Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

When you are reading the document within the Files app, you should have a Share 
button down near the bottom of the screen.  Double-tap that and send it to the 
app you wish to edit it in.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:50, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Donna,
  We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
getting around to working on this.

  On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, if 
I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.

  I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from any 
device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. But if 
I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out iCloud 
Drive, I am home free. Thanks.

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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

A problem with the method I mentioned is that it will make a duplicate copy of 
the document in the other app.  so, for example, if you chose to share the 
document to Pages, it would make an editable copy of the document with the 
dot-Pages extension.  Thus, you would not be specifically working in the same 
document as you had originally in the Files app.  Not sure if this will be 
improved upon in future updates to the Files app, but that's the best I can 
suggest for now.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

When you are reading the document within the Files app, you should have a Share 
button down near the bottom of the screen.  Double-tap that and send it to the 
app you wish to edit it in.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:50, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

Hi Donna,
  We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
getting around to working on this.

  On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, if 
I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.

  I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from any 
device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. But if 
I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out iCloud 
Drive, I am home free. Thanks.

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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi ET,

When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently opened 
files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, recents, which 
is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse and open files in 
iCloud drive.

In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All your 
recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to enable 
iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which is at the 
top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. Then select 
Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice between Recents, and 
Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will be one of your 
options.
HTH,
Donna

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
>   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
> getting around to working on this.
> 
>   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
> edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, 
> if I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.
> 
>   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from 
> any device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. 
> But if I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out 
> iCloud Drive, I am home free. Thanks.
> 
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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Tim,
   Had not thought to look at the Share feature. So if I share the 
document and edit it, the copy on iCloud Drive is untouched? Can you 
then save it back to iCloud Drive? Thanks, as always.


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On 1/7/2020 11:00 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

A problem with the method I mentioned is that it will make a duplicate 
copy of the document in the other app.  so, for example, if you chose to 
share the document to Pages, it would make an editable copy of the 
document with the dot-Pages extension.  Thus, you would not be 
specifically working in the same document as you had originally in the 
Files app.  Not sure if this will be improved upon in future updates to 
the Files app, but that's the best I can suggest for now.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Hi,

When you are reading the document within the Files app, you should have 
a Share button down near the bottom of the screen.  Double-tap that and 
send it to the app you wish to edit it in.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:50, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Hi Donna,
   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am 
finally getting around to working on this.


   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then 
would I edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the 
other hand, if I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder 
on iCloud Drive.


   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access 
from any device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them 
is fine. But if I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I 
can figure out iCloud Drive, I am home free. Thanks.


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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Donna,
   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify 
that again. I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the 
screen) but I will work with it. Thanks.


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On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,

When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently opened 
files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, recents, which 
is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse and open files in 
iCloud drive.

In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All your 
recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to enable 
iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which is at the 
top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. Then select 
Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice between Recents, and 
Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will be one of your 
options.
HTH,
Donna


On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Donna,
   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
getting around to working on this.

   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, if 
I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.

   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from any 
device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. But if 
I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out iCloud 
Drive, I am home free. Thanks.

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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the files 
you've worked with within the app.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify that 
> again. I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the screen) 
> but I will work with it. Thanks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi ET,
>> When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently opened 
>> files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, recents, 
>> which is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse and open 
>> files in iCloud drive.
>> In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All 
>> your recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to 
>> enable iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which is 
>> at the top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. Then 
>> select Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice between 
>> Recents, and Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will 
>> be one of your options.
>> HTH,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>>   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am 
>>> finally getting around to working on this.
>>> 
>>>   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
>>> edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, 
>>> if I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.
>>> 
>>>   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from 
>>> any device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is 
>>> fine. But if I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can 
>>> figure out iCloud Drive, I am home free. Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Yes.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:21, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Tim,
  Had not thought to look at the Share feature. So if I share the document and 
edit it, the copy on iCloud Drive is untouched? Can you then save it back to 
iCloud Drive? Thanks, as always.

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On 1/7/2020 11:00 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> A problem with the method I mentioned is that it will make a duplicate copy 
> of the document in the other app.  so, for example, if you chose to share the 
> document to Pages, it would make an editable copy of the document with the 
> dot-Pages extension.  Thus, you would not be specifically working in the same 
> document as you had originally in the Files app.  Not sure if this will be 
> improved upon in future updates to the Files app, but that's the best I can 
> suggest for now.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:52, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> Hi,
> When you are reading the document within the Files app, you should have a 
> Share button down near the bottom of the screen.  Double-tap that and send it 
> to the app you wish to edit it in.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:50, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> Hi Donna,
>   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
> getting around to working on this.
>   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
> edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, 
> if I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.
>   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from 
> any device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. 
> But if I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out 
> iCloud Drive, I am home free. Thanks.
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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

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   Yes the more I do this the better. Are you still happy with that 99 
cent text editor?


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On 1/7/2020 11:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the files 
you've worked with within the app.
Cheers,
Donna



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Donna,
   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify that again. 
I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the screen) but I will 
work with it. Thanks.

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On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,
When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently opened 
files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, recents, which 
is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse and open files in 
iCloud drive.
In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All your 
recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to enable 
iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which is at the 
top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. Then select 
Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice between Recents, and 
Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will be one of your 
options.
HTH,
Donna

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Hi Donna,
   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
getting around to working on this.

   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, if 
I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.

   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from any 
device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. But if 
I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out iCloud 
Drive, I am home free. Thanks.

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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I was traveling over the holidays, so I haven't done much with it, but yes. 
Also, VoiceDream works really well, too.
Donna


> On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Yes the more I do this the better. Are you still happy with that 99 cent 
> text editor?
> 
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> On 1/7/2020 11:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the files 
>> you've worked with within the app.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna,
>>>   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify that 
>>> again. I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the screen) 
>>> but I will work with it. Thanks.
>>> 
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>>> On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi ET,
 When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently 
 opened files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, 
 recents, which is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse 
 and open files in iCloud drive.
 In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All 
 your recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to 
 enable iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which 
 is at the top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. 
 Then select Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice 
 between Recents, and Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, 
 that will be one of your options.
 HTH,
 Donna
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
>   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am 
> finally getting around to working on this.
> 
>   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would 
> I edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other 
> hand, if I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on 
> iCloud Drive.
> 
>   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access 
> from any device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them 
> is fine. But if I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I 
> can figure out iCloud Drive, I am home free. Thanks.
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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

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Donna,
   I was just working with Voice Dream Writer and Text Editor and find 
the former easier to use. Both apps are set up in iCloud Drive. If I 
open a document in iCloud Drive, it opens in Text Editor. How do I 
change that? Thanks.


   I am disappointed that Comic Sans MS is not in the list of fonts. 
Could be worse, right?


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On 1/7/2020 3:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I was traveling over the holidays, so I haven't done much with it, but yes. 
Also, VoiceDream works really well, too.
Donna



On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Yes the more I do this the better. Are you still happy with that 99 cent 
text editor?

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On 1/7/2020 11:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the files 
you've worked with within the app.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify that again. 
I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the screen) but I will 
work with it. Thanks.

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On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,
When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently opened 
files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, recents, which 
is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse and open files in 
iCloud drive.
In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All your 
recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to enable 
iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which is at the 
top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. Then select 
Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice between Recents, and 
Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will be one of your 
options.
HTH,
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Donna,
   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
getting around to working on this.

   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, if 
I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.

   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from any 
device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. But if 
I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out iCloud 
Drive, I am home free. Thanks.

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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

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Hmm, not sure. Maybe try deleting Text Editor? You can always reinstall it.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>   I was just working with Voice Dream Writer and Text Editor and find the 
> former easier to use. Both apps are set up in iCloud Drive. If I open a 
> document in iCloud Drive, it opens in Text Editor. How do I change that? 
> Thanks.
> 
>   I am disappointed that Comic Sans MS is not in the list of fonts. Could be 
> worse, right?
> 
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> On 1/7/2020 3:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> I was traveling over the holidays, so I haven't done much with it, but yes. 
>> Also, VoiceDream works really well, too.
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Yes the more I do this the better. Are you still happy with that 99 cent 
>>> text editor?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> On 1/7/2020 11:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the 
 files you've worked with within the app.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify that 
> again. I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the 
> screen) but I will work with it. Thanks.
> 
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> On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi ET,
>> When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently 
>> opened files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, 
>> recents, which is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can 
>> browse and open files in iCloud drive.
>> In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. 
>> All your recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will 
>> want to enable iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add 
>> Document, which is at the top left of the screen, right next to the File 
>> Manager button.. Then select Import from External Location. Then you'll 
>> have a choice between Recents, and Browse. If you Select Browse, and 
>> iCloud is enabled, that will be one of your options.
>> HTH,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>>   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am 
>>> finally getting around to working on this.
>>> 
>>>   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then 
>>> would I edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the 
>>> other hand, if I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder 
>>> on iCloud Drive.
>>> 
>>>   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access 
>>> from any device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading 
>>> them is fine. But if I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. 
>>> If I can figure out iCloud Drive, I am home free. Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Donna,
   I was testing different things and was not looking in the app 
specific folder. But now a question. If say, on Windows, I edit an rtf 
file then try to view it on the iPhone, I get an error message saying it 
failed to import, file must be in plain text. This happened in both 
Voice Dream  Writer and Pages. Have you seen this too?


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On 1/9/2020 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hmm, not sure. Maybe try deleting Text Editor? You can always reinstall it.
Cheers,
Donna



On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   I was just working with Voice Dream Writer and Text Editor and find the 
former easier to use. Both apps are set up in iCloud Drive. If I open a 
document in iCloud Drive, it opens in Text Editor. How do I change that? Thanks.

   I am disappointed that Comic Sans MS is not in the list of fonts. Could be 
worse, right?

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On 1/7/2020 3:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I was traveling over the holidays, so I haven't done much with it, but yes. 
Also, VoiceDream works really well, too.
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Yes the more I do this the better. Are you still happy with that 99 cent 
text editor?

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On 1/7/2020 11:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the files 
you've worked with within the app.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify that again. 
I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the screen) but I will 
work with it. Thanks.

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On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,
When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently opened 
files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, recents, which 
is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse and open files in 
iCloud drive.
In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All your 
recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to enable 
iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which is at the 
top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. Then select 
Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice between Recents, and 
Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will be one of your 
options.
HTH,
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Donna,
   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
getting around to working on this.

   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, if 
I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.

   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from any 
device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. But if 
I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out iCloud 
Drive, I am home free. Thanks.

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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi ET,

I haven't had time to mess with this for a while, but no, I did not have that 
problem. I was able to open a file that had been edited in Windows.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 10, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>   I was testing different things and was not looking in the app specific 
> folder. But now a question. If say, on Windows, I edit an rtf file then try 
> to view it on the iPhone, I get an error message saying it failed to import, 
> file must be in plain text. This happened in both Voice Dream  Writer and 
> Pages. Have you seen this too?
> 
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> On 1/9/2020 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hmm, not sure. Maybe try deleting Text Editor? You can always reinstall it.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna,
>>>   I was just working with Voice Dream Writer and Text Editor and find the 
>>> former easier to use. Both apps are set up in iCloud Drive. If I open a 
>>> document in iCloud Drive, it opens in Text Editor. How do I change that? 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>>   I am disappointed that Comic Sans MS is not in the list of fonts. Could 
>>> be worse, right?
>>> 
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>>> On 1/7/2020 3:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 I was traveling over the holidays, so I haven't done much with it, but 
 yes. Also, VoiceDream works really well, too.
 Donna
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Yes the more I do this the better. Are you still happy with that 99 
> cent text editor?
> 
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> On 1/7/2020 11:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the 
>> files you've worked with within the app.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna,
>>>   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify that 
>>> again. I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the 
>>> screen) but I will work with it. Thanks.
>>> 
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>>> On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi ET,
 When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently 
 opened files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, 
 recents, which is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can 
 browse and open files in iCloud drive.
 In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. 
 All your recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will 
 want to enable iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add 
 Document, which is at the top left of the screen, right next to the 
 File Manager button.. Then select Import from External Location. Then 
 you'll have a choice between Recents, and Browse. If you Select 
 Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will be one of your options.
 HTH,
 Donna
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
>   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am 
> finally getting around to working on this.
> 
>   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then 
> would I edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On 
> the other hand, if I open either app, I cannot find the file in its 
> folder on iCloud Drive.
> 
>   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access 
> from any device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading 
> them is fine. But if I need to do any editing, that is where I am 
> lost. If I can figure out iCloud Drive, I am home free. Thanks.
> 
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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Hmm! Well I will try to figure things out this weekend.  On the 
iPhone I got to where if I open a file in either Pages or Writer it 
would open in iCloud Drive.


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On 1/10/2020 2:05 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,

I haven't had time to mess with this for a while, but no, I did not have that 
problem. I was able to open a file that had been edited in Windows.
Cheers,
Donna



On Jan 10, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   I was testing different things and was not looking in the app specific 
folder. But now a question. If say, on Windows, I edit an rtf file then try to 
view it on the iPhone, I get an error message saying it failed to import, file 
must be in plain text. This happened in both Voice Dream  Writer and Pages. 
Have you seen this too?

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On 1/9/2020 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hmm, not sure. Maybe try deleting Text Editor? You can always reinstall it.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   I was just working with Voice Dream Writer and Text Editor and find the 
former easier to use. Both apps are set up in iCloud Drive. If I open a 
document in iCloud Drive, it opens in Text Editor. How do I change that? Thanks.

   I am disappointed that Comic Sans MS is not in the list of fonts. Could be 
worse, right?

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On 1/7/2020 3:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I was traveling over the holidays, so I haven't done much with it, but yes. 
Also, VoiceDream works really well, too.
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Yes the more I do this the better. Are you still happy with that 99 cent 
text editor?

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On 1/7/2020 11:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the files 
you've worked with within the app.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify that again. 
I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the screen) but I will 
work with it. Thanks.

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On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,
When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently opened 
files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, recents, which 
is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse and open files in 
iCloud drive.
In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All your 
recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to enable 
iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which is at the 
top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. Then select 
Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice between Recents, and 
Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will be one of your 
options.
HTH,
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Donna,
   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
getting around to working on this.

   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, if 
I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.

   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from any 
device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. But if 
I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out iCloud 
Drive, I am home free. Thanks.

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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I'm not sure if I could open my windows edited file in writer. If I get some 
time this weekend, I'll try and re-test.
Donna

> On Jan 10, 2020, at 4:59 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Hmm! Well I will try to figure things out this weekend.  On the iPhone I 
> got to where if I open a file in either Pages or Writer it would open in 
> iCloud Drive.
> 
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> On 1/10/2020 2:05 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi ET,
>> I haven't had time to mess with this for a while, but no, I did not have 
>> that problem. I was able to open a file that had been edited in Windows.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 10, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna,
>>>   I was testing different things and was not looking in the app specific 
>>> folder. But now a question. If say, on Windows, I edit an rtf file then try 
>>> to view it on the iPhone, I get an error message saying it failed to 
>>> import, file must be in plain text. This happened in both Voice Dream  
>>> Writer and Pages. Have you seen this too?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> On 1/9/2020 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hmm, not sure. Maybe try deleting Text Editor? You can always reinstall it.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>   I was just working with Voice Dream Writer and Text Editor and find the 
> former easier to use. Both apps are set up in iCloud Drive. If I open a 
> document in iCloud Drive, it opens in Text Editor. How do I change that? 
> Thanks.
> 
>   I am disappointed that Comic Sans MS is not in the list of fonts. Could 
> be worse, right?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 1/7/2020 3:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> I was traveling over the holidays, so I haven't done much with it, but 
>> yes. Also, VoiceDream works really well, too.
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Yes the more I do this the better. Are you still happy with that 99 
>>> cent text editor?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 1/7/2020 11:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the 
 files you've worked with within the app.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify 
> that again. I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on 
> the screen) but I will work with it. Thanks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> 
> On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi ET,
>> When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently 
>> opened files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two 
>> buttons, recents, which is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, 
>> you can browse and open files in iCloud drive.
>> In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File 
>> Manager. All your recently opened files will show up there. (Note 
>> that you will want to enable iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can 
>> select Add Document, which is at the top left of the screen, right 
>> next to the File Manager button.. Then select Import from External 
>> Location. Then you'll have a choice between Recents, and Browse. If 
>> you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will be one of your 
>> options.
>> HTH,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>>   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I 
>>> am finally getting around to working on this.
>>> 
>>>   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then 
>>> would I edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On 
>>> the other hand, if I open either app, I cannot find the file in its 
>>> folder on iCl

Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Donna,
   I may be overdriving this. I want to settle on which rtf editor I 
use on the Mac and on the iDevices. I copied the same document to the 
native TextEdit folder in iCloud Drive. But on the iPhone, when I want 
to the TextEdit folder and selected that file, it opened in Voice Dream 
Writer. I better take a break. :)


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On 1/10/2020 3:24 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I'm not sure if I could open my windows edited file in writer. If I get some 
time this weekend, I'll try and re-test.
Donna


On Jan 10, 2020, at 4:59 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Hmm! Well I will try to figure things out this weekend.  On the iPhone I got 
to where if I open a file in either Pages or Writer it would open in iCloud 
Drive.

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On 1/10/2020 2:05 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,
I haven't had time to mess with this for a while, but no, I did not have that 
problem. I was able to open a file that had been edited in Windows.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jan 10, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   I was testing different things and was not looking in the app specific 
folder. But now a question. If say, on Windows, I edit an rtf file then try to 
view it on the iPhone, I get an error message saying it failed to import, file 
must be in plain text. This happened in both Voice Dream  Writer and Pages. 
Have you seen this too?

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On 1/9/2020 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hmm, not sure. Maybe try deleting Text Editor? You can always reinstall it.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   I was just working with Voice Dream Writer and Text Editor and find the 
former easier to use. Both apps are set up in iCloud Drive. If I open a 
document in iCloud Drive, it opens in Text Editor. How do I change that? Thanks.

   I am disappointed that Comic Sans MS is not in the list of fonts. Could be 
worse, right?

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On 1/7/2020 3:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I was traveling over the holidays, so I haven't done much with it, but yes. 
Also, VoiceDream works really well, too.
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Yes the more I do this the better. Are you still happy with that 99 cent 
text editor?

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On 1/7/2020 11:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the files 
you've worked with within the app.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify that again. 
I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the screen) but I will 
work with it. Thanks.

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On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,
When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently opened 
files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, recents, which 
is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse and open files in 
iCloud drive.
In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All your 
recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to enable 
iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which is at the 
top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. Then select 
Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice between Recents, and 
Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will be one of your 
options.
HTH,
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Donna,
   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
getting around to working on this.

   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, if 
I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.

   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from any 
device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. But if 
I need to do any editing, that is where I am lost. If I can figure out iCloud 
Drive, I am home 

Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Donna,
   Perhaps if I could impose upon you, it might help me if you can tell 
me how you do it.


   Using Voice Dream Writer, what steps do you take to create or edit 
an rtf document? Do do all of it from the Voice Dream Writer on iCloud 
Drive?


   When I edit the document, I do not see a save option. Under the 
Export button I used the export to external destination option.


   Thanks much Donna.

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On 1/10/2020 3:24 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I'm not sure if I could open my windows edited file in writer. If I get some 
time this weekend, I'll try and re-test.
Donna


On Jan 10, 2020, at 4:59 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Hmm! Well I will try to figure things out this weekend.  On the iPhone I got 
to where if I open a file in either Pages or Writer it would open in iCloud 
Drive.

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On 1/10/2020 2:05 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,
I haven't had time to mess with this for a while, but no, I did not have that 
problem. I was able to open a file that had been edited in Windows.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jan 10, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   I was testing different things and was not looking in the app specific 
folder. But now a question. If say, on Windows, I edit an rtf file then try to 
view it on the iPhone, I get an error message saying it failed to import, file 
must be in plain text. This happened in both Voice Dream  Writer and Pages. 
Have you seen this too?

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On 1/9/2020 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hmm, not sure. Maybe try deleting Text Editor? You can always reinstall it.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   I was just working with Voice Dream Writer and Text Editor and find the 
former easier to use. Both apps are set up in iCloud Drive. If I open a 
document in iCloud Drive, it opens in Text Editor. How do I change that? Thanks.

   I am disappointed that Comic Sans MS is not in the list of fonts. Could be 
worse, right?

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On 1/7/2020 3:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I was traveling over the holidays, so I haven't done much with it, but yes. 
Also, VoiceDream works really well, too.
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Yes the more I do this the better. Are you still happy with that 99 cent 
text editor?

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On 1/7/2020 11:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the files 
you've worked with within the app.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify that again. 
I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the screen) but I will 
work with it. Thanks.

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On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,
When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently opened 
files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, recents, which 
is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse and open files in 
iCloud drive.
In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All your 
recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to enable 
iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which is at the 
top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager button.. Then select 
Import from External Location. Then you'll have a choice between Recents, and 
Browse. If you Select Browse, and iCloud is enabled, that will be one of your 
options.
HTH,
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Donna,
   We had discussed this regarding rtf editors and iCloud Drive. I am finally 
getting around to working on this.

   On the iPad I can find any file using the Files app. But how then would I 
edit a file using say, TextEditor or Voice Dream Writer? On the other hand, if 
I open either app, I cannot find the file in its folder on iCloud Drive.

   I've been placing certain documents on iCloud Drive for easy access from any 
device such as a list of shortcuts for Mac or iOS. Reading them is fine. But if 
I need to do any

Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi ET,
So I have no problem saving a document as RTF, but you are correct, you can't 
open anything but plain text in Writer. Too bad, that seriously limits its 
functionality. Not sure what the developer was thinking here. I mean, who works 
with txt documents anymore!
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jan 10, 2020, at 8:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>   Perhaps if I could impose upon you, it might help me if you can tell me how 
> you do it.
> 
>   Using Voice Dream Writer, what steps do you take to create or edit an rtf 
> document? Do do all of it from the Voice Dream Writer on iCloud Drive?
> 
>   When I edit the document, I do not see a save option. Under the Export 
> button I used the export to external destination option.
> 
>   Thanks much Donna.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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> 
> On 1/10/2020 3:24 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> I'm not sure if I could open my windows edited file in writer. If I get some 
>> time this weekend, I'll try and re-test.
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 10, 2020, at 4:59 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Hmm! Well I will try to figure things out this weekend.  On the iPhone I 
>>> got to where if I open a file in either Pages or Writer it would open in 
>>> iCloud Drive.
>>> 
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>>> On 1/10/2020 2:05 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi ET,
 I haven't had time to mess with this for a while, but no, I did not have 
 that problem. I was able to open a file that had been edited in Windows.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Jan 10, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>   I was testing different things and was not looking in the app specific 
> folder. But now a question. If say, on Windows, I edit an rtf file then 
> try to view it on the iPhone, I get an error message saying it failed to 
> import, file must be in plain text. This happened in both Voice Dream  
> Writer and Pages. Have you seen this too?
> 
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> On 1/9/2020 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hmm, not sure. Maybe try deleting Text Editor? You can always reinstall 
>> it.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna,
>>>   I was just working with Voice Dream Writer and Text Editor and find 
>>> the former easier to use. Both apps are set up in iCloud Drive. If I 
>>> open a document in iCloud Drive, it opens in Text Editor. How do I 
>>> change that? Thanks.
>>> 
>>>   I am disappointed that Comic Sans MS is not in the list of fonts. 
>>> Could be worse, right?
>>> 
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>>> On 1/7/2020 3:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 I was traveling over the holidays, so I haven't done much with it, but 
 yes. Also, VoiceDream works really well, too.
 Donna
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   Yes the more I do this the better. Are you still happy with that 99 
> cent text editor?
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> On 1/7/2020 11:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see 
>> the files you've worked with within the app.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donna,
>>>   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify 
>>> that again. I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on 
>>> the screen) but I will work with it. Thanks.
>>> 
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>>> On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi ET,
 When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of 
 recently opened files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are 
 two buttons, recents, which is selected, and Browse. If you tap 
 browse, you 

Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

[Dave Carlson]

Donna,
I’ll raise my hand. I still use text files all the time, in .txt format. Simple 
is golden, even if I am a dinosaur.

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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

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Wow! Well, OK then. :) I guess Voice Dream Writer will suit you just fine.
Cheers,
Donna

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> I’ll raise my hand. I still use text files all the time, in .txt format. 
> Simple is golden, even if I am a dinosaur.
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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

[Dave Carlson]

Not hampered by editing on my iDevice. I do all my editing on the Mac or PC. 
TextEdit or Notepad are just fine.


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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   After going brain dead last night I came to that conclusion too. I 
found something in a Google search that indicates that one can only 
import text files into Writer. So today I will go back to the TextEditor 
app I already had and see what happens.


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On 1/12/2020 8:44 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,
So I have no problem saving a document as RTF, but you are correct, you can't 
open anything but plain text in Writer. Too bad, that seriously limits its 
functionality. Not sure what the developer was thinking here. I mean, who works 
with txt documents anymore!
Cheers,
Donna



On Jan 10, 2020, at 8:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   Perhaps if I could impose upon you, it might help me if you can tell me how 
you do it.

   Using Voice Dream Writer, what steps do you take to create or edit an rtf 
document? Do do all of it from the Voice Dream Writer on iCloud Drive?

   When I edit the document, I do not see a save option. Under the Export 
button I used the export to external destination option.

   Thanks much Donna.

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On 1/10/2020 3:24 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I'm not sure if I could open my windows edited file in writer. If I get some 
time this weekend, I'll try and re-test.
Donna

On Jan 10, 2020, at 4:59 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Hmm! Well I will try to figure things out this weekend.  On the iPhone I got 
to where if I open a file in either Pages or Writer it would open in iCloud 
Drive.

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On 1/10/2020 2:05 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,
I haven't had time to mess with this for a while, but no, I did not have that 
problem. I was able to open a file that had been edited in Windows.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jan 10, 2020, at 10:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   I was testing different things and was not looking in the app specific 
folder. But now a question. If say, on Windows, I edit an rtf file then try to 
view it on the iPhone, I get an error message saying it failed to import, file 
must be in plain text. This happened in both Voice Dream  Writer and Pages. 
Have you seen this too?

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On 1/9/2020 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hmm, not sure. Maybe try deleting Text Editor? You can always reinstall it.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   I was just working with Voice Dream Writer and Text Editor and find the 
former easier to use. Both apps are set up in iCloud Drive. If I open a 
document in iCloud Drive, it opens in Text Editor. How do I change that? Thanks.

   I am disappointed that Comic Sans MS is not in the list of fonts. Could be 
worse, right?

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On 1/7/2020 3:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I was traveling over the holidays, so I haven't done much with it, but yes. 
Also, VoiceDream works really well, too.
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Yes the more I do this the better. Are you still happy with that 99 cent 
text editor?

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On 1/7/2020 11:30 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

It gets easier once you get files into recents. Then you only see the files 
you've worked with within the app.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Donna,
   Ok I will have another go at this. Syncing is on but will verify that again. 
I find the Files app a bit overdone (too many things on the screen) but I will 
work with it. Thanks.

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On 1/7/2020 11:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi ET,
When you open text editor, it defaults to showing a list of recently opened 
files. But at the bottom of the screen, there are two buttons, recents, which 
is selected, and Browse. If you tap browse, you can browse and open files in 
iCloud drive.
In Voice Dream Writer, the easiest way is by opening the File Manager. All your 
recently opened files will show up there. (Note that you will want to enable 
iCloud syncing.) Alternatively, you can select Add Document, which is at the 
top left of the screen, right next to the File Manager butto

Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   If you edit a plain text document on the Mac then share it with 
Windows, you will lose carriage returns and it will all be on one line.


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On 1/12/2020 8:50 AM, Dave Carlson wrote:

Donna,
I’ll raise my hand. I still use text files all the time, in .txt format. 
Simple is golden, even if I am a dinosaur.


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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

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Interesting. Possibly I’ve encountered this, but most of my archival energy is 
on the Mac, and Windows is just a temporary repository.


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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

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and textedit plusplus knows enough to resolve the cr vs lf issues.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

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   You mean Notepad++?

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and textedit plusplus knows enough to resolve the cr vs lf issues.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 12, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Dave Carlson  
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Interesting. Possibly I’ve encountered this, but most of my archival 
energy is on the Mac, and Windows is just a temporary repository.



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Re: iCloud Drive and Editors

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Yes, I believe so.


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>> and textedit plusplus knows enough to resolve the cr vs lf issues.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> Interesting. Possibly I’ve encountered this, but most of my archival 
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>>> 
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