Re: Some more Questions
Hi! Search google for this. I think there are workarounds. /A 27 jan 2015 kl. 16:01 skrev Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com: Hello, Wondeful suggestion, though with Bootcamp, you'll have to repartition the drive, wich IMHO is overkill for this situation. So, it looks like VMware is the easiest way to accomplish this task. Not to mention, its a lot quicker. That's if Linux is even supported in a Bootcamp environment. As I recall, its designed to aid the installation of Windows, and we don't know if it modifies the system EFI partition. Simply too many unknowns. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com mailto:shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: What about just install it to bootcam instead? How often that you need to run Linux and Mac OS side by side... Just my thoughts Regards Joanne On 28/01/2015, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello again, FFirst of all, thanks for all the responses to my other questions. Really helped a lot I was thinking of trying to get a full-blown GNOME desktop environment running on this machine, as I am familiar with that environment. Doing some research, I can see that their is an open source version of the Xorg X11 Window system that I can install. Ideally, I would love the greatest and latest stuff viable from the GNOME Project which at present, is Gnome 3.4.X. However, I think we have some problems. If I'm wrong in these assumptions, feel free to correct me where necessary. If memory serves, GNOME 3.x has some dependencies on systems, which is Linux-specific. That is, their is at present, no BSD-compatible system implementation. I don't believe that system needs to be running, however I do believe that core system library functions are now dependencies. Does it make sense to install a copy of VMware Fusion and install a copy of Debian into the guest VM? If I do go this route, is their anything I need to be concerned about in Fusion specifically? Note that I have a license for VMware Workstation. Will I have to purchase an additional license for Fusion? Second question Does it make sense to install the GNU-specific tools? In my opinion, they are simply just better than the implementations provided by BSD. I could install them out of the way, into for example, /usr/local/bin, as that way, it won't conflict with software that is under version control via whatever package management system that OS X uses to manage updates. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Some more Questions
While I haven't installed Linux under VMWare, I would think that would be easier than doing it via bootcamp. A lot of the setup for linux seems to revolve around partitioning and bootup setup, usually assuming that Linux is the only thing running on the box. While it's possible to set things up just right to make a multi-boot machine, a virtual machine gives the appearance that it's a dedicated piece of hardware, so no accidentally mangling the wrong partition and such. You also have the advantage that you can access online docs and such on the mac side and then just flip to vmware to try stuff rather than going all-in with a boot cycle into Linux. Plus you can use vmware's snapshots to keep a working instance to fall back in case the experiment fails. Worst case is you just take the virtual machine file and put it in the trash. To add to the fun, you can even find pre-installed unix virtual machines which you can just download and use. CB On 1/28/15 2:28 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Search google for this. I think there are workarounds. /A 27 jan 2015 kl. 16:01 skrev Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com mailto:ehe...@gmail.com: Hello, Wondeful suggestion, though with Bootcamp, you'll have to repartition the drive, wich IMHO is overkill for this situation. So, it looks like VMware is the easiest way to accomplish this task. Not to mention, its a lot quicker. That's if Linux is even supported in a Bootcamp environment. As I recall, its designed to aid the installation of Windows, and we don't know if it modifies the system EFI partition. Simply too many unknowns. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com mailto:shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: What about just install it to bootcam instead? How often that you need to run Linux and Mac OS side by side... Just my thoughts Regards Joanne On 28/01/2015, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com mailto:ehe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello again, FFirst of all, thanks for all the responses to my other questions. Really helped a lot I was thinking of trying to get a full-blown GNOME desktop environment running on this machine, as I am familiar with that environment. Doing some research, I can see that their is an open source version of the Xorg X11 Window system that I can install. Ideally, I would love the greatest and latest stuff viable from the GNOME Project which at present, is Gnome 3.4.X. However, I think we have some problems. If I'm wrong in these assumptions, feel free to correct me where necessary. If memory serves, GNOME 3.x has some dependencies on systems, which is Linux-specific. That is, their is at present, no BSD-compatible system implementation. I don't believe that system needs to be running, however I do believe that core system library functions are now dependencies. Does it make sense to install a copy of VMware Fusion and install a copy of Debian into the guest VM? If I do go this route, is their anything I need to be concerned about in Fusion specifically? Note that I have a license for VMware Workstation. Will I have to purchase an additional license for Fusion? Second question Does it make sense to install the GNU-specific tools? In my opinion, they are simply just better than the implementations provided by BSD. I could install them out of the way, into for example, /usr/local/bin, as that way, it won't conflict with software that is under version control via whatever package management system that OS X uses to manage updates. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries
Some more Questions
Hello again, FFirst of all, thanks for all the responses to my other questions. Really helped a lot I was thinking of trying to get a full-blown GNOME desktop environment running on this machine, as I am familiar with that environment. Doing some research, I can see that their is an open source version of the Xorg X11 Window system that I can install. Ideally, I would love the greatest and latest stuff viable from the GNOME Project which at present, is Gnome 3.4.X. However, I think we have some problems. If I'm wrong in these assumptions, feel free to correct me where necessary. If memory serves, GNOME 3.x has some dependencies on systems, which is Linux-specific. That is, their is at present, no BSD-compatible system implementation. I don't believe that system needs to be running, however I do believe that core system library functions are now dependencies. Does it make sense to install a copy of VMware Fusion and install a copy of Debian into the guest VM? If I do go this route, is their anything I need to be concerned about in Fusion specifically? Note that I have a license for VMware Workstation. Will I have to purchase an additional license for Fusion? Second question Does it make sense to install the GNU-specific tools? In my opinion, they are simply just better than the implementations provided by BSD. I could install them out of the way, into for example, /usr/local/bin, as that way, it won't conflict with software that is under version control via whatever package management system that OS X uses to manage updates. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Some more Questions
What about just install it to bootcam instead? How often that you need to run Linux and Mac OS side by side... Just my thoughts Regards Joanne On 28/01/2015, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello again, FFirst of all, thanks for all the responses to my other questions. Really helped a lot I was thinking of trying to get a full-blown GNOME desktop environment running on this machine, as I am familiar with that environment. Doing some research, I can see that their is an open source version of the Xorg X11 Window system that I can install. Ideally, I would love the greatest and latest stuff viable from the GNOME Project which at present, is Gnome 3.4.X. However, I think we have some problems. If I'm wrong in these assumptions, feel free to correct me where necessary. If memory serves, GNOME 3.x has some dependencies on systems, which is Linux-specific. That is, their is at present, no BSD-compatible system implementation. I don't believe that system needs to be running, however I do believe that core system library functions are now dependencies. Does it make sense to install a copy of VMware Fusion and install a copy of Debian into the guest VM? If I do go this route, is their anything I need to be concerned about in Fusion specifically? Note that I have a license for VMware Workstation. Will I have to purchase an additional license for Fusion? Second question Does it make sense to install the GNU-specific tools? In my opinion, they are simply just better than the implementations provided by BSD. I could install them out of the way, into for example, /usr/local/bin, as that way, it won't conflict with software that is under version control via whatever package management system that OS X uses to manage updates. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Some more Questions
Hi, other listers please correct me if i'm wrong. my understanding is that you can install any OS to bootcam. On 28/01/2015, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Wondeful suggestion, though with Bootcamp, you'll have to repartition the drive, wich IMHO is overkill for this situation. So, it looks like VMware is the easiest way to accomplish this task. Not to mention, its a lot quicker. That's if Linux is even supported in a Bootcamp environment. As I recall, its designed to aid the installation of Windows, and we don't know if it modifies the system EFI partition. Simply too many unknowns. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: What about just install it to bootcam instead? How often that you need to run Linux and Mac OS side by side... Just my thoughts Regards Joanne On 28/01/2015, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello again, FFirst of all, thanks for all the responses to my other questions. Really helped a lot I was thinking of trying to get a full-blown GNOME desktop environment running on this machine, as I am familiar with that environment. Doing some research, I can see that their is an open source version of the Xorg X11 Window system that I can install. Ideally, I would love the greatest and latest stuff viable from the GNOME Project which at present, is Gnome 3.4.X. However, I think we have some problems. If I'm wrong in these assumptions, feel free to correct me where necessary. If memory serves, GNOME 3.x has some dependencies on systems, which is Linux-specific. That is, their is at present, no BSD-compatible system implementation. I don't believe that system needs to be running, however I do believe that core system library functions are now dependencies. Does it make sense to install a copy of VMware Fusion and install a copy of Debian into the guest VM? If I do go this route, is their anything I need to be concerned about in Fusion specifically? Note that I have a license for VMware Workstation. Will I have to purchase an additional license for Fusion? Second question Does it make sense to install the GNU-specific tools? In my opinion, they are simply just better than the implementations provided by BSD. I could install them out of the way, into for example, /usr/local/bin, as that way, it won't conflict with software that is under version control via whatever package management system that OS X uses to manage updates. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Some more Questions
Hello, Wondeful suggestion, though with Bootcamp, you'll have to repartition the drive, wich IMHO is overkill for this situation. So, it looks like VMware is the easiest way to accomplish this task. Not to mention, its a lot quicker. That's if Linux is even supported in a Bootcamp environment. As I recall, its designed to aid the installation of Windows, and we don't know if it modifies the system EFI partition. Simply too many unknowns. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote: What about just install it to bootcam instead? How often that you need to run Linux and Mac OS side by side... Just my thoughts Regards Joanne On 28/01/2015, Erik Heil ehe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello again, FFirst of all, thanks for all the responses to my other questions. Really helped a lot I was thinking of trying to get a full-blown GNOME desktop environment running on this machine, as I am familiar with that environment. Doing some research, I can see that their is an open source version of the Xorg X11 Window system that I can install. Ideally, I would love the greatest and latest stuff viable from the GNOME Project which at present, is Gnome 3.4.X. However, I think we have some problems. If I'm wrong in these assumptions, feel free to correct me where necessary. If memory serves, GNOME 3.x has some dependencies on systems, which is Linux-specific. That is, their is at present, no BSD-compatible system implementation. I don't believe that system needs to be running, however I do believe that core system library functions are now dependencies. Does it make sense to install a copy of VMware Fusion and install a copy of Debian into the guest VM? If I do go this route, is their anything I need to be concerned about in Fusion specifically? Note that I have a license for VMware Workstation. Will I have to purchase an additional license for Fusion? Second question Does it make sense to install the GNU-specific tools? In my opinion, they are simply just better than the implementations provided by BSD. I could install them out of the way, into for example, /usr/local/bin, as that way, it won't conflict with software that is under version control via whatever package management system that OS X uses to manage updates. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
some more questions
I have a really major question of sorts, well 2. How do i uninstall apps from the mac store that i do not want? I’m not seeing uninstall buttons from it anywhere that i can find. Also i’ve got apps that have downloaded to my downloads folder. I’m assuming i need to actually move them to the applications folder, but how do i accomplish this? BTW I seem to be getting along nicely with my mac. I’ve found a couple insanely useful apps some of which i found on applevis .:) I’ve found macjournal useful the most though. I’ve got a few things I need to track journal wise and i like the fact that i can just create multiple journals as needed. The app was expensive but worth the price. I also found an app called my medical. it’s fully accessible as far as i can tell. If someone wants to check it out and report it’s accessibility on apples they should do so. I don’t have an account to report it/fill out info on it and no time till after new years. The hi lights of my medical is that i’m on over 15 different medications, i’m in the hospital at least once every couple months and i go by ambulance. Once i’m done entering all of the data i should just be able to hand my macbook to the proper people so they can pull the info out of the app. We’ll see just how useful it is in time. My final question is this. I’m looking for good and free bible study apps so if anyone has ideas out there i’d appreciate it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: some more questions
1. To uninstall an app you generally just have to delete it from our application folder. There are utilities like clean my Mac or App Delete which offer a more system wide delete service if you require but in general deleting most apps will be fine. 2. Similarly to install a downloaded app simply copy the app file into the application folder. Often these apps will appear in a dmg file which you need to open to access the app file. The exception to the above is those app which tend to be ported across from Windows which have names like Flash install.app. Any app name with install in its name will need to be run like a Windows style program. These tend also to be best deleted with a utility like app delete or clean my mac. David Griffith On 2 Dec 2014, at 06:25, deedra waters dee...@the-brannons.com wrote: I have a really major question of sorts, well 2. How do i uninstall apps from the mac store that i do not want? I’m not seeing uninstall buttons from it anywhere that i can find. Also i’ve got apps that have downloaded to my downloads folder. I’m assuming i need to actually move them to the applications folder, but how do i accomplish this? BTW I seem to be getting along nicely with my mac. I’ve found a couple insanely useful apps some of which i found on applevis .:) I’ve found macjournal useful the most though. I’ve got a few things I need to track journal wise and i like the fact that i can just create multiple journals as needed. The app was expensive but worth the price. I also found an app called my medical. it’s fully accessible as far as i can tell. If someone wants to check it out and report it’s accessibility on apples they should do so. I don’t have an account to report it/fill out info on it and no time till after new years. The hi lights of my medical is that i’m on over 15 different medications, i’m in the hospital at least once every couple months and i go by ambulance. Once i’m done entering all of the data i should just be able to hand my macbook to the proper people so they can pull the info out of the app. We’ll see just how useful it is in time. My final question is this. I’m looking for good and free bible study apps so if anyone has ideas out there i’d appreciate it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: some more questions
David, Thanks for this. I suspected that that was how adding/removing apps worked but when i was googling, i saw some post that said something like you needed to get an uninstall link or something Either way thanks! On Dec 1, 2014, at 11:03 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: 1. To uninstall an app you generally just have to delete it from our application folder. There are utilities like clean my Mac or App Delete which offer a more system wide delete service if you require but in general deleting most apps will be fine. 2. Similarly to install a downloaded app simply copy the app file into the application folder. Often these apps will appear in a dmg file which you need to open to access the app file. The exception to the above is those app which tend to be ported across from Windows which have names like Flash install.app. Any app name with install in its name will need to be run like a Windows style program. These tend also to be best deleted with a utility like app delete or clean my mac. David Griffith On 2 Dec 2014, at 06:25, deedra waters dee...@the-brannons.com wrote: I have a really major question of sorts, well 2. How do i uninstall apps from the mac store that i do not want? I’m not seeing uninstall buttons from it anywhere that i can find. Also i’ve got apps that have downloaded to my downloads folder. I’m assuming i need to actually move them to the applications folder, but how do i accomplish this? BTW I seem to be getting along nicely with my mac. I’ve found a couple insanely useful apps some of which i found on applevis .:) I’ve found macjournal useful the most though. I’ve got a few things I need to track journal wise and i like the fact that i can just create multiple journals as needed. The app was expensive but worth the price. I also found an app called my medical. it’s fully accessible as far as i can tell. If someone wants to check it out and report it’s accessibility on apples they should do so. I don’t have an account to report it/fill out info on it and no time till after new years. The hi lights of my medical is that i’m on over 15 different medications, i’m in the hospital at least once every couple months and i go by ambulance. Once i’m done entering all of the data i should just be able to hand my macbook to the proper people so they can pull the info out of the app. We’ll see just how useful it is in time. My final question is this. I’m looking for good and free bible study apps so if anyone has ideas out there i’d appreciate it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Some more questions about Windows 7 on the Mac
I've had Windows xp running in vmware fusion on my macbook pro. Now i have just purchased Windows 7 and it will be here on Friday. I did follow the earlier bootcamp thread but I have some additional questions. 1. Can i install Windows 7 with vmware fusion to initially play with it and then reactivate it after I install it using bootcamp as long as I'm not going to try to use the same key both with vmware and its separate partition once I have it installed separately? 2. Somebody mentioned importing an installation from vmware to the bootcamp installation. is this possible and does it require less sighted help? Are there other caveats of which I should be aware if I decide to do that? 3. If i want to use my multi-link bluetoot keyboard with Windows in the bootcamp partition, can I do this? I realize this will be a full-fledged Windows installation but I wondered if the drivers involved include bluetooth support. 4. When I go to install Window-eyes in the bootcamp Windows partition and windoweyes says it has to reboot to start the install, will it automatically restart in Windows or will I have to use the option key to make sure it does so if I have Macos as the default? Maybe I should just make Windows the default while i'm doing the windoweyes install just to keep things less complicated? I won't need to hurry to install windoweyes as I also have System Access. Thanks. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
Olivia: Bottom line concerning the Stream and the Mac... You will be able to do everything with the Stream, except authorize it for Audible. Audible works very very nicely on the iPod Touch, iPhone, and iPad. I believe you have two of these. The NLS player is really worth getting though. I works great with the Mac. I downloaded 20 books and put them on it yesterday. The Stream really is a nice device and if you can get a discount through GDB, you should go or it. I believe you will enjoy it. Maybe you can get a friend to help you authorize it for Audible, on a windows machine if that is a deal breaker for you. On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:24 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: Thanks for the info! That helps :) Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Frank Ventura wrote: Simple answers: 1) Just put the SD card into the stream and power it on and let the stream take care of the rest. 2) Yes, different folders on the card 3) Yes, if you have finder preferences set to show volumes Hth Frank -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: some more questions about streams and macs Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: some more questions about streams and macs
I have both an IPod touch and a victor stream, and I use both. I find the stream great at night because of it's sleep timer. I can set it and it turns off if I've fallen asleep. My Ipod doesn't or at least I haven't found the function to allow it to auto switch off. The only problem I really have with the victor stream, is that it at least mine which is about a year old, is limited to 16gig sd card storage. So my Ipod has more storage capacity. But the stream plays more book formats than the Ipod. Each has it's good and bad points. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2010 1:57 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: some more questions about streams and macs Wonderful! Thank you for the help! :) Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:47 AM, Chris G wrote: Answers below. On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:26:06 -0700 Olivia Norman olivianor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? You insert the card into the stream and it creates the folders for you. 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? Yes, you put them in the $VRMusic folder. 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. This is correct. You would see the streams folders through the finder. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
Right, but, most people who live in the US are eligible for the free NLS player which does the job nicely. the only down side to that free player is that it's quite large. This was done intentionally to facilitate people who have various physical disabilities as well as those who are elderly and not used to small devices. However, the speaker on the NLS player as well as the battery life are wonderful. if I would have had this player when I bought my stream, I wouldn't have bothered. Now, that its not fully compatible with the MAc, I don't think I would even recommend it. there are much better ways of playing audio than a victor stream. On Jun 14, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Mary Otten wrote: You can't play library of congress talking books on an Ipod. so if you read a lot of those books and magazines, you'd need some sort of something to play them on, such as the stream, right? Mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: some more questions about streams and macs
Simple answers: 1) Just put the SD card into the stream and power it on and let the stream take care of the rest. 2) Yes, different folders on the card 3) Yes, if you have finder preferences set to show volumes Hth Frank -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: some more questions about streams and macs Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
Thanks for the info! That helps :) Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Frank Ventura wrote: Simple answers: 1) Just put the SD card into the stream and power it on and let the stream take care of the rest. 2) Yes, different folders on the card 3) Yes, if you have finder preferences set to show volumes Hth Frank -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: some more questions about streams and macs Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
Answers below. On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:26:06 -0700 Olivia Norman olivianor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? You insert the card into the stream and it creates the folders for you. 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? Yes, you put them in the $VRMusic folder. 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. This is correct. You would see the streams folders through the finder. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
Hi Olivia, I think I can help you. I say think very lightly. I used to be a Stream user who used Windows, and obviously now have switched to the Mac. Okay let me see if I remember the first question, to format the SD card, you do it on the Stream directly. This is accomplished by pressing the 7 key on the numpad a few times till you hear format SD card. It will ask you to confirm by pressing the pound key. Once you press it, it will say formatting SD card and report back when the format is complete. Once that is done, you will have folders like VR audible, VR music etc. Yes, you can place talking books on the same card as music. You just place the talking books in to the VR DTB folder. I'm switching from the stream to the Ipod on my Iphone, I think the largest card the Stream can handle is a 16GB but I could be wrong. It is much faster if you were to get a Stream to copy content via the card reader than the Stream's USB port itself. The Stream shows up on the desktop once you insert the SD card in to a card reader. You just hit command O to open like normal and all the folders are there. I hope this has helped you. The only thing I'm unsure about is the Audible authorization. That might have to be done on a Windows machine, since the Audible version on the Mac assumes you are using Itunes on an Ipod. Well, I hope I have helped. Have a wonderful day. Thank you for your help on the Iphone, it is much appreciated. Allison On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:26 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: some more questions about streams and macs
I As a stream user I would say this. Remember you will also have to pay for a storage card. That being the case, if I didn't have one I would regard any Apple device with 16 GB, or even better 32 or the incredible 64 GB of storage as a better bet. Synchronising will be much easier and I can't think of anything the stream can do that Apples can't provided you have a Daisy player app. The media player control knocks spots of anything in any gadget apart from the Stream, and in some ways is much better. Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris G Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:47 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: some more questions about streams and macs Answers below. On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:26:06 -0700 Olivia Norman olivianor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? You insert the card into the stream and it creates the folders for you. 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? Yes, you put them in the $VRMusic folder. 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. This is correct. You would see the streams folders through the finder. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
This is very helpful. Thanks! :) Now, I'm just trying to figure out if this device is worth the money. I've heard both mac and PC users who are blind say that it's the best money they spent on an AT product, so I'm trying to figure out if I really need it given the great Apple stuff I have. Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs On Jun 14, 2010, at 4:42 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Olivia, I think I can help you. I say think very lightly. I used to be a Stream user who used Windows, and obviously now have switched to the Mac. Okay let me see if I remember the first question, to format the SD card, you do it on the Stream directly. This is accomplished by pressing the 7 key on the numpad a few times till you hear format SD card. It will ask you to confirm by pressing the pound key. Once you press it, it will say formatting SD card and report back when the format is complete. Once that is done, you will have folders like VR audible, VR music etc. Yes, you can place talking books on the same card as music. You just place the talking books in to the VR DTB folder. I'm switching from the stream to the Ipod on my Iphone, I think the largest card the Stream can handle is a 16GB but I could be wrong. It is much faster if you were to get a Stream to copy content via the card reader than the Stream's USB port itself. The Stream shows up on the desktop once you insert the SD card in to a card reader. You just hit command O to open like normal and all the folders are there. I hope this has helped you. The only thing I'm unsure about is the Audible authorization. That might have to be done on a Windows machine, since the Audible version on the Mac assumes you are using Itunes on an Ipod. Well, I hope I have helped. Have a wonderful day. Thank you for your help on the Iphone, it is much appreciated. Allison On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:26 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
This is great information. Is there a daisy app for iPad or iPhone? Where can I get one for the mac? I have a 32 gig iPad and a 16 gig iPhone. Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs On Jun 14, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Dave Taylor wrote: I As a stream user I would say this. Remember you will also have to pay for a storage card. That being the case, if I didn't have one I would regard any Apple device with 16 GB, or even better 32 or the incredible 64 GB of storage as a better bet. Synchronising will be much easier and I can't think of anything the stream can do that Apples can't provided you have a Daisy player app. The media player control knocks spots of anything in any gadget apart from the Stream, and in some ways is much better. Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris G Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:47 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: some more questions about streams and macs Answers below. On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:26:06 -0700 Olivia Norman olivianor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? You insert the card into the stream and it creates the folders for you. 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? Yes, you put them in the $VRMusic folder. 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. This is correct. You would see the streams folders through the finder. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
Wonderful! Thank you for the help! :) Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:47 AM, Chris G wrote: Answers below. On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:26:06 -0700 Olivia Norman olivianor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? You insert the card into the stream and it creates the folders for you. 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? Yes, you put them in the $VRMusic folder. 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. This is correct. You would see the streams folders through the finder. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: some more questions about streams and macs
If I didn't have a stream now, and I liked the way the apple products work, which I hope I will when I get my hands on them in a few weeks, I would say a 64 GB iPhone 4G would meet so many needs that a Stream would not be worth the money. Given that I bought one a couple of years ago when VO wasn't quite as well established and the Apple products not as good, it was one of the best purchases I ever made. I'd like to be able to spell filenames and things like that on it which you can't, and I wish it had internet access etc. Things have changed a lot in two years! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: some more questions about streams and macs This is very helpful. Thanks! :) Now, I'm just trying to figure out if this device is worth the money. I've heard both mac and PC users who are blind say that it's the best money they spent on an AT product, so I'm trying to figure out if I really need it given the great Apple stuff I have. Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs On Jun 14, 2010, at 4:42 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Olivia, I think I can help you. I say think very lightly. I used to be a Stream user who used Windows, and obviously now have switched to the Mac. Okay let me see if I remember the first question, to format the SD card, you do it on the Stream directly. This is accomplished by pressing the 7 key on the numpad a few times till you hear format SD card. It will ask you to confirm by pressing the pound key. Once you press it, it will say formatting SD card and report back when the format is complete. Once that is done, you will have folders like VR audible, VR music etc. Yes, you can place talking books on the same card as music. You just place the talking books in to the VR DTB folder. I'm switching from the stream to the Ipod on my Iphone, I think the largest card the Stream can handle is a 16GB but I could be wrong. It is much faster if you were to get a Stream to copy content via the card reader than the Stream's USB port itself. The Stream shows up on the desktop once you insert the SD card in to a card reader. You just hit command O to open like normal and all the folders are there. I hope this has helped you. The only thing I'm unsure about is the Audible authorization. That might have to be done on a Windows machine, since the Audible version on the Mac assumes you are using Itunes on an Ipod. Well, I hope I have helped. Have a wonderful day. Thank you for your help on the Iphone, it is much appreciated. Allison On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:26 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
You can't play library of congress talking books on an Ipod. so if you read a lot of those books and magazines, you'd need some sort of something to play them on, such as the stream, right? Mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
You can't play NLS books, but there is the free NLS digital player for that. On Jun 14, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: This is great information. Is there a daisy app for iPad or iPhone? Where can I get one for the mac? I have a 32 gig iPad and a 16 gig iPhone. Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs On Jun 14, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Dave Taylor wrote: I As a stream user I would say this. Remember you will also have to pay for a storage card. That being the case, if I didn't have one I would regard any Apple device with 16 GB, or even better 32 or the incredible 64 GB of storage as a better bet. Synchronising will be much easier and I can't think of anything the stream can do that Apples can't provided you have a Daisy player app. The media player control knocks spots of anything in any gadget apart from the Stream, and in some ways is much better. Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris G Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:47 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: some more questions about streams and macs Answers below. On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:26:06 -0700 Olivia Norman olivianor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? You insert the card into the stream and it creates the folders for you. 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? Yes, you put them in the $VRMusic folder. 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. This is correct. You would see the streams folders through the finder. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
Olivia, I have the Stream and the Book Sense. I like the Book Sense better. It's smaller, can record in more formats right out of the box, plays NLS, Audible, RFBD, all sorts of text files. It's about 1/3 the size of the Stream. The XT model even has an FM radio and blue tooth connectivity, of which the Stream has neither. Only drawback to this is it's somewhere between $400 and $500 instead of $329 or so. It works with the Mac very well for transferring files. The XT model even came with an 8 gig card and 4 gigs of internal storage, which is very handy. I hope this helps instead of confusing you further. I do believe you would still have to authorize it on Audible with a windows PC, but I'm not 100% sure of this one. On Jun 14, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: This is very helpful. Thanks! :) Now, I'm just trying to figure out if this device is worth the money. I've heard both mac and PC users who are blind say that it's the best money they spent on an AT product, so I'm trying to figure out if I really need it given the great Apple stuff I have. Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs On Jun 14, 2010, at 4:42 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Olivia, I think I can help you. I say think very lightly. I used to be a Stream user who used Windows, and obviously now have switched to the Mac. Okay let me see if I remember the first question, to format the SD card, you do it on the Stream directly. This is accomplished by pressing the 7 key on the numpad a few times till you hear format SD card. It will ask you to confirm by pressing the pound key. Once you press it, it will say formatting SD card and report back when the format is complete. Once that is done, you will have folders like VR audible, VR music etc. Yes, you can place talking books on the same card as music. You just place the talking books in to the VR DTB folder. I'm switching from the stream to the Ipod on my Iphone, I think the largest card the Stream can handle is a 16GB but I could be wrong. It is much faster if you were to get a Stream to copy content via the card reader than the Stream's USB port itself. The Stream shows up on the desktop once you insert the SD card in to a card reader. You just hit command O to open like normal and all the folders are there. I hope this has helped you. The only thing I'm unsure about is the Audible authorization. That might have to be done on a Windows machine, since the Audible version on the Mac assumes you are using Itunes on an Ipod. Well, I hope I have helped. Have a wonderful day. Thank you for your help on the Iphone, it is much appreciated. Allison On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:26 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
I think the stream and the Book Sense both handle 32 gig cards. On Jun 14, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Olivia, I think I can help you. I say think very lightly. I used to be a Stream user who used Windows, and obviously now have switched to the Mac. Okay let me see if I remember the first question, to format the SD card, you do it on the Stream directly. This is accomplished by pressing the 7 key on the numpad a few times till you hear format SD card. It will ask you to confirm by pressing the pound key. Once you press it, it will say formatting SD card and report back when the format is complete. Once that is done, you will have folders like VR audible, VR music etc. Yes, you can place talking books on the same card as music. You just place the talking books in to the VR DTB folder. I'm switching from the stream to the Ipod on my Iphone, I think the largest card the Stream can handle is a 16GB but I could be wrong. It is much faster if you were to get a Stream to copy content via the card reader than the Stream's USB port itself. The Stream shows up on the desktop once you insert the SD card in to a card reader. You just hit command O to open like normal and all the folders are there. I hope this has helped you. The only thing I'm unsure about is the Audible authorization. That might have to be done on a Windows machine, since the Audible version on the Mac assumes you are using Itunes on an Ipod. Well, I hope I have helped. Have a wonderful day. Thank you for your help on the Iphone, it is much appreciated. Allison On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:26 AM, Olivia Norman wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: some more questions about streams and macs
Hi, I'm going to play devils advoket here. The advantage of the removable storage is this. 1. If the card dies, you throw it away and buy another one. Before I get emails saying cards are not likely to die, I just had a 2gb die on me. (smile) 2. If all you can afforde is 8gb, buy an 8gb SD card and when money allows buy a 16 or 32 gb sd card. you still have access to your 8GB card. On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:52:27 +0100 Dave Taylor d...@cl333.plus.com wrote: I As a stream user I would say this. Remember you will also have to pay for a storage card. That being the case, if I didn't have one I would regard any Apple device with 16 GB, or even better 32 or the incredible 64 GB of storage as a better bet. Synchronising will be much easier and I can't think of anything the stream can do that Apples can't provided you have a Daisy player app. The media player control knocks spots of anything in any gadget apart from the Stream, and in some ways is much better. Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris G Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:47 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: some more questions about streams and macs Answers below. On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:26:06 -0700 Olivia Norman olivianor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? You insert the card into the stream and it creates the folders for you. 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? Yes, you put them in the $VRMusic folder. 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. This is correct. You would see the streams folders through the finder. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G cgrabowsk...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
some more questions about streams and macs
Hi Everyone, I'm looking at the Q and A's that someone sent earlier today (Thank you, who ever sent these! :) I have a few more questions, as all of the material I've seen works on the assumption that people are using windows. 1. How do you formatt the stream's card? The material discusses various folders to copy certain kinds of files into. So, how do I take a blank SD card and make it work with the stream's folders using a mac? 2. Can I copy music files and put them on the same SD card as talking books? 3. I'm assuming that the SD card would simply show up in the finder and content can just be coppied between devices that way. I'm still considering whether or not to drop the money on the stream, or if I would simply be fine with my iPod, iPad, etc, as they work better with a mac. I would welcome people's thoughts and opinions! Thanks! Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
