Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
Can't remember to be honest, I installed everything. On 05/09/2009, at 12:14 AM, James & Nash wrote: > > There's also a proof reading feature which I've heard about? This is > not a > grammar checker smile. BTW can I install Pages without Numbers and > Keynote > or do i need to instal all of them? > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X > > >> >> You expect me to summaries the features of Pages in one email >> message? >> We'll be here all night , what I've discovered so far is some >> very excellent auto-correct features, we've discussed the "Auto >> Numbering and Auto-bulleting" functionality of Pages but that's just >> the start, just play about with the menu system and you'll soon see >> what I mean, look in the help file which can be accessed with >> command- >> shift-? and download the manual. >> >> >> On 04/09/2009, at 11:22 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >> >>> >>> Cool. What kinds of features does it offer? I just started using it >>> so I'm >>> not that familiar with it. >>> Thanks, >>> Jeffrey >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Dane Trethowan" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:19 AM >>> Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering >>>> and I've been using the software for much of this year. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell. >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can >>>>>>> tell. >>>>>>> It has >>>>>>> done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it >>>>>>> comes to >>>>>>> getting >>>>>>> work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like >>>>>>> switching to my >>>>>>> Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done. >>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>> Jeffrey >>>>>>> - Original Message - >>>>>>> From: "James & Nash" >>>>>>> To: "Mac visionaries" >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? >>>>>>>> Although I >>>>>>>> don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to >>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>> footnotes >>>>>>>> and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for >>>>>>>> academic >>>>>>>> writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> compile >>>>>>>> it can be very frustrating. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with >>>>>>>> SL.Hopefully, they >>>>>>>> have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> VO. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need >>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>> Office >>>>>>>> suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I >>>>>>>> did >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>> OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for any help you can provide. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> james >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
There's also a proof reading feature which I've heard about? This is not a grammar checker smile. BTW can I install Pages without Numbers and Keynote or do i need to instal all of them? - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X > > You expect me to summaries the features of Pages in one email message? > We'll be here all night , what I've discovered so far is some > very excellent auto-correct features, we've discussed the "Auto > Numbering and Auto-bulleting" functionality of Pages but that's just > the start, just play about with the menu system and you'll soon see > what I mean, look in the help file which can be accessed with command- > shift-? and download the manual. > > > On 04/09/2009, at 11:22 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: > >> >> Cool. What kinds of features does it offer? I just started using it >> so I'm >> not that familiar with it. >> Thanks, >> Jeffrey >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:19 AM >> Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X >> >> >>> >>> Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering >>> and I've been using the software for much of this year. >>> >>> >>> On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell. >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can >>>>>> tell. >>>>>> It has >>>>>> done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it >>>>>> comes to >>>>>> getting >>>>>> work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like >>>>>> switching to my >>>>>> Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done. >>>>>> HTH, >>>>>> Jeffrey >>>>>> - Original Message - >>>>>> From: "James & Nash" >>>>>> To: "Mac visionaries" >>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM >>>>>> Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? >>>>>>> Although I >>>>>>> don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to >>>>>>> use >>>>>>> footnotes >>>>>>> and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for >>>>>>> academic >>>>>>> writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> compile >>>>>>> it can be very frustrating. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with >>>>>>> SL.Hopefully, they >>>>>>> have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> VO. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> Office >>>>>>> suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I >>>>>>> did >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for any help you can provide. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>> >>>>>>> james >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
OK, Will do. Thanks, Jeffrey - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X > > As I said earlier, many things I haven't even explored yet so have fun > and please let us all know what you think. > > > On 04/09/2009, at 11:30 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: > >> >> Ah, I'll take a look at those resources. >> Thanks. >> Jeffrey >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:26 AM >> Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X >> >> >>> >>> You expect me to summaries the features of Pages in one email >>> message? >>> We'll be here all night , what I've discovered so far is some >>> very excellent auto-correct features, we've discussed the "Auto >>> Numbering and Auto-bulleting" functionality of Pages but that's just >>> the start, just play about with the menu system and you'll soon see >>> what I mean, look in the help file which can be accessed with >>> command- >>> shift-? and download the manual. >>> >>> >>> On 04/09/2009, at 11:22 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Cool. What kinds of features does it offer? I just started using it >>>> so I'm >>>> not that familiar with it. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jeffrey >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:19 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering >>>>> and I've been using the software for much of this year. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell. >>>>>> - Original Message - >>>>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>>>> To: >>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can >>>>>>>> tell. >>>>>>>> It has >>>>>>>> done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it >>>>>>>> comes to >>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>> work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like >>>>>>>> switching to my >>>>>>>> Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done. >>>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>>> Jeffrey >>>>>>>> - Original Message - >>>>>>>> From: "James & Nash" >>>>>>>> To: "Mac visionaries" >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? >>>>>>>>> Although I >>>>>>>>> don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to >>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>> footnotes >>>>>>>>> and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for >>>>>>>>> academic >>>>>>>>> writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> compile >>>>>>>>> it can be very frustrating. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with >>>>>>>>> SL.Hopefully, they >>>>>>>>> have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> VO. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need >>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>> Office >>>>>>>>> suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I >>>>>>>>> did >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help you can provide. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> james >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
As I said earlier, many things I haven't even explored yet so have fun and please let us all know what you think. On 04/09/2009, at 11:30 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: > > Ah, I'll take a look at those resources. > Thanks. > Jeffrey > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X > > >> >> You expect me to summaries the features of Pages in one email >> message? >> We'll be here all night , what I've discovered so far is some >> very excellent auto-correct features, we've discussed the "Auto >> Numbering and Auto-bulleting" functionality of Pages but that's just >> the start, just play about with the menu system and you'll soon see >> what I mean, look in the help file which can be accessed with >> command- >> shift-? and download the manual. >> >> >> On 04/09/2009, at 11:22 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >> >>> >>> Cool. What kinds of features does it offer? I just started using it >>> so I'm >>> not that familiar with it. >>> Thanks, >>> Jeffrey >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Dane Trethowan" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:19 AM >>> Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering >>>> and I've been using the software for much of this year. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell. >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can >>>>>>> tell. >>>>>>> It has >>>>>>> done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it >>>>>>> comes to >>>>>>> getting >>>>>>> work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like >>>>>>> switching to my >>>>>>> Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done. >>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>> Jeffrey >>>>>>> - Original Message - >>>>>>> From: "James & Nash" >>>>>>> To: "Mac visionaries" >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? >>>>>>>> Although I >>>>>>>> don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to >>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>> footnotes >>>>>>>> and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for >>>>>>>> academic >>>>>>>> writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> compile >>>>>>>> it can be very frustrating. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with >>>>>>>> SL.Hopefully, they >>>>>>>> have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> VO. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need >>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>> Office >>>>>>>> suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I >>>>>>>> did >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>> OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for any help you can provide. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> james >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
Ah, I'll take a look at those resources. Thanks. Jeffrey - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:26 AM Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X > > You expect me to summaries the features of Pages in one email message? > We'll be here all night , what I've discovered so far is some > very excellent auto-correct features, we've discussed the "Auto > Numbering and Auto-bulleting" functionality of Pages but that's just > the start, just play about with the menu system and you'll soon see > what I mean, look in the help file which can be accessed with command- > shift-? and download the manual. > > > On 04/09/2009, at 11:22 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: > >> >> Cool. What kinds of features does it offer? I just started using it >> so I'm >> not that familiar with it. >> Thanks, >> Jeffrey >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:19 AM >> Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X >> >> >>> >>> Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering >>> and I've been using the software for much of this year. >>> >>> >>> On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell. >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can >>>>>> tell. >>>>>> It has >>>>>> done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it >>>>>> comes to >>>>>> getting >>>>>> work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like >>>>>> switching to my >>>>>> Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done. >>>>>> HTH, >>>>>> Jeffrey >>>>>> - Original Message - >>>>>> From: "James & Nash" >>>>>> To: "Mac visionaries" >>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM >>>>>> Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? >>>>>>> Although I >>>>>>> don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to >>>>>>> use >>>>>>> footnotes >>>>>>> and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for >>>>>>> academic >>>>>>> writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> compile >>>>>>> it can be very frustrating. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with >>>>>>> SL.Hopefully, they >>>>>>> have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> VO. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> Office >>>>>>> suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I >>>>>>> did >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for any help you can provide. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>> >>>>>>> james >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
You expect me to summaries the features of Pages in one email message? We'll be here all night , what I've discovered so far is some very excellent auto-correct features, we've discussed the "Auto Numbering and Auto-bulleting" functionality of Pages but that's just the start, just play about with the menu system and you'll soon see what I mean, look in the help file which can be accessed with command- shift-? and download the manual. On 04/09/2009, at 11:22 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: > > Cool. What kinds of features does it offer? I just started using it > so I'm > not that familiar with it. > Thanks, > Jeffrey > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:19 AM > Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X > > >> >> Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering >> and I've been using the software for much of this year. >> >> >> On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >> >>> >>> Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Dane Trethowan" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM >>> Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can >>>>> tell. >>>>> It has >>>>> done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it >>>>> comes to >>>>> getting >>>>> work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like >>>>> switching to my >>>>> Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done. >>>>> HTH, >>>>> Jeffrey >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: "James & Nash" >>>>> To: "Mac visionaries" >>>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM >>>>> Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? >>>>>> Although I >>>>>> don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to >>>>>> use >>>>>> footnotes >>>>>> and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for >>>>>> academic >>>>>> writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will >>>>>> not >>>>>> compile >>>>>> it can be very frustrating. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with >>>>>> SL.Hopefully, they >>>>>> have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus >>>>>> and >>>>>> VO. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need >>>>>> an >>>>>> Office >>>>>> suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I >>>>>> did >>>>>> not >>>>>> like >>>>>> OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for any help you can provide. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care >>>>>> >>>>>> james >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
I look forward to trying it , bought that excellent little package nearly 3 years ago and haven't looked back, I really should give the software a "run" and see if its been updated and improved since I last used it, one of the features I liked in that software was the ability to write HTML coding, see the document as it would appear and view the actual coding. On 04/09/2009, at 11:08 PM, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi Dane, > > I've used Nisus Pro for a long time and I msut say that the > developers are > very open to accessibility issues. I wonder how well the new 1.3.1 > of Pro > will work under Snow Leopard when it comes out of beta. > > Thanks for the suggestions > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:46 PM > Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X > > >> >> I use a combination of Open office and Pages - the latter is very >> nice >> indeed I'm told under Snow Leopard though I haven't had the chance to >> try that for myself yet -. >> >> Another word processing package -available on its own - which is >> super! >> to use is Nisus Writer Pro, very accessible and packed with all >> sorts of >> Word Processing and desktop publishing features. >> >> If you want to go down the "Free Road" try Bean which does one hell >> of a >> lot considering its free. >> >> >> >> James & Nash wrote: >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? >>> Although I >>> don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use >>> footnotes >>> and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for >>> academic >>> writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not >>> compile >>> it can be very frustrating. >>> >>> I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with >>> SL.Hopefully, >>> they >>> have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and >>> VO. >>> >>> I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an >>> Office >>> suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did >>> not >>> like >>> OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. >>> >>> Thanks for any help you can provide. >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> james >>> >>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net >> Phone United Kingdom >> 02032874641 >> Phone Australia >> :0390058589 >> Phone United States >> :8159261869 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 >> MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net >> skype:grtdane12 >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane >> blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
Cool. What kinds of features does it offer? I just started using it so I'm not that familiar with it. Thanks, Jeffrey - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:19 AM Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X > > Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering > and I've been using the software for much of this year. > > > On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: > >> >> Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM >> Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X >> >> >>> >>> Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9. >>> >>> >>> On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can tell. >>>> It has >>>> done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it comes to >>>> getting >>>> work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like >>>> switching to my >>>> Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done. >>>> HTH, >>>> Jeffrey >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "James & Nash" >>>> To: "Mac visionaries" >>>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM >>>> Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>> What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? >>>>> Although I >>>>> don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use >>>>> footnotes >>>>> and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for >>>>> academic >>>>> writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not >>>>> compile >>>>> it can be very frustrating. >>>>> >>>>> I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with >>>>> SL.Hopefully, they >>>>> have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and >>>>> VO. >>>>> >>>>> I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an >>>>> Office >>>>> suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did >>>>> not >>>>> like >>>>> OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for any help you can provide. >>>>> >>>>> Take care >>>>> >>>>> james >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
Pages contains many advanced features that I'm only now discovering and I've been using the software for much of this year. On 04/09/2009, at 10:57 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: > > Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM > Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X > > >> >> Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9. >> >> >> On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can tell. >>> It has >>> done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it comes to >>> getting >>> work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like >>> switching to my >>> Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done. >>> HTH, >>> Jeffrey >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "James & Nash" >>> To: "Mac visionaries" >>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM >>> Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? >>>> Although I >>>> don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use >>>> footnotes >>>> and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for >>>> academic >>>> writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not >>>> compile >>>> it can be very frustrating. >>>> >>>> I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with >>>> SL.Hopefully, they >>>> have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and >>>> VO. >>>> >>>> I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an >>>> Office >>>> suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did >>>> not >>>> like >>>> OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any help you can provide. >>>> >>>> Take care >>>> >>>> james >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
That's really good to hear. Thank you Jeffrey - Original Message - From: "Jeffrey Shockley" To: Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:50 PM Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X > > Hi, > The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can tell. It has > done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it comes to > getting > work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like switching to > my > Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done. > HTH, > Jeffrey > - Original Message - > From: "James & Nash" > To: "Mac visionaries" > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM > Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X > > >> >> Hi folks, >> >> What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? Although I >> don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use >> footnotes >> and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for academic >> writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not >> compile >> it can be very frustrating. >> >> I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with SL.Hopefully, >> they >> have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and VO. >> >> I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an Office >> suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did not >> like >> OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. >> >> Thanks for any help you can provide. >> >> Take care >> >> james >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
Hi Dane, I've used Nisus Pro for a long time and I msut say that the developers are very open to accessibility issues. I wonder how well the new 1.3.1 of Pro will work under Snow Leopard when it comes out of beta. Thanks for the suggestions - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:46 PM Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X > > I use a combination of Open office and Pages - the latter is very nice > indeed I'm told under Snow Leopard though I haven't had the chance to > try that for myself yet -. > > Another word processing package -available on its own - which is super! > to use is Nisus Writer Pro, very accessible and packed with all sorts of > Word Processing and desktop publishing features. > > If you want to go down the "Free Road" try Bean which does one hell of a > lot considering its free. > > > > James & Nash wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? Although I >> don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use >> footnotes >> and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for academic >> writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not >> compile >> it can be very frustrating. >> >> I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with SL.Hopefully, >> they >> have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and VO. >> >> I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an >> Office >> suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did not >> like >> OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. >> >> Thanks for any help you can provide. >> >> Take care >> >> james >> >> >> > >> > > -- > > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net > Phone United Kingdom > 02032874641 > Phone Australia > :0390058589 > Phone United States > :8159261869 > Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 > Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 > MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net > skype:grtdane12 > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane > blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
Yep, it seems to be a nice little program, from what I can tell. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:50 AM Subject: Re: Word processing on Mac OS X > > Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9. > > > On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can tell. >> It has >> done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it comes to >> getting >> work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like >> switching to my >> Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done. >> HTH, >> Jeffrey >> - Original Message - >> From: "James & Nash" >> To: "Mac visionaries" >> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM >> Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X >> >> >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? >>> Although I >>> don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use >>> footnotes >>> and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for >>> academic >>> writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not >>> compile >>> it can be very frustrating. >>> >>> I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with >>> SL.Hopefully, they >>> have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and >>> VO. >>> >>> I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an >>> Office >>> suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did >>> not >>> like >>> OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. >>> >>> Thanks for any help you can provide. >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> james >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
There is also a demo of pages as part of IWork On 4 Sep 2009, at 13:46, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > I use a combination of Open office and Pages - the latter is very nice > indeed I'm told under Snow Leopard though I haven't had the chance to > try that for myself yet -. > > Another word processing package -available on its own - which is > super! > to use is Nisus Writer Pro, very accessible and packed with all > sorts of > Word Processing and desktop publishing features. > > If you want to go down the "Free Road" try Bean which does one hell > of a > lot considering its free. > > > > James & Nash wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? >> Although I >> don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use >> footnotes >> and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for >> academic >> writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not >> compile >> it can be very frustrating. >> >> I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with >> SL.Hopefully, they >> have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and >> VO. >> >> I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an >> Office >> suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did >> not like >> OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. >> >> Thanks for any help you can provide. >> >> Take care >> >> james >> >> >>> >> > > -- > > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net > Phone United Kingdom > 02032874641 > Phone Australia > :0390058589 > Phone United States > :8159261869 > Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 > Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 > MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net > skype:grtdane12 > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane > blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
Yes, Pages is the name of the Word Processing package in Iwork 9. On 04/09/2009, at 10:50 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: > > Hi, > The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can tell. > It has > done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it comes to > getting > work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like > switching to my > Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done. > HTH, > Jeffrey > - Original Message - > From: "James & Nash" > To: "Mac visionaries" > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM > Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X > > >> >> Hi folks, >> >> What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? >> Although I >> don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use >> footnotes >> and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for >> academic >> writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not >> compile >> it can be very frustrating. >> >> I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with >> SL.Hopefully, they >> have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and >> VO. >> >> I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an >> Office >> suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did >> not >> like >> OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. >> >> Thanks for any help you can provide. >> >> Take care >> >> james >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
Hi, The iWork Suite seems to be pritty accessible from what I can tell. It has done what I needed so far, which is good especially when it comes to getting work for college classes accomplished and I don't feel like switching to my Windows machines to get the assignment or whatever done. HTH, Jeffrey - Original Message - From: "James & Nash" To: "Mac visionaries" Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM Subject: Word processing on Mac OS X > > Hi folks, > > What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? Although I > don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use > footnotes > and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for academic > writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not compile > it can be very frustrating. > > I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with SL.Hopefully, they > have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and VO. > > I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an Office > suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did not > like > OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. > > Thanks for any help you can provide. > > Take care > > james > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word processing on Mac OS X
I use a combination of Open office and Pages - the latter is very nice indeed I'm told under Snow Leopard though I haven't had the chance to try that for myself yet -. Another word processing package -available on its own - which is super! to use is Nisus Writer Pro, very accessible and packed with all sorts of Word Processing and desktop publishing features. If you want to go down the "Free Road" try Bean which does one hell of a lot considering its free. James & Nash wrote: > Hi folks, > > What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? Although I > don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use footnotes > and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for academic > writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not compile > it can be very frustrating. > > I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with SL.Hopefully, they > have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and VO. > > I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an Office > suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did not like > OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. > > Thanks for any help you can provide. > > Take care > > james > > > > > -- Dane Trethowan >From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Word processing on Mac OS X
Hi folks, What are folks on the list using for Word Processing please? Although I don't need it right at the moemnt, I would like the ability to use footnotes and endnotes as well as tables of contents. Latex is great for academic writing nbut sometimes when there's an error and the file will not compile it can be very frustrating. I know that Nisus is in beta at the moment for use with SL.Hopefully, they have improved the accesibility and compatibility between Nisus and VO. I would be very greatful for any recommendations. I do not need an Office suite, but how accessible is the IWork suite. Unfortunately, I did not like OpenOffice and found it very clunky and not very intuitive. Thanks for any help you can provide. Take care james --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
Yes I have tried a deom version. I liked it. I just wonder if it is possible to buy each application separately. Although Keynote sounds very cool. Take care James - Original Message - From: "william lomas" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > and james, you can always get a trial of IWork I liked it when I tried > it, i may purchase it wen and if i decide to upgrade to snowleopard > > On 8 Jul 2009, at 09:23, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Thanks Mike >> - Original Message - >> From: "Mike Arrigo" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:16 AM >> Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X >> >> >>> >>> Text edit comes with the mac, and it works well, the newest version >>> of >>> pages is also very accessible. >>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:48 PM, James & Nash wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >>>> other >>>> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each >>>> with >>>> VO? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> James >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
and james, you can always get a trial of IWork I liked it when I tried it, i may purchase it wen and if i decide to upgrade to snowleopard On 8 Jul 2009, at 09:23, James & Nash wrote: > > Thanks Mike > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Arrigo" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:16 AM > Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > >> >> Text edit comes with the mac, and it works well, the newest version >> of >> pages is also very accessible. >> On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:48 PM, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >>> other >>> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each >>> with >>> VO? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> James >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
Thanks Mike - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:16 AM Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > Text edit comes with the mac, and it works well, the newest version of > pages is also very accessible. > On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:48 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >> other >> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each >> with >> VO? >> >> Thanks >> >> James >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
Text edit comes with the mac, and it works well, the newest version of pages is also very accessible. On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:48 PM, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any > other > Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each > with > VO? > > Thanks > > James > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
lol yes I was wasn't I. Oh I'm sorry, my mistake I misunderstood your message. Actually, there is a program callled Scrivener which translates into Latex. I don't know if it back translates though and it is 40 USD after the demo runs out. - Original Message - From: "Barry Hadder" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > Well I don't think that this is just a Voiceover list and you are the > one who started the "Word Processing on Mac OS10" discussion. Which I > think is a valid topic incidentally. > > I know about other conversion utilities. I met that I haven't found > one that worked well yet. Hense the need for a Word Processor. > > > On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:16 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Perhaps we should take this of list although it is VO related as it >> works >> with VO. >> >> There are some conversion tools. If you do a Google search you >> should find >> them. >> >> Take care >> >> James >> - Original Message - >> From: "Barry Hadder" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:14 PM >> Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X >> >> >>> >>> I use latex my self, but I haven't found a good way to be compatible >>> with people who write Word docs. >>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Justin Harford wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well. LaTeX is far nicer under >>>> Mac OS X than Windows. >>>> >>>> Justin >>>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James & Nash wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Simon, >>>>> >>>>> Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would >>>>> be >>>>> more >>>>> than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a >>>>> downloadable free 15 day demo if you like. >>>>> >>>>> Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word >>>>> processor >>>>> like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus >>>>> version. >>>>> >>>>> Take care >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: "Simon Cavendish" >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear James, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have been following various posts on this list but to date I >>>>>> haven't >>>>>> heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would >>>>>> persuade >>>>>> me >>>>>> that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that >>>>>> some >>>>>> people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of >>>>>> success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them >>>>>> so >>>>>> unhelpful that I gave up. >>>>>> >>>>>> I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe >>>>>> you >>>>>> still able to talk to them about accessbility of their >>>>>> application? >>>>>> If >>>>>> they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to >>>>>> Ms >>>>>> Office on the Mac. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am sorry not to be more helpful. >>>>>> >>>>>> With best and warmest wishes >>>>>> >>>>>> Simon >>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> other >>>>>>> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of >>>>>>> each >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> VO? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> James >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
Hi Barry, Could you E Mail me offf list and tell me what I have to do? Do I need to install something other than TEXShop or is the Latex already built in to Mac OS X? Also, I E Mailed Apple Accessibility about that problem and someone very kindly explained what ligatures were although i can't remember. I think the work around for this problem is to put braces around the faulty ligatures. Thanks James - Original Message - From: "Barry Hadder" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:25 PM Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > You don't have to use TEXShop. You can just run the tools from the > command line. > > I should also mention that I have noticed some ligatures not showing > up correctly in pdf files generated with pdflatex or dvipdf. > lowercase fi is one that comes to mind. I haven't a clue as to why > this is so if anybody knows I would appreciate the info. > > On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:13 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> I have used Latex for about two years and yes i agree it is. Just as >> an >> aside under Mc OS X do I need to use TEXShop as it is from what I >> remember >> a 700MB program with all the packages etc. Could I not just use the >> command >> line as I do under Windows once I've installed TEX Live or something? >> >> Thanks >> >> James >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "Justin Harford" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:48 PM >> Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X >> >> >>> >>> If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well. LaTeX is far nicer under >>> Mac OS X than Windows. >>> >>> Justin >>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James & Nash wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Simon, >>>> >>>> Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be >>>> more >>>> than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a >>>> downloadable free 15 day demo if you like. >>>> >>>> Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word >>>> processor >>>> like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus >>>> version. >>>> >>>> Take care >>>> >>>> James >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Simon Cavendish" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear James, >>>>> >>>>> I have been following various posts on this list but to date I >>>>> haven't >>>>> heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade >>>>> me >>>>> that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that >>>>> some >>>>> people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of >>>>> success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so >>>>> unhelpful that I gave up. >>>>> >>>>> I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe >>>>> you >>>>> still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? >>>>> If >>>>> they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival >>>>> to Ms >>>>> Office on the Mac. >>>>> >>>>> I am sorry not to be more helpful. >>>>> >>>>> With best and warmest wishes >>>>> >>>>> Simon >>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed >>>>>> any >>>>>> other >>>>>> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of >>>>>> each >>>>>> with >>>>>> VO? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> James >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
Well I don't think that this is just a Voiceover list and you are the one who started the "Word Processing on Mac OS10" discussion. Which I think is a valid topic incidentally. I know about other conversion utilities. I met that I haven't found one that worked well yet. Hense the need for a Word Processor. On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:16 PM, James & Nash wrote: > > Perhaps we should take this of list although it is VO related as it > works > with VO. > > There are some conversion tools. If you do a Google search you > should find > them. > > Take care > > James > - Original Message - > From: "Barry Hadder" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:14 PM > Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > >> >> I use latex my self, but I haven't found a good way to be compatible >> with people who write Word docs. >> On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Justin Harford wrote: >> >>> >>> If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well. LaTeX is far nicer under >>> Mac OS X than Windows. >>> >>> Justin >>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James & Nash wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Simon, >>>> >>>> Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would >>>> be >>>> more >>>> than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a >>>> downloadable free 15 day demo if you like. >>>> >>>> Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word >>>> processor >>>> like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus >>>> version. >>>> >>>> Take care >>>> >>>> James >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Simon Cavendish" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear James, >>>>> >>>>> I have been following various posts on this list but to date I >>>>> haven't >>>>> heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would >>>>> persuade >>>>> me >>>>> that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that >>>>> some >>>>> people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of >>>>> success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them >>>>> so >>>>> unhelpful that I gave up. >>>>> >>>>> I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe >>>>> you >>>>> still able to talk to them about accessbility of their >>>>> application? >>>>> If >>>>> they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to >>>>> Ms >>>>> Office on the Mac. >>>>> >>>>> I am sorry not to be more helpful. >>>>> >>>>> With best and warmest wishes >>>>> >>>>> Simon >>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed >>>>>> any >>>>>> other >>>>>> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of >>>>>> each >>>>>> with >>>>>> VO? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> James >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
You don't have to use TEXShop. You can just run the tools from the command line. I should also mention that I have noticed some ligatures not showing up correctly in pdf files generated with pdflatex or dvipdf. lowercase fi is one that comes to mind. I haven't a clue as to why this is so if anybody knows I would appreciate the info. On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:13 PM, James & Nash wrote: > > I have used Latex for about two years and yes i agree it is. Just as > an > aside under Mc OS X do I need to use TEXShop as it is from what I > remember > a 700MB program with all the packages etc. Could I not just use the > command > line as I do under Windows once I've installed TEX Live or something? > > Thanks > > James > - Original Message - > From: "Justin Harford" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:48 PM > Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > >> >> If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well. LaTeX is far nicer under >> Mac OS X than Windows. >> >> Justin >> On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Simon, >>> >>> Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be >>> more >>> than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a >>> downloadable free 15 day demo if you like. >>> >>> Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word >>> processor >>> like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus >>> version. >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> James >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Simon Cavendish" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM >>> Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Dear James, >>>> >>>> I have been following various posts on this list but to date I >>>> haven't >>>> heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade >>>> me >>>> that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that >>>> some >>>> people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of >>>> success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so >>>> unhelpful that I gave up. >>>> >>>> I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe >>>> you >>>> still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? >>>> If >>>> they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival >>>> to Ms >>>> Office on the Mac. >>>> >>>> I am sorry not to be more helpful. >>>> >>>> With best and warmest wishes >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed >>>>> any >>>>> other >>>>> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of >>>>> each >>>>> with >>>>> VO? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
Perhaps we should take this of list although it is VO related as it works with VO. There are some conversion tools. If you do a Google search you should find them. Take care James - Original Message - From: "Barry Hadder" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:14 PM Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > I use latex my self, but I haven't found a good way to be compatible > with people who write Word docs. > On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Justin Harford wrote: > >> >> If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well. LaTeX is far nicer under >> Mac OS X than Windows. >> >> Justin >> On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Simon, >>> >>> Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be >>> more >>> than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a >>> downloadable free 15 day demo if you like. >>> >>> Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word >>> processor >>> like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus >>> version. >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> James >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Simon Cavendish" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM >>> Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Dear James, >>>> >>>> I have been following various posts on this list but to date I >>>> haven't >>>> heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade >>>> me >>>> that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that >>>> some >>>> people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of >>>> success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so >>>> unhelpful that I gave up. >>>> >>>> I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe >>>> you >>>> still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? >>>> If >>>> they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to >>>> Ms >>>> Office on the Mac. >>>> >>>> I am sorry not to be more helpful. >>>> >>>> With best and warmest wishes >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >>>>> other >>>>> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of >>>>> each >>>>> with >>>>> VO? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
I have used Latex for about two years and yes i agree it is. Just as an aside under Mc OS X do I need to use TEXShop as it is from what I remember a 700MB program with all the packages etc. Could I not just use the command line as I do under Windows once I've installed TEX Live or something? Thanks James - Original Message - From: "Justin Harford" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well. LaTeX is far nicer under > Mac OS X than Windows. > > Justin > On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Hi Simon, >> >> Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be >> more >> than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a >> downloadable free 15 day demo if you like. >> >> Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word >> processor >> like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus >> version. >> >> Take care >> >> James >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "Simon Cavendish" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM >> Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X >> >> >>> >>> Dear James, >>> >>> I have been following various posts on this list but to date I >>> haven't >>> heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade >>> me >>> that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some >>> people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of >>> success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so >>> unhelpful that I gave up. >>> >>> I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you >>> still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? >>> If >>> they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms >>> Office on the Mac. >>> >>> I am sorry not to be more helpful. >>> >>> With best and warmest wishes >>> >>> Simon >>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >>>> other >>>> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each >>>> with >>>> VO? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> James >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
I use latex my self, but I haven't found a good way to be compatible with people who write Word docs. On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Justin Harford wrote: > > If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well. LaTeX is far nicer under > Mac OS X than Windows. > > Justin > On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Hi Simon, >> >> Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be >> more >> than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a >> downloadable free 15 day demo if you like. >> >> Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word >> processor >> like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus >> version. >> >> Take care >> >> James >> - Original Message - >> From: "Simon Cavendish" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM >> Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X >> >> >>> >>> Dear James, >>> >>> I have been following various posts on this list but to date I >>> haven't >>> heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade >>> me >>> that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that >>> some >>> people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of >>> success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so >>> unhelpful that I gave up. >>> >>> I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe >>> you >>> still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? >>> If >>> they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to >>> Ms >>> Office on the Mac. >>> >>> I am sorry not to be more helpful. >>> >>> With best and warmest wishes >>> >>> Simon >>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >>>> other >>>> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of >>>> each >>>> with >>>> VO? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> James >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
Hi Simon, Like you i am blin as you know, and this is why although I like Nisus, I use Latex, but that is a steep learning curve. However, if you are interested in it or would like to know more, please E Mail me off list. Take care James - Original Message - From: "Simon Cavendish" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > Dear Rostislava, > > The major problems I have encountered trying to use Nisus Writer Pro > is a lack of certainty in formatting. I would not know for instance > when I was inserting bullets or other features. When toggling > attributes like bold or udnerline, i do not know whether i toggle them > on or off. It's difficult remember every time to do it. And of course, > there is a problem with tables. I don't know when I am in the table > and which row or column I am in. > > If you have had more success, and if you are, lie me, a completely, > blind person, I would be interested in your experiences. > > I also have documents for which I would have to create headers or > footers. AGain, it is an uncertainty of whre I am: main body text or > header or footer, and having feedback about formatting. > > With best wishes > > Simon > On 7 Jul 2009, at 21:14, Koumanova Rostislava wrote: > >> >> hi, >> what are your needs? >> since i swich to mac i never needed to turn back. >> open office is very similar to ms office at least it has everything in >> the menu format. >> >> rk >> >> Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 22:03, Simon Cavendish ha scritto: >> >>> >>> Dear James, >>> >>> I have been following various posts on this list but to date I >>> haven't >>> heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade >>> me >>> that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some >>> people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of >>> success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so >>> unhelpful that I gave up. >>> >>> I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you >>> still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? >>> If >>> they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms >>> Office on the Mac. >>> >>> I am sorry not to be more helpful. >>> >>> With best and warmest wishes >>> >>> Simon >>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >>>> other >>>> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each >>>> with >>>> VO? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> James >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
Dear James, I will look at their demo. I've just e-mailed them myself. Please keep me posted on your discoveries. With best and wishes Simon On 7 Jul 2009, at 21:36, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be > more > than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a > downloadable free 15 day demo if you like. > > Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word > processor > like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus > version. > > Take care > > James > - Original Message - > From: "Simon Cavendish" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM > Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > >> >> Dear James, >> >> I have been following various posts on this list but to date I >> haven't >> heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade >> me >> that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some >> people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of >> success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so >> unhelpful that I gave up. >> >> I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you >> still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? >> If >> they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms >> Office on the Mac. >> >> I am sorry not to be more helpful. >> >> With best and warmest wishes >> >> Simon >> On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >>> other >>> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each >>> with >>> VO? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> James >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
hi, i use bold, underline in text edit. for eg. i write my document and then i spell check and format by selecting and performing bold , underline ecc. i handle a lot of tables using open office. it does not read heading of the colum or row and i have a little tip for this. if i have to fill the table i copy and paste the deading in the entire colom , then i overwrite it. when i comlete the table i paste it in text edit or document of open office. for bullets one can use iwork or open office. i know it is not perfect but there is alway a way to do the things. rk Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 22:28, Simon Cavendish ha scritto: > > Dear Rostislava, > > The major problems I have encountered trying to use Nisus Writer Pro > is a lack of certainty in formatting. I would not know for instance > when I was inserting bullets or other features. When toggling > attributes like bold or udnerline, i do not know whether i toggle them > on or off. It's difficult remember every time to do it. And of course, > there is a problem with tables. I don't know when I am in the table > and which row or column I am in. > > If you have had more success, and if you are, lie me, a completely, > blind person, I would be interested in your experiences. > > I also have documents for which I would have to create headers or > footers. AGain, it is an uncertainty of whre I am: main body text or > header or footer, and having feedback about formatting. > > With best wishes > > Simon > On 7 Jul 2009, at 21:14, Koumanova Rostislava wrote: > >> >> hi, >> what are your needs? >> since i swich to mac i never needed to turn back. >> open office is very similar to ms office at least it has everything >> in >> the menu format. >> >> rk >> >> Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 22:03, Simon Cavendish ha scritto: >> >>> >>> Dear James, >>> >>> I have been following various posts on this list but to date I >>> haven't >>> heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade >>> me >>> that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that >>> some >>> people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of >>> success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so >>> unhelpful that I gave up. >>> >>> I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe >>> you >>> still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? >>> If >>> they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to >>> Ms >>> Office on the Mac. >>> >>> I am sorry not to be more helpful. >>> >>> With best and warmest wishes >>> >>> Simon >>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: >>> Hi folks, Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any other Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each with VO? Thanks James > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well. LaTeX is far nicer under Mac OS X than Windows. Justin On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be > more > than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a > downloadable free 15 day demo if you like. > > Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word > processor > like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus > version. > > Take care > > James > - Original Message - > From: "Simon Cavendish" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM > Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > >> >> Dear James, >> >> I have been following various posts on this list but to date I >> haven't >> heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade >> me >> that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some >> people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of >> success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so >> unhelpful that I gave up. >> >> I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you >> still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? >> If >> they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms >> Office on the Mac. >> >> I am sorry not to be more helpful. >> >> With best and warmest wishes >> >> Simon >> On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >>> other >>> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each >>> with >>> VO? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> James >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
Thank you. It certainly does. Can I suggest that you check out Nisus Writer too? Got to: www.nisus.com Thanks james - Original Message - From: "Koumanova Rostislava" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:10 PM Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > hi, > i use text edit allways , pages and open office. > > text edit is not a simple note editor and is very potential, eg. > saves tables, links ecc > iwork is as great as word ... and it is useful to open doc from > moffice and insert formatting such as header or foot nottes. i love > it's comment capacity, something which i never used with jaws. > i don't have i works and i save with open office. it is great for > handling different formats such as pdf or word. > you can copy some files and paste in open office , it gives you only > text. > i hope this makes sense for you. > rk > > > > > Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 21:48, James & Nash ha scritto: > >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >> other >> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each >> with >> VO? >> >> Thanks >> >> James >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
Hi Simon, Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be more than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You can get a downloadable free 15 day demo if you like. Although i use Latex for writing, it is always grat to use a word processor like Nisus. When i get my new Mac I will look at the new Nisus version. Take care James - Original Message - From: "Simon Cavendish" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:03 PM Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > Dear James, > > I have been following various posts on this list but to date I haven't > heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade me > that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some > people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of > success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so > unhelpful that I gave up. > > I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you > still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? If > they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms > Office on the Mac. > > I am sorry not to be more helpful. > > With best and warmest wishes > > Simon > On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >> other >> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each >> with >> VO? >> >> Thanks >> >> James >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
I have used Nisus in the past, and yes it was. There were a few access issues but I hope these will have been fixed. They are a great bunch at Nisus. BTW can Pages be bought seperately from the online store? Take care james - Original Message - From: "Alex Jurgensen" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:00 PM Subject: Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X > > HI, > James: > > Pages and Open Office 3.x are accessible, though neither has tables > support yet. I have heard that the other one you mentioned is > accessible too. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 7-Jul-09, at 12:48 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >> other >> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each >> with >> VO? >> >> Thanks >> >> James >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
Dear Rostislava, The major problems I have encountered trying to use Nisus Writer Pro is a lack of certainty in formatting. I would not know for instance when I was inserting bullets or other features. When toggling attributes like bold or udnerline, i do not know whether i toggle them on or off. It's difficult remember every time to do it. And of course, there is a problem with tables. I don't know when I am in the table and which row or column I am in. If you have had more success, and if you are, lie me, a completely, blind person, I would be interested in your experiences. I also have documents for which I would have to create headers or footers. AGain, it is an uncertainty of whre I am: main body text or header or footer, and having feedback about formatting. With best wishes Simon On 7 Jul 2009, at 21:14, Koumanova Rostislava wrote: > > hi, > what are your needs? > since i swich to mac i never needed to turn back. > open office is very similar to ms office at least it has everything in > the menu format. > > rk > > Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 22:03, Simon Cavendish ha scritto: > >> >> Dear James, >> >> I have been following various posts on this list but to date I >> haven't >> heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade >> me >> that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some >> people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of >> success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so >> unhelpful that I gave up. >> >> I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you >> still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? >> If >> they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms >> Office on the Mac. >> >> I am sorry not to be more helpful. >> >> With best and warmest wishes >> >> Simon >> On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >>> other >>> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each >>> with >>> VO? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> James >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
hi, what are your needs? since i swich to mac i never needed to turn back. open office is very similar to ms office at least it has everything in the menu format. rk Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 22:03, Simon Cavendish ha scritto: > > Dear James, > > I have been following various posts on this list but to date I haven't > heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade me > that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some > people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of > success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so > unhelpful that I gave up. > > I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you > still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? If > they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms > Office on the Mac. > > I am sorry not to be more helpful. > > With best and warmest wishes > > Simon > On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >> other >> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each >> with >> VO? >> >> Thanks >> >> James >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
I recommend OpenOffice. With Writer you have access to bullets and tables. With those two things, you can make a pretty decent technical document. Just a note about the tables: You might not think that you can do anything with Them at first, but it does work. However, Text presented in a table on a help page is unreadable by VO. I've been in tuch with the developers about this. On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:00 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > HI, > James: > > Pages and Open Office 3.x are accessible, though neither has tables > support yet. I have heard that the other one you mentioned is > accessible too. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 7-Jul-09, at 12:48 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any >> other >> Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each >> with >> VO? >> >> Thanks >> >> James >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
hi, i use text edit allways , pages and open office. text edit is not a simple note editor and is very potential, eg. saves tables, links ecc iwork is as great as word ... and it is useful to open doc from moffice and insert formatting such as header or foot nottes. i love it's comment capacity, something which i never used with jaws. i don't have i works and i save with open office. it is great for handling different formats such as pdf or word. you can copy some files and paste in open office , it gives you only text. i hope this makes sense for you. rk Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 21:48, James & Nash ha scritto: > > Hi folks, > > Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any > other > Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each > with > VO? > > Thanks > > James > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
Dear James, I have been following various posts on this list but to date I haven't heard anything reassuring about Pages or Iworks that would persuade me that I could ditch Ms Office under Windows. However, I know that some people have used Pages and other applications with a degree of success. I've looked at the help files in Pages but I found them so unhelpful that I gave up. I seem to remember that you had some contacts with Nisus Pro. ARe you still able to talk to them about accessbility of their application? If they took our need on board, I feel they would be a great rival to Ms Office on the Mac. I am sorry not to be more helpful. With best and warmest wishes Simon On 7 Jul 2009, at 20:48, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any > other > Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each > with > VO? > > Thanks > > James > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Processing on Mac OS X
HI, James: Pages and Open Office 3.x are accessible, though neither has tables support yet. I have heard that the other one you mentioned is accessible too. Regards, Alex, On 7-Jul-09, at 12:48 PM, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any > other > Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each > with > VO? > > Thanks > > James > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Word Processing on Mac OS X
Hi folks, Does anyone use Pages or Nisus Writer Pro on Mac OS X or indeed any other Mac word processor please? If so, what is the acce3ssibility of each with VO? Thanks James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
