Re: [Mailman-Users] Obtaining Membership List
On 3/11/2013 3:03 PM, William McQueen wrote: I first need to say I am not a professional tech person. But Mailman version 2.1.15 comes with my site, so I've been running it for my Adult Education Association. Now, our Pres would like to get the listing of the membership and I don't know any quick or easy way of obtaining the list of 330 subscribers for her. Could someone explain how I can get the subscribers' list. Would gratefully appreciate it. Cheers, Bill McQueen in Toronto If you have access to the command line there is nothing easier. Using my system as an example (you will need to know where mailman was installed): $ /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members listname will get an alphabetized list by email address $ /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members -f listname will get a list including the full name (if it exists) for each subscriber. Given the size of your list you'll probably want to capture to a file so: $ /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members listname > ~/list_subscribers.txt will put the output in a file called list_subscribers.txt in your home directory. Then it's just a matter of using ftp (or whatever mechanism you usually use) to get the file to your local computer. I'm not aware of any easy way to do this from the web interface. Perhaps someone else can help with that. -- Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] configuration glitch causing mail delivery fail
I recently moved my email server (with mailman) onto a new server with a different host name. In previous moves the server name was always email.marmot.org (which has an mx record).The server it's on now has a different name and does not have an mx record. I did add the old IP address to the public interface so DNS still points to that box as the mail server and by the name email.marmot.org and I have that in /etc/hosts. Unfortunately when mailman sends messages they fail to deliver to most of the list subscribers and the maillog shows that the helo used is the actual name of the server, not the name of the email server. Naturally the receiving server disconnects when the names isn't right. I could understand this with the move to the new server except every where I know to configure this (both postfix and mailman) I have the name email.marmot.org configured as the URL of the host. Regular email works fine from that box, just mailman is having a problem sending. Does anyone have any idea what I'm missing? -- Steve Lindemann, MSIS __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network \\// against HTML/RTF email, +1.970.242.3331 x116 //\\ vCards & M$ attachments http://www.marmot.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] configuration glitch causing mail delivery fail (FIXED)
On 1/7/2014 4:40 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 01/07/2014 03:18 PM, Steve Lindemann wrote: Unfortunately when mailman sends messages they fail to deliver to most of the list subscribers and the maillog shows that the helo used is the actual name of the server, not the name of the email server. Naturally the receiving server disconnects when the names isn't right. How is Mailman delivering mail? If it is delivering to a local MTA on localhost, how it identifies itself in HELO to this MTA is irrelevant as it is this MTA, not Mailman that is attempting delivery to the recipient MX. I could understand this with the move to the new server except every where I know to configure this (both postfix and mailman) I have the name email.marmot.org configured as the URL of the host. Regular email works fine from that box, just mailman is having a problem sending. Does anyone have any idea what I'm missing? In the normal case, Mailman relays mail through the local MTA (Postfix). How Mailman identifies itself to this MTA is irrelevant as long as the MTA accepts the mail from Mailman (does it)? If the local postfix can deliver mail, but not Mailman's mail, the only thing I can see that would affect this is the envelope sender which would be LISTNAME-bounces@HOSTNAME where HOSTNAME is the list's host_name attribute. Damn... that was fun. It took two things to get it working again. I needed to rename the server to something with a mx record, in this case: email.marmot.org vrs what it was. AND I had to turn off ipv6 on the interfaces. Mailman and postfix are on the same box. Somehow the mailman messages where picking up the ipv6 localhost address as the source of the original message and it appears that being rejected by receiving servers. Once I renamed the server and ditched ipv6 the messages started delivering again. -- Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] configuration glitch causing mail delivery fail (FIXED)
On 1/8/2014 5:46 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 01/08/2014 01:43 PM, Steve Lindemann wrote: Somehow the mailman messages where picking up the ipv6 localhost address as the source of the original message ... Probably because the /etc/hosts entry for 'localhost' is the ipv6 address. oh damn... I never even thought to look there. I really do need to remember to keep it simple and go with the basics. Especially since turning ipv6 off in centos turned out to be a lot harder than I ever expected it should be. The ipv6 localhost address was the second line in the hosts file and ipv4 was the first. I thought the first line would have taken precedence unless mailman is specifically asking for the ipv6 localhost first. Either way, I've cleaned that up now too. Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] really dumb question on getting started; extracting archive
Holmes, Deb wrote: > How do you unzip the .tar and .gz files prior to install? For most > applications that I'm running on my unix based web server, my process is to > unzip on my Windows XP box prior to uploading to the web server. I know > basically nothing about unix except how to post files and write simple .cgi > code. I'm wanting to install mailman in conjunction with a WordPress plug-in > and am pretty much expecting that between WordPress and the WP mailman plug > in I won't need to know very much about the unix stuff underneath. But the > archive format has me stumped before I even get out the gate. > don't mess with the windoze system... just put the file in the directory on your *nix system that you want it unpacked in and: $ tar -xf .tar $ gunzip .gz and for zipped tarballs (which I use a far bit): $ tar -xzf .tar.gz the man pages for tar and gunzip will explain all the switches, and there are a bunch, but you only need the ones shown to get what you want. I usually add the -v switch (for verbose) as I like to see what's happening. >>>snip<<< -- Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\// against HTML/RTF email, url: http://www.marmot.org //\\ vCards & M$ attachments email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: +1.970.242.3331 ext 116 fax: +1.970.245.7854 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] bounce file questions
I have two questions... I've looked at the FAQ and can't find the answer. Not to say it isn't there but searching on the string "bounce" I didn't see an answer to either question. 1) Is it safe to delete a file hung up in mailman/qfiles/bounces? I have one -rw-rw 1 nobody mailman 3751 Jan 2 07:02 1199282543.316215+a0fe738c4585516ea7c4b848e2a18442fc616c5c.bak that I think I can delete (contents are spam anyway) 2) Is it safe to delete a file "bounce-events-*.pck" hung up in mailman/data? I have one -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 5764 Jan 24 00:00 bounce-events-03252.pck that isn't going away. I've watched the directory and other bounce-events files have appeared and disappeared (eventually). Just out of curiosity I checked the logs and: # grep 1199282543.316215 /var/log/mailman/* error.3:Jan 02 07:02:23 2008 (3252) Ignoring unparseable message: 1199282543.316215+a0fe738c4585516ea7c4b848e2a18442fc616c5c error.3:Jan 24 08:08:10 2008 (3281) Ignoring unparseable message: 1199282543.316215+a0fe738c4585516ea7c4b848e2a18442fc616c5c I'm assuming (and all that entails) that it is safe to simply delete these files, but wanted to check with anyone smarter about mailman than I'm likely to ever be first. Thanks! -- Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\// against HTML/RTF email, url: http://www.marmot.org //\\ vCards & M$ attachments email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: +1.970.242.3331 ext 116 fax: +1.970.245.7854 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] how do I delete a pending subsc request for the mailman list
When I installed mailman a default list called mailman was created (as I'm sure everyone here already knows) and I understood it was not used for anything but management. I've pretty much ignored it since the initial installation. Anyway, a member of one of our other lists somehow got herself listed as requesting a subscription to the mailman list. I keep getting this message every morning: > The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has 1 request(s) waiting for your > consideration at: > > http://email.marmot.org/mailman/admindb/mailman > > Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of > pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily. > > Pending subscriptions: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Xxx, Xx) Mon Mar 17 13:36:44 2008 Following the provided link doesn't take me to the usual login page, instead I end up on the generic listinfo page (email.marmot.org/mailman/listinfo). I can log into the list management interface for the mailman list, but when I click on the link to "Tend to pending moderator requests" I end up on the same general listinfo page instead. I found the controlling file(s) in /var/mailman/lists/mailman... leastwise the members name and address are in the request.pck file. Can I simply delete request.pck (and/or request.db) to clear this? Is there anything else I need to do to clear the pending subscription? Thanks! -- Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\// against HTML/RTF email, url: http://www.marmot.org //\\ vCards & M$ attachments email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: +1.970.242.3331 ext 116 fax: +1.970.245.7854 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] list address in From: line post message to closed list
I'm sorry, I'm just not sure what the best subject line would be for this... 8^(I'm sure this has been going on for ages, but it's only just recently been brought to my attention. The problem - when the list email address is (spoofed) in the From: line (as well as being on the To: line) the message posts to the list. The ability to post to the list is supposed to be restricted to only list members. The list address is not in the list of list members. Is this normal? I checked the config and there did see anything to allow this behavior there. Is the list email address automatically considered to be a member of the list? I can always block it in "privacy options->sender filters", but should that even be necessary? Help! I checked what documentation I can find and couldn't find any mention of this behaviour. I didn't have a clue how to look for it in the FAQ so I settled for reading the index and didn't see anything resembling this there either. -- Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\// against HTML/RTF email, url: http://www.marmot.org //\\ vCards & M$ attachments email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: +1.970.242.3331 ext 116 fax: +1.970.245.7854 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] list address in From: line post message to closed list
Dragon wrote: > Steve Lindemann sent the message below at 12:18 4/3/2008: >> >> The problem - when the list email address is (spoofed) in the From: line >> (as well as being on the To: line) the message posts to the list. The >> ability to post to the list is supposed to be restricted to only list >> members. The list address is not in the list of list members. >> >> Is this normal? I checked the config and there did see anything to >> allow this behavior there. Is the list email address automatically >> considered to be a member of the list? I can always block it in >> "privacy options->sender filters", but should that even be necessary? Help! >> > End original message. - > > This seemed rather strange to me too so I decided to test it on my > server. I have 2.1.10b3 installed from source on a Redhat machine. My > list is configured for posts from non-members to be discarded. > > I sent a message to one of my lists using the list address in the > From: header. The message was discarded as I expected it would be and > I confirmed this by an entry in the vette log. > > So it works on my installation as I expect it would. The question now > is, what is the difference between my source install and your > installation. Are you using a cPanel or Plesk version, or a version > installed from somebody else's package maybe through yum or something similar? > > Are you certain that the message was distributed via the list? > > Is it in the list archive? > > Can you match the message ID to one in the post log? > > If you can see it in the archive and post log then it did get > processed through mailman. If not, perhaps it was BCC'ed to your > address or there is something else going on with your MTA. > > Dragon I'm running version 2.1.9, installed from a tarball on a Dell server running CentOS 5. I administer from the command line and thru the web interface. It's a pretty basic install. I went thru the logs and saw the message hit our email server (originally from 5850-260-1-62.dialup.samtel.ru), it gets passed to mailman and I see the post entry showing it's arrival into mailman then then smtp entry showing it's delivery back to the email server. I confirmed the delivery to the 144 recipients (fortunately this is a small list) in the mail log. I am one of the recipients on this list, but in my case spamassassin flagged the message and it gets filtered away. I just widened my search thru the mailman logs and noticed some other lists (in the vette log) holding messages for moderation with the list email in the From: line. So it does appear to be something in this specific list that's misconfigured. I'm off to poke around the config again but I'd be very interested in any suggestions about what I might be looking for!? My first pass thru the config I was looking for something that would allow this to happen and didn't see it. -- Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] list address in From: line post message to closed list
Dragon wrote: > Steve Lindemann sent the message below at 14:43 4/3/2008: >> Dragon wrote: >>> Steve Lindemann sent the message below at 12:18 4/3/2008: >>>> The problem - when the list email address is (spoofed) in the From: line >>>> (as well as being on the To: line) the message posts to the list. The >>>> ability to post to the list is supposed to be restricted to only list >>>> members. The list address is not in the list of list members. >>>> >>>> Is this normal? I checked the config and there did see anything to >>>> allow this behavior there. Is the list email address automatically >>>> considered to be a member of the list? I can always block it in >>>> "privacy options->sender filters", but should that even be necessary? >>>> Help! >>> End original message. - >>> This seemed rather strange to me too so I decided to test it on my >>> server. I have 2.1.10b3 installed from source on a Redhat machine. >>> My list is configured for posts from non-members to be discarded. >>> I sent a message to one of my lists using the list address in the >>> From: header. The message was discarded as I expected it would be >>> and I confirmed this by an entry in the vette log. >>> So it works on my installation as I expect it would. The question >>> now is, what is the difference between my source install and your >>> installation. Are you using a cPanel or Plesk version, or a version >>> installed from somebody else's package maybe through yum or something >>> similar? >>> Are you certain that the message was distributed via the list? >>> Is it in the list archive? >>> Can you match the message ID to one in the post log? >>> If you can see it in the archive and post log then it did get >>> processed through mailman. If not, perhaps it was BCC'ed to your >>> address or there is something else going on with your MTA. >>> Dragon >> I'm running version 2.1.9, installed from a tarball on a Dell server >> running CentOS 5. I administer from the command line and thru the >> web interface. It's a pretty basic install. > > Now when you say it's from a tarball, is it a binary install or did > you compile it (configure, make, make install, etc.)? > > Where did you obtain this version? > > If it isn't from one of the links on the page linked below, it may > have been altered in some way by somebody else to conform to some > distribution specific criteria. > > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman.html > > >> I went thru the logs and saw the message hit our email server >> (originally from 5850-260-1-62.dialup.samtel.ru), it gets passed to >> mailman and I see the post entry showing it's arrival into mailman >> then then smtp entry showing it's delivery back to the email >> server. I confirmed the delivery to the 144 recipients (fortunately >> this is a small list) in the mail log. I am one of the recipients >> on this list, but in my case spamassassin flagged the message and it >> gets filtered away. >> >> I just widened my search thru the mailman logs and noticed some >> other lists (in the vette log) holding messages for moderation with >> the list email in the From: line. So it does appear to be something >> in this specific list that's misconfigured. I'm off to poke around >> the config again but I'd be very interested in any suggestions about >> what I might be looking for!? My first pass thru the config I was >> looking for something that would allow this to happen and didn't see it. > > If this is a stock install from the mailman source, I've pretty much > exhausted my ideas. The only settings I know that should affect the > ability to deliver an e-mail are: > > accept_these_nonmembers > generic_nonmember_action > header_filter_rules > > I've looked through all the other options and don't see anything > there that would possibly allow something through. The only other > thing I can think of is that this mail might have been held and > accidentally accepted or it might have been sent with an Approved: > header with the list or site password. > > Dragon acquired the software with: wget http://openwebmail.org/openwebmail/download/release/openwebmail-2.52.tar.gz followed by many wget's of required perl modules and such and installed the lot. I recall rounds of configure,make,make test,make install for the perl module
Re: [Mailman-Users] list address in From: line post message to closed list
Steve Lindemann wrote: > Dragon wrote: >> Steve Lindemann sent the message below at 14:43 4/3/2008: >>> Dragon wrote: >>>> Steve Lindemann sent the message below at 12:18 4/3/2008: >>>>> The problem - when the list email address is (spoofed) in the From: line >>>>> (as well as being on the To: line) the message posts to the list. The >>>>> ability to post to the list is supposed to be restricted to only list >>>>> members. The list address is not in the list of list members. >>>>> >>>>> Is this normal? I checked the config and there did see anything to >>>>> allow this behavior there. Is the list email address automatically >>>>> considered to be a member of the list? I can always block it in >>>>> "privacy options->sender filters", but should that even be necessary? >>>>> Help! >>>> End original message. - >>>> This seemed rather strange to me too so I decided to test it on my >>>> server. I have 2.1.10b3 installed from source on a Redhat machine. >>>> My list is configured for posts from non-members to be discarded. >>>> I sent a message to one of my lists using the list address in the >>>> From: header. The message was discarded as I expected it would be >>>> and I confirmed this by an entry in the vette log. >>>> So it works on my installation as I expect it would. The question >>>> now is, what is the difference between my source install and your >>>> installation. Are you using a cPanel or Plesk version, or a version >>>> installed from somebody else's package maybe through yum or something >>>> similar? >>>> Are you certain that the message was distributed via the list? >>>> Is it in the list archive? >>>> Can you match the message ID to one in the post log? >>>> If you can see it in the archive and post log then it did get >>>> processed through mailman. If not, perhaps it was BCC'ed to your >>>> address or there is something else going on with your MTA. >>>> Dragon >>> I'm running version 2.1.9, installed from a tarball on a Dell server >>> running CentOS 5. I administer from the command line and thru the >>> web interface. It's a pretty basic install. >> Now when you say it's from a tarball, is it a binary install or did >> you compile it (configure, make, make install, etc.)? >> >> Where did you obtain this version? >> >> If it isn't from one of the links on the page linked below, it may >> have been altered in some way by somebody else to conform to some >> distribution specific criteria. >> >> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman.html >> >> >>> I went thru the logs and saw the message hit our email server >>> (originally from 5850-260-1-62.dialup.samtel.ru), it gets passed to >>> mailman and I see the post entry showing it's arrival into mailman >>> then then smtp entry showing it's delivery back to the email >>> server. I confirmed the delivery to the 144 recipients (fortunately >>> this is a small list) in the mail log. I am one of the recipients >>> on this list, but in my case spamassassin flagged the message and it >>> gets filtered away. >>> >>> I just widened my search thru the mailman logs and noticed some >>> other lists (in the vette log) holding messages for moderation with >>> the list email in the From: line. So it does appear to be something >>> in this specific list that's misconfigured. I'm off to poke around >>> the config again but I'd be very interested in any suggestions about >>> what I might be looking for!? My first pass thru the config I was >>> looking for something that would allow this to happen and didn't see it. >> If this is a stock install from the mailman source, I've pretty much >> exhausted my ideas. The only settings I know that should affect the >> ability to deliver an e-mail are: >> >> accept_these_nonmembers >> generic_nonmember_action >> header_filter_rules >> >> I've looked through all the other options and don't see anything >> there that would possibly allow something through. The only other >> thing I can think of is that this mail might have been held and >> accidentally accepted or it might have been sent with an Approved: >> header with the list or site
[Mailman-Users] non-subscriber managed to post to a subscriber only list
Had something strange occur early Saturday morning. A non-subscriber managed to successfully post to two member only lists (and, of course, it was spam). The bogus sender (thelevisstoreonl...@levis.rsys1.com) is not a member of these member only lists and is not in the accept_these_nonmembers filter. Other non-member posts are being caught and sent to moderation. Is there something else that I should be looking at? I checked the logs and the sender sent to 5 of our hosted lists. They were caught (per the vette log) by 3 of those lists as a non-member, but posted successfully to the other 2 lists (per smtp and post logs). I've checked the docs and faqs and haven't found a reference for something like this. I've checked all the logs and the configs (via the web interface) on the two lists that posted allowed the post. I can't find any reason for it and have to wonder if I'm checking everything. I've looked thru everything that makes sense and much that doesn't. If I had hair I'd be pulling it out! -- Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\// against HTML/RTF email, http://www.marmot.org //\\ vCards & M$ attachments +1.970.242.3331 x116 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] non-subscriber managed to post to a subscriber only list
Lindsay Haisley wrote: Is it possible that the list mod or admin password got out? I believe than anyone can post to a moderated list by putting an "Approved: " header or pseudo-header in a post. I'm on one of the lists that accepted the message (which is how it came to my attention) and I just rechecked the message header and didn't see anything resembling that... would mailman remove it from the header for final delivery to the list members? Regardless, I'll see to getting passwords changed, thanks. -- Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\// against HTML/RTF email, http://www.marmot.org //\\ vCards & M$ attachments +1.970.242.3331 x116 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] non-subscriber managed to post to a subscriber only list
Mark Sapiro wrote: All the headers of the spam post. In a default installation, if any of From:, Reply-To: or Sender: headers or the envelope sender as reflected in the Unix From or Return-Path: header contains a member address, the post will be deemed from that member. Find the spam posts in archives/private/LISTNAME.mbox/LISTNAME.mbox. The headers there should reflect the original except maybe for Reply-To: if the list mungs that. If that isn't the answer, then it is possible that, as Lindsay suggests, the post contained an Approved: header with the list admin or moderator password. Rechecked the delivered message header and found the list bounces address in the Sender: and Return-Path: headers, but I thought that was normal on the delivered message. Checked the archives and found the note "An HTML attachment was scrubbed..." and a link to the html portion of the message. The rest of the message (including the header) appears to be missing from the archive. I didn't think the -bounces address was considered a member of the list... is it? -- Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\// against HTML/RTF email, http://www.marmot.org //\\ vCards & M$ attachments +1.970.242.3331 x116 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] non-subscriber managed to post to a subscriberonly list
Mark Sapiro wrote: Steve Lindemann wrote: Lindsay Haisley wrote: Is it possible that the list mod or admin password got out? I believe than anyone can post to a moderated list by putting an "Approved: " header or pseudo-header in a post. >> I'm on one of the lists that accepted the message (which is how it came to my attention) and I just rechecked the message header and didn't see anything resembling that... would mailman remove it from the header for final delivery to the list members? Regardless, I'll see to getting passwords changed, thanks. Yes, any Approve: or Approved: header will be removed from the post whether or not the password is valid. duh... I should have known, that only makes sense. Sounds like the Approve: or Approved header is a likely candidate. Getting those passwords fixed now. Thanks. -- Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\// against HTML/RTF email, http://www.marmot.org //\\ vCards & M$ attachments +1.970.242.3331 x116 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] non-subscriber managed to post to a subscriberonly list
Mark Sapiro wrote:
Right. That's why you have to look at the raw archive mbox file (not
the html archive or the periodic .txt or .txt.gz file). That's the
only place that will have the original envelope sender in the "From "
separator and the original Sender:.
Thanks! Got it! They spoofed a legitimate list member on the
Return-Path:, which also showed up on the first ("From ") message header
line. The From:, Reply-To: reflected the purported spammer and there
was no Sender: in the raw mbox file. The good news is that there was no
Approved: or Approve: but we're changing passwords anyway.
I don't suppose there's anything we can do about this other than change
that particular user's email address... is there?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] non-subscriber managed to post to a subscriber only list (SOLVED)
Lindsay Haisley wrote:
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 15:26 -0700, Steve Lindemann wrote:
Thanks! Got it! They spoofed a legitimate list member on the
Return-Path:, which also showed up on the first ("From ") message header
line.
Both of these reflect the envelope sender address used in the SMTP
dialog with the mail server.
I don't suppose there's anything we can do about this other than change
that particular user's email address... is there?
You can restrict the set of headers used to identify subscribers using
the SENDER_HEADERS variable in mm_cfg.py, as Mark indicated. By default
(in Defaults.py) this is:
SENDER_HEADERS = ('from', None, 'reply-to', 'sender')
You can eliminate the envelope sender address from the mix by setting
this simply to:
SENDER_HEADERS = ('from', 'reply-to')
or drop 'reply-to' if you want to be even more restrictive.
Thanks... I like that solution much more better 8^)
...too many messages going by too quickly. I skimmed Mark's message but
since he was answering Grant's question I didn't read it as closely as I
should have I'm going back now to read thru the thread more slowly.
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[Mailman-Users] can I resend new list creation welcome message?
I've had several occasions where list admins have "lost" the initial welcome message they received when I created a new list for them. Is there a way to resend that new list created message? I've reviewed the docs and searched the archives (and google) and if it's there I missed it. Thanks! -- Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\// against HTML/RTF email, http://www.marmot.org //\\ vCards & M$ attachments +1.970.242.3331 x116 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] can I resend new list creation welcome message?
Mark Sapiro wrote: Steve Lindemann wrote: I've had several occasions where list admins have "lost" the initial welcome message they received when I created a new list for them. Is there a way to resend that new list created message? Mailman can't resend the list created email with the password. You can recreate the mail or even make a script to do it from the newlist.txt template, but you can't get the password because it's encrypted. Thank you Mark! I don't really need the password in the message (nice to have, but not needed). I can always deal with that separately if I have to. Since most of the lists on my server only have one admin the other limitation shouldn't be an issue and I can always change which email address is listed first for the admin. This will also be handy when the admin role for a list changes hands. -- Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\// against HTML/RTF email, http://www.marmot.org //\\ vCards & M$ attachments +1.970.242.3331 x116 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] old files in the shunt queue directory
Courtesy of this list I latched onto the Mailman daily status report script. Consequently I'm now aware of something I wasn't before... I have 85 files in the shunt queue directory, most dated from 2 thru 4 May and a pair dated 25 Aug. They are all data files, so I can't simply 'more' thru them for content. The few I checked with 'strings' (and the old dates) lead me to believe they can all be trashed. ~ QUESTION: Is it safe to simply delete files from ../mailman/qfiles/shunt? ~ I have tried to find out for myself about what shunt is and what I can do with the directory, but there isn't much info available. All I could find was to run ../bin/unshunt to handle the files. But I don't want them handled, I want them gone. Help! -- Steve Lindemann Network Administrator Marmot Library Network, Inc. url: http://www.marmot.org email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: +1.970.242.3331 ext 16 fax: +1.970.245.7854 /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X against HTML email, vCards / \ & micro$oft attachments -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] easy question on python regular expressions
On the *Privacy options->Sender filters* admin page there is a non-member filter to *accept_these_nonmembers*. I would like to use a regular expression to accept all email from a particular domain. ex: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently I don't understand python regular expressions very well. Everything I try simply gets ignored when I submit the page. Can someone out there *show* me what I need to use to accomplish the task. Thanks! -- Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\// against HTML/RTF email, url: http://www.marmot.org //\\ vCards & M$ attachments email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: +1.970.242.3331 ext 16 fax: +1.970.245.7854 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] easy question on python regular expressions
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Steve Lindemann wrote: > >> I would like to use a regular >> expression to accept all email from a particular domain. >> >> ex: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Can someone >> out there *show* me what I need to use to accomplish the task. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Thank you Mark! Given the examples I could find and all the variations I tried I completely missed the trailing $ sign... *sigh* -- Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\// against HTML/RTF email, url: http://www.marmot.org //\\ vCards & M$ attachments email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: +1.970.242.3331 ext 16 fax: +1.970.245.7854 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests
On 4/9/2015 1:25 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote: The solutions is quite simple - use top-posting if you answering to the very whole message or thread (like this). It will save your time and would annoy nobody. (Don't forget to put And your premise is wrong already. Top posting on an email list is highly annoying to anyone that prefers to read context in order instead of upside down. I, and MANY like me, read left to right and TOP TO BOTTOM... it's just one example of plain, old fashion, good email etiquette. I realize there are those that don't read that way but they aren't posting to an email list using the English language either. -- Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
