Re: Boot bora as root

2007-04-26 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Chris Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 yes, I did get your private mail and you were correct as to the
 cause of my problem..  I'll look forward to seeing sardine roll out.
 Is the application installer from sardine binary compatible with bora?

No, packages compiled in Sardine unstable will not be installable on
IT OS 2007.  Sardine unstable as a whole is 'binary compatible' with
bora in the sense that you should be able to upgrade a IT OS 2007
device to Sardine unstable.  You don't want to do this, tho, just to
get the fixed Application Manager.

 I'm hoping ya'll have fixed this to take into account people running
 the front-end as root and not simply failing gracefully??

Err, no. :) The fix makes it only fail gracefully... can't you fix
sudo to also work when used by root?
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Re: Continuous reboot problem with the N770 hacker edition

2007-04-26 Thread Ian
Hi,
Not sure but maybe this will help you.
At the moment I am working my way through a 'branding' tutorial for my 770:
http://blog.2blocksaway.com/files/maemo-1.pdf

it seems using this you can replace totally the desktop/bookmarks/boot-up 
splash screens and so on
using a custom .deb. You can also install the apps you want after your new 
desktop is installed in
a postinstall shell script which calls dpkg -i on the app you want
[]'s
Ian
 Hi Markku,


 I have no idea how I can replace the binary when the N770 is rebooting itself
 before the desktop is up :-( Is that possible?

 If not, that translates for me, that I have to reinstall the N770. Are there
 any plans to update the N770 hacker edition image in near future to fix bugs 
 like this? If yes, I
 would probably wait for a few days and test the updated image (and would be 
 happy to pick up the
 other improvements;-)

 Thanks,
 Rainer



 Am Mittwoch, 25. April 2007 09:31 schrieben Sie:

 Hi,


 Hacker edition is based on same software than the _original_ N800
 release. The first update for N800 is likely to contain many updated 
 packages.

 RSS applet was not modified for hacker edition, so if it's causing
 problems, you might be able to replace the old binary by new one just by 
 copying the new version
 to your 770.

 -Markku-


 Rainer Dorsch wrote:

 Am Montag, 23. April 2007 10:16 schrieb Eero Tamminen:


 ...clip...


 This sounds like Desktop crashing.  If you have RSS applet enabled
 in Desktop *and* the Hacker edition is based on a version earlier than the 
 latest N800
 release, it could be a the crasher bug in RSS applet that was fixed to the 
 latest release
 (once it got a feed item with
 a strange URL, the applet always crashed (Desktop) immediately after
 applet had been loaded by the Desktop).


 - Eero


 PS. In gnome Desktop the crasher bugs in panel applets are not so fatal
 because they are run as separate processes.  You notice this easily from 
 the Gnome desktop
 memory usage...

 Eero,


 thanks for the quick reply.

 SU-18_2007HACKER_2.2006.47-17_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin


 was installed on the device. Not sure, if that was based on the latest 
 release. I am not sure,
 if I disabled RSS, at least I did not customize it.

 Can I boot the device from an external image on the MMC card or provided
 by flasher to find out what the root cause of the problem is/was?

 Thanks for the explanation, why you hae a single process, causing the
 complete desktop to die when an applet has a problem.

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Re: soup2.2 and soup2.2-8 don't make a good broth (gpe build problem)

2007-04-26 Thread Graham Cobb
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 12:00, Santtu Lakkala wrote:
 marc zonzon wrote:
  Nokia-N800-10:~# apt-cache show libsoup2.2
  Package: libsoup2.2

 This otoh seems like self-packaged from the start. The gnutls-stuff is
 most likely dropped to get fewer dependencies (and no https support).
 This one seems to be based on a newer svn snapshot, dunno if there's
 some bugfix/new feature the gpe stuff needs.

I am very likely to have messed up the packaging!  I don't remember the 
sequence of events but most likely either I wasn't aware of the maemo-hackers 
version or I had to create a separate version to keep MUD happy (I am keen to 
get GPE into MUD so that it is easily and quickly buildable for new OS 
releases).

I don't think there is any particular reason why it is built from the latest 
SVN (except that that was what I was doing for GPE).  I think I dropped tls 
because I didn't need it for my original purpose and it made life simpler.

Shall we just switch to building the debian package (libsoup2.2-8 in lenny?). 
Does anyone know if there are any changes required to do this?

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Re: Fwd: Compiling latest kernel (from kernel.org, linux-omap git version) in n800

2007-04-26 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Andreas Orfanos wrote:

It is against Open Source Software ethics to keep kernel modules
proprietary.


True


Definitely there is a GPL violation here.


False


Nokia's tables
exist today because people kept those GPL moral obligations.  


True but the opposite may be also true i.e. there would be no Nokia
tablet if they could not use proprietary parts.

Let's hope things will improve in future and we will have more
completely open devices from other manufacturers. Or even from Nokia :-)

Frantisek


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Re: Continuous reboot problem with the N770 hacker edition

2007-04-26 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Rainer Dorsch wrote:

Hi Markku,

I have no idea how I can replace the binary when the N770 is rebooting itself 
before the desktop is up :-( Is that possible?


http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowTo_EASILY_Boot_From_MMC_card

If you haven't this installed then it is almost impossible to recover
now but you may consider it for future. With this installed you may boot
working system and mount and fix the broken one.

Also if you really have some important data there you may prepare
bootable mmc card on desktop PC with linux but it is harder. You need to
format card as ext2 and extract rootfs.jffs2 from firmware image  to it
(try Google for instructions how to mount jffs2 image) and set root
device via flasher.



Are there 
any plans to update the N770 hacker edition image in near future to fix bugs 
like this?


If your reboot loop is caused by rss applet then upgrading could help
but reboot loop in general has more causes and is not specific to
IT2007. It may happen sooner or later on any Nokia tablet with any IT
200x system so far. If you have bad luck even first device crash and
watchdog reboot can cause infinite reboot loop if the device was in the
middle of some 'sensitive' write.

If yes, I would probably wait for a few days and test the updated 
image (and would be happy to pick up the other improvements;-)


I have already asked here in the list two or three times about future of
hacker edition but got no reply.

It is possible to update some packages from Bora 3.1 repository and it
should be also possible to recreate deb files on n800 with upgraded
firmware and upgrade them on N770 hacker edition via dpkg (except those
which are modified for hacker edition and there are no sources).

I'm planning to do it when I hit some bug on n770 which is not on my N800.

Frantisek

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Boot screens and launch app at startup

2007-04-26 Thread Erin Stadler
Ian,
I read through your tutorial and was hoping or anyone could answer a
few questions beyond what you have done already. First, I have been unable
to replace the first of the 3 boot up screens. Have you had success
replacing it? How? And, do you know of a way to launch an application at
startup? I would like the unit to launch the image viewer at startup.
Ideally, full screen. Thanks for any help you can give. Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:53 AM
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Continuous reboot problem with the N770 hacker edition

Hi,
Not sure but maybe this will help you.
At the moment I am working my way through a 'branding' tutorial for my 770:
http://blog.2blocksaway.com/files/maemo-1.pdf

it seems using this you can replace totally the desktop/bookmarks/boot-up
splash screens and so on
using a custom .deb. You can also install the apps you want after your new
desktop is installed in
a postinstall shell script which calls dpkg -i on the app you want
[]'s
Ian
 Hi Markku,


 I have no idea how I can replace the binary when the N770 is rebooting
itself
 before the desktop is up :-( Is that possible?

 If not, that translates for me, that I have to reinstall the N770. Are
there
 any plans to update the N770 hacker edition image in near future to fix
bugs like this? If yes, I
 would probably wait for a few days and test the updated image (and would
be happy to pick up the
 other improvements;-)

 Thanks,
 Rainer



 Am Mittwoch, 25. April 2007 09:31 schrieben Sie:

 Hi,


 Hacker edition is based on same software than the _original_ N800
 release. The first update for N800 is likely to contain many updated
packages.

 RSS applet was not modified for hacker edition, so if it's causing
 problems, you might be able to replace the old binary by new one just by
copying the new version
 to your 770.

 -Markku-


 Rainer Dorsch wrote:

 Am Montag, 23. April 2007 10:16 schrieb Eero Tamminen:


 ...clip...


 This sounds like Desktop crashing.  If you have RSS applet enabled
 in Desktop *and* the Hacker edition is based on a version earlier than
the latest N800
 release, it could be a the crasher bug in RSS applet that was fixed to
the latest release
 (once it got a feed item with
 a strange URL, the applet always crashed (Desktop) immediately after
 applet had been loaded by the Desktop).


 - Eero


 PS. In gnome Desktop the crasher bugs in panel applets are not so fatal
 because they are run as separate processes.  You notice this easily
from the Gnome desktop
 memory usage...

 Eero,


 thanks for the quick reply.

 SU-18_2007HACKER_2.2006.47-17_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin


 was installed on the device. Not sure, if that was based on the latest
release. I am not sure,
 if I disabled RSS, at least I did not customize it.

 Can I boot the device from an external image on the MMC card or provided
 by flasher to find out what the root cause of the problem is/was?

 Thanks for the explanation, why you hae a single process, causing the
 complete desktop to die when an applet has a problem.

 --
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 D-72135 Dettenhausen
 07032-359190
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Re: Continuous reboot problem with the N770 hacker edition

2007-04-26 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:
 It may happen sooner or later on any Nokia tablet with any IT
 200x system so far. If you have bad luck even first device crash and
 watchdog reboot can cause infinite reboot loop if the device was in the
 middle of some 'sensitive' write.

That shouldn't happen.  JFFS2 keeps the internal filesystem in
consistent state although the filesystem hadn't be properly
unmounted (unlike the VFAT on MMC cards).  Some individual files
could get only partially written, but all applications should
be doing such writes safely (write to temp file and rename once
writing is finished).


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Re: Continuous reboot problem with the N770 hacker edition

2007-04-26 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Eero Tamminen wrote:

That shouldn't happen. 


Happened to me with N770 and IT2006. Just one solid hangup while web 
browsing, watchdog reboot and I had infinite reboot loop.


Also I have lost some gconf preferences more times when device rebooted 
randomly. Missing preference may cause crash for some system application 
that expects some setting to be always present.



JFFS2 keeps the internal filesystem in
consistent state although the filesystem hadn't be properly
unmounted (unlike the VFAT on MMC cards). 


Yes that is not a problem.


Some individual files
could get only partially written, but all applications should
be doing such writes safely (write to temp file and rename once
writing is finished).


This is the problem. It is not common at all to write to files in such 
way. In case you want to apppend some data to existing file it is not 
optimal to create new temporary file, copy all data and add few bytes. 
You seriously can't expect people writing code in such way.


I still think this watchdog thing is another legacy we have from Nokia 
as a phone company. It makes perfect sense for dumb phone. It makes less 
  sense for computer. Yes when device locks up you need a way to reset 
it. That is why you have reset button on computer and also reset hole on 
every PDA. I know it is internet tablet not computer or PDA but also 
Nokia should know that *this is not a phone* ;-)


With reset hole one can reset device when (s)he wants. Watchdog may not 
make things worse when device locks up solid (i.e. kernel bug or 
feature) but rebooting device when some process dies of when things take 
too long can make more damage than benefit. I know this is hard to 
detect so my solution is to provide reset hole and do not try to guess. 
User probably can notice this situation and act accordingly.


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Re: Continuous reboot problem with the N770 hacker edition

2007-04-26 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:
 That shouldn't happen. 
 
 Happened to me with N770 and IT2006. Just one solid hangup while web
 browsing, watchdog reboot and I had infinite reboot loop.

Well, I was talking more about the latest N800 release than something
for N770.


 Also I have lost some gconf preferences more times when device rebooted
 randomly. Missing preference may cause crash for some system application
 that expects some setting to be always present.

Things should have reasonable defaults (and actually test that
they work without them).


 JFFS2 keeps the internal filesystem in
 consistent state although the filesystem hadn't be properly
 unmounted (unlike the VFAT on MMC cards). 
 
 Yes that is not a problem.
 
 Some individual files
 could get only partially written, but all applications should
 be doing such writes safely (write to temp file and rename once
 writing is finished).
 
 This is the problem. It is not common at all to write to files in such
 way. In case you want to apppend some data to existing file it is not
 optimal to create new temporary file, copy all data and add few bytes.
 You seriously can't expect people writing code in such way.

For logs etc. you can of course append, I meant files which application
loads when it starts and where it matters what their contents are.


 I still think this watchdog thing is another legacy we have from Nokia
 as a phone company. It makes perfect sense for dumb phone. It makes less
   sense for computer. Yes when device locks up you need a way to reset
 it. That is why you have reset button on computer and also reset hole on
 every PDA. I know it is internet tablet not computer or PDA but also
 Nokia should know that *this is not a phone* ;-)
 
 With reset hole one can reset device when (s)he wants. Watchdog may not
 make things worse when device locks up solid (i.e. kernel bug or
 feature) but rebooting device when some process dies of when things take
 too long can make more damage than benefit. I know this is hard to
 detect so my solution is to provide reset hole and do not try to guess.
 User probably can notice this situation and act accordingly.

This is improved a bit in latest release.  Most things are restartable
and device is rebooted only if restarting them fails too many times in
a row (Desktop, window manager etc).

However, without X server or D-BUS you cannot use the device at all
and all your UI processes exit automatically, so it doesn't make sense
to try to keep the device up if those exit/crash.


- Eero

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Re: Fwd: Compiling latest kernel (from kernel.org, linux-omap git version) in n800

2007-04-26 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Andreas Orfanos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It is against Open Source Software ethics to keep kernel modules
 proprietary. Definitely there is a GPL violation here. Nokia's tables
 exist today because people kept those GPL moral obligations.

 Release functional source code of umac.ko please.

Creating a device like Internet Tablet is not just writing software,
it's a lot more. For example, one has to consider hardware design,
costs, manufacturing, schedules and other issues. And when all these
aspects are combined, the solution isn't always optimal. Just like the
case is right now, as you have pointed out.

I do understand the frustration of not having umac.ko sources
available. I personally believe that having an open driver would
improve the quality and make my job a lot easier. But that's just not
possible currently and this is something we have to live with.

Disclaimer: These are my own opinions and not of Nokia.

-- 
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Boot Screen and Start App at Boot up

2007-04-26 Thread J B

Ian,
   I read through your tutorial and was hoping or anyone could answer a few
questions beyond what you have done already. First, I have been unable to
replace the first of the 3 boot up screens. Have you had success replacing
it? How? And, do you know of a way to launch an application at startup? I
would like the unit to launch the image viewer at startup. Ideally, full
screen. Thanks for any help you can give. Thanks.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:53 AM
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Continuous reboot problem with the N770 hacker edition

Hi,
Not sure but maybe this will help you.
At the moment I am working my way through a 'branding' tutorial for my 770:
http://blog.2blocksaway.com/files/maemo-1.pdf

it seems using this you can replace totally the desktop/bookmarks/boot-up
splash screens and so on using a custom .deb. You can also install the apps
you want after your new desktop is installed in a postinstall shell script
which calls dpkg -i on the app you want []'s Ian
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Re: Quiver Image Viewer for 770 / N800

2007-04-26 Thread william maddler
Very, very nice app. I don't like having it automatically set as default
image viewer anyway. Beside that, good job! :)

Mike Morrison wrote:
 Hello:
 
 I have been porting my image viewer (quiver) to the maemo platform and
 I now think it is in a reasonable enough state for others to try.
 
 I've created builds for bora and gregale which you can get from one of
 the following locations:
 
 http://downloads.maemo.org/product/quiver/
 http://mike.yi.org/projects/quiver/wiki/QuiverForMaemo
 
 If you try it out, let me know what you think of it.
 
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Re: Continuous reboot problem with the N770 hacker edition

2007-04-26 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 06:56:40PM +0300, ext Eero Tamminen wrote:
 Hi,
 
  I still think this watchdog thing is another legacy we have from Nokia
  as a phone company. It makes perfect sense for dumb phone. It makes less
sense for computer. Yes when device locks up you need a way to reset
  it. That is why you have reset button on computer and also reset hole on
  every PDA. I know it is internet tablet not computer or PDA but also
  Nokia should know that *this is not a phone* ;-)

Anything with a radio (of which has the N800 has two) gets a watchdog.
Honestly, I don't think this is particularly insane.

  With reset hole one can reset device when (s)he wants. Watchdog may not
  make things worse when device locks up solid (i.e. kernel bug or
  feature) but rebooting device when some process dies of when things take
  too long can make more damage than benefit. I know this is hard to
  detect so my solution is to provide reset hole and do not try to guess.
  User probably can notice this situation and act accordingly.
 
 This is improved a bit in latest release.  Most things are restartable
 and device is rebooted only if restarting them fails too many times in
 a row (Desktop, window manager etc).
 
 However, without X server or D-BUS you cannot use the device at all
 and all your UI processes exit automatically, so it doesn't make sense
 to try to keep the device up if those exit/crash.

The sensible solution is to pull the desktop down and restart it along
with the X server, instead of panicking and rebooting the device.
Unfortunately, our init system (osso-af-init) is so horribly designed
that it's almost impossible to do[0] without just blowing away our init
system and starting again _from scratch_.  Which is arguably what we
should do, anyway.

Cheers,
Daniel

[0]: I had an ndm for exactly this internally, but due to the init
 scripts being so incredibly broken both by horrible design and
 awful implementation, the init scripts always returned failure,
 even if they succeeded.  Go figure.


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Re: Boot Screen and Start App at Boot up

2007-04-26 Thread Ian
Ola,

 I read through your tutorial
It is not my tutorial...i think it was written by [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...thank 
him ;)

 First, I have been unable to replace the first of the 3 boot up screens. Have 
 you had success
 replacing it?
No, I have just changed the default gtk theme so far. The big Nokia logo you 
see on startup comes
from the file 
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/hildon/qgn_indi_startup_nokia_logo.png and the
Nokia hands live at 
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/hildon/qgn_indi_nokia_hands.png ...maybe
replace them using your install.sh script (size 770x470 and you should chmod on 
them as well in
the script to 666). This may not work however as these filenames also appear in
/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/schemas/system/systemui/splash/%gconf.xml
(/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/system/systemui/splash/%gconf.xml makes 
reference to values in this
file)...and maybe these values override the hardwired ones

 And, do you know of a way to launch an application at startup? I would like 
 the unit to
 launch the image viewer at startup. Ideally, full screen.
I think maemo-launcher listens to system dbus to launch a program and as the 
install.sh script sym
links to the init script /etc/rc2.d/ for maemo-launcher maybe look into hacking 
this
HTH
[]'s
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Re: Fwd: Compiling latest kernel (from kernel.org, linux-omap git version) in n800

2007-04-26 Thread Leandro Melo de Sales

So, finally. Is the unique solution to wait nokia until they release
the umac.ko source and live with n800 + latest linux-omap kernel
version without WLAN support?

  Kallo, can you please explain us what is the main problem that
nokia doesn't release the umac.ko source code?

Leandro.

2007/4/26, Dave Neuer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On 4/26/07, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Andreas Orfanos wrote:
  Definitely there is a GPL violation here.

 False

Correct, it is false that there is definitely a GPL violation there.

There is quite likely a GPL violation there, since it's quite likely a
module is a derived work of the kernel.

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Re: soup2.2 and soup2.2-8 don't make a good broth (gpe build problem)

2007-04-26 Thread koos vriezen

Hi,

2007/4/25, Santtu Lakkala [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

marc zonzon wrote:
 did somebody solved this problem?

I guess the only solution is to rebuild the packages using libsoup2.2
against libsoup2.2-8 (or vice versa). Or to remove and not use any
packages using one or the other.


QD:
$ dpkg-deb -x libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel.deb
libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel
$ dpkg-deb -e libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel.deb
libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel/DEBIAN
$ vi libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel/DEBIAN/control
$ mv libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel.deb libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel.old
$ dpkg-deb -b libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel

and hope it will work

Cheers,
Koos
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Re: soup2.2 and soup2.2-8 don't make a good broth (gpe build problem)

2007-04-26 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 22:51:30 +0200, ext koos vriezen wrote:
 2007/4/25, Santtu Lakkala [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 marc zonzon wrote:
   did somebody solved this problem?
 
  I guess the only solution is to rebuild the packages using libsoup2.2
  against libsoup2.2-8 (or vice versa). Or to remove and not use any
  packages using one or the other.
 
 QD:
 $ dpkg-deb -x libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel.deb
 libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel
 $ dpkg-deb -e libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel.deb
 libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel/DEBIAN
 $ vi libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel/DEBIAN/control
 $ mv libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel.deb libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel.old
 $ dpkg-deb -b libsoup2.2-8_2.2.100-1mh3_armel
 
 and hope it will work

Err, for something that you have the sources, you are proposing to
edit the binary packages? ...

regards,
guillem
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Re: Boot Screen and Start App at Boot up

2007-04-26 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 13:35:24 -0700, ext Ian wrote:
  And, do you know of a way to launch an application at startup? I would
  like the unit to launch the image viewer at startup. Ideally, full
  screen.

 I think maemo-launcher listens to system dbus to launch a program and
 as the install.sh script sym links to the init script /etc/rc2.d/ for
 maemo-launcher maybe look into hacking this

maemo-launcher does not listen to dbus, it just starts programs
through maemo-invoker (or maemo-summoner). But dbus can start services
by itself if asked for.

regards,
guillem
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Re: Scratchbox apt-get update

2007-04-26 Thread Leandro Melo de Sales

Hi,

I tried to change debian devkit settings, but I still not working...
:( Any new suggestion? The error still the same: dns resolve the
repository.maemo.org but apt-get doesn't download the updates:

Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Packages
 404 Not Found [IP: 200.216.69.249 80]
Ign http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Release
Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/non-free Packages
 404 Not Found [IP: 200.216.69.249 80]
Ign http://repository.maemo.org bora/non-free Release
Hit http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Sources
Hit http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Release
Failed to fetch
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/bora/free/binary-arm/Packages.gz
404 Not Found [IP: 200.216.69.249 80]
Failed to fetch
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/bora/non-free/binary-arm/Packages.gz
404 Not Found [IP: 200.216.69.249 80]
Reading Package Lists... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://repository.maemo.org
bora/free Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_dists_bora_free_binary-arm_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://repository.maemo.org
bora/non-free Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/repository.maemo.org_dists_bora_non-free_binary-arm_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)

2007/4/24, Kalle Vahlman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

2007/4/24, Leandro Melo de Sales [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It seems that there is a error in the maemo armel repository since my
 scratchbox installation can resolve repository.maemo.org, but can't
 find Packages.gz due to the wrong URL **binary-arm** instand of
 **binary-armel**. Please, let me know if I am wrong!

Ah, no. That's not the repository being wrong, it's your target that
is broken (most likely). Apt gets the architechture from dpkg, and
apparently it's reporting arm although it should be armel. You can
check this with dpkg-architecture.

So, it's a debian devkit problem, but as I don't know much about that,
I'm not sure about the cause...

--
Kalle Vahlman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: 419 scams using my Maemo Bugzilla email address

2007-04-26 Thread Neil MacLeod

Quim Gil wrote:

Hi, did you get more scams of these?

Apparently that was a dark weekend in terms of spam, everybody got lots
from many places.

In the meantime we have also improved a couple of details that might
have let spambots to sniff some email addresses. If you still find holes
please submit them as bugs.


Hi Quim

I continued to receive further spam on my Maemo Bugzilla for a few days after 
my original post on this topic, but they have since stopped - yay!

Thanks for tightening up Maemo bugzilla, if I receive any further spam I'll 
open a bug but of course my email address is probably on a 419 list of email 
addresses so any future 419 spam I receive may be due to the original 
harvesting and not due to any new Bugzilla exploits. Lets hope they didn't get 
too many addresses first time around! :)

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Re: Fwd: Compiling latest kernel (from kernel.org, linux-omap git version) in n800

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew J. Barr
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Kalle Valo wrote:
   Kallo, can you please explain us what is the main problem that
 nokia doesn't release the umac.ko source code?
 
 Sorry, I can't answer.

Obviously I don't know but I think it's highly likely that it's not
Nokia's to release--the Conexant people (who have never really been nice
to open source developers--their devkit for the ivtv MPEG cards common
in MythTV setups is $10,000) clammed up on the Prism54 developers
several years ago when their SoftMAC chips starting turning up in the
wild. There has been work on reverse engineering these, called islsm,
and someone had some code working a little bit on a 770, but nothing
concrete at the moment.
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