[Mailman-Users] Mailman Blocking Squirrelmail: Bad headers?

[Karl R. Balsmeier]

I'm using Mailman 2.1.2 on obsd.

I've seen a few threads that match my current situation:

I am unable to get mails from squirrelmail-based https sessions to get to
the lists I have curently working properly for all other methods of
posting/replying.  Joining works, but posting does not.

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2002-June/020336.html

Anyone else out there seen the same problem and rendered a fix?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.0.11 problems

[Jim Tittsler]

On Jun 2, 2004, at 01:47, Joachim Schwendtner wrote:
2004-06-01 18:23:02 1BVALM-Bq-00 Neither the system_aliases 
director nor the
address_pipe transport set a uid for local delivery of
|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post mailman

I installed mailman 2.0.11 with apt-get on a debian-woody / with exim. 
I did the configuration changes in exim.conf like it is described in
http://www.exim.org/howto/mailman.html
If you use the technique described on that page (or the README.EXIM 
file), you don't need to add the aliases for each list to Exim's system 
alias file.  The lists are discovered based on the existence of the 
list configuration files, and *those* directors use pipe routers that 
correctly specify the user and group for the delivery.  The error 
message suggests you added mailing list aliases to your system alias 
file.  Try removing them.

If for some reason you want to use manually maintained alias lists, 
create a director similar to the Exim system_alias director 
(referencing a different alias file), and set the correct user/group on 
it.  (But the automatic list discovery method is less error prone and 
has a negligible performance impact.)

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Problems with news2email gateway after upgradingfrom 2.1.2 to 2.1.5

[Eric McDonald]

OKAY--

So thanks for pointing me at the FAQ.  I looked at the crontab.in file in 
/cron and I find the following entry in there:

0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S 
/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news

Funny thing is, it started working all by itself.  No more errors?  Just how I like it.

Thanks!

Eric



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Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 8:14 PM -0400 2004/06/01, Todd wrote:
>>
>> The qrunners aren't called via cron anymore, but there are still other
>> functions that Mailman 2.1+ uses cron for.  From the INSTALL file for
>> 2.1.5:
>
>   Sorry, I completely spaced out.  I don't know what I was smoking 
> at the time I said that

Hehe, I won't ask -- I'll just drool jealously.

>   Beats the hell out of me why I didn't remember that

Perhaps 'cause you're busy answering tons of questions here and being
an all around helpful fellow?  :)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with news2email gateway after upgrading from 2.1.2 to 2.1.5

[Todd]

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Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 8:14 PM -0400 2004/06/01, Todd wrote:
>>
>> The qrunners aren't called via cron anymore, but there are still other
>> functions that Mailman 2.1+ uses cron for.  From the INSTALL file for
>> 2.1.5:
>
>   Sorry, I completely spaced out.  I don't know what I was smoking 
> at the time I said that

Hehe, I won't ask -- I'll just drool jealously.

>   Beats the hell out of me why I didn't remember that

Perhaps 'cause you're busy answering tons of questions here and being
an all around helpful fellow?  :)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with news2email gateway after upgrading from 2.1.2 to 2.1.5

[Brad Knowles]

At 8:14 PM -0400 2004/06/01, Todd wrote:
 The qrunners aren't called via cron anymore, but there are still other
 functions that Mailman 2.1+ uses cron for.  From the INSTALL file for
 2.1.5:
	Sorry, I completely spaced out.  I don't know what I was smoking 
at the time I said that -- I remember full well needing to set up the 
news gateway cron jobs when we set up our first gateway.

Beats the hell out of me why I didn't remember that
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with news2email gateway after upgrading from 2.1.2 to 2.1.5

[Todd]

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Brad Knowles wrote:
> Mailman 2.1.x doesn't use cron anymore.  The fact that "cron"
> appears in this URL would seem to be an indicator that you are
> upgrading from version 2.0.x to 2.1.5, not 2.1.2 to 2.1.5.  Is that
> correct?

The qrunners aren't called via cron anymore, but there are still other
functions that Mailman 2.1+ uses cron for.  From the INSTALL file for
2.1.5:

- Set up the crontab entries.  Mailman runs a number of cron jobs
  for its basic functionality.  Note that if you're upgrading from
  a previous version of Mailman, you'll want to install the new
  crontab, but be careful if you're running multiple Mailman
  installations on your site!  Changing the crontab could mess
  with other parallel Mailman installations.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Problems with news2email gateway after upgrading from 2.1.2 to 2.1.5

[Eric McDonald]

Hi:

Thanks for getting back to me.  Python 2.3 on Solaris 2.6  It was working fine with 
version 2.1.2?  Which I just upgraded from?

Yes, I do have an entry in my crontab file for this:

# crontab -l mailman
# At 8AM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests.
# They are less likely to ignore these reminders if they're mailed
# early in the morning, but of course, this is local time... ;)
0 8 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/checkdbs
#
# At 9AM, send notifications to disabled members that are due to be
# reminded to re-enable their accounts.
0 9 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/disabled
#
# Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold delivery.
0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests
#
# 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
#
# Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail.  You can comment this one out
# if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right now,
# or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling.
0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S 
/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news
#
# At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file.  Only
# turn this on if the internal archiver is used and
# GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py
27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
# Remove any camp held message more than three days old
0 0 * * * /usr/local/mailman/bin/removecampheld.sh
0 1 * * * /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s stop
1 1 * * * /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start

_None_ of these entries are needed anymore?  Including sending out passwords and 
digests?

Thanks,

Eric

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At 1:38 PM -1000 2004/06/01, Eric McDonald wrote:

>  Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744): Traceback (most recent call last):
>  Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):   File 
>"/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 284, in ?

Mailman 2.1.x doesn't use cron anymore.  The fact that "cron" 
appears in this URL would seem to be an indicator that you are 
upgrading from version 2.0.x to 2.1.5, not 2.1.2 to 2.1.5.  Is that 
correct?

>  Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744): AttributeError :  'module' 
>object has no attribute 'nntpsplit'
>  Jun 01 16:33:04 2004 (6937) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object 
>has no attribute 'get_sender'
>  Jun 01 16:33:05 2004 (6937) Traceback (most recent call last):
>File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop
>  self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
>File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 159, in _onefile
>  sender = msg.get_sender()
>  AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

You don't tell us anything about the OS you're using, what 
version of Python  you have, etc  However, I would ask if you've 
seen the FAQ entry at 
?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with news2email gateway after upgrading from 2.1.2 to 2.1.5

[Brad Knowles]

At 1:38 PM -1000 2004/06/01, Eric McDonald wrote:
 Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744): Traceback (most recent call last):
 Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):   File 
"/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 284, in ?
	Mailman 2.1.x doesn't use cron anymore.  The fact that "cron" 
appears in this URL would seem to be an indicator that you are 
upgrading from version 2.0.x to 2.1.5, not 2.1.2 to 2.1.5.  Is that 
correct?

 Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744): AttributeError :  'module' 
object has no attribute 'nntpsplit'
 Jun 01 16:33:04 2004 (6937) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object 
has no attribute 'get_sender'
 Jun 01 16:33:05 2004 (6937) Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop
 self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 159, in _onefile
 sender = msg.get_sender()
 AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'
	You don't tell us anything about the OS you're using, what 
version of Python  you have, etc  However, I would ask if you've 
seen the FAQ entry at 
?

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[Mailman-Users] Problems with news2email gateway after upgrading from 2.1.2 to 2.1.5

[Eric McDonald]

Hi Guys:

I'm getting the following errors in my log after upgrading to mailman 2.1.5 from 2.1.2

I need this news to email gateway functionality as we are the de facto proxy for users 
on the soc.org.nonprofit list.

Please advise ASAP on how I can get the list server linked back up to my news server.

Thanks,

Eric

Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744): Traceback (most recent call last):
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):   File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", 
line 284, in ?
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):  main()
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):   File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", 
line 264, in main
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):  process_lists(lock)
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):   File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", 
line 208, in process_lists
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):  conn, first, last = open_newsgroup(mlist)
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):   File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news", 
line 94, in open_newsgroup
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744):  nntp_host, nntp_port = 
Utils.nntpsplit(mlist.nntp_host)
Jun 01 14:50:12 2004 gate_news(27744): AttributeError :  'module' object has no 
attribute 'nntpsplit' 
Jun 01 16:33:04 2004 (6937) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no attribute 
'get_sender'
Jun 01 16:33:05 2004 (6937) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 159, in _onefile
sender = msg.get_sender()
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Removing "on behalf of"

[Brad Knowles]

At 3:50 PM -0700 2004/06/01, John S. Strock wrote:
 As I mentioned in my last post, nothing on my client computer has changed.
 The only thing that has changed is my hosting service.  And my hosted server
 is on a linux box, both at the new and old host.
 This is why I'm thinking it's something in the MTA...any ideas?
	Looking at an older message from you (Message-ID: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, dated Mon, 12 Apr 2004 
17:57:00 -0700), I see the following headers which might be of 
interest:

X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
	Looking at the message I am replying to (Message-ID: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, dated Tue, 1 Jun 2004 
15:50:28 -0700), I see:

X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
	While your version of Outlook doesn't appear to have changed in 
the time between these two messages, the MimeOLE version does appear 
to have changed.  I'm just guessing, but perhaps this might be the 
cause of the problems?

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Removing "on behalf of"

[Brad Knowles]

At 3:50 PM -0700 2004/06/01, John S. Strock wrote:
 As I mentioned in my last post, nothing on my client computer has changed.
 The only thing that has changed is my hosting service.  And my hosted server
 is on a linux box, both at the new and old host.
 This is why I'm thinking it's something in the MTA...any ideas?
	This sort of thing can only be added by a mail server or mail 
client somewhere along the way.  If your client hasn't changed, 
that's unlikely to be the source of the problem.  If your MTA is not 
on the hosted server, then that would be the likely place for a 
change like this -- talk to your mail provider and see what changes 
they may have made recently.

	If your MTA is on the hosted server, then since the hosted server 
has recently changed, that's the obvious difference.

	Anyway you slice it, this is not a header that any version of 
Mailman has ever created, so the source of the problem has to be 
somewhere else.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Dealing with AOL rejects

[Brad Knowles]

At 6:41 PM -0400 2004/06/01, Speedy Gonzalis wrote:
 As you probably know, AOL (in it's infinite wisdom) has given it's users
 the ability to black list anyone they want.
Yup.
  Unfortunately, when they do
 and a black listed individual posts to a list that is set for replies to
 go to the list, the resulting bounce (example below) is unrecognized by
 Mailman.
	Sadly, this is true.  AOL wrote their own custom MTA (against my 
vehement objections), and they generate their own bounces in their 
own format.  There's not much we can do about that except deal with 
it.

 What I'm hoping for is that someone has written, or I can (with
 assistance) write something that will recognize these rejects and track
 them against the offending AOL member just as any other hard bounce.
	I don't think that's going to be very likely.  The problem is the 
lack of information provided in the bounce.  You can tell that you've 
got a bounce, but that's about it.  If you go to full personalization 
with VERP, you've got a better shot of figuring out which user 
actually resulted in the bounce and then unsubscribing them (or 
whatever), but that's about the best you can hope for.

	That is, unless you can show us additional information that you 
usually see in your bounces that could be put to use?

	If you need further help, Carl Hutzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is the 
guy to talk to.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] TypeError via config_list

[Paul Makepeace]

With a suggestion from Jim Tittsler I extracted the list members with
list_members and then rmlist / newlist to blow away and re-create the
list from scratch. Brutal, but effective.

Jim's fallback suggestion was,

> If so, you can always use withlist to open the list and save the
> m.members dictionary.

which wasn't necessary thankfully; the list_members worked.


Paul


Je 2004-05-23 23:00:04 +0100, Paul Makepeace skribis:
> Hi,
> 
> Attempting to edit a list I haven't looked at in a while generated
> errors on the /mailman/admin form. I then tried to peel open the
> config but config_list failed:
> 
>   # config_list -o /tmp/events events
>   Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/sbin/config_list", line 348, in ?
>   main()
> File "/usr/sbin/config_list", line 341, in main
>   do_output(listname, outfile)
> File "/usr/sbin/config_list", line 117, in do_output
>   do_list_categories(mlist, k, None, outfp)
> File "/usr/sbin/config_list", line 127, in do_list_categories
>   info = mlist.GetConfigInfo(k, subcat)
> File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 428, in GetConfigInfo
>   value = gui.GetConfigInfo(self, category, subcat)
> File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Gui/General.py", line 53, in GetConfigInfo
>   optvals = [mlist.new_member_options & bitfields[o] for o in OPTIONS]
>   TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for &: 'list' and 'int'
>   #
> 
> I've seen this on Google but nothing with a result.
> 
> This is mailman 2.1.4-4 Debian/testing. The list was created Oct/03.
> What can I do to recover the list? Even just pulling out a list of
> members would be enough.
> 
> Thanks, Paul
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] detecting certain file types in attachments

[Brad Knowles]

At 6:09 PM -0400 2004/06/01, Andy Rowan wrote:
 So what I want to be able to do is filter based on the
 content-disposition field.  This is trivially easy to do in procmail,
 but in the normal mailman sequence, messages never see procmail.  So,
 can I (a) recreate this capability in mailman, or (b) cause mailman to
 invoke procmail somehow?  The content filtering option on the web
 interface seems to look at content-type, not content-disposition.
	See 
 
for one option.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Removing "on behalf of"

[John S. Strock]

As I mentioned in my last post, nothing on my client computer has changed.
The only thing that has changed is my hosting service.  And my hosted server
is on a linux box, both at the new and old host.

This is why I'm thinking it's something in the MTA...any ideas?

John

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At 10:32 AM -0700 2004/06/01, John S. Strock wrote:

>  I'm using the same client that I've always used.  I've just moved hosting
>  providers.  The old hosting company had Mailman version 2.1.5 and the new
>  company has v2.1.1.  Is it a version thing?  Or just a configuration
thing?
>  If it's not in Mailman, could it be the MTA?  Any ideas?

This is something that is either done by the mail client (MUA), 
or by a mail server (MTA) somewhere in transit.  Since Mailman 
doesn't put this header on the message itself, I have to assume that 
you are the victim of some typically badly misconfigured Microsoft 
software somewhere along the line -- probably the fault of your 
hosting company.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How can I update 2.1.3 --> 2.1.5?

[Brad Knowles]

At 6:45 PM +0100 2004/06/01, Ian A B Eiloart wrote:
 Ah, I see, so I upgrade by reinstalling. But that isn't clear from the
 documentation, because "as easy as" doesn't mean "is achieved by". So
 there's me thinking, "OK, so its easy, but how do I do it?".
	Fair enough.  We'll have to ask Barry to update the documentation 
to be more precise.

 1. The file says "BE SURE TO TURN OFF MAILMAN AS DESCRIBED ABOVE
BEFORE YOU UPGRADE." - but that isn't described above. The closest I
 could see was a recommendation to switch off my MTA. I want to avoid that
 if the process is going to take more than a minute, so I'm hoping I can
 just switch off mailmanctl, but I'm using EXIM, and I think it will
 continue to queue messages...with the wrong queue format?
	You can't really just turn off Mailman itself.  You have to turn 
off the MTA and the webserver.

 2. The file refers to
 .
 AFAICT that message is the wrong one. It doesn't relate to upgrading, and
 isn't from the person referenced, and its four years old.
Documentation bug.  Barry?
Was there anything else?
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[Mailman-Users] Dealing with AOL rejects

[Speedy Gonzalis]

I am the site admin for a server running Mailman v 2.1.5 on a Linux 
box.  We have about 600 lists running and site wide out of the over 40,000 
subscribers we have several thousand AOL subscribers.

As you probably know, AOL (in it's infinite wisdom) has given it's users 
the ability to black list anyone they want.  Unfortunately, when they do 
and a black listed individual posts to a list that is set for replies to go 
to the list, the resulting bounce (example below) is unrecognized by 
Mailman.

What I'm hoping for is that someone has written, or I can (with assistance) 
write something that will recognize these rejects and track them against 
the offending AOL member just as any other hard bounce.

Any help would be appreciated.
Tim
Note that in the example below, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the blacklisted 
individual and [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the person rejecting the message.

-- Uncaught Bounce Example --
Your mail to the following recipients could not be delivered because they 
are not accepting mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
ke1yxx

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Startup issues after upgrade (2.1.4 - 2.1.5)

[Brad Knowles]

At 12:23 PM -0500 2004/06/01, Chip Cuccio wrote:
 gid = grp.getgrnam(mm_cfg.MAILMAN_GROUP)[2]
 KeyError: 'getgrnam(): name not found'
 Anyone have any tips to help my troubleshooting effort?
 I am running MM on a Red Hat Linux 7.3 server with Python 2.3.3.
 MM was compiled against Python 2.3.3.
Redhat is b0rken.
	If you had searched the archives of the mailing list, you would 
have quickly found 
.

	If you had searched the Redhat buglists, you would have quickly 
found 
 and 
, 
both of which reference 
.

	You can either apply the updated RPMs (which appear to be based 
on version 2.1.1), or you can install Mailman from the source code, 
according to the instructions provided.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Removing "on behalf of"

[Brad Knowles]

At 10:32 AM -0700 2004/06/01, John S. Strock wrote:
 I'm using the same client that I've always used.  I've just moved hosting
 providers.  The old hosting company had Mailman version 2.1.5 and the new
 company has v2.1.1.  Is it a version thing?  Or just a configuration thing?
 If it's not in Mailman, could it be the MTA?  Any ideas?
	This is something that is either done by the mail client (MUA), 
or by a mail server (MTA) somewhere in transit.  Since Mailman 
doesn't put this header on the message itself, I have to assume that 
you are the victim of some typically badly misconfigured Microsoft 
software somewhere along the line -- probably the fault of your 
hosting company.

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[Mailman-Users] detecting certain file types in attachments

[Andy Rowan]

Hi group,
I am running mailman 2.1.2 and sendmail.  I've got amavisd plugged in as a 
milter in sendmail, so everything passing through the server is scanned for 
viruses.  My concern is that with the proliferation of variants that often 
hit us pretty hard in the few days it can take for the antivirus software 
to get updated, I want to block certain types of files from coming through 
as attachments.  But I want to allow other types.  For the ordinary mail 
being delivered to our users, we do that with a set of procmail rules.  I'd 
like to be able to do the same kind of filtering on mailman messages.

I am operating under the assumption that the content-type field isn't to be 
trusted, since the virus writer could make a bogus one of those.  My 
experiments indicate that one can fake that field to look like something 
benign, even putting a benign file name there, and if the 
content-disposition field has a different file name with a different 
extension, Eudora at least will favor the content-disposition field.  So if 
content-type says it's a pdf and has a filename ending in pdf, but 
content-disposition says the filename ends in .zip, Eudora will launch 
winzip.  I assume .exe  and .scr and so forth would work the same, but I 
haven't tested that explicitly.

So what I want to be able to do is filter based on the content-disposition 
field.  This is trivially easy to do in procmail, but in the normal mailman 
sequence, messages never see procmail.  So, can I (a) recreate this 
capability in mailman, or (b) cause mailman to invoke procmail 
somehow?  The content filtering option on the web interface seems to look 
at content-type, not content-disposition.

I'm hoping to find a way to do it one of those two ways rather than having 
to add a whole other package like mimedefang into the mix, just to keep 
things simpler.

The relevant parts of the procmail expressions look like this:
filename=".*\.(ad[ep]|ba[st]|chm|cmd|com|cpl|crt|dll|dot|eml|exe|hlp|hta|in[fs]|isp|jse?|lnk|md[aetwz]|ms[cipt]|ocx|ops|pcd|pif|prf|pot|reg|sc[frt]|sh[bs]|sys|vb[es]?|ws[cfh]|xl[abdmtv]|\{[-0-9a-f]+\}.*)"
filename=".*\.(ace|ar[cj]|bh|bz(ip)?2|cab|t?gz|lha|lzh|[jrt]ar|uue|xxe|zip|zoo|z)"
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How can I update 2.1.3 --> 2.1.5?

[Tokio Kikuchi]

Hi,
1. The file says "BE SURE TO TURN OFF MAILMAN AS DESCRIBED ABOVE
   BEFORE YOU UPGRADE." - but that isn't described above. The closest I 
could see was a recommendation to switch off my MTA. I want to avoid 
that if the process is going to take more than a minute, so I'm hoping I 
can just switch off mailmanctl, but I'm using EXIM, and I think it will 
continue to queue messages...with the wrong queue format?
SMTP is so designed that one MTA can stop for a day or more ;-)
the exim config calls "/local/mailman/mail/mailman post" with each 
message addressed to a mailman list. Do I need to stop this happening 
during the upgrade? If so, then I need to take down the mailer (or make 
it temporarily reject or hold onto the messages while I do the upgrade).
for 2.1.3 -> 2.1.5 upgrade, you can safely stop qrunners if you
don't like to stop MTA.
Actually, upgrading is much easier than first time installation
because you don't have to re-setup mailman account, web and
MTA interfaces. I sometime forget to stop MTA/Web without problem!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How can I update 2.1.3 --> 2.1.5?

[Ian A B Eiloart]

--On Tuesday, June 1, 2004 7:16 pm +0200 Brad Knowles 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

At 5:44 PM +0100 2004/06/01, Ian A B Eiloart wrote:
 Now, one message said to check the UPDATES file. I have, but as far as
 I can see, it doesn't actually say what to do to update. It does give
 some advice about shutting down the MTA and the web site, and some other
 tips about what to do *while* upgrading, but doesn't describe the basic
 procedure.
I'm confused.  The UPGRADING file says:
UPGRADING FROM PREVIOUS VERSIONS
 For the most part, upgrading Mailman is as easy as just installing
the latest version over the existing version.  However, there are some
changes that need to be taken care of manually.
  What you need to do depends on the version you are using and the
version you are upgrading to. In all cases, you should first turn off your
mail  and web access to your Mailman installation.  You're essentially
upgrading  a database, and it's usually a good idea to make sure the 
database
cannot be modified in the middle of the upgrade.

What about this is not clear?  You turn off the MTA and the web server,
and then you follow the instructions for installing the software.  That's
about it.
Ah, I see, so I upgrade by reinstalling. But that isn't clear from the 
documentation, because "as easy as" doesn't mean "is achieved by". So 
there's me thinking, "OK, so its easy, but how do I do it?".

There are also some other sources of confusion:
1. The file says "BE SURE TO TURN OFF MAILMAN AS DESCRIBED ABOVE
   BEFORE YOU UPGRADE." - but that isn't described above. The closest I 
could see was a recommendation to switch off my MTA. I want to avoid that 
if the process is going to take more than a minute, so I'm hoping I can 
just switch off mailmanctl, but I'm using EXIM, and I think it will 
continue to queue messages...with the wrong queue format?

the exim config calls "/local/mailman/mail/mailman post" with each message 
addressed to a mailman list. Do I need to stop this happening during the 
upgrade? If so, then I need to take down the mailer (or make it temporarily 
reject or hold onto the messages while I do the upgrade).

2. The file refers to 
. 
AFAICT that message is the wrong one. It doesn't relate to upgrading, and 
isn't from the person referenced, and its four years old.

3. Then, as you mention later, there is an incorrect reference to 
bin/upgrade

Hopefully, you will have kept all your changes in the mm_cfg.py file and
not in the Defaults.py file, so that they will be carried over after the
upgrade.
Yes, I have.
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Removing "on behalf of"

[John S. Strock]

I'm using the same client that I've always used.  I've just moved hosting
providers.  The old hosting company had Mailman version 2.1.5 and the new
company has v2.1.1.  Is it a version thing?  Or just a configuration thing?
If it's not in Mailman, could it be the MTA?  Any ideas?

Thanks,

John
 

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"John S. Strock" schrieb:

> How do I remove the "On behalf of" in the 'From' field?

There *is* no "on behalf of" in the Fom:-field. You just have to use a
client that does not show it that way.

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[Mailman-Users] Startup issues after upgrade (2.1.4 - 2.1.5)

[Chip Cuccio]

Hi.

I upgraded my installation of MM from 2.1.4 to 2.1.5. I followed
the instructions/tips mentioned in the 'UPGRADING' file.

After I had upgraded, and attempted to start MM, I receive the
following error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 547, in ?
main()
  File "/var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 340, in main
check_privs()
  File "/var/mailman/bin/mailmanctl", line 287, in check_privs
gid = grp.getgrnam(mm_cfg.MAILMAN_GROUP)[2]
KeyError: 'getgrnam(): name not found'

Anyone have any tips to help my troubleshooting effort?

I am running MM on a Red Hat Linux 7.3 server with Python 2.3.3.
MM was compiled against Python 2.3.3.

Thanks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How can I update 2.1.3 --> 2.1.5?

[Brad Knowles]

At 7:16 PM +0200 2004/06/01, Brad Knowles wrote:
What about this is not clear?  You turn off the MTA and the web server,
 and then you follow the instructions for installing the software.
 That's about it.
Further clarification -- a bit further down that same file, it says:
UPGRADING FROM 2.1.4 to 2.1.5
In Mailman 2.1.5, some significant changes have been made to the file
formats for qfiles and the pendings database.  All care has been taken to
make sure the upgrades happen automatically and smoothly, but you should
double check and, for the ultra-paranoid, make backups of your Mailman
site before you upgrade.  BE SURE TO TURN OFF MAILMAN AS DESCRIBED ABOVE
BEFORE YOU UPGRADE.
Specifically, in MM2.1.4 every message in the queues were represented by
two files, a .msg or .pck file containing the email message, and a .db
file containing metadata about the message.  In MM2.1.5 this has been made
more efficient by using only one file (with a .pck extension) for both the
message and metadata.  This should make MM2.1.5 half as hostile to the
file system.
The bin/upgrade script, which is run automatically when you upgrade,
should convert all the old style qfiles to the new style qfiles.  Note
that this could take a long time if you have a lot of files in your qfiles
subdirectories.  Pay particular attention to files you might have in
qfiles/shunt; these will get upgraded too, although files in qfiles/bad
will not.
	Actually, bin/upgrade doesn't exist.  But bin/update does.  And 
doing a "make install" will also run bin/update as well.  So, 
following the directions, "./configure; make install" should be what 
you need to do.

	Of course, you'll need to watch the options you pass to 
"configure", and replicate the ones you had previously used.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How can I update 2.1.3 --> 2.1.5?

[Brad Knowles]

At 5:44 PM +0100 2004/06/01, Ian A B Eiloart wrote:
 Now, one message said to check the UPDATES file. I have, but as far as
 I can see, it doesn't actually say what to do to update. It does give
 some advice about shutting down the MTA and the web site, and some other
 tips about what to do *while* upgrading, but doesn't describe the basic
 procedure.
I'm confused.  The UPGRADING file says:
UPGRADING FROM PREVIOUS VERSIONS
For the most part, upgrading Mailman is as easy as just installing the
latest version over the existing version.  However, there are some changes
that need to be taken care of manually.
What you need to do depends on the version you are using and the version
you are upgrading to.  In all cases, you should first turn off your mail
and web access to your Mailman installation.  You're essentially upgrading
a database, and it's usually a good idea to make sure the database cannot
be modified in the middle of the upgrade.

	What about this is not clear?  You turn off the MTA and the web 
server, and then you follow the instructions for installing the 
software.  That's about it.

	Hopefully, you will have kept all your changes in the mm_cfg.py 
file and not in the Defaults.py file, so that they will be carried 
over after the upgrade.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.0.11 problems

[Brad Knowles]

At 6:47 PM +0200 2004/06/01, Joachim Schwendtner wrote:
 when I send a mail to the mailman-list nobody of the list gets the mail
 but the list owner gets this information every 15 minutes.
 2004-06-01 18:23:02 1BVALM-Bq-00 Neither the system_aliases director
 nor the address_pipe transport set a uid for local delivery of
 |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post mailman
	This is an Exim problem, and not a problem with Mailman.  You'd 
be more likely to get useful help if you asked your question in a 
mailing list that is specific to this MTA, or to your OS.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with Spanish lenguage

[Brad Knowles]

At 6:04 PM +0200 2004/06/01, Sebastián Balboa wrote:
 I have been installed mailman version 2.1.5, and work fine, but when I
 put the Spanish language in any configuration list, mailman give me a
 bug html page, or if a message include a la Spanish letter like "ñ",
 it give me a bug page too.
	I suggest you visit the Mailman Internationalization page at 
, and contact the maintainer listed 
there for the Spanish translation (Juan Carlos Rey Anaya), and/or 
send a message to the Mailman Internationalization mailing list (see 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-i18n).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Corrupt subscribers file

[Brad Knowles]

At 8:38 AM -0700 2004/06/01, Con Wieland wrote:
 The list works otherwise and folks can continue to subscribe and
 unsubscribe. The only way I have found to remedy this is to remove
 the list and add it back. Does anyone have any ideas on an easier
 way to recover?
	Before you post to the list, you should check the FAQ to see if 
this is a known problem.

	In particular, see 
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounces

[Brad Knowles]

At 8:06 AM -0700 2004/06/01, Kevin W. Gagel wrote:
 What information do the developers need to add detection for 
unknown automated
 messages?
 Where do I send that information?

 I am using Netwin's DMail package with their DRespond for automated
 messages. It adds a header is that all Mailman needs to know about?
	The best thing would be to get Netwin to fix their software so 
that it sends back RFC-compliant Delivery Status Notifications -- 
Mailman already knows how to deal with those.  Indeed, most 
mail-related programs on the Internet already know how to deal with 
those, so by fixing this problem they'd make themselves much more 
compatible with the entire rest of the world.

	Otherwise, you need to take the bounce message format and write 
some Python code to properly parse that, and then submit that code to 
the Mailman developers.

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[Mailman-Users] mailman 2.0.11 problems

[Joachim Schwendtner]

when I send a mail to the mailman-list nobody of the list gets the mail 
but the list owner gets this information every 15 minutes.

2004-06-01 18:23:02 1BVALM-Bq-00 Neither the system_aliases 
director nor the
address_pipe transport set a uid for local delivery of
|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post mailman

I installed mailman 2.0.11 with apt-get on a debian-woody / with exim. 
I did the configuration changes in exim.conf like it is described in
http://www.exim.org/howto/mailman.html

there is a user called exim and a group called exim on my server.
who can help me?
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[Mailman-Users] How can I update 2.1.3 --> 2.1.5?

[Ian A B Eiloart]

Hi,
How can I update 2.1.3 --> 2.1.5?
I know this question was asked last month, but I'm afraid I didn't 
understand the answer.

I'm using the source download on Solaris (presumably, if I had a package it 
would be easier, and it would include specific documentation, but I don't). 
Oh, and I did the original installation, so I know about local hacks and so 
on.

Now, one message said to check the UPDATES file. I have, but as far as I 
can see, it doesn't actually say what to do to update. It does give some 
advice about shutting down the MTA and the web site, and some other tips 
about what to do *while* upgrading, but doesn't describe the basic 
procedure.

In last month's thread, this message was posted, but I don't understand it. 
is "make install" supposed to replace "make update", or follow it, or what?


> Is correct to use these to upgrade 2.1.1 --> 2.1.5 ?
>
> % cd xxx/mailman.2.1.5
> % ./configure
> % make update
  ^^ -> install
You should be careful about the configure options so that they are
exactly the same as the previous install. If you keep the previous
source tree, then look the head of config.log.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Monitoring MailMan

[Ralf Hildebrandt]

* mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>I am looking for a way to monitor mailman so that if the service
> crashes or stops then it will be restarted. 

Use daemontools

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[Mailman-Users] Problems with Spanish lenguage

[Sebastián Balboa]

I have been installed mailman version 2.1.5, and work fine, but when I 
put the Spanish language in any configuration list, mailman give me a 
bug html page, or if a message include a la Spanish letter like "ñ", it 
give me a bug page too.
I want to know if it possible how can i solve this problem.

Well, thank you very much.
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[Mailman-Users] Monitoring MailMan

[mail]

Hey everyone,

   I am looking for a way to monitor mailman so that if the service crashes or stops 
then it will be 
restarted.  I have been looking into watchdog but i am not sure if it will work for 
this.  Anyone used 
watchdog?  How does it know if the service is halted and not still running.
   I have also been thinking about using webmin.  Anyone used webmin to monitor 
mailman?

  Basically I am look for a good way to keep this service up and running for my users.


Thanks for the help,

Vince


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[Mailman-Users] Corrupt subscribers file

[Con Wieland]

After upgrading I have lists that now have invalid addresses, for 
example:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]@usc.edu
Also some have ? marks at the end also causing problems
When running:
https://maillists.uci.edu/mailman/admin/soe-enewsletter/members
I get the following error:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 198, in main
show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 501, in 
show_results
form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form))
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 873, in 
membership_options
all = [_m.encode() for _m in mlist.getMembers()]
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xa0 in position 
22: ordinal not in range(128)

The list works otherwise and folks can continue to subscribe and 
unsubscribe. The only way I have found to remedy this is to remove the 
list and add it back. Does anyone have any ideas on an easier way to 
recover?

Con Wieland
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[Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounces

[Kevin W. Gagel]

What information do the developers need to add detection for unknown automated
messages?
Where do I send that information?

I am using Netwin's DMail package with their DRespond for automated messages. It
adds a header is that all Mailman needs to know about?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe Commands

[Brad Knowles]

At 1:59 PM -0400 2004/05/28, Mike Phillips wrote:
 Isn't it possible to configure MM such that a message sent to listname-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribes a new member? I thought it worked that
 way, but I cannot get it to work. The Help message shows that
 subscribe is an option. Maybe something is set wrong.
	There is definitely an e-mail interface to Mailman.  If that's 
not working for you, then you probably have a problem with your list 
configuration.

	However, we'd need a lot more information from you before we can 
give you any further advice as to what the problem might be.  Example 
e-mail messages, Mailman log data, system syslog data, 
Mailman/Python/OS versions, etc... would all need to be included.

	If you are using Mailman via a service provided by someone else 
(e.g., CPanel), then you should be getting your support from them as 
well.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Server set up Doc.

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At 10:56 AM -0400 2004/05/30, Billy Jack Dial wrote:
 Do you need to set up a dns entry for list.host.com?
Yes.
 Do you need to set up a new web site for list.host.com, or a alies.
You need to set up at least a virtual host definition.
Please see the documentation for more details.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems...

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At 3:00 PM +0200 2004/05/30, Tommaso Leonardi wrote:
 RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias
 /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted)
Please check the FAQ before posting to the list.
	In particular, see 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Group Mismatch

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At 11:44 AM +0200 2004/06/01, Patrick Savelberg wrote:
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Command died with status 2: "/usr/share/mailman/mail/mailman
 post dkvall". Command output: Group mismatch error.  Mailman expected the
 mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but the system's
 mail server executed the mail script as group "adplus".  Try tweaking the
 mail server to run the script as group "mailman", or re-run configure,
 providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=adplus'.
 Reporting-MTA: dns; xserve.dkv.nl
Please check the FAQ before posting to the list.
	In particular, see 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Regular expressions/whitelists

[Richard Barrett]

Assuming you are using MM 2.1.x
I think you may have missed this in the help descriptions  of the 
Sender Filters Privacy options fields:


start the line with a ^ character to designate a regular  expression 
match


I would quess you want to say:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@(.+\.|)duke\.edu$
in the accept_these_nonmembers field to allow postings from aliases on 
the duke.edu mail domain, or one of its sub-domains to pass unhindered.

On 28 May 2004, at 18:28, Robert G. Brown wrote:
Dear Mailman users (and hopefully administrators and/or programmers),
We have some campus lists that we'd like to leave open to members and
everybody with addresses such as (in regexp form)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but cause all postings from non-duke.edu addresses to be held for the
moderator.  I cannot see how to do this with mailman's current privacy
settings -- I had thought one could "whitelist" by domain at the
administrator interface level with a suitable regular expression, but
when I try restricting to list members and putting this into the
"addresses of members accepted for posting..." box it doesn't work.
When I try other ways, such as leaving the list open to any posters (or
rather not restrict posting to list members) together with negated
regular expression rules in either the "addresses always held for
approval..." or the "Hold posts...specific regexp" boxes (the specific
regexp patterns I've tried are various things like:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
or
  from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  from: ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
and a few others) THAT doesn't work either.  I was intending this to
read as "headers that don't include from: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]".

So I guess I have a  question and/or suggestion:
  Is there any way to do what I'm trying to do at this level of mailman
  (that is, without hacking scripts or inserting procmail with suitable
  rules but rather through a regexp in one of the privacy boxes)?
If not, how about:
  Making the "always accepted" and "always held" list boxes accept
  simple rexexp's e.g.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (to accept or hold all duke.edu
  postings, depending on which box it is in) or at least enabling them
  to manage SOME sort of wildcard/domain level entries.
Adding the email of everybody on campus to one list or everybody in the
universe NOT on campus to the other list are not happy alternatives.
Even making the hold posts box (that already takes regexps) work with
negated regexps would do the trick, although the holds don't really 
take
place because of "suspicious headers" as explained in the hold message
to the poster.

Thanks!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors running check_db

[Brad Knowles]

At 1:48 AM -0400 2004/05/30, Bruce Embrey wrote:
 When running check_db -av I get an error on some lists "[Errno 2] No such
 file or directory: '/var/mailman/lists/listname/config.db.last'. Some of my
 lists have a number of files in their directories and some have only two
 (config.pck and config.pck.last). Is this a problem and what can be done to
 correct it?
	IIRC, config.db was used by Mailman 2.0.x, while config.pck is 
used by Mailman 2.1.x.  You're not trying to mix these two versions 
on the same sets of files are you?!?

 Also is it safe to tar up the entire mailman directory while
 mailman and the MTAand the HTTP servers are running?
	No.  It is not.  You need to stop both of them before you start 
moving things around or using tools like tar.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Adding a user via email

[Brad Knowles]

At 12:37 PM -0400 2004/05/27, Albert Clawson wrote:
 We have people who call us up and ask to be placed on our mailing list.
 Is there a way we can send an email command to the list that will then
 send out a confirmation request?
	Sure.  You'll have to pretend to be the person who called you up, 
but anyone can use the e-mail interface to Mailman.  See the 
documentation.

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[Mailman-Users] Problems...

[Tommaso Leonardi]

Hi,
I've a little problem, i hope you can help me :)

I've a Linux Mandrake 10 server with Postfix and Apache. The problem is tha when i 
create a new ML i get this error:
Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main
process_request(doc, cgidata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 226, in process_request
sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 232, in create
_update_maps()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in _update_maps
raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr)
RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases 
(status: 1, Operation not permitted)






Python information:
  Variable Value 
  sys.version 2.3.3 (#2, Feb 17 2004, 11:45:40) [GCC 3.3.2 (Mandrake Linux 10.0 
3.3.2-6mdk)]  
  sys.executable /usr/bin/python  
  sys.prefix /usr  
  sys.exec_prefix /usr  
  sys.path /usr  
  sys.platform linux2  






Environment variables:
  Variable Value 
  HTTP_REFERER  http://itm5.homeip.net/mailman/create  
  SERVER_SOFTWARE  Apache/1.3.31  
  SCRIPT_NAME  /mailman/create  
  SERVER_SIGNATURE  Apache/1.3.31 Server at itm5.homeip.net Port 80 
  REQUEST_METHOD  POST  
  SERVER_PROTOCOL  HTTP/1.1  
  QUERY_STRING   
  CONTENT_LENGTH  140  
  HTTP_USER_AGENT  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)  
  HTTP_CONNECTION  Keep-Alive  
  HTTP_COOKIE  
comunicazioni+admin=28020069ebaab94073280032633638333230353362666130373464383833623231323335643935333162626635343836363737;
 
primah+admin=2802006917d5b9407328006364376536633035653436623730373533306663623035663531623034313164636135356365;
 primah+user+tleonardi--at--fastwebnet.it=; 
qwe+admin=28020069acd8b94073280066336236663966646362393233323563346464353762316236653238373466373466353938646634;
 lang=italian; 
phpbb2mysql_data=a%3A2%3A%7Bs%3A11%3A%22autologinid%22%3Bs%3A0%3A%22%22%3Bs%3A6%3A%22userid%22%3Bs%3A1%3A%222%22%3B%7D;
 
user=MjpGZWFybGVzczpkM2JkNTBhODFmZWFjMzE3ZjZhYWY2OTBkMjkwYmFiODoxMDo6MDowOjA6MDo6NDA5Ng%3D%3D;
 admin=RmVhcmxlc3M6ZDNiZDUwYTgxZmVhYzMxN2Y2YWFmNjkwZDI5MGJhYjg6aXRhbGlhbg%3D%3D  
  SERVER_NAME  itm5.homeip.net  
  REMOTE_ADDR  62.101.126.217  
  SERVER_PORT  80  
  SERVER_ADDR  82.105.56.188  
  DOCUMENT_ROOT  /home/web/itm5  
  PYTHONPATH  /usr/local/mailman  
  SCRIPT_FILENAME  /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/create  
  SERVER_ADMIN  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  HTTP_HOST  itm5.homeip.net  
  HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL  no-cache  
  REQUEST_URI  /mailman/create  
  HTTP_ACCEPT  image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, 
application/x-shockwave-flash, */*  
  GATEWAY_INTERFACE  CGI/1.1  
  REMOTE_PORT  34207  
  HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE  it  
  CONTENT_TYPE  application/x-www-form-urlencoded  
  REMOTE_HOST  62-101-126-217.fastres.net  
  HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING  gzip, deflate  



The first list i create, even if i got the same error, works very well.
The other lists i create are able to sends massages, but whe i try to write to [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] i receive a MTA error saing that the local user doesn't exist...
I'm sorry if i write in the list with a bad english and without waiting some days 
after the subscription, but i absolutely need the list working in few days.
Thakyou very much,
Tommaso
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[Mailman-Users] a quick question

[A. Colson]

Hello. I am new to Mailman and I visited your helpful website and printed 
out the documentation. However, I can't not find or figure out how to 
actually send a message out to those who subscribed to my mailing lists.

Can you please tell me how? Thank you for your time.
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[Mailman-Users] Group Mismatch

[Patrick Savelberg]

Hi,
i'm new to the mailman ... i installed it with my macosx server 10.3.4 
...
and i put back the database from the early installation ...

When i want to sent a mail to the mailing list i get this error
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Command died with status 2: 
"/usr/share/mailman/mail/mailman
post dkvall". Command output: Group mismatch error.  Mailman 
expected the
mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but the 
system's
mail server executed the mail script as group "adplus".  Try 
tweaking the
mail server to run the script as group "mailman", or re-run 
configure,
providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=adplus'.
Reporting-MTA: dns; xserve.dkv.nl

How to fix this problem ???
thxs ..
Greetings,
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[Mailman-Users] Regular expressions/whitelists

[Robert G. Brown]

Dear Mailman users (and hopefully administrators and/or programmers),

We have some campus lists that we'd like to leave open to members and
everybody with addresses such as (in regexp form)

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

but cause all postings from non-duke.edu addresses to be held for the
moderator.  I cannot see how to do this with mailman's current privacy
settings -- I had thought one could "whitelist" by domain at the
administrator interface level with a suitable regular expression, but
when I try restricting to list members and putting this into the
"addresses of members accepted for posting..." box it doesn't work.

When I try other ways, such as leaving the list open to any posters (or
rather not restrict posting to list members) together with negated
regular expression rules in either the "addresses always held for
approval..." or the "Hold posts...specific regexp" boxes (the specific
regexp patterns I've tried are various things like:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
or
  from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  from: ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

and a few others) THAT doesn't work either.  I was intending this to
read as "headers that don't include from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]".

So I guess I have a  question and/or suggestion:

  Is there any way to do what I'm trying to do at this level of mailman
  (that is, without hacking scripts or inserting procmail with suitable
  rules but rather through a regexp in one of the privacy boxes)?

If not, how about:

  Making the "always accepted" and "always held" list boxes accept
  simple rexexp's e.g.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (to accept or hold all duke.edu
  postings, depending on which box it is in) or at least enabling them
  to manage SOME sort of wildcard/domain level entries.

Adding the email of everybody on campus to one list or everybody in the
universe NOT on campus to the other list are not happy alternatives.

Even making the hold posts box (that already takes regexps) work with
negated regexps would do the trick, although the holds don't really take
place because of "suspicious headers" as explained in the hold message
to the poster.

Thanks!

   rgb

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[Mailman-Users] Group Missmatch

[Patrick Savelberg]

Hi,
i'm new to the mailman ... i installed it with my macosx server 10.3.4 
...
and i put back the database from the early installation ...

When i want to sent a mail to the mailing list i get this error
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Command died with status 2: 
"/usr/share/mailman/mail/mailman
post dkvall". Command output: Group mismatch error.  Mailman 
expected the
mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but the 
system's
mail server executed the mail script as group "adplus".  Try 
tweaking the
mail server to run the script as group "mailman", or re-run 
configure,
providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=adplus'.
Reporting-MTA: dns; xserve.dkv.nl

How to fix this problem ???
thxs ..
Greetings,
Patrick
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[Mailman-Users] Subscribe Commands

[Mike Phillips]

Isn't it possible to configure MM such that a message sent to listname-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribes a new member? I thought it worked that 
way, but I cannot get it to work. The Help message shows that 
subscribe is an option. Maybe something is set wrong.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Web admin interface (permissions) problem

[Brad Knowles]

At 1:50 PM +0100 2004/06/01, Alexandra West wrote:
 We're running Mailman 2.1.4 with Python 2.2 on Woody (kernel 2.1.43),
 Apache 1.3.26. I have no problem configuring the lists from
 /var/lib/mailman/bin and viewing the results in the web admin interface.
 However, whenever I try to change anything through the web interface,
 all changes are lost after hitting the Submit changes button.
	Have you changed the URL for the list, without completely 
following the instructions at 
? 
Have you changed the list to secure it via HTTPS/SSL/TLS, without 
completely following the instructions at 
?

	Personally, it sounds to me like you're accessing the site via a 
redirect, which is tossing away the POST changes.  See also the 
entire thread including 
.

 Any ideas? Is there a FAQ I've overlooked? I can probably not see the
 wood for the trees anymore.
	The redirect issue has come up before.  If you can come up with a 
suitable entry for the Mailman FAQ, I'd encourage you to add it to 
the list.  Alternatively, if you can adequately describe your problem 
in a way that would be more obvious, then we can create a suitable 
FAQ entry and put it into the Wizard.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] export/import of lists

[Barbara B. Johansen]

When I moved my lists from 2.0.5 to 2.1.4 I used that script:
mylist=mellemrummet
mv old_inst/lists/$mylist new_inst/lists
mv old_inst/archives/private/$mylist new_inst/archives/private
mv old_inst/archives/private/$mylist.mbox new_inst/archives/private
rm old_installation/archives/public/$mylist
rm old_installation/archives/public/$mylist.mbox
cd new_inst
bin/withlist -l -r fix_url $mylist
Afterwards I had to remove all config.db and config.db.last files. It 
seems that the excistens of these files determine wether the old eller 
the new mailmaninstallation takes care of the incoming mail.

That was it. There was no need for special scripts for moving users og 
passwords. I think all information about a list is stored i the config* 
files.

Greetings
Barbara
Eduardo Jaime Quiros Batres wrote:
Searching the internet I found several references to just backup (tar or
something similar) my lists and restore them to another place and after
that just changing apache for the new virtual host, DNS, and aliases
but I'm finding some things strange, it seems the filenames are rather
diferent:
OLD server:
version: mailman-2.0.13-1U80_1cl
list of files in /usr/lib/mailman/lists/test:
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root mailman  1706 Dez 14  2001 admindbpreamble.html
-rw-rw 1 mailman  mailman  2900 Mai 29 17:00 config.db
-rw-rw 1 mailman  mailman  2900 Mai 29 12:00 config.db.last
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root mailman   189 Dez 14  2001 handle_opts.html
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root mailman  1026 Dez 14  2001 headfoot.html
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root mailman  3136 Dez 14  2001 listinfo.html
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root mailman  4106 Dez 14  2001 options.html
-rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman  mailman 2 Mai 29 17:00 request.db
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root mailman  1169 Dez 14  2001 roster.html
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root mailman   198 Dez 14  2001 subscribe.html
NEW server:
version: mailman-2.1.4-2mdk
lists of files in  /var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman:
-rw-rw  1 mail mail 3415 Mai 29 19:03 config.pck
-rw-rw  1 mail mail 3415 Mai 29 18:50 config.pck.last
---
permissions/owner can be changed easelly but the files are so different!
Does anyone have a script to:
1) export users, import in a new list
2) save passwords of each list and recover (altough the size os the
crypt password if rather diferent I don't want to contact each list
owner
3) export/import history
4) export/import configuration of the list (owner, public/private etc)
Thanks
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[Mailman-Users] Server set up Doc.

[Billy Jack Dial]

Hello,
Do you need to set up a dns entry for list.host.com?
Do you need to set up a new web site for list.host.com, or a alies.
I set up mail man and all works fine just can't access the web site 
list.host.com. says unable to locate server??

Thanks.
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[Mailman-Users] Errors running check_db

[Bruce Embrey]

Mailman Users:

 

When running check_db -av I get an error on some lists "[Errno 2] No such
file or directory: '/var/mailman/lists/listname/config.db.last'. Some of my
lists have a number of files in their directories and some have only two
(config.pck and config.pck.last). Is this a problem and what can be done to
correct it? Also is it safe to tar up the entire mailman directory while
mailman and the MTAand the HTTP servers are running?

 

Bruce Embrey

 

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[Mailman-Users] Adding a user via email

[Albert Clawson]

We have people who call us up and ask to be placed on our mailing list.
Is there a way we can send an email command to the list that will then
send out a confirmation request?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] query

[Brad Knowles]

At 3:41 PM +0530 2004/06/01, Sumit AGARWAL wrote:
 On admin login I want to autanticate user from the user values stored
 in my mysql database.
	This is not possible with the current version of Mailman.  IIRC, 
there has been some discussion of adding back-end database features 
to Mailman 3, but I don't know the specifics of that work.

	There may also be some unofficial patches from third-parties 
which provide back-end database features for Mailman.  You would do 
well to search the Mailman SourceForge page at 
, and especially the list of 
patches at .

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[Mailman-Users] Web admin interface (permissions) problem

[Alexandra West]

Hello everybody,

We're running Mailman 2.1.4 with Python 2.2 on Woody (kernel 2.1.43),
Apache 1.3.26. I have no problem configuring the lists from
/var/lib/mailman/bin and viewing the results in the web admin interface.
However, whenever I try to change anything through the web interface,
all changes are lost after hitting the Submit changes button.

I've checked permissions and compared it to the setup of Mailman 2.0.11
on another machine where the interface is working, but to no avail.

I'm convinced this is something really simple but I can't find it and
it's driving me crazy since I'm under pressure to have it finished by
tomorrow. So please forgive me if you've heard this one before (I've
found other posts describing the same problem but maddeningly there were
no answers).

Any ideas? Is there a FAQ I've overlooked? I can probably not see the
wood for the trees anymore.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Alexandra


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[Mailman-Users] query

[Sumit AGARWAL]

On admin login I want to autanticate user from the user values stored in my mysql 
database.
How I can do it?
sumit


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