[maemo-developers] Lovin' the Maemo Community
Title: Nokia Standard Document Template Hi, folks! I’m a user interface designer in the Enterprise Solutions unit in Boston – far away and removed from the folks who are in charge of the Nokia 770 somewhere in Finland. (Unfortunately!) I _personally_ love the device and think it’s wicked cool. A handful of my co-workers here in Boston are also big fans. Anyways, I just wanted to say that I’m so glad there’s such a great community of talented people working to improve the Maemo OS and create compelling apps to run on it. I wish I could contribute more myself, but although I’m a hobbyist programmer in my spare time, I only know C#. Perhaps someday the Mono project can get ported to Maemo, too – wouldn’t that be cool? Maybe I haven’t been paying attention, but is there someplace where projects post talent needs? Perhaps I can still contribute in some way with my user experience design and usability skills – unofficially and in my spare time. (My day job is related to designing software for Eseries phones.) If you need a helping hand, please give me a buzz directly. BTW, and again, this is my _personal_ opinion, but I think it’s great validation of this market space that Sony has released the Mylo and Microsoft is releasing the Origami. I think the Maemo platform has greater potential and is more exciting because it’s open that those guys. The goods news is probably that Sony and Microsoft will do a lot to help develop the market overall for Internet tablet/PDAs, and the Maemo platform will surely benefit. Another comment regarding recent requests for more transparency from Nokia on the roadmap. Note that I have *NO IDEA* what’s going on because I’m far, far away from things here in Boston and this is my _personal_ opinion… Upstairs they’re developing the new Open Source browser for the S60 release 3 devices. The core of the OSS browser is the same as Apple’s Safari, as most of you probably know, and it’s wicked cool. It’s a quantum leap forward for browsing on the severely resource constrained mobile phones. Folks should keep in mind that Nokia has been gingerly stepping up to take active roles in more open source projects, the OSS browser and Maemo being two prime examples. With the OS browser, Nokia is deeply committed to developing the project and honoring the spirit of the open source aspect of it. But given the company’s general lack of experience with big OSS projects like this, I think you’ll hear OSS browser leaders talk about the learning curve involved. Part of what those folks are trying to do is get the OSS browser to a suitable level of maturity before opening up the OS portions – and then working with Apple to manage/coordinate/nurture the community contributions, which is also a big effort. (BTW, I think the OSS portions were recently published.) I think I’ve heard on this board, also, that there’s been a learning curve for the Nokians involved in Maemo. I think the community should definitely continue to push Nokia on issues that are important to the community. That pressure is a key channel for how Nokia as a company learns to be a good OSS community citizen. But also keep in mind that Nokia feels strong competitive pressures and is still a BIG COMPANY that can sometimes act very slowly. Remember the shiny new Mylo and Origami products mentioned above? Nokia has to walk a fine line between transparency and tipping off the *evil* closed source competitors too early. (Just kidding on the evil part!) Nokia probably won’t always find the right balance there, but that’s why it’s important for the discourse to remain _open_ and _civil_ on all sides… Anyways, thanks again to everyone involved on this project. I love dropping by the Applications page on the wiki from time to time to see what’s new! It’s really exciting to see a young platform like this get stronger and more compelling every day… Cheers, Anthony Hand ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] IMPORTANT: vulnerability in ApplicationManager, please check your repositories
>However, Clue #1: professionalism is not referring to >customers through an official channel as living in "twisted >little world"s. > >Cheers, > >Andrew Hi, I fully agree with you on that. However please note that we do not have an official speak-person giving politically correct statements here but rather a group of interested individuals that all have own personalities, good and bad days. Just like any other mailing list. We won't let David go talk to the public on any "official channel" (this is maemo-developers mailing list), be assured, there are professionals doing that :) It puts a serious pressure on contributors to post here, as comments coming from @nokia.com address often undergo scrutiny and start speculations. Lets keep the discussion on the technical level. We are engineers, not marketing and sales. Keep that in mind when reading our posts and please bear with us :) Br, --jakub ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] IMPORTANT: vulnerability in ApplicationManager, please check your repositories
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: > It puts a serious pressure on contributors to post here, as comments > coming from @nokia.com address often undergo scrutiny and start > speculations. Lets keep the discussion on the technical level. We are > engineers, not marketing and sales. Keep that in mind when reading our > posts and please bear with us :) If so, those people should not use their @nokia.com mail address when making statements, but their own, non-work address. regards, Kien -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFQG8mMkyGM64RGpERAtRGAJ9Ar6RQ9LGbegcxzWmbJ3eTHcHM8ACfXWz/ eVEXNFB4/T887DdMNRJZzmI= =UBBF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] IMPORTANT: vulnerability in ApplicationManager, please check your repositories
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 10:17:42AM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: > > > It puts a serious pressure on contributors to post here, as comments > > coming from @nokia.com address often undergo scrutiny and start > > speculations. Lets keep the discussion on the technical level. We are > > engineers, not marketing and sales. Keep that in mind when reading our > > posts and please bear with us :) > > If so, those people should not use their @nokia.com mail address when making > statements, > but their own, non-work address. That's exactly my intention... :) -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: maemo-developers Digest, Vol 18, Issue 34
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 14:54 -0400, ext Bob Herrmann wrote: > Any usb keyboard should work, but mouse support seems to be another > story. Just hooking up a usb mouse doesn't appear to work. I believe > this is because the X server is tweaked out to work with the touch > screen and compatibility with a mouse (like showing a cursor to report > it's position) wasnt considered important. ... You can see the cursor if you remove the symbolic link /home/user/.icons. (But that is where my knowledge ends and X geniuses need to step in.) BR; Kimmo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Remote debugger
Hi, did a remote debugging facilities is available for Nokia 770.If not is this planned? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: maemo-developers Digest, Vol 18, Issue 34
ext Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: > On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 14:54 -0400, ext Bob Herrmann wrote: > > >> Any usb keyboard should work, but mouse support seems to be another >> story. Just hooking up a usb mouse doesn't appear to work. I believe >> this is because the X server is tweaked out to work with the touch >> screen and compatibility with a mouse (like showing a cursor to report >> it's position) wasnt considered important. >> > ... > > You can see the cursor if you remove the symbolic > link /home/user/.icons. > (But that is where my knowledge ends and X geniuses need to step in.) > > Yep, we are using a 'invisible cursor theme' for Gtk, it is used instead of X defaults. You can remove link, or if you want to use own cursorimage instead of invisible one you can simply copy it to '/usr/share/icons/xcursor-transparent/cursors/transp'. The reason for using this theme is that cursor icon is used for tap&hold animation, therefore we actually still have cursor (would be also possible to hide completely from X server by disabling driver funcs implementing that). > BR; Kimmo > > // Tapani > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: maemo-developers Digest, Vol 18, Issue 34
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 02:10:08PM +0300, ext Tapani Pälli wrote: > ext Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 14:54 -0400, ext Bob Herrmann wrote: > >> Any usb keyboard should work, but mouse support seems to be another > >> story. Just hooking up a usb mouse doesn't appear to work. I believe > >> this is because the X server is tweaked out to work with the touch > >> screen and compatibility with a mouse (like showing a cursor to report > >> it's position) wasnt considered important. > > > > You can see the cursor if you remove the symbolic > > link /home/user/.icons. > > (But that is where my knowledge ends and X geniuses need to step in.) > > Yep, we are using a 'invisible cursor theme' for Gtk, it is used instead > of X defaults. You can remove link, or if you want to use own > cursorimage instead of invisible one you can simply copy it to > '/usr/share/icons/xcursor-transparent/cursors/transp'. > > The reason for using this theme is that cursor icon is used for tap&hold > animation, therefore we actually still have cursor (would be also > possible to hide completely from X server by disabling driver funcs > implementing that). That only works for GTK apps though. The core X cursor has still been hacked to be invisible; this will be configurable in some later stage, in a hypothetical firmware release that may or may not ever get made[0]. The code's been written. Cheers, Daniel [0]: I'm not a marketer, I'm a hacker. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] gtk, gstreamer movie window = problem
Hi!
I tried to solve this problem but still the same happens. I'm running
program from xterm so I think I don't need osso_initialize(), and on
console I don't get any error messages. This is code I'm using (I'm
out of ideas what can be wrong):
//main gui function
gui(){
HildonProgram *app;
/* Create the hildon application and setup the title */
app = HILDON_PROGRAM (hildon_program_get_instance ());
g_set_application_name ("Menu Example App");
/* Create HildonAppView and set it to HildonApp */
appview = HILDON_WINDOW (hildon_window_new ());
hildon_program_add_window (app, appview);
/* Create menu for view */
create_menu (appview);
///box1 = gtk_hbox_new (FALSE, 0);
///box2 = gtk_vbox_new (homogeneous, spacing);
///label = gtk_label_new ("Volume:");
///gtk_misc_set_alignment (GTK_MISC (label), 0, 0);
///gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (box2), label, FALSE, FALSE, 0);
///gtk_widget_show (label);
///adj1 = gtk_adjustment_new (1.0, 0.0, 4.0, 0.1, 1.0, 1.0);
///g_signal_connect (G_OBJECT (adj1), "value_changed",G_CALLBACK
(cb_digits_scale), NULL);
///scale = gtk_vscrollbar_new (GTK_ADJUSTMENT (adj1));
///gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (box2), scale, TRUE, TRUE, 0);
///gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (box1), box2, expand, fill, padding);
content = gtk_event_box_new ();
gtk_container_add (GTK_CONTAINER (appview), content);
GstBus *bus;
bus = gst_pipeline_get_bus (GST_PIPELINE (pipeline));
gst_bus_set_sync_handler (bus, (GstBusSyncHandler) create_window, NULL);
gst_object_unref (bus);
g_signal_connect (content, "expose-event", G_CALLBACK (cb_expose),
videosink);
//gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (box1), content, TRUE, TRUE, padding);
///gtk_container_add (GTK_CONTAINER (appview), box1);
///gtk_widget_show (box1);
gtk_widget_show_all (appview);
g_signal_connect(G_OBJECT(appview), "delete_event",
G_CALLBACK(item_close_cb), NULL);
}
//callback functins
static GstBusSyncReply
create_window (GstBus * bus, GstMessage * message, GstPipeline * pipeline)
{
XGCValues values;
if (GST_MESSAGE_TYPE (message) != GST_MESSAGE_ELEMENT)
return GST_BUS_PASS;
if (!gst_structure_has_name (message->structure, "prepare-xwindow-id"))
return GST_BUS_PASS;
// ignore anything but 'prepare-xwindow-id' element messages
content = gtk_event_box_new ();
gst_x_overlay_set_xwindow_id (GST_X_OVERLAY
(GST_MESSAGE_SRC (message)),
content->window);
return GST_BUS_DROP;
}
cb_expose (GtkWidget * w, GdkEventExpose * ev, GstElement * e)
{
if (GST_IS_X_OVERLAY (e) &&
!GTK_WIDGET_NO_WINDOW (w) && GTK_WIDGET_REALIZED (w))
{
gst_x_overlay_set_xwindow_id (GST_X_OVERLAY (e),
GDK_WINDOW_XWINDOW (w->window));
}
}
As described in
http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/data/doc/gstreamer/head/gst-plugins-base-libs/html/gst-plugins-base-libs-gstxoverlay.html#desc
you need to set it in a message handler in order to set it at the right time.
This sounds indeed like the element creates the window itself instead
of using the one you want.
--
Kalle Vahlman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Powered by http://movial.fi
Interesting stuff at http://syslog.movial.fi
--
Regards,
-= Bartosz Put =-
___
maemo-developers mailing list
maemo-developers@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Lovin' the Maemo Community
Ola > Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but is there someplace where > projects post talent needs? Perhaps I can still contribute in some way > with my user experience design and usability skills - unofficially and > in my spare time. (My day job is related to designing software for > Eseries phones.) If you need a helping hand, please give me a buzz > directly. have a look on https://garage.maemo.org/people/ The garage Project Help Wanted board is for non-commercial, project volunteer openings. Commercial use is prohibited. There should be some volunteer openings up there soon i imagine after the migration is done []'s Ian -- .''`. : :' : `. `'` `- Orgulhoso ser MetaRecicleiro http://blogs.metareciclagem.org/manaus http://ianlawrence.info ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Re: sardine deletes /etc/apt/sources.list?
On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 10:28 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: > I'm fairly sure that the mistral->sardine upgrade is deleting > my /etc/apt/sources.list file. Is it just me? It wasn't just me, and it's fixed, apparently: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=811 -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] gtk, gstreamer movie window = problem
2006/10/26, cmonst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi!
I tried to solve this problem but still the same happens. I'm running
program from xterm so I think I don't need osso_initialize(), and on
console I don't get any error messages.
Depends, if you
a) have a .desktop file for it
b) define a service there
then you need to call it, otherwise it won't matter I guess... (in the
"will it be killed" context).
This is code I'm using (I'm
out of ideas what can be wrong):
//main gui function
gui(){
HildonProgram *app;
/* Create the hildon application and setup the title */
app = HILDON_PROGRAM (hildon_program_get_instance ());
g_set_application_name ("Menu Example App");
/* Create HildonAppView and set it to HildonApp */
appview = HILDON_WINDOW (hildon_window_new ());
hildon_program_add_window (app, appview);
/* Create menu for view */
create_menu (appview);
///box1 = gtk_hbox_new (FALSE, 0);
///box2 = gtk_vbox_new (homogeneous, spacing);
///label = gtk_label_new ("Volume:");
///gtk_misc_set_alignment (GTK_MISC (label), 0, 0);
///gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (box2), label, FALSE, FALSE, 0);
///gtk_widget_show (label);
///adj1 = gtk_adjustment_new (1.0, 0.0, 4.0, 0.1, 1.0, 1.0);
///g_signal_connect (G_OBJECT (adj1), "value_changed",G_CALLBACK
(cb_digits_scale), NULL);
///scale = gtk_vscrollbar_new (GTK_ADJUSTMENT (adj1));
///gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (box2), scale, TRUE, TRUE, 0);
///gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (box1), box2, expand, fill, padding);
content = gtk_event_box_new ();
gtk_container_add (GTK_CONTAINER (appview), content);
GstBus *bus;
bus = gst_pipeline_get_bus (GST_PIPELINE (pipeline));
gst_bus_set_sync_handler (bus, (GstBusSyncHandler) create_window, NULL);
gst_object_unref (bus);
g_signal_connect (content, "expose-event", G_CALLBACK (cb_expose),
videosink);
//gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (box1), content, TRUE, TRUE, padding);
///gtk_container_add (GTK_CONTAINER (appview), box1);
///gtk_widget_show (box1);
gtk_widget_show_all (appview);
g_signal_connect(G_OBJECT(appview), "delete_event",
G_CALLBACK(item_close_cb), NULL);
}
//callback functins
static GstBusSyncReply
create_window (GstBus * bus, GstMessage * message, GstPipeline * pipeline)
{
XGCValues values;
if (GST_MESSAGE_TYPE (message) != GST_MESSAGE_ELEMENT)
return GST_BUS_PASS;
if (!gst_structure_has_name (message->structure, "prepare-xwindow-id"))
return GST_BUS_PASS;
// ignore anything but 'prepare-xwindow-id' element messages
content = gtk_event_box_new ();
You are creating this again here ;)
gst_x_overlay_set_xwindow_id (GST_X_OVERLAY
(GST_MESSAGE_SRC (message)),
content->window);
You are giving the window pointer to the function, instead of the X id
of it. Use the GDK_WINDOW_XID() macro to get the X window id for the
window.
You also need to be sure the GdkWindow of the event box is already
created when you set it (otherwise the window pointer might be NULL or
whatever), this can be done by calling gtk_widget_realize() on the
event box. I suggest doing it just before entering the gtk main loop.
cb_expose (GtkWidget * w, GdkEventExpose * ev, GstElement * e)
{
if (GST_IS_X_OVERLAY (e) &&
!GTK_WIDGET_NO_WINDOW (w) && GTK_WIDGET_REALIZED (w))
{
gst_x_overlay_set_xwindow_id (GST_X_OVERLAY (e),
GDK_WINDOW_XWINDOW (w->window));
}
}
This should be removed too, as it may conflict with the setting above
(and the call to gst_x_overlay_set_xwindow_id() should happen exactly
once AFAIK).
--
Kalle Vahlman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Powered by http://movial.fi
Interesting stuff at http://syslog.movial.fi
___
maemo-developers mailing list
maemo-developers@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Not getting bugzilla notifications
I don't seem to be getting email notifications of changes to my bugs in the maemo bugzilla. Could someone take a look? -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] locked myself out of garage
Hi, I managed to shoot myself in the foot on https://garage.maemo.org/project/admin/?group_id=110 . I locked myself out of the "Admin" section... (Curiousity got the better of me and I touched buttons I shouldn't have) Can someone let me in again please? :) (My account is "dannym") cheers, Danny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] locked myself out of garage
ext Danny Milosavljevic wrote: [...] > I locked myself out of the "Admin" section... > (Curiousity got the better of me and I touched buttons I shouldn't have) > Don't worry, this happens often ;). Teemu has updated your account already, as you probably noticed. In case you need help on garage related issues then please drop an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. All the admins are eagerly waiting for request like yours ;) > cheers, > Danny > cheers, ferenc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Re: locked myself out of garage
Hi, On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:31:28 +, Danny Milosavljevic wrote: > Can someone let me in again please? :) Teemu Hukkanen fixed it, thanks Teemu :) cheers, Danny ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] IMPORTANT: vulnerability in Application Manager, please check your repositories
Hi Andrew On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 10:44:23PM +0100, Andrew Flegg wrote: > From a technical PoV, IT 2005 and IT 2006 have been completely > different, though: lots of minor releases to fix bugs in the former; > nothing like that with the latter - but there's Sardine instead. That's a very good point: we did not seem to produce any bugfix releases for IT 2006. > >> Either way, some professionalism would be nice. > >It's certainly a matter of definition :) Please do define it and we'll > >see if it's possible to follow your definition... > > Although I take your point, TBH, I've got better and more productive > things to do with my time than define English words and idioms. If > Nokia want to employ consultants on CRM and Assertiveness without > Aggression[1] that's their perogative. I'm sorry, I did not want to start any linguistic discussions. What I should have said is: Nokia has lots of practices and policies that have long history. Our product and everything that happens around it challenges (Nokia word :)) those practices and any changes won't take one day or even one year. From the other hand, open source projects and activities in general somehow imply certain expectations toward maemo and its components that we do not always can meet. :) So, returning to "professionalism" word, I'd say we act quite professionally from Nokia practices point of view, and we might look not exactly professional from other points, hence the "definition". You can help us by stating your expectations. > However, Clue #1: professionalism is not referring to customers > through an official channel as living in "twisted little world"s. This is clearly one of those :D Kind Regards, -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Re: usb mouse
Ok, so If I change the cursor to be visible, does the 770 work with any usb mouse? Or is there a configuration change I need to make to the X server? This is for the use case "I'm traveling and have 3 hours to tinker in a hotel and want to use a travel mouse and keyboard to hack a python/ruby ditty to tabulate my expenses" - which is a pretty hard sell to anyone other than the developer crowd. -bob Tapani Pälli wrote: ext Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 14:54 -0400, ext Bob Herrmann wrote: Any usb keyboard should work, but mouse support seems to be another story. Just hooking up a usb mouse doesn't appear to work. I believe this is because the X server is tweaked out to work with the touch screen and compatibility with a mouse (like showing a cursor to report it's position) wasnt considered important. ... You can see the cursor if you remove the symbolic link /home/user/.icons. (But that is where my knowledge ends and X geniuses need to step in.) Yep, we are using a 'invisible cursor theme' for Gtk, it is used instead of X defaults. You can remove link, or if you want to use own cursorimage instead of invisible one you can simply copy it to '/usr/share/icons/xcursor-transparent/cursors/transp'. The reason for using this theme is that cursor icon is used for tap&hold animation, therefore we actually still have cursor (would be also possible to hide completely from X server by disabling driver funcs implementing that). BR; Kimmo // Tapani ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] IMPORTANT: vulnerability in Application Manager, please check your repositories
On 10/26/06, Mikhail Sobolev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 10:44:23PM +0100, Andrew Flegg wrote: > From a technical PoV, IT 2005 and IT 2006 have been completely > different, though: lots of minor releases to fix bugs in the former; > nothing like that with the latter - but there's Sardine instead. That's a very good point: we did not seem to produce any bugfix releases for IT 2006. It'd be interesting to see why you think this is. For example, is there an internal perception that IT 2006 is just "more finished" than IT 2005, or because efforts have been redirected into Sardine (and now Herring)? [snip the rest, I think we can probably put that safely to bed] Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] IMPORTANT: vulnerability in Application Manager, please check your repositories
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 06:20:02PM +0100, Andrew Flegg wrote: > On 10/26/06, Mikhail Sobolev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 10:44:23PM +0100, Andrew Flegg wrote: > >> From a technical PoV, IT 2005 and IT 2006 have been completely > >> different, though: lots of minor releases to fix bugs in the former; > >> nothing like that with the latter - but there's Sardine instead. > >That's a very good point: we did not seem to produce any bugfix > >releases for IT 2006. > > It'd be interesting to see why you think this is. For example, is there an > internal perception that IT 2006 is just "more finished" than IT 2005, or > because efforts have been redirected into Sardine (and now Herring)? It's a good point because when we released IT2005 and then released a number of bugfix releases for it, we showed that every release would be followed by fixes. And when we released IT2006 no bugfix releases were made for quite some time. As for internal perception, this is a sensitive topic. What I can say for sure is that "more finished" and Sardine/Herring are not releated at all. As far as I understand (most likely Carlos would be a better person to comment on this): * Sardine is the latest and greatest * Herring is what is stabilized toward _next_ stable release I do not see how it relates with bugfixe releases, so Carlos is the best person to describe the whole cycle. > [snip the rest, I think we can probably put that safely to bed] Pity. :-/ Kind Regards, -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] IMPORTANT: vulnerability in Application Manager, please check your repositories
On 10/26/06, Mikhail Sobolev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip interesting points about bugfix releases] On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 06:20:02PM +0100, Andrew Flegg wrote: > [snip the rest, I think we can probably put that safely to bed] Pity. :-/ Well, if you insist: IMHO, I think the people participating from within Nokia with the external community (whether via mailing lists or IRC) is largely spot-on in terms of attitude, approach and helpfulness. Which makes the exceptions even more glaring. The development process issues about openness and discussion with the community about future plans have already been discussed, and not necessarily relevant to a "tone" discussion. Similarly for when questions go unanswered (but the "outstanding issues" post helps here). HTH, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] RE: Boot to a different look?
Hi All, I am new to Maemo and Linux programming in general. I have scanned through the archived developer mailing list but I did not see similar subject. I am wondering if I could adjust Maemo to boot to a different look like the picture link below: http://news.yahoo.com/photo/061026/480/f26319e8ffdb4d90b1c5b50cc077bc13# How difficult would it be to adjust Maemo to boot to a blank screen that filled with just application's icon buttons? Would it involve source code adjustment? Would booting to an application like a web browser with buttons solves my problem? Or may be I should not even use Maemo? Thanks in advance for any pointers/suggestions. Sincerely, Cheon-Woei Ng ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] RE: Boot to a different look?
On Thursday 26 October 2006 16:22, Ng, Cheon-woei wrote: > Hi All, > > I am new to Maemo and Linux programming in general. I have scanned > through the archived developer mailing list but I did not see similar > subject. > > I am wondering if I could adjust Maemo to boot to a different look like > the picture link below: > > http://news.yahoo.com/photo/061026/480/f26319e8ffdb4d90b1c5b50cc077bc13# You're kidding, right? > How difficult would it be to adjust Maemo to boot to a blank screen that > filled with just application's icon buttons? Would it involve source > code adjustment? Would booting to an application like a web browser > with buttons solves my problem? Or may be I should not even use Maemo? > > Thanks in advance for any pointers/suggestions. > > Sincerely, > Cheon-Woei Ng > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Andrew Barr Now playing: The Police - Hungry For You (J'aurais Toujours Faim De Toi) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] RE: Boot to a different look?
No, not kidding. : ( I am actually being asked to look into this possibility. Like boot to a blank screen with just several buttons. I would need to report back if it is possible or not, and why. Woei -Original Message- From: Andrew J. Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:29 PM To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Cc: Ng, Cheon-woei Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] RE: Boot to a different look? On Thursday 26 October 2006 16:22, Ng, Cheon-woei wrote: > Hi All, > > I am new to Maemo and Linux programming in general. I have scanned > through the archived developer mailing list but I did not see similar > subject. > > I am wondering if I could adjust Maemo to boot to a different look like > the picture link below: > > http://news.yahoo.com/photo/061026/480/f26319e8ffdb4d90b1c5b50cc077bc13# You're kidding, right? > How difficult would it be to adjust Maemo to boot to a blank screen that > filled with just application's icon buttons? Would it involve source > code adjustment? Would booting to an application like a web browser > with buttons solves my problem? Or may be I should not even use Maemo? > > Thanks in advance for any pointers/suggestions. > > Sincerely, > Cheon-Woei Ng > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Andrew Barr Now playing: The Police - Hungry For You (J'aurais Toujours Faim De Toi) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] RE: Boot to a different look?
On Thursday 26 October 2006 16:33, Ng, Cheon-woei wrote: > No, not kidding. : ( > > I am actually being asked to look into this possibility. Like boot to a > blank screen with just several buttons. I would need to report back if > it is possible or not, and why. Well, my (implied) point was you are asking on a list that is hosted by Nokia and has a significant number of Nokian subscribers. The link you gave was to a Sony device that looks like a competitor of the 770. I think that what you want would be possible within the Maemo framework, however. Changing the bootup graphic, at least for later stages of the boot, should be fairly easy, but you may run into issues if the bootloader also has a graphic display (the bootloader code is closed AFAIK). Having a button menu should be possible by writing a Maemo/Hildon application and having it start instead of the desktop process. I don't know the down-and-dirty specifics of this, someone else will have to help you there, but I do think it is possible. > Woei -- Andrew Barr Now playing: The Police - Message In A Bottle ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] RE: Boot to a different look?
Hi Andrew, Sorry. I wasn't thinking about your implied point. I thought the picture would explain better what I am looking for and I was not trying to offend anyone. Thanks for your advice. It would be great if booting to an application would do the job. I was hoping that I would not need to adjust Maemo's source code to achieve my objective. Cheon-Woei Ng -Original Message- From: Andrew J. Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:43 PM To: Ng, Cheon-woei Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] RE: Boot to a different look? On Thursday 26 October 2006 16:33, Ng, Cheon-woei wrote: > No, not kidding. : ( > > I am actually being asked to look into this possibility. Like boot to a > blank screen with just several buttons. I would need to report back if > it is possible or not, and why. Well, my (implied) point was you are asking on a list that is hosted by Nokia and has a significant number of Nokian subscribers. The link you gave was to a Sony device that looks like a competitor of the 770. I think that what you want would be possible within the Maemo framework, however. Changing the bootup graphic, at least for later stages of the boot, should be fairly easy, but you may run into issues if the bootloader also has a graphic display (the bootloader code is closed AFAIK). Having a button menu should be possible by writing a Maemo/Hildon application and having it start instead of the desktop process. I don't know the down-and-dirty specifics of this, someone else will have to help you there, but I do think it is possible. > Woei -- Andrew Barr Now playing: The Police - Message In A Bottle ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Avoiding loopback local IP address mode in WIFI connections using Internet Tablet OS 2006
Hi,
On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 15:09 +0200, ext Sebastian Spaeth wrote:
> that this is not a WEP issue or related to signal strength etc.. If I
> manually assign IP, DNS etc the 770 can use the connection just fine.
Ok
.
> P.S. 00:14:a7:fa:87:e5 should be my N770. The 770 continues to send DHCP
> requests frequently even after it connected using a link-local connection.
Yes, it is supposed to do that. As tcpdump shows, requests are sent but
no replies are heard. Does anyone know where the Powerbook might store
its DHCP server log files?
Is the Powerbook the one setting up the WLAN network or is there an AP
in between? If the Powerbook created the WLAN, does it run in ad-hoc or
managed ("access point") mode (e.g. the WLAN icon in the 770 is set
according to the WLAN mode)?
Cheers,
Patrik
--
Patrik Flykt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
___
maemo-developers mailing list
maemo-developers@maemo.org
https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] RE: Boot to a different look?
ext Ng, Cheon-woei wrote: > Hi All, > > I am new to Maemo and Linux programming in general. I have scanned > through the archived developer mailing list but I did not see similar > subject. > > I am wondering if I could adjust Maemo to boot to a different look like > the picture link below: > > http://news.yahoo.com/photo/061026/480/f26319e8ffdb4d90b1c5b50cc077bc13# > > > How difficult would it be to adjust Maemo to boot to a blank screen that > filled with just application's icon buttons? Would it involve source > code adjustment? Would booting to an application like a web browser > with buttons solves my problem? Or may be I should not even use Maemo? > > Not that difficult. All you need is to modify the bootup scripts to start only what's needed (check scripts in /etc/osso-af-init directory) and make your own program that shows the icons. No source code changes should be needed, just editing the shellscripts. I think there might come some problems of not having maemo-af-desktop there but they are all solvable. > Thanks in advance for any pointers/suggestions. > > Sincerely, > Cheon-Woei Ng > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > // Tapani ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
