Re: [Mailman-Users] Apache, mailman and ScriptAlias - not as documented

2008-06-25 Thread Terry Allen


On 25/06/2008, at 4:52 PM, Vidiot wrote:

I've looked at the installation page over at the Wiki and there is  
nothing

regarding the problem I've run up against.

See page 6 of the Installation Manual (pdf).

It states the following should be added:

ScriptAlias /mailman/ $prefix/cgi-bin/

I already have ScriptAlias defined:

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/home/httpd/cgi-bin/"

One is not allowed to have multiple ScriptAlias lines.  It almost  
appears
that the instructions assume that no other ScriptAliases exist.  Not  
likely.


The instructions have no workaround if Apache already has cgi-bin  
defined.


Is there a workaround?

Thanks for any pointers?


Hi again.

Actually, you are allowed to have multiple ScriptAlias lines within  
your httpd.conf (or any of your vhost.conf files if you have  
multiples. So long as they only point to a specific directory &  
separate path you'll be fine. One of the servers I manage has maybe 14  
different aliases running - I am sure there will be others who have  
many more.


What the part of the manual you are referring to is saying is that  
when someone calls /mailman, Apache knows that scripts within that  
path are to be executed instead of being served straight up. It's an  
addition to your existing cgi-bin rather than a replacement. Hope that  
rather simplistic explanation serves to help you understand it a  
little better.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman not working

2008-05-08 Thread Terry Allen
My mailman program just quit working - the mail is sent back 
undeliverable after over a year of working just fine




Anyone else have this issue.



I did nothing different and none of my lists work



Hi again,
	Stab on the dark here, but I would say that your mailman 
daemon or queue runner has unexpectedly crashed & not picking up mail 
or a corruption issue in your mailman lists is causing the issue - 
your mail server log should provide at least some idea, as should the 
bounce message.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing base URL for HTML GUI

2008-01-27 Thread Terry Allen
>Terry Allen wrote:
>
>>  In the administration & general GUI HTML pages, if I go to
>>the URL & enter the password, it will then redirect me to a different
>>URL that starts with the hostname of the server - for example:
>>
>>http://domain.com/mailman/admin/listname (then I log in to the
>>Mailman admin interface)
>>
>>Click a link such as General Options which will redirect to:
>>
>>http://hostname.domain.com/mailman/listname/general (also prompting
>>me to relogin with password details)
>>
>>  I wonder if someone could direct me as to where to correct
>>this so it doesn't redirect to the server's hostname - all other
>>lists on the server work fine. I am guessing this will be somewhere
>>within the config for the list but I don't want to be playing around
>>& ruin something. Many thanks for any assistance.
>
>
>The http://hostname.domain.com/mailman/ part of that comes from a
>hidden list attribute named web_page_url. To change this, you can run
>
>   bin/withlist -l -r fix_url listname -u domain.com
>
>See
><http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?query=web_page_url&querytype=simple&casefold=yes&req=search>
>for more details.

Hi again,
Outstanding - many thanks Mark, worked a treat. A shame with 
the years of list archives I would have to go back & do a huge batch 
edit to remove the hostname from the archives, but they can stay that 
way, too much work. The URL will be correct now anyhow.

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[Mailman-Users] Changing base URL for HTML GUI

2008-01-27 Thread Terry Allen
Hi again,
Just a quick question in this one. I've been running Mailman 
for a long time (2.1.5 patched to 2.1.6 from memory) on one of my 
servers.
In the administration & general GUI HTML pages, if I go to 
the URL & enter the password, it will then redirect me to a different 
URL that starts with the hostname of the server - for example:

http://domain.com/mailman/admin/listname (then I log in to the 
Mailman admin interface)

Click a link such as General Options which will redirect to:

http://hostname.domain.com/mailman/listname/general (also prompting 
me to relogin with password details)

I wonder if someone could direct me as to where to correct 
this so it doesn't redirect to the server's hostname - all other 
lists on the server work fine. I am guessing this will be somewhere 
within the config for the list but I don't want to be playing around 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Terry Allen
>Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>>Pierre Igot wrote:
>>
>>>On 06-12-13, at 19:31, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Pierre Igot wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The
>>>>>  version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9.
>>>>>  (It's 2.1.2.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  See
>>>>  <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.021.htp>
>>>
>>>I am aware of this page and checked it before sending my request for
>>>help. The page didn't provide any information that addressed my
>>>issue, as far as I could tell.
>>
>>
>>The relevant part of that FAQ is the part that says
>>
>>   All other support issues relating to using the Apple-provided versions
>>   of Mailman under MacOS X should be first directed to Apple, since they
>>   are the ones that modified the Mailman installation to suit their
>>   environment and they have not shared their changes with us.
>>
>>There are other FAQ articles
>
>
>Sorry, I sent that before I finished it. I meant to say
>
>There are other FAQ articles such as
><http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.014.htp>
>that may have been helpful, but we don't know if they are applicable
>to the Mac OS-X Server Mailman or not because it is a modified version
>of our package, and we don't know what the mods are.
Hi again,
I sent some docs through to Barry Warsaw a long time back, 
but some oif the info contained in it are here:

http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node50.html

I'm not sure just how much this may help the original poster or not.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is awesome but.....

2006-10-30 Thread Terry Allen
>Ok our one of our resident tech guys that was a Linux guru set up a Linux
>box with Mailman on it.  It was great.  He left so I decided to try and set
>everything up myself.  I am not a total newb, as I run a Windows Box with
>Apache and a few other server aps.  Well at least I didn’t think I was a
>newb.  I went through about a ½ dozen different Linux distro’s trying to
>find one I was comfortable with and after about 40hrs of installing and
>dumping I have given up trying to do it on Linux.  I have read a bunch of
>FAQ’s on running Mailman on Windows and unless I am mistaken it’s a real
>pain.
>
>
>
>So what I am looking for is either any easy straight forward way of
>installing Mailman on an NT box running Apache or a good alternative to the
>much loved and great Mailman software.  I don’t even NEED all the
>functionality of mailman.  I need a mailing list server that will handle 100
>members.  I can sign them up manually.  It has to receive mail and forward
>it back out to the group. 
>
>
>
>Any help in either direction would be appreciated.
>
Hi again,
Seriously, pick any Linux distribution - 
Ubuntu may be a good bet for you as the user 
community is quite good for support.
Personally, I run Mailman on OSX - it 
took some time for me to get it working, but it 
was actually quite easy once I figured out the 
terminology. I used the Postfix MTA that I 
already ran for Mailman & found it easy enough to 
get it going using that.
I wrote a guide for setting up Mailman on 
OSX, part of which is contained here:
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node50.html
    Hope this helps you somewhat.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] GNU Mailman

2006-06-12 Thread Terry Allen
>Hi ALL
>
>I am a newbie to install GNU Mailman, I have downloaded mailman-2.1.8.tgz
>Just wanted to know the step by step guide to install Mailman
>
>Thank You
>
>Regards
>
Hi again,
The instructions are included in the document named Intsall 
within the archive you downloaded, but there are numerous guides 
available online - do a search for something like 'Step By Step 
installation Mailman'
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Re: [Mailman-Users] error install MM on MAC OS x

2006-04-29 Thread Terry Allen
Hi again,
I found time to look for the minimal guide I had done:

http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node50.html

Look down towards the bottom of that page & you should be 
able to see it's steps - the steps should also apply to OSX 10.4.x
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Re: [Mailman-Users] error install MM on MAC OS x

2006-04-29 Thread Terry Allen
>Celes,
>
>May I suggest that you get hold of
>Mac OS X Server and install that on you server instead. It comes
>with Mailman already installed and ready to go. It has a lot of other
>tools pre-installed that will be very useful to you. The Mac is
>a great platform for servers.
>
>That all said, you'll likely at some point need to install the
>Developer Tools anyway.
>
>Allan
Hi again,
Mailman installs & works fine on OSX 'client'. Somewhere 
there is aguide I wrote to install it - just can't rememebr where 
right now - I think it is linked off the Mailman site somewhere. If 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Just getting started....

2005-09-03 Thread Terry Allen
>I could use a little help here..so anything would be appreciated.
>
>
>
>The ISP for a client I am doing some web work for told me they use Mailman.
>I downloaded the install file locally onto my machine.  When I go to the
>clients' "lists" admin site (as told to by the ISP Help Desk), it states
>there are no email lists created - this stands to reason as no one has ever
>created a list for this user yet.
>
>
>
>After I downloaded the install files for mailman locally, I am unsure what
>to do next - do I upload all the files from the local folder to the website
>and start that way or do I create the lists from the files on my local
>machine?  Also, I've been reading many of the install info..and it appears I
>have to create a local group and user for customizing the lists, etc...is
>this true?
>
>
>
>Finally, I see people are referring to the "web interface" to create the
>email lists - what file under which folder do you launch to do this, and do
>you do this locally or after you upload the files to the website?
>
>
>
>Obviously, I'm a little confused so a little help would be greatly
>appreciated - even a point in the right direction would be appreciated..as a
>step by step guide I find the guide provided by the makers a
>little..lacking.  Maybe I'm reading the wrong document though.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>
>Tim
>

Hi again,
I'm not overly clear on what you want here - are you saying 
that the client has their hosting already running Mailman? If this is 
the case, then there is no need for you to do anything on your local 
machine.
The typical web interface is something along the lines of:

http://www.domain.com/mailman/admin

    The ISP should be able to provide you with login details for 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Insert character to footer

2005-06-12 Thread Terry Allen
>>  I wish to insert an ampersand (&) into the footer, but >>when I
>>  use plain &, it generates & into the footer. Should I >>enclose it
>>  in some way?

>1.  Create a plain text file in /bin named "footer".  Make >your footer there
>like this:

>msg_footer="""__
>Insert the text you want here & make it real nice.
>%(real_name)s mailing list
>%real_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s
>%web_page_url)slistinfo%cgiext)s/%_internal_name)s
>"""

>2.  Then run /bin/config_list -i foot listname

>That should do it.  But if you change the footer via the >web interface, you
>will screw it up.  Change the /bin/footer file instead.

>This technique will allow you to use double quotes and >other problematic
>characters.  - John

Hi again,
Thanks for the feedback. I did change the footer using the 
web interface, but it didn't screw up anything except add the & 
into the footer.
Out of interest, if I use the method you describe above, does 
it alter any other lists, or only the one you apply to the list you 
issue the command on?
I guess the other minor question I have is - what if I then 
wish to apply other footers to other lists?
Should your command actually read:

/bin/config_list -i footer listname

instead of :

/bin/config_list -i foot listname

I'm only guessing that the command needs the name of the file 
- in which case I'd name the file 'listname_footer' or something 
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[Mailman-Users] Insert character to footer

2005-06-11 Thread Terry Allen
Hi all,
I'm not really having any problems as such with Mailman 
currently, but I do have a minor question that some searching has not 
revealed an easy answer to.
I wish to insert an ampersand (&) into the footer, but when I 
use plain &, it generates & into the footer. Should I enclose it 
in some way?
Also, I am running 2.1.5 with the security update. Could 
someone please outline the easiest way to update to 2.1.6?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-05-02 Thread Terry Allen
>Hi there! I was hoping to get some help from another user who may have
>run into this problem. I can't find anything about it in the FAQ's. I am
>trying to post to my mailing list but I receive the following:
>
>You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
>been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
>being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>I have been posting right along, but someone did re-configure my Outlook
>email recently. I'm not sure if that contributes to the problem. Anyhow,
>I can't find the option that tells me where I can change WHO can post to
>the list. I had it set up so no-one could send to the list but me -
>since it was a notification and reminder service and not a moderated
>list. I have dug through all those configuration pages and I'll be
>darned if I can find anything besides the owner and moderator areas. I
>have my email address in both of those - but still get the message above
>emailed to me after trying to post.
>
>Here's a link to my archives:
>http://mail.oceanstatepmi.org/mailman/private/members_oceanstatepmi.org/
>
>The version I'm using is: 2.1.5
>Help?!
>
Hi again,
The link to edit mailman list subscribers is:

http://yourserver.com/mailman/admin/yourlistname/members

Of course, substitute the servername & listname for whatever 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] urgent help needed

2005-05-02 Thread Terry Allen
>Dear Mailman,
>
>I am the administrator of a new list using Mailman, to a non profit coalision
>of environmental organizations arrond the world.
>
>This is a great software. We are really happy with it.  But during the tests,
>I was crating some messages. Now everybody can see the tests messages in the
>archives. I have looked for some meny about how to delete the archive, but no
>way. This is all I found, trying to not to bother you with this.
>
>remove $prefix/archives/private/listname
>  edit $prefix/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox [optional]
>  run $prefix/bin/arch listname
>
>but I do not know what is means at all... :)   where to put this commands? :)
>
>My job can be in risk because of this mistake...
>I really need your help
>Thanks so much,
>
Hi again,
Take a look at this FAQ entry:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=edit&file=faq03.003.htp
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Re: [Mailman-Users] OSX config.pck.last problem possible resolution

2005-04-21 Thread Terry Allen
On 4/21/05 4:47 PM, Terry Allen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As some would know, there seems to be an issue with Mailman
 on OSX, where some systems will periodically see the cronjob sending
 an error out to root via email in relation to the file
 config.pck.last not being able to be re-written or whatever.
 I have had this twice now, both times a couple of days after
 a System Update has been applied. On both occasions, I have run
 check_perms & the errors have disappeared. My guess here is that the
 system update (the latest being 10.3.9) seems to have changed
 something critical to Mailman in terms of permissions.
 So, if anyone else is experiencing this problem, I would
 suggest trying to run check_perms & see if the problems disappear.
Interesting. I updated to 10.3.9 last night and have had no problems.
Checking in my mailman directory, I see config.pck and config.pck.last files
that all have update times since the OS update.
I have not run Mac OS X's "repair disk permissions" since the update. I know
many people recommend doing so both before and after applying any OS update
but I've found doing so actually causes me problems - it changes the
permissions on /var/mail to something pine does not like.
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Hi again,
	Yes, I agree. It doesn't happen straight away - I had 3 days 
of runtime after the update before that problem showed up again. I 
have no answer & it does not seem to happen on every OSX installation 
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[Mailman-Users] OSX config.pck.last problem possible resolution

2005-04-21 Thread Terry Allen
Hi again,
	As some would know, there seems to be an issue with Mailman 
on OSX, where some systems will periodically see the cronjob sending 
an error out to root via email in relation to the file 
config.pck.last not being able to be re-written or whatever.
	I have had this twice now, both times a couple of days after 
a System Update has been applied. On both occasions, I have run 
check_perms & the errors have disappeared. My guess here is that the 
system update (the latest being 10.3.9) seems to have changed 
something critical to Mailman in terms of permissions.
	So, if anyone else is experiencing this problem, I would 
suggest trying to run check_perms & see if the problems disappear. 
Hope this helps.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help with mailman on bluehost.com

2005-03-29 Thread Terry Allen
Our webhosting software, www.bluehost.com <http://www.bluehost.com/>  offers
us mailman.  I want to create multiple mailing lists as a way to send out a
daily e-newsletter publication to some different subscriber lists.
However, I am finding it very confusing to use.  Do you have a support
Telephone # that I can call to walk me through it?
Please let me know at your earliest convenience.
Thanks,
Samantha Wiratunga
Hi again,
	I guess, probably the first thing is - can you explain what 
problems you are having in being confused.
	I personally find the Mailman web interface very intuitive. 
Surely bluehost.com are not providinh a command line interface are 
they? If you are using the web interface, then it's a matter of going 
to http://yourdomain.com/mailman/create & create your list using the 
options. Hope this helps.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-25 Thread Terry Allen
I am trying to move my heretofore working mailman installation from 
one server (FreeBSD/Sendmail) to another (RedHat/Exim). I can access 
my lists at my main url, but I get "Page not found" on the domains I 
host. The error  log says "premature end of script headers". None 
of the lists have colliding names. Mailman is critical to my 
clients. I have been through the faq, the archives and the 
documentation. I've tried everything I could find that seemed 
applicable. help! Moving servers is bad enough without this crap!

Lynn
Hi again,
	If the error is 'premature end of script headers', I would 
hazard a guess that the CGI is not being interpreted by the server 
correctly for Mailman, or it is being interpreted as a binary file 
rather than a text file for execution.
	I'd have a look at the mailman installation on the new server 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread Terry Allen
	I suspect that Mailman 2.x to 3.x will not be that rough.  Yes, the
Hi again,
	Just out of interest, on Postfix, there is a simple option to 
upgrade a running system like so (as most here will know):

make
stop postfix
make upgrade
start postfix
	I have never had to upgrade Mailman, as I started out using 
it on 2.1.5 - is the upgrade procedure for Mailman anything like 
Postfix? It's been foolproof thus far for me, so I'm hoping it works 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Security update for 2.1.5

2005-03-22 Thread Terry Allen
At 8:09 PM +1100 2005-03-22, Terry Allen wrote:
I tried applying the security patch for 2.1.5 which is listed on the
 website - but got a number of errors - can anyone outline the procedure
 for implementing the patch please, whether it's by running the patch
 or replacing lines of code within certain files - any assistance would
 be appreciated.
	You need to use the program "patch" to apply the patch as 
provided.  Note that Python is sensitive to indentation and the use 
of tab characters versus spaces, so you can't just cut-n-paste what 
you see.  You either need to make sure that the indentation 
perfectly matches what is present in the files being modified, or 
you need to use the program "patch" to do that for you.

	If you have stored the security patch in a file called 
"patchfile", and you have placed that file in the appropriate 
directory, it should be as simple as this:

# patch < patchfile
	And the program should be able to figure out the rest by 
reading the patchfile and applying that to the code in the 
appropriate places.

For information, the system I am trying to update is OSX 10.3.8 with
 Mailman 2.1.5 & the developers tools installed. Many thanks.
	At the command-line prompt, do "man patch" to see how this 
program works.
Hi again,
	Thanks Brad - I should have outlined that I had already tried 
running patch on that .txt file - here's the problem I am getting:

[server:mailman/mailman/cgi] root# patch < CAN-2005-0202.txt
patching file private.py
Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] n
Apply anyway? [n] y
Hunk #1 FAILED at 1.
1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file private.py.rej
[server:mailman/mailman/cgi] root#
	The output into the .rej file has only the comments at the 
start of private.py - I ran the patch 3 times but on the second time 
I answered Y on the reverse apply question, then the 3rd time, it ran 
without error. does this indicate to you that I have already applied 
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[Mailman-Users] Security update for 2.1.5

2005-03-22 Thread Terry Allen
Hi again,
	I tried applying the security patch for 2.1.5 which is listed 
on the website - but got a number of errors - can anyone outline the 
procedure for implementing the patch please, whether it's by running 
the patch or replacing lines of code within certain files - any 
assistance would be appreciated.
	For information, the system I am trying to update is OSX 
10.3.8 with Mailman 2.1.5 & the developers tools installed. Many 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman bug

2005-02-27 Thread Terry Allen
Mark Ballard wrote:
Mailman has been working fine for a couple of week now and it just
stopped with a bug.
Below is what it tells me when I go to admindb on any list.
any ideas???
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.2

   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 487, in __save
 os.unlink(fname_last)
OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument:
'/private/var/mailman/lists/bulletin/config.pck.last'
This problem seems to occur with varying frequency in Mac OSX. See
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amail.python.org+%22errno+22%22+config.pck.last
The immediate solution is to manually remove the offending
config.pck.last file - one person reported he had to rename it with
"mv" before he could remove it.
No one seems to know what the underlying cause or permanent solution is.
Hi again,
	I haven't deleted the file mentioned in my last post - I ran 
check_perms again following my last post & I'm going to wait & see 
what happens over the next week or so. Brad Knowles emailed me asking 
about if I'd upgraded from OSX 10.3.7 to 10.3.8 - to which the answer 
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman error was emailed to user mailman

2005-02-26 Thread Terry Allen
Terry Allen wrote:
I was looking into this error & tried this command - when I
tried check_db it gave no errors - I then added --all which still
gave no errors - however, I then added --verbose, which gave the
following output - is this necessarily a problem & should I worry?
[server:local/mailman/bin] root# ./check_db --all --verbose
List: mailman
/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck: okay
/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck.last: okay
 [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.db'
 [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.db.last'

No. this is not a problem. bin/check_db tries to check all 4 files
whether or not they exist. Mailman 2.1.x does not have the config.db
files. They were used instead of the config.pck files in older
versions.
It is unlikely that bin/check_db would find a problem with the
config.pck.last in your situation. This problem is not corruption of
the file contents. It is some issue with the OSX file system that
prevents the config.pck.last file from being removed.
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	Many thanks Mark - I will see if it can be removed. I run on 
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman error was emailed to user mailman

2005-02-25 Thread Terry Allen
Hi again,
	I was looking into this error & tried this command - when I 
tried check_db it gave no errors - I then added --all which still 
gave no errors - however, I then added --verbose, which gave the 
following output - is this necessarily a problem & should I worry?

[server:local/mailman/bin] root# ./check_db --all --verbose
List: mailman
   /usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck: okay
   /usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck.last: okay
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.db'
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.db.last'
List: serverfriends
   /usr/local/mailman/lists/testlist/config.pck: okay
   /usr/local/mailman/lists/testlist/config.pck.last: okay
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/testlist/config.db'
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/testlist/config.db.last'
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman error was emailed to user mailman

2005-02-25 Thread Terry Allen
--On February 25, 2005 9:02:09 AM -0800 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I can only guess, but the underlying issue seems to be with OSX itself.
Possibly you could get a clue from Apple support forums.
To which I reply:
Any chance that you ran "Repair Permissions" somewhere in there? 
And that that screwed things up?

Hi again,
	No, I have not done a repair permissions for quite some time, 
owing to it having a habit of screwing up certain permissions I have 
set.
	I guess the other question I would then ask, is it okay to delete:

/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck.last
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman error was emailed to user mailman

2005-02-25 Thread Terry Allen
   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 497, >in __save
 os.unlink(fname_last)
OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument:
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck.last'
This error is occurring when Mailman is trying the save the current
configuration for the mailman list. It has saved it to a temp name and
now is trying to rotate the files - i.e. remove config.pck.last, and
rename config.pck to config.pck.last and the temp name to config.pck,
but its attempt to unlink config.pck.last results in the above.
See
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-January/041634.html
and the reply at
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-January/041646.html
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	Thanks Mark, that was pretty much what I thought. I am 
running OSX 'client' 10.3.8, so it's a stock source installation of 
Mailman 2.1.5 on Postfix, not anything Apple has modified. Have you 
any suggestions as to how to prevent this happening in the future. 
It's the first error Mailman has generated since it was installed 
some months ago.

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[Mailman-Users] RE: Mailman error was emailed to user mailman

2005-02-24 Thread Terry Allen
Hi again,
	Additionally, I should add in addition to my last email that 
Mailman is otherwise working fine, including sending out list 
messages as well as the web interface.
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman error was emailed to user mailman

2005-02-24 Thread Terry Allen
Hi again,
Just wondered if someone can look at the following for me.
Mailman sent the following traceback:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 94, in ?
main()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 87, in main
mlist.Save()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 525, in Save
self.__save(dict)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 497, in __save
os.unlink(fname_last)
OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument: 
'/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck.last'

	It was emailed to the mailman user on the server. It seems to 
be something to do with the digest sending, but other than than, I 
can't see anything.
	I get a similar sort of message (though nothing to do with 
digests) when I go to either the admin or listinfo page in the web 
interface. Should the web interface work for the actual mailman 
master list or is it limited to running from a command line?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / OS X server

2005-02-22 Thread Terry Allen
Hi all,
Does anyone happen to know if there's what amounts to an Idiot's Guide to
getting mailman running on the OS X server? I understand from reading this
list that Apple modified mailman, so I assume even when I see similar
problems here the solutions might be different.
I'm an old techie, but tech work isn't my primary job anymore. I'm just
trying to get a small web server and mail list software running for my
academic dept. I haven't been able to find an OS X server equivalent of this
list and . . . well . . . I just can't get the mail lists to work.
TIA,
Tery
Hi again,
	I wrote an 'idiots' guide following my installation on OSX - 
I did forward it to Barry Warsaw to see if it could be housed 
somewhere on the Mailman site, but he instead asked for a 
modification which will apparently be included in edited form within 
the Mailman docs.
	I still have unedited version specifically for OSX (it was 
the 'client' version but that shouldn't make much difference), if 
you'd like it.
	I think it would be a great idea to have some of these types 
of guides available on the Mailman site in a specific area called 
'walkthrough' or something similar, once they've been checked by 
someone knowledgeable. At least they'd be in a central location. At 
the moment it's very hit & miss to find something specific for your 
own platform.
	Thoughts on the Mailman site section would be interesting if 
you would like to post to this list - I think this is a good idea.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] It seems Postfix is not the problem...

2005-01-09 Thread Terry Allen
After checking and re-checking, it seems I was 
wrong in thinking Postfix might be the problem. 
Somehow, I think I've broken Mailman to some 
extend. Let me elaborate: I was testing mailman 
by sending messages to the list owner. Nothing, 
the list owner didn't recieve them, and the 
sendmail queue was empty. I send a test message 
to the list. Nothing, the sendmail queue was 
still empty. Not knowing what else to do, I 
reboot the Linux server and try to start 
mailmanctl. It gives me the "stale pid" error so 
I start it with mailmanctl -s. So far, so good, 
I think. But still no message recieved. I check 
the logs, and nothing gives me a clue. Then I 
find this directory: /usr/local/mailmal/locks. 
When I do a ls, it gives me lots of .lock files 
with the name of my list. Deciding I had nothing 
to lose, I delete them all. Voilá, the list 
owner starts receiving mail I send 3 days ago 
and the sendmail queue starts to fill with the 
test message I send sever or eight hours ago! 
Tomorrow I'll send another test message (I'll 
wait for this to finish sending), but what I'd 
like to know, if someone actually has a clue, is 
what just did happen, or is happening, and more 
importantly, will it happen again? I think it 
has something to do with stale locks, but I 
can't be sure. So, if someone has an idea, 
please tell me.

Hi again,
	In looking, I think you are correct - a 
lockfile problem. Hopefully this won't happen 
again. Maybe a full system reboot might be in 
order to clear all the processes.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list emails just disappear to nowhere

2005-01-08 Thread Terry Allen
Hello all and sorry for the bother :)
A little background to my problem:
I had a main hard disk problem with my web/list server and though I
had some backups I decided to install a fresh (and newer)
installation of Linux. Now everything else is working fine except
Mailman(and/or postfix).
It knows the lists I had built earlier fine, but sending mail to the
lists doesn't work.
After trying to handle the problem myself, I got until so far:
In /var/log/mail I have a lines for the mail:
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/cleanup[4820]: 2534CE585: message-
id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/smtpd[4802]: disconnect from
unknown[10.0.1.21]
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/qmgr[4799]: 2534CE585:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=699, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/local[4822]: 2534CE585: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
toolbox.net>, orig_to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local,
delay=0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post hn-l)
Jan  7 14:07:44 rbm postfix/qmgr[4799]: 2534CE585: removed
So it would look quite all right . except that the mail doesn't
appear anywhere. I am quite frustrated so far... any relief
available?
Otherwise postfix seems to work all right
Hi again,
	Someone else may correct me here, but that last line of the 
log looks to me like Postfix has delivered the mail to the piped 
mailman command - if the mail is not showing up from there, it would 
indicate that either:

a: Mailman is broken
or
b: Mailman is configured incorrectly.
	Our Mailman installation has a separate aliases file for 
Mailman, which I think is the normal Mailman setup when used with 
Postfix. Maybe post something to the Mailman list for assistance from 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting started

2005-01-05 Thread Terry Allen
Hello,
I used to have a list with mailman, but someone else set it up for me. When
I changed servers I no longer used mailman. I would like to get another list
set up through mailman again, since my current server is limiting my list
options. Please let me know how to get started with a new list using
mailman.
Thank you,
Brenda
Hi again,
	It's really going to depend if your server has Mailman 
installed firstly - do you host your own website? If not, do you have 
access to configure applications on the server. We're a little 
limited in what you've given us thus far. If you can give some more 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Edited pages

2005-01-02 Thread Terry Allen
I have recently come across a problem which I need your help on please.
First let me say that the installation of Mailman which I use is NOT 
available to me - it is shared server-wide with many other users who 
are hosted on the server.

As admninistrator of a list I am setting up, I edited the html of 
two of the only webpages available to be edited to add some degree 
of personalisation, namely the "subscription results" page and the 
"user options" page.  Everything was working well until yesterday 
when I was testing a few things out, and found that for some unknown 
reason the old mailman-generated pages had come back.

Now, luckily I had backed up the html of my customised pages and was 
able to sort it out quite quickly, but it was only because I 
happened along by fluke that I noticed the problem, and I want to 
avoid it ever happening again. I don't want my users to be browsing 
my pretty, personalised webpages to be suddenly confronted by two 
rather ugly mailman pages in the middle of my site!

My webhost can't think why it happened, and is reluctant to blame an 
upgrade or restoration of some backup or other.

I think what I need to find out from you, is the usual location of 
both the two original mailman generated pages, and also the location 
of the two pages after I have edited them (if different).

Thanks in advance.
Pete Bell, UK
Hi again,
	Looking at your post, it would be hard to place the fault of 
the problem at the feet of Mailman. Pages simply do not change unless 
something has changed them. Despite protests from the host provider, 
I would be thinking either upgrade or system restoration or similar. 
I would be thinking that they stuffed up & are reluctant to admit it. 
Wouldn't be the first time this has happened.
	If the host is providing multi-user mailman environs, then 
the locations may well be different. I am guessing that the pages you 
are seeking would be in /usr/local/mailman/templates/en - however, 
this depends largely on the paths the person who set Mailman up with 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman contractors

2004-12-28 Thread Terry Allen
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From time to time I get requests for Mailman installation or
customization help, often for compensation.  This is not something I do
so I usually have to turn people down cold, or tell them to email these
two mailing lists.
However, such requests are coming in more often these days, so I wonder
if it makes sense to try to collect a list of people willing to provide
Mailman services.  I would not be willing to recommend anyone
specifically, but I would be happy to point such requests at say, a wiki
page where people can self-register.
What do you think?  We can either use the FAQ or we can use the
Python.org wiki.  I'd rather not be in the loop so I don't want to use
the static list.org pages.  I think we as a community can self-regulate
this list.
-Barry
Hi again,
	I think this is a good idea - since getting our own Mailman 
installation working, I have recieved requests for help installing. 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Deleting a list

2004-12-01 Thread Terry Allen
Hello,
We just did a Linux version and Mailman version upgrade today. I had to copy
over all my lists and configurations. I have lost the "delete this list"
choice on the Mailman list administration page. I know by default this does
not appear. I forget what the command or process is to activate this. I
cannot find it in FAQs or documentation.
Does anybody know the answer?
Thanks,
Bruce
Hi again,
	I found this out only last week or the one before during my 
first ever setup of Mailman - add this to the bottom of mm_cfg.py:

OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes
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Re: AW: AW: [Mailman-Users] Unable to get Mailman up and running withqmail/vpopmail

2004-11-26 Thread Terry Allen
Terry, Mark and of course everybody else on the list,
I didn't want to sound rude or being not thankful about what the mailman
developers or ist community have done.  I really like mailman.  I am trying
to get mailman up and running for the past two weeks and I am doing this in
my sparetime for a hockey club for free.
All I meantis that it is very difficult to know what to do when everybody
and every tutorial is offering a different solution.  I understand that it
is possible to install mailman in any choosen location, but some basics
should be the same, at least when we all talk about the same mail client.
So when running mailman together with qmail/vpopmail the way is either to
use is -with-cgi-gid=mailman or -with-cgi-gid=VCHKPW.  Do you knwo what I am
trying to say?
When Jordi offered me his help and I really appreciate any help!!!  He/she
wrote -with-cgi-gid=apache.  In this case it is absolutely no problem to
understand that my Apache user/group is "nobody" so I would have to change
it to -with-cgi-gid=nobody.  So there I see differences on every system, but
I am missing a main road to success.  Why is that not possible?
So I hope everybody got my point now.  Thank you very much to all of you
offering support for free!!!
Alex
Hi again,
	Indeed, I knew what you were saying, but the variants of so 
many operating systems makes it nigh on impossible to have things so 
easy.
	Like you, I have been struggling with Mailman & trust me, 
once you nail it, you will wonder exactly where you went wrong & why 
when it was so obvious.
	I found the combination of these 3 tutorials the best for my 
system (Mac OSX w/POostfix), but you'll need to substitute your 
system's paths in many places:

http://www.afp548.com/articles/Jaguar/mailman21-new.html
http://www.hesketh.com/publications/mailman_made_easy.html
http://www.afp548.com/Articles/mail/python-mailman.html
	My suggestion is to get the command line way of creating 
lists working firstly, then look at fixing up the web interface - if 
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Re: AW: [Mailman-Users] Unable to get Mailman up and running with qmail/vpopmail

2004-11-26 Thread Terry Allen
Bryan, what do you say about this?  I believe qmail/vpopmail is a pretty
wide spreaded configuration by now and I don't understand why the creators
of mailman can't just say, that's the way to go, fullstop!
Best regards,
Alex
Hi again,
	While it would be excellent to have everyone using the same, 
it's just never going to happen. Yes, qmail/vpopmail is relatively 
popular, but not even close to the extent of sendmail usage & also 
not close to Postfix either. Exim is also a popular choice, as are 
Courier-MTA & Communigate Pro along with qmail & a pile of others, so 
it's best to allow Mailman the extent of running with any mail server 
you care to run, depending on your configuration.
	The other problem developers also face is that people running 
a particular OS & MTA, such as your choice of qmail is that there are 
a myriad of configuration options for that, using different paths for 
directories & so on, such as the option of running Mailman in any 
directory so chosen, so I believe Mailman developers have don the 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors in Mailman

2004-11-25 Thread Terry Allen
Terry Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
1 - If I make a change to mm_cfg.py, to refresh the config, is it
sufficient to from the command line simply run bin/mailmanctl reload
  bin/mailmanctl restart
(not reload)
2 - In my Postfix logs, this appeared - fatal: open
/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.db: Permission denied - could someone
let me know what permissions should be applied to this.
I don't know for sure. README.POSTFIX says owner and group should be
the mailman user and group, but doesn't mention permissions. It
appears that bin/genaliases creates these files with permissions
rw-rw-r--.
3 - If I create a list from the command line, I am successful in
creating the list - however, if I try to create a list from the web
interface, I get this error: Error: Unknown virtual host:
heard.com.au - now, in mm_cfg.py, I have the following lines:
DEFAULT_URL = 'http://heard.com.au/mailman/'
OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes
add_virtualhost = ( 'heard.com.au' , 'heard.com.au' )
Could anyone suggest where I have gone wrong please - my web
interface was working at first, but obviously something I have
changed has stuffed up.
This is telling you that 'heard.com.au' is not a key in the
VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary. Your add_virtualhost line is wrong. It
should be
add_virtualhost('heard.com.au', 'heard.com.au')
No "=".
Also, DEFAULT_URL is obsolete. You should be using DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN.
This should be OK from Defaults.py -
  DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
Also, use DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST. If these are correct
in Defaults.py, i.e. both = 'heard.com.au', then the only thing of the
above you need in mm_cfg.py is
  OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes
If these are not correct in Defaults.py, then, in addition, you need in
mm_cfg.py
  DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'heard.com.au'
  DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'heard.com.au'
  VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
  add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
Hi again,
	Many thanks for the reply there. The settings in my 
Defaults.py had picked up the hostname, so I set it to the correct 
name & everything's working now, including delete.
	Regarding the permissions for aliases.db, chmod 664 has done 
the trick. I think the issue that as posted a day or so ago regarding 
being unable to delete a list using the web interface on OSX Server 
is the incorrect permissions for that file as I had the same error 
until I had changed the permissions for that file.
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[Mailman-Users] Errors in Mailman

2004-11-25 Thread Terry Allen
Hi again,
	I have Mailman best part running, but there are a few odd 
errors & I have a few short questions relating to those if someone 
wouldn't mind replying to them.

1 - If I make a change to mm_cfg.py, to refresh the config, is it 
sufficient to from the command line simply run bin/mailmanctl reload

2 - In my Postfix logs, this appeared - fatal: open 
/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.db: Permission denied - could someone 
let me know what permissions should be applied to this.

3 - If I create a list from the command line, I am successful in 
creating the list - however, if I try to create a list from the web 
interface, I get this error: Error: Unknown virtual host: 
heard.com.au - now, in mm_cfg.py, I have the following lines:
DEFAULT_URL = 'http://heard.com.au/mailman/'
OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes
add_virtualhost = ( 'heard.com.au' , 'heard.com.au' )
Could anyone suggest where I have gone wrong please - my web 
interface was working at first, but obviously something I have 
changed has stuffed up.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Suspicious headers (was Deleting a list)

2004-11-24 Thread Terry Allen
At 7:21 AM -0800 2004-11-24, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Hold for "suspicious header" occurs because a header matched one of the
 regexps in bounce_matching_headers - see "legacy spam filters" in
 Privacy options...->Spam filters.
	Ahh.  Found it.  Apparently, there have been major spam 
problems in the past with ozemail.com.au -- bad enough that they got 
added to the "legacy spam filters" definition.  Since I didn't add 
this, I'm rather loathe to remove it without approval from Barry.

Barry?
Hi again,
	Yes, I have also complained to OzEmail about their spam 
problem. However, my mail actually comes from our own network 
(heard.com.au), which includes spam & virus filtering, so he only 
ozemail.com.au part of the headers is the actual email address.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Deleting a list

2004-11-24 Thread Terry Allen
Bryan Fullerton wrote:
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:16:05 +1100, Terry Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Is it possible to delete a list using the HTML pages in
 Mailman? If not, am I correct in that deleting a list requires
 running the rmlist command from the command line like this:
Good question. I see there's a rmlist wrapper in the cgi-bin
directory, so theoretically you should be able to use the URL
/mailman/rmlist/listname, but when I tried with one of my lists I get
simply this back:
You're being a sneaky list owner!
So either there are more arguments needed, or perhaps someone was just
having a private laugh when that command was added to the web
interface...
Actually, neither (unless you want to consider a mm_cfg parameter an
argument). If OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = Yes as I indicated
in my previous post, what you tried will work.
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Hi again,
	Many thanks for the above & your last reply. I'm still unsure 
as to why my posts are being held prior to being sent - they are 
getting through, but something about a 'suspcicous header'. Possibly 
because my address is actually sent from our own network, not via my 
original ISP server.
	From what I can gather, I can add your above suggestion to 
mm_cfg.py & rerun the config? Thnks again for your replies.
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[Mailman-Users] Deleting a list

2004-11-23 Thread Terry Allen
Hi again,
	I have a quick question that doesn't seem to be answered in 
any of the documentation I have found or the FAQs I have read.
	Is it possible to delete a list using the HTML pages in 
Mailman? If not, am I correct in that deleting a list requires 
running the rmlist command from the command line like this:

rmlist listname
	Finally, many thanks to those who assisted me in getting 
Mailman up & running.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Second attempt at posting

2004-11-21 Thread Terry Allen
Terry Allen wrote:
I tried earlier to post to this list but was bounced for some
unknown reason.
This post and a subsequent one were just approved by the moderator and
delivered to the list. So far there's no sign of the earlier one.
These later two may have been held because you are not a list member
if that is in fact the case.
In installing on Mac OSX 10.3.6, I have encountered the
following errors:
[server:~mailman/bin] root# ./check_perms -f
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "./check_perms", line 46, in ?
 from Mailman import mm_cfg
   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py", line 45, in ?
 add_virtualhost (heard.com.au, heard.com.au)
NameError: name 'heard' is not defined
The line which begins add_virtualhost is exactly as it
appears in mm_cfg.py
Could anyone point me in the right direction to try to get
this installation up & running please.
It should be
 add_virtualhost ('heard.com.au', 'heard.com.au')
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Hi again,
	Many thanks for that - after editing that, then running 
check_perms -f, it came up with no errors, so I'll be heading to see 
what happens next.

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[Mailman-Users] Installation problems

2004-11-20 Thread Terry Allen
Hi all,
	I have been trying to get Mailman installed & have been 
attempting to post to the users list without success.
	I have an error installing Mailman after running check_perms 
-f which is as follows:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./check_perms", line 46, in ?
from Mailman import mm_cfg
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py", line 45, in ?
add_virtualhost (heard.com.au, heard.com.au)
NameError: name 'heard' is not defined
	I have looked in the FAQ, but nothing relates specifically to 
that error - I see entries relating to globalname, but not what I 
have listed.
	My system details are as follows:

Mac OSX 10.3.6 (client version)
Python 2.3
Mailman 2.1.5
Postfix 2.1.5
Apache 2.0.50
Can anyone point me in the right directiopn please.
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[Mailman-Users] Second attempt at posting

2004-11-20 Thread Terry Allen
Hi there,
	I tried earlier to post to this list but was bounced for some 
unknown reason.
	In installing on Mac OSX 10.3.6, I have encountered the 
following errors:

[server:~mailman/bin] root# ./check_perms -f
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./check_perms", line 46, in ?
from Mailman import mm_cfg
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py", line 45, in ?
add_virtualhost (heard.com.au, heard.com.au)
NameError: name 'heard' is not defined
	The line which begins add_virtualhost is exactly as it 
appears in mm_cfg.py
	Could anyone point me in the right direction to try to get 
this installation up & running please.
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