Re: speaker on iPhone
Hi guys. Yes, I did tell Apple Care people, both of them, that I was using VoiceOver. It's real weird that you say that about this being a VoiceOver feature because my sighted husband, at least before he updated to IOS 5 was annoyed sometimes when the phone went to speaker phone when he didn't want it to. The only problem I have with Apple Care people not knowing about this is that, even if it's a transfer issue, they should get some people who can answer VoiceOver questions. The other thing was, when I asked the second person if this was in fact VoiceOver thing, he didn't know. I only called because I wa hoping there was a simple thing I could do in the meantime to restore this feature back. Some time today, before I go to the Apple store on Wednesday, I'm going to see if I can find this information in the manual, to see if they took it out or not. I'm going to the store since I am going to North Park Mall anyway for something else. So I'll go and ask while I'm at it. They know me over there, and several of them because of me, have had to learn some VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, This might be a silly question but, did you explain to them that you are a voiceover user? Because the feature your talking about is only active with voiceover on. If they are not voiceover users, and don't know that you are, I doubt the person trying to help you would know this. In my opinion, its pretty obscure. I saw someone attack Apple customer service for this in a previous portion of this thread but, I couldn't kill them for something like this. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi JeffThat's what I have been doing for almost a year now and since I can't find it in the new manual any more I was wondering if it was taken away. Apple Care kept insisting that taking the phone away from the like that was not the normal operation. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: I believe the correct way to make the phone go into speaker phone is to take the phone away from your ear and hold it as if it was sitting on a table. I.e. flat. It then thinks it is resting on a table and will go into speaker phone mode. Hth, Jeff On 2011-12-19, at 6:55 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get the thing turned on. I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. Regards, Gigi nd speaker. This is a real pain with Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Esther and others, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaker on iPhone
Hi Pete. Thanks for your suggestions, and I will try them. I did try the rebooting already, but I hadn't done the others. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:23 PM, peter apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: this feature is still available. three things to try: 1 with the phone away from your face turn the volume up. often the speaker phone volume gets turned down. 2 wave a finger over the slot for the ear peace. occasionally something blocks the sensor. 3 reboot the phone. could be some sort of malfunction with code some where in the os. Good luck. Pete On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jessica wrote: Is this just supposed to automatically supposed to do this by default any time you take the phone away from you ear? If that's the case, how do you turn it off if you either realize you didn't want it on, or you did, and you're done with it? Sorry to vere this subject off topic, just was curious, seeing as how I plan to get the 4s soon, and could use some tips. - Original Message - From: Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: speaker on iPhone Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaker on iPhone
Hi Jessica. If you don't want it, you just put the phone back up to your ear. It's to stop immediately. If you want it, it's supposed to come on when you take the phone away from your face. As far as I know, this subject is not off topic. We have been discussing IOS 5 devices now for quite a while. If Cara didn't want us to talk about it, I guess she would have said by now. I am glad we are doing it, too, because I cant join another list. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Jessica stevies...@gmail.com wrote: Is this just supposed to automaticly supposed to do this by default any time you take the phone away from you ear? If that's the case, how do you turn it off if you either realize you didn't want it on, or you did, and you're done with it? Sorry to vere this subject off topic, just was curious, seeing as how I plan to get the 4s soon, and could use some tips. - Original Message - From: Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: speaker on iPhone Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get the thing turned on. I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. Regards, Gigi nd speaker. This is a real pain with Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaker on iPhone
WOw! I honestly don't get it either. I have had very good luck with Apple Care and pretty good luck with the folks in the store. Personally you can call it what you will, but I'm thrilled with 98% of the features, experience, and so forth with the APple products I own. I of course understand that all is not perfect, but let me make some observations here that are based on experience. 1. SOme of the problems people encounter are of their own making. In other words they simply have not learned how to use a feature or do not understand some aspect of the product. Hey not a negative statement, but instead just fact. SOmetimes this is just a result of not having read any information and only basing assumptions on what they have read on an e-mail list, which are not the only source of information. 2. Third-party apps can cause problems and may impact operations of the device. In fact several applications that are installed can mess things up. WHy? Hell who knows, but it simply is possible. I have seen this with folks who could not get the screen curtain to activate when VO was turned on, poor battery life, and so forth. Hey, Apple does the best it can to ensure apps do not cause problems, but reality is that you can have the perfect storm on your device. 3. User error. Yes people do make mistakes and that is apparent by some of the questions I have seen posted here and on the VI Phone list. Hey it is ok to be wrong and ok to make mistakes. However, it helps to have read the manual and understand how features work and what could affect the operation of a feature. I realize thread is more about the speakerphone; however, this applies across the board. Now as far as the speakerphone I may be recalling incorrectly, but it seems to me that you can toggle the speakerphone such that removing it from your face will keep the call on the earpiece and not the speakerphone. Of course I'd also ask the question if the phone is in a case and perhaps the proximity sensor is being blocked. Lots of possibilities. Oh and one final note, the APple Care folks are not actually APple employees unless something has changed recently. THey actually work for a vendor that provides support services. I only found that out because I had a chat with one of the support folks and he said something he probably should not have said and I got him to tell me. :) On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:22 PM, James Mannion wrote: I have never heard of or experienced this change. Taking it away from my ear has been the way to put it in speaker mode, even after SIRI arrived. Apple care doesn't even know how speaker phone works? Sometimes I really truely just don't get it. Their in store people know nothing half the time, their apple care doesn't even know basic stuff and more often than not they really don't know how to resolve your problem or even as much as you did when you called. They release things full of bugs in major functionality all the time and everyone worships their every move. I really truely love and appreciate the accessibility they provide, but I really just don't get this other stuff. On 12/19/11, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: I believe the correct way to make the phone go into speaker phone is to take the phone away from your ear and hold it as if it was sitting on a table. I.e. flat. It then thinks it is resting on a table and will go into speaker phone mode. Hth, Jeff On 2011-12-19, at 6:55 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get the thing turned on. I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. Regards, Gigi nd speaker. This is a real pain with Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Esther and others, My thumb drive is not in use when I try to eject it. COMMAND E is not working. What else can be going on? Ezzie - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:00:09 -1000 Subject:
Re: speaker on iPhone
Ok, after this, I guess I'm done with this subject here. My husband and I just discovered something which some of us need to know about. Apparently, the phone needs light to do this because I guess it's using the camera next to your face to know it's up there. After Kevin's suggestion, we cleaned the ear thing and also the camera lens. Then we did a test with screen curtain on. Guess what, if the light is low (which of course yours truly would never know about), then it doesn't work. My husband, after we turned screen curtain on, went into a dark place. It didn't work in the dark place, but did in the light. So, I guess you can, if you don't want it to work, just turn screen curtain on. If you do want it to work, turn it off so it can get some light from the screen. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2011, at 4:28 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: WOw! I honestly don't get it either. I have had very good luck with Apple Care and pretty good luck with the folks in the store. Personally you can call it what you will, but I'm thrilled with 98% of the features, experience, and so forth with the APple products I own. I of course understand that all is not perfect, but let me make some observations here that are based on experience. 1. SOme of the problems people encounter are of their own making. In other words they simply have not learned how to use a feature or do not understand some aspect of the product. Hey not a negative statement, but instead just fact. SOmetimes this is just a result of not having read any information and only basing assumptions on what they have read on an e-mail list, which are not the only source of information. 2. Third-party apps can cause problems and may impact operations of the device. In fact several applications that are installed can mess things up. WHy? Hell who knows, but it simply is possible. I have seen this with folks who could not get the screen curtain to activate when VO was turned on, poor battery life, and so forth. Hey, Apple does the best it can to ensure apps do not cause problems, but reality is that you can have the perfect storm on your device. 3. User error. Yes people do make mistakes and that is apparent by some of the questions I have seen posted here and on the VI Phone list. Hey it is ok to be wrong and ok to make mistakes. However, it helps to have read the manual and understand how features work and what could affect the operation of a feature. I realize thread is more about the speakerphone; however, this applies across the board. Now as far as the speakerphone I may be recalling incorrectly, but it seems to me that you can toggle the speakerphone such that removing it from your face will keep the call on the earpiece and not the speakerphone. Of course I'd also ask the question if the phone is in a case and perhaps the proximity sensor is being blocked. Lots of possibilities. Oh and one final note, the APple Care folks are not actually APple employees unless something has changed recently. THey actually work for a vendor that provides support services. I only found that out because I had a chat with one of the support folks and he said something he probably should not have said and I got him to tell me. :) On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:22 PM, James Mannion wrote: I have never heard of or experienced this change. Taking it away from -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaker on iPhone
Hi, this is weird. The proximity sensor has nothing to do with light. You can be in a pitch black room, take the phone from your face, and it should switch to speaker phone if you are using voiceover. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 20, 2011, at 5:48 AM, Gigi wrote: Ok, after this, I guess I'm done with this subject here. My husband and I just discovered something which some of us need to know about. Apparently, the phone needs light to do this because I guess it's using the camera next to your face to know it's up there. After Kevin's suggestion, we cleaned the ear thing and also the camera lens. Then we did a test with screen curtain on. Guess what, if the light is low (which of course yours truly would never know about), then it doesn't work. My husband, after we turned screen curtain on, went into a dark place. It didn't work in the dark place, but did in the light. So, I guess you can, if you don't want it to work, just turn screen curtain on. If you do want it to work, turn it off so it can get some light from the screen. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2011, at 4:28 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: WOw! I honestly don't get it either. I have had very good luck with Apple Care and pretty good luck with the folks in the store. Personally you can call it what you will, but I'm thrilled with 98% of the features, experience, and so forth with the APple products I own. I of course understand that all is not perfect, but let me make some observations here that are based on experience. 1. SOme of the problems people encounter are of their own making. In other words they simply have not learned how to use a feature or do not understand some aspect of the product. Hey not a negative statement, but instead just fact. SOmetimes this is just a result of not having read any information and only basing assumptions on what they have read on an e-mail list, which are not the only source of information. 2. Third-party apps can cause problems and may impact operations of the device. In fact several applications that are installed can mess things up. WHy? Hell who knows, but it simply is possible. I have seen this with folks who could not get the screen curtain to activate when VO was turned on, poor battery life, and so forth. Hey, Apple does the best it can to ensure apps do not cause problems, but reality is that you can have the perfect storm on your device. 3. User error. Yes people do make mistakes and that is apparent by some of the questions I have seen posted here and on the VI Phone list. Hey it is ok to be wrong and ok to make mistakes. However, it helps to have read the manual and understand how features work and what could affect the operation of a feature. I realize thread is more about the speakerphone; however, this applies across the board. Now as far as the speakerphone I may be recalling incorrectly, but it seems to me that you can toggle the speakerphone such that removing it from your face will keep the call on the earpiece and not the speakerphone. Of course I'd also ask the question if the phone is in a case and perhaps the proximity sensor is being blocked. Lots of possibilities. Oh and one final note, the APple Care folks are not actually APple employees unless something has changed recently. THey actually work for a vendor that provides support services. I only found that out because I had a chat with one of the support folks and he said something he probably should not have said and I got him to tell me. :) On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:22 PM, James Mannion wrote: I have never heard of or experienced this change. Taking it away from -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaker on iPhone
I believe the correct way to make the phone go into speaker phone is to take the phone away from your ear and hold it as if it was sitting on a table. I.e. flat. It then thinks it is resting on a table and will go into speaker phone mode. Hth, Jeff On 2011-12-19, at 6:55 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get the thing turned on. I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. Regards, Gigi nd speaker. This is a real pain with Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Esther and others, My thumb drive is not in use when I try to eject it. COMMAND E is not working. What else can be going on? Ezzie - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:00:09 -1000 Subject: Ejecting a USB flash drive with a keyboard shortcut [was Re: MBPKeyboard] Hi Ezzie and Others, The usual reason that a drive fails to eject is that it is still in use. This could be either because a copy or write operation is still going on and transferring data, or because you have navigated into the file structure of the drive in Finder to query contents. I do find that Command-E works to eject drives provided they are not in use, but there's nothing wrong with following either Ricardo's method with the context menu or Gigi's checks that the device is not active. I've retitled the subject line to better reflect the content of the discussion. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:32, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I guess I'm old fashion. lol. I prefer to bring up the context menu with VO shift M and just press enter on eject. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Y'all. Command E does not always work for me, especially on thumb drives. I was told by Apple that if you are writing to the drive and it gets ejected too soon, you can mess up your thumb drive. Therefore, these days I always check to see if my drive is on my list of active devices before I take it out. Regards, Gigi On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi Ezzie, Command+E should eject the drive. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ezzie bueno Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:55 PM To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MBP Keyboard Hello list: When I try and eject a USB flash drive, it will not eject. I know I've got it selected. However, when I eject one on my sister's account, it ejects properly. Is there a setting I may have modified on my account that I shouldn't have? Thanks, Ezzie Ez Bueno Sent from my BrailleNote Apex Skype: sillyez Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sillyez Google Talk: sill...@sillyez.com Google Plus: ezziebu...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: speaker on iPhone
I have never heard of or experienced this change. Taking it away from my ear has been the way to put it in speaker mode, even after SIRI arrived. Apple care doesn't even know how speaker phone works? Sometimes I really truely just don't get it. Their in store people know nothing half the time, their apple care doesn't even know basic stuff and more often than not they really don't know how to resolve your problem or even as much as you did when you called. They release things full of bugs in major functionality all the time and everyone worships their every move. I really truely love and appreciate the accessibility they provide, but I really just don't get this other stuff. On 12/19/11, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: I believe the correct way to make the phone go into speaker phone is to take the phone away from your ear and hold it as if it was sitting on a table. I.e. flat. It then thinks it is resting on a table and will go into speaker phone mode. Hth, Jeff On 2011-12-19, at 6:55 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get the thing turned on. I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. Regards, Gigi nd speaker. This is a real pain with Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Esther and others, My thumb drive is not in use when I try to eject it. COMMAND E is not working. What else can be going on? Ezzie - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:00:09 -1000 Subject: Ejecting a USB flash drive with a keyboard shortcut [was Re: MBPKeyboard] Hi Ezzie and Others, The usual reason that a drive fails to eject is that it is still in use. This could be either because a copy or write operation is still going on and transferring data, or because you have navigated into the file structure of the drive in Finder to query contents. I do find that Command-E works to eject drives provided they are not in use, but there's nothing wrong with following either Ricardo's method with the context menu or Gigi's checks that the device is not active. I've retitled the subject line to better reflect the content of the discussion. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:32, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I guess I'm old fashion. lol. I prefer to bring up the context menu with VO shift M and just press enter on eject. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Y'all. Command E does not always work for me, especially on thumb drives. I was told by Apple that if you are writing to the drive and it gets ejected too soon, you can mess up your thumb drive. Therefore, these days I always check to see if my drive is on my list of active devices before I take it out. Regards, Gigi On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi Ezzie, Command+E should eject the drive. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ezzie bueno Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:55 PM To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MBP Keyboard Hello list: When I try and eject a USB flash drive, it will not eject. I know I've got it selected. However, when I eject one on my sister's account, it ejects properly. Is there a setting I may have modified on my account that I shouldn't have? Thanks, Ezzie Ez Bueno Sent from my BrailleNote Apex Skype: sillyez Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sillyez Google Talk: sill...@sillyez.com Google Plus: ezziebu...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
Re: speaker on iPhone
Hi JeffThat's what I have been doing for almost a year now and since I can't find it in the new manual any more I was wondering if it was taken away. Apple Care kept insisting that taking the phone away from the like that was not the normal operation. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: I believe the correct way to make the phone go into speaker phone is to take the phone away from your ear and hold it as if it was sitting on a table. I.e. flat. It then thinks it is resting on a table and will go into speaker phone mode. Hth, Jeff On 2011-12-19, at 6:55 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get the thing turned on. I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. Regards, Gigi nd speaker. This is a real pain with Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Esther and others, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaker on iPhone
Is this just supposed to automaticly supposed to do this by default any time you take the phone away from you ear? If that's the case, how do you turn it off if you either realize you didn't want it on, or you did, and you're done with it? Sorry to vere this subject off topic, just was curious, seeing as how I plan to get the 4s soon, and could use some tips. - Original Message - From: Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: speaker on iPhone Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get the thing turned on. I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. Regards, Gigi nd speaker. This is a real pain with Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Esther and others, My thumb drive is not in use when I try to eject it. COMMAND E is not working. What else can be going on? Ezzie - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:00:09 -1000 Subject: Ejecting a USB flash drive with a keyboard shortcut [was Re: MBPKeyboard] Hi Ezzie and Others, The usual reason that a drive fails to eject is that it is still in use. This could be either because a copy or write operation is still going on and transferring data, or because you have navigated into the file structure of the drive in Finder to query contents. I do find that Command-E works to eject drives provided they are not in use, but there's nothing wrong with following either Ricardo's method with the context menu or Gigi's checks that the device is not active. I've retitled the subject line to better reflect the content of the discussion. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:32, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I guess I'm old fashion. lol. I prefer to bring up the context menu with VO shift M and just press enter on eject. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Y'all. Command E does not always work for me, especially on thumb drives. I was told by Apple that if you are writing to the drive and it gets ejected too soon, you can mess up your thumb drive. Therefore, these days I always check to see if my drive is on my list of active devices before I take it out. Regards, Gigi On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi Ezzie, Command+E should eject the drive. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ezzie bueno Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:55 PM To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MBP Keyboard Hello list: When I try and eject a USB flash drive, it will not eject. I know I've got it selected. However, when I eject one on my sister's account, it ejects properly. Is there a setting I may have modified on my account that I shouldn't have? Thanks, Ezzie Ez Bueno Sent from my BrailleNote Apex Skype: sillyez Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sillyez Google Talk: sill...@sillyez.com Google Plus: ezziebu...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: speaker on iPhone
Try rebooting your phone. Hold the Sleep/Wake button for 7 sec and then tap the Slide to Power Off button. Wait for a minute or so and then hold the sleep/wake button agian. I've encountered a similar problem with my 4S and my old 3GS. It seems that the accelerometer needs to be whipped into position every once in a while for speaker phone to take. Try moving it away from your face quickly. Kevin On 2011-12-19, at 8:01 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote: I believe the correct way to make the phone go into speaker phone is to take the phone away from your ear and hold it as if it was sitting on a table. I.e. flat. It then thinks it is resting on a table and will go into speaker phone mode. Hth, Jeff On 2011-12-19, at 6:55 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get the thing turned on. I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. Regards, Gigi nd speaker. This is a real pain with Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Esther and others, My thumb drive is not in use when I try to eject it. COMMAND E is not working. What else can be going on? Ezzie - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:00:09 -1000 Subject: Ejecting a USB flash drive with a keyboard shortcut [was Re: MBPKeyboard] Hi Ezzie and Others, The usual reason that a drive fails to eject is that it is still in use. This could be either because a copy or write operation is still going on and transferring data, or because you have navigated into the file structure of the drive in Finder to query contents. I do find that Command-E works to eject drives provided they are not in use, but there's nothing wrong with following either Ricardo's method with the context menu or Gigi's checks that the device is not active. I've retitled the subject line to better reflect the content of the discussion. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:32, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I guess I'm old fashion. lol. I prefer to bring up the context menu with VO shift M and just press enter on eject. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Y'all. Command E does not always work for me, especially on thumb drives. I was told by Apple that if you are writing to the drive and it gets ejected too soon, you can mess up your thumb drive. Therefore, these days I always check to see if my drive is on my list of active devices before I take it out. Regards, Gigi On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi Ezzie, Command+E should eject the drive. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ezzie bueno Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:55 PM To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MBP Keyboard Hello list: When I try and eject a USB flash drive, it will not eject. I know I've got it selected. However, when I eject one on my sister's account, it ejects properly. Is there a setting I may have modified on my account that I shouldn't have? Thanks, Ezzie Ez Bueno Sent from my BrailleNote Apex Skype: sillyez Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sillyez Google Talk: sill...@sillyez.com Google Plus: ezziebu...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email
Re: speaker on iPhone
this feature is still available. three things to try: 1 with the phone away from your face turn the volume up. often the speaker phone volume gets turned down. 2 wave a finger over the slot for the ear peace. occasionally something blocks the sensor. 3 reboot the phone. could be some sort of malfunction with code some where in the os. Good luck. Pete On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jessica wrote: Is this just supposed to automatically supposed to do this by default any time you take the phone away from you ear? If that's the case, how do you turn it off if you either realize you didn't want it on, or you did, and you're done with it? Sorry to vere this subject off topic, just was curious, seeing as how I plan to get the 4s soon, and could use some tips. - Original Message - From: Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: speaker on iPhone Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get the thing turned on. I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. Regards, Gigi nd speaker. This is a real pain with Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Esther and others, My thumb drive is not in use when I try to eject it. COMMAND E is not working. What else can be going on? Ezzie - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:00:09 -1000 Subject: Ejecting a USB flash drive with a keyboard shortcut [was Re: MBPKeyboard] Hi Ezzie and Others, The usual reason that a drive fails to eject is that it is still in use. This could be either because a copy or write operation is still going on and transferring data, or because you have navigated into the file structure of the drive in Finder to query contents. I do find that Command-E works to eject drives provided they are not in use, but there's nothing wrong with following either Ricardo's method with the context menu or Gigi's checks that the device is not active. I've retitled the subject line to better reflect the content of the discussion. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:32, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I guess I'm old fashion. lol. I prefer to bring up the context menu with VO shift M and just press enter on eject. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Y'all. Command E does not always work for me, especially on thumb drives. I was told by Apple that if you are writing to the drive and it gets ejected too soon, you can mess up your thumb drive. Therefore, these days I always check to see if my drive is on my list of active devices before I take it out. Regards, Gigi On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi Ezzie, Command+E should eject the drive. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ezzie bueno Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:55 PM To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MBP Keyboard Hello list: When I try and eject a USB flash drive, it will not eject. I know I've got it selected. However, when I eject one on my sister's account, it ejects properly. Is there a setting I may have modified on my account that I shouldn't have? Thanks, Ezzie Ez Bueno Sent from my BrailleNote Apex Skype: sillyez Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sillyez Google Talk: sill...@sillyez.com Google Plus: ezziebu...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Re: speaker on iPhone
Hi, This might be a silly question but, did you explain to them that you are a voiceover user? Because the feature your talking about is only active with voiceover on. If they are not voiceover users, and don't know that you are, I doubt the person trying to help you would know this. In my opinion, its pretty obscure. I saw someone attack Apple customer service for this in a previous portion of this thread but, I couldn't kill them for something like this. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi JeffThat's what I have been doing for almost a year now and since I can't find it in the new manual any more I was wondering if it was taken away. Apple Care kept insisting that taking the phone away from the like that was not the normal operation. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Jeff Berwick mailingli...@berwick.name wrote: I believe the correct way to make the phone go into speaker phone is to take the phone away from your ear and hold it as if it was sitting on a table. I.e. flat. It then thinks it is resting on a table and will go into speaker phone mode. Hth, Jeff On 2011-12-19, at 6:55 PM, Gigi wrote: Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get the thing turned on. I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. Regards, Gigi nd speaker. This is a real pain with Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Esther and others, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.