Re: [MlMt] r5978

[Edward Thome]

I should say that I am running Sonoma beta 7.
Personally, I am a careful person. To balance things out, I try r5978 
and Sonoma beta 7.


On 1 Sep 2023, at 10:10, Steve Mayer via mailmate wrote:


I’ve been having no issues with r5978 at all.

Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com

On 1 Sep 2023, at 8:32, Edward Thome wrote:


Hello, Everyone.

r5976 was working great for me. I am back to it after a little foray 
into r5978. Various mailboxes kept greying out as ‘disconnected’ 
and then they would not keep synced. Did anyone else notice that?


All the best to you all!
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[MlMt] r5978

[Edward Thome]

Hello, Everyone.

r5976 was working great for me. I am back to it after a little foray 
into r5978. Various mailboxes kept greying out as ‘disconnected’ and 
then they would not keep synced. Did anyone else notice that?


All the best to you all!
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[MlMt] Fwd: r5971 Update

[Edward Thome]

I’m having no issues with 5974 (didn’t have any with 5971 though). 
 Just letting you know.


Steve Mayer
smaye...@me.com


Same here. No issues with either r5971 or r5974.
I think that r5974 might be more spry than r5974.

All the best to you all.
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Re: [MlMt] Is Benny Ok?

[Edward Thome]

On 13 Jun 2023, at 8:47, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote:

Interesting, because I sent Benny feedback that I wasn't able to 
remove the `From` column in r5965. I wanted to keep a few other 
columsn, but not ones that contain the same information as the 
Standard Single Column. But in my case the `From` column was greyed 
out.

--


If you Control-click on a column header and go down to ‘Outline 
Column’ and select “Standard Single Column” or any other column 
but “From”, then From will no longer be greyed out and you can 
remove the “From” column.


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Re: [MlMt] Is Benny Ok?

[Edward Thome]

On 13 Jun 2023, at 5:59, Henry Seiden wrote:

I can add, subtract or otherwise edit the columns in the messages at 
will, with Single Column enabled.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden


I change which columns are available in any pane by Control-clicking the 
top/heading of one column (say, Subject) and the selecting or 
deselecting choices from the resulting contextual menu.


My experience is that if you remove *all* other columns after enabling 
Standard Single Column, then there are no further column headings in 
which to click to add any other columns back…you just have the single 
headerless column.


Initially, when I enabled SSC, there was one column with ‘Standard 
Single Column’ at the top/header, another with ‘Subject’, another 
with ‘From’, and so on. After switching ‘Outline Column’ to 
Standard Single Column, it is possible to remove all the columns but 
one. If you deselect all other columns except ‘Standard Single 
Column’, then you see the ‘Standard Single Column’ layout in that 
pane, **but** it no longer has a top/header to select and so I cannot 
use the above method to add back a ‘Tags’ column or any other 
column.


It might be the method that I use. Or it might be that **nobody** else 
in the world would think of removing all the other columns.


At any rate, if you quit r5965 and open r5964, it will come up with a 
‘From’ column. If you add a ‘Subject’ column and quit r5964, 
then when you open r5965 again, you have column headers with which to 
add Standard Single Column back…and all can be put back as you want 
it.


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Re: [MlMt] Is Benny Ok?

[Edward Thome]

On 12 Jun 2023, at 8:32, Henry Seiden wrote:

Tried it out. As Benny said, the install was flawless and per other 
comments, the single column + Correspondence Layout with settings 
changes — shutting off additional columns, turning off the alternate 
row coloring – makes for a nice look. Agree on your cleaner comment.


Particularly, I like the two line nature of the Subject section.

Respectfully,

Henry Seiden


It might be good to leave at least one other column besides the 
‘Standard Single Column’, such as Attachments or Tags, or else it 
might not be possible to edit what columns that you show. I had to go 
back to r5964 to put back an extra column (to the ‘Correspondence 
View’ heading).

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Re: [MlMt] Is Benny Ok?

[Edward Thome]

On 9 Jun 2023, at 9:14, Edward Thome wrote:


On 8 Jun 2023, at 6:31, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

It does, experimentally, support a single column mode. This is a bit 
cumbersome to try out for now though. You'll have to enable the new 
“Standard Single Column” and then disable the other columns, but 
this should then work well in the Widescreen layout. I'd also 
recommend disabling the alternate row coloring option in the Viewer 
preferences pane.


r5965 is working great for me!
Forgive my rude question, but what is the main value of “Standard 
Single Column”? I think that I see it, but I thought that I’d ask.
I am using it, and not being able to give up the Correspondence 
Layout, I went back (from Widescreen) to Correspondence. I then 
enabled Standard Single Column in the Correspondence pane, and I 
appreciate Standard Single Column in that pane (which had been a 
little opaque in terms of information).


Thank you, Benny. I have a somewhat stressful life and one of my 
stress-relievers is to download your most recent and tinker.


All the best,
Ed


Not to be a bandwidth hog, but I am replying again to say that I think 
that Standard Single Column really shines under the Correspondence 
Layout.

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Re: [MlMt] Is Benny Ok?

[Edward Thome]

On 8 Jun 2023, at 6:31, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

It does, experimentally, support a single column mode. This is a bit 
cumbersome to try out for now though. You'll have to enable the new 
“Standard Single Column” and then disable the other columns, but 
this should then work well in the Widescreen layout. I'd also 
recommend disabling the alternate row coloring option in the Viewer 
preferences pane.


r5965 is working great for me!
Forgive my rude question, but what is the main value of “Standard 
Single Column”? I think that I see it, but I thought that I’d ask.
I am using it, and not being able to give up the Correspondence Layout, 
I went back (from Widescreen) to Correspondence. I then enabled Standard 
Single Column in the Correspondence pane, and I appreciate Standard 
Single Column in that pane (which had been a little opaque in terms of 
information).


Thank you, Benny. I have a somewhat stressful life and one of my 
stress-relievers is to download your most recent and tinker.


All the best,
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Re: [MlMt] Colors in mailbox menu

[Edward Thome]

On 30 Oct 2022, at 9:44, Thomas Grundberg wrote:


2022-10-30 kl 14:51 skrev aisrael:

I would love to be able to change the color of the mails in the 
Message list of any given mailbox. How can I do that?


First choose a custom color:

![](cid:63478556-3D17-46A4-AE3B-04AA06E60A68@grundberg.se 
"custom.jpg")


(Pardon the lousy image; had to downsample to be able to post.)


That worked for me, even though “Use Color in Message List” had been 
grayed out previously. That is interesting that the menu item is grayed 
until one chooses a custom color.  I just checked and under this method, 
it does not matter whether or not this flag is set to YES or NO.


defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmMessageColorsEnabled -bool No

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Re: [MlMt] Colors in mailbox menu

[Edward Thome]

On 30 Oct 2022, at 8:51, aisrael wrote:

Regarding “Use Colour in Message List”, I see a different behavior 
 (I use v5898) : when I right-click on a maibox name (whether real or 
smart), “Use Colour in Message List” is grayed. I remember once I 
was able to change the color (can’t remember how), but the only 
change was the color of the mailbox icon, all the messages remained 
black (or white, depending…).
I would love to be able to change the color of the mails in the 
Message list of any given mailbox. How can I do that?


“Use Colour in Message List” is grayed for me as well. I can still 
get some kind of colorization to work through using both the Hidden 
Preference command in Terminal:


defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmMessageColorsEnabled -bool YES

and through a file named “Styles.plist” located in 
~/Library/Application\ Support/MailMate/


I don’t know if it is standard issue when MailMate starts up the first 
time, or if I was playing around with things that I saw in the *Hidden 
Preferences* portion of the MailMate Help. [When I ?need? to 
procrastinate, I am a tinkerer.]   What mine had in it is:

- - -
{   styles = (
{   type = keyword;
keyword = '\\Flagged';
color = "#00FF00";
fontStyle = "bold";
},
{   type = mailbox;
color = "#00";
uuid = 'INBOX';
fontStyle = "italic"; // boldAndItalic can also be used
},
{   /*disabled = ":true";*/
type = filter;
color = "#FF";
uuid = '0249F96D-9B86-452A-B34A-83D83B0125FE';
},
);
}
- - -
I just changed the first two blocks to:
- - -
{   type = keyword;
keyword = '\\Flagged';
color = “systemRedcolor”;
fontStyle = "bold";
},
{   type = mailbox;
color = "systemBlueColor";
uuid = 'INBOX';
fontStyle = "italic"; // boldAndItalic can also be used
},
- - -
and added
- - -
{   type = mailbox;
color = "systemGreenColor";
uuid = ‘ARCHIVE;
fontStyle = “regular”;
},
- - -
and the message listings in the Inbox are now all blue italic (upon 
restart of MailMate), and the message listing of all flagged messages 
(besides having the flag) are in bold red. The message listing of all 
archived messages are in green, regular font. At first I wondered why I 
would do that, but now I see why. If I look in a smart mailbox, I can 
see by a glance the color of the message listing that some are still in 
the Inbox and some are flagged and some have been archived.


I think that I will take the ‘italic’ off, because the mailbox now 
looks to alarming, which means that I’ll have to procrastinate, and 
start tinkering…and then maybe disable something about MailMate that I 
need. ;-)


All the best,
Ed

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Re: [MlMt] MacOS 13 Ventura

[Edward Thome]

On 2 Sep 2022, at 11:02, Joseph P. Hillenburg wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Has Mailmate been tested on Ventura? Will a new build be necessary?
>

It is working fine for me on Ventura.
Sometimes, it can be a bit slow in bringing up a new composer window to reply 
to an email, but now that I write this it is very snappy about the same so 
maybe that was just special to whatever circumstances are going on at the time.

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Re: [MlMt] r5907 and Group Address completion

[Edward Thome]

On 24 Jul 2022, at 16:19, Henry Seiden wrote:

I notice three things overall in my use of Contacts with MailMate:
1. In Contacts, the group name is very difficult to add or rename - 
seems an app issue and not the only one in Contacts, which is why I 
don’t use it. Unfortunately my preferred app, Busy Contacts 
doesn’t have the same feature, it has others.
2. Expansion of the group to show emails in MailMate. In an existing 
email (like this one), the group name just sits there. It isn’t 
expandable to a list of names for me, while in a new (empty) email it 
is. MailMate issue?
3. The dropdown in MailMate does appear for each person in the 
expanded Mail list, once expanded view is showing, however alternate 
emails in each contact’s info are not visible or selectable.


I believe that you are correct in that Contacts.app is involved.
I believe that if a contact card comes from more than one set of contact 
groups (say, iCloud, LocalISP, Gmail), then it won’t show up when the 
group completes. You can tell by looking at the contact in Contacts.app 
and looking for the entry for “cards” just above “note”.


If you are using a Smart Group, this can cause the address to show up 
twice.


I have my all my Contacts pruned accordingly, and it is working for me 
now.


Thanks, for the tip, Henry.
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Re: [MlMt] r5907 and Group Address completion

[Edward Thome]

On 24 Jul 2022, at 7:04, Henry Seiden wrote:


Hi Edward,

So I take it from your note that you make a group mail from Contacts 
and save it in MailMate (r5907). How is this done. The help menu 
speaks to using Contacts or other app to select the group, then send 
selected contacts to MailMate. Is this (or any alternate selections) 
then saved as your group?


A few days ago I first discovered that within Contacts, one could select 
the group, control click on the group name, and select “Send email to 
GroupName” and then a composer window opens in MailMate with the group 
in the Recipient line. However, I only get 5 names of 29 group members 
when I do that with r5907.


However, I have always sent group emails from within MailMate. To send a 
group email to “Department” containing all 29 members of the 
department, [I actually put my address in the ‘to’ field and then] I 
start typing “Department” in the Cc: field and and it completes to 
say ‘Department’. I then hit the Return key, and all 29 contacts 
show up…well they used to. Now I only get 5. In r5898, typing dept 
would cause ‘Department’ to complete and after hitting Return, all 
29 showed up. In r5899, typing dept results in it completing as: 
‘Department (29 contacts)’ and hitting Return shows me just 5 of the 
29 email addresses.


It will probably get sorted out for r5909 or something.
Ed
PS: If I put the group in BCC, which might otherwise be better etiquette 
for 29 people, I find that one of the 29 wonders if he was the only one 
to get the email, or wonders who was left out, or…

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Re: [MlMt] r5907 and Group Address completion

[Edward Thome]

On 22 Jul 2022, at 11:12, Glenn P. Parker wrote:

I have also noticed some odd behavior with address group completion. 
For me, a particular group of 10 addresses gets doubled (the entire 
group is repeated) every time. However, a larger group of about 15 or 
so consistently expands correctly.




I checked today: r5898 does not do this. r5899 does.

Keep cool, Everyone.
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Re: [MlMt] r5907 and Group Address completion

[Edward Thome]

On 21 Jul 2022, at 14:36, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 21 Jul 2022, at 17:12, Edward Thome wrote:


Has anyone else noticed this issue on r5907.
I have a group address for all members of my department, and it used 
to complete to include all 29 members. Now it only shows a small 
number.


Most of the code related to MailMate expanding groups has changed 
recently and bugs are therefore quite likely (on any macOS release).


Maybe you could create a very simple group for which only 1 of 2 
contacts are found by MailMate. Then send me the two contacts off list 
and I'll hopefully be able to reproduce it.


On a computer running OS X 10.15 it shows about 1/3 of them. On a 
computer running OS X 13 public beta it only shows 1/6 of them.


This difference does sound very strange, but maybe it's related to 
some random nature of the bug causing this.


Thanks! I’ll get back to this when you’re back from vacation.
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[MlMt] r5907 and Group Address completion

[Edward Thome]

Hello, Everyone.

Has anyone else noticed this issue on r5907.
I have a group address for all members of my department, and it used to 
complete to include all 29 members. Now it only shows a small number. On 
a computer running OS X 10.15 it shows about 1/3 of them. On a computer 
running OS X 13 public beta it only shows 1/6 of them.


Thank you in advance,
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Re: [MlMt] 5900 first blush...

[Edward Thome]

Preside is working well for me with GMail.
It really is an astoundingly good piece of software…almost 
beyond-human-seeming in what it is able to do…the most MailMate-like 
of any iOS app.


Ed

On 24 Jun 2022, at 15:16, Stephan Kleiber via mailmate wrote:


Hi Henry,

honestly, I don’t know. Like Alain said, “them” is basically 
just Rich. He usually answers support requests fairly quickly and 
thoroughly, which is my experience as well, so I’m not sure why he 
didn’t/couldn’t help you with this. Maybe just try writing another 
support mail?


Gmail is not my primary mail account, but I have it set up in Preside 
and never had any problems with it. How did you try to import your 
existing account? Do you mean you had it previously set up in iOS 
Mail?


Cheers
Stephan

On 24 Jun 2022, at 22:04, Henry Seiden wrote:


Stephen,

Any idea what is going on in Preside? I sent in a support request to 
them about an issue with Google Mail (gmail).


I tried it with my Google (gmail) account and it was a bust. Preside 
refused to accept the OAUTH login info from Google and quit at that 
step in their instructions. Also would not import existing accounts 
in any way.


So, I’m kinda done there.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
- -
Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 24 Jun 2022, at 15:18, Stephan Kleiber via mailmate wrote:

The one thing that I sorely miss in Preside is PGP signing and 
encryption support. Other than that, it‘s really, really powerful. 
You won‘t get any closer to MailMate with an email client on a 
mobile device.


On 24. Jun 2022 at 18:29:42 CEST, aisrael  
wrote:


Interesting, I missed this piece. I am a heavy user of Preside 
(never
got used to Altamail), which I also find the closest thing to 
Mailmate
on an iPhone. In particular its Search function is pretty 
impressive. In
addition, its developer, Rich Waters, answers queries very quickly. 
He
mentioned he is a also a single-person ‘team’, and he 
interacted

with Benny in the past.

Alain

PS : I had problems with Preside because of my Exchange server, but
Exchange is problematic with all email clients, including Mailmate.


On 24 Jun 2022, at 18:04, bw...@wraytx.com wrote:


On Jun 24, 2022, at 11:00 AM, Michael Nietzold wrote:

Any Plans to make it in the future?



Benny has said “No” to an iOS version numerous times in the 
past.


A couple of years ago, with the valuable help of several members 
of
this mailing list, I wrote a piece about two possible iOS 
alternatives

you might want to consider:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.brycewray.com/posts/2020/05/battle-ios-email-heavyweights/__;!!JFdNOqOXpB6UZW0!vojUqoRbxNL3VX5VWytKI9gpO1EfKk9o58qudYCOti2MxC2xIwJ3NSPRLC04M1rnaJBMlYUp4H4ZvL0$


Best wishes,

Bryce Wray
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.brycewray.com__;!!JFdNOqOXpB6UZW0!vojUqoRbxNL3VX5VWytKI9gpO1EfKk9o58qudYCOti2MxC2xIwJ3NSPRLC04M1rnaJBMlYUpxZ2Kg84$

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Re: [MlMt] Request of all participants of this group [feature request]

[Edward Thome]

On 29 Apr 2022, at 8:47, Alexandre Takacs wrote:

> That’s exactly how it works for me and how I generated this reply.
>
> Am I missing something ?

This is a choice in Preferences:Composer: Only include selected text.
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Re: [MlMt] Scrolling of message contents gets "stuck"

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On 28 Feb 2022, at 11:59, Steve Burling wrote:


On 28 Feb 2022, at 5:06, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 26 Feb 2022, at 19:29, Steve Burling wrote:


Let me know if it's reproducible. Note that MailMate caches displayed 
messages. This means you need to open the message in a new window to 
trigger re-parsing/drawing. You can also use “Message ▸ 
Reset...” to force MailMate to fetch it as if it was a new message.


I've never managed to *make* it happen. It's also the case that I 
don't *think* that I'm opening a new window when I switch to a 
different message and then back again. I'm just clicking on another 
message in the message list, then back to the problem child. Both 
before and after I do the switch/switch back, I'm viewing the message 
in the message pane. I almost never open a message in its own window 
unless I'm trying to look at two simultaneously.




I also just use the message viewer and rarely open a message in a new 
window, and I do see this behavior. I am always running the most recent 
beta release and I am on Monterey. It does not happen with every 
message, but seems to happen with *some* messages which have pictures 
inside. Switching layout always allows me to scroll all the way down (I 
usually use “Correspondence View”). However, I don’t know if 
staying in “Three Panes” (for instance) would avoid it in the first 
place.


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Re: [MlMt] Apple-F doesn't function as expected if message window is open

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On 16 Sep 2021, at 10:50, Eric Sharakan wrote:


On 16 Sep 2021, at 10:41, Edward Thome wrote:


On 16 Sep 2021, at 9:37, Raza Rizvi wrote:

 This has been bugging me for a while, but as the subject says, 
using Apple F is normally reserved to help find text matching 
your input. If you have focus on a Mailmate message window, it 
collapses that window so that it ends as a narrow window showing 
the red button to close the window, with no text.


 The only way I have found to return the window to any form of 
usable state is to use Window/Zoom and resize it. On occasions 
eve this will just make the narrow window taller in size.


 I cannot find any listing of Apple F in the Mailmate menus, nor 
in the keybinding files (in 5820), so I cannot work out what is 
going on, and why.


 Closing Mailmate and reopening it does not make the same mail 
message return to ‘normal’ size, it retains its new narrow 
size…


 Any suggestions?


It's just a bug: you can resize the window using the mouse but it 
is annoying as the separate message window size will stay like 
this until they're resized.


Charlie




Command-F on open Message windows now works properly in r5831, available 
as a test build if you’re running Monterey anyway.


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Re: [MlMt] Thanks for r5826 — Composer fix

[Edward Thome]

On 23 Sep 2021, at 10:04, Bryce Wray wrote:

Just a note that I hope Benny will see — r5826, released today (my 
time), does indeed fix the Composer issue in r5821 through r5825 which 
kept causing a crash whenever I’d open a new email. As the Release 
Notes say:




I have MailMate installed on two computers, one running Monterey and one 
running Catalina (& won’t upgrade further).
The one running Monterey sees (checking for Test Builds) r5831 and the 
other still only sees r5820.


The Command-F in a separate message window seems to be fixed.

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Re: [MlMt] Apple-F doesn't function as expected if message window is open

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On 16 Sep 2021, at 9:37, Raza Rizvi wrote:

 This has been bugging me for a while, but as the subject says, 
using Apple F is normally reserved to help find text matching your 
input. If you have focus on a Mailmate message window, it collapses 
that window so that it ends as a narrow window showing the red 
button to close the window, with no text.


 The only way I have found to return the window to any form of 
usable state is to use Window/Zoom and resize it. On occasions eve 
this will just make the narrow window taller in size.


 I cannot find any listing of Apple F in the Mailmate menus, nor in 
the keybinding files (in 5820), so I cannot work out what is going 
on, and why.


 Closing Mailmate and reopening it does not make the same mail 
message return to ‘normal’ size, it retains its new narrow 
size…


 Any suggestions?


It's just a bug: you can resize the window using the mouse but it is 
annoying as the separate message window size will stay like this 
until they're resized.


Charlie


I see Cmd-F bound to the 'Edit->Find->Find...' menu item, and the 
shortcut works for me (running r5820 under macOS 11.5.2).


Eric - you are correct, now I look I also see this. But that is 
clearly not what is happening. Apple F works in all other apps so it 
appears to be a unique failure to Mailmate.


Just to clarify, because when I read Eric’s message I got the idea 
that Eric was thinking what I originally thought…Command-F while 
viewing the message in the Viewer Window.  However, there is a 
difference in how MM behaves if (a) the message is being viewed in the 
Viewer Window (in which case Command-F works as expected) versus (b) the 
message is in its own window (in which case Command-F does what Ravi has 
mentioned).

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Re: [MlMt] Feature Request: Defer sending by default

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On 26 Aug 2021, at 4:30, Stephan Bösebeck wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just an idea, that might be interesting for others. If by default the sending 
> of emails could be defered by 5 minutes, you could cancel a sent email, 
> especially if you hit sent accidentally. Would be great, if we had a setting 
> for that as well.
>
> Or is that already possible and I am missing it somehow...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stephan

Hello.

There is a hidden preference to enable this.  In Terminal, write:

defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmSendMessageDelayEnabled -bool YES

and then again:

defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmSendMessageDelay -integer 300

for an automatic delay of 300 seconds.

It keeps me from forgetting something obvious…I have mine set at 45 seconds 
because usually I remember what I should have said just as I am hitting ’Send’. 
 If I have it set as long as 5 minutes, I get impatient for it to send and end 
up using the key sequence to send immediately, thereby overriding the ‘Send 
Later’ that I put in place.  :-)

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Re: [MlMt] How to get the "URL" to a message?

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On 8 Jul 2021, at 8:10, Guillaume Barrette wrote:


Hi,

   You mean the URL to the message we get by using the "Edit > Copy 
as Link" menu item or CMD+ALT+SHIFT+C shortcut?


Best,

--
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Thanks!  The key-sequence *does* work for me.  Using the command from 
the menubar does not.

Ed


On 8 Jul 2021, at 8:59, Edward Thome wrote:


On 8 Jul 2021, at 7:37, leo wrote:


Hi there

MailMate support the `message://` protocol to open a
message from the outside of MailMate.

But how do I get the full URL like 
`message://%3cWNTT.AvO4CwpyDv8Q~fovGnwC~yDAwakqVhb~yoshWDj~PP~o.1625618369.5i3ci...@webph04.int.wightpowtech.com%3e` 
to a given message?




This is not sophisticated, but if you use the Command Bundle for 
Reminders.app, the address & link back to the message can be found in 
Reminders.
I had thought that the Command Bundle “Copy (Email) Link” would 
grab it automatically, but the bundle doesn’t seem to do anything 
for me.


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Re: [MlMt] How to get the "URL" to a message?

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On 8 Jul 2021, at 7:37, leo wrote:


Hi there

MailMate support the `message://` protocol to open a
message from the outside of MailMate.

But how do I get the full URL like 
`message://%3cWNTT.AvO4CwpyDv8Q~fovGnwC~yDAwakqVhb~yoshWDj~PP~o.1625618369.5i3ci...@webph04.int.wightpowtech.com%3e` 
to a given message?




This is not sophisticated, but if you use the Command Bundle for 
Reminders.app, the address & link back to the message can be found in 
Reminders.
I had thought that the Command Bundle “Copy (Email) Link” would grab 
it automatically, but the bundle doesn’t seem to do anything for me.


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Re: [MlMt] Scrolling message body

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On 29 Jun 2021, at 22:18, Ralph Alvy wrote:

I seem to remember that I used to scroll a message body hitting 
Spacebar to go forward and Shift-Spacebar to go backwards. But 
Shift-Spacebar doesn't do that anymore. Am I mis-remembering?


Mailmate Version 1.13.2 (5726)


What you describe still works in version 1.14 r5818 (the latest beta).  
I went back and tried r5737 (Shift-Spacebar did not scroll backwards) 
and r5773 where both worked as you said.  So if you didn’t want to go 
all the way forward to the latest beta, v 1.14 r5773 will work.


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Re: [MlMt] MM crashing when I try to print

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On 28 Jun 2021, at 8:11, Edward Thome wrote:


On 27 Jun 2021, at 16:06, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:

Okay… so you are suggesting that I install it over the automatic 
upgrade that I have enabled in MM? MM says I’m up to date.


As for a known bug, I went searching the archives and didn’t see a 
conversation.. how could I have missed it?


Annamarie Pluhar
802-451-1941
802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)



In the Archives, look under November 2020.

https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2020-November/thread.html

I have MailMate look for beta upgrades and for awhile there, it 
stopped showing new ones. So you might have to download one past r5737 
and then let MailMate suggest what version is next.




As for which release, here is what at the opening of the Release Notes 
under r5798:


**Revision 5798 (Sunday, April 18, 2021) — Version 1.14 Beta 2**

The following is a rewrite of all test release notes since r5757. The 
r5758-5797 releases all had arm64 (M1) support, but they were not 
directly available to r5757 users via the test release branch. This 
changes with r5798 which is now considered the best option for Big Sur 
users and, in particular, for M1 users.


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Re: [MlMt] MM crashing when I try to print

[Edward Thome]

On 27 Jun 2021, at 16:06, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:

> Okay… so you are suggesting that I install it over the automatic upgrade that 
> I have enabled in MM? MM says I’m up to date.
>
> As for a known bug, I went searching the archives and didn’t see a 
> conversation.. how could I have missed it?
>
> Annamarie Pluhar
> 802-451-1941
> 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.)
>

In the Archives, look under November 2020.

https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2020-November/thread.html

I have MailMate look for beta upgrades and for awhile there, it stopped showing 
new ones. So you might have to download one past r5737 and then let MailMate 
suggest what version is next.

Good luck,
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Re: [MlMt] MM crashing when I try to print

[Edward Thome]

On 27 Jun 2021, at 13:13, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:


Hi

This is probably related to Big Sur which I installed last weekend. 
Have discovered that I can’t print an email - either with the print 
icon or the command-p. Causes a crash. I don’t actually need to 
print the email - I use that route to PDF it to send receipts to our 
bookkeeper. Suggestions?


I’m on Version 1.13.2 (5673).



Yes, that is a known bug, but printing on Big Sur works again as of 
r5737 forward.


xhttps://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/

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Re: [MlMt] no longer able to send Yahoo! IMAP emails

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My information might be dated; that is the way it used to be about 4-5 
years ago.


On 15 Jun 2021, at 14:16, Peter Borsella wrote:

Oh, wow, I didn’t know payment was required!  Thank you, and to 
Alexandre, for letting me know.


On 15 Jun 2021, at 15:10, Edward Thome wrote:

Yahoo has Pop accounts for free but the IMAP will only work 
temporarily on the same address before failing.  You have to pay 
Yahoo for their IMAP accounts.


Ed

On 15 Jun 2021, at 14:08, Peter Borsella wrote:

Do you mean for MailMate?  Would a registered license indicate 
“paid?”


On 15 Jun 2021, at 14:57, Alexandre Takacs wrote:


Do you have a paid account ?

I believe your won’t be able to do smtp with free accounts 
anymore.


On 15 Jun 2021, at 18:59, Peter Borsella wrote:

Yahoo! Has been working fine for me until several weeks ago when I 
could no longer send message.  At about that same time I removed 
VPN software from my system that I was not using.  Here’s what 
Yahoo! recommends:

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Re: [MlMt] no longer able to send Yahoo! IMAP emails

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Yahoo has Pop accounts for free but the IMAP will only work temporarily 
on the same address before failing.  You have to pay Yahoo for their 
IMAP accounts.


Ed

On 15 Jun 2021, at 14:08, Peter Borsella wrote:

Do you mean for MailMate?  Would a registered license indicate 
“paid?”


On 15 Jun 2021, at 14:57, Alexandre Takacs wrote:


Do you have a paid account ?

I believe your won’t be able to do smtp with free accounts anymore.

On 15 Jun 2021, at 18:59, Peter Borsella wrote:

Yahoo! Has been working fine for me until several weeks ago when I 
could no longer send message.  At about that same time I removed VPN 
software from my system that I was not using.  Here’s what Yahoo! 
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Re: [MlMt] MailMate and M1?

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On 19 Apr 2021, at 11:14, Pete Long wrote:


Hi all,

This is probably a stupid question but will MailMate work on a Mac 
Mini with

an M1 chip?

Thanks.

Pete.


The newest (beta?) release, r5798, says:

* New: Universal build running natively on both M1-based (arm64) Macs 
and Intel-based Macs (x86_64).


So it looks like the answer is yes, although it might be the first 
release which does so. You can access it here:


http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/

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Re: [MlMt] Has anyone integrated IA Writer with MM?

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On 10 Apr 2021, at 20:01, Rob Russell wrote:


Hi,

I see that IA Writer has url scheme.

1. Does this mean it would be possible to create a bundle that 
integrates IA Writer as an editor for MailMate?


2. Has anyone done this?

Thanks

Rob
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I haven’t written a bundle for it, but if I control-click in the 
composer window of anything that I’ve written in IA Writer, the 
contextual menu that comes up offers me the chance to Share to MailMate 
and then after saying yes to a dialog, a new MailMate composer window 
comes up with the IA Writer composition as the body.  The composer 
window seems to come up as “Plain Text” by default, but upon 
selection of Markdown, all appears as it should.  If you select only a 
portion of the text in your IA Writer composer window, then that is all 
that will appear in the MailMate composer window.


Drafts.app can also be used to compose communication and then Share to 
MailMate (or Messages or Notes or Reminders or Omnifocus…).


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Re: [MlMt] print -> crash

[Edward Thome]

On 16 Mar 2021, at 23:49, Eric Sharakan wrote:


On 17 Mar 2021, at 0:24, Edward Thome wrote


Yes, I check weekly but it has told me for weeks that r5757 is the 
latest version. I thought that was unusual, but I assumed that Bennie 
was really doing a lot of work under the hood and would have a major 
release any day now. :-)   [I also have “Watch for Beta Releases” 
checked.  Not sure why it wasn’t working.]


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Benny sent a message saying that the update process was being 
revamped, so it wasn't working for a few builds.  If you get the 
latest test build 
[r5777](http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5777.tbz), 
it'll start working again.




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Re: [MlMt] print -> crash

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On 16 Mar 2021, at 23:08, Philip Paeps wrote:


On 2021-03-17 12:02:00 (+0800), Edward Thome wrote:

On 16 Mar 2021, at 21:56, Randy Bush wrote:

mm Version 1.13.2 on current big sur

i have selected a text-only message and hit command-p.  mailmate
crashes.  how to get debug?

randy


It was a known issue with 1.13.2 (r5673 and thereabouts).  Printing 
works again on r5737 through r5757 (Version 1.14).


http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/

(now that I go there I see a lot of later versions, too, but they 
must be pre-releases of some kind).


You can get these pre-releases if you hold down "option" while 
clicking the "check for updates" button.





Yes, I check weekly but it has told me for weeks that r5757 is the 
latest version. I thought that was unusual, but I assumed that Bennie 
was really doing a lot of work under the hood and would have a major 
release any day now. :-)   [I also have “Watch for Beta Releases” 
checked.  Not sure why it wasn’t working.]


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Re: [MlMt] print -> crash

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On 16 Mar 2021, at 21:56, Randy Bush wrote:


mm Version 1.13.2 on current big sur

i have selected a text-only message and hit command-p.  mailmate
crashes.  how to get debug?

randy


It was a known issue with 1.13.2 (r5673 and thereabouts).  Printing 
works again on r5737 through r5757 (Version 1.14).


http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/

(now that I go there I see a lot of later versions, too, but they must 
be pre-releases of some kind).


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Re: [MlMt] Slow fingers?

[Edward Thome]

On 25 Feb 2021, at 12:29, Randall Meadows wrote:


On 25 Feb 2021, at 10:27, Edward Thome wrote:
I’m sure that I have gotten slower as I’ve aged, but it seems 
pretty common now that while deleting an email in MailMate, I will 
accidentally delete an adjacent one and have to go recover it.  Has 
anyone else experienced this?  I am using r5757.


By "go recover it", do you mean you hit ⌘-Z to undo the delete?  If 
not, you should try that; it's pretty darn easy. :)


Maybe my brain is getting slower too…as my gray matter leaks out into 
my hair.  I’ve done ⌘-Z before to do the same thing, to return an 
email just Archived, but didn’t think of it here.  Thanks.  I think 
that it is my keyboard, because I can get double-letters from 
time-to-time too.


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[MlMt] Slow fingers?

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Hello, Everyone.

I’m sure that I have gotten slower as I’ve aged, but it seems pretty 
common now that while deleting an email in MailMate, I will accidentally 
delete an adjacent one and have to go recover it.  Has anyone else 
experienced this?  I am using r5757.


Thank you,
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Re: [MlMt] Replies don't show original text in editable form

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On 28 Sep 2020, at 3:18, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


Probably not. The main issue on Big Sur is that printing doesn't work. 
I don't really know why (which means I haven't looked into it). The 
crash reports are a bit weird and it might be an Apple issue and not a 
MailMate issue.


On Big Sur Beta 8, PDF files do not print reliably from any application. 
Printed to an inkjet printer, whole parts of the page *might be* black.  
Printed to a LaserJet Printer some non-text parts of the page might be 
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Re: [MlMt] OT: iOS mail client

[Edward Thome]

On 4 Sep 2020, at 9:22, Robert Goldman wrote:


On 4 Sep 2020, at 6:28, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

In the end I've settled with Spark which has decent smart folders and 
does not choke on the big inbox.


The critical question for me with an iOS client for compatibility is 
whether or not it supports IMAP tags.  Does Spark do this?


If it did, that would be enough to make me switch from Airmail. The 
concerns about handling large mail accounts is keeping me from jumping 
onto Preside.




Some have been critical of Spark in the past because it stores your 
account information on another server. I don’t know if this is still 
true. The same criticism is made of BlueMail.


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Re: [MlMt] Gmail All Mail

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On 25 May 2020, at 9:42, Evan M Silberman wrote:


I am using Mailmate with two separate Gmail accounts. However, when I
archive my email using MailMate, instead of going to Gmail's defacto 
"All
Mail" folder it goes to a new folder, "Gmail/Archive." How do I 
resolve

this so all archived email goes to Gmail's "All Mail" Folder?



Hello!
I think that the answer to your question is at the bottom of this page:

https://manual.mailmate-app.com/account_setup#gmail

In particular:

**How to configure MailMate**
If you click “Edit Subscriptions” in the IMAP account editor for a 
Gmail account then you might notice that “[Gmail]/Starred” and 
“[Gmail]/Important” are unsubscribed. It is important to keep it 
that way. The starred emails are equivalent to flagged emails. If you 
need the “Important” emails then you must setup a tag in MailMate to 
match the special \Important Gmail label.


The “[Gmail]/All Mail” mailbox might also be unsubscribed, but this 
is optional. If you don’t subscribe to it then there’s is likely 
going to be emails on the server which do not appear in MailMate. If you 
do subscribe to it then MailMate will do its best to only synchronize 
the emails which do not exist in any of your other Gmail mailboxes (in 
order to avoid duplicates in MailMate). It’ll also be used as your 
“Archive” mailbox when it is subscribed. Otherwise, a new mailbox 
named “[Gmail]/Archive” is created and used as the archive mailbox.


Here comes the important part. Gmail labels falls into two categories:

A label used as a folder: This kind of label is just like a standard 
IMAP mailbox. Labelling a message in Gmail is equivalent to moving it to 
a mailbox in MailMate. This is how Gmail labels are handled in MailMate 
by default. For example, you might like to move a message from the Inbox 
to a mailbox named “Receipts”.
A label used as a tag: This is equivalent to flagging/starring/tagging a 
message. The message is not moved, but it is marked in order to be more 
easily found when searching or to be part of some virtual mailbox. 
MailMate must explicitly be told about this kind of label in the Tags 
preferences pane.
If you go to the Tags preferences pane in MailMate (⌘,) then notice 
the “Gmail Label” column. This can be used to tell MailMate to 
consider some tag name to be equivalent to a specific Gmail label. This 
has the following consequences:


It is no longer considered to be an IMAP mailbox and it’ll disappear 
from the list of mailboxes in MailMate. This is implicitly how 
synchronizing duplicates are avoided in MailMate.
Whenever you tag an email in MailMate then its corresponding Gmail label 
is also applied. This means it’ll show up with this label in the Gmail 
web interface.
Whenever a Gmail label is applied via webmail then MailMate detects it 
and makes sure it shows up with the corresponding tag.
If moving a message to a non-Gmail IMAP server then it keeps its IMAP 
keyword and thereby its tag in MailMate.
The end result of all this is that Gmail accounts and IMAP accounts can 
nicely co-exist without MailMate becoming a Gmail email client instead 
of an IMAP email client. You must subscribe to “[Gmail]/All Mail” 
for this to work when the labelled emails do not exist in any other 
mailboxes.


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Re: [MlMt] Reply All and Reply Sender switched

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Yes, thank you both.
Archiving an email doesn’t seem to archive an adjacent one any longer 
either.  That only happened on occasion, and I couldn’t figure out 
what triggered it, but I haven’t been able to reproduce it today.

Ed

On 10 Apr 2020, at 7:17, Eric Sharakan wrote:


Hi Benny, r5682 resolves the issues.

Thanks.

-Eric

On 10 Apr 2020, at 6:12, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 9 Apr 2020, at 23:40, Eric Sharakan wrote:

Strangely, reverting to r5680 did NOT resolve this issue.  Perhaps 
it's a prefs file change that persisted through the downgrade?


No, my build system accidentally overwrote r5680 on the server with 
what was essentially r5681. Please try r5682 instead.


Thanks for reporting issues with the most recent test releases. It's 
not unlikely there are (and will be) more issues since I've made a 
lot of changes to code shared by the old message view and my work on 
a new message view.


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[MlMt] Reply All and Reply Sender switched

[Edward Thome]

Hello, Everyone.

I have noticed that in r5681 that from the Toolbar, any ‘Reply All’ 
button behaves as ‘Reply Sender’ and the buttons for ‘Reply’ or 
‘Reply Sender’ behave like ‘Reply All’.
Each of these works as it should from the keyboard or from the Menubar:  
Message:Reply All, Message:Reply Sender, Message:Reply… all work as 
they should.


Does anyone else see this?

Thank you.

All the best to each of you in these times.
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[MlMt] Delete From Menubar question... (Warning: spoiled brat question)

[Edward Thome]

Hello, Everyone.

**Context:**
I have counters shown in the menubar for Junk and Deleted Messages. 
Under Junk I can look through all the Subjects and then move all Junk 
messages (or just one) to the Deleted Messages. From there I scan all 
the Subjects of the Deleted Messages and then do a final Delete of all 
of them.


**Whiny question:**
My question relates to the location of the Contextual Menu (Archive, 
Move to Junk, Delete, Mark Read/Unread).
Frequently it is on the left side and (as there are frequently emails 
with long Subjects) using a trackpad I have to travel a long way from 
where the Counter is located to select the correct item from the 
Contextual Menu without losing the selection. Is there a way to force 
the Contextual Menu to appear on the right?


Please **don’t** go looking for an answer if you don’t already know 
the answer. It would be handy to know the answer, but it would be more 
trouble for someone to try to find it, than it is more me to travel that 
distance.


I apologize if this has already been addressed. I wasn’t able to 
search cleverly enough to find this.


Thank you.
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Re: [MlMt] Weird annoyance

[Edward Thome]

I am not sure why that would have started, but now it might of that as the
default. The next time that you move and resize the window, immediately
close the window and open a new one. If that one is also skinny and to the
side, relocate and resize it and then close it and open a new window.
Usually (on a Mac) doing that once will reset the default window size and
position as long as you close the window before it is used in any way.

All the best,
Ed




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On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 5:08 AM, Annamarie Pluhar <
annamarie.plu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not quite. I took a screen shot: Link here

See how the new window is way over to the right and narrow?

I always move it into the middle and widen it. But this has been going on
for some days now.

Never seen this before and I’ve been a MM user for 6? 8? Years.

Annamarie

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On 17 Oct 2019, at 22:27, Michael Nietzold wrote:

Maybe that's the preview window?

When i write a mesage text and then MM see it can be an Markdown then MM
open a preview window under the message box

Von meinem iDingens gesendet...

Am 18.10.2019 um 04:12 schrieb John Cooper :

Move it somewhere else?

Mine always open wherever the last message window was when it closed.

Annamarie Pluhar wrote (at 17:57 on 17 Oct 2019):

Somehow - I don’t know how or why - MM has decided that when I want to
write an email it opens up a little skinny window on the right side of my
screen. How do I correct this behavior?

Any ideas?
Thanks


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[MlMt] MM stalling upon update in Mohave?

[Edward Thome]

Hello, Everyone.

On my laptop, running OS X 10.14.6, as it is updating, Mailmate stalls 
upon reaching ‘Relaunching…’.  I have to force-quit and when I 
open it again, it indeed has updated.  On an ancient iMac running OS X 
10.11.6 everything works as expected.  Is anyone else noticing this with 
Mohave?


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Re: [MlMt] to-field stopped expanding

[Edward Thome]

I just downloaded r5635 on an iMac running El Capitan and it works for 
me on that computer. I’m 58 and I remember the 1990’s when the 
answer would have been ‘Move the preferences file to the desktop and 
try again.’ but I don’t know if that is useful anymore…I haven’t 
done that in a long while anyway.


Sincerely,
Ed

On 13 Jun 2019, at 4:32, Robert Brenstein wrote:

I added this setting (it was not in the prefs file) but it made no 
difference.


I have MM 5635 though (on El Capitan). MM says they are no updates, so 
you must be running a re-release version. That would be good news if 
this issue is fixed in the forthcoming release.


On 11 Jun 2019, at 15:19, Edward Thome wrote:


On 11 Jun 2019, at 5:35, Robert Brenstein wrote:

Has the To-Field stopped auto-expanding in one of the very recent 
releases? I mean if I have inserted like 4 recipients, one too many 
to fit in a single line, the field would expand vertically to show 
all addresses. Now, it seems to be fixed to a single line. so I do 
not see all recipients. Or am I confused? I have so many recipients 
not that often, so I am not sure whether I am imagining the expected 
behavior or not.


The To-Field still expands for me in 5637 and in 6137. I don’t 
remember when that capability arrived, but I have had it for a long 
time. Perhaps use this hidden preference to make sure that it is not 
set to 1 line (somehow).


defaults write com.freron.MailMate 
MmComposerMaximumNumberOfRecipientLines -integer 10


All the best,
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Re: [MlMt] to-field stopped expanding

[Edward Thome]

On 11 Jun 2019, at 15:19, Edward Thome wrote:


On 11 Jun 2019, at 5:35, Robert Brenstein wrote:

Has the To-Field stopped auto-expanding in one of the very recent 
releases? I mean if I have inserted like 4 recipients, one too many 
to fit in a single line, the field would expand vertically to show 
all addresses. Now, it seems to be fixed to a single line. so I do 
not see all recipients. Or am I confused? I have so many recipients 
not that often, so I am not sure whether I am imagining the expected 
behavior or not.


The To-Field still expands for me in 5637 and in 6137. I don’t 
remember when that capability arrived, but I have had it for a long 
time. Perhaps use this hidden preference to make sure that it is not 
set to 1 line (somehow).


defaults write com.freron.MailMate 
MmComposerMaximumNumberOfRecipientLines -integer 10




On 13 Jun 2019, at 4:32, Robert Brenstein wrote:

I added this setting (it was not in the prefs file) but it made no 
difference.


I have MM 5635 though (on El Capitan). MM says they are no updates, so 
you must be running a re-release version. That would be good news if 
this issue is fixed in the forthcoming release.




I just downloaded r5635 on an iMac running El Capitan and it works for 
me on that computer. I’m 58 and I remember the 1990’s when the 
answer would have been ‘Move the preferences file to the desktop and 
try again.’ but I don’t know if that is useful anymore…I haven’t 
done that in a long while anyway.


Sincerely,
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Re: [MlMt] to-field stopped expanding

[Edward Thome]

On 11 Jun 2019, at 5:35, Robert Brenstein wrote:

Has the To-Field stopped auto-expanding in one of the very recent 
releases? I mean if I have inserted like 4 recipients, one too many to 
fit in a single line, the field would expand vertically to show all 
addresses. Now, it seems to be fixed to a single line. so I do not see 
all recipients. Or am I confused? I have so many recipients not that 
often, so I am not sure whether I am imagining the expected behavior 
or not.


The To-Field still expands for me in 5637 and in 6137. I don’t 
remember when that capability arrived, but I have had it for a long 
time. Perhaps use this hidden preference to make sure that it is not set 
to 1 line (somehow).


defaults write com.freron.MailMate 
MmComposerMaximumNumberOfRecipientLines -integer 10


All the best,
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[MlMt] High CPU usage since release 5623?

[Edward Thome]

Hello.
Has anyone else noticed high CPU usage in release 5623?
Thanks!
Ed
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Re: [MlMt] Keystroke to clear search?

[Edward Thome]

….also, hitting “esc” a second time will dismiss what you see in 
that screenshot.


The first “esc” clears the search field, and the second “esc” 
clears the search results.


Ed

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On 19 Jan 2019, at 9:21, Thomas Eckhold wrote:


My workflow:

1. CMD-ALT-F to call up the search field
2. enter the search string
3. ESC to close the search

MM „jumps“ back to the view before I did the search.




On 19 Jan 2019, at 14:45, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:

Doesn’t work for me. Leaves the search below open below which is 
the issue.


Took a screenshot - Don’t think I can send an attachment so here is 
the DB 
l[ink](https://www.dropbox.com/s/tb058gph2yuqunj/Screen%20Shot%202019-01-19%20at%208.41.16%20AM.png?dl=0)


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On 19 Jan 2019, at 8:23, Thomas Eckhold wrote:


ESC works for me.
Regards Thomas

Sent from iPhone.

Am 19.01.2019 um 13:19 schrieb Annamarie Pluhar 
:


Hi

I’m finding that I’m wanting a way to clear the search field 
without having to use the trackpad. Is there such a thing?


I’m suspecting this might take me into custom key bindings which 
I know I don’t understand.


Thanks for help.

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Re: [MlMt] Driving me nuts..

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On 13 Jan 2019, at 9:18, Zvi Biener wrote:

I'm a huge fan of the toggleFilterKey action. If you add a keybinding 
like:


"x" = ( "toggleFilterKey:", "unread");

Pressing it in will immediate show you only the unread messages, 
effectively disappearing all the others.


Actually, I have:

	"x" = ( "toggleFilterKey:", "unread", "makeFirstResponder:", 
"mainOutline", "selectFirstMessageRow:");


Which also includes moving the focus on the messages, but that's not 
essential.


Zvi



Cool!
Thanks!
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Re: [MlMt] Driving me nuts..

[Edward Thome]

> On Jan 12, 2019, at 8:34 PM, Annamarie Pluhar  
> wrote:
> 
> Okay that’s an overstatement.
> 
> In one of my email accounts I have a “2” indicating that there are two unread 
> emails. I can’t find them. Ideas?

I have a smart mailbox set up to show all unread emails.  I think is says   
Flag   is not Seen
(Or ‘does not contain’)

All the Best,
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[MlMt] MailMate on a Macbook Air with 174,000 messages?

[Edward Thome]

Hello, All.

I apologize for this off-topic question.

Is anyone running MailMate on a MacBook Air (1.6 GHz, Turbo boost to 3.4 
GHz) with nearly 200,000 messages?  If so, how spry is it?


I have the offer to replace my current 2011 MacBook Pro and was thinking 
of going with a MacBook Air rather than a MacBook Pro. My old MacBook 
Pro has some spinning cursor times which are a bit annoying and I 
don’t know if that is due to its age or design or…


Thank you,
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[MlMt] Sending delay... (~humor, not a MM issue)

[Edward Thome]

Hello, All.

When I want to make sure that I don’t accidentally send something I 
set a long sending delay, changing my default of ‘5 minutes’ to 5 
‘years’.  MailMate accepts ‘5 years’, but can you believe that 
it does not recognize ‘5 decades’!


I apologize for the non-serious email…the flexibility of MailMate 
never ceases to astound me, in this case that it actually accepts years, 
months, weeks, days, hours, minutes, min, seconds, sec …so I decided 
to pretend to take umbrage at the fact that it does not recognize 
‘decades’.


Hats off to Benny again.
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Re: [MlMt] delete message in Inbox, jumps to previous

[Edward Thome]

On 31 Oct 2017, at 6:53, Alain Israel wrote:

As of today, for no obvious reason, when I delete a message in the 
Inbox window, the cursor moves to the previous (upstream; messages are 
sorted by date) message. Before it used to move to the next 
(downstream) message, and this is what still happens in the other 
mailboxes (although I did not check them all). Any reason why this has 
changed? More importantly, how to get back to the previous, more 
logical, behavior?


I don’t know if this is your situation or not but here is what 
sometimes happens with me.  I usually order my messages by “Date 
Received” and then it woks as expected.  If I happen to accidentally 
click on another column and organize by something else, then I get the 
unusual behavior you describe.  So I click on the “Date Received” 
column and all is well again.


All the best,
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Re: [MlMt] Where have my scrollbars gone?

[Edward Thome]

On 22 Jun 2017, at 8:50, Paul Sture wrote:

In the General Pane of System Preferences is an option to “Show 
scroll bars:  Automatically based on mouse or trackpad, When 
scrolling, or Always”




Yes I have that set to Always.  (The next option down "Click in the 
scroll bar to:" is set to "Jump to the next page", but I'm pretty sure 
I haven't ever changed that.)


The only computer I have which is new enough to run Sierra is a 2011 
MacBook Pro.  I see scroll bars all the time in MailMate (for pages and 
listings that are long enough to require one), without having to use the 
trackpad to start the page scrolling.   I’ll keep investigating.


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Re: [MlMt] Where have my scrollbars gone?

[Edward Thome]

On 22 Jun 2017, at 8:34, Paul Sture wrote:

I've just recently noticed that scrollbar behaviour in Sierra seems to 
have changed.


I can no longer see any down/up icons at the top and bottom 
respectively of vertical scrollbars.


While this applies to all applications, it's a disaster for MailMate.



In the General Pane of System Preferences is an option to “Show scroll 
bars:  Automatically based on mouse or trackpad, When scrolling, or 
Always”


The first is what it is automatically set on, the last is what you’re 
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Re: [MlMt] Apologies in advance...

[Edward Thome]

On Jul 6, 2016, 5:09 PM -0500, Benny Kjær Nielsen, 
wrote:
>  
> Hi MailMate users,
>  
>  
> For those interested, I'll be onthis 
> island(https://goo.gl/maps/uGUDU3utSUG2)most of the time.
>  
>  
> --
> Benny
>  
>  
>  
> ___
>  

Hmm.I keep getting the following from Google maps.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gslfvca0kjhexu/Bornholm.png?dl=0

No route from the midwest United States to Bornholm.;-)

Ed


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Re: [MlMt] Correspondence Shifted + Subject Shifted

[Edward Thome]

On 7 Jun 2016, at 16:05, Kee Hinckley wrote:
I feel like I'm in a mail dashboard now, more than a mail program. 
:)___


I put together this layout with the changes suggested, but under the two 
boxes on the left side (Correspondence and Subjects) I only see the 
original email rather than having it populated by the 
correspondence-related emails.  Could you make your .plist file 
available, please?


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Re: [MlMt] Good match for MailMatch on iPad?

[Edward Thome]

On 22 Jan 2016, at 19:48, Barton Lipman wrote:

One more vote for Spark on the iPhone.  I’m still using Apple’s 
Mail app on the iPad and waiting impatiently for Spark.


My second favorite is, oddly enough, Outlook.  I used it when it was 
Accompli but I have the impression that it’s improved since then.


Bart


I also use Spark.  You can process mail quickly with it, and like 
Dispatch it is able to send information/messages to Omnifocus.


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Re: [MlMt] List view not multiple of line height

[Edward Thome]

That happens to me when I’m ordering by “from” or 
“correspondent”.  I don’t know why.  Usually I order by Date 
Received and all works properly, but now and then I click a column by 
accident and then I’m ordering by Correspondent.  In that case, the 
top email appears partially out-of-bounds as in your picture.


Ed

On 4 Dec 2015, at 3:39, Patrik Fältström wrote:

I might have changed font and size and whatever, but the weird thing 
is that even if I (think) I have adjusted the size of the list view to 
an even multiple of the line height, when I delete the top most 
message, and the list of remaining messages scrolls up, it scrolls too 
much.


See attached picture.

Patrik

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Re: [MlMt] Cancel send and edit stopped working for real now..

[Edward Thome]

It works for me with r5142 on both Yosemite and El Capitan.

Best,
Ed

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On 6 Oct 2015, at 7:23, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:


Hi,

Latest build I see "Cancel send and edit" now just deletes the mail - 
no chance for editing it.


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Re: [MlMt] Email list not refreshed after Mark All as Read

[Edward Thome]

.. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. ..
On 11 Sep 2015, at 5:28, Charly Delay wrote:

* When the `Read` status (the blue/grey dot) is displayed as a column 
in the message list, "Mark All Messages as Read" works perfectly
* When the `Read` status is not displayed, then messages stay in bold 
until you force a refresh (*eg.* by switching mailbox and switching 
back).


I reproduce on at least 3 different machines with the same setup: 
MailMate `1.9.1 (5084)` with the "Three Panes" layout on OS X Yosemite 
`10.10.5`.


“Mark All Messages as Read” works for me in r5122, OS X Yosemite 
10.10.5 under “Three Panes” layout (and others).  I had to mark some 
messages “Unread” to try it out, then I switched mailboxes, came 
back, selected “Mark All Messages as Read”, and they all became 
unbolded.  This worked whether the “Read” status column was present 
or not.


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Re: [MlMt] MailMate status (All things HTML)

[Edward Thome]

On 10 Aug 2015, at 14:28, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 10 Aug 2015, at 19:51, Edward Thome wrote:

These are working great on my computer running Yosemite.  On the 
computer running El Capitan, every time I start typing  the ~~~, I am 
asked to install Pygments (again).  It never seems to recognize that 
Pygments is installed. For the Math Styling, it doesn’t ask to 
install anything, but it also doesn’t do anything other than center 
whatever text has been written.


Instead of rebooting with El Capitan I'm going to be lazy and simply 
ask: What happens if you paste this command in a Terminal window:


which pygmentize


On the computer running El Captitan it says:

/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/pygmentize

On the computer running Yosemite it says

/usr/local/bin/pygmentize

I just created a symlink and it works now.  Thanks.

~~~TeX
// This is plain TeX
\vskip 1 truein
\noindent
$\int_0^1 e^x dx$
~~~

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Re: [MlMt] MailMate status (All things HTML)

[Edward Thome]

### Code styling


### Math styling



These are working great on my computer running Yosemite.  On the 
computer running El Capitan, every time I start typing  the ~~~, I am 
asked to install Pygments (again).  It never seems to recognize that 
Pygments is installed. For the Math Styling, it doesn’t ask to install 
anything, but it also doesn’t do anything other than center whatever 
text has been written.


Thanks,
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Re: [MlMt] Additional info in small email header?

[Edward Thome]

On 3 Aug 2015, at 10:47, Allie Martin wrote:


On 3 Aug 2015, at 9:34, Edward Thome wrote:


I believe that this will work for what you want:
	 `defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmHeadersViewMaximum  -integer 
10`


Excellent. Gotta love MailMate for its tweakabilities. :-)

I didn't see this one in the hidden preferences part of help or did I 
miss it?


I like all those amendable elements too.  I got this one off of this 
list long ago...I don’t know if I asked for it or just saw it and 
grabbed onto it opportunistically.  :-)


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Re: [MlMt] Additional info in small email header?

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On 3 Aug 2015, at 8:17, Allie Martin wrote:

For the expanded header view, is it possible to reduce the number of 
displayed correspondents before seeing the string `more ...`.


I'd personally prefer if only 10 or so were listed, rather than the 
current 30 correspondents or so.




I believe that this will work for what you want:

defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmHeadersViewMaximum -integer 10

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Re: [MlMt] Unresponsiveness with Quick Look attachments

[Edward Thome]

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On 20 Jul 2015, at 15:23, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 20 Jul 2015, at 12:16, Bram Heerink wrote:

If you have an attachment (pdf) opened in Quick Look and you focus on 
Mailmate before quitting Quick Look you get a ~1 minute of 
unresponsiveness (spinning wheel) before Mailmate recovers 
(terminating the quick look). Do more people have this? I have this 
since i use Mailmate. Current build #5107.


I'll look into this when I'm back from my vacation this week. (I 
haven't yet tried reproducing it myself.)




I don’t see this behavior.  Have a nice vacation.

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Re: [MlMt] Emergency: can't disable the elipses character :|

[Edward Thome]

On 17 Jun 2015, at 9:36, Mark Wadham wrote:


On 17 Jun 2015, at 15:34, Ale Muñoz wrote:
Edit › Substitutions › Smart Dashes (make sure that's 
unchecked, that seemed to work for me, at least...)


Smart Dashes doesn't appear in that menu, I've only got Smart 
Copy+Paste, Smart Quotes and Smart Links, all of which are disabled.  
If I right click the message window I can do Substitutions -> Smart 
Dashes to disable it, but it doesn't seem to persist.


I had the same issue, and simultaneously with removing “Smart 
Dashes” I had updated to r5099.  Perhaps then “Smart Dashes” will 
show up.


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Re: [MlMt] writing a blog about the wonders of mailmate - searching for input/feedback/nuggets

[Edward Thome]

On 23 Mar 2015, at 7:02, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:


Hey,

I've over the years complained about tons of email clients and with 
mailmate I think I've found my..well, mailmate ;)


I'm planning on writing up a blog about the wonders of mailmate but 
I'm afraid to miss some awesome little thing that could
make people understand the great things about mailmate (Btw. if you 
have some bad things/workarounds that are needed i'm into

hearing about those too to make it balanced).

My current short-list to cover is:
* the flexible smart folders
* yes - its not as pretty as others, but is so much more functional
* the new search bar - short form syntax for quick searching.
* the submailboxes features - incl. customization to group as you see 
fit.

* stats view - to figure out where all your time is spent ;)
* distortion mode - to share info without revealing your secrets
* conversation layout (mainly to work around mailmates "weak" 
threading/conversation support)

* customizable 4 counters
* custom shortcuts for (almost) everything
* Bjarnes great feedback/fixes
...

Did I forget something ?


This might take me several attempts to get everything in!  Some of the 
items you mentioned were more transformative than I would have guessed, 
such as the new search bar, and it was in within a day or two of being 
mentioned in this list.


The bundles, and the relative ease with which new ones can be written.  
The OmniFocus bundle was a *big* addition for me.
"Send Later" might be a pretty common feature, but it is one which I 
have found very useful.
I echo *Markdown*, and mention that it is handy to have the simultaneous 
preview of how it will look to someone else.
One can search for *any factor*, including what the writer of the email 
was wearing when they sent it(perhaps exaggerating).
This very mailing list itself, has given me extensibility ideas which I 
would not have thought of myself.


Thanks,
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Re: [MlMt] opening messages?

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On 27 Feb 2015, at 10:52, Sparky Doosan wrote:

New user here, this looks like good software. I'm confused though, 
double-clicking a message seems to want to find related messages, 
right?


Why does opening a message seem like a thing most people don't want to 
do? I'd expect to double-click to open the message and view it... the 
preview pane is good but not how I normally view my emails.


Am I missing something? Probably a ton of things, ha. Thanks!
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Under Preferences->Viewer, one can select an action for a Double-Click:  
{Opens a message in a new window, searches for related messages} are 
currently the available options.


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Re: [MlMt] keeping sent mail with other mail

[Edward Thome]

On 18 Feb 2015, at 14:17, Marco Carmosino wrote:


Hi all,

I actually had a fantastically helpful conversation on this mailing 
list that led to the following smart folder, "Threaded Inbox", which 
always has threading turned on:


Any of:

All of:
Thread-id is in Inbox Thread-id
Source > Path is Inbox/Sent Messages
Message-id is not in Mailing Lists Message-Id

All of:
Thread-id is in Inbox Thread-id
Source > Path is not Inbox/Sent Messages

This has the effect of including whole conversations in my inbox so 
that my replies are included in threads (by sourcing from Sent Mail) 
and filtering out duplicates from mailing lists (by using the 
message-ids in the Mailing Lists smart folder), without BCCing myself 
or anything.


I found this very interesting, but I had a question.  How does one set 
up the entries:

Source > Path is Inbox/Sent Messages
or
Source > Path is not Inbox/Sent Messages
in either of the two lines above?

For me,
Source > Path is Inbox/Sent Messages
causes the first "ALL" to not generate any emails, and in the second 
"ALL", the same emails are listed whether or not

Source > Path is not Inbox/Sent Messages
is in there. So I am guessing that I am making some error in how I set 
it up.


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Re: [MlMt] Latest test release, Yosemite, Exchange IMAP, and more

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On 29 Aug 2014, at 8:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
It has worked relatively well with the most recent test versions, but 
after installing Yosemite last week I realized I had to work on 
various Yosemite issues. In particular, some performance issues.


Hello, Benny.

I installed Yosemite on the laptop, because it isn't so critical to me.  
Everything has been working fine for me with one exception:


During a search, once the cursor leaves the field, whatever was written 
in that search field is no longer visible.  Putting the cursor back in 
the field shows that it is still there, and search still works fine.  I 
held down  ⌥  and downloaded your most recent (r4458) and that issue 
still exists there.  I will try r5000 later today.


Thank you,
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Re: [MlMt] Dispatch for iOS

[Edward Thome]

On 31 May 2014, at 18:29, Joshua Kehn wrote:

Was checking this out today as well, so far it's great. My only 
complaint (and this is more iOS specific issue) is that OmniFocus has 
to launch and then you have to switch back to Dispatch which 
interrupts the “ruthless swipe out your inbox” mentality


--jk


That might me a byproduct of how iOS deals with background applications, 
rather than something that Dispatch can do something about, but I don't 
know.  It is nice to have that capability when away from MailMate.


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Re: [MlMt] Quicklook pdf-files in Mailmate only shows thumbnail of pdf

[Edward Thome]

I see the same issue; it seemed to start after I applied the 10.9.1 
update,  but I wouldn't swear to that.


Ed Thome

On 17 Feb 2014, at 16:07, John Cooper wrote:

After dragging the Adobe Acrobat Pro application to the Trash and 
restarting my Mac, I experience the same MailMate behavior as before. 
I don't have Reader installed.


On 17 Feb 2014, at 15:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 17 Feb 2014, at 21:23, John Cooper wrote:


I've sent you an example message offlist.


Thanks for the example. I did not have a problem with using Quick 
Look on the PDF.


It's Acrobat Pro that I have installed. However, because Acrobat and 
Reader are virtually mandatory installations for many people 
(especially in workplaces), and because Finder has no problem 
displaying a useful QuickLook window for PDF documents, I hope you 
will look into the problem!


Nevertheless, maybe you could look into disabling Acrobat Pro and see 
if that makes a difference. (I assume you do not have any problems 
with other types of attachments.)


I'm not saying I don't think you should be able to use Acrobat Pro. 
I'm just looking for what triggers the problem.


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Re: [MlMt] Change order of accounts?

[Edward Thome]

I just used a descriptor that put them in the order that I wanted, since 
they're listed alphabetically.  I put a space before one name and it is listed 
at the top.
Ed 

> On Dec 22, 2013, at 3:49 AM, Jan Erik Moström  wrote:
> 
> I kind of guessed that :) I tried  the prefix method also but didn't get it 
> to work (despite restarts).
> 
> Well, I live with it
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Benny Kjær Nielsen 
>>  wrote:
>> On 21 Dec 2013, at 22:18, Jan Erik Moström wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been trying the change the account order listed under "inbox" but I
>>> can't figure out how to do it. Can anyone tell me how do it?
>> 
>> As you might have guessed, it's not yet possible. The only workaround is to 
>> rename them, e.g., prefixing account names with a number or a letter. (This 
>> probably requires a relaunch as well.)
>> 
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Re: [MlMt] Multiple copies of 'same' item showing in folders

[Edward Thome]

Hello.

Under the Menu path:
File->Edit IMAP Account->AcctName
a window will open.  Select 'Edit Subscriptions' from that window.

OR

Control-click on the account's name in the Sources listing and access 
that same window.


Regards,
Ed

On 17 Dec 2013, at 4:58, Jonathan Clark wrote:

Thanks, TJ and Kee. I had a sneaking suspicion this would be because 
of Google's Gimap being not-standard IMAP.


Unfortunately, despite having a look through the preferences, and 
through the help, I can't seem to find the way to unsubscribe from 
[Gmail]/Starred. Could someone help find that option, please?


Thanks,

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Re: [MlMt] Keyboard shortcut/binding to search for string within "Common Headers or Body"?

[Edward Thome]

My understanding is that the very first time it is done, it must be done 
with a mouse, but after that it can always be keyboard only.


Invoke a search, and select "Common Headers or Body" (either with mouse 
or Shift-Tab plus arrow-keys and spacebar).  From the MailMate Menubar 
with your mouse, select


Edit->Find->Use as Default Search.

From that moment on, every time you invoke a search of all messages, it 
will come up as a search of all messages by Common Headers or Body.


For me, typing
\
brings up a search of all messages by Common Headers or Body.  If fact 
the "is", "is not", "contains" or "does not contain" can also be made 
default in the same way.


A better explanation is located at:

http://www.macdrifter.com/2013/11/redefine-the-mailmate-default-search.html

Hoping that I interpreted your question correctly.
Ed


On 2 Dec 2013, at 13:41, Yuvi Zalkow wrote:

I'd like to have a quick, keyboard-centric way to perform a search for 
an email using the "Common Headers or Body" search...


I'm successfully using the keyboard binding for "searchAllMessages:" 
but it doesn't look like there is a way to fine-tune the search any 
further using a keyboard binding...


Is that correct?

Any plans for more keyboard-centric control in this realm with a 
future release?


Overall, I'm loving this keyboard binding feature!...
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Re: [MlMt] Mailmate to Evernote

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On 26 Nov 2013, at 11:42, Sébastien Zürcher wrote:


Hi Michal, Hi all

I've just tested the Evernote bundle and it works fine for me (Add and 
Add with Summary).

Here my config:
OSX: 10.9 (Maverick)
Mailmate: Version 1.7.1 (3864)
Evernote: Version 5.4.3 (402230) (from the AppStore)

On 26 Nov 2013, at 17:21, Michal Hruska wrote:



Hi Benny,

I've included an Evernote AND a Things bundle matching the 
functionality of OmniFocus/Reminders.


unfortunately the Evernote bundle doesn't work for me. I have updated 
MailMate to 3864 and Evernote 5.4.3 (402231). When I use Command -> 
Evernote -> Add (with summary) nothing happens. However, OmniFocus 
bundle works perfecly. Anybody else with similar experience? My 
Evernote is installed as stand-alone app, not from App Store.


Hello Everyone. The Evernote bundle works for me, but I noted two 
things:


1) Evernote must be running; just having it running in the background 
was insufficient.
2) I had an older version of Evernote installed, and the MailMate 
command worked with that. After updating to the most recent version of 
Evernote, I had to quit MailMate and restart MailMate before the command 
would work with the new Evernote.


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Re: [MlMt] Unable to purge deleted mails in trash folder

[Edward Thome]

If you "Cancel Deletion" do they then show up in the webmail client for 
deletion there?


Have you tried to rebuild the database?
[Quit MailMate, and in terminal write:
printf "OldDatabase" > ~/Library/Application\ 
Support/MailMate/.rebuild.tmp

then open MailMate and let it rebuild the database.

I have had something like that happen (the listings of the emails were 
in red and they couldn't be deleted), and the first option above fixed 
the matter for me.


Ed

On 23 Nov 2013, at 12:25, Bjarne Dahlin wrote:


Hi,
Searched the mailing list and came up empty on this.

I have 13 emails in my trash folder that MailMate refuses to 
purge/remove.
They don't show up in other clients (IMAP) and neither in webmail 
client.


Seems there's som caching going on that I cannot figure out.
Where should I start looking for a way to purge this folder/mailbox?


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Re: [MlMt] Search button behavior...

[Edward Thome]

For me:
(A) Control-Option-Command-F searches within the current mailbox.
(B) Holding down on the Option key while selecting the Search button 
will search within the current mailbox.


Ed

On 8 Aug 2013, at 16:08, Steve Mayer wrote:


Seebs,

I would assume that the Search button in the toolbar is bound to the 
searchAllMessages command.  You can set up a custom keybinding to 
'mailboxSearch' to allow for the search to only occur in the selected 
mailbox.  I have this in my custom keybinding plist file:


"\\" = "mailboxSearch:";

Thus, when the backslash key "\" is hit, the search is focused in the 
currently selected mailbox.


Thanks,

Steve Mayer
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On 8 Aug 2013, at 13:51, Seebs wrote:

Clicking "search" automatically jumps to All Messages. I almost never 
want this, because usually I think first of the mailbox I want to 
look in, and second of the possibility that I need to search it. Is 
there any way to change this behavior?


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[MlMt] Horizontal thread arcs view

[Edward Thome]

Thank you for the information.  Sorry for the bother, everyone.

Ed

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On 6 Mar 2013, at 9:38, Steve Mayer wrote:

> Ed,
>
> This is a known issue with the custom layouts support.  See the ticket 
> I filed at 
> http://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/343-icons-greyed-out
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Mayer
> smayer69 at me.com
>
> On 6 Mar 2013, at 7:12, Edward Thome wrote:
>
>> I like the layout of this, however when I have this layout selected 
>> the "Reply" and "Forward" buttons on the Toolbar are greyed out and 
>> cannot be used.  The keyboard shortcuts for "Reply" and "Forward" 
>> still work however.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ed
>>
>> -
>> On 6 Mar 2013, at 8:26, Eric A. Meyer wrote:
>>
>>> At 13:31 -0800 3/5/13, Steve Mayer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Try the attached .plist file.
>>>
>>> Perfection!  Thank you, good sir.
>>> ...okay, I did make one change, because I always must tinker.  I 
>>> changed the tooltip text as follows:
>>>
>>> toolTipFormatting = {
>>> formatString = "${from.name:${from.address}} * ${#date.relative}";
>>> };
>>>
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[MlMt] Horizontal thread arcs view

[Edward Thome]

I like the layout of this, however when I have this layout selected the 
"Reply" and "Forward" buttons on the Toolbar are greyed out and cannot 
be used.  The keyboard shortcuts for "Reply" and "Forward" still work 
however.

Thanks,
Ed

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> At 13:31 -0800 3/5/13, Steve Mayer wrote:
>
>> Try the attached .plist file.
>
> Perfection!  Thank you, good sir.
> ...okay, I did make one change, because I always must tinker.  I 
> changed the tooltip text as follows:
>
> toolTipFormatting = {
>   formatString = "${from.name:${from.address}} * ${#date.relative}";
> };
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[MlMt] Test

[Edward Thome]

However, it does "hang" if you set a book on your keyboard (holding the 
spacebar down repeatedly) and then try to access MailMate with your 
mouse!
;-)
That happened this morning.  I typically have my sound off and it took 
me a while to discover why I couldn't get MailMate to come to. It really 
surprised me too, since MailMate is generally very responsive.  Then I 
switched to TexShop and saw the cursor relentlessly moving across the 
page.

Ed

On 26 Feb 2013, at 12:51, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:

> On Tuesday, 26. February 2013 at 18:54, Torsten Grust wrote:
>> On 26 Feb 2013, at 18:40, ARCMailMate wrote:
>>> As the list seems too calm to be true just a test
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>> I also found the current release to be boringly stable... ;-)
>
> It is so boring that I started playing around with mutt ;)
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