RE: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi yes approximately 2000 after shocks thus far,
 A couple on Tuesday afternoon local nz time that were up in the 5 range,

 
Yes lots of people went to work but of course that depended on your location,  
a lot of damage in the closer towns / cities but Wellington city has a good 
couple of blocks shut off due to damage done to buildings.

 At least one of those to come down if it doesn't fall down first in an after 
shock.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2016 4:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

I am very very thankful indeed that all of you are well.I did smile 
when David wrote of going to work a few hours afterward.  I have not checked 
yet, but is there any talk  of aftershocks along with the tsunami?
Kare


On Mon, 14 Nov 2016, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> Thanks for the thoughts girls and guys,
>
> We all appreciate it.
>
> Scot as for being from Davids neck of the woods, actually we're at different 
> ends of the country,
>
> I'm in Dunedin, which is approx. 6 hours by road from twhere the eppi center 
> would have been, david from memory is in Auckland which is approx. probably 
> close to 1200 if not more kilometres north of where the quake was,
>
> Unlike david, I slept all night  and didn't feel a thing,  I know David is an 
> import to NZ but it would appear Auckland is rubbing off on him because he 
> woke to the quake  soft like auklanders are! However he's alright and will 
> catch up on his sleep tonight.
>
>
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RE: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Donna,
 Very safe in my case, sitting on the reclining chair with feet up watching 
news on tv.

 Thinking of food,

 Where as 500 to 600 Km north of me are a couple of thousand people struggling 
to sleep or eat due to the damages from the quake.

 Then in the capital city wellington the worse damaged major city  we've got 
city streets and buildings being closed off due to damage from the quake,

 One such building is seemingly on  a lean and they have advised today that it 
will be demoed  

But good work being done by all parties to get people to safety and the major 
damaged areas cleaned up.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2016 2:23 AM
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Subject: Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

Simon,

Not Scott, but thanks for filling us in.  Glad to know that you are OK.
Stay safe,
Donna


> On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> The quake was centred approx. 2 hours drive north of Christchurch  
> largest city in south island,  Approx. 15 Km deep  and yes 7.5 was the 
> reported strength, however the big one doubled up with a slightly less 
> powerfull quake within minutes of each other, causing approx. 2 minutes of 
> rocking and rolling.
> 
> The eppi centre was in a very ruggid coastline / mountainous area of 
> the south island coast  cutting off road and rail lines north of 
> Christchurch,
> 
> The quake was felt pretty much the length of the country  I've heard of 
> people in Invercargill southern most city in NZ to  Auckland at the north end 
> having felt it but I know people in Dunedin did feel it.
> Dunedin is aprox 400Km south of christchurch, Where I live, ( i sleep pretty 
> soundly!
> 
> 
> there were tidal wave warnings the length of the nz  east coast, noticible  
> tidal movements after the quake off the southern wellington coastline  and 
> damage to city with broken glass from high rise buildings etc.
> 
> Most people kept out of CBD of wellington city wellington is our 
> capital and ssitsat the bottom end of our North island,
> 
> current count is two lives lost to the quake although one of those also 
> medical issue related, the other pretty much the house fell on him during the 
> night, mans 100 year old mother was escorted from the devistation   
> I believe curretnly the after shock count is up over 450 including 
> some larger after shocks of around the 6 mark on the scale,
> 
> the majority thus far of damage is from reports is roading and rail 
> inferstructure  bridges landslides including  tunnels being blocked 
> along the kaikoura coast which is pretty much the eppi centre.other 
> than that NZ takes another one on the chin,
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 3:53 AM
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> Subject: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list
> 
> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the quake.  
> Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  I’ve 
> experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine something 
> 100 times stronger.  Hope you’re all well and safe.
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RE: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi scott and all,

 As of today the earthquake has been increased in strength to a 7.8 from the 
original 7.5.

Currently  trapped tourists are being moved out of Kaikoura by either Helo and 
as of this afternoon the NZ navy  HMNZ Canterbury 
There is a US naval cruiser and a Canadian frigget and an Austrailian navel 
vessel  all meant to be turning up this evening to help ship trapped people 
out, 

this area of NZ   is very popular for tourists as it's got a lot of whale and 
seal marine life tourism  
people pay to go out in boats to watch whales playing around in the surf.

 Road access has just been opened to the area of concern late this afternoon, 
one lane opened through a 50 Km area that was blocked by slips

Otherwise only access by sea or air,


 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 11:54 PM
To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

Well I lived in the San Francisco Bay area for a while where we had these, not 
a 7.4 though.  THat’s a real ride.  Hope you’re all set where you are.

> On Nov 14, 2016, at 3:34 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> The quake was centred approx. 2 hours drive north of Christchurch  
> largest city in south island,  Approx. 15 Km deep  and yes 7.5 was the 
> reported strength, however the big one doubled up with a slightly less 
> powerfull quake within minutes of each other, causing approx. 2 minutes of 
> rocking and rolling.
> 
> The eppi centre was in a very ruggid coastline / mountainous area of 
> the south island coast  cutting off road and rail lines north of 
> Christchurch,
> 
> The quake was felt pretty much the length of the country  I've heard of 
> people in Invercargill southern most city in NZ to  Auckland at the north end 
> having felt it but I know people in Dunedin did feel it.
> Dunedin is aprox 400Km south of christchurch, Where I live, ( i sleep pretty 
> soundly!
> 
> 
> there were tidal wave warnings the length of the nz  east coast, noticible  
> tidal movements after the quake off the southern wellington coastline  and 
> damage to city with broken glass from high rise buildings etc.
> 
> Most people kept out of CBD of wellington city wellington is our 
> capital and ssitsat the bottom end of our North island,
> 
> current count is two lives lost to the quake although one of those also 
> medical issue related, the other pretty much the house fell on him during the 
> night, mans 100 year old mother was escorted from the devistation   
> I believe curretnly the after shock count is up over 450 including 
> some larger after shocks of around the 6 mark on the scale,
> 
> the majority thus far of damage is from reports is roading and rail 
> inferstructure  bridges landslides including  tunnels being blocked 
> along the kaikoura coast which is pretty much the eppi centre.other 
> than that NZ takes another one on the chin,
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 3:53 AM
> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list
> 
> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the quake.  
> Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  I’ve 
> experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine something 
> 100 times stronger.  Hope you’re all well and safe.
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Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Joseph Hudson]

I'm sure he's well, as he is supposed to be in Tennessee this week America I 
guess promoting his radio show.
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> On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:48 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna and all, David felt this and I believe he's in Auckland approx. 
> 100Km plus or minus a couple north of the quake,
> 
> Jonathan Mosen lives in wellington, I assume he and his family are well, a 
> lot of wellington was evacuated due to 
> tsunami warnings, 
> 
> Hopefully no one was stupid enough to go out for a surf in the middle of the 
> night although I know some surfers who would if they were given a chance.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 6:38 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list
> 
> Glad you're OK, David.  Hope others are as well.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:45 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> The quake struck just after midnight local time. It woke me up. The news is 
>> reporting some possible structural damage in central city Wellington. 
>> Apparently the entire country felt the shake. There is a tsunami warning in 
>> effect. I have been woken up by a few aftershocks: I am going back to sleep 
>> for another couple hours before I need to get up for work.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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>>> 
>>> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the 
>>> quake.  Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  
>>> I’ve experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine 
>>> something 100 times stronger.  Hope you’re all well and safe.
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Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I thought about you all today and hoped you would be OK.  I hate that disabled 
people are having to cope with disasters especially if they are alone.  I 
remember waking up to a earth tremour here in the UK and I was frightened 
especially as I was alone with my dog which is still the case now.  I'd rather 
die with people around me rather than being alone.
> On 14 Nov 2016, at 17:02, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> We have been getting fairly regular aftershocks.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 15/11/2016, at 04:34, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> I am very very thankful indeed that all of you are well.I did smile when 
>> David wrote of going to work a few hours afterward.  I have not checked yet, 
>> but is there any talk  of aftershocks along with the tsunami?
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, 14 Nov 2016, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the thoughts girls and guys,
>>> 
>>> We all appreciate it.
>>> 
>>> Scot as for being from Davids neck of the woods, actually we're at 
>>> different ends of the country,
>>> 
>>> I'm in Dunedin, which is approx. 6 hours by road from twhere the eppi 
>>> center would have been, david from memory is in Auckland which is approx. 
>>> probably close to 1200 if not more kilometres north of where the quake was,
>>> 
>>> Unlike david, I slept all night  and didn't feel a thing,  I know David is 
>>> an import to NZ but it would appear Auckland is rubbing off on him because 
>>> he woke to the quake  soft like auklanders are! However he's alright and 
>>> will catch up on his sleep tonight.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[David Chittenden]

We have been getting fairly regular aftershocks.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 15/11/2016, at 04:34, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> I am very very thankful indeed that all of you are well.I did smile when 
> David wrote of going to work a few hours afterward.  I have not checked yet, 
> but is there any talk  of aftershocks along with the tsunami?
> Kare
> 
> 
>> On Mon, 14 Nov 2016, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the thoughts girls and guys,
>> 
>> We all appreciate it.
>> 
>> Scot as for being from Davids neck of the woods, actually we're at different 
>> ends of the country,
>> 
>> I'm in Dunedin, which is approx. 6 hours by road from twhere the eppi center 
>> would have been, david from memory is in Auckland which is approx. probably 
>> close to 1200 if not more kilometres north of where the quake was,
>> 
>> Unlike david, I slept all night  and didn't feel a thing,  I know David is 
>> an import to NZ but it would appear Auckland is rubbing off on him because 
>> he woke to the quake  soft like auklanders are! However he's alright and 
>> will catch up on his sleep tonight.
>> 
>> 
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RE: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Karen Lewellen]

I am very very thankful indeed that all of you are well.I did smile 
when David wrote of going to work a few hours afterward.  I have not 
checked yet, but is there any talk  of aftershocks along with the tsunami?

Kare


On Mon, 14 Nov 2016, Simon Fogarty wrote:


Thanks for the thoughts girls and guys,

We all appreciate it.

Scot as for being from Davids neck of the woods, actually we're at different 
ends of the country,

I'm in Dunedin, which is approx. 6 hours by road from twhere the eppi center 
would have been, david from memory is in Auckland which is approx. probably 
close to 1200 if not more kilometres north of where the quake was,

Unlike david, I slept all night  and didn't feel a thing,  I know David is an 
import to NZ but it would appear Auckland is rubbing off on him because he woke 
to the quake  soft like auklanders are! However he's alright and will catch up 
on his sleep tonight.



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Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Donna Goodin]

Simon,

Not Scott, but thanks for filling us in.  Glad to know that you are OK.
Stay safe,
Donna


> On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> The quake was centred approx. 2 hours drive north of Christchurch  largest 
> city in south island,
>  Approx. 15 Km deep  and yes 7.5 was the reported strength, however the big 
> one doubled up with a slightly less powerfull quake within minutes of each 
> other, causing approx. 2 minutes of rocking and rolling.
> 
> The eppi centre was in a very ruggid coastline / mountainous area of the 
> south island coast  cutting off road and rail lines north of Christchurch, 
> 
> The quake was felt pretty much the length of the country  I've heard of 
> people in Invercargill southern most city in NZ to  Auckland at the north end 
> having felt it but I know people in Dunedin did feel it.
> Dunedin is aprox 400Km south of christchurch, Where I live, ( i sleep pretty 
> soundly!
> 
> 
> there were tidal wave warnings the length of the nz  east coast, noticible  
> tidal movements after the quake off the southern wellington coastline  and 
> damage to city with broken glass from high rise buildings etc.
> 
> Most people kept out of CBD of wellington city wellington is our capital and 
> ssitsat the bottom end of our North island,
> 
> current count is two lives lost to the quake although one of those also 
> medical issue related, the other pretty much the house fell on him during the 
> night, mans 100 year old mother was escorted from the devistation   
> I believe curretnly the after shock count is up over 450 including some 
> larger after shocks of around the 6 mark on the scale,
> 
> the majority thus far of damage is from reports is roading and rail 
> inferstructure  bridges landslides including  tunnels being blocked along the 
> kaikoura coast which is pretty much the eppi centre.other than that NZ takes 
> another one on the chin,
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 3:53 AM
> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list
> 
> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the quake.  
> Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  I’ve 
> experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine something 
> 100 times stronger.  Hope you’re all well and safe.
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Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Scott Granados]

Well I can definitely relate to that.  Notice I used to live in San 
Francisco.:)  Between the taxes and the cost of living the quakes were the 
final straw.  I don’t mind hurricanes or storms you get advanced warning.  
There isn’t a really valid advanced warning system for quakes yet although I 
know efforts are being made in that area and some claim animals run away just 
before a quake which I believe is possible.  My cat used to hate quakes but she 
seemed to only react during them and hide for a day or so until things calmed 
down.  I like being on solid east coast ground where we have quakes but all sub 
3.0 on the scale and the plates don’t stick here so we don’t have any of any 
size.

Good luck, we’re pulling for you.
 

> On Nov 14, 2016, at 4:17 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Nope, David is in Wellington. The quake reminded me of San Francisco.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14/11/2016, at 22:03, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Tim I think in most cases we're ok, Shaken in Davids case but not 
>> overly stirred.
>> 
>> Jonathan M is possibly the most likely effected from the NZ population on 
>> this list.
>> 
>> No word thus far from him however I believe he may be travelling currently
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>> Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 5:31 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I hope all is well for our New Zealand folk as well.  Simon, David and 
>> others who I apologize for not naming specifically.  I was travelling most 
>> of today and thus away from media, therefore missed the news until reading 
>> this thread this evening.  I certainly appreciated all the well wishes last 
>> May during our wildfires, and know how much all the thoughts and prayers 
>> from members of this list made me feel truly hopeful.  I sincerely hope for 
>> the best for you all in this time of tragedy.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 15:25, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Keep your head down David, I know how that feels.  I went through a 6.0 in 
>> the San Francisco bay area and it was very unsettling.:)  My cat hated it 
>> too.  I hope Simon is also safe I know he’s from your neck of the woods.
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 11:45 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> 
>>> The quake struck just after midnight local time. It woke me up. The news is 
>>> reporting some possible structural damage in central city Wellington. 
>>> Apparently the entire country felt the shake. There is a tsunami warning in 
>>> effect. I have been woken up by a few aftershocks: I am going back to sleep 
>>> for another couple hours before I need to get up for work.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 14/11/2016, at 03:53, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the 
>>>> quake.  Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake. 
>>>>  I’ve experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine 
>>>> something 100 times stronger.  Hope you’re all well and safe.
>>>> 
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Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Scott Granados]

Well I lived in the San Francisco Bay area for a while where we had these, not 
a 7.4 though.  THat’s a real ride.  Hope you’re all set where you are.

> On Nov 14, 2016, at 3:34 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> The quake was centred approx. 2 hours drive north of Christchurch  largest 
> city in south island,
>  Approx. 15 Km deep  and yes 7.5 was the reported strength, however the big 
> one doubled up with a slightly less powerfull quake within minutes of each 
> other, causing approx. 2 minutes of rocking and rolling.
> 
> The eppi centre was in a very ruggid coastline / mountainous area of the 
> south island coast  cutting off road and rail lines north of Christchurch, 
> 
> The quake was felt pretty much the length of the country  I've heard of 
> people in Invercargill southern most city in NZ to  Auckland at the north end 
> having felt it but I know people in Dunedin did feel it.
> Dunedin is aprox 400Km south of christchurch, Where I live, ( i sleep pretty 
> soundly!
> 
> 
> there were tidal wave warnings the length of the nz  east coast, noticible  
> tidal movements after the quake off the southern wellington coastline  and 
> damage to city with broken glass from high rise buildings etc.
> 
> Most people kept out of CBD of wellington city wellington is our capital and 
> ssitsat the bottom end of our North island,
> 
> current count is two lives lost to the quake although one of those also 
> medical issue related, the other pretty much the house fell on him during the 
> night, mans 100 year old mother was escorted from the devistation   
> I believe curretnly the after shock count is up over 450 including some 
> larger after shocks of around the 6 mark on the scale,
> 
> the majority thus far of damage is from reports is roading and rail 
> inferstructure  bridges landslides including  tunnels being blocked along the 
> kaikoura coast which is pretty much the eppi centre.other than that NZ takes 
> another one on the chin,
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 3:53 AM
> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list
> 
> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the quake.  
> Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  I’ve 
> experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine something 
> 100 times stronger.  Hope you’re all well and safe.
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Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[David Chittenden]

The building my flat is in was earthquake retrofitted a few years ago. A work 
colleague told me her building developed cracks in the walls.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 14/11/2016, at 22:06, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Dude,
> 
> I thought you were in Auckland,
> 
> Hell didn't know you in newtown, hell no wonder you felt it, 
> Apologies, here I thought you a dorklander!  Even more glad you doing ok   
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 9:52 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list
> 
> Actually, I am in Newtown, which is quite close to Wellington CBD.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14/11/2016, at 21:48, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna and all, David felt this and I believe he's in Auckland 
>> approx. 100Km plus or minus a couple north of the quake,
>> 
>> Jonathan Mosen lives in wellington, I assume he and his family are 
>> well, a lot of wellington was evacuated due to tsunami warnings,
>> 
>> Hopefully no one was stupid enough to go out for a surf in the middle of the 
>> night although I know some surfers who would if they were given a chance.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 6:38 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list
>> 
>> Glad you're OK, David.  Hope others are as well.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:45 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> 
>>> The quake struck just after midnight local time. It woke me up. The news is 
>>> reporting some possible structural damage in central city Wellington. 
>>> Apparently the entire country felt the shake. There is a tsunami warning in 
>>> effect. I have been woken up by a few aftershocks: I am going back to sleep 
>>> for another couple hours before I need to get up for work.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 14/11/2016, at 03:53, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the 
>>>> quake.  Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake. 
>>>>  I’ve experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine 
>>>> something 100 times stronger.  Hope you’re all well and safe.
>>>> 
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Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[David Chittenden]

Nope, David is in Wellington. The quake reminded me of San Francisco.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 14/11/2016, at 22:03, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Tim I think in most cases we're ok, Shaken in Davids case but not 
> overly stirred.
> 
> Jonathan M is possibly the most likely effected from the NZ population on 
> this list.
> 
> No word thus far from him however I believe he may be travelling currently
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 5:31 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I hope all is well for our New Zealand folk as well.  Simon, David and others 
> who I apologize for not naming specifically.  I was travelling most of today 
> and thus away from media, therefore missed the news until reading this thread 
> this evening.  I certainly appreciated all the well wishes last May during 
> our wildfires, and know how much all the thoughts and prayers from members of 
> this list made me feel truly hopeful.  I sincerely hope for the best for you 
> all in this time of tragedy.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 15:25, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Keep your head down David, I know how that feels.  I went through a 6.0 in 
> the San Francisco bay area and it was very unsettling.:)  My cat hated it 
> too.  I hope Simon is also safe I know he’s from your neck of the woods.
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 11:45 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> The quake struck just after midnight local time. It woke me up. The news is 
>> reporting some possible structural damage in central city Wellington. 
>> Apparently the entire country felt the shake. There is a tsunami warning in 
>> effect. I have been woken up by a few aftershocks: I am going back to sleep 
>> for another couple hours before I need to get up for work.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 14/11/2016, at 03:53, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the 
>>> quake.  Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  
>>> I’ve experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine 
>>> something 100 times stronger.  Hope you’re all well and safe.
>>> 
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RE: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Simon Fogarty]

Dude,

 I thought you were in Auckland,

 Hell didn't know you in newtown, hell no wonder you felt it, 
 Apologies, here I thought you a dorklander!  Even more glad you doing ok   



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 9:52 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

Actually, I am in Newtown, which is quite close to Wellington CBD.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 14/11/2016, at 21:48, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna and all, David felt this and I believe he's in Auckland 
> approx. 100Km plus or minus a couple north of the quake,
> 
> Jonathan Mosen lives in wellington, I assume he and his family are 
> well, a lot of wellington was evacuated due to tsunami warnings,
> 
> Hopefully no one was stupid enough to go out for a surf in the middle of the 
> night although I know some surfers who would if they were given a chance.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 6:38 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list
> 
> Glad you're OK, David.  Hope others are as well.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:45 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> The quake struck just after midnight local time. It woke me up. The news is 
>> reporting some possible structural damage in central city Wellington. 
>> Apparently the entire country felt the shake. There is a tsunami warning in 
>> effect. I have been woken up by a few aftershocks: I am going back to sleep 
>> for another couple hours before I need to get up for work.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 14/11/2016, at 03:53, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the 
>>> quake.  Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  
>>> I’ve experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine 
>>> something 100 times stronger.  Hope you’re all well and safe.
>>> 
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RE: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Simon Fogarty]

Thanks Tim I think in most cases we're ok, Shaken in Davids case but not overly 
stirred.

 Jonathan M is possibly the most likely effected from the NZ population on this 
list.

No word thus far from him however I believe he may be travelling currently

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Hi,

I hope all is well for our New Zealand folk as well.  Simon, David and others 
who I apologize for not naming specifically.  I was travelling most of today 
and thus away from media, therefore missed the news until reading this thread 
this evening.  I certainly appreciated all the well wishes last May during our 
wildfires, and know how much all the thoughts and prayers from members of this 
list made me feel truly hopeful.  I sincerely hope for the best for you all in 
this time of tragedy.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 13, 2016, at 15:25, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:

Keep your head down David, I know how that feels.  I went through a 6.0 in the 
San Francisco bay area and it was very unsettling.:)  My cat hated it too.  I 
hope Simon is also safe I know he’s from your neck of the woods.

> On Nov 13, 2016, at 11:45 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> The quake struck just after midnight local time. It woke me up. The news is 
> reporting some possible structural damage in central city Wellington. 
> Apparently the entire country felt the shake. There is a tsunami warning in 
> effect. I have been woken up by a few aftershocks: I am going back to sleep 
> for another couple hours before I need to get up for work.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14/11/2016, at 03:53, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the quake. 
>>  Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  I’ve 
>> experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine something 
>> 100 times stronger.  Hope you’re all well and safe.
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RE: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Simon Fogarty]

Thanks Tim I think in most cases we're ok, Shaken in Davids case but not overly 
stirred.

 Jonathan M is possibly the most likely effected from the NZ population on this 
list.

No word thus far from him however I believe he may be travelling currently

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Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 5:31 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

Hi,

I hope all is well for our New Zealand folk as well.  Simon, David and others 
who I apologize for not naming specifically.  I was travelling most of today 
and thus away from media, therefore missed the news until reading this thread 
this evening.  I certainly appreciated all the well wishes last May during our 
wildfires, and know how much all the thoughts and prayers from members of this 
list made me feel truly hopeful.  I sincerely hope for the best for you all in 
this time of tragedy.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 13, 2016, at 15:25, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:

Keep your head down David, I know how that feels.  I went through a 6.0 in the 
San Francisco bay area and it was very unsettling.:)  My cat hated it too.  I 
hope Simon is also safe I know he’s from your neck of the woods.

> On Nov 13, 2016, at 11:45 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> The quake struck just after midnight local time. It woke me up. The news is 
> reporting some possible structural damage in central city Wellington. 
> Apparently the entire country felt the shake. There is a tsunami warning in 
> effect. I have been woken up by a few aftershocks: I am going back to sleep 
> for another couple hours before I need to get up for work.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14/11/2016, at 03:53, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the quake. 
>>  Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  I’ve 
>> experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine something 
>> 100 times stronger.  Hope you’re all well and safe.
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RE: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Simon Fogarty]

 Thanks for the thoughts girls and guys,

 We all appreciate it.

 Scot as for being from Davids neck of the woods, actually we're at different 
ends of the country,

I'm in Dunedin, which is approx. 6 hours by road from twhere the eppi center 
would have been, david from memory is in Auckland which is approx. probably 
close to 1200 if not more kilometres north of where the quake was,

 Unlike david, I slept all night  and didn't feel a thing,  I know David is an 
import to NZ but it would appear Auckland is rubbing off on him because he woke 
to the quake  soft like auklanders are! However he's alright and will catch up 
on his sleep tonight.

  

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Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[David Chittenden]

Actually, I am in Newtown, which is quite close to Wellington CBD.

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> On 14/11/2016, at 21:48, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna and all, David felt this and I believe he's in Auckland approx. 
> 100Km plus or minus a couple north of the quake,
> 
> Jonathan Mosen lives in wellington, I assume he and his family are well, a 
> lot of wellington was evacuated due to 
> tsunami warnings, 
> 
> Hopefully no one was stupid enough to go out for a surf in the middle of the 
> night although I know some surfers who would if they were given a chance.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 6:38 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Glad you're OK, David.  Hope others are as well.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:45 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> The quake struck just after midnight local time. It woke me up. The news is 
>> reporting some possible structural damage in central city Wellington. 
>> Apparently the entire country felt the shake. There is a tsunami warning in 
>> effect. I have been woken up by a few aftershocks: I am going back to sleep 
>> for another couple hours before I need to get up for work.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 14/11/2016, at 03:53, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the 
>>> quake.  Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  
>>> I’ve experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine 
>>> something 100 times stronger.  Hope you’re all well and safe.
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RE: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Donna and all, David felt this and I believe he's in Auckland approx. 100Km 
plus or minus a couple north of the quake,

 Jonathan Mosen lives in wellington, I assume he and his family are well, a lot 
of wellington was evacuated due to 
tsunami warnings, 
 
Hopefully no one was stupid enough to go out for a surf in the middle of the 
night although I know some surfers who would if they were given a chance.


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Sent: Monday, 14 November 2016 6:38 AM
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Subject: Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

Glad you're OK, David.  Hope others are as well.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:45 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> The quake struck just after midnight local time. It woke me up. The news is 
> reporting some possible structural damage in central city Wellington. 
> Apparently the entire country felt the shake. There is a tsunami warning in 
> effect. I have been woken up by a few aftershocks: I am going back to sleep 
> for another couple hours before I need to get up for work.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14/11/2016, at 03:53, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the quake. 
>>  Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  I’ve 
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RE: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi David,

 Sorry to hear you had a bad night,
 From reports I've heard the main quake struck as David said after midnight 
local time, we have one time zone here.
   There were / have been up till now approx. 450 +/- after shocks I had heard 
something about there having been some smaller quakes north of wellington, 

 Not confirmed but it is a fault line area. Main damage as I stated previously 
is inferstructure within the northern Canterbury area mainly roads and rail 
systems   between Christchurch and northern parts of south island,  has cut off 
all raod and rail freight shipments  from north island to Christchurch by road 
/ rail, it's kind of difficult to explain the eppi centre area, but imagine the 
ruggidous coast line of rocks and mountains up to the water line then cut a 
road way out of the side of the mountain above the coastal shore,oh and for 
good measure put a few tunnels along the way for the rail lines and road to go 
through,  that's pretty much the landscape along the shore line in the area the 
quake struck.
 Wellington is a good 300 Km north of where the quake struck 



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RE: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Scott,

 The quake was centred approx. 2 hours drive north of Christchurch  largest 
city in south island,
  Approx. 15 Km deep  and yes 7.5 was the reported strength, however the big 
one doubled up with a slightly less powerfull quake within minutes of each 
other, causing approx. 2 minutes of rocking and rolling.

The eppi centre was in a very ruggid coastline / mountainous area of the south 
island coast  cutting off road and rail lines north of Christchurch, 

The quake was felt pretty much the length of the country  I've heard of people 
in Invercargill southern most city in NZ to  Auckland at the north end having 
felt it but I know people in Dunedin did feel it.
Dunedin is aprox 400Km south of christchurch, Where I live, ( i sleep pretty 
soundly!


 there were tidal wave warnings the length of the nz  east coast, noticible  
tidal movements after the quake off the southern wellington coastline  and 
damage to city with broken glass from high rise buildings etc.

 Most people kept out of CBD of wellington city wellington is our capital and 
ssitsat the bottom end of our North island,

 current count is two lives lost to the quake although one of those also 
medical issue related, the other pretty much the house fell on him during the 
night, mans 100 year old mother was escorted from the devistation   
I believe curretnly the after shock count is up over 450 including some larger 
after shocks of around the 6 mark on the scale,

 the majority thus far of damage is from reports is roading and rail 
inferstructure  bridges landslides including  tunnels being blocked along the 
kaikoura coast which is pretty much the eppi centre.other than that NZ takes 
another one on the chin,

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Subject: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the quake.  
Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  I’ve 
experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine something 
100 times stronger.  Hope you’re all well and safe.

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Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I hope all is well for our New Zealand folk as well.  Simon, David and others 
who I apologize for not naming specifically.  I was travelling most of today 
and thus away from media, therefore missed the news until reading this thread 
this evening.  I certainly appreciated all the well wishes last May during our 
wildfires, and know how much all the thoughts and prayers from members of this 
list made me feel truly hopeful.  I sincerely hope for the best for you all in 
this time of tragedy.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 13, 2016, at 15:25, Scott Granados  wrote:

Keep your head down David, I know how that feels.  I went through a 6.0 in the 
San Francisco bay area and it was very unsettling.:)  My cat hated it too.  I 
hope Simon is also safe I know he’s from your neck of the woods.

> On Nov 13, 2016, at 11:45 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> The quake struck just after midnight local time. It woke me up. The news is 
> reporting some possible structural damage in central city Wellington. 
> Apparently the entire country felt the shake. There is a tsunami warning in 
> effect. I have been woken up by a few aftershocks: I am going back to sleep 
> for another couple hours before I need to get up for work.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Scott Granados]

Keep your head down David, I know how that feels.  I went through a 6.0 in the 
San Francisco bay area and it was very unsettling.:)  My cat hated it too.  I 
hope Simon is also safe I know he’s from your neck of the woods.

> On Nov 13, 2016, at 11:45 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
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> Hi Scott,
> 
> The quake struck just after midnight local time. It woke me up. The news is 
> reporting some possible structural damage in central city Wellington. 
> Apparently the entire country felt the shake. There is a tsunami warning in 
> effect. I have been woken up by a few aftershocks: I am going back to sleep 
> for another couple hours before I need to get up for work.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14/11/2016, at 03:53, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the quake. 
>>  Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  I’ve 
>> experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine something 
>> 100 times stronger.  Hope you’re all well and safe.
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Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

Scott Granados  wrote:
> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the quake.
> Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  


Well said, and I fully support our subscribers from New Zealand at a difficult
time.

If the New Zealand government is equipped to deliver emergency messages via
mobile phones, then at least the information should be accessible with
VoiceOver on iOS devices. I'm from Australia, but I've been working in the
United States for a few years. The emergency messages delivered here are
signaled by loud alert sounds on the phone. I assume they're sent to every
mobile phone in a given area. VoiceOver can then read the content of the
message, as though it were an ordinary text message.

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Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Donna Goodin]

Glad you're OK, David.  Hope others are as well.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:45 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> The quake struck just after midnight local time. It woke me up. The news is 
> reporting some possible structural damage in central city Wellington. 
> Apparently the entire country felt the shake. There is a tsunami warning in 
> effect. I have been woken up by a few aftershocks: I am going back to sleep 
> for another couple hours before I need to get up for work.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14/11/2016, at 03:53, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the quake. 
>>  Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  I’ve 
>> experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine something 
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Re: I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[David Chittenden]

Hi Scott,

The quake struck just after midnight local time. It woke me up. The news is 
reporting some possible structural damage in central city Wellington. 
Apparently the entire country felt the shake. There is a tsunami warning in 
effect. I have been woken up by a few aftershocks: I am going back to sleep for 
another couple hours before I need to get up for work.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 14/11/2016, at 03:53, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  I’ve 
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I know we have several people from New Zealand on list

[Scott Granados]

Our news is reporting a 7.4 Earthquake and tsunami resulting from the quake.  
Hopefully everyone is ok and unaffected.  That’s a very big quake.  I’ve 
experienced a 6 and that’s enough for my lifetime, I can’t imagine something 
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Re: New to the list

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Welcome to the list Michelle!
I am still learning and learning on computers is an on-going adventure.
Vaughn

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> Michelle Stevens here,
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Re: New to the list

[Sharon Hooley]

Hi!

I am also new to this list. I recently got my very first Mac, Book Ere, last 
week, and I want to learn how to use it, along with Windows 10.

Thank you for creating this list,


Sharon H.

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>> Michelle Stevens here,
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>> get started and away I went.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ok I have had a hell of a learning curb and am still learning.
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[Michelle's Home emails]

Hi there,

 

Michelle Stevens here,

 

I am a new Mac Book Air user.  I have had my Mac  for 6 months and love it.
One of the things I love about Apple is that because I am Blind I use
VoiceOver and a Braille display connected to my mac. It is very friendly
with adapted technology.  I unpacked it turned it on, a friend helped me to
get started and away I went.   

 

Ok I have had a hell of a learning curb and am still learning.  

 

I look forward learning from you all.

 

Kind regards

Michelle Stevens

 

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Re: new to the list

[matthew dyer]

Hi there.

Welcome to the mac.  I think you can  there might be some info on applevis.com. 
 HTH.

Matthew


 On Jul 6, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Donald Goosens donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net 
 wrote:
 
 Î My name is Donald and I am new to the list.  I bought a used 
 MackBook a couple of years ago and have read some books from BookShare.  I 
 have a wireless keyboard that I assume came with the computer. It has no 
 numpad.  It does have command, option, control and function key.  Where can I 
 find a list of key commands that will help me with this keyboard?  Also, Can 
 a totally blind person effectively use the drag and drop feature with 
 VoiceOver?  I know I have so many questions and I want to thank all of you in 
 advance for your help
 
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Re: new to the list

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

yes, we use the term vo command by pressing control and option at the same time.
By getting the command help for voice over, press VO h or in other words, 
control option h.

 On 07 Jul 2015, at 3:55 am, Donald Goosens donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net 
 wrote:
 
 Î My name is Donald and I am new to the list.  I bought a used 
 MackBook a couple of years ago and have read some books from BookShare.  I 
 have a wireless keyboard that I assume came with the computer. It has no 
 numpad.  It does have command, option, control and function key.  Where can I 
 find a list of key commands that will help me with this keyboard?  Also, Can 
 a totally blind person effectively use the drag and drop feature with 
 VoiceOver?  I know I have so many questions and I want to thank all of you in 
 advance for your help
 
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new to the list

[Donald Goosens]

Î   My name is Donald and I am new to the list.  I bought a used 
MackBook a couple of years ago and have read some books from BookShare.  I have 
a wireless keyboard that I assume came with the computer. It has no numpad.  It 
does have command, option, control and function key.  Where can I find a list 
of key commands that will help me with this keyboard?  Also, Can a totally 
blind person effectively use the drag and drop feature with VoiceOver?  I know 
I have so many questions and I want to thank all of you in advance for your help

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Re: new to the list

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

1.  Navigate to  the item you wish to drag.

2.  Route your mouse pointer to the Voiceover cursor with vo+Command+F5.

3.  Press vo+command+shift+spacebar to begin the drag drop process.

4.  Navigate to the item where you want to drop the item you're dragging.

5.  Route your mouse once again with vo+Command+F5.

6.  Drop the item, thereby finnishing the process by pressing 
vo+command+shift+spacebar once again.



Note that perhaps an easier way is to:

1.  Locate the first item which you want to drag and drop.

2.  Press vo+Comma.

3.  Locate where you wish to drop the item.

4.  Press vo+period.

I've found this method not to be nearly as reliable though.

Chris.

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From: Donald Goosens donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 9:55 PM
Subject: new to the list


Î My name is Donald and I am new to the list.  I bought a used MackBook a 
couple of years ago and have read some books from BookShare.  I have a 
wireless keyboard that I assume came with the computer. It has no numpad. 
It does have command, option, control and function key.  Where can I find a 
list of key commands that will help me with this keyboard?  Also, Can a 
totally blind person effectively use the drag and drop feature with 
VoiceOver?  I know I have so many questions and I want to thank all of you 
in advance for your help


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Re: New to the List

[Erik Heil]

Hi
F first of all, I want to thank all of you for your excellent responses.
Well, I will certainly try the applications that were suggested. STD
before, recording isn't really an issue right now, but maybe in the future.
As for as an accessible MUD client, we can wait on that, as its not really
a priority at the moment.  Telnet works just fine, provided I use visually
impaired mode,where supported.  I plan to write the friendly workers at
accessibil...@apple.com in order to try and get a usable solution to the
terminal-based issues.  Note that I come from a UNIX and Linux background,
so I'm am of course comfortable with various shells, as well as writing
shell scripts.  I see that Voiceover has the ability to be controlled via
Apple Script, which is promising.  However, in order to get cursor tracking
working, and a much better user experience within Terminal, its going to
take more than Apple Scripts. Anyways, as I said before, this is an
excellent discussion, so it's go for it.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

 Ok but all I see is a 32 KB MP3 and a 32 KB flash thing. No download this
 stream. Do you need a Tunein Account to download streams?

 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com
 wrote:

 Every TuneIn stream link does that I've seen. once that opens, command L,
 command a and then command C, and then import into radium.

 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:55, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

 What if it doesn't have a download this stream link? I guess I can't
 listen to it outside Safari.

 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com
 wrote:

 Hi,
 You have to hit the Download the stream to listen link on the TuneIn
 page.
 Then copy that link into radium.
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:39, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hi Matt. I did the steps listed below. I copied this URL into Radium and
 when I press save nothing happens. When I press VO+Space, nothing happens.
 When I press enter I get the bonk sound. Am I doing something wrong here?
 The link is http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/
 Copy this into your Radium and see what happens.

 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com
 wrote:

 Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
 If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
 Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
 Copy the URL.
 Now, open radium.
 Find the More options menu button, and press spacebar.
 Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
 The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name and
 short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the station
 to your favourites.
 Hth.

 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to do.

 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com
 wrote:

 Hi Eric,
 Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you
 know what you're looking for.
 You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into
 Radium and mark as a favourite.

 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those
 applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there
 was something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it
 all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com
 wrote:

 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app 

New to the List

[Erik Heil]

Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning 
curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which 
probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.

1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  Cursor 
tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.

2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 

Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
questions. 

Erik

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Re: New to the List

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hi Eric,
Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you know 
what you're looking for.
You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into 
Radium and mark as a favourite.

God bless. :)
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
work email:
matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
Personal email:
matt.dierck...@me.com

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
 applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there 
 was something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it all 
 as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and 
 not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, but 
 Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot of 
 internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
 version of their website.
 I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
 and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning 
 curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which 
 probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
 
 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
 Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
 messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
 just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
 being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
 this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
 users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
 applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
 with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  Cursor 
 tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
 
 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
 client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
 
 Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
 document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
 questions. 
 
 Erik
 
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Re: New to the List

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to do.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you 
 know what you're looking for.
 You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into 
 Radium and mark as a favourite.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
 applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there 
 was something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it 
 all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and 
 not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, 
 but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot 
 of internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
 version of their website.
 I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
 and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning 
 curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which 
 probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
 
 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
 Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
 messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
 just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
 being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
 this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
 users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
 applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
 with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  
 Cursor tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of 
 issues.
 
 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably 
 a client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
 
 Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
 document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
 questions. 
 
 Erik
 
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[Grant Hardy]

The Radio Recorder app is also very similar to TuneIn or Ootunes on iOS 
devices. It can even record automatically in case you hear something and 
realize you want to listen to it again. I’ve no idea which app offers the more 
comprehensive directory as I’ve never tried Radium, but that shouldn’t be an 
issue since you can always add URLs manually. Having that recording 
functionality might be good for later use if you’re going to buy an app.

Grant

On Jan 22, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there was 
something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it all as 
iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:

 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and not 
 only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, but 
 Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot of 
 internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
 version of their website.
 I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
 and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning curve 
 is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which probably 
 aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
 
 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
 Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
 messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
 just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
 being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
 this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
 users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
 applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
 with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  Cursor 
 tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
 
 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
 client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
 
 Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
 document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
 questions. 
 
 Erik
 
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Re: New to the List

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hi,
You have to hit the Download the stream to listen link on the TuneIn page.
Then copy that link into radium.
God bless. :)
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
work email:
matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
Personal email:
matt.dierck...@me.com

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:39, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Matt. I did the steps listed below. I copied this URL into Radium and when 
 I press save nothing happens. When I press VO+Space, nothing happens. When I 
 press enter I get the bonk sound. Am I doing something wrong here? The link 
 is http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/ 
 http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/
 Copy this into your Radium and see what happens.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
 If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
 Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
 Copy the URL.
 Now, open radium.
 Find the More options menu button, and press spacebar.
 Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
 The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name and 
 short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the station 
 to your favourites.
 Hth.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to do.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you 
 know what you're looking for.
 You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into 
 Radium and mark as a favourite.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
 applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish 
 there was something similar to the tune in app that is available for 
 android it all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware 
 of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, 
 and not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and 
 Canada, but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also 
 had a lot of internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 
 5 version of their website.
 I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 
 model, and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the 
 learning curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few 
 questions, which probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
 
 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I 
 have Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads 
 the messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of 
 speech, or just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new 
 text that is being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are 
 not high-traffic, this isn't a problem.  However, 

Re: New to the List

[Shawn Krasniuk]

What if it doesn't have a download this stream link? I guess I can't listen to 
it outside Safari.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 You have to hit the Download the stream to listen link on the TuneIn page.
 Then copy that link into radium.
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:39, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Matt. I did the steps listed below. I copied this URL into Radium and 
 when I press save nothing happens. When I press VO+Space, nothing happens. 
 When I press enter I get the bonk sound. Am I doing something wrong here? 
 The link is http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/ 
 http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/
 Copy this into your Radium and see what happens.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
 If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
 Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
 Copy the URL.
 Now, open radium.
 Find the More options menu button, and press spacebar.
 Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
 The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name and 
 short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the station 
 to your favourites.
 Hth.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to do.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you 
 know what you're looking for.
 You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into 
 Radium and mark as a favourite.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
 applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish 
 there was something similar to the tune in app that is available for 
 android it all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware 
 of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, 
 and not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and 
 Canada, but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It 
 also had a lot of internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special 
 HTML 5 version of their website.
 I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 
 model, and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the 
 learning curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few 
 questions, which probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
 
 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC 

Re: New to the List

[Matthew Dierckens]

Every TuneIn stream link does that I've seen. once that opens, command L, 
command a and then command C, and then import into radium.

God bless. :)
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
work email:
matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
Personal email:
matt.dierck...@me.com

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:55, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 What if it doesn't have a download this stream link? I guess I can't listen 
 to it outside Safari.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 You have to hit the Download the stream to listen link on the TuneIn page.
 Then copy that link into radium.
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:39, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Matt. I did the steps listed below. I copied this URL into Radium and 
 when I press save nothing happens. When I press VO+Space, nothing happens. 
 When I press enter I get the bonk sound. Am I doing something wrong here? 
 The link is http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/ 
 http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/
 Copy this into your Radium and see what happens.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
 If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
 Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
 Copy the URL.
 Now, open radium.
 Find the More options menu button, and press spacebar.
 Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
 The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name and 
 short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the station 
 to your favourites.
 Hth.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to 
 do.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if 
 you know what you're looking for.
 You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website 
 into Radium and mark as a favourite.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try 
 those applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I 
 wish there was something similar to the tune in app that is available 
 for android it all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not 
 aware of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, 
 and not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and 
 Canada, but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It 
 also had a lot of internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special 
 HTML 5 version of their website.
 I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
 

Re: New to the List

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Ok but all I see is a 32 KB MP3 and a 32 KB flash thing. No download this 
stream. Do you need a Tunein Account to download streams?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Every TuneIn stream link does that I've seen. once that opens, command L, 
 command a and then command C, and then import into radium.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:55, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 What if it doesn't have a download this stream link? I guess I can't listen 
 to it outside Safari.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 You have to hit the Download the stream to listen link on the TuneIn page.
 Then copy that link into radium.
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:39, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Matt. I did the steps listed below. I copied this URL into Radium and 
 when I press save nothing happens. When I press VO+Space, nothing happens. 
 When I press enter I get the bonk sound. Am I doing something wrong here? 
 The link is http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/ 
 http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/
 Copy this into your Radium and see what happens.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
 If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
 Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
 Copy the URL.
 Now, open radium.
 Find the More options menu button, and press spacebar.
 Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
 The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name 
 and short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the 
 station to your favourites.
 Hth.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to 
 do.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if 
 you know what you're looking for.
 You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website 
 into Radium and mark as a favourite.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try 
 those applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I 
 wish there was something similar to the tune in app that is available 
 for android it all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not 
 aware of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, 
 and not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and 
 Canada, but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It 
 also had a lot of internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube 

Re: New to the List

[Matthew Dierckens]

Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
Copy the URL.
Now, open radium.
Find the More options menu button, and press spacebar.
Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name and 
short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the station to 
your favourites.
Hth.

God bless. :)
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
work email:
matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
Personal email:
matt.dierck...@me.com

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to do.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you 
 know what you're looking for.
 You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into 
 Radium and mark as a favourite.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
 applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there 
 was something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it 
 all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and 
 not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, 
 but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot 
 of internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
 version of their website.
 I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
 and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning 
 curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which 
 probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
 
 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
 Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
 messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, 
 or just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that 
 is being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not 
 high-traffic, this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which 
 has a lot of users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would 
 use console applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are 
 major issues with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based 
 applications.  Cursor tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well 
 as a myriad of issues.
 
 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably 
 a client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
 
 Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
 document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
 questions. 
 
 Erik
 
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Re: New to the List

[Shawn Krasniuk]

If anyone has this app for the iPhone, can you do the same on the there and if 
so, how? If there is a way, I might get rid of Tunein Radio again.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
 If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
 Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
 Copy the URL.
 Now, open radium.
 Find the More options menu button, and press spacebar.
 Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
 The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name and 
 short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the station to 
 your favourites.
 Hth.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to do.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you 
 know what you're looking for.
 You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into 
 Radium and mark as a favourite.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
 applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there 
 was something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it 
 all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and 
 not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, 
 but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a 
 lot of internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 
 5 version of their website.
 I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 
 model, and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the 
 learning curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, 
 which probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
 
 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
 Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
 messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, 
 or just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text 
 that is being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not 
 high-traffic, this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel 
 which has a lot of users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I 
 would use console applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but 
 their are major issues with Voiceover reading incoming text in 
 console-based applications.  Cursor tracking using Voiceover seems 
 nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
 
 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? 
 Preferably a client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
 
 Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
 document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
 

Re: New to the List

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Matt. I did the steps listed below. I copied this URL into Radium and when I 
press save nothing happens. When I press VO+Space, nothing happens. When I 
press enter I get the bonk sound. Am I doing something wrong here? The link is 
http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/ 
http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/
Copy this into your Radium and see what happens.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
 If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
 Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
 Copy the URL.
 Now, open radium.
 Find the More options menu button, and press spacebar.
 Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
 The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name and 
 short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the station to 
 your favourites.
 Hth.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to do.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you 
 know what you're looking for.
 You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into 
 Radium and mark as a favourite.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
 applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there 
 was something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it 
 all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and 
 not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, 
 but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a 
 lot of internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 
 5 version of their website.
 I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 
 model, and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the 
 learning curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, 
 which probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
 
 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
 Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
 messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, 
 or just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text 
 that is being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not 
 high-traffic, this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel 
 which has a lot of users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I 
 would use console applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but 
 their are major issues with Voiceover reading incoming text in 
 console-based applications.  Cursor tracking using Voiceover seems 
 nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
 
 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? 
 Preferably a client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
 3. What do 

Re: New to the List

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hello.
I can only answer two of your questions.
A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and not 
only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, but Di.fm, 
RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot of internet 
radio stations.
Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
version of their website.
I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.

God bless. :)
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
work email:
matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
Personal email:
matt.dierck...@me.com

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, and 
 have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning curve is 
 not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which probably aren't 
 too difficult.  So, here goes.
 
 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
 Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
 messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
 just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
 being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
 this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
 users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
 applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
 with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  Cursor 
 tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
 
 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
 client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
 
 Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
 document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
 questions. 
 
 Erik
 
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Re: New to the List

[Grant Hardy]

Hi Erik, I can answer your last two questions. I Personally use the Radio 
Recorder app, as it can both listen to, and record directly from, internet 
radio stations. The interface leaves quite a lot to be desired, but if you add 
your most frequently listened to stations to a playlist (I’ve named mine 
“favghrites”) you should be good to go and become very efficient with the app. 
You should be able to figure out the interface with some trial and error, but 
I’m happy to offer some tips if needed as I know it’s not the most user 
friendly. Here’s the link: 
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/radio-recorder/id475736169?mt=12 
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/radio-recorder/id475736169?mt=12

If you just want to listen to internet streams, but not record them, then the 
Radium app is often recommended here: 
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/radium-perfect-internet-radio/id597611879?mt=12

As for Adobe Flash Player, I wouldn’t install it until you need  to. YouTube, 
SoundCloud, Netflix, and many other popular sites can play their content 
without flash, right out of the box.

Grant

On Jan 22, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, and 
have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning curve is not 
difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which probably aren't too 
difficult.  So, here goes.

1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have Adium 
installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the messages as 
they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or just to bypass 
all queued messages and start reading the new text that is being displayed in 
the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, this isn't a problem.  
However, if you have a channel which has a lot of users sending messages, this 
simply does not work.  I would use console applications such as epic or other 
IRC clients, but their are major issues with Voiceover reading incoming text in 
console-based applications.  Cursor tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, 
as well as a myriad of issues.

2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 

Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
document in return for your time spent researching and answering my questions. 

Erik

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Re: New to the List

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Yes, I like Radium too, although I wish since the Australian Open tennis 
tournament is now on that they have the radio station for it. For that I have 
to go to Tunein's website to listen to it. It would be nice if I could listen 
to it outside Safari if I wanted to listen to it on my Mac but oh well.
Also, it wouldn't hurt to install flash. I know for me that I like to go on 
websites that offer live TV streams for channels like ESPN 2 and such and I 
haven't found websites that stream in HTML 5. I would be up for any suggestions 
as to websites that offer streams in this format because I like being able to 
watch stuff on my TV using my Xbox 360 and it doesn't support flash. If this is 
getting off topic, then by all means, write me off list.
As for Adium, yes, I do notice that the built in speech can sometimes be 
annoying. To counter this, I use an app called Growl which has it's own options 
for speech. You can also silence it by pressing control if you have Voiceover 
on. It's $1.99 and works well with Yosemite.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and not 
 only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, but 
 Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot of 
 internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
 version of their website.
 I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
 and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning curve 
 is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which probably 
 aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
 
 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
 Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
 messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
 just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
 being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
 this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
 users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
 applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
 with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  Cursor 
 tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
 
 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
 client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
 
 Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
 document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
 questions. 
 
 Erik
 
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Re: New to the List

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hey Shaun.
You can import the URL into radio and add it as a favourite.

God bless. :)
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
work email:
matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
Personal email:
matt.dierck...@me.com

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 15:09, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Yes, I like Radium too, although I wish since the Australian Open tennis 
 tournament is now on that they have the radio station for it. For that I have 
 to go to Tunein's website to listen to it. It would be nice if I could listen 
 to it outside Safari if I wanted to listen to it on my Mac but oh well.
 Also, it wouldn't hurt to install flash. I know for me that I like to go on 
 websites that offer live TV streams for channels like ESPN 2 and such and I 
 haven't found websites that stream in HTML 5. I would be up for any 
 suggestions as to websites that offer streams in this format because I like 
 being able to watch stuff on my TV using my Xbox 360 and it doesn't support 
 flash. If this is getting off topic, then by all means, write me off list.
 As for Adium, yes, I do notice that the built in speech can sometimes be 
 annoying. To counter this, I use an app called Growl which has it's own 
 options for speech. You can also silence it by pressing control if you have 
 Voiceover on. It's $1.99 and works well with Yosemite.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com 
 mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and 
 not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, but 
 Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot of 
 internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
 version of their website.
 I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com mailto:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com 
 mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
 and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning 
 curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which 
 probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
 
 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
 Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
 messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
 just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
 being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
 this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
 users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
 applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
 with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  Cursor 
 tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
 
 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
 client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
 
 Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
 document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
 questions. 
 
 Erik
 
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Re: New to the List

[Erik Heil]

Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there was 
something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it all as 
iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and not 
 only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, but 
 Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot of 
 internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
 version of their website.
 I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
 and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning curve 
 is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which probably 
 aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
 
 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
 Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
 messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
 just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
 being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
 this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
 users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
 applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
 with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  Cursor 
 tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
 
 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
 client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
 
 Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
 document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
 questions. 
 
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new to the list

[Carlos Taylor]

Hi all.  My name is Carlos Taylor and I'm new to the list.  I thought
I would join the list to pick up any tips and tricks of VoiceOver and
the Mac.  However, I'm not entirely new to the Mac.  I'm composing
this message using a 2008 iMac at work.  In fact, I was in the
AppleSeed program beta testing os 10.4 tiger, so I got to see
VoiceOver in its infancy.  It has really grown and matured since then.
 I even purchased a Mac Mini, but it was soon made obsolete when Apple
switched to Intel processors.  I'm planning to purchase a new Mac Mini
later this year.  Until then, I'll keep using Macs at work whenever
possible.  I'm also waiting to receive a 13-inch MacBook air to
replace a 6-year-old Windows XP based laptop for work.  I oversee
technology for students and faculty with disabilities at a mid-sized
public university.  I work with faculty and students using both Macs
and PCs, so I am trying to keep myself up-to-date in the Apple world.
I have been a long-time user of Window-Eyes and more recently, NVDA.
I've been an iPhone user since the summer of 2009, when Apple first
included VoiceOver on the iOS platform.  Going back even further, one
of  the first computers I used as a child was an apple 2e at school.
At home, we first had a commodor 64 then later got an apple 2gs.  So
that's a little about me.  I look forward to learning what I can from
the list.

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Re: new to the list

[isaac]

Hi there welcome to the list we are glad that you have joined us and we will be 
happy to help you with any mac questions you may have.
isaac
isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Skype gold_wildcat 

On May 29, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Carlos Taylor cetayl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all.  My name is Carlos Taylor and I'm new to the list.  I thought
 I would join the list to pick up any tips and tricks of VoiceOver and
 the Mac.  However, I'm not entirely new to the Mac.  I'm composing
 this message using a 2008 iMac at work.  In fact, I was in the
 AppleSeed program beta testing os 10.4 tiger, so I got to see
 VoiceOver in its infancy.  It has really grown and matured since then.
 I even purchased a Mac Mini, but it was soon made obsolete when Apple
 switched to Intel processors.  I'm planning to purchase a new Mac Mini
 later this year.  Until then, I'll keep using Macs at work whenever
 possible.  I'm also waiting to receive a 13-inch MacBook air to
 replace a 6-year-old Windows XP based laptop for work.  I oversee
 technology for students and faculty with disabilities at a mid-sized
 public university.  I work with faculty and students using both Macs
 and PCs, so I am trying to keep myself up-to-date in the Apple world.
 I have been a long-time user of Window-Eyes and more recently, NVDA.
 I've been an iPhone user since the summer of 2009, when Apple first
 included VoiceOver on the iOS platform.  Going back even further, one
 of  the first computers I used as a child was an apple 2e at school.
 At home, we first had a commodor 64 then later got an apple 2gs.  So
 that's a little about me.  I look forward to learning what I can from
 the list.
 
 Carlos Taylor
 
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Re: new to the list

[Traci Duncan]

Welcome to the list.  :)

When you get your Mac Mini do you plan on having windows on it as well?  This 
is my eventual goal.  I've been a happy Mac user for nearly 3 years, but I 
don't want to completely forget my Windows knowhow.

Traci

On May 29, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Carlos Taylor cetayl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all.  My name is Carlos Taylor and I'm new to the list.  I thought
 I would join the list to pick up any tips and tricks of VoiceOver and
 the Mac.  However, I'm not entirely new to the Mac.  I'm composing
 this message using a 2008 iMac at work.  In fact, I was in the
 AppleSeed program beta testing os 10.4 tiger, so I got to see
 VoiceOver in its infancy.  It has really grown and matured since then.
 I even purchased a Mac Mini, but it was soon made obsolete when Apple
 switched to Intel processors.  I'm planning to purchase a new Mac Mini
 later this year.  Until then, I'll keep using Macs at work whenever
 possible.  I'm also waiting to receive a 13-inch MacBook air to
 replace a 6-year-old Windows XP based laptop for work.  I oversee
 technology for students and faculty with disabilities at a mid-sized
 public university.  I work with faculty and students using both Macs
 and PCs, so I am trying to keep myself up-to-date in the Apple world.
 I have been a long-time user of Window-Eyes and more recently, NVDA.
 I've been an iPhone user since the summer of 2009, when Apple first
 included VoiceOver on the iOS platform.  Going back even further, one
 of  the first computers I used as a child was an apple 2e at school.
 At home, we first had a commodor 64 then later got an apple 2gs.  So
 that's a little about me.  I look forward to learning what I can from
 the list.
 
 Carlos Taylor
 
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Re: new to the list

[Teresa Cochran]

Welcome to the list. I've found it quite helpful, and people on the list are 
generally very knowledgeable. I switched in 2010 and never looked back, except 
for the occasional use of my husband's Windows laptop, on which I installed 
nVDA.

It sounds like you have a lot to contribute to the list. Looking forward to 
hearing from you on various topics.

take care,
Teresa

We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan

On May 29, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Carlos Taylor cetayl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all.  My name is Carlos Taylor and I'm new to the list.  I thought
 I would join the list to pick up any tips and tricks of VoiceOver and
 the Mac.  However, I'm not entirely new to the Mac.  I'm composing
 this message using a 2008 iMac at work.  In fact, I was in the
 AppleSeed program beta testing os 10.4 tiger, so I got to see
 VoiceOver in its infancy.  It has really grown and matured since then.
 I even purchased a Mac Mini, but it was soon made obsolete when Apple
 switched to Intel processors.  I'm planning to purchase a new Mac Mini
 later this year.  Until then, I'll keep using Macs at work whenever
 possible.  I'm also waiting to receive a 13-inch MacBook air to
 replace a 6-year-old Windows XP based laptop for work.  I oversee
 technology for students and faculty with disabilities at a mid-sized
 public university.  I work with faculty and students using both Macs
 and PCs, so I am trying to keep myself up-to-date in the Apple world.
 I have been a long-time user of Window-Eyes and more recently, NVDA.
 I've been an iPhone user since the summer of 2009, when Apple first
 included VoiceOver on the iOS platform.  Going back even further, one
 of  the first computers I used as a child was an apple 2e at school.
 At home, we first had a commodor 64 then later got an apple 2gs.  So
 that's a little about me.  I look forward to learning what I can from
 the list.
 
 Carlos Taylor
 
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Re: New to the List

[Becky]

Hi Scott
I have had my Mack for a year and I love it.
There are no dum questions.
Becky Sabo

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 1, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Welcome,
I've had my Macbook Pro for 4 years now. It is very stable.
 On Apr 1, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Scott Duck scottduck1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 
 
 I just joined the list.  I do not have a Mac.  I have been a JAWS user for
 about 17 years.  I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS
 and Windows in general.  I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put
 down that kind of money, I want to find out a little more about what I would
 be getting into.  I am familiar with the IOS version of VoiceOver.  I have a
 iPhone, a iPad, and two Apple TVs.  I have been very impressed with the
 performance and stability of those devices and it is mostly this that has
 gotten me interested in the possibility of switching to the Mac.  As I do
 not have a Mac, I may ask some questions that seem rather obvious to all you
 Mac users but please bear with me.  I have a feeling that, eventually, I
 will be a Mac user too.
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Scott Duck
 
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New to the List

[Scott Duck]

Hi everyone,

 

I just joined the list.  I do not have a Mac.  I have been a JAWS user for
about 17 years.  I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS
and Windows in general.  I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put
down that kind of money, I want to find out a little more about what I would
be getting into.  I am familiar with the IOS version of VoiceOver.  I have a
iPhone, a iPad, and two Apple TVs.  I have been very impressed with the
performance and stability of those devices and it is mostly this that has
gotten me interested in the possibility of switching to the Mac.  As I do
not have a Mac, I may ask some questions that seem rather obvious to all you
Mac users but please bear with me.  I have a feeling that, eventually, I
will be a Mac user too.

 

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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Re: New to the List

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi Scott.
Don't worry about your questions. We've all been there and will be more than 
happy to answer them for you.

Matt Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670 ext. 4




On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Scott Duck scottduck1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,
  
 I just joined the list.  I do not have a Mac.  I have been a JAWS user for 
 about 17 years.  I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS and 
 Windows in general.  I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put down 
 that kind of money, I want to find out a little more about what I would be 
 getting into.  I am familiar with the IOS version of VoiceOver.  I have a 
 iPhone, a iPad, and two Apple TVs.  I have been very impressed with the 
 performance and stability of those devices and it is mostly this that has 
 gotten me interested in the possibility of switching to the Mac.  As I do not 
 have a Mac, I may ask some questions that seem rather obvious to all you Mac 
 users but please bear with me.  I have a feeling that, eventually, I will be 
 a Mac user too.
  
 Thanks,
 Scott Duck
 
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Re: New to the List

[Gabriele Battaglia]

Hi Scott and All.
I'm also new to the list, just joined it yesterday.
I've an iPhone 5, an iPad 3, a MacBookPro13 and the last creature came to my 
crew, an iMac27 that make me feel like the Captain Kirk aboard of the 
Enterprise starship, LOL.


Read you soon.
Greetings. Gabriel. 


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Re: New to the List

[Devin Prater]

Welcome, all new to the list. 

Sent from my iPod

 On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:00, Gabriele Battaglia gabriele.battag...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Scott and All.
 I'm also new to the list, just joined it yesterday.
 I've an iPhone 5, an iPad 3, a MacBookPro13 and the last creature came to my 
 crew, an iMac27 that make me feel like the Captain Kirk aboard of the 
 Enterprise starship, LOL.
 
 Read you soon.
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Re: New to the List

[Alex Hall]

Welcome, Scott. As others have said, no question is too basic - I asked some 
when I was starting out that seem painfully obvious now, but you have to learn 
somehow.

I'd also suggest that you visit www.applevis.com. There is a page just for Mac 
beginners you might find helpful, and the Applevis community is always willing 
to answer questions or create new content to help out.
On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Gabriele Battaglia gabriele.battag...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi Scott and All.
 I'm also new to the list, just joined it yesterday.
 I've an iPhone 5, an iPad 3, a MacBookPro13 and the last creature came to my 
 crew, an iMac27 that make me feel like the Captain Kirk aboard of the 
 Enterprise starship, LOL.
 
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Re: New to the List

[Chris Apple boy]

Welcome to the list! Maybe I should add that VoiceOver on the mac is as 
powerful as Jaws under Windows. Very customizable, very flexible, etc etc.


Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 01/04/2014 14:43, Scott Duck wrote:

Hi everyone,



I just joined the list.  I do not have a Mac.  I have been a JAWS user for
about 17 years.  I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS
and Windows in general.  I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put
down that kind of money, I want to find out a little more about what I would
be getting into.  I am familiar with the IOS version of VoiceOver.  I have a
iPhone, a iPad, and two Apple TVs.  I have been very impressed with the
performance and stability of those devices and it is mostly this that has
gotten me interested in the possibility of switching to the Mac.  As I do
not have a Mac, I may ask some questions that seem rather obvious to all you
Mac users but please bear with me.  I have a feeling that, eventually, I
will be a Mac user too.



Thanks,

Scott Duck



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Re: New to the List

[Kerri]

Hi, Scott:
First of all, this is a place wherein *all questions are welcome. I too 
started with iOS devices which made me want to switch tot he Mac, I was so 
green I couldn't even find the on off switch so please feel free to ask! We're 
all willing to assist in any way we can, before during and after the switch.

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On Apr 1, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Scott Duck scottduck1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,
  
 I just joined the list.  I do not have a Mac.  I have been a JAWS user for 
 about 17 years.  I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS and 
 Windows in general.  I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put down 
 that kind of money, I want to find out a little more about what I would be 
 getting into.  I am familiar with the IOS version of VoiceOver.  I have a 
 iPhone, a iPad, and two Apple TVs.  I have been very impressed with the 
 performance and stability of those devices and it is mostly this that has 
 gotten me interested in the possibility of switching to the Mac.  As I do not 
 have a Mac, I may ask some questions that seem rather obvious to all you Mac 
 users but please bear with me.  I have a feeling that, eventually, I will be 
 a Mac user too.
  
 Thanks,
 Scott Duck
 
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Re: New to the List

[CJ Daniel]

Hey Scott,

Welcome  don't feel alone.  The reasons you stated  the, basically, yearly 
upgrade fees for JAWS were what led me to switch to a mac several years ago.  
I'm on my second one now, as my first was a hand-me-down from my wife.  While 
nothing's perfect, it's, still, quite a thrill to walk into the Apple Store or 
Best Buy  start playing with the demo Macs, just like everyone else.  When 
you're ready to purchase, be sure to check out the refurbs that Apple offers.  
Also, you can occasionally find a great deal on an open-in-box @ Best Buy.  But 
again, welcome to the list.

CJ

On Apr 1, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Scott Duck scottduck1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,
  
 I just joined the list.  I do not have a Mac.  I have been a JAWS user for 
 about 17 years.  I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS and 
 Windows in general.  I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put down 
 that kind of money, I want to find out a little more about what I would be 
 getting into.  I am familiar with the IOS version of VoiceOver.  I have a 
 iPhone, a iPad, and two Apple TVs.  I have been very impressed with the 
 performance and stability of those devices and it is mostly this that has 
 gotten me interested in the possibility of switching to the Mac.  As I do not 
 have a Mac, I may ask some questions that seem rather obvious to all you Mac 
 users but please bear with me.  I have a feeling that, eventually, I will be 
 a Mac user too.
  
 Thanks,
 Scott Duck
 
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Re: New to the List

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Welcome,
I've had my Macbook Pro for 4 years now. It is very stable.
On Apr 1, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Scott Duck scottduck1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 
 
 I just joined the list.  I do not have a Mac.  I have been a JAWS user for
 about 17 years.  I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS
 and Windows in general.  I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put
 down that kind of money, I want to find out a little more about what I would
 be getting into.  I am familiar with the IOS version of VoiceOver.  I have a
 iPhone, a iPad, and two Apple TVs.  I have been very impressed with the
 performance and stability of those devices and it is mostly this that has
 gotten me interested in the possibility of switching to the Mac.  As I do
 not have a Mac, I may ask some questions that seem rather obvious to all you
 Mac users but please bear with me.  I have a feeling that, eventually, I
 will be a Mac user too.
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Scott Duck
 
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New to the list, with lots of questions

[Karen Poulakos]

Hi,

I'm currently using a Windows pc with the Window-eyes screen reader, and am 
considering switching to  Mac when purchasing my next computer.  I'm 
wondering how the Mac experience will differ from my experience with 
Window-eyes.


1.  Is there a braille transcription program available?  I currently use 
Duxbury, with a 15 year old Index Everest embosser.  I'm open to using a 
different braille transcription program, as long as the cost isn't 
prohibitive, but I'd like to be able to use my embosser.


2.  How about OCR?  I currently use Kurzweil 1000.

3.  Are there any music notation programs that will work on the Mac?  I 
currently have not found anything that will work with Window-eyes.  I would 
like to find software that will allow me to scan music on to the computer, 
and will either read or play the music.  It would also be  nice to be able 
to write music notation on the computer.


4.  How does the word processing experience differ from pc to Mac?  I'm not 
a high power user of word, but do use it for very basic documents.  Is there 
much difference in creating and editing documents on a Mac?


How about email?  I really don't like web based email.  I prefer to download 
my email to Outlook Express.  I like the Outlook Express layout, and the 
ease in creating folders and mail rules.  Can I download my email on the 
Mac?
I'll probably come up with lots more questions.  But, these are the ones 
I've been really wondering about for quite some time.


Thanks,

Karen P 


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Re: New to the list, with lots of questions

[Alex Hall]

See my responses below.
On Sep 2, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Karen Poulakos kpoula...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm currently using a Windows pc with the Window-eyes screen reader, and am 
 considering switching to  Mac when purchasing my next computer.  I'm 
 wondering how the Mac experience will differ from my experience with 
 Window-eyes.
It will be very, very different, so don't go into this thinking it's just a 
matter of learning a few new keystrokes. It's not better or worse overall, just 
way different.
 
 1.  Is there a braille transcription program available?  I currently use 
 Duxbury, with a 15 year old Index Everest embosser.  I'm open to using a 
 different braille transcription program, as long as the cost isn't 
 prohibitive, but I'd like to be able to use my embosser.
There is, but I have little experience with it and it is nothing like DBT. 
However, I've heard rumors that DBT will be released for Mac sometime in the 
future, so this question may be moot at some point.
 
 2.  How about OCR?  I currently use Kurzweil 1000.
There are several options, and everyone will tell you a different app or set of 
apps to use. The general consensus seems to be Abbyy Fine Reader, Docuscan 
Plus, or Prizmo as a somewhat distant third.
 
 3.  Are there any music notation programs that will work on the Mac?  I 
 currently have not found anything that will work with Window-eyes.  I would 
 like to find software that will allow me to scan music on to the computer, 
 and will either read or play the music.  It would also be  nice to be able to 
 write music notation on the computer.
I very much wish there were, but I have not found anything. Sorry.
 
 4.  How does the word processing experience differ from pc to Mac?  I'm not a 
 high power user of word, but do use it for very basic documents.  Is there 
 much difference in creating and editing documents on a Mac?
If it's only basic editing you need, then Text Edit, which is built into every 
Mac, will do fine. It supports saving files as .txt, .rtf, and .doc, and it can 
read .docx files. You can bold, underline, italicize, justify, center, change 
color, and even insert lists or images. The only porlbem is that Voiceover 
currently has trouble with tables in files, but we're all hoping that will be 
fixed in the next major OS10 update due out in a few weeks.
 
 How about email?  I really don't like web based email.  I prefer to download 
 my email to Outlook Express.  I like the Outlook Express layout, and the ease 
 in creating folders and mail rules.  Can I download my email on the Mac?
The Mc's Mail app is really nice and handles multiple email accounts in a great 
interface. Rules, folders and so on are all easily set up.

 I'll probably come up with lots more questions.  But, these are the ones I've 
 been really wondering about for quite some time.
Keep them coming. The more you can learn beforehand, the better you can prepare 
for the big change, or know that a Mac is not for you.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Karen P 
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Re: New to the list, with lots of questions

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there
As I said in a post I wrote one time on file management, that was my biggest 
problem is switching to the Mac. As an experienced computer user, it took me 
about two weeks to get used to the Mac. It's not that file management is hard, 
it's just enough different that I had a little trouble until I figure out how 
to handle it better. So when you get there, if you get there, let us know.

Of course, everybody handles things differently, but it might be better if you 
make your switch before your Windows computer is gone completely. This is 
because if you have any projects that you have to get done desperately like the 
next day, it will cut down on your stress level in the first two or three 
weeks. However, if you think that you will tend to gravitate to your Windows 
computer instead of learning, then this might not be a good thing.

I have avoided this like the plague, but it is possible to install windows on a 
Macintosh computer. Some people on this list have done this, and they may want 
to tell you if that's a good thing for you to do.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 See my responses below.
 On Sep 2, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Karen Poulakos kpoula...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm currently using a Windows pc with the Window-eyes screen reader, and am 
 considering switching to  Mac when purchasing my next computer.  I'm 
 wondering how the Mac experience will differ from my experience with 
 Window-eyes.
 It will be very, very different, so don't go into this thinking it's just a 
 matter of learning a few new keystrokes. It's not better or worse overall, 
 just way different.
 
 1.  Is there a braille transcription program available?  I currently use 
 Duxbury, with a 15 year old Index Everest embosser.  I'm open to using a 
 different braille transcription program, as long as the cost isn't 
 prohibitive, but I'd like to be able to use my embosser.
 There is, but I have little experience with it and it is nothing like DBT. 
 However, I've heard rumors that DBT will be released for Mac sometime in the 
 future, so this question may be moot at some point.
 
 2.  How about OCR?  I currently use Kurzweil 1000.
 There are several options, and everyone will tell you a different app or set 
 of apps to use. The general consensus seems to be Abbyy Fine Reader, Docuscan 
 Plus, or Prizmo as a somewhat distant third.
 
 3.  Are there any music notation programs that will work on the Mac?  I 
 currently have not found anything that will work with Window-eyes.  I would 
 like to find software that will allow me to scan music on to the computer, 
 and will either read or play the music.  It would also be  nice to be able 
 to write music notation on the computer.
 I very much wish there were, but I have not found anything. Sorry.
 
 4.  How does the word processing experience differ from pc to Mac?  I'm not 
 a high power user of word, but do use it for very basic documents.  Is there 
 much difference in creating and editing documents on a Mac?
 If it's only basic editing you need, then Text Edit, which is built into 
 every Mac, will do fine. It supports saving files as .txt, .rtf, and .doc, 
 and it can read .docx files. You can bold, underline, italicize, justify, 
 center, change color, and even insert lists or images. The only porlbem is 
 that Voiceover currently has trouble with tables in files, but we're all 
 hoping that will be fixed in the next major OS10 update due out in a few 
 weeks.
 
 How about email?  I really don't like web based email.  I prefer to download 
 my email to Outlook Express.  I like the Outlook Express layout, and the 
 ease in creating folders and mail rules.  Can I download my email on the Mac?
 The Mc's Mail app is really nice and handles multiple email accounts in a 
 great interface. Rules, folders and so on are all easily set up.
 
 I'll probably come up with lots more questions.  But, these are the ones 
 I've been really wondering about for quite some time.
 Keep them coming. The more you can learn beforehand, the better you can 
 prepare for the big change, or know that a Mac is not for you.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Karen P 
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Re: New to the list, with lots of questions

[Mary Otten]

The question to ask yourself is, why am I considering switching to a Mac?

Like you, I am a K1000 user and also a Window Eyes user.I'm not a power user of 
Word either, but I love the simplicity of printing directly to my Index 
embosser from within Word just by accessing the Duxbury item in Word's menu and 
embossing directly from there. No hassle. No 3 programs to switch among and 
mess with. As was mentioned, Duxbury is apparently working on a Mac version of 
their program. What will its capability and accessibility be, especially since 
Word on the Mac is inaccessible? Will it work with Text Edit or Pages? Nobody 
knows, but one thing we do know: it won't be free. And you already own the 
Windows version.

I don't know how many of the K1000 features you take advantage of. But I can 
say without doubt that there is no equivalent on the Mac side. There are 
solutions, and one or another might meet your needs, depending on what those 
are. But since you've already paid the money for K1000, what prompts you to 
want to switch? You could consider running Windows on a Mac, either via 
bootcamp, the solution I chose, or via VMWare Fusion. 

I bought my Mac 4 years ago with the hope that, by the time my Windows xp 
machine had to go, scanning and word processing and embossing would have 
matured to the level they are on Windows for blind users. Such is not the case, 
which is why I am sticking with Windows for some things. If you are not one of 
the I hate Microsoft ideologs, who want to use a Mac because they can and 
because they just plain don't like MS, then consider carefully before you 
decide to take on a whole new os with its attendant learning curve. 

If you're moving to a Mac because you will save money on screen readers, 
consider that the machine alone is liable to cost you more than a pc, and that 
you could put that savings towards the cost of keeping up your screen reader 
subscription, or you could try the NVDA screen reader, which is free and quite 
good for lots of things. I'm not saying Macs are bad. I'm not saying they're 
not a good solution for somebody who doesn't have an investment in Windows 
applications that are specialized, like K1000 and a screen reader. I'm just 
suggesting that you should analyze your needs and why you are considering the 
switch. I love the Apple mail program. I can't compare it with Outlook Express, 
because I never used that program. Good luck with the decision.\
\
Mary
Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com


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New Blind Photography list -was- Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind

[Cara Quinn]

Hi All,

For those interested on both lists, I've just started a Blind Photography group 
at:

http://groups.google.com/group/blindphotography

Membership is open right now so y'all can join but I'll be making the group 
invite-only very shortly so we head-off spammers before they start. :)

Please feel free to come on  in and continue this great discussion!

This group is not limited to use of cameras on Macs or iDevices, but is open to 
all discussion around photography and the blind / visually impaired…

Enjoy and see y'all there!

Cara :)
On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com wrote:

You know,  I find this topic very interesting and wish there were somewhere 
that those of us interested could talk more about it.  Any tips, thought and 
discussion would be neat.  I hate to even suggest this, but maybe a list for 
this subject would be quite popular.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

- Original Message - 
From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com
To: viph...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind


Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my 
heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not 
take attachments.

And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time 
it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can 
continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced 
us as photographers…

For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and 
after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend 
as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots 
and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone 
became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion 
to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving 
experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :)

So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a 
blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me 
that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and 
by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art 
we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience 
taking photos, perhaps for the first time…

Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind 
and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo 
class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I 
ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd 
take with the instructor / class.

I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of 
the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also 
class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an 
exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love 
to! :)

Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the 
iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these 
devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what 
improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the 
cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively?

Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for 
sharing!…

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get
putting the camera to your face.  With on screen images, even the sighted
don't need to do this any more.

Can I post a  picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a
reaction.  Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down
that low to take it or I might not have got up again.

Ta, R.
- Original Message - 
From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com
To: viph...@googlegroups.com
Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: OT: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind


Hi,

After reading some of the post here, i feel that perhaps, might help some of
you if i share my personal story a little.

early last year, one of the local art disability organization was having a
series of 6 workshops called short in the dark for vision impaired and
blind people on photographing. there're 12 participants that are blind and
vision impaired. We all got a loan digital camera, and learning the basic of
photographic, taking photos as a blind person. The workshop was conducted by
Mr. Andrew Follows, one of the blind photographer that base in Melbourne
Australia.

After the workshops, we then, have the task of taking photos for a special
exhibition, happen in 

Re: New Blind Photography list -was- Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind

[Joanne Chua]

Hi Cara and all

Wow, what an amezing discussion we have about IOS camera and blind photographe.

Thanks  Cara for creating the group. Just join. :)

I know there are some apps available to help a blind person navigating the 
digital camera or DSLR camera menu using voice over. One was been release 
sometime last year, however, needing to pull out as there are too many errors 
that needing to fix and keeping on trial.

I'll try to find some more information about it and post it to the viphone and 
also the blind photographer list later.

Great discussion from all. :)

Joanne Chua
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate.

On 06/06/2013, at 5:15, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 For those interested on both lists, I've just started a Blind Photography 
 group at:
 
 http://groups.google.com/group/blindphotography
 
 Membership is open right now so y'all can join but I'll be making the group 
 invite-only very shortly so we head-off spammers before they start. :)
 
 Please feel free to come on  in and continue this great discussion!
 
 This group is not limited to use of cameras on Macs or iDevices, but is open 
 to all discussion around photography and the blind / visually impaired…
 
 Enjoy and see y'all there!
 
 Cara :)
 On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You know,  I find this topic very interesting and wish there were somewhere 
 that those of us interested could talk more about it.  Any tips, thought and 
 discussion would be neat.  I hate to even suggest this, but maybe a list for 
 this subject would be quite popular.
 
 Kay Malmquist
 kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com
 To: viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM
 Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind
 
 
 Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my 
 heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not 
 take attachments.
 
 And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time 
 it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can 
 continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced 
 us as photographers…
 
 For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and 
 after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend 
 as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots 
 and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone 
 became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion 
 to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving 
 experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :)
 
 So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a 
 blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me 
 that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and 
 by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art 
 we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience 
 taking photos, perhaps for the first time…
 
 Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind 
 and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo 
 class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I 
 ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd 
 take with the instructor / class.
 
 I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of 
 the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also 
 class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an 
 exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love 
 to! :)
 
 Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the 
 iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these 
 devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what 
 improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the 
 cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively?
 
 Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for 
 sharing!…
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get
 putting the camera to your face.  With on screen images, even the sighted
 don't need to do this any more.
 
 Can I post a  picture to the list, took it yesterday, it is getting quite a
 reaction.  Anyone looking at the perspective is gonna know I never got down
 that low to take it or I might not have got up again.
 
 Ta, R.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com
 To: viph...@googlegroups.com
 Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: 

Re: New Blind Photography list -was- Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind

[Jessica Moss]

Can I get the url for the VIPhone list please?  I've just tried to join joining 
them and my status when I looked at the group via the web site said joined, 
but I don't get mail from them, so have no idea what's going on, so could use 
some help.
On Jun 5, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:

 Hi Cara and all
 
 Wow, what an amezing discussion we have about IOS camera and blind 
 photographe.
 
 Thanks  Cara for creating the group. Just join. :)
 
 I know there are some apps available to help a blind person navigating the 
 digital camera or DSLR camera menu using voice over. One was been release 
 sometime last year, however, needing to pull out as there are too many errors 
 that needing to fix and keeping on trial.
 
 I'll try to find some more information about it and post it to the viphone 
 and also the blind photographer list later.
 
 Great discussion from all. :)
 
 Joanne Chua
 Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate.
 
 On 06/06/2013, at 5:15, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 For those interested on both lists, I've just started a Blind Photography 
 group at:
 
 http://groups.google.com/group/blindphotography
 
 Membership is open right now so y'all can join but I'll be making the group 
 invite-only very shortly so we head-off spammers before they start. :)
 
 Please feel free to come on  in and continue this great discussion!
 
 This group is not limited to use of cameras on Macs or iDevices, but is open 
 to all discussion around photography and the blind / visually impaired…
 
 Enjoy and see y'all there!
 
 Cara :)
 On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You know,  I find this topic very interesting and wish there were somewhere 
 that those of us interested could talk more about it.  Any tips, thought and 
 discussion would be neat.  I hate to even suggest this, but maybe a list for 
 this subject would be quite popular.
 
 Kay Malmquist
 kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com
 To: viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 12:44 PM
 Subject: Re: personal photo experience was: Re: taking photos when blind
 
 
 Rob, while some may know that photography is one of the closest things to my 
 heart, having both shot and modeled for some time, alas, the list does not 
 take attachments.
 
 And, though I find this topic to be one of my absolute favorites every time 
 it comes up, we do need to focus a bit here on iDevices so perhaps we can 
 continue this with an emphasis on how iDevices with cameras have influenced 
 us as photographers…
 
 For myself, I've always loved shooting images both when I could see and 
 after that changed. Not only was the advent of digital photography a godsend 
 as I could have the complete abandon and confidence of getting great shots 
 and not needing to worry about running out of film, but when the iPhone 
 became accessible and Apple had the amazing quality of insight and inclusion 
 to make the camera app fully accessible, it was (and still is) a very moving 
 experience for me, for which I'm eternally grateful! :)
 
 So often, because people would assume the question, 'Why on earth would a 
 blind person want to use a camera?' it is still amazingly refreshing to me 
 that Apple completely flew in the face of this wrongly held assumption and 
 by doing so, made it possible for many more of us to either continue the art 
 we love or have the flexibility to become acquainted with a new experience 
 taking photos, perhaps for the first time…
 
 Though I'd already had quite a bit of experience composing shots both behind 
 and in front of the camera, I decided it would be fun to sit in on a photo 
 class that the Braille Institute offers, here in LA. I liked it so much I 
 ended up enrolling in it and used my iPhone constantly, sharing shots I'd 
 take with the instructor / class.
 
 I was like the only iPhone user in the class at the time and the quality of 
 the pics really did make an impression on the instructor… There were also 
 class projects similar to the one just discussed in this thread and also an 
 exhibition but I'll refrain from going OT here, no matter how much I'd love 
 to! :)
 
 Anyway, for those of you whom find that you really do benefit from the 
 iDevices as cameras, would you mind sharing your experiences and how these 
 devices help you? Conversely, for those whom may not feel this way, what 
 improvements could be made that you feel might help you be able to use the 
 cameras on iDevices more easily and creatively?
 
 Thanks a bunch y'all! Great topics and experiences! thanks so much for 
 sharing!…
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:54 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 I have to say, I like to try the odd angle, an angle you're never gonna get
 putting the camera to your face.  With on screen images, even the sighted
 don't need to do this any more.
 
 Can I post a  picture to the list, took it 

adding large amount of new contacts from list?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I just got an email with about 25 email addresses in it. I want to add them all 
to my contacts, under a single group so I can send mass emails to everyone on 
that list. Short of pasting each address into a new contact, then somehow 
managing to add that contact to a group, is there a way I can do this? Thanks.


Have a great day,
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Re: adding large amount of new contacts from list?

[Chris Bruinenberg]

Hi Alex. Are you thinkim like a distribution list?

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Re: adding large amount of new contacts from list?

[Alex Hall]

Yes, exactly. When I send to this group, the message should go to everyone. 
Ideally all addresses would be hidden from recipients, but that is not a 
priority.
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 Hi Alex. Are you thinkim like a distribution list?
 
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Looktel Money Reader 2.0 and new Looktel Mailing list and Blog

[Cara Quinn]

Hello All;

I wanted to share with you some news.

I'd firstly like to give VIPhone and MacVisionaries a heads-up and let y'all 
know that the Looktel Money Reader version 2.0 will be officially released in 
the App Store tomorrow, Sept. 27, 2011 (tonight in some areas).

Rather than just United States currencies, this version offers support for 
additional currencies such as the Euro, British Pound, and Canadian and 
Australian dollars. I'll also post the press release here as well, if someone 
doesn't beat me to it! :)

Okay, so now on to the other news. Looktel also now has a blog and mailing 
list. You can find the mailing list at:

http://groups.google.com/group/looktel

and you can find the blog at:

http://www.looktel.com/blog

Everyone is welcome and encouraged to join the list and / or blog if you're 
interested in Looktel news or products. Both the blog and mailing list are 
meant for open user discussion and feedback as well as just being a place for 
users in this community to connect with each other.

the blog will focus more on Looktel news / focused discussion and feedback 
while the mailing list is a more general community for people to chat and 
connect around our use of Looktel products.

Thanks so much for letting me share this with you and I look forward to seeing 
you all on the blog and email list!

I wish you all a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be!

Smiles,

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New to the list and have a few questions

[T wood]

Hey everyone,

My name is Tyler. Picked myself a macbook pro 15 core i7 about 6 months ago. 
Have had nothing but good luck with it, and now that I finally have gotten used 
to the thing I have a few questions.

1. How do you use dropbox? Or actually, how can't we use it? I thought there 
was a way around that with the window chooser, but am I wrong now? I have it 
set up on my virtual machine as of right now, though it keeps telling me it 
cannot access dropbox folder even though things are being uploaded and 
downloaded.

2. This is more my main question because I'm really not happy. I bought audio 
highjack pro, and was able to highjack system audio, which was really my goal 
all along - so I could broadcast said audio to skype. I installed soundflower, 
which is required to go along with it. I eventually bought it, and soon after 
that things went a bit haywire...

I updated it, (probably a bad mistake) and it told me to instal the extra 
instant on. Well ok, I figured this must be some new king of thing. Suddenly, 
highjack doesn't work. If I highjack system audio I get nothing, and the person 
I'm trying to demonstrate on skype isn't hearing a thing iether. Ok, fine. I 
tried highjacking just one application - vlc, to be exact - and I also got 
nothing. So ok. I downgraded to my previous version, and from then on have had 
nothing but problems with the thing. If I try and highjack system audio now, I 
lose all sounds including voiceover. If I navigate out of the window to see if 
it worked (I did this multiple times, ugh) and I couldn't get back to the 
highjack checkbox, all sounds were lost and when I hard booted the thing, I got 
nothing until I went to system preferences, interacted with the preferenace 
pain and hit so quick. Then hoped like heck I could find internal 
speakers/headphones. All of this done with no speech.

I tried uninstalling audio highjack pro and soundflower completely, going as 
far as removing them from .com.apple etc. So now I'm lost...what do I do from 
here? Can I access soundflower somehow, did I do something wrong? I just want 
this to be able to work, but I can't highjack anything, including other 
programs.

3. Ok, I saw some chat about this in the archives but I'm still unclear. How 
exactly do you use caffeine? I heard there were multiple ways to go about it, 
but I'm still unclear on how exactly this is accomplished. I got told I could 
use insomnia x by hitting vo m three times, using the trackpad to find the menu 
bar for it. That, however, failed. I couldn't find anything and still can't to 
this day when I open it. So this is getting rather annoying - all I want to do 
is close the lid of this thing when I'm chatting on skype so I don't bash it 
into something one of these days and scratch it's beautiful finish...

I would also like to take the time here to thank Rick Harmon and Mike Arrigo. 
They were the main reason I made the purchas and I don't regret it in the 
slightest, $2150 or not. Probably the most stable peace of technology I've ever 
owned, and my windows laptop and windows netbook have a lot of dust on them. 
Also, the battery life, for being a core i7, is finominal. I have a few other 
questions, but I think I've rambled on enough.

thanks in advance - by the way, am always up for a chat - my contact info is 
below.
skype: the_conman283
msn is the same - just with @hotmail.com at the end.
twitter: http://www.twitter.com/wolfman1360

- Tyler

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The new apple braille list

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi all braille users.

If you would like to join the new apple braille list  you will get the 
informations you need here:

* name of the group: apple braille
* The page for the group: 
http://groups.google.com/group/applebraille
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New To The List

[Daniel Rowe]

Hi all.

I'm sereously considering switching over to the mac and also will be 
getting an iPhone when it becomes available on my network.  I've been 
following Apple's progress with voice-over since the beta of Tiger.  
Apple are an amazing company for putting all this effort into making 
their products so accessible.  admittedly I believe the prices are a bit 
steep, but you certainly get what you pay for I think.

I'll be getting an iMac as I'll want to use a better soundcard for music 
production.  I will also run windows on it so I can use sonar, or I will 
just use my existing windows machine for audio work. I haven't decided 
yet, although having everything on one machine will mean less clutter.
I love the wireless keyboard, but I wish it had a number pad, so I'll 
order the wired one instead.  Also, having to use the fn key plus the 
arrow keys to act as the six pack would frustrate me.

I have a couple of questions.  I had the chance to try the new macbook 
with the multi-touch trackpad over the weekend and was very impressed.  
After having getting used to it, I was able to read webpages in safari 
fairly well using the flick method.  does any of you know if that 
technology will find it's way onto the iMac either through use of a 
touchscreen or by a trackpad integrated into the keyboard?

Secondly, how accessible is garage band or logic with voice-over?  Or am 
I best sticking with sonar for the time being?

Thanks in advance,
Dannie

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Re: New To The List

[James Nash]

Hi Dan,

Bet you don't remeber me smile.

Anyway, a lot of folks on here seem to be using Amadeus Pro.And yes, I agree 
with you, Appel's prices are prohibitive.

Take care
- Original Message - 
From: Daniel Rowe danielr...@softhome.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:50 PM
Subject: New To The List



 Hi all.

 I'm sereously considering switching over to the mac and also will be
 getting an iPhone when it becomes available on my network.  I've been
 following Apple's progress with voice-over since the beta of Tiger.
 Apple are an amazing company for putting all this effort into making
 their products so accessible.  admittedly I believe the prices are a bit
 steep, but you certainly get what you pay for I think.

 I'll be getting an iMac as I'll want to use a better soundcard for music
 production.  I will also run windows on it so I can use sonar, or I will
 just use my existing windows machine for audio work. I haven't decided
 yet, although having everything on one machine will mean less clutter.
 I love the wireless keyboard, but I wish it had a number pad, so I'll
 order the wired one instead.  Also, having to use the fn key plus the
 arrow keys to act as the six pack would frustrate me.

 I have a couple of questions.  I had the chance to try the new macbook
 with the multi-touch trackpad over the weekend and was very impressed.
 After having getting used to it, I was able to read webpages in safari
 fairly well using the flick method.  does any of you know if that
 technology will find it's way onto the iMac either through use of a
 touchscreen or by a trackpad integrated into the keyboard?

 Secondly, how accessible is garage band or logic with voice-over?  Or am
 I best sticking with sonar for the time being?

 Thanks in advance,
 Dannie

  


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Re: New To The List

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

I definitely don't think Apple's prices are that bed. Hell, you have  
Windows laptops that cost that much, and that's basic. At least, the  
prices in my country are stupidly high for a Windows computer. And  
then, of course, I have to pay even more money to get a screen reader  
if I don't already have one. Which is about $1000 for a JAWS pro, 250  
or so bucks for the SMA update. I think Apple's prices are fairly  
reasonable when you consider that part. Not to mention you  need an  
SMA every time a new JAWS version is released if your current  
authorization doesn't cover the newest version. Besides, which Windows  
computer can you actually install literally from scratch?

Just for those reasons alone, it's worth it. I realize I'm only  
picking on JAWS, but I won't even mention Window-Eyes apparently  
charging $39.95 for a trial license. It might not seem like much, but  
I still think that's outrageous, considering it's a trial, and you  
might not even like the application.

I've said my piece about pricing. :). To me, that's worth a price that  
even a Windows laptop can beat in my country. Granted, you can use  
NVDA on Windows, but it might not be as advanced as the commercially  
available screen readers. In my opinion, VoiceOver already surpassed  
those by a long-shot. That's just my opinion, though. And that is  
technically a free solution, since you are not required to pay for  
SMAs or any of that annoying stuff. I personally think Apple should be  
commended for their commitment to accessibility to a system from the  
ground up, no additional software required. No Video Intercept issues  
*cough*. Concerning that last comment, I don't want to slam Windows.  
Just thought I'd mention that as well, since I'm sure I'm not the only  
one who has had issues with it.

Good night everybody.

Regards,
Nic
Skype: Kvalme
MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
AIM: cincinster
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On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:16 PM, James  Nash wrote:


 Hi Dan,

 Bet you don't remeber me smile.

 Anyway, a lot of folks on here seem to be using Amadeus Pro.And yes,  
 I agree
 with you, Appel's prices are prohibitive.

 Take care
 - Original Message -
 From: Daniel Rowe danielr...@softhome.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:50 PM
 Subject: New To The List



 Hi all.

 I'm sereously considering switching over to the mac and also will be
 getting an iPhone when it becomes available on my network.  I've been
 following Apple's progress with voice-over since the beta of Tiger.
 Apple are an amazing company for putting all this effort into making
 their products so accessible.  admittedly I believe the prices are  
 a bit
 steep, but you certainly get what you pay for I think.

 I'll be getting an iMac as I'll want to use a better soundcard for  
 music
 production.  I will also run windows on it so I can use sonar, or I  
 will
 just use my existing windows machine for audio work. I haven't  
 decided
 yet, although having everything on one machine will mean less  
 clutter.
 I love the wireless keyboard, but I wish it had a number pad, so I'll
 order the wired one instead.  Also, having to use the fn key plus the
 arrow keys to act as the six pack would frustrate me.

 I have a couple of questions.  I had the chance to try the new  
 macbook
 with the multi-touch trackpad over the weekend and was very  
 impressed.
 After having getting used to it, I was able to read webpages in  
 safari
 fairly well using the flick method.  does any of you know if that
 technology will find it's way onto the iMac either through use of a
 touchscreen or by a trackpad integrated into the keyboard?

 Secondly, how accessible is garage band or logic with voice-over?   
 Or am
 I best sticking with sonar for the time being?

 Thanks in advance,
 Dannie




 


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Re: New IPhone 3GS list regarding accessibility

[Cara Quinn]

Hi Jane, the link for VIPhone is:

http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone

   See you there!…

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On Jun 13, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Jane Jordan (GMail) wrote:


What is the email link to subscribe to the iphone list, please? :)

Thanks,

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Re: New IPhone 3GS list regarding accessibility

[Simon Cavendish]

I would like to apologise to Cara for an unnecessary tone of my e-mail  
regarding the creation of the separate discussion group for IPhone. I  
need not have expressed my personal preferences in that way. I also  
apologise to the listers for their having to read such an exchange on  
the list.

With best wishes

Simon
On 13 Jun 2009, at 00:10, Cara Quinn wrote:


   Simon, I'll respond to you below.

 On Jun 12, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:


 Why do we have to have a separate list for every single thing that
 happens regarding voiceover and such like?

   Perhaps I'm not getting your tone right here, but Do  we really
 need to be this touchy about every little thing? If you must know, I
 created that list not to shunt off discussions from here, but just
 because I wanted to! :)

   Neither you, nor anyone else here need join if you don't wish.
 Someone did ask me about the possibility of excess traffic over the
 IPhone, and if I thought another list was necessary, and I said no. -
 And I still don't…

   If you'd like to join the new list, then by all means, go right
 ahead.

   However, I will say that if there are a number of people who write
 me, frustrated with the traffic level concerning the IPhone if the
 list does get out of hand, then I most certainly will suggest that
 topics be moved there…

 Are we going to have a
 separate list for Ipod too?

   Your sarcasm aside, no, I wasn't planning on doing that; however,
 with all due respect, I'll set up whatever lists I choose to, and
 you're welcome to do the same, yes?…

 It just fragments things and makes it
 impossible to follow things. But if that's what people want, that's
 fine with me.

   I'd agree that too many lists on similar topics can fragment things
 but it's also good to have choices.

   If this is in fact, fine with you, then why, might I ask are you so
 upset?…  :)

 Has there been a request for a separate list for IPhone?

   (See above)

   Simon, and All, please know that as list mod, I will do whatever is
 the best fit for this list as a whole. This, however, might rub some
 the wrong way. -But I'll do what's necessary to help the list run
 smoothly for all of us, or as many as possible, not just a few of us.

   Thanks for your note and have a nice weekend!…

 Sincerely,

 Cara  :)

 Best wishes

 Simon
 On 12 Jun 2009, at 21:47, Cara Quinn wrote:


 Hello All;

 I've just started a list called VIPhone, (Visually Impaired -
 IPhone) on GoogleGroups to discuss the new Apple IPhone 3GS.

 the url is:

 http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone

 Please feel free to share this url anywhere you like, to anyone you
 feel might want to discuss this sort of thing.  The list is both for
 those of us whom are early-adopters, as well as for anyone whom may
 have questions / political views etc on the new IPhone.

 As far as list etiquette goes, as far as I'm concerned, the list
 will reflect the character of its members. smile  -You want flame
 wars, fine, have them! -Want a friendly, welcoming, well-informed
 list, then wonderful! You've got that!  You'll have the list you
 create!



 If there's something drastic, and I need to step in as mod, then be
 assured, I will; other than that, -Be the list you want…

 Enjoy and let's explore the IPhone together!…

 Smiles,

 Cara  :)
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Re: New IPhone 3GS list regarding accessibility

[Jane Jordan (GMail)]

What is the email link to subscribe to the iphone list, please? :)

Thanks,

Jane



Cara Quinn wrote:
Simon, I'll respond to you below.

 On Jun 12, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:


 Why do we have to have a separate list for every single thing that
 happens regarding voiceover and such like?

Perhaps I'm not getting your tone right here, but Do  we really  
 need to be this touchy about every little thing? If you must know, I  
 created that list not to shunt off discussions from here, but just  
 because I wanted to! :)

Neither you, nor anyone else here need join if you don't wish.  
 Someone did ask me about the possibility of excess traffic over the  
 IPhone, and if I thought another list was necessary, and I said no. - 
 And I still don't…

If you'd like to join the new list, then by all means, go right  
 ahead.

However, I will say that if there are a number of people who write  
 me, frustrated with the traffic level concerning the IPhone if the  
 list does get out of hand, then I most certainly will suggest that  
 topics be moved there…

 Are we going to have a
 separate list for Ipod too?

Your sarcasm aside, no, I wasn't planning on doing that; however,  
 with all due respect, I'll set up whatever lists I choose to, and  
 you're welcome to do the same, yes?…

 It just fragments things and makes it
 impossible to follow things. But if that's what people want, that's
 fine with me.

I'd agree that too many lists on similar topics can fragment things  
 but it's also good to have choices.

If this is in fact, fine with you, then why, might I ask are you so  
 upset?…  :)

 Has there been a request for a separate list for IPhone?

(See above)

Simon, and All, please know that as list mod, I will do whatever is  
 the best fit for this list as a whole. This, however, might rub some  
 the wrong way. -But I'll do what's necessary to help the list run  
 smoothly for all of us, or as many as possible, not just a few of us.

Thanks for your note and have a nice weekend!…

 Sincerely,

 Cara  :)

 Best wishes

 Simon
 On 12 Jun 2009, at 21:47, Cara Quinn wrote:

   
  Hello All;

  I've just started a list called VIPhone, (Visually Impaired -
 IPhone) on GoogleGroups to discuss the new Apple IPhone 3GS.

  the url is:

 http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone

  Please feel free to share this url anywhere you like, to anyone you
 feel might want to discuss this sort of thing.  The list is both for
 those of us whom are early-adopters, as well as for anyone whom may
 have questions / political views etc on the new IPhone.

  As far as list etiquette goes, as far as I'm concerned, the list
 will reflect the character of its members. smile  -You want flame
 wars, fine, have them! -Want a friendly, welcoming, well-informed
 list, then wonderful! You've got that!  You'll have the list you
 create!



  If there's something drastic, and I need to step in as mod, then be
 assured, I will; other than that, -Be the list you want…

  Enjoy and let's explore the IPhone together!…

 Smiles,

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New IPhone 3GS list regarding accessibility

[Cara Quinn]

   Hello All;

   I've just started a list called VIPhone, (Visually Impaired -  
IPhone) on GoogleGroups to discuss the new Apple IPhone 3GS.

   the url is:

http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone

   Please feel free to share this url anywhere you like, to anyone you  
feel might want to discuss this sort of thing.  The list is both for  
those of us whom are early-adopters, as well as for anyone whom may  
have questions / political views etc on the new IPhone.

   As far as list etiquette goes, as far as I'm concerned, the list  
will reflect the character of its members. smile  -You want flame  
wars, fine, have them! -Want a friendly, welcoming, well-informed  
list, then wonderful! You've got that!  You'll have the list you create!



   If there's something drastic, and I need to step in as mod, then be  
assured, I will; other than that, -Be the list you want…

   Enjoy and let's explore the IPhone together!…

Smiles,

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Re: New IPhone 3GS list regarding accessibility

[Justin Harford]

Hi there

Simon Cavendish wrote

 Has there been a request for a separate list for IPhone?


There has now.

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Re: New IPhone 3GS list regarding accessibility

[Larry Wanger]

Hi,

I think the iPod is different than the iPhone. The iPhone is a much  
more dynamic platform and I think that there could be many messages  
about the iPhone both at the release and then over time. There is  
certainly a group of people on the current list that are only Mac  
users and may not want the bother of all the iPhone related traffic.
On Jun 12, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:


 Why do we have to have a separate list for every single thing that
 happens regarding voiceover and such like? Are we going to have a
 separate list for Ipod too? It just fragments things and makes it
 impossible to follow things. But if that's what people want, that's
 fine with me. Has there been a request for a separate list for IPhone?

 Best wishes

 Simon
 On 12 Jun 2009, at 21:47, Cara Quinn wrote:


  Hello All;

  I've just started a list called VIPhone, (Visually Impaired -
 IPhone) on GoogleGroups to discuss the new Apple IPhone 3GS.

  the url is:

 http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone

  Please feel free to share this url anywhere you like, to anyone you
 feel might want to discuss this sort of thing.  The list is both for
 those of us whom are early-adopters, as well as for anyone whom may
 have questions / political views etc on the new IPhone.

  As far as list etiquette goes, as far as I'm concerned, the list
 will reflect the character of its members. smile  -You want flame
 wars, fine, have them! -Want a friendly, welcoming, well-informed
 list, then wonderful! You've got that!  You'll have the list you
 create!



  If there's something drastic, and I need to step in as mod, then be
 assured, I will; other than that, -Be the list you want…

  Enjoy and let's explore the IPhone together!…

 Smiles,

 Cara  :)
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Re: New IPhone 3GS list regarding accessibility

[Cara Quinn]

   Simon, I'll respond to you below.

On Jun 12, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:


Why do we have to have a separate list for every single thing that
happens regarding voiceover and such like?

   Perhaps I'm not getting your tone right here, but Do  we really  
need to be this touchy about every little thing? If you must know, I  
created that list not to shunt off discussions from here, but just  
because I wanted to! :)

   Neither you, nor anyone else here need join if you don't wish.  
Someone did ask me about the possibility of excess traffic over the  
IPhone, and if I thought another list was necessary, and I said no. - 
And I still don't…

   If you'd like to join the new list, then by all means, go right  
ahead.

   However, I will say that if there are a number of people who write  
me, frustrated with the traffic level concerning the IPhone if the  
list does get out of hand, then I most certainly will suggest that  
topics be moved there…

Are we going to have a
separate list for Ipod too?

   Your sarcasm aside, no, I wasn't planning on doing that; however,  
with all due respect, I'll set up whatever lists I choose to, and  
you're welcome to do the same, yes?…

It just fragments things and makes it
impossible to follow things. But if that's what people want, that's
fine with me.

   I'd agree that too many lists on similar topics can fragment things  
but it's also good to have choices.

   If this is in fact, fine with you, then why, might I ask are you so  
upset?…  :)

Has there been a request for a separate list for IPhone?

   (See above)

   Simon, and All, please know that as list mod, I will do whatever is  
the best fit for this list as a whole. This, however, might rub some  
the wrong way. -But I'll do what's necessary to help the list run  
smoothly for all of us, or as many as possible, not just a few of us.

   Thanks for your note and have a nice weekend!…

Sincerely,

Cara  :)

Best wishes

Simon
On 12 Jun 2009, at 21:47, Cara Quinn wrote:


  Hello All;

  I've just started a list called VIPhone, (Visually Impaired -
 IPhone) on GoogleGroups to discuss the new Apple IPhone 3GS.

  the url is:

 http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone

  Please feel free to share this url anywhere you like, to anyone you
 feel might want to discuss this sort of thing.  The list is both for
 those of us whom are early-adopters, as well as for anyone whom may
 have questions / political views etc on the new IPhone.

  As far as list etiquette goes, as far as I'm concerned, the list
 will reflect the character of its members. smile  -You want flame
 wars, fine, have them! -Want a friendly, welcoming, well-informed
 list, then wonderful! You've got that!  You'll have the list you
 create!



  If there's something drastic, and I need to step in as mod, then be
 assured, I will; other than that, -Be the list you want…

  Enjoy and let's explore the IPhone together!…

 Smiles,

 Cara  :)
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Re: New IPhone 3GS list regarding accessibility

[Mike Reiser]

I don't have a problem with a seperate iphone list.  I can see where  
both sides are comeing from, but I don't have a problem either way.

Mike
On Jun 12, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:


 I think it's a good idea. Not everyone that owns a Mac necessarily
 wants to know about the iPhone, and vice versa. In my case I just send
 everything from vo-bs, macvoiceover and macvisionaries to the same
 mailbox using a rule, so many times I don't even pay attention to the
 list I'm reading. So the iPhone list will probably go to that mailbox
 too. This works great for me.
 On Jun 12, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Justin Harford wrote:


 HiI would like to see a separate list for iphone discussions.

 Regards
 Justin Harford
 On Jun 12, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


 Hello All;

 I've just started a list called VIPhone, (Visually Impaired -
 IPhone) on GoogleGroups to discuss the new Apple IPhone 3GS.

 the url is:

 http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone

 Please feel free to share this url anywhere you like, to anyone you
 feel might want to discuss this sort of thing.  The list is both for
 those of us whom are early-adopters, as well as for anyone whom may
 have questions / political views etc on the new IPhone.

 As far as list etiquette goes, as far as I'm concerned, the list
 will reflect the character of its members. smile  -You want flame
 wars, fine, have them! -Want a friendly, welcoming, well-informed
 list, then wonderful! You've got that!  You'll have the list you
 create!



 If there's something drastic, and I need to step in as mod, then be
 assured, I will; other than that, -Be the list you want…

 Enjoy and let's explore the IPhone together!…

 Smiles,

 Cara  :)
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