[Mailman-Users] Sender address..
Hi! I am using Mailman on the FreeBSD + Mailscanner and Sendmail and it works great. I have a question however regarding the sender address in the emails which is sent to the list members. Currently the address looks like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I only want to show the original sender address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it possible to configure Mailman to change the list sender address like above? Regards Stefan Sundberg -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender address..
Stefan Sundberg wrote: I have a question however regarding the sender address in the emails which is sent to the list members. Currently the address looks like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I only want to show the original sender address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it possible to configure Mailman to change the list sender address like above? See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman extension - Web compsition and templates
On 8/23/06, Steven Camp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any know ways to extend mailman to add ConstantContact.Com type features such as Browser based email composition, Newsletter Templates, View Tracking, etc.? Not that I've heard about on list. There are many webmail solutions that will give you, at least, browser-based email composition, though. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Can mailman filter on a word in the body of an email?
Hi; I searched the archive, but maybe not well enough. Can mailman filter emails based on words in the body of an email, similar to majordomo? Thanks much in advance for the info __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam avoidance, revisited: best practices?
On 8/23/06, Dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you need is a script that will check the moderation setting, check the time since subscription, and reset the setting if the threshold is reached. You would then run that script as a cron job. I don't know if there is a way to find the time somebody subscribed, I don't think it is stored in the config.pck for the list but it may be in a log somewhere. An easier solution might be to just maintain a small DB for the cron script that knows the first time it's 'seen' a given member. You only need to store data about currently moderated members, so it should keep the DB relatively small. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List Copy
See FAQ 3.4: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.004.htp On 8/23/06, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to move 1 list from one server to another server. Which files do I need to copy, I already have mailman setup and running on the new server. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/pdbogen%40gmail.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can mailman filter on a word in the body of anemail?
Steve wrote: Can mailman filter emails based on words in the body of an email, similar to majordomo? No. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam avoidance, revisited: best practices?
Re: Spam avoidance, revisited: best practices? Thanks all for the guidance and suggestions. It's good stuff. I'm always open to further ideas. -Matt -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Need to stop mailman
Hi Guy's, Problem: Mailman is sending out unsolicited emails and I want to clear out the remaining emails. I will stop the service (at the machine itself) by: /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop The list in question is sending out unsolicited emails according to the person who once a month sends out an advertisement for his company. I have asked for examples and I am being stonewalled - don't know why he won't send me an example. He is the only one authorized to send mail - I set that myself. I am not only the list owner, but I am the only one with passwords to the root and list. I have removed the network cable from the server and will access the server on site to type in the code above. After typing in the stop code I will reattach the network cable so I can view the root via secure shell at my office. After that I can use the html interface to view the list settings. Question: What do I look for? Have I missed anything? Is there a file that holds emails that need to be sent out? Has anyone else had this problem? Is this guy blowing smoke up my *(^%? Thanks, Warm regards, Gary . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] To: Address Modification
Is there a way to configure mailman so that the To: address is the actual address of the recipient, instead of the list's address? For example, when I send a message the the list, mailman-users@python.org, could it be setup where the To: address of that message is specific to each subscriber? So, if [EMAIL PROTECTED] is subscribed to mailman-users@python.org, and a message is sent to mailman-users@python.org, mailman-users@python.org sends a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] To: Address Modification
Ki Song wrote: Is there a way to configure mailman so that the To: address is the actual address of the recipient, instead of the list's address? End original message. - Search the FAQ for personalization That should always be the first place to go to look for answers followed by searching the list archives. Links to both the FAQ and the archives are in the footer of every e-mail posted to this list. Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] To: Address Modification
At 12:43 PM -0400 2006-08-24, Ki Song wrote: Is there a way to configure mailman so that the To: address is the actual address of the recipient, instead of the list's address? That's called full personalization. Search the FAQ for the string personalization, and read the various items that have been returned. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Need to stop mailman
At 11:57 AM -0400 2006-08-24, Gary Hall wrote: Question: What do I look for? Have I missed anything? Is there a file that holds emails that need to be sent out? Some messages will have been delivered by Mailman to your MTA, so you will also need to clean out those messages. How those are stored by your MTA will vary by the program, and you'll need to use their resources (books, online documentation, FAQs, mailing lists, etc...) in order to learn how to properly clean out their queues. Mailman also maintains its own queue of messages that are going to be sent out, but which have not yet been handed to the MTA. Look in /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/out, or /var/mailman/qfiles/out, or wherever it is that your OS puts the Mailman queue directory structure. Has anyone else had this problem? Not the way you've described it, no. Is this guy blowing smoke up my *(^%? That would be my impression, but perhaps there is something happening that you are not aware of and have not included in your description of the problem. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender address..
On 8/24/06 6:48 AM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp.
Unfortunately, both domains used in the examples at the top of that FAQ
entry exist (although the FQDNs of the hosts mailman and poster within those
domains do not, so having the FAQ as is isn't TOO bad).
Is there any interest in sanitizing the FAQ by adjusting examples to follow
RFC 2606 as closely as possible? I'm reasonably sure that 2.003 isn't the
only entry which could use adjustment.
As closely as possible because we wouldn't want to confuse things by
putting the mailman server AND the poster both into the
example.{com,org,net} domains. But we could use mailman.example or
mailman.something.example for the server and poster.example.com for the
poster without TOO much confusion.
--John
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender address..
At 10:41 AM -0700 2006-08-24, John W. Baxter wrote: Is there any interest in sanitizing the FAQ by adjusting examples to follow RFC 2606 as closely as possible? I'm reasonably sure that 2.003 isn't the only entry which could use adjustment. Sure, that's a great idea. The Mailman FAQ Wizard is a community-supported facility, and all the information you need for making updates or creating entire new entries is provided on the page. In a way, this is kind of like a wiki, although it has a much simpler syntax, and is a lot easier than most wikis that I've encountered. If you're up for it, please go ahead and make the appropriate changes. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a Bug during server move
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:00:56 -0400, Anne Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm moving my mailman lists to a new server and when I go to the web interface, I now get: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. But there is no information in the Mailman logs or the apache logs about this error and my posts to the lists fail. Any pointers would be much appreciated. -- Anne Ramey Is there any log messages in /var/mailman/logs/error or somewhere esle you store your mailman ``var-prefix''? -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
Forgot to mention -- I'm running Mailman 2.1.5. Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a Bug during server move
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:07:48 -0400, Anne Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oleg D. wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:00:56 -0400, Anne Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm moving my mailman lists to a new server and when I go to the web interface, I now get: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. But there is no information in the Mailman logs or the apache logs about this error and my posts to the lists fail. Any pointers would be much appreciated. -- Anne Ramey Is there any log messages in /var/mailman/logs/error or somewhere esle you store your mailman ``var-prefix''? No, there was nothing. I finally figured out that my permissions lost the suid in transfer. I can now access my web portion. Now I just need to test if my post failures were related. Thank you for your response. Anne It is a good practice to use `$PREFIX/mailman/bin/check_perms` after setting up a new mailman (; -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a Bug during server move
OK, my cgi-bin was missing the suid. Now all I need to figure out is my post failures. -- Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Hit a Bug during server move
I'm moving my mailman lists to a new server and when I go to the web interface, I now get: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. But there is no information in the Mailman logs or the apache logs about this error and my posts to the lists fail. Any pointers would be much appreciated. -- Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:55:48 -0500, Allan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a clue as to why one of our people might not be receiving messages he is sending to lists to which he is subscribed? I've checked and see his address on the membership list for each list. The mod box is unchecked. (I'm also subscribed to these lists and received all the messages he sent out.) But he hasn't received any of them. My first thought was a filter or rule on his local email client. But I don't see any evidence of that. Therefore I'm suspicious there's a setting somewhere in Mailman that is preventing his messages from being sent to himself. Thanks in advance! Allan Seems like there's some problem in user's settings, did he checked ``Sent my own posts to list to me'' or some like that? -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
Anyone have a clue as to why one of our people might not be receiving messages he is sending to lists to which he is subscribed? I've checked and see his address on the membership list for each list. The mod box is unchecked. (I'm also subscribed to these lists and received all the messages he sent out.) But he hasn't received any of them. My first thought was a filter or rule on his local email client. But I don't see any evidence of that. Therefore I'm suspicious there's a setting somewhere in Mailman that is preventing his messages from being sent to himself. Thanks in advance! Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
At 03:20 PM 8/24/2006, Dan wrote: 1) There IS a setting to choose whether or not to receive one's own posts on the users options page. On the administrative membership management page it's the not metoo column. Check to see if that's checked. not metoo is not checked. However, no dupes WAS checked. I've unchecked that field for the affected users. Think that could be the culprit? I'm going to wait until we have another broadcast email going out to see the results. 2) Is it a gmail account? Gmail (and possibly others) filter out by message ID anything that came from the the recipient. Nope, not Gmail. But good to know of that behavior; it might crop up as a question in the future from one of our users. Oleg also wrote: Seems like there's some problem in user's settings, did he checked ``Sent my own posts to list to me'' or some like that? That option is set to Yes for the users I'm dealing with. So I'm mystified--if it's not the settings change I described above. Thanks, guys! Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender address..
On 8/24/06 11:11 AM, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:41 AM -0700 2006-08-24, John W. Baxter wrote: Is there any interest in sanitizing the FAQ by adjusting examples to follow RFC 2606 as closely as possible? I'm reasonably sure that 2.003 isn't the only entry which could use adjustment. Sure, that's a great idea. The Mailman FAQ Wizard is a community-supported facility, and all the information you need for making updates or creating entire new entries is provided on the page. In a way, this is kind of like a wiki, although it has a much simpler syntax, and is a lot easier than most wikis that I've encountered. If you're up for it, please go ahead and make the appropriate changes. OK, thanks. I was volunteering, but didn't want to forge ahead without letting the idea be visible for a while. I'll wait a while longer for a possible veto. (More to do during my off duty hours. Say I, who got nine pages around 03:15 yesterday (local time, unfortunately) from our monitors.) --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
Getting more reports now of other internal users (we have people subscribed within our firewall on our Exchange mail server as well as people outside with all other kinds of email addresses) not getting all messages. In each case, it sounds like they get ONE message, whereas they're on between 4 and 20 different lists. They should be getting 4-20 copies of the same message (one for each list they're on). But they're only getting ONE. I can't see anything different in the settings for the one successful list (not the same one for all users). Is it possible that Exchange is trying to be helpful by not delivering the additional messages since they're all the same? There is nothing in the Junk folder, but it seems logical that the mail system might be interfering with the mail delivery here. We just went to Exchange; previously we were on sendmail and everything worked OK. Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
At 05:53 PM 8/24/2006, Dan Phillips wrote: That's what the nodupes setting is supposed to prevent. IIRC, you said you cleared that flag? Actually, looks like the nodupes box is checked on most if not all of our user records. Each school year we dump and reimport all the addresses for all our lists (because we don't have a direct link to Exchange or our Banner administration system). I guess when I did the import everything came in with nodupes checked. Is there a global way to uncheck that for everyone on all our lists? I certainly don't want to go in to each person's record and uncheck that box. :-) Thx, Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] qmail setup question
Hi, I'm trying to set up Mailman on a Fedora Core 5 system running qmail. I'm using the current yum (rpm) package of Mailman. The 2.1 Installation Manual says: Then make your aliases: .qmail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] letters .qmail-owner = mailman-owner’s letters I can't parse this - can someone break it down for me? What does [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s letters mean? Thanks, hope this is not too dumb. Peter -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender address..
John W. Baxter wrote: OK, thanks. I was volunteering, but didn't want to forge ahead without letting the idea be visible for a while. I'll wait a while longer for a possible veto. I agree with Brad and welcome your help. I try to be diligent about using example.com as the domain in stuff that I write, but I'm sure I slip at least occasionally. From now on, I'll try to 'correct' inappropriate domains in stuff I'm editing. (More to do during my off duty hours. Say I, who got nine pages around 03:15 yesterday (local time, unfortunately) from our monitors.) Ouch! -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a Bug during server move
Anne Ramey wrote: OK, my cgi-bin was missing the suid. Now all I need to figure out is my post failures. Is $prefix/mail/mailman also missing SETGID? If that's not it, does your MTA use aliases for Mailman, and if so, are they there? What's in the MTA log for an attempted post? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
Allan Trick wrote: Anyone have a clue as to why one of our people might not be receiving messages he is sending to lists to which he is subscribed? I've checked and see his address on the membership list for each list. The mod box is unchecked. (I'm also subscribed to these lists and received all the messages he sent out.) But he hasn't received any of them. My first thought was a filter or rule on his local email client. But I don't see any evidence of that. Therefore I'm suspicious there's a setting somewhere in Mailman that is preventing his messages from being sent to himself. As Oleg points out, there is a user setting called Receive your own posts to the list? on the user options page and not metoo on the Membership Management...-Membership List pages. If that is not the answer, perhaps the user is using a gmail.com address. Gmail has a sarcasm wonderful /sarcasm feature that ignores the received post because it is a duplicate of an already saved message (the sent post). -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
Allan Trick wrote: Actually, looks like the nodupes box is checked on most if not all of our user records. Each school year we dump and reimport all the addresses for all our lists (because we don't have a direct link to Exchange or our Banner administration system). I guess when I did the import everything came in with nodupes checked. First of all, nodups will only affect this issue if the user's address in in a To: or Cc: header of the post. If not, nodups is not the answer. Is there a global way to uncheck that for everyone on all our lists? I certainly don't want to go in to each person's record and uncheck that box. :-) First of all, look at the new_member_options setting on the list's General Options page and make sure it reflects what you want. As far as a global way to turn off nodups for everyone, this would be a withlist script, but I doubt that this is your answer. See post to follow re: exchange. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
Allan Trick wrote: Is it possible that Exchange is trying to be helpful by not delivering the additional messages since they're all the same? Absolutely! I believe Exchange does exactly that (at least if the messages arrive within some defined time interval). -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
At 2:55 PM -0500 2006-08-24, Allan Trick wrote: My first thought was a filter or rule on his local email client. But I don't see any evidence of that. Therefore I'm suspicious there's a setting somewhere in Mailman that is preventing his messages from being sent to himself. In cases like this, the first thing to check is the Mailman logs, to see how many copies of each message was delivered to the MTA, and then to check the MTA logs to track down the individual deliveries to each user. Knowing how many people you have subscribed to each list (which are not nomail and not set to digest mode) and how many copies of the message were distributed will tell you something about how many duplicates may have been removed by Mailman, etc Then you can look at the MTA logs to check on any one particular copy of the message. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
Allan Trick wrote: My first thought was a filter or rule on his local email client. But I don't see any evidence of that. Therefore I'm suspicious there's a setting somewhere in Mailman that is preventing his messages from being sent to himself. You could look at Mailman's smtp log to see to how many recipients the message was sent. By comparing that number to the number of list members minus the number of digest members minus the number of members with delivery disabled (see bin/list_members --help), you can verify that mailman sent to everyone or not. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Sendmail can't keep up with qfiles/out director
Our mail server is getting overloaded and the out directory will hit over 7,000 in just one day, and we can't clear them out fast enough. We are using Sendmail as our MTA. How can we speed things up? -Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail can't keep up with qfiles/out director
At 7:49 PM -0600 2006-08-24, Rob Jackson wrote: Our mail server is getting overloaded and the out directory will hit over 7,000 in just one day, and we can't clear them out fast enough. We are using Sendmail as our MTA. How can we speed things up? Well, two things: 1. This sounds like an MTA problem, and not a mailing list problem. This mailing list is dedicated to the topic of supporting the Mailman mailing list manager, and although we use MTAs, it really isn't our purpose to support MTAs, and certainly not specific MTAs. 2. If you search the FAQ Wizard for sendmail and performance, you will find some pointers to information that can help you do some tuning of your system, especially to Nick Christenson's book _Sendmail Performance Tuning_. In general, when you have a problem with a particular system, it's usually best to get support from the people who develop that system or help to support it, as opposed to going somewhere else and asking people who may be only peripherally involved in using that same kind of system (among others). -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
Brad Knowles wrote: check the Mailman logs, to see how many copies of each message was delivered to the MTA, and then check the MTA logs to track down the individual deliveries to each user. OK, I'll do that. But once I determine the problem, then how to fix it? Say I confirm Mailman is only delivering one copy of a message (rather than 20), what can I do? (First thing I do will probably be to come right back here and post!) Allan mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
At 9:26 PM -0400 2006-08-24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I'll do that. But once I determine the problem, then how to fix it? A lot depends on where the problem is. Say I confirm Mailman is only delivering one copy of a message (rather than 20), what can I do? (First thing I do will probably be to come right back here and post!) We may need to have more debugging information before we can answer these kinds of questions. If so, you may have to add some Python code which provides the additional debugging information in the logs. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Having a simple unsubscribe webpage
Hi, I need help! I am at my wits end (especially since I am not being a proficient programmer). I have found useful HTML code on the Mailman website that sets up a subscription webpage - However, I want an unsubscribe button so that list members can come to a webpage, type in their email and have it removed directly - no questions asked (i.e. no redirection to the mailman admin pages, no confirmation emails etc) and I cant seem to be able to do so. Please help - any advice greatly appreciated. Hope to hear from someone, somehow Naj Dehlavi Communications ___ NZ Federation of Voluntary Welfare Organisations ___ PO Box 9517 Wellington New Zealand Phone 04 3850981 Fax 04 3853248 www.nzfvwo.org.nz ___ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
Exchange is really all that's recently changed in our environment. I think I'll focus my trouble-shooting there now. Thank you, all! Allan mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Having a simple unsubscribe webpage
Naj Dehlavi wrote: I have found useful HTML code on the Mailman website that sets up a subscription webpage - However, I want an unsubscribe button so that list members can come to a webpage, type in their email and have it removed directly - no questions asked (i.e. no redirection to the mailman admin pages, no confirmation emails etc) and I cant seem to be able to do so. First you have to ask yourself if you really want to allow anyone to unsubscribe anyone else without any verification. If this is a discussion list, this is a really bad idea - e.g., usera doesn't like a post from userb so usera unsubscribes userb. Even if it is an announcement list, it may not be a good idea. If you really want to do it, without any questions/confirmations, you'll have to either invoke a mailman command line tool like bin/remove_members from your web page or create your own CGI script. If you don't have administrative access to your Mailman server, you can't do it. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Having a simple unsubscribe webpage
Thanks Mark, The list is used for announcements to our members who are disinclined to engage any further than being passive recipients. Yes, we also have administrative access to the mailman server. I had been hoping that there would have been some code in the listarchives that would have allowed us to do a cut and paste job by tweaking variables - being a voluntary organisation limits our internal IT capability and certainly closes off the prospect of paying someone else to come in with a solution. Thanks for your prompt input nonetheless. I'll attempt to unravel something over the weekend. Best regards, Naj Dehlavi Communications ___ NZ Federation of Voluntary Welfare Organisations ___ PO Box 9517 Wellington New Zealand Phone 04 3850981 Fax 04 3853248 www.nzfvwo.org.nz ___ -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 25 August 2006 2:49 p.m. To: Naj Dehlavi; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Having a simple unsubscribe webpage Naj Dehlavi wrote: I have found useful HTML code on the Mailman website that sets up a subscription webpage - However, I want an unsubscribe button so that list members can come to a webpage, type in their email and have it removed directly - no questions asked (i.e. no redirection to the mailman admin pages, no confirmation emails etc) and I cant seem to be able to do so. First you have to ask yourself if you really want to allow anyone to unsubscribe anyone else without any verification. If this is a discussion list, this is a really bad idea - e.g., usera doesn't like a post from userb so usera unsubscribes userb. Even if it is an announcement list, it may not be a good idea. If you really want to do it, without any questions/confirmations, you'll have to either invoke a mailman command line tool like bin/remove_members from your web page or create your own CGI script. If you don't have administrative access to your Mailman server, you can't do it. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
