all I get is a 
>>> ding.  
>>> 
>>> Very strange.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
>>> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 7:28 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Using a Focus braille display with Mac and IOS?
>>> 
>>> I can think of two possibilities.
>>> 1. space with dots 1,8 will lock the command key on a Braille display.
>>> 2. You have quickNav enabled. I believe chord Q  should turn it off.
>>> 
>>> Doing modifier key actions on a Mac is a little different from the PC. 
>>> 1. You can't enable multiple modifier keys in one chord. 
>>> 2. You use dot 7 with  space and one of the dots 1-6 to toggle a modifier 
>>> for the next character pressed.
>>> 
>>> Hope this solves your issue,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:04 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi There.
>>> 
>>> I am just trying to write with my focus but when I press the letters on my 
>>> braille display it goes out of the mail program.  So what am I doing wrong 
>>> as I wanted to write with contracted braille using the braille display.
>>> 
>>> Also are there any podcasts on how to use the focus with the Mac OS?  I can 
>>> use the braille display with windows by controling the machine even though 
>>> it’s a virtual machine with my Focus but can’t do the same with the Mac.  I 
>>> wish I could.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5 Jan 2020, at 20:55, alia robinson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> well, hims is selling their displays for now, and hims customer service 
>>> hasn’t been great historically, but when I asked a question last week I got 
>>> a reply in two days, and that was right on new year’s eve when I asked, so 
>>> I was impressed. I worry about any company for the blind or visually 
>>> impaired if I’m honest. so many are moving to phones using speech and 
>>> abandoning specialized equipment. I would be concerned yes, but the display 
>>> is outstanding, imo the hardware is better than vario. I had to send my VU 
>>> in twice for issues, but not the actilino. the actilino also uses an off 
>>> the shelf battery, so if like my vu di

Strategy for reading youtube live stream comments

[Ibraheem Fakir]

Hi list,

Recently subscribed to a class taught using youtube live stream and having a 
difficult time trying to quickly read comments coming into the stream and 
contribute my own comments. Is there a way to set this up so that Voiceover can 
be prompted to read the latest   comment?  There are hundreds of comments 
coming in really quickly and having a way to navigate the live conversation 
would make participation far more meaningful. 

Thank you so much!
Ibraheem

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Is there a way to disable Voiceover announcement of braille pattern dots for braille Unicode?

[mohammad suliman]

Hello all,
Hope all are doing well!

I have a question: on the mac and iOS also, is there a way to disable
voiceover announcing braille pattern dots for each braille Unicode
character?
I'll give some context: we are developing some website in which we are
showing some data as braille Unicode characters, we want the user to be
able to read this data on the braille display, but we want voiceover speech
to stay silent when going over this data.
Hope my question is clear!

Thanks in advance!
Mohammad

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Re: Using a Focus braille display with Mac and IOS?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Pete.

I am using a 5th or what ever it’s called the latest generation of Focus and I 
have changed the settings to what you said.

I can’t type anything using the focus now and if I try, space bar will activate 
the spotlight menu and if I try to write chorded  grade 2 braille, the voice 
over thing will ping and if I hit spacebar it’s the spotlight menu.
  I notice all my braille is selected.
So what do you think of that anyone?

Kawal.

> On 7 Jan 2020, at 15:50, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am replying to this e-mail using an original Focus 40 Blue display. As you 
> can see, I am typing just fine. I can press Chord D and that deletes the last 
> character I typed. I’ve not tried other Chord commands as yet because I am 
> more used to a regular keyboard, but if one works I’d be others would as 
> well. For what it might be worth, my VO Braille settings are set to English 
> US output, allow contracted Braille is unchecked, use 8-dot Braille is 
> checked, and use automatic Braille translation is unchecked. I’m discovering 
> that if you alter even one of the above settings, that can make a difference 
> for what works and does not. Let me know if I can be of any further help.
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2020, at 8:45 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Jonathan and Kawal,
>> 
>> Okay, I just connected my Freedom Scientific Focus 40 Blue, the original 
>> model, to my Mac via USB and could type a new email, just fine.
>> 
>> The problem I have is that I cannot use any cord combinations and I cannot 
>> use the dot 7 or the dot 8 key.  When I attempt any cord combos or press 
>> either the dot 7 or 8 key, I get a ding.  
>> 
>> I have rebooted the Mac several times and have attempted every workaround I 
>> know but nothing helps.  
>> 
>> Again, I can enter letters and spaces without difficulty but when I attempt 
>> to use the space bar in combination with any other key, all I get is a ding. 
>>  
>> 
>> Very strange.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
>> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 7:28 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Using a Focus braille display with Mac and IOS?
>> 
>> I can think of two possibilities.
>> 1. space with dots 1,8 will lock the command key on a Braille display.
>> 2. You have quickNav enabled. I believe chord Q  should turn it off.
>> 
>> Doing modifier key actions on a Mac is a little different from the PC. 
>> 1. You can't enable multiple modifier keys in one chord. 
>> 2. You use dot 7 with  space and one of the dots 1-6 to toggle a modifier 
>> for the next character pressed.
>> 
>> Hope this solves your issue,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:04 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi There.
>> 
>> I am just trying to write with my focus but when I press the letters on my 
>> braille display it goes out of the mail program.  So what am I doing wrong 
>> as I wanted to write with contracted braille using the braille display.
>> 
>> Also are there any podcasts on how to use the focus with the Mac OS?  I can 
>> use the braille display with windows by controling the machine even though 
>> it’s a virtual machine with my Focus but can’t do the same with the Mac.  I 
>> wish I could.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> 
>> On 5 Jan 2020, at 20:55, alia robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> well, hims is selling their displays for now, and hims customer service 
>> hasn’t been great historically, but when I asked a question last week I got 
>> a reply in two days, and that was right on new year’s eve when I asked, so I 
>> was impressed. I worry about any company for the blind or visually impaired 
>> if I’m honest. so many are moving to phones using speech and abandoning 
>> specialized equipment. I would be concerned yes, but the display is 
>> outstanding, imo the hardware is better than vario. I had to send my VU in 
>> twice for issues, but not the actilino. the actilino also uses an off the 
>> shelf battery, so if like my vu did the battery goes you can just buy a 7 
>> dollar battery from amazon and replace it yourself. I also had to write 
>> handitech, or helptech or whatever they are now directly once, requesting 
>> better software, just ideas for improvements, and had someone reply to me 
>> twice within an hour. I am not going to tell you not to worry at all that 
>> they’ll be around, but if it was me I would still buy one. as I said the 
>> software is awful, but the hardware is incredible. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd at least like to have the option of using it to control my computer. 
>> Just out of curiosity, because I know you went through the Baum debacle too, 
>> do you ever worry about HandyTech going under?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: Dropbox has no windows

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Yes, I have written to them about dropbox and Windows too.
> On 5 Jan 2020, at 22:58, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Its awful in Windows now too.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 4:12 PM
> To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Dropbox has no windows
> 
> is the tech department at dropbox concerned about accessibility? several 
> people have comnplained about the latest upgrade. I'm considering going with 
> one of their plans because they've been the easiest for me to use.
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:15 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Try to go to the menu extra, find the dropbox icon and vo+spacebar on it.  
>> You should here a sound and have a look there for various options.  Dropbox 
>> has changed recently and is more difficult for me to configure.  I’ve 
>> already reported it to Dropbox team.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 3 Jan 2020, at 22:40, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
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>>> I’ve been trying to work on my laptop since my beloved I Mac is dead.  Drop 
>>> box popped up and said I needed to upgrade, so I followed the prompts and 
>>> downloaded it from the drop box site.  When I tried to install it, it said 
>>> dropbox has no windows.  When I tried a second time, I got the message that 
>>> the operation couldn’t be performed because the app was in use!  
>>> 
>>> Can anybody help with this?  How do I get drop box installed?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Caitlyn
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Re: Dropbox has no windows

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

I wrote to them about the problems I had on their website as well as in the 
application window including settings and they seemd to take this on board but 
when they are going to improve accessibility is a thousand dollar question.  
The more of us write to them the better though.

Andrew
> On 5 Jan 2020, at 22:11, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> is the tech department at dropbox concerned about accessibility? several 
> people have comnplained about the latest upgrade. I'm considering going with 
> one of their plans because they've been the easiest for me to use.
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:15 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Try to go to the menu extra, find the dropbox icon and vo+spacebar on it.  
>> You should here a sound and have a look there for various options.  Dropbox 
>> has changed recently and is more difficult for me to configure.  I’ve 
>> already reported it to Dropbox team.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 3 Jan 2020, at 22:40, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve been trying to work on my laptop since my beloved I Mac is dead.  Drop 
>>> box popped up and said I needed to upgrade, so I followed the prompts and 
>>> downloaded it from the drop box site.  When I tried to install it, it said 
>>> dropbox has no windows.  When I tried a second time, I got the message that 
>>> the operation couldn’t be performed because the app was in use!  
>>> 
>>> Can anybody help with this?  How do I get drop box installed?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Caitlyn
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Re: iClever bluetooth keyboard

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Mine is also BK03 although it is bifold only.  Are there any particular key 
combination I need to press to pair it with different devices and then to 
connect to a chosen one?

Andrew
> On 6 Jan 2020, at 11:00, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yes the model I have can connect to 3 devices,
> 
> I think the model I have is a BK03 
> It's the tri folding bt keyboard,
> Hope that helps.
> 
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> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> A question to those who use iClever bluetooth keyboard.  Does this keyboard 
> connect to more than one device?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew
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Re: iClever bluetooth keyboard

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Hi Donna,

I’ve just tried to pair it with my iPhone having paired it first with my 
Android phone and it’s no go.  My iPhone doesn’t see it.  Unless I’m pressing 
the wrong pairing key.  For my Android I pressed fn + C key and the Android 
could discover it and pair.  I did the same with my iPhone but no luck.  i 
can’t find any documentation on the internet for it. I like the size of this 
foldable keyboard.  It would be a bonus to be able to use it with more than one 
device.

Thanks for your response.

Andrew
> On 5 Jan 2020, at 13:18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> I have one of these keyboards, but I don't use it often. I *think it does 
> connect to more than one device, though I'm not 100% sure.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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> 
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>> A question to those who use iClever bluetooth keyboard.  Does this keyboard 
>> connect to more than one device?
>> 
>> Many thanks
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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

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Hi,

Yes.

Later...


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On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:21, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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Tim,
  Had not thought to look at the Share feature. So if I share the document and 
edit it, the copy on iCloud Drive is untouched? Can you then save it back to 
iCloud Drive? Thanks, as always.

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> Hi,
> A problem with the method I mentioned is that it will make a duplicate copy 
> of the document in the other app.  so, for example, if you chose to share the 
> document to Pages, it would make an editable copy of the document with the 
> dot-Pages extension.  Thus, you would not be specifically working in the same 
> document as you had originally in the Files app.  Not sure if this will be 
> improved upon in future updates to the Files app, but that's the best I can 
> suggest for now.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> Hi,
> When you are reading the document within the Files app, you should have a 
> Share button down near the bottom of the screen.  Double-tap that and send it 
> to the app you wish to edit it in.
> Later...
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> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:50, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> Hi Donna,
>   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
> getting around to working on this.
>   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
> edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, 
> if I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.
>   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from 
> any device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. 
> But if I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out 
> iCloud Drive, I am home free. Thanks.
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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

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It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the files 
you've worked with within the app.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> Donna,
>   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify that 
> again. I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the screen) 
> but I will work with it. Thanks.
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>> Hi ET,
>> When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently opened 
>> files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, recents, 
>> which is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse and open 
>> files in iCloud drive.
>> In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All 
>> your recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to 
>> enable iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which is 
>> at the top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. Then 
>> select Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice between 
>> Recents, and Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will 
>> be one of your options.
>> HTH,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>>   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am 
>>> finally getting around to working on this.
>>> 
>>>   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
>>> edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, 
>>> if I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.
>>> 
>>>   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from 
>>> any device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is 
>>> fine. But if I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can 
>>> figure out iCloud Drive, I am home free. Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

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Donna,
   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify 
that again. I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the 
screen) but I will work with it. Thanks.


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On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,

When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently opened 
files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, recents, which 
is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse and open files in 
iCloud drive.

In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All your 
recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to enable 
iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which is at the 
top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. Then select 
Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice between Recents, and 
Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will be one of your 
options.
HTH,
Donna


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Hi Donna,
   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
getting around to working on this.

   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, if 
I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.

   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from any 
device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. But if 
I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out iCloud 
Drive, I am home free. Thanks.

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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Tim,
   Had not thought to look at the Share feature. So if I share the 
document and edit it, the copy on iCloud Drive is untouched? Can you 
then save it back to iCloud Drive? Thanks, as always.


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On 1/7/2020 11:00 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

A problem with the method I mentioned is that it will make a duplicate 
copy of the document in the other app.  so, for example, if you chose to 
share the document to Pages, it would make an editable copy of the 
document with the dot-Pages extension.  Thus, you would not be 
specifically working in the same document as you had originally in the 
Files app.  Not sure if this will be improved upon in future updates to 
the Files app, but that's the best I can suggest for now.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Hi,

When you are reading the document within the Files app, you should have 
a Share button down near the bottom of the screen.  Double-tap that and 
send it to the app you wish to edit it in.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:50, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Hi Donna,
   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am 
finally getting around to working on this.


   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then 
would I edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the 
other hand, if I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder 
on iCloud Drive.


   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access 
from any device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them 
is fine. But if I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I 
can figure out iCloud Drive, I am home free. Thanks.


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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi ET,

When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently opened 
files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, recents, which 
is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse and open files in 
iCloud drive.

In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All your 
recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to enable 
iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which is at the 
top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. Then select 
Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice between Recents, and 
Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will be one of your 
options.
HTH,
Donna

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
>   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
> getting around to working on this.
> 
>   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
> edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, 
> if I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.
> 
>   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from 
> any device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. 
> But if I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out 
> iCloud Drive, I am home free. Thanks.
> 
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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

A problem with the method I mentioned is that it will make a duplicate copy of 
the document in the other app.  so, for example, if you chose to share the 
document to Pages, it would make an editable copy of the document with the 
dot-Pages extension.  Thus, you would not be specifically working in the same 
document as you had originally in the Files app.  Not sure if this will be 
improved upon in future updates to the Files app, but that's the best I can 
suggest for now.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

When you are reading the document within the Files app, you should have a Share 
button down near the bottom of the screen.  Double-tap that and send it to the 
app you wish to edit it in.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:50, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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Hi Donna,
  We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
getting around to working on this.

  On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, if 
I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.

  I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from any 
device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. But if 
I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out iCloud 
Drive, I am home free. Thanks.

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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

When you are reading the document within the Files app, you should have a Share 
button down near the bottom of the screen.  Double-tap that and send it to the 
app you wish to edit it in.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:50, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Donna,
  We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
getting around to working on this.

  On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, if 
I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.

  I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from any 
device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. But if 
I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out iCloud 
Drive, I am home free. Thanks.

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iCloud Drive and Editors

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Donna,
   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am 
finally getting around to working on this.


   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then 
would I edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the 
other hand, if I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder 
on iCloud Drive.


   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access 
from any device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them 
is fine. But if I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I 
can figure out iCloud Drive, I am home free. Thanks.


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Re: Using a Focus braille display with Mac and IOS?

[Pete De Vasto]

Hi all,

I am replying to this e-mail using an original Focus 40 Blue display. As you 
can see, I am typing just fine. I can press Chord D and that deletes the last 
character I typed. I’ve not tried other Chord commands as yet because I am more 
used to a regular keyboard, but if one works I’d be others would as well. For 
what it might be worth, my VO Braille settings are set to English US output, 
allow contracted Braille is unchecked, use 8-dot Braille is checked, and use 
automatic Braille translation is unchecked. I’m discovering that if you alter 
even one of the above settings, that can make a difference for what works and 
does not. Let me know if I can be of any further help.

Pete De Vasto

> On Jan 6, 2020, at 8:45 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jonathan and Kawal,
> 
> Okay, I just connected my Freedom Scientific Focus 40 Blue, the original 
> model, to my Mac via USB and could type a new email, just fine.
> 
> The problem I have is that I cannot use any cord combinations and I cannot 
> use the dot 7 or the dot 8 key.  When I attempt any cord combos or press 
> either the dot 7 or 8 key, I get a ding.  
> 
> I have rebooted the Mac several times and have attempted every workaround I 
> know but nothing helps.  
> 
> Again, I can enter letters and spaces without difficulty but when I attempt 
> to use the space bar in combination with any other key, all I get is a ding.  
> 
> Very strange.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 7:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using a Focus braille display with Mac and IOS?
> 
> I can think of two possibilities.
> 1. space with dots 1,8 will lock the command key on a Braille display.
> 2. You have quickNav enabled. I believe chord Q  should turn it off.
> 
> Doing modifier key actions on a Mac is a little different from the PC. 
> 1. You can't enable multiple modifier keys in one chord. 
> 2. You use dot 7 with  space and one of the dots 1-6 to toggle a modifier for 
> the next character pressed.
> 
> Hope this solves your issue,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:04 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi There.
> 
> I am just trying to write with my focus but when I press the letters on my 
> braille display it goes out of the mail program.  So what am I doing wrong as 
> I wanted to write with contracted braille using the braille display.
> 
> Also are there any podcasts on how to use the focus with the Mac OS?  I can 
> use the braille display with windows by controling the machine even though 
> it’s a virtual machine with my Focus but can’t do the same with the Mac.  I 
> wish I could.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> 
> On 5 Jan 2020, at 20:55, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> well, hims is selling their displays for now, and hims customer service 
> hasn’t been great historically, but when I asked a question last week I got a 
> reply in two days, and that was right on new year’s eve when I asked, so I 
> was impressed. I worry about any company for the blind or visually impaired 
> if I’m honest. so many are moving to phones using speech and abandoning 
> specialized equipment. I would be concerned yes, but the display is 
> outstanding, imo the hardware is better than vario. I had to send my VU in 
> twice for issues, but not the actilino. the actilino also uses an off the 
> shelf battery, so if like my vu did the battery goes you can just buy a 7 
> dollar battery from amazon and replace it yourself. I also had to write 
> handitech, or helptech or whatever they are now directly once, requesting 
> better software, just ideas for improvements, and had someone reply to me 
> twice within an hour. I am not going to tell you not to worry at all that 
> they’ll be around, but if it was me I would still buy one. as I said the 
> software is awful, but the hardware is incredible. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> I'd at least like to have the option of using it to control my computer. Just 
> out of curiosity, because I know you went through the Baum debacle too, do 
> you ever worry about HandyTech going under?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: It appears that The Vario Ultra Braille Display is back

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Mark,

I use my VU with my Mac, iPhone, and iPad every day, so I figure it's on topic. 
:) I believe you can subscribe by sending an email to 
varioultra-subscr...@freelists.org.
Best,
Donna

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 8:46 AM, Marc Sutton  wrote:
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> Hi Donna,
> Slightly off list topic. Can you post the Vario Ultra mailing list 
> subscription info to the list? Or send privately?
> Thanks.
> Marc
> 
> 
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>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just passing along a bit of info re the VU braille display, in case it is of 
>> interest.
>> 
>> Yesterday the CEO of a company called InsideVision contacted the VarioUltra 
>> list. He announced that he is the U.S. distributor for the VU and all 
>> formerly Baum--now VisioBraille--products. He also announced that 
>> development of the VU--and I think other braille products--has resumed.  His 
>> name is Igor Feinberg, and  his contact info is:
>> igor.feinb...@insidevision-us.com 
>> 781-799-2971
>> 
>> For me, of course, this means that I'll be sticking with my VU. But thanks 
>> to all of you for your feedback on the Focus and the Actilino. I'll keep all 
>> that info in mind, should I need it in the future.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: Streeming Videos from Iphone to Mac, can we?

[Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر]

Will give it a try,
Thaniks so much


> On Jan 6, 2020, at 7:22 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> Yes.  Connect your iPhone to your Mac with the USB charging cable.  On your 
> Mac, open QuickTime from the Applications folder.  Cancel the Open dialog.  
> From the File menu, select "New Movie Recording".  Select your iPhone from 
> the source menu and make sure that the input volume is not muted.  Start the 
> movie on your iPhone and it will display on the Mac.  This is doable from 
> iPad as well.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> On Jan 5, 2020, at 08:31, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
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> Need to play some videos from my Iphone but need to listen from my Macbook 
> pro, and other people can see from the Mac screen itself, can we perform this?
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Re: Streeming Videos from Iphone to Mac, can we?

[Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر]

No, not using anything, jjust my Iphone


> On Jan 5, 2020, at 8:50 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> Are you using the TV app on the iPhone to play the videos, or are they 
> YouTube or some other movie streaming service?I can’t answer your question, 
> just trying to get more info incase someone else can answer it? 
> 
>> On 6/01/2020, at 04:31, ⁨Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر⁩ 
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>> Hi all:
>> Need to play some videos from my Iphone but need to listen from my Macbook 
>> pro, and other people can see from the Mac screen itself, can we perform 
>> this?
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Re: It appears that The Vario Ultra Braille Display is back

[Marc Sutton]

Hi Donna,
Slightly off list topic. Can you post the Vario Ultra mailing list subscription 
info to the list? Or send privately?
Thanks.
Marc


> On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:00 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just passing along a bit of info re the VU braille display, in case it is of 
> interest.
> 
> Yesterday the CEO of a company called InsideVision contacted the VarioUltra 
> list. He announced that he is the U.S. distributor for the VU and all 
> formerly Baum--now VisioBraille--products. He also announced that development 
> of the VU--and I think other braille products--has resumed.  His name is Igor 
> Feinberg, and  his contact info is:
> igor.feinb...@insidevision-us.com 
> 781-799-2971
> 
> For me, of course, this means that I'll be sticking with my VU. But thanks to 
> all of you for your feedback on the Focus and the Actilino. I'll keep all 
> that info in mind, should I need it in the future.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
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Re: 360 Mac Care?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Pramit,
Thanks for the clarification. :)
Won't go there on the next  Mac Pro.
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:48 AM, PRAMIT BHARGAVA wrote:

> Flash Player has become obsolete these days & you don't need it anymore as 
> Videos play automatically. All the Browsers are completely capable of 
> handling Flash files on their own. In case you are receiving any such pop ups 
> just cancel / ignore them. 
> 
> Pramit 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:14 AM CHUCK REICHEL 
>  wrote:
> Hi List,
> This app popped up on my mac book air after updating flash player under 
> Mojave.
> 360 Mac Care helps you Speed Up Your Mac and Make it Secure. It aims to 
> provide users a great experience for an Optimized Mac and optimal use of 
> resources.
> Heres one of the things it listed;
> 360 Mac Care has found junk and unwanted items on your mac that can be safely 
> deleted.
> 360 Mac Care"” is from this company • Wise Tech Labs Private Limited, All 
> rights reserved.
> Any body using this and is it safe and efficient?
> Thanks
> Chuck
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It appears that The Vario Ultra Braille Display is back

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

Just passing along a bit of info re the VU braille display, in case it is of 
interest.

Yesterday the CEO of a company called InsideVision contacted the VarioUltra 
list. He announced that he is the U.S. distributor for the VU and all formerly 
Baum--now VisioBraille--products. He also announced that development of the 
VU--and I think other braille products--has resumed.  His name is Igor 
Feinberg, and  his contact info is:
igor.feinb...@insidevision-us.com 
781-799-2971

For me, of course, this means that I'll be sticking with my VU. But thanks to 
all of you for your feedback on the Focus and the Actilino. I'll keep all that 
info in mind, should I need it in the future.
Cheers,
Donna

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